December 14th, 2012

Moran Given Two-Year Treatment Order

Expenses cheat Margaret Moran was “too depressed” to attend court to hear her sentence this morning, but she faces a two-year supervision and treatment order as ‘punishment’ for her £53,000 swindle. This expenses piggie was found to have committed 15 counts of false accounting. The judge says some will say “she got away with it”Moran isn’t the first expenses cheat to dodge jail, and she won’t be the last…


  1. 1
    Kebab Time says:

    Its not cricket!

    One rule for them etc….

  2. 2
    Weybridgeman says:

    Too ‘depressed’ to attend court. Not too ‘depressed’ to hop on a plane to her holiday hidey hole in Granada.


  3. 3
    Kebab Time's F5 Key says:


  4. 4
    David L says:

    Too depressed to go to prison, eh?. Like the man who murdered his parents, and then asked the Court to show clemency on the grounds that he was an orphan.

  5. 5
    Tuscan Tony says:

    She looked especially depressed in that pic taken recently of her and hubbie walking from an agreeable pub lunch.}}Still for every cloud there’s a silver lining: a nice “get out of jail free card” precedent has been set for all transgressors in future.

    So well done Margaret and her legal team.

  6. 6
    Hank the Cat says:

    You do not understand she is an MP, being an MP comes with certain privleges
    such as thieving and troughing

  7. 7
  8. 8
    No kidding Sherlock says:

    The judge says some will say “she got away with it”. He’s not wrong.

  9. 9
    Duty Pedant says:

    Kebab Time is a F5 key?

  10. 10
    anonymous says:

    my arse!

  11. 11
    the pigs trough says:

    is she still an MP?

  12. 12
    Rouseau says:

    So the public will just have to take the law back into their own hands. Is that the message the judge really wishes to send?

  13. 13
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    No justice.

  14. 14
    Clark Brodie says:

    I always thought Supervision Orders were given to teenagers .

    Just because tax cheats have dodged jail in the past I do not see why it should follow that this will be the case in the future especially now we have Theresa May and Chris Grayling on the job

  15. 15
    Equal Justice for All says:

    Osama Bin Laden was pretty depressed at being ambushed by a SEAL team – should they have let him off?

    Good job a UK judge wasn’t involved!

  16. 16
    Ed Millibland says:

    Love thy neighbour

  17. 17
    Ex Voter says:

    The judge may say “some”, I’d say he’d be hard pressed to find any who didn’t think she’d got away with it.

    For the record this was my MP as well. Hence my “nom de plume” on here

  18. 18
    Margaret Moran says:

    Prison is for little people.

  19. 19
    Dan Saffend says:

    They say “A precedent embalms a principle”. Depression, it would appear, is a rather good ‘Stay Out Of Court and Jail” card.

  20. 20
    A Little Person says:

    Bring back the stocks

  21. 21
    EdMiliband says:

    I will appoint her Minister for Dry Rot in the forthcoming election landslide

  22. 22
    Anonymous says:

    It will be used again and again you can bet.

  23. 23
    Mornington Crescent says:

    This statement is also available in Polish, Hindi, Gujurati, Somali, Arabic, Chinese and Tagalog. If you disagree, you’re a waycist.

  24. 24
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Has she been asked to pay back her ill-gotten gains? As she hasn’t actually been convicted of any offence, I fear the answer is no…

  25. 25
    Maria Miller says:

    This just makes me really, really depressed

  26. 26
    Iris says:

    but will she get to meet the Queen when she recovers?

  27. 27
    A Little Person says:

    If only Max Clifford were around to pursuade me she’s really the victim in all this.

  28. 28
    Good old days says:

  29. 29
    Spank Sinatra says:

    I’d be fascinated to learn how many cases of petty theft such as nicking a tin of beans or rubber chicken from Tesco to have food on the table get dealt with on a similar basis and similar leniency. This was not petty theft. It was deliberate and calculated from the start. May she hang her head in shame.

  30. 30
    Good Queen Bess says:

    I don’t have much time for hob-knobbing with loonies. Not if they aren’t relations.

