March 21st, 2013

Clegg Says Scrap MPs’ Booze Subsidy

Clegg initially tried to deny the existence of the Commons booze subsidy on LBC this morning, but when presented with the facts by Nick Ferrari the Deputy PM gave in: “I haven’t seen the prices, but my knee jerk reaction is why should MPs be subsidised for drinking in the House of Commons?”

The £5.8 million subsidy would be a good place to begin, but it is also worth pointing out that since parliament’s watering holes are inside a Royal Palace, many of the bars pay no rent or business rates whatsoever. Research by the ASI calculates that they are saving £1.4 million-a-year as a result. All at the taxpayer’s expense…

Here are some of the other posts on the issue Guido has put out over the years:


  1. 1
    News Bot says:

    Rowan Atkinson has written to the BBC to complain about himself.

  2. 2
    Ah! Monika says:

    Guinness or Bitter?

  3. 3
    Steve Miliband says:

    The 6 pints you had look like they would be a legitimate expense claim in the pursuit of a relevant story

  4. 4
    Suggestion Box says:

    Make Strychnine subsided and give them that. All of them

  5. 5
    Vince Cable says:

    I’ve checked my records and can confirm I’ve never had a subsidised drink.

  6. 6
    Ibbo says:

    Nick Clegg called “Moonshine” a pint of Larger.

    Its not its actually a Pale Ale.

    An it is a nice pint as the brewery owns the pub next to his office…..


  7. 7
    Alcoholics Ananymous says:

    It must have been a heroic pub crawl to get all those prices Guido

    All you alive this morning?

  8. 8
    NAAFI says:

    Your Logic is flawed though Guido as why should a Royal palace pay business rates?

    Given that every military base in the UK has Officers/NCOs/ratings messes, all with their own bars, do you want to see them pay business rates too?

  9. 9
    Rasta Bob, your friendly supplier says:

    The real question is

    Do these scrougers get a reduced rate on the white stuff as well?

    Especially the Leader of the Oppositions Office?

  10. 10
    Old Nick says:

    I often have to eat my own words. So why not drink your taxes.

  11. 11
    Count of Monte Christo says:

    Ed Ball can’t count properley

  12. 12
    Michelin Guide says:

    The Westminster Arms are a little expensive nowadays it seems

    You made them too famous Guido…

  13. 13
    Just asking says:


    Can you tell me where all the shirtlifters gather among all these watering holes?

  14. 14
    Jack says:

    I suggested this threat…

    Old Nick has just eaten his own gerbil…

  15. 15
    Col Nut says:

    And compulsory laughing gas for entry to the public gallery.

  16. 16
    JacLibDem Lord says:

    I miss Bryony’s tits

  17. 17
    V1le, vicious Labour ruined my Country says:

    Yes but nobody minds if the military have a bar. It’s the political class cockroaches, who are robbing us blind, that must be made to pay the economic rate.

  18. 18
    If you're not Gay you're history says:

    All of them!

  19. 19

    Council owned car parks and cemeteries in the UK pay council tax.

  20. 20
    Lordy Lordy says:

  21. 21
    Just Asking says:

    So where can one buy this 20p can of Lager that Dave likes to speak of?

    As hard as I have tried I have yet to find it.

  22. 22
    Ah! Monika says:

    Clegg says he knew not of any subsidy.

    Surely he reads this blog.

  23. 23

    Polly will get hers out in compensation.

    Turn to page 3 lads {and drooping over onto pages 4 and 5 }

  24. 24
    Anse Hatfield IV, West Virginia USA says:

    You should try some of the “moonshine” we and the McCoy clan cook up– it isn’t lager OR ale, it’s more like vodka that hasn’t been wussified!

  25. 25
    2 Hymns and a Prayer, that's your lot says:

    Both of those are big businesses that charge big money for a basic service.

    When will Dave introduce gay cremations and gay parking spaces.

  26. 26
    Bless their pointy little heads says:

    Let them eat Horse!

  27. 27
    Son of Sun says:

    Dick Cleg
    Ate my

  28. 28
    Stolen innocence 2012 of United Wheeldom says:

    Reblogged this on stoleninnocence2012's Blog.

  29. 29
    Charles Kennedy says:

    For Gods’ sake Clegg! Not content with ruining my country and destroying my party, you’re now trying to bugger up my social life as well!! I’m starting a new radio phone in called ‘Cull Clegg!’

