March 17th, 2014

BBC Spin Machine Lobbying MPs on Licence Fee

The BBC are using their team of expensive in-house lobbyists to cajole MPs into rejecting plans to decriminalise not paying the TV Licence Fee. In a briefing seen by Guido, smooth talking BBC lobbyist Alice Dickerson told MPs that “the BBC does not want people to go to prison,” before reminding MPs that 51 people were locked up for not paying their TV licence fines in 2012. She goes on to threaten that the move would mean the they would lose £200 million every year which “would lead to substantial cuts in BBC content and services”, and says she wants to delay any debate on the issue until 2016. Guido has a better idea of where the axe could fall: why not scrap Auntie’s army of PR types and lobbyists who use millions of licence fee payers’ money every year to lobby against our interests.


  1. 1
    Ed Balls Super Fan says:

    Osbornes a cock !


    • 7
      Dr Frankenfreud says:

      Osborne is insane


    • 41
      All Live Telly in the UK is TAXED says:

      Why not introduce viewing cards?

      I mean they are always saying the BBC is the envy of the world, so people would subscribe wouldn’t they?

      Which exposes the elephant in then room. To watch live telly in the UK, any channel even Sky, you have to have a TV Licence, a BBC TV licence.


      • 74

        When I’m Principal Secretary of State for War in the first Democratic-People’s-English Revolutionary-Liberalist-Party’s first administration, and all our ministerial posts have been filled in thefirst second after a shocked newsnight-“team” announces our victory, the BbC will be shut-down in the next second.

        I’m really not at all clear why a modern first-world nation needs a state-broadcaster.

        Its archives will be placed for ever in the British Library, if that’s what an immediate referendum wants. Or they could be placed in the bin if that’s what the people want instead (but I doubt it.) There are other less important things about which we will hold referenda, and so they can wait until the next day.

        Perhaps some of its more valuable copyrights will be globally-auctioned, with the monies returned to the “license-payers”, and also to their traceable residuary legatees if they have died previously.


        • 81
          Grrr says:

          I was lied to and told the BBC was the envy of the world.

          I have travelled to more countries than I can remember and talked to tens of thousands of people.

          NOT ONE has said to me ‘I envy your BBC’.

          Stalinist lies told by Public School Socialists.


        • 107
          The BBC says:



      • 106
        The BBC says:



      • 109
        Mine d'Boggles says:

        Why not get rid if your TV instead? You know its cheaper.


      • 162
        Tom Catesby. says:

        ‘A loss of £200,000,000 per year’. Cut the legions of ‘managers’ and ‘consultants’, stop paying excessive and undeserved payoffs, stop wasting public money. Should go a long way to making up the alleged ‘loss’ in income.


    • 82
      Black Jack Harman says:

      More of a cock than Clifford.


  2. 2
    The Last Quango in Paris says:

    God forbid they can’t afford to send hundreds of people to the World Cup, F1, Glastonbury or the Olympics.


    • 35
      PC Dixon says:

      So what – make them compete in the real world like the rest of us – then all those far lefties in Newsnight etc would have to find real jobs – as for losing 200 million a year – dos’nt Dickerson get the message – THATS THE WHOLE IDEA – and her job too. ITS A GREAT IDEA!!


    • 43
      Wake up & vote UKIP says:

      Not forgetting Saint Mandela’s lovie-fest.


      • 49
        The BBC says:

        That reminds us – it’s probably time for a memorial programme to honour the Mandela memorial we had on a couple of weeks ago.

        24/7, across all channels, obviously.

        If you don’t watch solemnly, you are obviously a massive racist.

        Now pay your fucking telly tax or else.


        • 59
          Glassware says:

          Can’t pay, won’t pay, so just FO.


          • The BBC says:

            I don’t like what you are saying, so you are obviously a massive racist.


          • Glassware says:

            Actually, I am a 5’2 English born and bred granny. So I repeat why don’t you all just FO and leave us in peace?


        • 89
          Anonymong says:

          Or else what?

          I’ve already seen off three of your alleged Inspectors sales commission driven collection agents from Crapita in the past two years.

