December 7th, 2012

Full Statement from King Edward VII’s Hospital

It is with very deep sadness that we confirm the tragic death of a member of our nursing staff, Jacintha Saldanha. 

Jacintha has worked at the King Edward VII’s Hospital for more than four years. She was an excellent nurse and well-respected and popular with all of her colleagues. 

We can confirm that Jacintha was recently the victim of a hoax call to the hospital. The hospital had been supporting her throughout this difficult time. 

John Lofthouse, Chief Executive at King Edward VII’s Hospital, says: “Our thoughts and deepest sympathies at this time are with her family and friends. Everyone is shocked by the loss of a much loved and valued colleague.” 

Lord Glenarthur, Chairman of King Edward VII’s Hospital, says, “This is a tragic event. Jacintha was a first class nurse who cared diligently for hundreds of patients during her time with us. She will be greatly missed.”

UPDATE: St James’s Palace:

“Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are deeply saddened to learn of death of Jacintha Saldanha. Both their Royal Highnesses were looked after so wonderfully well by everyone at King Edward VII’s Hospital. Their thoughts and prayers with her family, friends and colleagues at this hard time.”


409 Comments

  1. 1
    Malthus says:

    First!

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    • 9
      You Did WHAT? says:

      “The hospital had been supporting her throughout this difficult time.”

      They’ve obviously added that line to stop speculation that she was given a bollocking which may have contributed to her mental state. Not sure I believe it though.

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      • 19
        Dr Foster went to Gloucester says:

        Neither do I. A person who was being supported properly by an employer made up of health professionals should not be killing herself over a radio prank.

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        • 23
          Legal Eagle says:

          Agreed – this is included in order to cover liability.

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          • Plato says:

            It may not be enough. Either she was supported or she wasn’t.

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          • It's alright, It's not my money says:

            We are all speculating about where the pressure came from, but I can imagine the obvious choices are:

            1) Pressure (bollocking) from the employer
            2) Pressure from the media circus, in continually broadcasting the clip and no doubt to subsequently reveal this poor unfortunate woman to the world

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          • Who Want's Some! says:

            Having done some work recently in the NHS I can only say that from the middle managers I saw in action there was little empathy for their staff when things went wrong. God knows what they would be like if you added the Royal factor and the media to the mix!

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          • Nom Dom Nom 2 says:

            They will have to demonstrate a duty of care not simply just say it.

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          • What's Left? says:

            Errr….hospital response apart….these Aussie numpties need to have their collars felt…..causing distress & possible actionable stupidity that led to security issues, costs & worse of all a death.

            Makes P Schofield’s little prank look pathetic.

            These a-holes need to know that there are consequences for tele status arrogance.

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          • Legal Eagle says:

            Agreed, the Hospital statement doesn’t absolve all liability, but they cannot really state any different without admitting liability.

            The Aussie ‘numpties’ have broken Australian law by performing an illegal intercept of the call, and then broadcasting it. They do not appear to have any legal responsibility for the nurses actions, unless it can be proven that they perhaps incited the suicide.

            Note: Foul play has not been completely ruled out yet. That will only be confirmed once the Coroner has issued the death certificate.

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        • 30
          Anonymous says:

          How on earth can you say that ? you know nothing about this at all. Please have some respect .

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          • Dr Foster went to Gloucester says:

            I have worked with health professionals. Most of them were entirely up their arses, and they were being managed by mongs.

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          • yeah, right... says:

            Quite a lot of references to the NHS disregard for it’s staff. May or may not be true but irrelevent in this isntance; the hospital is privately run.

            Kate may be common, but she’s not that common…

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          • Ivan Agenda says:

            Do not forget pressure from the palace. They have now issued TWO statements within 5 minutes, with the last stating that no pressure was applied on hospital or staff from them.
            Was their PR asleep for the first message?
            Now it states the nurse committed suicide – but nothing about a note.
            People will be running for cover but luckily for them it is now the weekend even in Australia – which reminds me. has Brian Cleverson been told.