  31. 31
    EdMiliband says:

    Has she smashed up any restaurants recently? She just doesn’t geddit. We need an enquiry. Wunashun. Tax cut for millionaires.

  32. 32
    Thomas says:

    Now all the rioters have a get out of jail free card.

    They have probably suffered more in their lives than she has.

    Does she get to keep her pension?

  33. 33
    Kebabs Я Us says:

    He mustn’t have a job

  34. 34
    Judge Dreadful says:

    I’d reckon that most ‘spur of the moment’ shoplifting by middle aged women who are depressed is dealt with quite compassionately. However, as you say, this was systematic and calculated, carried out by someone in a position of public trust and special authority. There is no comparison really.

  35. 35
    Tom Catesby says:

    Moran case…..Are there no hospital wings in prisons these days?

  36. 36
    Kebabs Я Us says:

    Nig Nog eh? Nowadays you’re not even allowed to think it!

  37. 37
    tweet tweet says:

    I see reddy eddy is talking today about immigration, shame Labour didn’t talk to the country about it when they secretly filled it with more people, the delight is these people will want to go there own way and not follow Labours path to enlightenment and will want to be MPs and Councillors for their own groups , even for the BBC it will have to have multi channels for all these groups, the elite lefty Liberalism won and will fall by the wayside, welcome to Britain people, benefits forms and cash just over there.

  38. 38
    Kebabs Я Us says:

    Pensioned off perhaps?

  39. 39
    Polly Tuscany says:

    Perhaps the poor abused darling would like a break in Italy. My dear friend Silvio Berlusconi could invite her to a bunga-bunga party to cheer her up and explain how to be really corrupt and I can give her the lowdown on tax avoidance.

  40. 40
    Tom Catesby says:

    I wonder if Moran will recover as miraculously and quickly as the very naughty chap did in the Guinness affair some years ago?

  41. 41
    Caledonian Road says:

    Apparently not. None of the people currently behind bars is depressed. The facilties, after all, are far better than they can aspire to on the outside unless they have considerable earning power generating discretionary income. The gym and heated indoor swimming pool at Holloway is clean and not overcrowded at all, the hairdressers have a happy and regulat clientelle and the library is stocked with books in many languages. There is a healthy diet and the rooms are cosy and warm. Drugs are readily available. What’s not to like?

  42. 42
    Send her to the Ukranian parliament says:

  43. 43
    Sally Bercow says:

    The Judge is a fuckwit. No surprise there then.

  44. 44
    Hank the Cat says:

    BBC told to put more gay presenters on children’s TV to ‘familiarise’ youngsters with different sexualities

    They really cannot help themselves talk about sexualities and they think of kids

  45. 45
    Kettle, Pot, Black says:

  46. 46
  47. 47
    He who no longer posts says:

    Margaret Moran is a fat, ugly, criminal, swindling, can dodging, hypocrite who cheats to avoid punishment (wish I could think of a good word to describe that – someone?)

    I cannot envisage a more effective method of birth control than to ponder her ghastly visage on pictures such as the one above.

    If she were the only woman left in the world, I would cut my own cock off in desperation rather than consider any other strategy.

    It is with hearty hope that I wish that life will deal her her own special reward which will be long and painful and at least as unpleasant to her as she has been to us and her constituents who were unwise enough to elect her.

    That is not libel – it is fact.

  48. 48
    The taxpayer says:

    That’s quite a claim you are making, Diane. Did you keep the receipts?

  49. 49
    Anonymous says:

    Dont be rediculous, the only reason you need to steal food today(with a family of 4 getting at least £1,500 a month in benefits) is if they have peed it up the wall!

  50. 50
    I think Our judges are wonderful says:

    Isn’t English justice wonderful? Aren’t you glad that despite everything, true wisdom, impartiality and fairness resides in our wonderful judges?
    It makes my heart glad, that whenever a criminal is brought before the courts and after due process is found guilty, the judge will always give the sentence the crime deserves, so that everyone can see justice has been done.
    Today should be a day of great rejoicing citizens!