          The dog has a taste for bollocks now.

          Would you like to try again?


        • 150
          Grrr says:

          Let us all mourn a revolutionary Marxist terrorist, who got banged up for killing people, swore allegiance to totalitarian thuggery and wanted to turn SA into N Korea.

          Yeah – that’s the BBC’s kind of hero.


  3. 3
    Fishy says:

    “would lead to substantial cuts in BBC content and services”

    Could probably start with Labour’s Newsnight. What is the size and cost of the army that Katz has amassed for a programme that it ten years past it’s ‘destroy by’ date?


  4. 4
    Mrs Harpersons Boys says:


  5. 5
    Garfield says:

    That Weak excuse for a PM Cameron will give the BBC what it wants. He really is spineless.


  6. 6
    Owen Jones the Gimp says:


    • 12
      M­a­­­­q­bo­­ul says:

      That’ll be one of the BBC rightwingers he’s been banging on about. Let’s hope Jez turns his acid tongue (metaphorically speaking) on young Owen.

      Jeremy Clarkson leerrrgeenddd for PM!!!!!!!!!


    • 13
      Twitter Twat says:

      People who tweet stupid questions.


    • 34
      Danielle Stevens says:

      That would be Mr Jeremy Clarkson who through his own talent & hard work has become successful & pays millions in taxes to pay for the upkeep of the public sector Mr Jones?

      Jeremy Clarkson leerrrgeenddd for PM!!!!!!!!!


    • 37
      Táxpáyér says:

      Owne Jones Nooooobbbboooooddddyyyy


    • 46
      Wake up & vote UKIP says:

      Tweeting is for bird brains.


    • 52
      Tel E. Caster says:

      Demonising the working class are we Owen?


      • 157
        Anonymous says:

        The name Stig derives from Clarkson’s time at the Repton School (private), where new boys had always been called “Stig”. (Present fees for Boarding pupils at Repton £10,146 per term. Day pupils: tuition, games, inclusive – £7,528 per term) So much from him being some kin of working-class hero? Think about how much TV tax you are paying this pot-bellied fag-stinking Satanic oaf”. Well, he does love to take the P1SS.


    • 84
      The Critic says:

      Ah yes, the musings of an Oxford educated -never done a proper job lefty windbag.

      Trouble is we’ve already had a few of those…..named Kinnock.


    • 87
      In answer to your question Owen says:

      People who block you from their twitter account simply because you politely put up a counter opinion to one you have posted.


    • 121
      Llareggub says:

      Something tells me Jeremy Clarkson would be a better PM than Comical Eddie.


    • 122
      Posho Socialist Twaaaaaaaaaaaat says:

      People who like Clarkson are such frightful bores!

      Rah rah rah, we’re going to the thrash the oiks.

      I say, more shampers anyone?


    • 129
      Screw the LibLabCon says:

      Oh do fuck off Owen you boring c’unt.


  7. 8
    Uncle Fester says:

    What Garfield said

    None of the current crop have a spine


  8. 9
    Nemesis says:

    They should lose the licence fee and allow it to go to subscription and compete like all other media do. BBC is one of the most wasteful, top heavy, fucking useless organisations in existence. If it means more programme cuts etc then surely that’s the best thing to happen.


    • 130
      BBC says:

      You need re-educating, listen to BBC Radio 4 for a month and you’ll soon see we are perfect and the envy of the world.

      PS Racist!


      • 147
        Anonymong says:

        You need to be taken outside and shot.

        Then burned along with HS2 as a Bonfire of the Vanity projects.


    • 163
      Tom Catesby. says:

      No licence, no subscription. Fight for market share and advertising like the rest do. Time to stop this rip off.


  9. 10
    Just trying to help says:

    You could probably cut Magistrates Court sittings by 5% overnight.

    If The Beeb had to sue in the civil courts they will incur massive Court Fees and may have a good few right offs.

    More sensible to scramble the Channels and make them pay to view.


  10. 11
    The Anglo Saxon says:

    Totally agree with Guido also get rid of all the so called heavily paid Programme producers and the vast amount of useless middle management.


