February 19th, 2013

Poll: Majority Want Cannabis Decriminalised

Before Christmas the PM rejected calls for a royal commission on drugs, arguing somewhat unfeasibly that the current policy was “working”. Despite that Clegg has moved in the right direction coming out as pro-liberalisation, packing off Jeremy Browne “Sugar” to Amsterdam on an, ahem, “fact-finding mission”. Tonight a new Ipsos Mori poll shows that 53% support either the legalisation or decriminalisation of cannabis.

Two thirds want a review of all policy options, rather encouragingly that figure increases to 70% among Conservative supporters. A Portuguese-style decriminalisation of drugs is also backed by just under half of the population. Dave is resisting the British public’s freedom to party…


  1. 1
    Kebab Time says:

    It is not for the state to dictate to me what i put in my body.


    • 9
      Simon B says:

      I can’t stand the LibDems, but I do agree with them on this.


      • 18

        8illy you formless twat. If the state provides you with money and has to pick up the pieces, then it can dictate what you put into your body. If you could get your security job back at the Council depot and start earning your own money again and can afford your own medical insurance, then you can whatever and whoever you like into your degusting body.


        • 19
          Troll Patrol says:

          You are not the real @CRMM: You are 8illy, and I claim my five quid.


          • Just because I make the occasional non pseudo-intellectual comment does not mean that I am not the real deal.

            What is real anyway – in this life of plenty (wine and friends in town) is is not as clear as it might otherwise be.

            Think on my musings for he that does not think, does not think. Away now for coffee, for it will soon start to chill. To the ramparts!


          • Troll Patrol says:

            You seems not to be to the real CRMM.

            The real CRMM has a certain style, which your close approximation does not match. Dwell on the grammar style, syllable counts and use of punctuation.

            Methinks you have a touch of the 8illy, but that is only because you mentioned him first.


          • Ma­qboul says:

            It’s that twat t­at again with his modus operandi of feeble imitation and an unhealthy interest in tormenting poor B­illy.


          • Anonymous says:

            Dope smokers are almost as boring as people who constantly fiddle with their phones but are slightly higher up the scale of loserism.


          • It is a great shame when you witness someone trying to be someone else. Or in my case, sometwo else. :-)

            We are all so individual: our finger prints, our irises, our DNA. Our personalities, our thinking processes and our writing styles are even more subtle manifestations of this. The levels of optimism and jealousy are so easy to spot in others.

            Rejoice in who you are. Not in who you want to try to be. Or even in someone that you have taken an inexplicable antipathy to.


          • Rejoicer says:

            Is that the real SC?


        • 97
          Toothsayer says:

          The cry of a jotted female impersonator:

          Ewa (or Bob from Pinner to those who know). Was kicked off the Telegraph.


      • 155
        David says:

        Do the Lib Dems really give a damn about drug policy though? Or was Nick Clegg just seeking find something to define his party as different or trying to con the young students into voting Lib Dem again.

        Remember what Labour did with drug policy. Class C then back again, that was all just politics and political posturing. David Cameron is the same, he voted against his party when he was part of a select committee and now he is leader of the Tories he has different policies.

        It’s all just a game to them. And the Lib Dems are no different.


    • 28
      graham smith says:

      There is a bit of dishonesty going on in the cannabusiness………..



    • 42
      Popeye says:

      So you need drugs to party, you sad sack.
      If you can’t party without a chemical high you badly need to get a life.


    • 44
      Homosexual Dave says:

      Anyone who has lived in Jamaica knows that ganga results in yoofs lazying around, causing big trouble and ultimately a society in fear of crime that is out of control.

      Even worse it means Diane Abbott has declared England as her home.

      At a time when lefties want to ban sugar in drinks and butter on bread I find it odd that they want to scramble brains with drugs.


      • 62
        Old Age Pensioner now over 40% of UK population says:

        We have enough trouble with yoof lout and drunken louts without the added danger of druggie louts.


        • 106
          I hate foreigners says:


          Those in favour of legalising drugs will change their minds pretty f*cking quikly when the EU’s dregs move here to smoke their brains out and driver around off their heads.

