February 24th, 2014

WATCH: Harman Refuses to Say PIE Affiliation was a Mistake

Well Harriet Harman’s clear-the-air, kill the story interview with Newsnight went well then. Time and time again Laura Kuenssberg asked Harman if she would say that the National Council of Civil Liberites’ decision to affiliate with the Paedophile Information Exchange was a mistake. Time and time again Harman, almost inexplicably, refused. Guaranteeing the story will keep going for a while at least…


290 Comments

  1. 1
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    So presumably Harpic would have been OK if a group had joined that wanted to legalise r@pe?

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  2. 2
    Anonymous says:

    Why doesn’t she sue?

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  3. 3
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    I said Harpic would choose Newsnight, it was a soft interview by a woman who is known to have left wing sympathies.

    Why didn’t Harpic do a live interview with journalists from the Mail present?

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  4. 4
    Silence isn't an option says:

    Were can one find a list of all those other groups affiliated to NCCL at the time?

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  5. 5
    Beeboid says:

    We will shut down this story tomorrow

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      Just Saying. says:

      BBC didn’t succeed and will not while we have a “free” press.
      Pity nothing on Venezuela or even Thailand.
      BBC knickers in a twist over Uganda as now they cannot send 60% of their “journalists” to that country so will use stringers as they do in war zones due to elf and safty.

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  6. 10
    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? says:

    Scum, get the fuck out of politics you mad nonce supporter.

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  7. 11
    What would Mrs Bone say? says:

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  8. 13
    Maimed Cadger says:

    Unless some one else has been watching… Child Porn…

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  9. 14
    whippet says:

    DM headline for tomorrow:
    BUT STILL THEY WON’T SAY SORRY!

    BBC paper review ignores the evidence of the draft legislation lowering age of consent and moves swiftly on.

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  10. 15
    Owen Jones says:

    Guilty as fuck

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  11. 16
    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? says:

    Her uncle had a hardon for Myra Hindley as well, madness runs in the family it seems.

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    • 49
      Only chavs shop at Tesco says:

      Along with hypocrisy over her wealth and upper middle class family background, her posing as a woman of the people, her failure to accept criticism for a criminal (motoring) offence and the fact that she’s as thick as Eric Pickles’ neck! She’s living, breathing proof that brains are not needed to pass solicitors’ exams.

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    Anonymous says:

    Keep in mind that in the 1970’s a substantial portion of the population would have regarded homosexuality as a perversion. From that standpoint why would the same human rights organisations that promoted gay rights not also support the rights of other ‘perverts’. That equivalence does not exist today in the public mind, but it did back then.

    I suspect that the changing moral landscape is now taking its toll of some who when young were rashly ideological about human rights and are now paying the price.

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    • 20
      Anonymous says:

      “Keep in mind that in the 1970′s a substantial portion of the population would have regarded homosexuality as a perversion.”

      Still is a pervertion….

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    • 21
      RomaBob.... working hard for you! says:

      ‘….rashly ideological about human rights and are now paying the price.’

      Hopefully :)

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    • 23
      SIZE 13 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      THE VAST MAJORITY STILL RECOGNISE BUGGERY AS THE VILE PERVERSION THAT IT IS .

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      • 141
        FrankField's Buttplug says:

        Ooh get the madam!. Live and let live duckie, or I’ll scratch your eyes out. I haven’t come all the way from Great Portland Street to be insulted

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      • 190
        Dave Likes a Big One Up the Arse says:

        You need to be bummed until you love it and then marry your man. I’ve made it all possible for you!

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    • 47
      Bye Harriet says:

      Antonio Gramsci, the father of the modern activist left, taught that homosexuality and paedophilia should be encouraged to break down society’s morals. The left tried to normalise both not out of sympathy but for political reasons. They happened to far more success with one than the other because one is defensible on the grounds of liberty for consenting adults, while the other is clearly not.

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    • 113
      Handypara says:

      “ideological about human rights”? But fuck the kids and their rights!

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    • 134
      Handypara says:

      No such equivalence was considered even back then! While both perversions were viewed with disgust, even then it was generally recognised that homosexuality was largely a victimless perversion unlike the evil of sex with children.

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  13. 18
    cheche says:

    I wonder if Jim will fix it for her

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  14. 22
    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? says:

    Come on Ed do the right thing. There’s no comeback from this for them, cut the dead weight out of the party don’t be another sad act like Gordon Brown, look cool to the public like first term Tony Blair.

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    • 56
      Ippikin says:

      No Ed, hang on in there boy (and I say boy deliberately) stick by all three of them.
      I almost pissed myself with pleasure to hear you on College Green this afternoon. Your staunch defence of the indefensible is a joy to behold.

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      • 267
        Just Saying says:

        But did you notice his attack dog minder on his right shoulder?
        Is he somewhat fearful of supporting such people as Harperson?