  51. 51
    A Doktor says:


  52. 52
    Justice Fingers says:

    90 days inside for you my lad.

  53. 53
    Anonymous says:

    You try nicking 35 grand and pleading depression and see where it gets you.
    This is simply disgusting. What a country. What a parliament. These two cesspits are the real causes of depression.
    Will she pay back the loot?
    Sorry about the question mark, I’m afraid I’m just being ridiculous.

  54. 54
    Dai says:

    Happy days…..

  55. 55
    Doctor for sale says:


  56. 56
    Hollande says:

    Zut alors what is all this mierde about Yorkshire being in the Tour De France !!

    Do they have a 75% tax rate?

  57. 57
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Fair do’s. What’s sauce for the Sanders is sauce for the Moran

  58. 58
    If she was a bloke says:

  59. 59
    The taxpayer says:

    Why are there no minimum sentences for crimes committed by MPs? We have them for people carrying knives.

  60. 60
    The taxpayer says:

    Is it rude to ask which party was in power when this judge was appointed to the bench?

  61. 61
    Moby Dick says:

    It’s a funny old world

  62. 62
    Diane Fatbutt says:


  63. 63
    Margaret Moron says:

    That rules me out. Boo hoo.

  64. 64
    Will Selfcentred says:

    yeah drugs man, no-one knows about drugs except for me. I am an authority on them. Everyone who doesnt agree with me is a racist and a homophobe too.

  65. 65
    Captain Oveur says:

    “Have you ever seen a grown man naked?”

  66. 66
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    So, the Judge says “Some people will say she got away with it”.

    No shit!

    Everyone will say she got away with it – except all the other MP’s!

  67. 67
    Ed's policy planning committee says:

    1 Condemn the Tories for daring to talk about the issue
    2 See that the country agrees with steps to restrict immigration
    3 Better jump on the bandwagon

  68. 68
    Cat Funt says:

    She got a superb grasp of the English language.

  69. 69
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    “Does she get to keep her pension?”

    What do you think?

    MP’s are the new mafia, at least with the old mafia, you did actually get protection for their extortion.

    With the new lot, you just get the extortion.

  70. 70
    Cat Funt says:

    With a face like that, hasn’t she suffered enough?

    I wish Guido had put a piggy nose on that photo of her.

  71. 71
    He who no longer posts says:


    650 v 66,100,000.

    Oh! Guess what? No contest! The 650 win…

  72. 72
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Aren’t there enough of them on there already? The place is crawling with them.

  73. 73
    and I dont mean the speaker says:

    Get an arrow pointing at your arsehole saying ‘insert here’

  74. 74
    He who no longer posts says:

    Mmmm. No, not yet – to your question.

    Maybe he’ll read you comment and make the necessary adjustment?

  75. 75
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Oh, I expect she will – and she’ll keep her job as well. They don’t give out Two Year Treatment Orders for nothing, you know.

  76. 76
    Moby Dick says:

    I think the justice system of England needs a treatment order

  77. 77
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Most of the pensioners I know would be very glad to have the sort of care, attention, and money which is lavished on our prisoners.

  78. 78
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    It should say “Warning – contents liable to offend”.

  79. 79
    Anonymous says:

    What a fucking joke. This troughing thieving bitch suddenly goes mental and she gets away with fucking us again. Is the grabbing cow going to have to re-pay the cash? Don’t hold your breath.

  80. 80
    Popeye says:

    How about the Government making a new Quango with me in the chair and a committee of my selection from all walks of life, providing they work and pay taxes.
    We could be called the independent peoples watchdogs to peruse Parliamentary expenses.
    We don’t need a judge to oversee it, common law will do the rest.

  81. 81
    This is what a corrupted system looks like says:

    So we now have “The Moran Defence” officially added to case law. Let’s just see how many other felons will be accorded this get out of jail card.

  82. 82
    NE Frontiersman says:

    Can someone please explain how Peter Sutcliffe was fit to stand trial, but Margaret Moran wasn’t?
    Defendants who are unfit to plead at the point of trial normally have a ‘Not Guilty’ plea entered on their behalf, and the trial proceeds.
    Unlike Sutcliffe, nobody is claiming that she was not in control of her actions when she committed her crimes.