          Not a big difference to the Poles I see every day on the M11, but a difference nonetheless.


      • 101
        Bert says:

        >scramble brains

        Absolutely right. THC fucks up your cortex, can lead to paranoid schizophrenia and God knows what else. Our rotund host is a living testament to the damage that drugs of all kinds will do.


    • 82
      feastonthis says:

      A big fat cock?


    • 83
      feastonthis says:

      We all know hat you like in your body Mr Kebab


    • 96
      Yeah right says:

      It’s not for the state to extort money from me then waste it on health services I barely use but instead keeping alive dickheads who spent their lives eating Macdonalds, drinking, smoking or dope… Oh hold on…


    • 102
      Mill says:

      The left are getting bent out of shape with the Pistorius case

      The fact is that whether the person behind the door is an 8 stone blonde model or a 20 stone masked geezer with an axe it is still murder to shoot them if there is no threat from them.

      Pistorius is no less guilty even if he thought there was an intruder behind the door.

      Shooting intruders in not a recrational sport


      • 147
        Anonymous says:

        Not here maybe but South Africa is just a teensie weensie bit lawless and human life is a cheap commodity there. Whilst I could argue we should make an exception on that basis, he’s still guilty as **ck.


    • 119
      Hypocrisy. says:

      you’d think with the history of youthful drug taking at cabinet level, the Govt would be well up for looking at the drug laws again. I wonder if that famous – but denied – video of a certain Mr Cameron lookalike off his box was at one of the raves Guido was involved in?


    • 121
      T'Old Fella says:

      H’mmm “It is not for the state to dictate to me what i put in my body.” I see that is up to you, but wouldn’t you like to rephrase that?


      • 148
        Anonymous says:

        Why should he, it’s Billy, the well known player of the pink oboe, he knows what he means and so do we.


    • 139
      Cut the Welfare says:


      I don’t care what you put into your body, as long as I don’t have to pay for it, and as long as I don’t have to pay for the consequences.

      If you can afford it out of income that YOU HAVE EARNED then do as you please.


  2. 2
    My Other Food Bank is Offshore says:

    Yet another topic which politicians are peculiarly incapable of discussing rationally. We need a system of referendums so that the public can decide issues like this.


    • 15
      Point of Information says:

      Do they just want certain relaxants legalized to help with gay marriage ?


    • 38
      Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

      I agree with you about referendums but would a No result to decriminalisation satisfy the druggies? I doubt it. If you give people enough drugs you may as well give them guns to shoot their wives and kids with as well.


    • 66
      Man at the back in the awful jumper - yes you sir says:

      Why a referendum on this issue in particular? In that case, every single issue should be decided by referendum. ow would you vote on the Disabled Persons Parking Badges Act? Or the Small Charitable Donations Act? Where’s the clamour for a say in the Civil Aviation Act? Why weren’t the public consulted on the Supply and Appropriation (Main Estimates) Act?
      Someone says ‘drugs’ and the great British blog-readers yelp ‘give us some now!’ And you wonder who’s to blame for horesemeat in our food…


      • 73
        My Other Food Bank is Offshore says:

        With modern technology, there is no reason why the public can’t be asked their opinions on a wide range of issues, including some of the ones you mention


        • 91
          Man at the back in the awful jumper - yes you sir says:

          And the point of ‘asking’ us is what, exactly? Surely not a single reader of this excellent blog believes for one single second that any politician/party would take even the smallest notice of the public’s opinion… Traffic Cones Hotline, anyone?


    • 124
      T'Old Fella says:

      To be honest I think it would save a lot of money (police, lawyers) and if it was sold in licenced premises and taxed and it would bring a lot of income to the exchequer, as long I do not have to inhale the stench coming from those smoking weed and stand next to someone who has smoked it (it remains on their clothes for ages). As long as those who use the drugs know the side effects of using such substances, any motor accidents, violence etc caused by users is treated the same as alcohol drinkers no excuses.


      • 141
        WoRaft ChiHUAHua says:

        What I want to know is when are they going to decriminalize tobacco so that the louts currently cluttering up the tow path can go back in the blinkin’ pub as nature intended (so long as it suits the landlord).


