October 4th, 2013

Miliband’s Forced “Decency”

If Miliband’s Mail-bashing was really about sticking up for his dad, he would not have used jarring political lines about the “cost of living crisis” in his letter to Lord Rothermere yesterday. His interview with LabourList this morning betrays the real motivation for why Miliband and Alastair Campbell, who is at the centre of this, have gone after the Mail:

“What we’ve seen over the past five days is a symptom of that and it’s time he took a long hard look at the way his papers are run because I don’t believe that reflects the values of the British people.

“I want to know how these practices are allowed to happen. Not on the basis of being “one rogue reporter” or “one rogue editor”, but what is it about the culture and practice of the organisation that makes these kind of things acceptable?

If we’re going to have those massive debates about the cost of living, we need to have proper standards of decency in our press.”

This is about Leveson, the Royal Charter and state regulation of the press. Miliband believes it is for politicians to decide whether papers “reflect the values of the British people”. Read that as whether they reflect his values. He wants to know how papers are “allowed” to print opinion that he disagrees with, that he finds offensive. That last line, “we need to have proper standards of decency in our press”, is chilling. It shows an incredible mindset from Miliband that he feels it is a politician’s place to decide what constitutes “decency” in the media. As Fraser Nelson notes, next week the Privy Council meets to discuss newspapers’ attempt to prevent state regulation of the press. Hugh Grant and Hacked Off have already tried to hijack the story. Miliband’s timing is no coincidence…


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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    I’ve changed my name by deed poll.

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    Josh Rogan says:

    He’s got a bossy, “I know what’s good for you” streak. This case reveals just how far he wants to go.

    But what if the Daily Mail published the article just to flush out Miliband’s authoritarian streak and expose his control freak authoritarian streak?

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    Round the Bend says:

    Wanting to control the press, that would make him a Marxist.

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    Joe McCarthy says:

    What we have with Ed Miliband is…A RED UNDER THE BED!!!!

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    Dumbed-down Britain gets on my tits says:

    “Miliband believes it is for politicians to decide whether papers “reflect the values of the British people”. Read that as whether they reflect his values.”

    This shouldn’t surprise us. He also wants to dictate how much profit (or loss) private enterprise can (or must) make, and confiscate private property if he doesn’t like what the legal owners are doing with it.

    I’m not sure whether Miliband is evil or just incredibly stupid.

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    Anonymous says:

    Whatever his motivations, he still has a good point.

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    nellnewman says:

    Well if he really wanted to campaign for standards of decency in the press then he made a fatal error of judgement by allowing the bullying alastair campbell, he of dodgy dossier fame and association with the death of D r D a v i d K e l l y, to raise his ugly head.

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    Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:


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    Anonymous says:

    Campbell has jumped on this bandwagon big time, so full of venom

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    Anonymous says:

    Daily Mail has every right to look into the background of potential leaders of countries.We keep being told that Ralph Miliband fought for his country- so did Hitler,Mussolini,Mao,Pol Pot etc., all military men. What happened when they got power- elimination of those who dared to take different views. Perhaps if their backgrounds had been studied, millions would not have died. Thanks for your work ,Daily Mail, and thanks again.

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    Anonymous says:

    Brown is in a tricky position on this given how close Brown-Balls-Mili was to the operation.

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    nellnewman says:

    militwit is a leftwing socialist in the mould of michaelfoot.

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    genghiz the kahn says:

    Financial management with Labour’s Ted Crilly.


    £2K in unpaid fines owed to Barking & Dagenham Council, could be an ‘interesting’ story. Jossie Channer happens to sit on a said Council’s committee dealing with parking issues…interesting – has she paid up…with interest.

    Nothing to see, Labour values, political entitlement culture…one rule for all, one rule for pigs in the trough…

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    Broadbanduser says:

    Ed Miliband is part of the privileged 1% who had even heard of Miliband the elder prior to this nonsense (and that by birth). I wish to remain in ignorance as part of the underprivileged 99%.

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    It was great to see the hypocrite Campbell ,on sky news preaching morals to the Mail about lying to the nation
    This from the author of “The dodgy Dossier ” Laughable !

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    tn02 says:

    The DM’s Alex Brummer and Maurice Glassman were discussing whether there is an anti-semitic element to the Ed baiting by the Mail on R4 this morning, which may not be that farfetched.

    It’s interesting to note that J*wish intellectuals seem to make the running on both sides of the political spectrum i.e. Marxism vs Capitalism and seem to profit out both extremes. Meanwhile the p l e b s in the middle are just used as political pawns in a giant game of geopolitical economic and social destruction.

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    john mackie says:

    I see we were treated to another party political broadcast on behalf of the Socialist Party on the TeleTax channel this morning.

    With Miliband and the two presenters on the sofa having a right old love in, complaining how the Mail was making the story run and run….as if this is the most important thing that happened in the world for the last 24 hours.

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    Sir Bentley Continental says:

    Like father, like son.

    As they say.

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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    Whereas what we need is a First Amendment.

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    lescrompsblogg says:

    We need to see this for what it is a politicians attempt to influence a decision on press regulation.They do not want a free press they want to stifle scrutiny a State controlled press is their aim,and as for Alastair Campbell as a free press spokesman,well that’s a pisstake too far #freeandreckless

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    WoRaft ChIHUAHua says:

    How very dare the press draw attention to the failure of a claimed-to-be socialist to move to Russia when he had the chance.

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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    He was also pissed in that interview. It took him four attempts to say one word.

    Why was no other Labour stooge available, as well? Maybe we are seeing the answer now.

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    Owen Jones says:

    Prime Minister David Cameron urges Guido Fawkes,owner of the right wing political blog,”Order Order” to take a “long, hard look” at the way it is run.

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    Anonymous says:

    Spare me this man’s faux outrage. This is a man who

    * Worked in the same office as Gordon Brown, MacBride and Balls for years and claims he had nothing to do with the smearing of collegues.
    * Stabbed his elder brother in the back
    * Avoided inheritance tax when his maxist father died
    * Whose wife makes £250 k a year as a specialist envirionmental lawyer working on the laws he brought in.

    This man is a stinking hypocrite, he claims his father didn’t hate the UK and yet this man supported the Argentinians when they invaded the Falklands. Always remember the speciality of the generals was throwing people out of aeroplanes.

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    BBC vomit says:

    That arch demon of nasty, tabloid journalism and rank bullying, Alistair Campbell (yuk!) is pulling the BBC’s strings!!!

    How else can it be explained that the BBC is still headlining this trivial spat and non-story on their website!!!

    Listen up everyone – start complaining to the BBC about their incredible leftward bias – it is sickening!!!!

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    john mackie says:

    Kim Philby and Guy Brugess both fought for their country, too. Properly, in the SOE, as opposed to operating a radio in a ship.

    They were both hard left ideologues, Soviet spies, traitors and were at Cambridge – to where Miliband moved when the LSE was moved to Cambridge at that time.

    Miliband’s cousin, Davidovna Miliband, was a codebreaker for the USSR and a huge admirer of Stalin over whom she gushed when she met him.
    So don’t give me the ‘fought for his country = loved his country” routine. Plenty of traitors were formerly in the armed serves at that time.

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    illogical says:

    Be grateful that this site is not Chinese where a ‘one child, one moniker’ policy had been introduced.
    Come to think of it if the UK had the sense to follow those rules we would never have been subjected to a Ralph from an Adolph, a junior Milibrand and guest immigrants swamping the system with excessive progeny.