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    • 65
      Podiceps says:

      The dead weight in the party includes Ed. It takes rare humility to sack yourself because you are no good.

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      • 223
        Windypops says:

        Uncle Len won’t let him cut the apron strings (which should be round his neck rather than his waist).

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  15. 24
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    So the BBC only take up this story to allow Labour to try to rebutt it. They didn’t mention it when the story first broke of course. The usual bias we have all come to expect.

    Harman and Hewitt have been very lucky in fact with this, that due to Labour’s media friends, that this didn’t break whilst they were or before they were in the the previous government.

    This has hit at the end of their careers, when really, they should never have been allowed near the upper end of government.

    And I suspect that because the main culprits in this are women, that this was ignored for so long. Can’t imagine a male politician could have swept this under the carpet for so long (Dromey is small fry and new to parliament).

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  16. 25
    moderation in all things, even cannabilism says:

    harriet can’t say that baby love is a crime because harriet doesn’t know what it is to be alive.

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  17. 27
    Astounded of Lowestoft says:

    Odd to see Zoe Williams on Newsnight wearing her Telegraph hat. She talks a lot more sense wearing that than when she puts on the Guardian cap. Must admit I never realised that she was capable of sane reasonable debate.

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  18. 32
    My Question says:

    So why wasn’t she asked why she thinks children as young as 10 should be allowed to be fucked by anyone at all?

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      walking into darkness says:

      precisely the point, wtf was she possibly thinking. It’s impossible for just about even the most retarded individual when they see a group like the PIE to not ask yourself what it is they are up to.
      What it would suggest is that this was entirely deliberate and the connections used for future blackmailing when you need someone to be a fall guy for something else or to do a little bit of dirty work on the QT

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    Robbo says:

    What the actual fuck is wrong with these people? She’s playing the man and not the ball by attacking the Daily Mail…. or in this case the boy

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    • 42
      Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? says:

      It’s because of her *cough* r o y a l *cough* family connections, same as how long it took nonce Savile and nonce Harris OBE’s to come out. It’s all damaging to the very top of this countries food chain via association with these freaks.

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  21. 39
    Bye Harriet says:

    Train wreck of an interview. Her career is hanging by a thread at this point. If anything else comes out, she’s gone and Miliband is wounded for backing her.

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    • 61
      Just a thought says:

      Interesting that there is a current government investigation into the possibility that the Labour government of the late 70’s, may have directed public money towards PIE!!! Perhaps certain names may get linked to this as lobbying for this?

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      • 112
        C.O.Jones says:

        That remains unresolved and still needs to be answered. Not brushed under the carpet but answered fully. Who authorised payment and when.

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    • 132
      Goggle says:

      Nothing else will come out. This has been known for 30 years and has been bought up a couple of times.

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    Telegraph and Mail I reckon says:

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  23. 51
    Jack Dromey says:

    How can anyone think I could support perversion?

    BIG BLACK GAY COCKS

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  24. 53
    DtP says:

    Cheers Guido. That was the freakiest thing – ‘Tory women problem, yeah’ …..

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  25. 54
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Harriet need a friend to help her out Where’s Sally ***innocent face***

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  26. 59
    moderation in all things, even cannabilism says:

    I say keep going after these bints – why can’t they distance themselves from these paedo’s? No man could launch their lame defense for the stuff they are associated with- We are supposed to give them a let because they are socialists, “who care for the pipple.” Ftsacnts.

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  27. 64
    Roger Dewhurst says:

    What a poisonous creature

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  28. 66
    Keep the Faith says:

    Rather stupidly in her Newsnight interview Harman equivocated over whether or not it was a mistake for NCCL to have PIE as an affiliated group. She was asked time and again and refused to say it was. Why? Because to admit it was a mistake would give credence to the whole of the Daily Mail campaign of the last few days. No-one can seriously believe Ms Harman in any way supported the aims/aspirations of PIE – even if she actually fully understood what these vile people actually did with children. However, many people at the time who received their literature WERE completely clear about PIE’s aims, one only had to read Private Eye to see what they were about. The wonder is WHY Harman & Co were backwards in condemning PIE, and the truth has to be that PIE cleverly attached itself to the human rights of gay men – and if you criticised PIE members, it was could be construed as attacking homosexuals. Harman & Co really need to be more frank about their inability to do anything about PIE. If they had evidence that they had tried to actively have PIE thrown out of NCCL – and there was a papertrail that support their actions – it would be useful to see it. The fact is that this little troupe at NCCL were ‘right-on’ lefties seeking to make their way, eventually, in the world of Labour politics and they were not about stoking -up any fires of criticism that might backfire on them individually. One ought not to be surprised that Harman was politically ambitious – her uncle was a very well known Labour Peer. Lord Longford. Whoever is advising Harman on her PR is going the wrong way about it. The big question is why the Mail is going overboard on the story? Is it sitting on something ‘hot’ – waiting to launch a nuclear missile? Don’t bet against it.