  11. 15

    Call-Me-Dave should have tackled the BBC on day one of the coalition – the Tories can’t whine that the BBC is biased, when they have done everything to maintain the status quo.

    Worse – the Tories policies are dictated to by the BBC. As the biggest and most influential media organisation by far, the BBC set the tone of national debate. Call-Me-Dave picks policies with respect to how they play out to focus groups in key marginals. Of course the public merely echo the opinions they have learned from the BBC…..

    The BBC *is* the nations cancer.


  12. 17
    Owen Jones Sucks BBCs says:

    £5bn in revenue (70% taxpayer funded) and 23k employees.

    That’s an average of £217k/head per annum in exchange for hideous diversity and dangerously multicultural propaganda insidiously inserted into news and drama and panel shows masquerading as impartial.


    • 86
      carlo gambino says:

      100% of the BBC’s revenue is taxpayer funded.

      Though they do try and kid themselves that the proceeds of the sales of programmes made on our dime are somehow (laughingly) – ‘The BBC’s own money’.


  13. 18
    Gary Bloke says:

    The TV licensing people could save a fortune by not keeping writing to households without a television set asking them to buy a licence.


    • 139
      Stop watching broadcast telly then you don't have to pay these muppets, watch on-demand instead says:

      It’s not so bad.
      It’s actually just the same weirdly threatening three letters implying untruths over and over every couple of weeks.
      I used to keep them but I ran out of space because I live in a house and not an aeroplane hangar.


  14. 19
    God's holy trousers says:

    The BBC have no excuse for not making their propaganda pay as you go. There is no analogue signal now, its all digital. If Sky can make their service encrypted then so can the BBC.


  15. 21
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Miliband should call on the government to abolish the telly tax, so as to ease the cost of living for the poor and squeezed middle :-)


  16. 22
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Grow a pair and stop paying the telly tax.

    I haven’t paid it for 9 years.

    I still get the odd letter addressed to “The Legal Occupier”, but as i know of no such person i burn them in the fireplace :-)


    • 26
      I don't pay the TV Tax, doodah, doodah says:

      I secretly enjoy reading their ever-more-menacing letters.


      • 42
        C.O.Jones says:

        They do tend to get more and more threatening. It is called something along the lines of extracting money with menace.

        I find them very amusing.


        • 112
          NE Frontiersman says:

          Curiously, after the first polite phone call they left me alone. I can’t recall whether I mentioned Jimmy Savile as the reason.


    • 56
      JH-230912384590231-F says:

      I would comment, but the BBC is currently in the final stages of an investigation into why a Legal Occupier in my house is not paying for Ian Katz 1000’s latest stupid fucking idea.

      I am very worried – for the BBC.

      I would have found out my name in the early stages of an investigation, it would make life much easier.


    • 67
      The Rt Hon Lord Kidd of Fiddleston Member of Parliament for Ashby De La Poof says:

      I am considering writing to them and demanding a rebate on account of them having lost most episodes of their seminal kids show “We are the champions”. The money shot at the end of each show when all the children would dive into the swimming pool and then clamber onto the inflatables was most rejuvenating.


  17. 23
    Marcuse Gramsci-Frankfurt says:

    “substantial cuts in BBC content and services” you say.

    How about starting with BBC 1 and BBC 2?


  18. 24
    geordieboy says:

    Split the license fee between all the major channels we might get less adverts on ITV and channel 4 but more on the BBC which will be a good switch off.


    • 68
      Are there any schools left north of Watford? says:

      You have obviously not read the script. We want to ban the licence fee altogether not spread it around a bit.

      Do try to keep up.


  19. 27
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    Let’s hope Osborne has a nice surprise in store in the budget when he announces the abolition of the telly tax and that the BBC’s TV & radio frequencies are to be auctioned off, to allow new media players into the market to provide more choice and competition for the viewer and listener.


    • 30
      Gordon Brown says:

      Its the right thing to do


    • 32
      was it something I said? says:

      He can position it like Brown’s 3G lic*en*ce sale. Invite in all the big TV network companies and wannabee big companies – SKY, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and invite them to bid for the BBC or chunks of the BBC.