  30. 30
    Commie purpose says:

    Does Prescott shagging his tax payer funded secretary count as a ‘boob subsidy’?

  31. 31
    gramma says:

    If Joyce is a prime example of Westminster riff-raff, then the subsidy seems a worthwhile cost to keep them seperated from frequenting more sociable watering holes.

  32. 32
    Hear no Evil, See no Evil Clegg says:

    I am a bit of a monkey aren’t I?

  33. 33
    Que? says:

    Standard Cleggism

    “I Know nothing, ask Vince”

    Vince will reply.

    “I don’t remember”

  34. 34
    Only if it is armed with Napalm, dear. says:

  35. 35
    Only with Napalm, dear. says:

  36. 36
    Gideon says:

    Are those prices before or after my budget?

  37. 37
    Anonymous says:

    Looks like another omnishables.

    1) No child benefits if you earn over £60k but £1,200 per child if you earn up to £300k.

    2) £130bn deposit for houses, no need to pay interest for 5 years on it. Interest subsidy over 5 years will be £40bn. Where is the money coming from?

    3) Osborne is saying “cheque in post”. This is how Osborne is cutting deficit.

    4) Seems departmental underspent for this year include March 2013 salaries. Is Osborne not going to pay March salary.

  38. 38
    Maq­boul says:

    I think they deserve the subsidy. At my local one can drink it perfect safety free from the risk of getting a right ol’ kicking from Eric Joyce. So I don’t mid paying a little extra for that peace of mind.

  39. 39
    Boozer says:

    That Wetherspoons price seems rather high. I’m sure their beers (real ales, not pseudo-lager fizz shite) are less tham £3 a pint out here in the real world (i.e. not London).

  40. 40
    Lord Hippo of hypocrites says:

    A DPG officer banged some bird on duty and got 9 months in the clink. The Rt Hon wobba has it away with his sec, god alone knows how many times, and he’s made a Lord. Oh how I long to drink cheap beer, knob my secretary and finish the day by head butting a Tory!!!

  41. 41
    Wot no women! Harriet well have something to say, won't she? says:

  42. 42
    Maq­boul says:

    Exactly ! The military risk their lives for their country. Members of Parliament do not (unless Eric Joyce is in the House).

  43. 43
    Another fine mess says:

    From Iran to Zimbabwe and New York to Sydney, the world’s media has reacted with astonishment to the assault on a free Press in Britain.

    As plans to shackle newspapers with state regulation were unveiled, the French declared it a ‘sad day’, the Canadians said it was ‘a mess’ and the Australians branded it ‘scary’.

    Even the Russians are aghast, with Britain’s humiliation complete as newspapers in Moscow and authoritarian regimes such as Ukraine accused the UK of censorship.

  44. 44
    Oh Lordy Lordy says:

    That sounds like the bankers and the Murdoch Mob

    Standard Operating Procedure nowadays

    And lawyered up the gunwales…

  45. 45
    Err says:

    Specsavers 4 U

  46. 46
    Steve Miliband says:

    So glad your leader Hugh Grant bought all of this up in his response to the Budget – I mean it would have been a bit pathetic to say nothing and just repeat pre-scripted insults

  47. 47
    Bless their pointy little heads says:

    He gets really, really nasty when he’s had a drink apparently., cup of Earl Grey tea.

  48. 48
    Huge Grant MP says:

    At least 3 munters

  49. 49
    Good news from BBC says:

    BBC staff are to stage a 12-hour strike on Thursday, 28 March in a continuing row over job cuts.

  50. 50
    Bless their pointy little heads says:

    That ones Dromey in drag.

  51. 51
    Wyle Cop says:

    Typical Shepherd Neame (over)prices – and they aren’t much less in their home county of Kent.

  52. 52
    Equality says:

    A Question of Sport. Six blokes.

  53. 53
    Got a life says:

    Who will notice?

  54. 54
    Gordon says:

    That’s the way to do it. Stand for election when no one else will. It’s the right thing to do.

  55. 55
    Grant McCann says:

    £1.95 for some real ales in the Wetherspoons in Fratton.