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    • 68
      Ever-loving Priapus says:

      Plentiful
      Incriminating
      Evidence

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    • 98
      Cazual Observer 8 says:

      Harriet is trying to make the claim that this is a politically motivated attack by the Mail.

      That is simply incredible.

      Something has upset the Mail, and it must be something serious.

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    • 114
      WorthSayingAgain says:

      Yes, Keep the Faith, Harman did advocate on behalf of PIE. Take a look at the documents now in the public domain. One paper she authored advocates legalising photographs of children as young as 14 in sexual situations.

      Harman is pro-pedophilia. Get used to it.

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    • 117
      WorthSayingAgain says:

      Wakey, wakey, Keep the Faith, PIE were gay men. They were gay men who abused boys.

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    • 123
      Handypara says:

      “PIE cleverly attached itself to the human rights of gay men – and if you criticised PIE members, it was could be construed as attacking homosexuals”
      If it was that simple, surely any decent homosexuals would have loudly and robustly dissociated themselves from the attachment at the time?

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      • 137
        Charlie says:

        Homosexual men have travelled to N Africa, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Cambodia to have sex with boys below the age of 16 for years. Why did so many famous homosexual writers have homes in N Africa?

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      • 184
        Contra mundes says:

        Decent homosexuals? Surely an oxymoron if ever there was one.

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    • 174
      bubble says:

      “No-one can seriously believe Ms Harman in any way supported the aims/aspirations of PIE”

      The radical feminist element within the Left back in the 70s and early 80s was seriously cracked in the head.

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    • 196
      ex Tory Voter says:

      It really was all right because they took money from anyone, no questions asked.

      Yeah.

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    • 220
      Alexsandr says:

      sorry. this is quite simple. If they knew about the NCCL -PIE link, and knew what the PIE were about, then they should have raised concerns with the directors of NCCL, and if necessary resigned from NCCL.
      But it was clearly more important to keep their jobs and important CV fodder than to raise these concerns.
      To me that just shows total lack of judgement, in in the case of Harpic, from someone who aspires to be home secretary.

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    • 268
      Just Saying says:

      As many have said this story has been around for some time; so why does Harman deny knowing simple facts like how much PIE paid and how many other undesirables were affiliated?
      Once you start lying there is never an end to it until it is fully exposed, as it will be in this case. You would think that MP’s would know this, but lessons appear never to be learnt in Westminster, and especially with Labour grandees’

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  29. 69
    Lard Pressclott of Beams, Bellies, Banjos, Bulimia, two bog seats, two Jags & Shags. says:

    Who ate all the PIEs ?

    Who would have thunk that Harridan and Jacqueline had ?

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  30. 70
    Anonymous says:

    Squirm Bitch!

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  31. 72
    Harridan Harmanhater says:

    Ed Balls told me to blink a lot and that that is a sign of probity and honesty.

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  32. 73
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Eco-loons says:

    It’s about time we had all women shortlists for the Trades Union leaders.

    Vile Trades Union dinosaurs like McCluskey,Crow and Serwotka should step down in favour of women elected on an all women shortlist.

    Or is it do as i say and not as i do for Labour’s paymasters!

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  33. 74
    Silence isn't an option says:

    Miliband is toast if he has that vile creature sitting alongside him at PMQs this week.

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    Scouse View says:

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      Podiceps says:

      If she is one of the good ones, God save us from the bad ones.

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    • 95
      Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? says:

      Funny how nothing is said about the guardian making the same reports or “smears”.

      Must be strange when your worldview is completely delusional in comparison to reality.

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    • 100
      Tim Yeo-yo says:

      FFS, this little girl gives Owen jones a run for his money in the mongtard stakes.

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      • 104
        Hugh Guv says:

        No doubt a future Murkeyside MP.

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        • 211
          Cinna says:

          I’ve got money on that. However, a piece of advice to her, stop trying to hard. This is the kind of stuff that comes back to bite ya in later life. As Hattie has just found out.

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          • Windypops says:

            This female know-nothing twit was not even a twinkle in her daddy’s eye when all this was going on, so why doesn’t she just STFU and stop illustrating her stupidity to the world?

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          • Cinna says:

            It’s in her nature. Can’t help it. She’s comes over as desperate.

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          (Rarely) Dangerous Brian says:

          You would have had money on this one (and a few others) coming out of the woodwork to defend this hypocritical bunch of communist slimeballs.
          Ms Beckett, another Labour hypocritical gobsh*te in the making.

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    • 101
      P. Dant says:

      Up a bit late aren’t you? Make sure at school tomorrow, that your English teacher tells you when to use absolute and when to use absolutely.

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    • 102
      Cazual Observer 8 says:

      Jasmin has a lot to learn and I think she will regret that tweet.

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    • 127
      Handypara says:

      Pathetic child! She must get her news only from the BBC and Jones.

