September 26th, 2013

Watch Teenagers Declare Benefits Bill Should Be Slashed

Here is one that does not fit the usual narrative. Teenagers polled by Newsnight last night collectively agreed to slash the unsustainable benefits bill and use the money to pay down the national debt and increase spending on education and health. Maybe the Tories should not be so worried about votes for sixteen year olds…

Video via Liar Politicians

64 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    Still want to give 16-year-olds the vote, Ed?

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      The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

      Out of the mouth of babes.

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    • 12
      JadedJean says:

      As Guido probably knows too well(?), those who peddle this anarchism, abuse the younger generation as the latter have not invested their taxes or labour in the creation of the state (welfare, state education, transport, means of production, NHS etc), so mistakenly think they have nothing to lose. In fact, they’re cutting their own legs off as they will discover, after it’s too late.

      There are those who don’t want people to see this.

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      • 41
        Yeah, right.... says:

        There wasn’t a ‘spend less overall’ or ‘reduce taxes’ option.

        These children probably assume that government has that money by right and it all must be spent.

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      • 62
        lojolondon says:

        Of course the pillock took only a couple of chips off the benefits stack, he should have cut it by 90%!!

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    • 48
      Too many Ed's says:

      ‘The Horror, The Horror!

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  2. 2
    The Labour Party says:

    The working class can kiss our arse,
    Social engineering has paid off at last.

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  3. 3
    Fuck the LibLabCon says:

    Any British kids get a say?

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  4. 4
    Owen Jones says:

    Look at that photo, a bunch of fascist racist Nazis. Don’t listen to young people, they`re a bunch of Tory exploiters !! VOTE LABOUR !!

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  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    Since all money issued by the banks is backed by debt, if you pay off the national debt you shrink the economy. If you borrow more you grow the economy but increase debt (as the Tories have found out).

    The real solution to the problem is to look how money is created in the first place. Neither party will address this though.

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    • 11
      Mervyn says:

      That’s a load of rubbish.

      Ever thought about the value added concept in the line of production?

      A piece of wood is worth more as a table than as a piece of wood.

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      The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

      The money issued by banks is money created by government via Q.E. The national debt is still rising because the current government is too scared to cut public spending. If you really want to know what the state ignoring that national debt leads to, look at Greece.

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      • 29
        Can of Worms says:

        The government creates the money so why is it indebted to anyone?

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        • 42
          The Federal Reserve Act says:

          Privately owned central banks create the money.

          Look up who the share holders are of the BoE and the Federal Reserve.

          “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” – Woodrow Wilson

          The Rothschilds
          “The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from its profits or so dependant on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class.” – Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863

          “Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws” – Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

          http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Woodrow_Wilson

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        • 60
          Parasite says:

          The truth is antisemitic

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    • 51
      Right Full Rudder says:

      We could pass a law tomorrow canceling our debt to large institutions (not private bondholders) and refuse to pay them back. They could do nothing about it. Of course that would mean no bank would ever lend to us again so we couldn’t spend more than we could raise in tax. Now ask yourself why the main parties won’t do it.

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  6. 6
    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    Looks like the Welfare Party, courtesy of Red Ed, called this one wrongly!

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  7. 9
    BREAKING NEWS says:

    Iain Dale, Damian McBride’s book publisher, receives caution after admitting common assault over protester scuffle

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  8. 10
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Giving the vote to 16 year olds is on a par with handing a chimpanzee a loaded revolver.

    With social media an organised “yoof” movement could do real damage to the grown up world.

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  9. 14
    Anonymous says:

    So there you have, 16 year olds are smarter than MPs.

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    • 17
      WoRaft ChIHUAHua says:

      Up to a point, but they are only arguing about how to spend other people’s money. They thereby subscribe to the state-knows-best narrative without even realizing it. Nobody has said “Where is the coloured circle which says tax cuts?” Still, Newsnight so I should not be surprised. If any teenager said such a thing they’d be told it was irrelevant in this context and banished from the screen.

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  10. 15
    One Term Dave says:

    Guido still scraping the barrel. Today’s teenagers are thick and ignorant. Even reading the Sun newspaper is probably beyond their capabilities. How many of them know who Winston Churchill was?

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  11. 16
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Ecoloons says:

    I see Rajoy is claiming Gibraltar is the last colony in Europe and is taking his case to the UN.

    The Spanish banks & economy must be in even more trouble than we thought :-)

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  12. 18
    Jimmy says:

    Nice of Gideon to lend them his office.

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  13. 19
    No such thing as society says:

    Why do I doubt the chimps used in the above clip actually understand what the benfits bill includes? They probably consider its all made up of JSA claimants as they are evil according to the media.