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    Sensible says:

    Strange is it not ? Milibands Father can be forgiven by Left Wing Halfwits for following his alledged Family lines of Communism at the age of 17 and the Daily Mail is pronounced Dreadful, Yet, a newspaper alledgely claims that Nigel Farage was a supporter of the National Front when 17 years old and everyone jumps on the banwagon to have a go at him even to the point of making up photographs of him depting him as a nazi. The Political system stinks,it is corrupt with Politicians feathering their own nest for when they are out of Politics, just look at Blair and Brown as an example. Newspapers should be allowed to print what it likes and if untrue the law route is the way to go.

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    nellnewman says:

    As I said on an earlier blog most J e w i s h i m m i g r a n t s who came here during WW2 brought enterprise and hard work . They built businesses and companies, created jobs and never relied on the state for help for themselves or their families.

    It is a great shame that this marxist militwit, who spent his whole life in university being paid for by the taxpayer, should be held up as the example of J e w i s h imm igrat ion into Britain. He is not typical at all , thank goodness.

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    Steve Miliband says:

    Fixing prices
    Land grabs
    Press gagging

    Socialism is alive and kicking

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    Dumbed-down Britain gets on my tits says:

    That’s a bit of an insult to Michael Foot! :-) At least he’d once held-down a real job (newspaper editor) and had the courage to stand by his convictions (which remained unchanged for years) and not change his mind from one day to the next, depending on which bandwagon happened to be passing, like Miliband does.

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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    Strange when the French are killing books with controls – and TVA (VAT), the British are killing the press.

    Suppose we were always a few steps ahead of them. Roll on digital press.


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    Steve Miliband says:

    I don’t read the Guardian because I don’t like it. Simple

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    Durrrr....... says:

    “…..next week the Privy Council meets to discuss newspapers’ attempt to prevent state regulation of the press.”

    Pretty fucking stupid timing by The Mail then. Thick twats.

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    nasal Ed says:

    but the Daily Mail have not done the decent people of Britain any favours by giving Ed some traction in public life in 3 days that he couldn’t achieve himself in 3 years. thanks for giving him his launch pad to the election. thanks a bunch

    headline. salacious yes. article. reasonably justisfied yes. sending a journalist to a memorial service. WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING? now they have allowed the 2 issues to be blurred and now both condemed .

    and don’t get me started on this allowing Saint Campbell to reinvent himself. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for DM right now but at least they didn’t fabricate a threat to justify an illegal war or hound a scientist to his death for daring to tell the truth. That is proper proper bullying

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    The British Publics Values says:

    I’ve changed my mind by deed pole.

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    Selohesra says:

    Mail also has every right to highlight Milibands IHT wheezes – not illeagal but certainly hypocritical.

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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    …and coming to a police state near you.

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    Steve Miliband says:

    Labour cover up on the NHS exposed – was that on Today? Was it fuck.

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    fed-up in britain says:

    The tele tax corps- want to keep you funding shagging kids. and necking champers. lovely people.

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    “What we’ve seen over the past five days is a symptom of that and it’s time he took a long hard look at the way his papers are run because I don’t believe that reflects the values of the British people.”

    The Daily Mail should riposte with: “What we’ve seen over the past five years is a symptom of a bullying, deceitful culture and it’s time he (Miliband) took a long hard look at the way his Labour party is run because I don’t believe that reflects the values of the British people.”

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    Casual Observer 3 says:

    Not necessarily. It does mark him out as an individual with totalitarian tendencies who does not respect press freedom.

    That his father was a rabid liberty hating Marxist Academic who brainwashed his children with a perverse political ideology is what really marks Ed out as being a Marxist.

    Ed should be sectioned. He is demonstrating clear symptoms of paranoid psychosis and may become violent towards his children.

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    J.Goebbels ghost says:

    Meedja, ministry of information, ministry of proaganda.
    I was a good socialist too.

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    Dr Talent says:

    Last year I read Peter Longerich’s biography of Himmler.

    “Decency” (anständigkeit) was a favourite reoccurring topic for Himmler, as he sought to justify the National Socialist ideology.

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    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Ecoloons says:

    Rubbish. He is proposing to cap energy bills for 2 years.

    He should go much further and renationalise water and power. Water is a monopoly and should never have been privatised.

    Power is a cosey cartel of the big 6, who have been allowed to profiteer at the consumer’s expense. It too should be brought back into public ownership, with the proviso that workers sign a no strike agreement.

    The ConDems are rightly seen as in the pockets of the greedy, profiteering, fat cat water & power companies.

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    Steve Miliband says:

    Too much coverage of discredited lying Campbell. Fill in here


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    Dumbed-down Britain gets on my tits says:

    You need to call your GP and get your meds increased.

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    Mehdi Hasan says:

    Guido,babe,you might recognise me from the App Store.

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    Lord Rothermere says:

    And a land grabbing totalitarian Marxist at that!

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    Ma­qb­oul says:

    If we don’t have a written constitution how can we have an amendment to it?

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    Miliband can’t wait to get in power and close down newspapers like the Daily Mail. His policy is ‘if you don’t like the message shoot the messenger’. He probably got that from his Commie dad. Communists have to control the press because their ideology is so badly flawed.

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    nellnewman says:

    I think militwit is doing the tories a favour by harking on about this supposed slur on his father. Everytime he opens his mouth at the moment he is cementing the public perception of him as Red Ed – it will do him no favours in the 2015 election.

    As for alastaircampbell – well look at his appearances in recent days on TV and radio – he has simply reminded everyone what a bullying culture labour always promote.

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    Anthony Wedgewood Benn says:


    Well said!

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    Sensible says:

    Quite so and that is how they keep under the radar. Communism is responsible for more suffering and deaths in the World than any one Group, Country etc yet all we get is the Holocaust which hides the true figures of the millions killed through Communism.

    It is very strange how supporters of the Right or Far right are attacked by all and not wanted on the Political scene yet Communism is allowed to carry on without hinder.

    If what the Mail has printed is the truth then they should stick to their story. Communism is far more Dangerous to this Country than the far Right whoever they are and all those who have history of links to Communism should be banned from Teaching and other public positions just like the BNP.

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    howsonk says:

    Watching milliband on the BBC this morning it is clear that milliband has now moved from indignation over the article on his father to an open attack on the freedom of the press generally, his phrase, the paper needs to look at its culture should send a shiver down all who want a free press, yes the story may have been over the top and distasteful but YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY THE PAPER OR READ IT, unlike the tax I have to pay to the BBC for the privilege of buying a television
    is it me or since guido joined the ranks of the hacks on grub street has this sight lost its edge, has guido got to follow the diktats from the bosses at the sun to keep all the hard stories for them, as someone who choses not to read the sun I wonder if visiting this site now is worth it

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    No economic reason? He clearly does not need to worry about paying his energy bills and the 15% green energy stealth tax that has been added to it.

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    The British media are cunts says:

    Radio 5 banging on about the Mail again.

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    Casual Observer 3 says:

    People have missed the other tell tale sign that Ed and the left have lost the argument against the mail.

    Ed is now attacking ‘culture’ at the DM.

    The left attack culture, as they have done in the UK for the past 20 years as they see it as the soft underbelly of western sociey.

    This argument should be ignored and perhaps dissected in the public arena as exposing this particularly awful aspect of the lefts attack will help people understand and recognize a Trojan assault on their values and status quo when it is presented to them.