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        • 140
          Mr Rotivator says:

          To use a cliche, straw and camel’s back come to mind

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      • 33
        Anonymous says:

        People do not commit suicide for a “bollocking”. Have you no idea how caring people feel. She worked in a hospital. Generally thought of as a building containing a concentrated amount of caring people.

        The basis of suicide is the inability to see an acceptable future. That future was removed by the media humiliation.

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        • 56
          Florence Nightingale is dead says:

          Have you been in a hospital lately, especially a geriatric ward? Caring people are very hard to find.

          Doctors do not care, they try to remain detatched for professional reasons. Nurses do not care anymore, they are medical technicians. The carers wear green uniforms and are run ragged as they are so thin on the ground.

          There are a few nurses who break the rules and do care but I have come across far too many who think caring is beneath their pay grade and status.

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          • Anonymous says:

            You are talking absolute rubbish, you have only been listening to some out of touch embittered types in the media with an axe to grind. Most people value the nhs, the staff do a great job in difficult circumstances. You should be very careful before you make stupid comments as is very unfair to try to score cheap points over people who cant defend themselves, i bet you have never done anything meaningful in your working life.

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          • Nogbad the Bad says:

            Please see Ann Clwyd.

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          • Florence Nightingale is dead says:

            No not rubbish at all. I am writing from personal experience.

            Doctors and nurses these days believe caring is not part of their job description. They consider themselves like lawyers and other professionals as detached from the patient.

            Caring is now delegated to green uniformed domestic staff. My dying mother was in absolute agony just for the want to clear her bowls (she would never shit her pit) but the doctors and nurses would not help her and insisted that this was the duty of the ward auxilary/carer. They have lost the plot, my mum just wanted to die in peace and not agony.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            She is a two-faced hypocrite – and I am being quite polite at that.

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          • Stop abuse of Liverpool death Pathway says:

            Good point, Florence. Consider also the complaints of abuse of the Liverpool Care (death) Pathway in the NHS too. Over 100,000 patients died on that death pathway last year. Complaints regarding this have been made not just by patients and their families but by consultants, learned professors and nurses working in the NHS.

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        • 71
          James says:

          All of us are speculating – there may have been some media harassment. It will come out. But my first reaction was also “what did her management say to her?”

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            “MANAGE-MENT” – have bog standard hymn sheets when the 5hit hits the fan.

            The pranksters – may well be ‘attacked’ by the press mob – who have ‘form’.

            Someone in the Management must have gone way over the top – in having a ‘word’ with the poor nurse – perhaps to satisfy some minor indignation raised by the minders of Kate & William.

            There are plenty of Corporate companies out there who when the Management lose it – cover up their faults right up through every tier. [e.g. Network Rail]

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          • Cinna says:

            This is a very sad turn of events.

            The fact remains that she broke rules of confidentiality that she must have been well aware of. Having done so then she must have expected a severe reprimand. Therefore it is premature to lay the blame on the hospital.

            Presumably she did what she did because she actually thought she was speaking to a member of the Royal Family. The onus therefore lies with the two arseholes who who thought they’d play a clever trick.

            There are far too many of that ilk currently.

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          • Nogbad the Bad says:

            She was an easy target. She is a nurse, does that mean she was trained to identify crank callers? There are many other more media savvy people who have been taken in by more obvious pranks (see Brass Eye cake). Unless someone in charge had said to her, ” we may get crank callers, to avoid this we have gone out and anonymously bought a PAYG mobile with cash and given the number to her husband alone, don’t put any other calls through ” then it is not the nurses fault.

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      • 66
        Fishy says:

        Why don’t you believe it? What information do you have to make such a judgement?

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        • 295
          Ivan Agenda says:

          The call was made at 05-30 hours UK time when the receptionist was not on duty.
          So the duty nurse took the call. Seems the hospitals security procedures were not upgraded to cover a celebrity intake.

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      • 327
        Can't pull the wool over my eyes, butty says:

        Management from that hospital should be thoroughly disgusted with themselves for this incredibly sad turns of events – what sensible common sense support did she get from these overpaid admin numbnutters? Scared for themselves?