  3. 3
    Andrew Efiong says:

    I must say after a hard day in the office and once the kids have gone to bed, there’s nothing like a good one to unwind.


  4. 4
    No steps forward 100 steps back says:

    Never happen far too many people make a bloody good living out of that weed being illegal and I don’t mean the criminal fraternity, personally if you want to help dilute the gene pool a bit then use drugs.


    • 6
      8 Incher says:

      In my experience a bit of relaxation leads to more genetic exchange.


      • 67
        Man at the back in the awful jumper - yes you sir says:

        Relaxation may do – being semi-conscious on drugs won’t. That’s natural selection, see – idiots on drugs can’t reproduce.


        • 78
          Voltaire says:

          Same with booze. You can’t walk to the bed when you are legless.


          • Man at the back in the awful jumper - yes you sir says:

            What a quaint idea that reproduction only occurs in bed! Even here in the noble, ancient and tourist-infested city of Bath it occurs elsewhere, generally on Friday and Saturday nights in and around the streets – so I’m told…


          • Seeing Double says:

            That is mainly a visual effect. Very little actual procreation occurs.


  5. 5
    Tachybaptus says:

    Dave is resisting the British public in more and more ways. He will reap the consequences.


    • 7
      Spanghero says:

      Yes, they’ll soon vote Labour… and get state control over everything with Ed and his union stooges deciding what’s good for you.


    • 86
      Phil says:

      Says who exactly?
      Name the pollster, the question asked, how many in the sample, how broad a spectrum of the population is in the poll.
      I may be cynical but like many polls of recent years the answer is more often than not rigged to suit the vested interests funding it.


    • 127
      T'Old Fella says:

      Don’t forget Big Dave is expert at the U-turn manoeuver unrivalled by almost any PM in modern memory, Gideon acording to that photo Geedo posted, seems to have had more than a passing acquaintance with snow


  6. 8
    UKIP Control The Nation says:

    Vote UKIP as they will clamp down on this dangerous drug culture.


    • 61
      Anonymous says:

      I’d be all for banning mobile phones. I don’t see why I should be exposed to microwave radiation and disturbance just so some moron can loudly spout drivel. about inane crap.


    • 151
      JabbaTheCat says:

      There I was remembering UKIP touting themselves as libertarians, must be the last spliff affecting my memory…


  7. 10
    Stoned Owen Jones says:

    ** twitter feed quiet, clearly chillaxing with a fat one **


  8. 11
    Anonymous says:

    The best way to deal with drugs is, if you are caught with any you are locked up till you consume your batch, then you are free to go. People with a bit of weed will be inconvienced for half an hour, international criminals caught with a ton of H cut with rat poison they were trying to sell to kids will be shut away for years or die trying to get out early.


    • 103
      Bert says:

      Better still, make them consume their stash within 30 minutes.


    • 131
      T'Old Fella says:

      That could work but you don’t really think that would happen do you, most of the big trafficers are known to police and intelligence services (or at least they should know) so you have to ask yourself why nothing is done.


  9. 12
    Alex says:

    As a teacher who has worked with many kids that have become addicted to cannabis I dread the day it is decriminalised. Anyone who thinks its effects are benign, I promise you it has a devasting effect on the adolescent mind.


    • 36
      Ma­qboul says:

      The day it is decriminalised is the day the state starts taxing the stuff. Don’t worry luv, the kids will not be able to afford it.


      • 65
        bookie down the road. says:

        Silly billy, they will just turn to benefit fraud and other crimes to pay for their ganja as they do now, only more so.


      • 89
        Fatoldguy says:

        And if they cannot afford the state sponsored they will get the cheaper ‘illegal’ drug from their mate so the problem will not actually go away


    • 75
      bergen says:

      We are having to cope with far too many cases of cannabis-induced psychosis amongst late teens/early twenties who are then incapable afterwards of holding down a job . I know that the majority of users are unaffected but it’s too high a price to pay.