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    not that I care says:

    Bad timing, or supreme arrogance?

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    Dumbed-down Britain gets on my tits says:

    Profiteering? The energy companies make about 6% profit on a typical household’s energy bill. The typical household’s energy bill is £1,300 per annum. Annual profit: £78, or £6.50 per month.

    £1.62 per week.

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    gramma says:

    National Socialists and Hilter tried to change the world using dead poles.

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    Harriet Harmon says:

    “Not only should we ALL reflect the values of the British people – values so clearly demonstrated in BBC.QT’s studio audience – it is our civic duty to clobber men like Quentin Lett’s who would QUESTION the values of all decent people, like Yvette.”

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    Ma­qb­oul says:

    Using words like profiteer marks you out as looney left. The motive to make profit is what makes wealth and what makes companies efficient.

    The power companies’ profits are controlled by Ofgem in case you had not heard.

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    Casual Observer 3 says:

    It’s more the the past 20 to 30 years.

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    If anyone is making the story run it is the deceitful Miliband.

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    Fair Play says:

    Those comments are a little cruel considering that Mr Milliband is the leader of the second largest political party in the country and is well respected here in the Sunset Home for the Mentally Bewildered.

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    not that I care says:

    The DM’s Circulation Wallah must be, gleefully, rubbing his grasping, twisted little hands together.

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    Mustapha Djinn says:

    Is it only me, or do others think that Millibonkers resembles a deranged penguin?

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    Ma­qb­oul says:

    Wait till Peter Oborne’s detailed piece about Campbell’s antics comes out shortly.

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    LBB says:

    Morning cat

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    not that I care says:

    P.S. Should I place “gleefully” between “must” and “be”, does one think?

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    Alex says:

    It does make you wonder doesn’t it? Regardless of what one thinks of the DM and its editorial staff, even the most foaming hater of the paper / site would have admit (if being rational rather than emotional) that said staff are experienced in their trade, and must have been aware of what the article would lead to.

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    Sir Austin Princess says:


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    Andy Capp says:

    +1 and it all coincided with New Labour and that odious person Mandelson

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    Boris Carloff says:

    Raph Miliband was only 15 in 1939, so how much fighting did he actually do? Was he a volunteer? Or was he conscripted? If so what would have happened had he not joined up? Been deported? I suspect he was a normal young conscript, who like everyone else had no alternative but join up. So this head lie ‘He fought for his country’ is absolute rubbish. He did what everyone else did who were his age.

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    Agreed. Surely the vast majority of the general public are not so dim that they have forgotten what always happens when a Labour government has been in power (i.e economic meltdown). A lot of ex-Labour voters (especially in the north) will be voting for UKIP at the next election because they can not stomach the Tory toffs and the Lib Dems are a complete joke.

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    Red Ed says:

    One Nation Socialism, I like the sound of that.

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    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Ecoloons says:

    The consumers/voters have seen their bills skyrocket by 40% since the ConDems took office.

    This plays right into Labour’s cost of living argument and will guarantee the ConDems defeat in 2015.

    The ConDems only have themselves to blame.

    Remember vote early, vote often, vote UKIP :-)

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    Casual Observer 3 says:

    The only reason the J community hasn’t turned on him is maybe because they regard him as an inneffectual runt of the litter.

    When they realize that he has their savings and livelihoods in sight also this will change.

    The J were targetted by Stalin during his purges.

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    The Daily Mail says:

    Yep…more copy and more sales!

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    Sir Austin Princess says:

    Wtf’s Billie done to his moniker? What a ponce.

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    Tom Watson protege please says:

    Massive debates. Ahh Ed. Yes cost of living crisis. Yes ordinary workers. Yes yes yes.

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    The British media are cunts says:

    funny that when Arseflange and Snowden were leaking material to the Guardian, the BBC never asked if the Guardian was a force for good or evil.

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    Dave"The One Term Prime Minister" Cameron says:

    Government announce more army cuts today and only a few days ago Tories got to their feet to applaud the armed forces.

    Yet another policy to ensure that I will become a “One Term” Prime Minister.

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    Stop The War Coalition says:

    “We ask you all to march to Fleet Street in support of Alistair Campbell’s crusade against the politician invading, Daily Mail.

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    Thames Dover Wight says:

    Ive played the wild rover for many a year
    And spent all my money on whisky and beer.

    Another drink Allister me ol comerade.

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    Andy Bumhum says:


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    Ist ammendment says:

    Every Newspaper in the UK ( and beyond ) should pick up and run with this.

    Only saving feature is that orderx2 will be the only safe haven for free speech.

    Should improve the stats.

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    Ear trumpet says:

    Followed up by a BBC-Labour assault on the DM by Radio 5 and the obviously biased Nicky Campbell. It’s in their nature and part of a bigger plan.

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    Fuck Nose says:

    Whatever floats your boat, mate.

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    Casual Observer 3 says:

    The point is Ralph didn’t fight for his country: He deserted Belgium.

    He joined the Navy in the UK but was that voluntary or just to avoid going to prison as a conchi (as Jack Straw’s father did) or because he needed money.

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    Just askin says:

    If the Mail story is not true, then Milliboy has a case for the lawyers, violins may be needed but a good lawyer can raise the dead, blame the innocent and find oil at the bottom of a live volcano, if Milliboy is using the Liebour whitewash machine then whitewash can fade and the muck will be in the sights of the media again, even using draconian laws to suppress the truth it will surface, Liebour should have kept quiet of it’s hate about mrs Thatcher, I always thought these politician’s had a truce in name calling each others families and political elders.

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    genghiz the kahn says:

    Labour Prospective Parliamentry Candidate for Kingswood…elective amnesia re parking fines.


    “Last year I learned that the charges were still live and had incurred late payment fees so I have contacted the council and agreed a repayment plan to pay off the fine.” In a statement, Barking and Dagenham Council confirmed that Ms Channer did have outstanding parking fines and fees.

    “If there is evidence that there has been a breach of the council’s code of conduct then the matter will be treated as a standards issue,” the statement continued. The council said the payment plan would be the “same with any member of the public”.

    “I would hope a thorough investigation takes place like the Labour Party has done recently in Falkirk to make sure the truth comes out.”

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    Tom Watson protege please says:

    Well it isn’t as if the BBC keeps much of its own dealings secret from the public as the defence and security establishments. The public demands that a public service that is run for the people clamps down on disreputable, rumour-led reporting about the dead. Never mind the living. Let’s just focus on socialist history please.

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    ROLF says:

    Free speech? Here? Ha ha

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    Hacking Coff says:

    That’s somewhat unfair, to a penguin, don’t you think?

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    golly says:

    Exactly. Guido would be doing everyone a favour if he kept this piece running at the top of the blog for the rest of the week to highlight the dangerous totalitarian that Miliband is. The man who resorted to backstabbing his sibling to get his job, is little short of a cynical, tacky conniver, hand in glove with the appalling Hacked Off slebs.

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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    Have I got to change my name again and put ≡ in (or EQV)?

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    Cynical Red Ed says:

    Around 36% and rising of all energy bills, is my fantastic Climate Change Act.

    Which along with driving nasty capital industry, away from this country, will make energy an expensive, intermittent luxury and thrust millions more into fuel poverty.

    Still, my two year ‘cap’ on energy price rises, that I am responsible for, should get the ‘core vote’ behind me and show them that I ‘care’.