        A thoroughly disturbing news it is. But it is the torys/coalition gevernmant after all, taking the winds from the sails of people at the sharp edge, and claiming it is their achievements.

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        • 339
          Nogbad the Bad says:

          Nothing to do with the Government. It is a private hospital.

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          • Can't pull the wool over my eyes, butty says:

            oh feck orf you naive ignorant tory stringed puppet hunt. think south yorkshire coppers you numbnut,

            Fiat Lux, 1984,

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          • Can't pull the wool over my eyes, butty says:

            yes, south yorkshire cops, hiding away retired in Hallam, protected by that coalition nonse, Clegg.

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    • 26
      stu says:

      The wonderful BBC – nonces and bullies. All of them

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      • 35
        Anonymous says:

        Why are the BBC involved ? i thought it was some moronic Oz station.

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        • 46
          Double standards says:

          Some of the loons here like to blame the bbc for everything, even though Sky also ran the story round the clock.

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          • They all sound the same says:

            Sky have just one loss making news channel with a small audience, which they provide to keep the regulators happy.

            The BBC on the other hand Broadcast news on all their radio channels and nearly all their TV channels.

            I first heard the report on PM and they seemed to find it funny that the nurse had fallen for such a poor voice immitation, not even taking into account that it was obvious from the clip that they transmitted that the nurse was obviously not English.

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        • 375
          These fruitbats have got blinkers on says:

          If they are programmed to blame the bbc for everything then that is all you can expect them to do,be fair they are only useful robots.

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    • 44
      The Gloating BBC says:

      The BBC made much ado about the aussie DJs having very bad English accents and how could someone fall for it.

      Well BBC, did it not even occur to you that the nurse was using english as a second language and would find it very difficult to detect a phoney english accent?

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    • 89
      Kent Imwell says:

      Lucky you for being the first on what is a tragic story. Distasteful and puerile.

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    • 130
      Tough at the top, or it should be. says:

      Well the hospital is obviously at fault here. Putting someone on reception to deal with calls from the outside world with English as a second language is bad enough during normal times. But when you have the future queen of England and her successor(s) in your care and the world’s press camped on your doorstep it is unforgivable. IMHO opinion the hospital management should have taken all the blame and the nurse made to feel it was not her fault in anyway.

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      • 147
        Mongwatch UK says:

        She wasn’t on reception. She answered the phone because it was 5:30 a.m. and there was nobody on reception.

        And you mean “in any way”. “Anyway” means something else. Ejukatiun…

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        • 185
          Mongwatch watcher says:

          Hospitals are a 24/7/365(6) concern. There will always be someone on reception and if the management have decided to save costs by delegating an on duty nurse to man the phones during her nightshift, then that is management’s responsibility not the nurse’s.

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          • Greedisgood says:

            We are here to make lotsa money,what do you think we are,the NHS? 24/7/365(6) That would not be profitable.And our shareholders would not stand for it.

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        • 312
          Anonymous says:

          I am surprised that security seems to have been so lax, i must admit. I would have thought her security people would have been there, as they would if she were at home. Surely the place was staked out by Royal Protection officers ?

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      • 160
        Anonymous says:

        And in my not so humble opinion the boss of the Oz station should take some serious action with the two pranksters involved.
        They are in the same league as the two pranksters that directed their “humour” at Sachs.

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    • 163
      Gooey Blob says:

      The BBC know from bitter experience that media pressure can cause people to commit suicide. Or do they believe Dr K’s walk in the woods was something else…?

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  2. 2
    Oh dear says:

    Very sad.

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    • 18
      nadia says:

      hope kate is ok. must be stressful being in early pregnancy and having your nurse hounded to death by the BBC. I think some respectful silence is due.

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      • 39
        Anonymous says:

        pathetic diversion.

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          Pundit too too says:

          Well it certainly takes the focus off the BBC and Savile, which they are hoping will soon be dead and buried.
          Hopefull Knacker of the Yard will be a calling soon for Xmas.