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  14. 21
    Owen Jones says:

    Those teenagers don’t speak for teenagers. I speak for teenagers.

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  15. 22
    Operation neutralise grey vote is now in effect says:

    Most of them,if not all,would still vote labour though.

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  16. 23
    McPoison says:

    I wonder if the Labour smear machine will now go into action against these teenagers.

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  17. 27
    Kieran E says:

    The weird thing is I would bet they probably will almost all vote Labour despite that view. People think Labour is more the party of the young, so expect themselves to, by and large.

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  18. 28
    Ron Barras says:

    Young or old, everyone knows it pays to tackle scroungers who claim unemployment benefit for years.

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      One Term Dave says:

      Or indeed any type of scrounger: politicians, royalty, BBC employees, energy company directors, etc, etc.

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  19. 33
    Hideously.... says:

    Where’s Michael Crick when you need him to ask where the white kids were in that sample?

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  20. 35
    Surrey Shiresman says:

    Ah, so this is Ian Katz at work. Shouty kids move things around in a games hall instead of debating public policy? It’ll probably be called @Nuznite soon.

    Still, well done to these youngsters who know it’s high time we stopped paying people to sit at home. Far too many people in the Welsh Valleys and the North think they can tap a stream of cash for life without ever having to move for work.

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  21. 43
    Operation neutralise grey vote is now in effect says:

    Left wing teachers and peer pressure will ensure most kids will vote Labour.
    Miliband not only knows this,he is relying on it.

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  22. 44
    The Fallen Angel says:

    I’m a secondary teacher and have taught 11-18 year olds in several places across the country but mainly in what politicians would term as socio-economically deprived areas and more importantly in marginal constituencies.

    I would say quite safely that a significant majority (like 75% or so!) are quite right wing and anti- benefits / immigration etc. Give them the vote and you will see a very radical centre-right emerge.

    If a political party then decided to promise to use some of the money saved to make higher education more affordable / lessen the burden there even just a bit and you could get a big swing to them…

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    • 61
      No such thing as society says:

      Because teenagers are self centred and not too bright therefore perfect Tory voting fodder.

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  23. 47

    Oh well! Perhaps there is a future after all.

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  24. 49

    I was actually in this video, I think the way news night cut it was AWFUL, there was some real intense debate going on here and each of us had a lot to say. Trust me when I say young people are A LOT more liberal if anyone will vote left it’s probably the younger generation if they played more of the debate then I think it would have been clearer to see that it was much more pulled towards the left then it was the right. We chose not to prioritize things like national debt, pensions and benefits. In the filming we put more money on education and took LOADS out of defense to the point we had pretty much a few chips left on it. BTW I think this was really badly edited and does not do anything in any way to promote votes at 16 positively.
    @ChantejosephMYP

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    • 53
      Sandra in Accounts says:

      As you grow older & wiser, & maybe read some recent history, please look up who said:

      ” Those who desire peace must prepare for war”.

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    • 54
      Too many Ed's says:

      This ‘comment’ was badly edited, learn to use paragraph’s; they won’t bite!
      I fell asleep after the 2nd line.

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  25. 55
    Bert the Builder says:

    They weren’t that keen on reducing the National Debt though.

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    • 58
      Nogbad the Bad says:

      They haven’t realised that they are the ones who will suffer most by having to pay tax just to pay the interest on money borrowed by people who will be dead.

      They should have been told that each of them already owe £19,000 and what the interest on that is each year.

      Source http://www.debtbombshell.com/

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  26. 57
    Parasite says:

    You’ll always find some brainwashed dupes. They probably went to QE Boys or City of London

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    Atualpa says:

    Surely the BBC were in breach of their own ethnic guidelines in only featuring blacks in their rather feeble item. Another sign that the BBC is now quite rudderless?

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    Anonymous says:

    The Money Game

    A man to create a business venture has to persuade well-heeled folks to invest their spare money into the venture. The manufacturing side of the venture involves employing people to produce the product. Most people have no spare money to invest and so instead they can only invest their time and labour for which they receive from the employer a weekly or monthly wage. Hopefully the wage will cover the employee’s domestic outgoings but there will seldom be any money left to save. The years and decades pass by. Meanwhile the employer enjoys his profits and uses some of them for the ongoing expansion of his business venture, and the investors enjoy their non-time-consuming, effortless, increasing dividends, whilst the employees financially mark time. Should orders for the products drop the first to lose their income will be the employees. So now we have many unemployed people searching for employment from a failing devoid of jobs market, and meanwhile the latest brain storming session comes up with” The unemployed to qualify for means-tested benefits must work full-time. I assume these workers on benefits would be replacing wage-earning workers?
    Anyone read 1984 lately; the return of the pre-WW2 “Keep your place Laddie” syndrome.

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