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    • 129
      NE Frontiersman says:

      Is this the Labour munchkin who was planted in a QT audience to impersonate a member of the public?

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    Precisely says:

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      Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? says:

      But will she or is she scared of the evidence people can read with their own eyes coming out, can’t exacatly pull the smear card on a judge when your siggy is on PIE documentation.

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  36. 92
    Daily Mail reader says:

    Harpee needs a rope and a lampost.

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  37. 97
    Gerry McCunt says:

    I hope the Daily Mail doesn’t get too comfortable exposing crimes against children.

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  38. 107
    Corporal Jones says:

    They don’t like it up ‘em, sir, do they? They don’t like it up ‘em.

    Harman & co are getting the just the same trial by media as Jimmy Saville, Roache, Travis, Starr and all the others.

    When it’s a personality, allegations become “facts”. When it’s a politician, allegations are “political smears”.

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    Acoustic Village says:

    The NCLL sounds a strange organisation. Anyone could join for a tenner? First off, that is a lie. The NCCL would not allow racist groups to join, or groups advocating capital punishment, or groups advocating that homosexuals be jailed.

    The NCCL actively promoted the inclusion of any group that was seen to be “progressive” and “libertarian”, and it took their money gratefully, no questions asked.

    There must have been some perceived advantage to be had by being able to say that you were “affiliated” to the NCCL.

    If Harman could just have acknowledged that they were all a bit loony left in those days, that we have all grown up, and that with hindsight it is awful to think that PIE could have been part of a civil liberties group and a huge mistake – then that would be forgiveable.

    Harman could also have listed some of the other equally loony affilates and reassured us all that that was then and we are all so much more caring and aware now.

    Harman has completely arsed it up for herself. Now people are concerned less about the PIE stuff than they are about her arrogance and Millibland’s beige support for her.

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    • 120
      Owen Jones's Shirt Tail says:

      PIE were invited to affiliate and their members were invited to NCCL meetings. In some of the documents PIE are listed as one if only half a dozen affiliates. They did not ‘infiltrate’ the NCCL, they were encouraged to join. They were part of the Gay Rights movement.

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    • 121
      C.O.Jones says:

      Yes, seems she missed a golden opportunity here. When you are in a hole – stop digging.

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    • 178
      bubble says:

      “There must have been some perceived advantage to be had by being able to say that you were “affiliated” to the NCCL.”

      It was used to get their foot in the door as government advisers on child sexuality.

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    • 257
      Anonymous says:

      Watching the interview I was expecting the Question, would you have let the NF be a member then. Surprise surprise it was not asked by the BBC

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  40. 122
    Roger the Butler says:

    Scottish Independence: Plan B to keep using pound

    http://tinyurl.com/ocuvlnv

    Hattie is a pervert.

    Vote UKIP.

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  41. 126
    Diane Abbot says:

    Now we know whay, despite her feminist posturing, Harman refused to stand for the Laboiur Leadership and I had to stand as the joke “female/black” combined token candidate

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    • 128
      R says:

      What about “fat/thick/hypocritical/ludicrous/ugly” token candidates? Someone has to be stand for them too.

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    • 195
      jgm2 says:

      Harriet refused to stand because it would have meant freeing up the position of deputy leader.

      Since she had no hope of winning and every chance of then losing her well polished deputy-leader’s job (and salary) then, even for her, it was a no-brainer.

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        Windypops says:

        Exactly – and she also knew it would be completely impossible to clean up the Gorgon’s 10 year run of utter fukups – so completely understandable why she stood to one side and let other idiots fight over the position.

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  42. 130
    Goggle says:

    Very strange that she refused to say that it was a mistake.

    I recall though at the time there were many on the left who thought that paedophile rights and gay rights were synonymous.

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  43. 133
    All socialists are scum says:

    This filthy bitch needs a meat hook through the jaw and then being suspended over flames.

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  44. 136

    Ok so the Daily Hitler publishes pervy photos of little girls, but they have always drawn the line at groups which support civil liberties.

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    • 139
      The great majority says:

      We laughed at that bullshit when Harman implied the same on Newsnight and we’re still laughing.

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    • 142
      Cardinal Seán Brady says:

      Whatever the Daily Hitler publishes is allowed by law. If they overstep the mark you can go to the police.

      What Harriet Harman was arguing for (after she joined the NCCL in 1978) is prohibited by law. For the entire time that she worked there, PIE was affiliated to the NCCL.

      What is so difficult for you to understand?

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    • 150
      UKIP UKIP UKIP says:

      Hitler was a green socialist Jimmy.

      Hitler was a green socialist Jimmy.

      Hitler was a green socialist Jimmy.

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    • 161
      Anonymous says:

      You know when anyone calls the Mail the Daily Hitler then you know they have lost the argument.
      By the way chaps Hitler was a socialist , the clue is in the name of the party

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    • 201
      jgm2 says:

      She’s bang to rights on this and, knowing this, Original Jimmy would have kept well away from expressing an opinion.