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        • 378
          Unbelievable says:

          Nadia, what an obsessive,fanatical comment,A woman has died and you try and make political capital out of it,you poor person,

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          • stu says:

            hounded to death by the Labour Party/BBC who have between them been r#ping tens of thousands of children over decades

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      • 389
        Anonymous says:

        your nurse?

        do you inside info?

        who is kate?
        someone who has no sense of decorum.
        is the monarchy sex mad?

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    • 20
      Anonymous says:

      yep.
      david k,e,l,l,y.

      …everyday every moment something bad is coming out….blame it on the mayans.
      did the australian pm make a hoax end of the world recording?

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    • 142
      Red Egg Millitit..... says:

      I suspect the hospital were going to discipline this woman, the two pranksters are primarily responsible for her state of mind and suicide.

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  3. 3
    Hmmm says:

    “The hospital had been supporting her throughout this difficult time” = Just been told that she was receiving her P45

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  4. 4
    Jeremy Beadle says:

    Down with this sort of thing.

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  5. 5
    Scrobs... says:

    Just too late.

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  6. 6
    Ed Balls and his exploding underpants says:

    Everyone knows I have a stammer, so my economic policies aren’t my fault.

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  7. 7
    Legal Landlord says:

    Very sad indeed and I hope the 2 DJ’s are pleased with how their prank turned out – to$$ers.

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    • 54
      Anonymous says:

      How can you be so insensitive as to blame the two hoaxers? We all had a good laugh. My feelings are that she was given a dressing down by the management. Perhaps staff should be given better training.ie. the telephonists who put the call through to the ward.

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      • 78
        Anonymous says:

        I dont think mostl people did “have a good laugh ” actually, broadcasting private info to the world about an ill pregnant woman is not usually considered hilarios, in normal circles. You are as deep as a puddle.

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      • 119
        Dave_is_so_bloody_weak says:

        That kind of prank alone would not make a normal person commit suicide. There must have been other contributing factors that we don’t know about.

        Blaming the Australian DJs for that poor woman’s death is ridiculous – what if the two also commit suicide as a result?

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      • 129
        ReefKnot says:

        How can you be so insensitive as to support the two hoaxers ? If you ‘all had a good laugh’ you are no better than they are. Their behaviour wasn’t clever or funny, it was pathetic – and now we find it may have contributed to this unfortunate woman’s suicide. They should be ashamed of themselves. And so should you.

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          Dave_is_so_bloody_weak says:

          I think you are jumping to conclusions without enough knowledge about the victim.

          Pity politicians don’t top themselves off when laughed at by the press. Or, perhaps, there should be a law prohibiting silly jokes and criticism.

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        • 158
          Gunga Din says:

          Well said REEFKNOT

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        • 193
          Lord Reith says:

          The wankers Ross and Brand thought they were hilarious too-unfortunately it didn’t harm their ‘careers’ very much.

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          • Anonymous says:

            difference,,,,a royal child.
            treat it with extreme care,
            this is the emotion that is now going to surgically manipulated.

            was is surgically created.
            when our media is under fire…public sympathy matters,,,,,deeply,
            who is being protected and why … we have now got as far as the royal inner circle.

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          • Anonymous says:

            will anyone talk about the anything is possible world of paedophilia.
            lets not forget savile and his boast about having unlimited freedom.

            the world of paedophilia resides in a parallel universe and they are always few steps ahead.

            when our sympathies are engineering that is social engineering. whilst all this is going on Lord Leveson’s Sentencing Council wants to normalise paedophila by making the circulation of child pornography non custodial.

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          • Anonymous says:

            the bridge between us and the hidden truth is the media.
            jimmy sovile was protected and the press ultimately exposed him.

            if the extreme friendliness between royal family and jimmy so vile is not to be exposed then the press has to be gagged. there is nothing wrong with friendliness so why this relentless pressure on the press, the net, and now the broadcast media coming to the fore too.

            royalty is protected but not…the net, the press and now the broadcast media. what a joke. if only it was. it is all about power and privilege, who has it and who is being denied.