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    Take the Tasers off the streets says:

    Police taser an 83 yr old man who wandered out of a CARE home!!

    Then off to Portugal and Europe on a wild goose chase looking for MMC

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    BBC vomit says:


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    Alex says:

    Given that both the writer of the original article and the senior staff member who Campbell drunkenly ranted at so embarrassingly are both J*wish, it’s pretty unlikely.

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    Doris Goldblatt says:

    Part-time judge Constance Briscoe denies intending to pervert course of justice over UK ex-minister’s speeding case.

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    sixupman says:

    A giant compared with Pigmy Milliband!

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    Daily Mail is a Mental Illness says:

    What you say could apply to the owner of the Daily Mail and this site. So when are they going to be sectioned?

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    nasal Ed says:

    I hope you’re right but 35% core Labour vote confirms there are an awful lot of people in this country with either short or no memories

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    Alex says:

    Campbell’s role in government was to control the press – some might say that was the state controlling the press, albeit in a more roundabout way.

    Now they’re trying to make it law rather than simple ham fisted bullying.

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    Daily Mirror on the recent (as opposed top 20 year old death of RM) death of Margaret Thatcher : “To some she fought for Britain. Many others, including the Daily Mirror, felt she spent 11 years fighting against Britain.”


    How is that any worse than saying that RM hatred Britain?
    Where was Ed Miliband’s outrage at that newspaper?

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    Hey ho what a nice day says:

    If you check back into the far past you will find, the military has also taken major hits by the Conservatives, I think around 1957 ish was the biggest as land acquired during WWII was either returned to the original owners or sold on, passed to councils or just left derelict, it’s why you find industrial area’s in the middle of the countryside.

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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    Don’t be like that!

    Have you considered that if you went along and demanded the state re-register your name to a load of symbols, that they might not be able to refuse. Think, moreover, of the pronunciation possibilities:

    We refer you to the pronunciation given in the case of Arkell v Pressdram.

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    Anonymous says:

    Somebody above thinks you are bi lly ;)

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    Sir William Waid says:

    Freedom implies responsibility.

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    Anonymous says:

    That poor Mr. Staynes isn’t even allowed to type his own name on here.

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    Tom Watson protege please says:

    Don’t let’s get started on poll-taxing, milk-snatching, Europe-hating Margaret Thatcher. All of which she was throughout. Yeah right.

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    Anonymous says:

    Totally agree.Let the newspapers print what they like. I notice Miliband has not his lawyers on to it. The Truth hurts but he is looking for high office.
    Is someone going to ask why that disgusting person A.Campbell is still feted on news programmes. He is wheeled out as the authority on just about everything. I hate the man. He should be in the tower awaiting punishment for his dreadful deeds together with the lefties at the BBC. They have destroyed free speech and this country.

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    Tom Watson protege please says:

    This is hardly political. It is a question of friends. In my experience even LDs are allowed to try to gain a few friends in slightly high places, or their wives are anyway. Perhaps those friends should be careful about the sort of free legal advice they may or may not have given.

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    Rip van Wrinkle says:

    “It shows an incredible mindset from Miliband that he feels it is a politician’s place to decide what constitutes “decency” in the media.”

    That’s news?? Try listening to Five Live right now and you’ll see that ‘incredible mindset’ is as ‘incredible’ as you may think.

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    Cynical Red Ed says:

    The rise is down to me actually.

    I built ‘green’ tariffs into my Climate Change Act and hidden green subsidy, paid for by consumers.

    The dozy coalition of clowns are bound by EU directive, to meet EU emmisions targets, put into UK law, by me.

    Those targets of course are going to be frightfully expensive and impact the poorest hardest, but hey, without poor people, who would vote for a cynical opportunist Marxist, like me?

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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    That, sir, is a grave misuse of a verb! :-D

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    Young Person Under 25 says:

    I’ve lost my job to a Pole.

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    Deed Pole. says:

    I’ve changed my name to Deed Pole.

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    Casual Observer 3 says:

    The politicians did. But Campbell and Mcbr!de under their respective directions from above changed that.

    The politicians themselves are not attacking eachothers families directly. Proxy through media and media itself are. This is odd adjustment in the terms of engagement has lowered the tone significantly in the UK. It is not new and really got going when Hamilton was knocked out of Tatton back in the 90s

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    Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

    Is it pronounced as ‘hairy beaver’, dear?

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    Yes because that would show up the total hypocrisy of the left. From the scum trying to get a vile record to number one, the nasty statements made by many Labour MPs against her, to the Daily Mirror saying that Thatcher FOUGHT against Britain.

    ‘Fought against Britain’ is far more nasty than saying ‘hated Britain’.

    So why didn’t all these self same sanctimonious twats vilify the Mirror as they are doing the Daily Mail? Total shameless hypocrites the lot of them.

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    No LEGAL reason! Just what does that mean? Does it mean that any decision no matter how stupid, damaging or plain idiotic can never be reversed?

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    nellnewman says:

    Actually you have to laugh at militwit’s demands that the dailymail examines its culture and practices.

    Did this pal of twatson, mcbride, charliewhelan and derekdraper , this suppporter of the bullying gordon ever demand of gordon that he examine his culture and practices?!!

    Irony or what?

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    Tom Watson protege please says:

    Go back to the British-only cave you live in. Mirror says “felt” meaning “felt like”. When you might learn to appreciate Britain its nationalised services then you can say that you felt she was fighting it. To say something about Ralph was below the belt because if he did intone even the slightest preference instead for abroad, that was probably taken out of context.

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    tn02 says:

    But nell, what business did they bring to the UK. Certainly not manufacturing businesses. In fact many of them were instrumental in dismantling and asset stripping what little manufacturing was left after WWII. All we saw was the explosion of banking and financial services in the City of London and all to the detriment of the rest of the UK.

    Mr Mandelson’s lot didn’t do “metal bashing”, nor did Keith Joseph’s. THAT was what the famous signs at the entrance to concentration camps was about, it really was an old warning (1873), from way before the National Socialists took power in Germany about the risks of making money lending and fraud a source of income. “Work makes you free” meant just that, an industrial economy is preferable. Unknown to many they were trying to get the people/country out of a debt based, service sector, economy. What IF some sub-populations were genetically more brain-feminised and they could not, as a consequence, take to industrial work? We HAVE learned a lot about genes and behaviour since early in the 20th, and though we ARE now more understanding and tolerant of diversity, we STILL have a long way to go towards better managing it.


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    Your dad says:

    Ed, does every thing have to be a bloody crusade

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    nellnewman says:

    Actually you have to laugh at militwit’s demands that the dail ymail examines its culture and practices.

    Did this pal of twatson, mcb ride, char liewh elan and dere kdra per , this suppporter of the bullyinggordon ever demand of gordon that he examine his culture and practices?!!

    Irony or what?

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    Doris Goldblatt says:

    Was emailed today to see if I’d advertise in the Mail. Told them racism, homophobia & misogyny was one thing, but slagging Miliband a step too far.

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    Now That's What I Call Proaganda says:

    Far from being “a good socialist”, Goebbels was a Daily Mail loving Nazi.

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    I was waiting for that one

  134. 134
    nellnewman says:

    militwit’s an opportunist. There is nothing he enjoys more than jumping on a passin bandwagon or fronting a publicity crusade.

    He’s rolled them both into one this time .