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  45. 138
    The ghost of the 1st victim of Marxism says:

    You have, in some ways, to admire the fact that her loyalty to the North London Death Cult of
    ( Marxism) is such that she will defend it even in public. This despite the damage done to her politically and personally.

    The picture of Miliband, a full blooded Member and Prophet of the North London Death Cult, supporting her is remarkable. Yes the Milibands have a long history of supporting the killings rapes and tortures of the Death Cult. (They even attended the funeral of Professor Eric Hobsbawm). This however is showing a foolishness not seen since the 1930s and is endangering the Labour Party it’s self.

    Marxism is anti-family. We all should know this. The promotion of the anti-family agenda is part of the Marxist strategy to undermine Western and Christian values and society. Therfore the support of pedophiles is par for the course. BUT… doing so so openly.

    I never expected them to do that

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    FrankField's Buttplug says:

    I was saying to my friend Iain yesterday,while I was unclogging his sink, I think there is something a bit kinky about Mr. Harriet – didn’t he Twitter a link to a website with big butch black men doing naughty things last year?. Harriet’s another example of why we shouldn’t have women in our show cheeky cat. Mind you, ducks getting married has it’s compositions and stops the rumours. I might propose to that Eagle woman, now I think about it

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  47. 143
    Von Rumpoy killed our giraffe. says:

    6am BBC 5Live News top story.
    Harriet Harman is a victim.

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      Fishy says:

      And at 6am. Plus PIE were one of many different organisations who could affiliate to NCCL. How was poor Hattie to know what they were into?

      The BBC never reported her submission to Govt though, reflecting PIE’s aims.

      The BBC are also quiet about their own activities at the time, they themselves giving PIE a platform.

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  48. 144
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Ed Miliband is defending Harriet Harman.

    She’s doomed.

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  49. 147
    Wild Life first and people second says:

    Why have Mr and Mrs Harman been allowed to have and keep their children?

    What were Social services doing?

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  50. 148
    The British Press are bloody useless says:

    Does the Daily Mail have evidence of criminal activity by Harman Harman and Hewit ?

    Has any evidence been passed over to the Police?

    If evidence exists when did it come to the attention of the Daily Mail and how did they acquire that evidence ?

    It is hardly rocket science is it?

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  51. 153
    Von Rumpoy killed our giraffe. says:

    Who’s Harman Upset ?
    BBC News Dept, Kevin Maguire and Nicky Campbell all sticking the Gucci loafer in.

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  52. 154
    Sally Bercow says:

    Wonder if Guido Fawkes would like to see me Twerk……..?!! x

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  53. 157
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Told you lot that the BBC would spin this story for Harpic. Poor Hattie, no doubt she’ll be on TV soon in tears and the BBC will be there to attack the Mail.

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    • 160
      Anonymous says:

      Its a Labour safe house

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    • 165
      cornwall storms says:

      Oh a weepy interview. Well piersmorgan is free now so the beeb can employ him to do it.

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    • 170
      JH945894343432945 says:

      To be fair, Laura Kuenssberg went after her like a Terrier. It was a car crash for Harman, and will cause her nightmares in to the election.

      When the report started, I thought it would be one of those state-the-allegations-through-gritted-teeth-then-grant-a-soft-soap-interview-to-deny-it-then-move-on reports, just to head off allegations that they were deafeningly quiet about it.

      Harman looked slippery as hell. She can’t just say it was a mistake because she knows there are documents showing she directly supported that organisation.

      Course she did. Do do otherwise could be seen as ‘anti-gay’, the Götterdämmerung of thought crimes for the progressive.

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  54. 158
    Beeboid circling the wagons says:

    The Harman rebuttal now on BBC main page, BBC UK page, BBC politics page with top billing. Couple of days ago they had never heard of the story and someone had forgotten to buy the Daily Mail on their way in for the paper review as it never appeared once.

    However, On the 100,000 Bone story this is also on all three pages ans was so before the Times newspaper print was even dry. If true the guy needs to go to jail but the speed at which the BBC got this front and centre was breathtaking.

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  55. 163
    johnpreid says:

    A quick look on the net,pre 2011 When Saville was still a Tory supporter, and Guido Fawkes page was pro Tory, sows Order-order having photos of their Tory heroes,surrounded by Saville,
    So criticising Harman for guilt by association, of facilitation, you ought to get your won act together, unless the web links are wrong

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    Ex pat ex higher rate taxpayer says:

    Thirty odd years ago I took a job for a company with a few dodgy clients.

    I took the job because I had no money, a wife and a mortgage, and needed the experience to get on.

    I had little or nothing to do with the dodgy clients and as far as I am aware did nothing illegal.