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  8. 8
    Grown up says:

    So when are these dj’s going to be sacked? They are still tweeting about their school playground pranks. Sack them. Idiots.

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  9. 11
    Sack them says:

    Immature.

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  10. 13
    Anonymous says:

    Hospital confirm the nurse was victim of hoax call and say she was being supported – what exactly does that mean? It sounds menacing to me

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  11. 14
    Last Quango says:

    This is so incredibly sad. Poor lady and her family. No doubt the Duchess of Cambridge will feel awful too – all for a really crap immature programme.

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  12. 15
    Wendy says:

    She didn’t kill herself because she got ‘pranked’, her bosses would have come down on her like a ton of bricks and that’s what pushed her. Yeah yeah I’m sure the hospital ‘supported’ her after the prank, of course they did! What rubbish if they expect the public to buy that. Her seniors should be papping themselves!!

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    • 31
      Ydenw says:

      And the climate over here – particularly the serious sense of humour bypass that has occurred with respect to media in general – certainly wouldn’t have helped.

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        Pundit Too says:

        Oh I don’t know.
        If you listen to BBC “Last Words” programme on the obituaries of the recently dead; you will soon notice they all seem to be pillars of the community and role models everyones should follow; unless they are branded as right wing, then it takes a rather nasty turn.

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    • 34
      FFS you idiot says:

      So What you arse? she would have been happy as Larry (The Cat) if the Australian shits had not called in the first place. A bollocking was well deserved for being so easily duped and the very least to be expected in the circs but to repeat myself just in case you can’t work it out the cause of the problem lay in Australia.

      Of course she killed herself because she was ‘pranked’.

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      • 211
        Anonymous says:

        @ 34 states “~~she killed herself because she was ‘pranked’.”
        Plus after realising the situation her conscience ruled her.

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    • 53
      Anonymous says:

      To be fair, confidentiality is a major thing in Hospitals and i think it would be a diciplinary situation here. This would happen in all HNS or private Hospitals, we dont know if the poor girl had problema already.

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      • 138
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Because of the management structures – the management had to be seen to give someone a kick. As with other comments above – this whole episode stinks to high heaven – but to see the one-eyed mongs pointing ‘only’ at the original pranksters is the height of hypocrisy. How many other similar pranks have provide many with a good laugh in celebrity circles.

        Someone in the Management chain needs to eat a lot of humble pie.

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        • 165
          Anonymous says:

          orson welles war of the worlds may have been the biggest hoax.

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          • Anonymous says:

            hope we are not going to have a 3minute warning between now and the 21st.

            blair has set the scene with his 45minute warning,

            idiots the lot of them.

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          • Anonymous says:

            That also ended in deaths

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          • Anonymous says:

            were the deaths caused by a prank phone call?
            was one person isolated?

            we have no idea about the dots between the prank and the death and also the cause of death.

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          • Anonymous says:

            if orson welles hoax (on the bbc?) ended in deaths then why the australian pm make a prank, with the mayan prophesy in mind, recording of the end of the world?

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          • Anonymous says:

            is australia a land of prankasters or were these broadcasters encouraged to make their phone call. if so, who encouaged and why.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Rupert Murdoch has a lot to answer for in the decent of morality into the gutter.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            descent – for the grammar police.

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          • No grip, mate says:

            That wasn’t a hoax dummy. It was a radio play, but radio was very new than and not enough warning that it was just a play was given out to listeners. It was because there was insufficient advance notice that the general population (who had no other source of instant information/confirmation) panicked.

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          • No grip, mate says:

            * then (not than)

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          • Anonymous says:

            the public were duped.put yourself in the public’s shoes, pedant.