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    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    I guess he would probably say to his Marxist friends that he fought against Fascism, not for Great Britain (it was not his country of birth.)

    I see the BBC are going all out to keep the ‘Evil Daily Mail’ meme going for as long as possible – on Question Time last night (there was NO way that audience was evenly split left-right), and this morning for half an hour at 8.00 am – as soon as Radio 5 Labour had finished one anti-Mail discussion Radio 4 seamlessly started their own anti-Mail discussion.

    Stomach-churning last night also to see Trougher Kinnock on Channel 4 News calling the ‘attack’ on Milliband ‘anti-semitic.’ Every dirty trick in the book.

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    Siding up to Labour smacks of state sychophancy says:

    Speaking genuinely, not really with as much Labour sympathy on this one, let the public judge and insult the Mail for doing so loudly, but don’t start calling for a boycott. That really is the old nationalistic ways coming out in Labour.

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    Cynical Red Ed says:

    Rats like Davey don’t have to worry about the cost of energy or fuel costs.

    He can claim them all back on expenses, unlike everyone else of course.

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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    If you are talking about the primarily nocturnal (!), semi-aquatic rodent of larger dimension, then I would have thought the term hairy was otiose.

    The bald answer is of course no.

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    Your dad says:

    “Speaking on BBC Radio Five on Friday morning, the Labour leader repeated his call for Rothermere to “take a long, hard look” at the culture and practices of the newspaper group.”

    And if he doesn’t Ed, force him to take a long hard look.

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    Adrian Mole says:

    So according to Labour it is wrong and grossly unfair for Ralph Miliband to be judged on what he wrote in his diary “because he was only 17″ at the time. Yet Labour want to give 16 year olds the vote! How incongruous is that?

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    Exactly, and in the words of Wellington “publish and be damned”.

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    It is a set up says:

    The bumbling Ed is a front.

    He is a nasty piece of work alright.

    Guido you need to find out if the memorial for Keen held by the NHS at Guys hospital really was just a family gathering.

    It could not have been that important to the family as David Miliband never mentioned it until after his little brother wrote to the Mail yesterday, instead David was tweeting about dining out in San Francisco just as the memorial was held.

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    Siding up to Labour smacks of state sychophancy says:

    The first three are related to the permanent preservation of a tribe’s and by extension man’s gene pool and are hard-wired into men. Read any biologist’s account such as Sperm Wars.

    The last was wrong, but the way it has been handled has been like my father was free from sin, and I am poor victim. Unfortunately that is not true either.

  144. 144
    Ralph Miliband says:

    “When you hear the English talk of this war you sometimes almost want them to lose it to show them how things are”

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    Deed Pole. says:

    Given the context, you didn’t need to use the word at all.

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    Anonymous says:

    Miliband is undoubtedly trying to turn this story into an attack on press freedom itself, especially the parts of the press that Labour and the BBC do not like.

    Also to try and obscure the fact that the original Daily Mail article was quite correct about his father Ralph Miliband’s hostile attitude towards Britain, quoting his own words in evidence. Miliband himself has claimed that he wants to carry out his father’s “vision for Britain”, as Prime Minister.

    As for Ralph Miliband “fighting for his country”, he was a radio operator in a Belgian ship, under the command of the Royal Navy. Britain’s advanced radio equipment and communications would have been of interest to other foreign powers. One wonders whether the Comintern were lying down on the job ?

    As for the “private family memorial service”, apparently it was a gathering for fellow NHS members and supporters, and the two reporters were asking attendees for their opinions on the whole affair, as reporters tend to do. Crass, undoubtedly, but not exactly unheard-of.

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    Labour Dirty Tricks says:

    What’s the betting McPoison/Campbell will smash up dead red’s grave for dramatic effect?

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    ¶©®±¥§¿‖†‡∑∏∩√≠Ω℗‼ says:

    Strange notion that. Getting rid of unneeded contingency assets after a suitable period in which to ensure they are no longer required for defence purposes.

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    Siding up to Labour smacks of state sychophancy says:

    By the way, on the subject of racism on which I am expert, why do you think people object presently to Romania and Bulgaria? Their birthrates are among the highest in Europe. They haven’t learned to use condoms and other things such as the pill well enough to bring average no of children per female down to 2, or very close to 2. That is not racism, that is sustainability of food and ecosystems.

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    Living in 98.221% white Merseyside says:

    I see that bitter old queen Quentin Letts was on QT last night.

  151. 151
    Anonymous says:

    For a site that attempts to give the impression of fighting for-the-people, is it not interesting how many big business cheer-leaders pop up here?

  152. 152
    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    What a pedantic cop-out. Clearly another shameless, left-wing hypocrite.

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    Ognat says:

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    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    No, Miliband stood by and watched it happen and did nothing. If Miliband is so full of decency and high morals why didn’t he resign from Brown’s government?
    Miliband has no workable policies and only relies on opportunism. As for Campbell, he has no decency whatsoever.

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    Wild Goose says:

    So does this make our Ralphie a mercenary then? Why is the Mail not onto this? “Red Ed’s dad was a soldier of fortune, a Belgian deserter who sold his naval prowess to the highest bidder” great story!

  156. 156
    Usual supects says:

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    Labour Spin Doctors tell Miliband ..Don't attack the Daily Mail readers whatever you do says:

    The Daily Mail….second largest circulation daily newspaper in the UK …What’s that say about the UK ? asked a perplexed BBC Interviewer of Ed Miliband. I’m not attacking the Daily Mail readers say Miliband quickly…they are made up of some very decent people who happen to enjoy reading the Daily Mail….

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    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    I wondered when Hain would stick his lying hypocritical face into the issue. He’ll soon be on the BBC, but he will have to get in the labour line.
    Opportunism the only policy labour have.

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    old wrinkly says:

    Agree with it all. Reading this column I’m sure its written by someone in no10

  160. 160
    Anonymous says:

    Exactly who wants to vote for ex-public school city spivs?

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    I thought Ed said it was One Nation Britain.. Have you been to Africa Mr Hain? says:

  162. 162

    Mrs Thatcher fought against the Mirror’s idea of Britain

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    Edna in Clapham says:

    Not really because when the Guardian wrote a nasty piece on Cameron’s father after his death, nothing happened.

    When the low lives were dancing in the street after Thatcher’s death, nothing happened.

    When Miliband was photographed with his arm around someone with a T shirt depicting Thatcher’s grave (before she was dead!)….nothing happened.

    So why should the DM expect anything to happen if they wrote the truth about Ralphie and educated the nation?

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    There were quite a few thousand people who also did not appreciate Britain’s nationalised services at Stafford hospital. Many of us also did not appreciate the nationalised system that led to so many children dying through neglect by social care services, like the sad case in the news now. Nationalisation is inefficient and open to so much abuse because whistleblowers are sacked for highlighting what is going wrong within departments.

    Only a tribe of Neanderthals would stick up for nationalisation.

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    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    BBC News 24 the one story channel. One of our socialists has been wounded. Attack the Daily Mail. Biased BBC’s left wing at all costs agenda. Miliband is our hero.

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    Maybe they should return home to Romania.

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    Fishy says:

    What was the Mail playing at ? someone asks.

    For years I have regardrd the Mail as a false flag operation. Somewhere for the Bastard BBC and Labour to go to tp offer evidence of the loony right.

    Don’t forget its editor was a friend of Brown; it hates Cameron; it hates much of the Royal Family.