    Fast forward to the present day, if I was being vilified for what happened then because it is now deemed politically correct, I would not apologize .

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    • 169
      Malcolm Muggeridge says:

      The correct course of action would have been to stay unemployed and continue seeking a job which was both morally acceptable and politically correct.

      You Sir are clearly guilty today (as evidenced buy your willingness to post ) and have no more integrity than those correctly being fingered by the Daily Mail.

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        Morals and standards says:

        If that job involved me advocating that children of the age of four could be abused by adults, I’m afraid I’d have gone to the police and registered a complaint..latter telling them to shove their disgusting job.

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    • 183
      bubble says:

      advocating for != being in same organisation as

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      Ah! but says:

      All companies / employers especially government and the Church of England have dodgy clients.

      For your penance please say a prayer and donate some unpaid taxes to the government.

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    • 193
      Oak Shed says:

      Are you now or have you ever been in a job that makes decisions on or for the lives of millions of people, if not, then you pathetic little apology for your hypocritical mendacious idols is worthless.

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  58. 167
    cornwall storms says:

    So hattyharpic issues a rebuttal that does not address the allegations the mail made and the beeb who has ignored the story for weeks is now all over hattyharpic’s weasel words. #nausea

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    • 188
      Socialist Broadcasting Virtual Monopoly says:

      We are not looking to question the aligations but promote the idea of a smear campaign by our rival the grubby Mail.

      Like

  59. 168
    Anonymous says:

    5 times.5 failures.

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  60. 172
    Time for some judicial action says:

    The Court of Public Opinion finds Harmskids, her dodgy husbandwoman, and that Hewitt monster guilty as fùcking sin

    Like

  61. 173
    MIKE OXHARD says:

    DRILLME @ HALFMAN

    “Do they have kids” ?

    Like

  62. 189
    Cast Iron Dave says:

    I’ve just dipped into my bag of promises and one came out saying that I won’t form a coalition in 2015. Vote Dave in 2015.

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    • 213
      2014 and 2015 voters get your own back says:

      I’ve just dipped in my bag of promises and it came out saying that I will be voting for UKIP in 2015, we have to break the ring of lies and corruption and deceit sometime, so screw the LibLabCon artists.

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  63. 194
    Owen Jones says:

    No boyfriend, no problem.

    Like

  64. 197
    Prime Minister David Cameron says:

    “a very big part of my life is trying to give pleasure to Mrs Bone”.

    Like

  65. 198
    Nigel Double-Garage says:

    Mine’s a pint

    Like

  66. 199
    Ben Gummer says:

    I’ve just had a couple of mad cow burgers to prepare me for my speech today in the House of Troughers. One third of my brain is still functioning so should be okay.

    Like

  67. 200
    UKIP or bust says:

    If it was such a fair interview, why wasn’t it live?

    It was edited to pieces, no doubt with a libore team on hand.

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  68. 204
    No more state broadcaster says:

    So the BBC clearly knew all about the story but only paid any attention to it once Harriden was prepared for an interview.
    Time to get rid of the telly tax, the BBC are a disgrace.

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    • 232
      Hugh Manatee says:

      I agree, but I have already got rid of the telly tax – I just do not pay it. If everybody else did the same, we would be free of these lefty lying parasites.

      Like

      • 281
        Mine d'Boggles says:

        I have NEVER paid the TV tax, but then I have NEVER owned a TV, so now you know why I read this blog: the real world passes through every day.

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  69. 205
    The Public says:

    So Miliband backs Harman – says all you need to know about his integrity. Disgusting.

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    • 221
      Jingle bells says:

      Liebour and integrity does not compute, 404

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    • 230
      confused! says:

      What gets me is that people in the party must have known about this somewhat dodgy history yet they were still allowed to rise to higher echelons of the party.

      That might explain why Ed is still backing her, to cover for past misjudgements.

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  70. 208
    Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

    in 1978 the NCCL opposed the new Child Abuse Legislation; in a letter to the Home Office, written by Harman, the NCCL argued that child pornography should not be banned as indecent unless it could be shown that the child depicted had been harmed.

    How sick do you have to be to draft a letter like this and completely at odds with what she said on NewsNight.

    The Daily Mail and Guido must keep going on this; with a bit of luck Militwat will get stuck with guilt by association after his stunt with 25 MP stooges yesterday.

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    • 214
      jgm2 says:

      written by Harman, the NCCL argued that child pornography should not be ba*n*n*ed as indecent unless it could be shown that the child depicted had been harmed.

      Yet today she’s playing the ‘wimmin’ card by trying to get Page 3′ ba*n*n*ed. Does she have evidence that these women are being harmed?

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      • 225
        Cinna says:

        Like all wimmin Lefties she’s nothing but a hypocrite. It’s OK for a nonce to get his rocks off looking at child porn, but normal males looking at normal, attractive women (i.e. of age) are beyond the pale. (Insert your own jokes about Mr Harperson here).