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    • 332
      Sid Viscous says:

      Read the transcript of the call (at the Yorkshire Post site if you want!) and see that a) Ms Saldanha seems to have merely passed the call through to another nurse who did the blabbing, and b) the “security” here was non-existent – the DJs couldn’t believe their luck at getting in so easily. Oh, and c) go compare with Chris Morris who started his radio show in 1994 and “perfected the spoof interview style that would become a central component of his Brass Eye programme. [...] Brass Eye became known for tricking celebrities and politicians into throwing support behind public awareness campaigns for made-up issues that were often absurd or surreal (such as a drug called cake and an elephant with its trunk stuck up its anus).” My, how we laughed – so where’s the difference? If the hospital can’t anticipate a few hoax calls and / or nutters turning up at the door then THEY are at fault, not this poor woman and her mouthy colleague.

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    • 333
      Displaced Brummie says:

      But Wendy what if they they were supportive of her? That might have made her feel worse.

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  13. 16
    Susanna says:

    A caring professional would be mortified to have allowed private information out like this.

    Has anyone got those bastards out of bed yet?

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  14. 22
    BBC = SCUM says:

    The BBC repeatedly played the first part of the call including the receptionist/nurse connecting the call. The BBC are finished, they are scum and share responsibility for her death.

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  15. 28
    Steve Miliband says:

    #royalprank going mad on twatter

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  16. 31
    Scamp The Excitable Dog says:

    Best to keep an open mind on this.
    Maybe ‘this’ was last in a long line of things that led to or maybe ‘that was directly responsible for this genuinely sad news.
    If the hospital were going to sack her, they should fess up to this fact for consumption, but alternatively, anyone saying the DJ’s are directly responsible are off their chump, see where this one ends up landing if that particular road is gone down with the terrain as rough as it is currently, think about what you’re calling for for just one second.

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    • 40
      FFS you idiot says:

      So it was a co-incidence then? seem my comment 34 above

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      • 94
        Scamp The Excitable Dog says:

        Of course it wasn’t a coincidence…But calm the fuck down and think straight, you’d have thought by what you’re saying those Aussies had flown over and put a bullet in her head on purpose.

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    • 111
      Anonymous says:

      You must have underlying mental health problems to think of topping yourself over something like this. She must have been very brittle and fragile.

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      • 148
        Who Want's Some! says:

        Not always the case by any means. If someone is suddenly subjected to public and private ridicule and then has their very livelihood put at risk at the same time it can make suicide an ‘option’ for people that appear stable. That this woman was a nurse means that her job may have had a greater weight to her overall sense of self-worth, put that in question and then anything unfortunately is possible. We can speculate as much as we like but the inquest will hopefully get to the truth and some justice.

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        • 166
          Not looking for scapegoats says:

          True – but she was married with children.

          Even if she was fired she could have found another job.

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          • Expat Geordie says:

            Depends. That isn’t an English name. Is it a European name? Is it from somewhere in the “3rd World? If she was here on a visa then the loss of her job could have resulted in her being sent home. Probably wouldn’t happen, but a “supporting” manager could let this slip whilst “supporting” (bollocking?) her and letting her know that the nature of the “offence” would mean that she would never work as a nurse again.

            Plenty of reasons there to tip someone over the edge, even if they were unlikely to happen.

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      • 169
        Anonymous says:

        david kelly?

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      • 207
        Anonymous says:

        was d.k.e.l.l.y fragile and brittle.

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  17. 36
    Their careers are over says:

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  18. 41
    gildedtumbril says:

    I blame Leveson.

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  19. 43
    If Labour were still in power says:

    Someone would have emailed “A good day to bury bad news” by now.

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  20. 50
    WastedJoker says:

    What if the DJ’s commit suicide because of Guido’s Killer Prank banner?

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  21. 51
    Ned Kelly says:

    The picture of the two Australian idiots at the top of this article says it all. “Look at me”. Shallow, insincere, unrepetant, and totally out for themselves. Both of them should be sacked. As for the poor nurse, I doubt very much that the hospital was that supportive. The King Edward VII Hospital has been used by the Royal Family for years. One would have assumed that they already had a system in place to deal with idiotic prank callers seeking personal information on royal patients. It is surprising therefore that the nurse in question was, seemingly, unaware of this.