    Amd don’t forget that in the consultation on media plurality – IN WHICH WE ALL SHOULD MAKE OUR VIEWS KNOWN – the Mail stuck up for the BBC saying it should be excluded from scrutiny.

    Now they make the most sinister and dangerous man in Western poltics a hero.

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    Siding up to Labour smacks of state sychophancy says:

    Nell if you read my post above you can see (Freud is also relevant on this point) that you fill the archetypal place of a woman in society which is to point out injustices in human rights, in this case most acutely victimised in the elbow-jabbing Labour Party. In short, Labour are sick to the very core and do we want to go back to being what I understand well before I was born was called the sick man of Europe. And is the Tory party really for small business and opportunity? Surely tax-dodging is more their cup of tea.

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    Anonymous says:

    Clearly, the likes of UKIP would never play the race card?

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    And yet when the Daily Mirror said that Thatcher FOUGHT against Britain the hypocritical left were silent. Why?

  171. 171
    Banned says:

    Bloggers will be next Guido. Being based overseas won’t save you, they will use the Perry porn filter (expanded to include anything they deem undesirable) to stop you being seen. It will happen.

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    Barbarossa says:

    When did he join the navy – was it after 22 June 1941 by any chance?

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    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    I think Ed Miliband should take a long hard look within the labour party, maybe he will find some decency but I doubt it.
    Miliband really is the pits.

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    Vote UKIP - don't get owned says:

    Ah the Daily Mirror, the paper that said Thatcher FOUGHT against Britain, while her dead body was not even cold.

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    More Likey says:

    On the public payroll / benefits / entitlements conveyor.

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    Siding up to Labour smacks of state sychophancy says:

    Not from their leader. The birth rate card. You bet. Any why not? Keeping a swathe of children off the state are you?

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    Round the Bend says:

    What paper boy delivered him his copy in Berlin?

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    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    Maybe Hain can use some of his wealth to help them out. Has Hain sent them a food parcel?

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    Anonymous says:

    One mad comment. But nothing to do with Tory HQ or THEIR dirty tricks?

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    Casual Observer 3 says:


    The mail / this site merely report facts.

    Ed is a source – a damaged source.

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    Liar Liar Pants on Fire says:

    Well that’s odd Peter.

    You say Mr Hickey’s children are starving yet Mr Hickey says ““Our kids never go to school hungry. We always make sure they eat breakfast – one of them doesn’t like to eat first thing so we always make sure he has money for toast at the breakfast club at school.”

    Perhaps you are hoping that people who read your Tweets can’t be arsed to check out their validity?

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    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    Miliband is using his dead father memory for political gain. This must be the sickest labour opportunist bandwagon yet. Just how low will Miliband stoop – now you know.

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    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    Peter Hain, the Orange liar.

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    Pete says:

    He fought for three years and ended up on the Normandy beaches. Like other communists, he looked for a way to serve to beat the hell out of the Nazis. This fantasy that somehow people like Miliband, Foot and the left were appeasers is gut-wrenching when you look at their actual records: loads of these guys were fighting fascists in Spain well before WW2. Read Orwell. Read ‘Guilty Men’ by Michael Foot, 1938. crying out for action against Hitler’. Compare and contrast Rothermere, the Mail and Chamberlain.

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    Anonymous says:

    What was happening before and during Mililband’s diary entry?



    It’s a shame the treacherous ungrateful scum wasn’t jailed and deported.

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    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    Its amazing that what Hain says as only happened during the last three years. So answer this Hain – If Britain was such a utopia during labours thirteen years why didn’t labour win the last election. Why was there no money left when labour left office. Why were there food banks when labour were in power.

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    A Blast From The Past says:

    And to think that the Daily Mail was a nazi-supporting rag.

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    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    Does the Miliband family vision of Britain include a Stasi style police, total state regulation, nationalisation?
    The public needs to take a long hard look at a labour under Miliband’s vision.

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    Anonymous says:

    I would like to know why a “memorial service” was being held in an NHS Hospital in the first place, i have never heard of that happening before.

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    BBC vomit says:

    That is a good point. I can understand him wanting to exercise a right of reply to the original story, but that should have been the end of it.

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    Deed Pole. says:

    The DM’s Circulation Wallah must be rubbing his twisted little hands together.


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    Anonymous says:

    Have not heard from David Miliband. His views would be very interesting.

  193. 193
    Anonymous says:

    Well they have certainly succeeded if that was the plan !

  194. 194
    Thames Dover Wight says:

    Some 842 million people suffer from chronic hunger around the world, pick the bones out of that Peter!!

  195. 195
    Anonymous says:

    But one case wont change the outcome and if anybody tries to push it, their motives will be obvious.

  196. 196
    Anonymous says:

    “The mail / this site merely report facts”? And the award for the Joke of the Week goes to…

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    Anonymous says:

    This is the second time you have tried that in the space of a few comments. Nobody is going to take it up so stop stirring.

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    err says:

    Excellent point.
    And who paid for it?

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    Granny Grunt says:

    Empty vessels make most noise.

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    must try harder says:

    The owner and editor of the Mail aren’t
    attempting to become Prime Minister.

  201. 201
    Anonymous says:

    Go and buy the daily Mail today and boost its circulation. Perhaps this is the only way we can ensure the Mail continues to seek out the truth.

  202. 202
    Anonymous says:

    Yet again, no answers from this site – just uncalled for and cheap insults.

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    Nemesis says:

    Ah Lord Rothemere isn’t he the twat whose father suported Hitler and the Nazis? Talk about pan calling kettle black! Daily Mail is the rag that uneducted bigots read in place of the Sun which is read by uneducated chavs.

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    Miliband has just had another election broadcast on the BBC , they are like a dog with a bone on this one. I just hope the Mail will hold their nerve and stop apologising,Miliband is getting a free ride at license payers expense.

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    Labour says:

    We don’t want reporters asking questions.
    They might discover something we’re trying to hide.

  206. 206
    Village Idiot says:

    .I bought a copy of the “Mail” …Now have a party to vote for and a paper to read.”God save the Queen”.

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    Nemesis II says:

    Ah Volks Wagen. Isn’t that the company started by the N@zis to produce the people’s car?

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    oh dear says:

    He used to be a Government minister and
    yet he can’t string a coherent sentence together.

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    Round the Bend says:

    Just done a search on Ancestry – must be me but cannot find one Miliband in the Navy list; let alone his service history.

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    but says:

    The woman with the poor mummified mite,who went
    undiscovered by social workers for years, had enough
    money for booze and cannabis.

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    nah says:

    He isn’t a hero, he’s still a twat.

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    They have just repeated a section of the labour broadcast again it seems to be about every 20 minutes

  213. 213
    Anonymous says:

    I agree, Ed Milliband has been banging on about his dear old Dad in speeches, it was only a matter of time before somebody had a closer look.

  214. 214
    Peterooo says:

    “If we’re going to have those massive debates about the cost of living, we need to have proper standards of decency in our press.”

    Ed wants to mass debate, and the press is indecent?

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    Cpl Jones says:

    They don’t like it up ‘em Mr Mainwaring

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    Anonymous says:

    Ed Milliband wasnt so sensitive about a parents memory when the parent was Margaret Thatcher was he ? grinning away, arm around the shoulders of the moron in the T shirt as though it was all a huge joke .I wonder when he rang Carol and Mark Thatcher to apologise.Hypocrite is the only word.