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  71. 209
    cured lefty says:

    Absolute self serving bitch dragged) Kicking & whingeing to a statement of regret even then by issued by fu)ing lackey total bastard!

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  72. 210
    jgm2 says:

    I’m reminded of that gag doing the rounds when Francois Hollande was caught shagging his mistress.

    ‘Mr Hollande, would you like to talk about the allegations surrounding your relationship with zis woman’?

    ‘No. It is not your business.’

    ‘Very well, would you like to talk about the economy?’

    ‘Yes, I was having an affair’.

    Same for Hatty

    ‘So, Mrs Harman, what is this business about you supporting PIE back in the day’.

    ‘I have nothing to say.’

    ‘Okay, would you like to talk about Labour’s economic record while in office’?

    ‘We were all for having sex with 10 year old kids back then..’

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  73. 212
    john mackie says:

    What this car crash interview shows is that HH would rather do back flips and pirouettes rather and admit to the slightest error in her past.

    She obviously has a messiah complex. Capable of no wrong.

    Revolting, hateful woman.

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    • 222
      Just askin says:

      Commenting about car crashes, how did she get on with that car crash she was so important that she walked away from, did that get a dose of whitewash or did it come up in court then was given a dose of whitewash

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  74. 216
    Round the Bend says:

    They will not admit about PIE as to do so would be an admission that both of them are STUPID. And as you know Socialists are never wrong, as McMental has always told us.

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  75. 219
    The Last Quango in Paris says:

    wow – that went well then!

    let the story run for three days and then pile in and stir it up.

    well done Harriet.

    PS – Where’s Patricia?

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  76. 226
    jgm2 says:

    In fairness to the BBC (Did I just say that?)

    Here are how they’re reporting Hatties performance…

    ‘Appearing on BBC Two’s Newsnight programme on Monday, she repeatedly sidestepped questions about whether it had been a mistake to allow the paedophile campaign to be affiliated to the civil liberties group’

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  77. 227
    jgm2 says:

    In fairness to the BBC (Did I just say that?)

    Here are how they’re reporting Hatties performance…

    ‘Appearing on BBC Two’s Newsnight programme on Monday, she repeatedly sidestepped questions about whether it had been a mistake to allow the p*a*e*d*o*p*h*i*l*e campaign to be affiliated to the civil liberties group’

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  78. 228
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    I knew Hattie Harperson had been legal officer of Liberty’s predecessor but I didn’t realise Dromedary was there as well. Maybe that explains why union branches of unions such as NALGO (the old Local Gov union) were getting NCCL’s literature and PIE’s propaganda as well.

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  79. 229
    Bucklebury John says:

    I remember a TV interview by Harman. It is seared into my brain and so has remained there from the late 70s/early 80s. She gave full support to much of what PIE wanted, lowering the age of consent and adult to child sexual love. If the video tape exists she is in deep trouble

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    • 234
      MIKE OXHARD says:

      The BBC are on a search and destroy mission of their archive as we speak

      lets hope they do turn up

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    • 235
      jgm2 says:

      Perhaps a request to the BBC to see if they can uncover such a tape might yield fruit.

      They did spend 100m quid attempting to archive their stuff. I’d have thought that, even though the retrieval system didn’t work they’d have had to at least tag every tape/recording/DVD with who was in it. Possibly even the subject content.

      A quick database search would find it in about 5 seconds.

      They’d do it if it was a Tory who was in such a spot of bother.

      The c*u*n*t*s.

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    • 239
      JH945894343432945 says:

      She knows such material exists.

      That’s why she keeps wriggling out of admitting that she supported a movement dedicated to giving gay men a green light to abuse young boys.

      Even your young modern lefty would pause for a moment to let their ingrained victimhood poker software run before passing judgement on that one.

      “If I condemn that, am I being homophobic?”.

      Minefield. You have to feel for them.

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      • 249
        Nice Time says:

        Didn’t that old feminist GG lust after young boys ? Suppose that’s ok.

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      • 275
        Osama the Nazarene says:

        Hattie now says she regrets something or other. Could it be that she’s had the nod from AlJabeeba that its OK as we’ve found the aforementioned tape and rendered it “harmless”.

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  80. 242
    Gerbil 7 says:

    This from 1 hour ago:

    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-02-25/harman-expresses-regret-for-pie-affiliation/:

    Nobody is asking you to apologise to the Daily Mail dear….

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  81. 243
    lojolondon says:

    So far from the truth?? Hattie signed documents which requested parliament to reduce the age of sexual consent. All the documents are included in the DM article. Looks like the truth to me. Full marks to Laura for a good interview.

    To compare printing pictures of actresses on holiday in their bikinis with campaigning to lower the age of consent for sex with children and to enable hardcore pornography is outrageous.

    Read the articles, one of them states that a girl can have an orgasm from the age of four months, it is truly shocking and these dirty people all need to go!!