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  22. 64
    Dial C for C*** says:

    On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the easiest you could have gotten off, I recon its a 10 if Prince Charles makes a gag out of it.

    The hospital must have come down hard on her. You wouldn’t get this in the NHS (although you would get MRSA).

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  23. 65
    Nom Dom Nom 2 says:

    Looks like their website has been taken down – http://www.hot30.com/

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  24. 70
    Gloone says:

    This is a sad, pointless event. Sometimes these things happen. Stop baying for blood like a bunch of savages, and just think of the Nurse.

    It wasn’t the fault of a crank call; that’s the height of absurdity. If it’s anybody’s fault, it’s the hospital management, for clearly having no proper procedure for checking the validity of calls. It’s not the media’s fault either; as far as I could tell, nobody was incensed. It was just one of these funny, odd stories. It’s just tragic that the Nurse took it so seriously when it wasn’t… I do wonder to what extent hospital management were responsible for her feeling that way, though.

    So sad.

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    • 79
      WastedJoker says:

      The reason she took it so seriously is purely down to media hysteria.

      Well, the Red Tops.

      Bet we find out she’d been doorstepped repeatedly.

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      • 98
        Gloone says:

        I didn’t see any media hysteria… but then again I didn’t see the print press yesterday. I learned about it from the BBC news site, and they weren’t being hysterical, they were just reporting the facts, which is what they’re supposed to do.

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        • 134
          Engineer says:

          The BBC only report ‘the facts’ when it suits them to do so, and in a manner that suits their agenda. Take climate change/global warming/whatever it’s called this week as a prime example.

          In this case, it suited the BBC to broadcast something that slightly embarrassed the royal family because, as we all know, the BBC is institutionally anti-royalist.

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          • Gloone says:

            Paranoid rubbish. This was reported by every major media outlet. Why have you singled the BBC out? And if they had neglected to report on it, they would have been failing in their duty as a news service, because lax security at the hospital of the royals is most certainly newsworthy.

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          • Engineer says:

            The Royals have been using that hospital for many years. Neither you nor I know what ‘security measures’ are in place for communication between hospital and family members.

            You can’t seriously be suggesting that the BBC has a royalist bias or is neutral on the matter, can you?

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          • Gloone says:

            What are you even talking about? A member of the public was able with ease to obtain personal information about an extremely high-profile Royal being treated there. This demonstrates that whatever the security measures are, they’re clearly lacking. This makes it a news story.

            I have heard just as many paranoid rants about the BBC being pro-royalist; funny how the BBC is always biased against exactly the positions that you hold, isn’t it..?

            Obviously they would have been negligent to fail to report on this. What’s your specific issue with the way that they did report on it? I don’t recall reading any rampant emotionalism; just the facts of the story. The same is true today.

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          • The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

            I agree Engineer,
            When the Beeb reported in the days before William & Kate’s wedding, it seems to have stimulated a lot of anti-monarchist comment from them. Maybe the Beeb really is populated by lefties and maybe their editorial policy is decided in desperately trendy wine bars in West London.

            At that time, on the Today programme, the Beeb gave airtime to Sue Townsend so that she could read out a sour diatribe about how she thought the Queen didn’t really work very hard. Miss Townsend is a famous writer so her views must be taken seriously. The Beeb didn’t invite a monarchist writer to give their view, did they?

            Then on the P.M. programme, in a piece about the royal wedding, the Beeb broadcast an e mail from a person who was planning an anti-royal wedding street party, complete with cardboard guillotine. Again, the BBC gave air time to someone who thought it is OK to solve a political disagreement with violent death. If they really want to see a head being chopped off it is still possible to find the video on the internet where a hostage is beheaded by extremists. I think that they should try watching that instead of promoting a sick fantasy.