      • 115
        Anonymous says:

        Moron. Alcohol is worse. Much worse.


      • 128
        Had enough says:

        The rate of psychosis and schizophrenia have remained flat despite a massive increase in the last forty years of people smoking cannabis.
        Sorry to fart in your lift Bergen but the truth is rather different than your received narrative.


    • 81
      You only start learning anything useful after you leave says:

      As a person who endured many years of fake education at the hands of teachers addicted to power and silly pointless regulations, I shall ignore your exagerrations as being inherently unreliable. Less than 5% of the teaching ‘profession’ are credible.


  10. 13
    Not Blowing Whistles says:

    If the government can tax it and dispense it they would do.

    This totally goes against the anti smoking drive, and there are still issues with respect to D.U.I.

    I do not understand why Cannabis and Cocaine, particularly coca leaf more than the refined powder, are not decriminalized at least: They are not particularly addictive and have net health benefits.

    The opiates should remain illegal: Biologically addictive, see W!lliam S Burroughs for full qualified detail.

    Until distribution becomes economically preferable compared to the so called war on drugs there will be no real change in the war on drugs.


    • 37
      Omar O'Farell says:

      “The opiates should remain illegal:” – what’s wrong with consuming things that are biologically addictive you fascist c#nt?

      If the state can ‘celebrate’ me sticking a dick up my arse, then what’s wrong with the occasional toot?


    • 64
      Anonymous says:

      Nowdays cannabis is so strong that it has permanent effects. About half the people I know who smoked it regularly have become agoraphobic or have other mental disorders now.


      • 84
        Hercule Poirot says:

        They are not agraphobic. They are probably just avoiding you.

        Legalised cannabis could be sold in mild, medium and strong variaties, n’est-ce pas?


        • 146
          Anonymous says:

          Sorry, they have real mental disorders. Even the dope smokers who don’t have defined disorders act decidedly weirdly. In particular the older ones are most definitely “not all there”.


  11. 14
    Not Blowing Whistles says:

    Until distribution becomes economically preferable compared to the so called war on drugs there will be no real change in the war on drugs.


  12. 16
    Tosspot says:

    It do make my Old Dutch frisky.


  13. 17
    Casual Observer says:

    How does this square with continued attack on tobacco, and banning Frosties ?


  14. 20
    UK Watch says:

    This is great and all, but surely fixing the economy, holding the murderers on the NHS to account, exiting the EU are all slightly higher priority issues ?

    Even OJ Simpleton hasn’t gone quite this down market, yet.


  15. 21
    EU Funded Pro-EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP.


  16. 22
    Wise Words says:


    • 23
      EU Watch says:

      Cameron’s EU Cuts were not beef, but horsemeat:


      • 68
        Beefeater says:

        I note the French have given most of the license back to their company using horse meat as filler. Could it be that the French economy is in a worse state than their data states for them to do this?
        I can only hope other companies shun it and force it into liquidation


  17. 26
    graham smith says:

    There is a bit of dishonesty going on in the cannabusiness………..



  18. 31
    q says:

    Oscar Pistorius may have killed somebody – wall to wall coverage in the media

    NHS kills people – nothing happens

    government kills people – nothing happens

    Nobody guilty, nobody responsible -, nobody takes nay notice

    what a fucking shit country this has become


  19. 32
    Sir Mary Flappes says:

    As the German stoners say, ” Legal? Illegal? Scheiss Egal! “


  20. 33
    Eastleigh Watch says:

    ComRes Poll puts UKIP firmly in 3rd place if GE called:


    Lab: 36%
    Con: 31%
    UKIP: 14%
    Lib: 8%

    2,002 people taken over 13th-14th February 2013

    Apparently, in a question to measure relative strengths of Prime Ministers, Cameron came out 43% ahead of Brown.

    Out of the candidates for the four mainstream parties, UKIP are not looking to shabby at all.

    All the coverage of the LibLabCon has been somewhat negative.

    UKIP dropped out of MSM a bit, but only because of the bad publicity dominating the others, and perhaps the Beeboid strike.