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    • 254
      A Chinaman says:

      For signing documents which would have given immunity to older people to have sex with younger children she should hang her head in shame and resign.

      Like

    • 282
      The Central Scrutinizer says:

      This kind of garbage came from the fraudulent Kinsey report on sex in the 1940’s. They got up to all sorts of stuff in trying to make deviancy appear normal. The people they interviewed and based their findings on we’re often ex-con perverts.

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  82. 246
    Johnny Norfolk says:

    Let off the hook, imagine if it had been UKIP or the Tories What would the BBC have been like over it. Totaly different without a doubt.

    Like

  83. 248
    Rob says:

    The Left are so idiotically tribal that they defend their own even if it means getting as filthy as this. Hilarious. Absolutely no sense of right or wrong, completely amoral.

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  84. 251
    Lance Corporal Bill Bloggs (retired) says:

    If she has done nothing wrong then what exactly is she apologizing for now?

    Are the Daily Mail going to say everything is alright so let us move the headlines or what ?

    The whole thing is bordering on the ridiculous .

    If WW3 breaks out I have a good idea though who I do not want on my side.

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  85. 262
    The Last Quango in Paris says:

    OMG just seen her tweet re the Daily Mail and Courtney Stodden – IT”S WAR !!!

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  86. 265
    Archie says:

    Full marks to Laura Kuenssberg. It’s such a breath of fresh air to see a left-wing politician being given a hard time on a BBC programme.

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    • 276
      Osama the Nazarene says:

      Agreed, Laura did well but she must do her homework a little better. It was PIE which affiliated to NCCL and not the other way round. She could also have asked about a white supremacist organisation being allowed to affiliate to NCCL if they took affiliations from anybody as Hattie claimed.

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  87. 266
    Libertie(s) says:

    BIG GIRLS MADE ME DO IT

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  88. 269
    EyeSee says:

    It’s a half way house. She won’t apologise for something she believes in, then as now, but equally she won’t admit it. In no way did she or does she support this vile organisation or its objectives. And writing a letter, deploring the suggestion that possession of pornographic images of a child should be a crime, in no way changes that. Labour is a dangerous crew of cultural Marxists and people are supposed to think they are socialists, representing the people!

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  89. 270
    Anon. says:

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      SIZE 13 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

      If it wasn’t a mistake then affiliation of the NCCL with these perverts was done with the full knowledge and endorsement of all concerned.
      They can’t have it both ways!

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  90. 272
    GlisteningLabia says:

    Sorry…I missed out on how this is a Daily Mail story….didn’t Rod Liddle have a piece on it in this weekend’s Sunday Times? Or am I reading stuff in the wrong order & getting my timeline mixed up?

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  91. 273
    SIZE 13 CARBON FOOTPRINT says:

    Look, these allegations go back a long way ,clearly mistakes were made on all sides , Harriet Harman is still a highly respected politician ,with the full confidence of the party leadership.
    Miss Harman would like to apologise unreservedly for any misunderstandings ,lessons will have been learned ,it’s time to move on from this unfortunate episode and confront the real issues that the country is facing, such as climate change and the ongoing cost of living crisis.

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  92. 277
    Anonymous says:

    So yesterday on the Daily Politics we had a hairdresser and today a comedian, says it all. Jo Coburn must go.

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  93. 279
    Anonymous says:

    Someone should ask Harriet what is wrong with “titivating” photographs.

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  94. 280
    eHarmany says:

    Harman can’t say that NCCL’s involvement with PIE was a huge mistake because the follow-up question would be “so why did you do it?”. She would then have to choose between defending PIE and defending the left’s willingness to make common cause with almost anybody who is against mainstream British society. Either answer would be an admission that it was a product of left-wing revolutionary politics and not really a mistake at all.

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  95. 283
    Hahaha Harmen says:

    She must resign!

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  96. 287
    Anonymous says:

    She’s pathologically incapable of admitting she’s done anything wrong. Ever.

    I think it’s known as ‘Brown’s syndrome’.

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  97. 289
    Another Labour scandal lingers on says:

    This is worse than Hodge/Oppenheimer not revealing the tax status of Stemcor or her family’s interests in it. Still rumbling on….

    Fact is NCCL promoted decriminalisation of incest and evidence of “harm” to bring about child abuse charges (ie the abuse alone is not a crime). These Labour social engineers who think they can inject liberality into lives of working class people make me sick. They have a theoretical view of everything they say which is why you end up with all women shortlists and the like – incidentally Jack Dromey circumvented this to get elected. Harman has made this worse with her interview, it wasn’t me guv, they were pushed away but still managed to remain affiliated members for 5/6years. FFS they were called the Paedophile Information Exchange, the only way it could be worse was if they were called fuck little kids up the arse….this woman was the deputy prime minister of this country – thick fucks voted for her in droves.

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