  56. 56
    stun says:

    “The deposit freeze imposed in Cyprus this week is a de facto restriction on the free flow of capital. If other forms of capital controls are introduced as part of a programme agreed between the Cypriot authorities and the EU-IMF, Fitch would review the ‘AAA’ Country Ceiling assigned to all eurozone countries (other than Greece, whose Country Ceiling of ‘B-‘ reflects the risk of a euro exit), which is premised on the free movement of capital across the eurozone.”

  57. 57
  58. 58
    Bless their pointy little heads says:

    Doesn’t sound like they are too confident of gaining any sympathy, 12 hour strike?, thought the minimum these days was 24 hours (one day strike).

  59. 59
    Sack the lot of them says:

    GOOD. Let’s hope they strike more often. Then more people will realise that they are over staffed, over paid and over the top.

  60. 60
    pissed off voter says:

    Excellent! So we can expect Clegg to get this subsidy removed tout de suite? Or will it go the way of promises on tuition fees, member recall, lords reform, boundary change, etc.

    WTF does Clegg actually do other than a radio show

  61. 61
    Anonymous says:

    Everyone will. Huge improvement of service.

  62. 62
    Vote UKIP -- Get rid of the LIBLABCONNERS says:

    LibLabConners effectively stealing from the taxpayers as usual.

  63. 63
    S.B.S. says:

    Bars paying no rent or business rates.
    Rather than charge them, Drop the rates and rent of all bars in London.
    A better idea, starve the councils, Better still they should all pay only 50% of their dues. They can not jail them all.

  64. 64
    Screwed Taxpayer says:

    How much have the fuckers spent on the new News Room?

    Dave — cut the TV Licence Fee by 10% year on year indefinitely.

    You won’t of course, because you are a useless gutless tosser

  65. 65
    Could you please just explain to me why says:

    Nick Clegg?

  66. 66
    Matilda says:

    Hand them their P45s on the way out and don’t let them back in again. The saving can be put to reducing the telly tax to a tenner a year.

  67. 67
    Fannie and Freddie says:

  68. 68
    Vin Scable says:

    Sorry I can’t help you. I have checked my personal records and I have no record of ever knowing why Nick Clegg.

  69. 69
    Broadwsword isn't ever calling that bitch Danny Boy again says:

    Fuck you Brillo.

  70. 70
    Ma Supial says:

    Ruddy ‘ell. {geddit?}

    Load of frit wombats. Mind you that Julie bird is a real tough cookie. Welsh rugger player wasn’t she?

  71. 71
    Lord Everard Rennard says:

    I say, what a pair of beauties. Does the young lady want to apply to be a candidate?

  72. 72
    Curly says:

    Ah, so now we know. It was the risk of an EU exit that got the UK its downgrade.

  73. 73
    Curly says:

    Walks and chews gum!

  74. 74
    Mitch says:

    It only applies to new purchases. But, yes, those mortgages will in turn become sub-prime.

  75. 75
    Curly says:

    Obviously. You appear to have forgotten the 800 million new walls that will require papering.

  76. 76
    Anonymous says:

    Exactly right Ah! Monika – just shows how out of touch they really are, or that they are just bare-faced liars – take your pick.

  77. 77
    Mitch says:

    There are reasons why Wetherspoon’s beer is cheap. Not necessarily good ones.

  78. 78
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion says:

    They are so bone idle and fat with tax payers money, that they can’t even do a proper days striking. LOL

  79. 79
    Anonymous says:

    It is a clear step change in house prices.

    This is a gain for all house owners only. It has nothing to do with house buyers as the market will still target itself to the available purchasers.

    All those stupid to buy in the boom will be able to move now. This government rewards stupidity. I suppose like minds do look after one another.

  80. 80
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion says:

    Better still just stop paying it. I haven’t paid it for 8 years ;-)

    Organise (via twitter etc) a mass telly tax payers revolt using the ‘not known at this address return to sender’ and cancellation of any Direct Debits.

    The Aussies did it in 1974 before the internet even existed.

  81. 81
    black into pink produces offwhite. says:


  82. 82
    Axe The Telly Tax & Religion says:

    I’ve reduced mine to zero. LOL

  83. 83
    Laurie says:


    Have run out of boxes

  84. 84
    Don't get me fuckin started says:

    Yeah but that prick Clegg says loads of things he then doesn’t do or does differently

  85. 85
    black into pink produces offwhite. says:

    in a cyclical world….perhaps oz wil return 2 its former status.