    As PT Barnum reputedly once said, there is no such thing as bad publicity. However, for the Lib Dems Brehan’s obituary qualification may be pertinent.


  21. 34
    Mad Nad says:

    Is looking after a dog a good excuse for expenses irregularities ?


    She brought this on herself: Perhaps the voters should start making the connection though that MPs do so little in Parliament thanks to the EU that they can go on reality TV shows for a while without impacting their duties. Totally wrong message, but the truth.


  22. 41
    Lou Scannon says:

    Your figures regarding cannabis probably have marginally more legitimacy than Cameron’s on ‘gay marriage’, but that’s not saying much.
    In all likelihood relatively few people have an opinion at all regarding legalisation of the weed. I very much doubt if 53% of the population are explicitly in favour of such a move.
    Cameron is heavily into statistics abuse; it would be the height of folly for you to go down the same road.


  23. 43
    Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

    If you want horsemeat go and live in France. If you want drugs go and live in Portugal or Holland. If you want free money come and live in Britain.


  24. 48
    Mob Barley says:

    In English law Cannabis is an illegal substance. It is the street money of organized crime . Do not listen to left wing idlers saying it is a harmless recreational pursuit.

    The Police and Courts should remove their fingers from their backsides and start prosecuting.

    Either build five million new prison places or order five million electronic tags but please please do not sweep these evil weed under the carpet.


  25. 49
    Sugar is a class A drug in lefty land. says:

    So stupid. Cannabis encompasses a whole range of mind drug from happy to manic loon. Best to leave well alone. But as Dave now encourages men to stick their todgers into other men’s bottoms I’m not sure he will.

    All a bit odd though when fatbot wants to make sugar and sticky buns banned substances.


  26. 50
    Guido Loves a Laugh says:

    So rather than understand why individuals in a society seeks an ever wider and more potent range of harmful chemicals to alter their mental state of reality and perhaps change that social environment to a more healthy one we’d rather just make it legal and then let the public purse pick up the costs from the fall out? How very libertarian.


    • 133
      Point of Information says:

      Liberal, not libertarian.

      Libertarians would examine the moral consequence of government allowing the use of substances, and if there is a problem that would be the basis for banning.

      The situation you outline is a liberal socialists position.


  27. 52
    Fresh out of School Geology girl. says:

    This is cool. Working in Poundland I have to he stone cold sober but In the museum I can be stoned out cold.


  28. 53
    BBC News says:

    Let us hope Mrs Huhne walks free today. We need her to give in depth lefty reasoning as to why the EU and the BBC are good for mankind and luvvies in particular.


  29. 54
    Scrambled Brains and ruined lives. says:

    It’s the affects of drugs that are the concern to most. Not on the user but the way users adversely affect society.


  30. 56
    dogleg says:

    Decriminalising things often has unintended consequences. In 1967 in England and Wales the homosexual act between consenting adults was decriminalised……and look where that’s got us all today.
    Why people need to bash their brains with drugs, for “recreation” is beyond my understanding. The problem lies in the fact that drug users then try to drag others into their habit, hence the uptake by vulnerable youngsters.
    Freedom of choice is one thing, but when it impacts negatively on others and their lives, then there’s something very wrong.


  31. 59
  32. 63
    albacore says:

    Conservative Dave don’t want things rearranged
    And most folks prefer not to have drug law changed
    Oh Lor! Could owt give you a bigger fright
    Than to find that, for once, Dave got it right?



  33. 69
    ████ ' changed my tune ' Hoon says:

    Liberal ? Democratic ???? Hahahaha


  34. 77
    Calamity Clegg says:

    LibDems two-faced ?? Who’d have thunk it ???


    • 126
      Anonymous says:

      With news that the Tories are considering changing planning laws to remove the centuries old “right to light” , I think we really know who’s the builders’ bitch.


  35. 87
    feastonthis says:

    Ban steroids
    Then we get lots more Boer models with big breasts


  36. 88
    feastonthis says:

    FabbriHunt you wear a Mirkin upon your chrome dome
    Do you really face both ways, or just on all fours?