      Then use that money to pay down debt/reduce the deficit.


  20. 28
    was it something I said? says:

    They don’t prosecute you for failing to pay your water bill either yet most of us pay up. Well, because it’s the right thing to do innit. Pay for what you use.

    Lets see how altruistic we’d all be if given the same option for the BBC.


    • 36
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      Water companies will also offer a discount on waste water charges if you have say water butts fitted to your gutter downpipes, so no water goes down the drains. Also they cannot by law cut off a supply to a house unless it is unoccupied.


      • 154
        ned ludd says:

        I quite like thé idea of a rebate for not watching that wet butt Clarkson. Knew someone who remembered him at Repton. Said he was a brownnosing little bender.


  21. 29
    BBC Detector Van Driver says:


    • 133
      BBC says:

      Yes yes… and when we get you with our detector vans will lock you up and put your kids in care.


  22. 33
  23. 45
    Witty Moniker says:

    £200m lost?

    But why would anyone not want to pay their BBC tax (if decriminalised)? The BBC is the envy of the world … documentaries … model of impartiality … drama … David Attenborough … blah f*cking blah.


    • 50
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

      The BBC is so much the envy of the world that no other country is copying it and the same goes for the NHS.


      • 76
        The Village Idiot fed on a constant diet of biased mendacity & manipulation says:

        Thankfully other more enlightened countries have seen how these bloated dominating out of touch EUSSR dinosaurs are performing in OUR country
        that won’t inflict that on there own populations as they would not accept
        such nefarious costly leeches which ConsLieLaborLebDims are all wedded to
        and always will be in there all powerful unchallenged control over the masses
        which has been handed down from on high & thats the way it will always be
        BUT are things are about to change ???


      • 102
        Jack Ketch says:

        Acherally, Japan’s NHK is the closest analogue having been modelled on the BBC, however they have confined themselves to two terrestial channels, a satellite channel, an educational TV channel and three radio stations plus a world service.
        Their license fee is Yen13,600 per year–GBP80 and is voluntary, i.e. there is no legal sanction and less than one million fail to pay.
        NHK TV executives who are caught up in scandals, produce poor ratings or dabble in politics have been known to disembowel themselves.


    • 111
      broderick crawford says:

      yesh but decriminalised in this context means it would be made a civil crime .

      So if you did not pay their fines they would just take your telly .
      Or if that s worth sod all probably evict you and sell your house to pay the fines

      Kapish ….


  24. 47
    nice try but no cigar says:

    we’ll leave that one to the high court judge hey!


  25. 50
    BBC taking the piss out of the license fee payer and avoiding tax says:

    Hi Fiona, Hi Jeremy, how is the tax avoidance going?


  26. 53
  27. 54
    BBC taking the piss out of the license fee payer and avoiding tax says:

    Quick, we still have a few £300k a year jobs for the boys going. Disgraced MP, step this way you are more than welcome.


  28. 55
    Stu says:

    Endemic government waste with all MPs complicit.

    Even Environment Agency up to old tricks:

    Every EA employee entitled to Government Procurement Cards (Credit Cards) – no serious oversight or fraud prevention

    Environment Agency caught out with false FoI, now refuse to any further questions about topic


  29. 58
    Top Bog - The BBC is a left wing Charity. says:

    £126m down the pan!

    See you in court BBC!


  30. 60
    Garfield says:

    Venice votes in referendum on splitting from Rome, of course Italy say that the vote is illegal. They want to form the Republic of Veneto, which is based on the old Republic of Venice which lasted over 1000 years. The results will be interesting.


  31. 61
    Raving Loon says:

    Scrap the telly tax!


  32. 62
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    It is being reported that a group headed by Noel Edmonds wishes to buy the BBC. – Deal or No Deal.


  33. 65
    Bullshitting Brainwashing Cunts- The BBC- says:

    Do not bother complaining to the BBC. If we can’t spin you a pack of lies in response to your complaints. It ends up here:


  34. 72
    BBC News is EU Advocacy Journalism at best says:

    Cr!mea is the new Tower Hamlets:


  35. 73
    C.O.Jones says:

    If you don’t pay the BBC license tax then you cannot watch television in the UK.