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    Round the Bend says:

    Just had a look at Wiki and he served in the ‘Belgium Section’ of the Royal Navy, he signed up to fight for Belgium NOT BRITAIN as falsely claimed by red Ed.

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    Anonymous says:

    Refugee Imprisoned; Appeal to Press not to Publish Name. A watch dealer, described as of no nationality, was charged at Bow Street yesterday with having landed without the leave of an immigration officer. Police Constable Brown, of the Aliens Department, said the man arrived on Monday, having stowed away on a boat.If you closely follow these items, which you will generally find in obscure corners of your newspapers, you will see that the names of defending counsel in them are generally wish. Wish welfare officials attend the courts. Any magistrate who expresses concern about the evil is liable to be pilloried in the Press and in Parliament. What eventually happens to these people, no man knows. You usually read that ‘the question of deportation will be carefully considered by the authorities’ or ‘a recommendation for deportation was made’. My own belief is that the majority of these people stay; you only have to look about you to see them.

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    Anonymous says:

    ended up on the Normandy beaches ?Evidence ?

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    Anonymous says:

    The today programme actually led with the Milliband story and that is on a day were 300 people drowned near Italy, 2 children were murdered by their mothers after questionable attention from social services , and a woman was shot near the White House.Im glad the BBC get their priorities right.

  221. 221

    And re nationalise telephones, road haulage, national coaches, the aircraft industry,whats left of the steel industry, air travel ,car manufacturing and the last of the coal mines.

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    TV Nation says:

    Breaking News: In an on going attempt to hide that they on the back foot, Tory HQ continues to add fake comments/cheap insults to their site. Only this time their well used tactic is backfiring – big time. And in other good news…

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    Anonymous says:

    I agree, the sight of Milliband telling the Editor of the most popular newspaper in the country to get his act together was really funny.It will be like a red rag to a bull with readers.

  224. 224
    Jabba Le Chat says:

    Had he shape shifted to Miliband yet or did that come later?

  225. 225
    Jabba Le Chat says:

    I do like like the sound of pigs screaming in the abattoir…

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    Not a Watch Dealer of no Appearance

  227. 227
    Jabba Le Chat says:

    It’s the half full/half empty scrotum sack that precludes the dear leader from doing depth on all issues…

  228. 228
    Anonymous says:

    Sorry, what and where is the first comment you obect to?

  229. 229
    Jabba Le Chat says:

    We need to put the ham in Mohamed Mehdi Hassan…


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    Anonymous says:

    Only “6% profit” – does not sound bad when stated like that. Yet what is that in terms of pounds? Are we talking millions – or billions?

  231. 231
    Anonymous says:

    So he would have been 21 in 1945, to hear Ed Milliband talk you would think he had been an Admiral at least, i take it he was an able seaman at that age.(nothing wrong in that of course)

  232. 232
    Anonymous says:

    I tried to complain to the B B C.about their use of one A.Cambell on air. He has nothing to add to any forum because his every word is tainted, his former master has cut him free knowing full well his presence would hinder his own aim of personal enrichment.I suspect the B B C know he will follow their adgenda of left wing bias which I hope will be their undoing when next the funding round comes up.Perhaps the unions might step up to the plate for years Auntie.has worked hard on the party line.

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    Great Granddad says:

    It had long been my opinion that young Ed was simply an over privileged, juvenile, all blouse and no knickers dimwit who could safely be ignored. I now get the wisp of a suspicion that he could become nearly as dangerous, as hated, as fixated, as his infamous father, the late and unlamented Adolphe.

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    Anonymous says:

    I was under the impression that the Tories are against state control of big companies. That said, since when was Ofgem was powerful watchdog that puts our interest first?

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    g says:

    he just doesn’t see it himself … ‘its about my dad’ …tilt head
    pathetic totally transparent lightweight

  236. 236
    Anonymous says:

    To be fair if he had dementia and was violent he could have been a right handful.I an i seriously doubt they would tazer somebody just for leaving a care home !

  237. 237
    Aunt Hilda says:

    my dog has a stuffed penguin he mauls at will

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    mediation services says:

    stop it boys you’re both right – joint statement the mans a c’unt

  239. 239
    Aunt Hilda says:

    disregard what ralph said at 17 … see what he said at the ’55 labour conference to see his true colours … rabid leftie.

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    confused.... says:

    where does the normandy beaches stuff come from ?

  241. 241
    Grrr says:

    No it wasn’t, it supported some fascists for a short time.

    The Guardian/BBC has been supporting Marxist fascists for 50 years.

  242. 242
    Anonymous says:

    R. Miliband: “When you hear the English talk of this war you sometimes almost want them to lose it to show them how things are. They have the greatest contempt for the continent in general and for the French in particular”


  243. 243
    Pete says:

    He deserted Belgium! Give me a tissue, I’ve got to stop laughing.

  244. 244
    Serox says:

    yet again Geedo showing how out of touch he is with mainstream Britain

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    Beware of the Milibandit, he is out to rob us of free speech and a free press!

  246. 246
    Coeur_de_lion says:

    Apparently, Adolphe Miliband had sex with one of his students


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    Anonymous says:

    A conscienceless traitor and a sadistic black-guard and less than the scum of the earth, england unfortunately lost ww2 before it had even started.

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    won't hapen but .. says:

    it is an interesting thought to wonder what the train services would be like now if they were put into public control …make fares affordable and the volume would shoot up but the capacity is blown already so not likely to happen whilst the franchise holders compete.

    the case for utilities and water are not actually much different either.

    I say this not in any sense as a socialist suggestion purely on getting a better deal on basic necessities provision.

    The cost of repurchasing puts the contention out of court but given what we know about how the old brit rail ran with all it’s problems and strife …we’ve seen how the competing franchisees have done and frankly the lessons of both could produce what everyone wants.

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    The Eddie Boys Bandwagon tena leaks team insider says:

    the conference was a write off and hes done one on the dad bit .. why do we bother .. really … just completely hopeless

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    Anonymous says:

    Somehow i think if Ralph had been anywhere near Normandy we would have heard about it already !

  251. 251
    Cyn Ickle says:

    Perhaps the local synagogue was already booked.

    We’ve had his dad and his uncle so who is left? Granny? Aunty Olga from the Volga?

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    Anonymous says:

    Do give us details oh boring one.

  253. 253
    Anonymous says:

    In that case their parents should be done for child neglect, if they cant put some simple meals together with their benefit money the kids should be fostered. Im sorry but i am sick of lefties implying that people dont get enough money on benefits, its what they spend it on that is the disgrace.

  254. 254
    Cyn Ickle says:

    You forgot about those nasty smoky puff puffs..

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    Anonymous says:

    Actually it could be argued that they are playing a blinder, to most people saying a Marxist hates this country, and wanted Argentina to win wont go down very well !

  256. 256
    Cyn Ickle says:

    No point in complaining to that bunch of cloth ears. Just tear your licence up and refuse to renew it. Then tell Crapita’s goons to GTF off your property when they come knocking.

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    Anonymous says:

    What do you mean “the back foot” they are sitting back and letting Milliband lose the next election ! every time Milliband starts speaking about St Ralph in his sulky teenager voice another 50 votes float in to the ballot for Dave !

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    X. Sybil-Serbant says:

    There was a time when one had to fill in a questionnaire when seeking civil service employment. One question was “Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party”. The answer “yes” made for immediate disqualification. When did that change? There was also a considerable amount of background checking done before one got anywhere near the paperclip cupboard.