    Please, please explain.

  83. 83
    Suicide Recommended says:

    At least the other MPs had the tiny brass balls to face up to their crimes. This greedy coward is trying to hide behind depression.

  84. 84
    Taxfodder says:

    Another utterly disgraceful saga that highligths the travesty that is called British Justice.

    I cannot for the life on me see why anybody should bother to observe British Laws, clearly those that do must be “thick as a plank”

    The great lie is that crime does not pay…….

    Game on methinks!

  85. 85
    Norfolk's Finest says:

    How does depression free you from the ability to tell right from wrong?!

    What an absolute travesty.

  86. 86
    It looks like rain.. says:

    I work on the assumption that all presenters are Gay, I’m sure there are one or two exceptions but by and large….

  87. 87
    East India Company Wallah says:

    Ask john if he would like stirrups or a stepladder on the inner calves

  88. 88
    Who says:

    From the BBC website:

    “(Moran) was found to have falsely claimed around £60,000 in parliamentary expenses between 2004 and 2008, of which she received £53,000.

    Her claims were the largest amount uncovered in the wake of the MPs’ expenses scandal.”

    Did I read somewhere that Miller has claimed £93,000?

  89. 89
    Dick the Butcher says:

    Don’t forget, she had a team of pettifogging mountebanks behind her who will be congratulating one another on a right result.
    Hang all the lawyers.

  90. 90
    I am continually in contempt of our courts says:

    Unless the accused is an MP it will be rejected again and again.

  91. 91
    Mike Hunt says:

    Ex MP, thank goodness.

  92. 92
    Mike Hunt says:

    I’ll have half.

  93. 93
    Bollocks to Getting a Pseudonym says:

    I bet the lunch didn’t find the Morans agreeable.

  94. 94
    Margaret Moran says:

    Hola! from sunny Spain. Eat shit, mugs.

  95. 95
    Bollocks to Getting a Pseudonym says:

    People who only talk about themselves, eh?

  96. 96
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    The fat thieving bitch should be in prison. This is clearly a put up job.

  97. 97
    Mike Hunt says:

    Rinse and repeat.

  98. 98
    Mike Hunt says:

    Would love to see that Bollox creature getting his face filled in. I can think of no one more deserving.

  99. 99
    Bollocks to Getting a Pseudonym says:

    Is the judge in the same golf club or Masonic lodge as Moran’s husband?

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  101. 101
    The Dirty Rat says:

    I hope the fat thieving bitch chokes on her Christmas pudding.

  102. 102
    Huhne says:

    Not at all, it’s morally correct.

  103. 103
    Vazoline says:

    I give my wholehearted support to Margaret. I will arrange a photo-opportunity to show us hugging each other.

  104. 104
    Anonymous says:

    Baroness Udin £250k+.

  105. 105
    Hugh Janus says:

    Pretty depressing for the rest of us, isn’t it?

  106. 106
    Hugh Janus says:

    There’s not an awful lot to look forward to in the new year, but I’m happy to make an exception in the case of Huhne’s trial. Oh yes, just bring it on….

  107. 107
    Ben Dover says:

    “What’s not to like?”

    The showers?

  108. 108
    left wing,right wing, it's all the same bird! says:

    With everything being re-branded,
    Recession=Economic downturn
    Printing money=Quantative easing Etc etc etc

    Can WE re-brand something please?

    Tax = Protection money

    Everything they (the political classes) do is comparable to any “Gangstas” you care to remember.

    secret dodgy deals selling out each other and all of us, Wars over “Turf (Sand)” Drugs and Arms, whist of course enriching themselves and their (crime) Families.

  109. 109
    Central Office stooge says:

    Dave has arranged a fixed tariff of five years. Troughing.

  110. 110
    C.unts In Wigs says:

    You can always rely on us!

  111. 111
    Lionel Hutz says:

    And I, for one, advocate that.