    Human rights? Where is the ECHR now?


    • 78
      was it something I said? says:

      I’m astonished the BBC can get away with fining anybody. If they don’t want me viewing their output for nothing then stop pumping it into my house. I didn’t fucking well ask for it.

      They have the technology to scramble their signal. Scramble it. I don’t give a shit. If I want it then I’ll pay for it. Like the electric bill. Or the water bill. But don’t pump it into my house regardless of whether I’ve asked for it and then come knocking with your fucking hand out.


  36. 77
  37. 79
    Break up the BBC says:

    The BBC organisation is self-serving and politized, it has no concern for the people who are forced ‘at the point of a gun’ to buy a Licence. It is extortion. Why should we put up with it? It is happy to create criminals of those who do not want their services. Why do those MP’s who do not support the de-criminalising amendment demand freedoms for others elsewhere. The days of Soviet State styles and command economies are over.

    The BBC sees itself as above the norms of society; Lord Patten, Chairman of the BBC Trust refused until recently to attend any more parliamentary Committee meetings into the shortcomings of the BBC. What does that say – it says to the BBC and its employees and management that they can challenge the will of parliament.

    The BBC must be broken up. If government decides it requires a Public Service broadcaster it must be financed through general taxation and we must be under no obligation to take its output. Any ‘brands’ which remain should be paid for by subscription. We will then find out what people want, enough to pay for it.


  38. 85
    Mark Wouters says:

    Sovietsalami63 Here !!!,
    Is the aircraft MH370 LEASED ???? are the Hijackers going to sell it as a SINGLE LOT ?or brocken up and sold in individual pieces on amazon or ebay ???


    • 113
      broderick crawford says:

      No .

      SMERSH have captured it and the man with the pussycat in his arms is going to refurbish it as an atomic suicide drone and land it on washington unless he gets to control the West s totsl global debt . Go figure


  39. 88
    Salfordian says:

    The BBC does have armies of PR people, Fishburn Hedges, Smarts, basically a PR firm to cover different regions to keep the public in-line.

    TV Licence Resistance has suspected for years that the Digitalspy Broadcasting section has Fishbburn Hedges people on 24/7 defending the BBC and recently found this


  40. 90
    Jack the Ripper says:

    Just writing to say that anyone reading this post will have to pay me some money. And remember : it’s YOUR Jack the Ripper.


    • 100
      JH-230912384590231-1 says:

      Jack you are a national treasure. Please post some more, including posts between the posts telling us about your other posts.

      Just repeat a load of previous posts if you like and still make us pay. You can do what you like because of the ‘unique way’ you are funded.


    • 101
      JH-230912384590231-1 says:

      PS – I presume if I read any other posts on any other blog I still have to pay you, right?


      • 116
        Jack the Ripper says:

        Indeed, JH, you will still need to pay your Fair Share, because even if the blogs are scrambled you might nevertheless be able to read them (if, for example, you are dyslexic).


  41. 91
    Fit for the sewers says:

    Why should I be criminalised for having a tv to watch dvds? Nothing worth watching on the BBC. I never watch ITV or Crap4. It is just wall 2 wall shite.

    The BBC are just a bunch of arrogant tossers who think we cling on to their everyword and watch their left wing bullshit. The BBC is too big for it boots & it needs reined in and made TRULY accountable to license fee payers. Better still privatise the junk.


  42. 92
    Euroshite every Saturday night on the BBC. Kerrrchiiiiiing. says:

    Taken to insulting our intelligence in five different languages now. It is funded by the EU.


  43. 104
    Bushitting Bogging Charity- BBC says:

    I never watch their news, their left wing politic shows, their entertainment tripe, their comedies, their crap radio, never watch their sports, never use their newsshites website, nor do I participate in charity shite! Why should I pay £150 for sweet fa.


    • 128
      BBC says:

      Right wing nutter!

      PS Racist.