  86. 86
    Who needs cheep energy says:

    “From April 2013 the carbon price floor announced at Budget 2011 will come into effect, providing a clear and credible long-term signal to support investment in low carbon electricity generation.”

    Gotta save the EUs ETS, while screwing the consumer and business more.

  87. 87
    diamond is the only alter.native says:

    in a demonic world only demons r born free.
    either b a billionaire or nowt.

  88. 88
    Guess what says:

    I deny everything.

  89. 89
    Jumbo says:

    Bang on! I’ve no problem supporting the services who do more for this country in a day that bunch of scrim shankers in the HOC do in 50 years.

  90. 90
    Penfold says:

    Perhaps we might Eric Joyce his opinion of publicly subsidised bars for MP’s.

    With our elected representatives increasingly at odds with the realities of living costs faced by the electorate, how can the subsidy be justified.

    This subsidy just makes the disconnect all the more tangible.

  91. 91
    P l e b says:

    Most soldiers earn less than £65k + expenses too

  92. 92
    charles kennedy says:


  93. 93
    Anonymous says:

    A pint is £2.90-£3 in the HoC, not £2.20.

  94. 94
    thick people in power says:

    Magic…the market for purchases of existing homes will now take another knock as first time buyers look to new builds instead. Well done Gideon, you fucking bollocks

  95. 95
    militant my arse says:

    They wouldn’t want to be out on the picket line for too long.
    Their fingers and toes would get chilly.

  96. 96
    Geordieboy says:

    They will have to get a job Diane

  97. 97
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    From now on, the old saying of “running with the hare and hunting with the hounds” will be replaced by the word, “Clegging”.

  98. 98
    Geordieboy says:

    Good a 12 hour refund on my license fee please.

  99. 99
    Geordieboy says:

    Prick Clegg says ” I love butter and jam on both sides of my bread.”

  100. 100
    Jim says:

    Why the fuck are we paying for the scumbags booze?

  101. 101
    lojolondon says:

    Clegg is a born liar – to claim he never realised the HOC pub was subsidised – really!!

  102. 102
    Biffo says:

    5 years non-payment from me. I can put the money to much better use.

  103. 103

    Another knee jerk, like that and Cleggy will spill his beer and go home clegless!

  104. 104
    anon says:

    ED Balls doesn’t Count

  105. 105
    Anonymous says:

    A considerable proportion of the drinks sold in the Commons bars are consumed by the constituents of MPs i.e. taxpayers, who aren’t allowed to pay themselves. The last pint bought for me cost more than £2.20 from what I could see. But I didn’t see Clegg propping up the bar.

  106. 106
    Red Barrel says:

    Can tell you’re a Tory, Fawkes. Most drinkers in the Commons bar are Labour. Nothing is too good for the representatives of the working classes

  107. 107
    Stuart says:

    It’s about time the subsidy was ended for all food and drink, the price for food should be at whatever the true cost is… as far as booze is concerned I see no justification for alcohol to be made available in the legislature, shouldn’t they be sober to do their job?

Seen Elsewhere

Users of Gay Hook-Up App Grindr Infected | TechnoGuido
ISIS Raising Funds Online Using Bitcoin | TechnoGuido
UKIP’s Youth Challenge | BBC
ISIS Operative: This Is How We Send Jihadis To Europe | BuzzFeed
Shapps Defends Bashir Defection | Seb Payne
Tory Leadership Contenders Jostle Over Europe | Alex Wickham
Cutting Taxes is Good For You | Art Laffer
Suspects Will Now Have to Prove Innocence | Laura Perrins
Labour Cllr: Cops Shouldn’t Stop Petrol Thieves | HandF Forum
Creeping Cultural Acceptance of Anti-Semitism | Eric Pickles
Time For Greece to Leave Eurozone | Allister Heath

Rising Stars
Find out more about PLMR AD-MS

Boris on British Jihadis. Apparently based on MI5 intel:

“If you look at all the psychological profiling about bombers, they typically will look at porn. They are literally w***ers. Severe onanists. They are tortured. They will be very badly adjusted in their relations with women, and that is a symptom of their feeling of being failures and that the world is against them. They are not making it with girls, and so they turn to other forms of spiritual comfort — which of course is no comfort.”

Tip off Guido
Web Guido's Archives

Subscribe me to:


AddThis Feed Button

Guido Reads

Get every new post delivered to your Inbox.

Join 1,715 other followers