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    Herr Klips says:

    Which one? There are 2 in that sentence. Inglsch eez zo confuzink.

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    Herr Klips says:

    So just when did Liebore “Vahlyews” change back to normal ‘values’? I do wish I could keep up with these fast moving times.

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    Satnav prototype says:

    A couple of days ago he was on RN Arctic protection convoys. So HTF did he end up in Normandy. Must have been using a broken moral compass like all lefties have.

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    Satnav prototype says:

    Don’t wish to be petty, but elsewhere on here it was stated that he charged up the ranks to Petty Officer.

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    Ed Miliband was coached from birth that the Labour Party “stands unequivocally behind the social ownership and control of the means of production, distribution and exchange”

    Miliband wants a surveillance state like Obama’s (see http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-10-02/chief-dhs-privacy-officer-government-called-privacy-office-terrorists).

    Central control means everything especially the press, but would never declare this in a manifesto to let us all decide just like the unelected European Council

  264. 264
    Darren Cahil says:

    Ok, but let’s look at the real issue, the Labour party is undemocratic, but so is the the Daily Mail. If the DM responded with such a riposte, would agree that it would be the pot calling the kettle black? Last time I checked, the editors of the DM are not elected and subject to recall.

    On the free press: I oppose this state regulation of the press, but that doesn’t mean we have a free, democratically controlled press. We either have the bureaucratically state run media in the form of the bbc, or corporate media that prostitutes itself to corporate advertisers.

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    Mind the gap! says:

    Then call Mussolini – he’d know what to do!

  266. 266
    Mind the gap! says:

    Must have been the ongoing effects of Ali’s faked Iraqi pics in the Mirror all those years ago.

  267. 267
    Mind the gap! says:

    You urgently need to read some decent history books, son.

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    RMiliband's obituary says:

    Joined the Royal Navy Belgium section only after Laski intervened.
    Always awarded academic positions from his political friends.
    Wrote, lectured, and member of faculty always surrounded by his political friends.
    Other interests outside academia? None. Helped out outside academia? None. Reasonable to be called spoon fed socialist. Never dirtied hands or inconvenienced himself helping people outside academia. Oh and he made a will, keeping it in the family.
    And Ed&Ded political trajectory? Down to nepotism?

  269. 269
    Matilda says:

    … and Hain should fuck off back to Zululand where he came from. Lots of starving picaninnies there he can bleat about to his heart’s content

  270. 270
    Darren Cahil says:

    But the DM tried imply that there was a connection between Ralph’s Marxism and Ed. Ed Miliband is explicitly Labourite and parliamentary, constitutionally labourite. Ralph Miliband derided parliamentary socialism – as does the Daily Mail. :D

    The DM made itself look ridiculous and has been subject to ridicule for that reason. Imagine if a piece was made about former Tory party leadership contender Michael Portillo’s father being a socialist? As his father, he most likely had an influence on him, but nobody would accuse the Eurosceptic Michael Portillo of being a socialist. And that is the very point that was made on Andrew Neil’s This week programme. The DM clearly opened itself to ridicule!

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    Matilda says:


  272. 272
    Matilda says:

    Could well be – also I bet many a left wing chav owns a Golf or Polo. More hippo crissy?

  273. 273
    Darren Cahil says:

    @RMiliband’s obituary says:

    Let’s break some of this down shall we.

    ‘Always awarded academic positions from his political friends.’


    ‘Wrote, lectured, and member of faculty always surrounded by his political friends.’


    ‘Other interests outside academia?’

    Er, I’m sure he had other interests or hobbies.

    ‘Helped out outside academia?’

    He worked for a living, what would you have expected him to do? Starve?

    ‘Reasonable to be called spoon fed socialist.’

    Stating opinion as fact.

    ‘Never dirtied hands or inconvenienced himself helping people outside academia.’

    The Royal Navy would like to have a word with you on that.

    ‘Oh and he made a will, keeping it in the family.’

    Keeping what in the family exactly? Besides, I thought conservatives were supporters of family.

    ‘And Ed&Ded political trajectory? Down to nepotism?’

    Ralph was very critical of parliament and Stalinism! Ed Miliband is a one nation labourite, I don’t see any nepotism connection. Ralph Miliband would have strongly discouraged Ed Miliband becoming a parliamentarian. Maybe you need to look up the word Nepotism again.

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    Anonymous says:

    I remember reading about Ed Milliband sitting at Tony Ben`s feet as a child.Strangely enough Tony Ben was bigging up Ralph on R4 this morning !

  275. 275
    Anonymous says:

    Dazza, ffs google it if you are so interested.

  276. 276
    Anonymous says:

    At 21 ? sounds a bit unlikely.

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    a lollard amok. says:

    The Daily Mail showed what a smart operator it is by publishing its attack on Ed Miliband’s father just as the Conservative Party began its annual conference. The HATEful abuse of a decent man produced two results : one, it alienated every normal and decent person in the country (not, of course, the spittle-flecked morons you get on here) and two, it enabled all the newspapers to ignore the Tory party conference. Well done, Mr. Dacre! Keep up the good work!

  278. 278
    Anonymous says:

    We havent hears much about Glenn and Miranda lately have we ?

  279. 279
    Anonymous says:

    He was quite good, but by the cringe isnt Yvette a pain in thr derriere ?

  280. 280
    Anonymous says:

    Decent man ! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !!

  281. 281
    Anonymous says:

    Ed has well and truly made a pratt of himself on this one, he comes over as a petulant schoolboy not a man of 44.He was quite happy to be part of a Government that did a lot of questionable things, not least the smearing and vilification of enemies by Campbell and Mc Bride.Is it likely that such a man would be genuinely distraught about a throw away comment by a tabloid ?

  282. 282
    The Maimed Badger says:

    My “Marxist ” Wife said she is cooking Gulag tonight, with half baked Engels, or something like that. Last time I got the Trotts…

  283. 283
    a lollard amok. says:

    I suppose, to an anonymous moron, this constitutes an argument.

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    Better Dead than Red says:

    Only for a short time, before the outbreak of war, after the Russian atrocities where they murdered between 80 to 100 million people.

  285. 285
    OUT OF EU NOW says:

    Welcome to the very large club, we meet at the dole office, Tuesdays at 2. Soon to be every day.

    Its great, there’s even more Poles down the job centre, so its super fun to compete against them for minimum wage jobs! see you there!

  286. 286
    Backstabber says:

    Don’t seem to remember them complaining when Farage’s teacher was reminiscing about the 16 year old Farage…

  287. 287
    Anonymous says:

    As this politico would never have qualified for the Brownies this type of point scoring is OTT.
    I read that his father had a comfortable life in Belgium before seeking better oratory outlets in mixed up Britain post 1945.

  288. 288
    Backstabber says:

    What I really don’t understand about all this is that if Ed really “believes it is for politicians to decide whether papers “reflect the values of the British people”.” surely all he needs to do is to leave things alone. Papers which do not reflect the values of the British people will lose sales and quickly go out of business.

    If he’s saying that all the British people have the same values then we would only need one paper and that, presumably could be written by him and his acolytes as they would understand the values everyone has.

    But then…. oh, hold on a moment, I understand it now!

  289. 289
    Backstabber says:

    As you are on here can we assume that you consider yourself a “spittle-flecked moron”?

  290. 290
    Backstabber says:

    Everyone knows that Ed has always been a mass debater!!

    Nice one!

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