    • 158
      Anon says:

      While no supporter of the mini-Hitlers, or the way they try to collect the costly TV Tax, I cannot say that ITV tripe is any better BBC tripe. Nor do I enjoy wasting my time watching all the mind-rotting adverts. That said, as with Dr Who, Red Nose Day IS total rubbish.


  44. 105
  45. 114
    Bushitting Bogging Charity- BBC says:

    I never watch their news, their left wing politic shows, their cookery crap, quiz shite, guff daytime shows, entertainment tripe, their e-uroshite, their comedies, their crap radio, never watch their sports, never use their newsshites website, nor do I participate in the charity shite! Why should I pay £150 for sweet fa or to watch a documentary once in a blue moon?


  46. 115
    Xavier Onassis says:

    You only need to look at the BBC’s coverage of the Bob Crowe and Tony Benn deaths to see what a creepy. left-wing bunch of blighters they all are. Scrap the licence fee totally and make the BBC exist on pay-as-you go fees. It would go bust within a few weeks.

    Still, no problem. Milliband will be in power soon and will give them everything and anything they want. Trebles all round!


  47. 118
    Out & about with the brainwashed Labour voting dogshite in Edinburgh shitty says:

    Close the shithole then we can all have peace! Leeching scum!


  48. 123
    Scrap the licence fee - set England free says:

    Just coz the BBC might “lose” £200 million out of a £3.75 Billion per year income (extorted from the public), doesn’t mean that content has to be cut.

    You could costs instead. Such as reducing salaries, stop claiming taxis on expenses, sacking Yentob & Paxman, stop ending 100 people to do a 2 man job etc.

    Of course, if we scrapped the fucking licence fee racket, they could spend what they fucking like.


    • 141
      Anonymous says:

      Stop sending a crew and presenter to stand outside a building where a meeting was held hours ago to exchange scripted questions and answers with the studio reporter.

      BBC Scotland – stop sending them to the airport to report every time a football team gets on or off a plane.


  49. 124
    Sqeezing Pimples says:

    Just watching the BBC One Show with the presenter climbing a rock face in Utah for Sort Relief to raise money. How much did it cost the BBC (our TV tax money) to send her and a full production team to Utah to raise money for the Philippine people? Also she and a production team went to the Philippines to have a freebie visit. What a waste of our money.


    • 127
      BBC says:



    • 161
      Anonymous says:

      Wish You Were Here?

      A “long-running British travel magazine that showcases exotic vacation spots and luxury resorts around the world. The ITV media team sends their cameras across the globe to give audiences a taste of leisure in thirty-minute segments. The show’s presenter, Judith Chalmers, begins the series by heading out to the South Pacific. She visits Tahitian resorts in Bora Bora and Polynesian deserted beaches around the Howard Islands…”

      So it seems that folks at the BBC were not the first to enjoy a free holiday.


  50. 137
    Not a willing unpaid marketing pawn for the BBC. says:

    The BBC are a bunch of leeches. Criminals!

    See you in court SCUM!


  51. 138
    BBC licking the Mirror's arseholes says:

    Fuck off! Crooks! See you in Court. Leeches!


  52. 145
    Taxfodder says:

    The BBC = Jobs for the boys and assorted layabouts (reflected in the low rent opinionated cobblers they broadcast).

    Privatised would not last 10 seconds in its present form hence all the wailing and woe from the overloaded decks of the gravy line….the cold breeze of competitive edge to harsh to contemplate.

    My SOS advice to the beeb…best keep a low profile. tone down the rhetoric and don’t ask for any more cash just yet!


    • 160
      Anonymous says:

      Right-wing shorthand for: keep a low profile, tone it down and don’t show the Tories Party in a bad light – well not until after the next election. All this BS about cutting BBC income is a fear tactic, with the real aim of forcing them to tow-the-line. Talk about low rent opinionated hard-right cobblers.


  53. 156
    Anonymous says:

    “the BBC does not want people to go to prison,”
    when delivering a worldview to their livingroom door can incarcerate their minds just as effectively? Conversely, they could try crowdfunding programmes the population actually want to see.


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