  112. 112
    left wing,right wing, it's all the same bird! says:

    maybe <10% population Gay, many % (comparably) Tv "personalities" Gay?

    Have no issues with Gayers

    have issue with Gayification of tv!


  113. 113
    A gentleman of the jury says:

    If the judge thinks “some may think she got away with it”, wtf did he not just throw the book at her. We need to do something about our wimpish judiciary. They need to get a kick up the whatsits and grow a bloody spine.

  114. 114
    A gentleman of the jury says:

    Better still if we had no judiciary. Just look at some of the crap they have come up with in the past few months. They get worse by the day.

  115. 115
    A gentleman of the jury says:

    … despite the fact that we have Tess and Chris on the job.

    There fixed it for you.

  116. 116
    A gentleman of the jury says:

    .. then we can all have shares in chucking the tomatoes at them!

  117. 117
    A gentleman of the jury says:

    Tell ‘em to chuck a brick at the next police person they see. Should be good for at least a three month stretch – at least until the warmer weather arrives.

  118. 118
    A gentleman of the jury says:

    One of slotgob’s mates perchance?

  119. 119
    Rufus Stone says:

    Try not paying your road task using the defence of being depressed by the state of the roads, or the telly tax ‘cos the shitty output is so depressing.

  120. 120
    Umm Agoolies says:

    .. and their persistent unrelenting ‘in yer face’ attitude to everybody else. Perhaps we need to import a few Iranians after all (along with their beautiful cranes).

  121. 121
    Rufus Stone says:

    Of course she was off her trolley when committing fraud – she was a Labour MP for God’s sake.

  122. 122
    Umm Agoolies says:

    Suitable word? MP do?

  123. 123
    Gentleman of the Jury says:

    I think I read somewhere that ALL Judges are appointed from the same set of Legal Chambers in the City.

    Now who can confirm that? We might get a few answers to our queries then.

  124. 124
    Gentleman of the Jury says:

    Invest in piano wire futures.

  125. 125
    Gentleman of the Jury says:

    Have you joined Old Holborn’s campaign to bring it all down?

  126. 126
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    I hope you are not referring to me when you intimate that politicians are involved with organised crime to enrich themselves. Boaz.

  127. 127
    Alf Garnett says:

    As usual, the law makes itself a complete Ass.

    This criminal committed her swindles between 2004 and about 2008, and was clearly of sound criminal mind, albeit a crap forger of invoices. It would not appear that she was then depressed, and should thus be found guilty of the crimes she committed when not “swinging the lead”, as now.

    Her alleged state of mind at the time of trial and sentence (no doubt we shall see an Ernest Saunders/Lazarus miracle recovery after 2 years, if not sooner) is completely irrelevant to her guilt or innocence.

    At the end of this, we see that Mr. Justice Saunders is not in full possession of his faculties, and is as gullible and stupid as the day is long.

  128. 128
    Moran is a mentalist says:

    She gives people who suffer from genuine depression a bad name. The symptoms for depression do not include making false or fraudulent invoices for expenses claims. People with genuine depression can hardly be arsed buying a pint of milk, let alone masterminding faked claims for expenses. She used mental health to evade a jail sentence.

  129. 129
    keredybretsa says:

    One law for the dishonourables and one law for the rest.

  130. 130
    fitzfitz says:

    We presume that she will go to jail when she has … recovered. Just like Saunders of Guinness scandal fame. And the son .

  131. 131
    I'm not holding my breath says:

    So does she have to give us back the £53,000 back that she defrauded us of?

  132. 132
    golli says:

    Hang the moo

  133. 133
    Grant says:

    Boaz Handy.

  134. 134
    Justafaceinthecrowd says:

    Apparently the Crown is considering it…they had effing well do so from the thieving shi*te

  135. 135
    Moo Valongthare. says:

    Miller is next.

  136. 136
    Number 6 says:

    I am depressed reading about thieving fuck pig politicians. Can I now stay off work and get paid by the state?

  137. 137
    Rt. Hon Gideon Wallpaper MP says:

  138. 138
    Rt. Hon Gideon Wallpaper MP says:

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