  37. 94
    Another legend gone says:

    Derek Batey, host of ITV gameshow Mr & Mrs in the 1970s and 1980s, has died at the age of 84, his former employers at ITV Border Television have announced.


    • 108
      The headline we can't wait to see says:

      David Cameron, the toffee-nosed imbecile who destroyed England and the Conservative Party, died this morning after a long battle with 398 different forms of cancer, all of which were excruciatingly painful.


    • 110
      Bert says:

      I remember him well, the oily little creep.


  38. 95
    Earl of Croydon says:

    Im looking forward to the spongers (those on the dole) demanding greater dole money to feed their drug habbit.
    Im sure many a liberal will agree that it is their human right to be able to “enjoy” their weed.


  39. 98
    Owin Jones says:

    So is David Miliband in the pay of the UAE dictatorship? Not whataboutery, genuine question


  40. 104
  41. 116

    brain development completes at the age of 22. people over the age of 22 should be able to pay to attend a drugs education course (covering all types deemed illicit plus alcohol and tobacco) at the end of which they sit a exam. if they pass said exam they get a certificate which enables them to see their gp who then checks their physical and mental health. if found to be in good mental and physical health the doctor issues said applicant with a cannabis procurement licence. the rules of which are thus. it can be used to procure a maximum one ounce of cannabis a month from licenced sellers. the licence holder can only use it in the company of other licence holders. any licence holders found using or selling or sharing cannabis with none licence holders have their licence revoked (at the very least). simples. no more “cannabis is a gateway to other drugs”… cannabis is all people need.

    *this suggestion is brought to you by kofi annan and was not sanctioned by the alcohol or oil lobby.


    • 125
      Anonymous says:

      Cannabis is a gateway to nicotine.


    • 132
      Had enough says:

      Or how about the current scenario in which I ring up my dealer and ask for an ounce and he drops it off within an hour. None of us giving a fig about your vision of an authoritarian nightmare to get a smoke.


  42. 118
    Taxfodder says:

    Many years ago (50) I too went on a fact finding mission to Amsterdam..

    My recollections are that the mission programme rapidly became “off mission” indeed I never actually found the hotel room I had previously booked let alone managed to sleep in it.

    I returned home penniless a missing wristwatch, wallet (no socks??) and a realization that absolutely no facts at all were gathered other than going there makes you feel quite unwell.

    Sadly my mission was not government funded but I can confirm finding facts in Amsterdam ain’t that easy….


  43. 122
    keredybretsa says:

    OK: So it’s my body and I can fill it with all the junk food, ciggies, alcohol, horse meat,pills, drugs et. etc. But when it all goes pear shaped who picks up the tabs. Those who don’t over indulge and pay their taxes.


  44. 137
    mkkddd says:

    Prohibition is an extension of slavery. You could also say, ‘all of this ‘war-on-drugs’ nonsense is just a smokescreen for the Abrahamic religions’ ongoing repression of gnosis,’ but not a lot of people would understand that, and far fewer would like to understand it than would like to hurt you for trying to help anyone understand it or for understanding it yourself, so probably better just to keep quiet (for the time being).


  45. 138
    In your dreams says:

    A majority might well vote for free booze but that doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.


  46. 140
    Jon Luisada says:

    No point decriminalising the consumption of it if you don’t then formalise and legalise the supply side of it.

    Otherwise you keep the criminal organisations in the money while not arresting the users any more….which they don’t do often now anyway so it has already been de facto legalised anyway.

    But we gain no revenue and keep the expense of policing the supply side.

    Only a bloody politician could make such a dog’s breakfast out of a commercial possibility.


  47. 144
    Nonny Mouse says:

    “Dave is resisting the British public’s freedom to party…”

    The real problem is that Dave is resisting the British public’s wishes on pretty much everything.


  48. 152
    Legal junkie says:

    It is somewhat ridiculous to have to use morphine based pain control drugs which have problematic side effects and which ultimately leads to addiction; when there is an non addictive, less problematic alternative which can only be accessed illegally. Ridiculous.


  49. 154
    Terry says:

    Cannabis has de facto been legalised – the worst you get will be a cannabis warning.


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