            Then we had You and Yours which I thought was a consumer affairs programme but turned in to a party political broadcast for an organisation called Republic. Their head honcho Graham, or should that be Citizen, Smith was given lots of airtime by the Beeb to put forward what sounded like fairly lame reasons to change the constitutions of the UK. The discussion went on until he was asked how many members they had. He told the waiting millions that it was 14, 000 desperate to free the downtrodden peasants. To put it in perspective the Eddie Stobart lorry spotting club has 35,000 members. Did the BBC call on their spokesperson to give his views on the important issues of the day, in the interests of democracy?

            I think the BBC couldn’t wait to broadcast this hoax call as it was a golden opprtunity to cock a snook at “The Royals”. And, boy, we got it wall to wall. Sky did it but I expect nothing different from them, the Beeb should have been far more measured. But what do they care? A chance to take the piss out of the Monarchy which meant bollocks to the fact that it wasn’t just a royal but a young woman who was so ill that she had to be hospitalised. Bollocks to the rule that all medical information is confidential, whatever it is and whoever the patient is. Bollocks to the fact that when everything goes wrong, the wrong heads roll, those at the top walk away unscathed but those at the bottom, well………..

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          Pundit too too says:

          Yes, the BBC are reporting the facts as they find them, and repeatedly ad nauseum.

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          • Sydney Harberbrij says:

            Pundit possum, it is ad nause A m.

            Nauseum is what you get when walking bored stiff round a stuffy ill-ventilated museum. Hope that helps.

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      • 99
        Nom Dom Nom 2 says:

        Very good point

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      • 103
        Susanna says:

        And the BBC.

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    • 101
      Interested Public says:

      If she did take this so seriously – why did she take it this seriously.

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      • 250
        Anonymous says:

        no doubt a few layers before we get to the truth.

        the knee jerking into regulating the media commeth. Do not blag to get info on the secrets of society.

        there is a dark hand here. we are going to be squeezed by the sympathy button.

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  25. 73
    nutcase nurse says:

    if the spoilt Hunt had gone to the NHS then this would not have happened.

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    • 104
      Anonymous says:

      You really are an old softy arent you ? somebody has killed themseves and you make a crass remark like that.You moron.

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    • 240
      The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

      And if she had gone NHS you’d be screaming “Selfish royal denies hospital bed to dying poor person!!!”

      Get a grip, you dope. The woman was ill, she went to a hospital, has your self induced hatred of this person deprived you of any sort of humanity?

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    • 343
      Nogbad the Bad says:

      No, she would have caught MRSA and the Norovirus.

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  26. 77
    Rupert my Hero says:

    With such an important patient, no one seems to be asking the question, just why was she allowed to answer the phone in the first place, where was Kate’s security and what was the hospital doing allowing a nurse to answer outside calls. This stinks and it sounds as though someone is covering their back here, poor lady must have been under enormous pressure to take her own life…

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    • 128
      Rupert my Hero says:

      The Palace need to get to the bottom of why and who did what, otherwise Kate’s Baby will carry this stigma for the rest of its life, heads have to roll.

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    • 180
      Anonymous says:

      The question I would like answered is why a fully qualified nurse was left to perform as a receptionist in the middle of the night .

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  27. 84
    Well it's a thought says:

    I thought this was just a joke as I have only just come in, I turned on Sky sat and sadly it’s true, It’s a sad and a shock , what the hell happens now, it’s within the rules, lessons will be learn’t, we were 8 thousand miles away, just another suicide, poor woman.

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    • 136
      Hereward the wake says:

      It’s our neo-liberal ‘dumbed down’ world……..and the Ozzies must come top of the class where this is concerned.

      People have become stupid, vulgar and crass and show little or no respect towards others.

      A cheap prank that sadly has gone dreadfully wrong. If only idiots like the 2 DJs were a little more mature and educated, events like this wouldn’t happen.

      Reminds me a little of the prank played on Andrew Sachs by Jonathan Ross; same mentality.

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      • 176
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Do excuse me – but its a bit fucking wrong to be a “hypocritical know-fucking-all with hindsight” – “after the fucking event”.

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        • 202
          anon says:

          I think that you will find that there was quite a bit of reaction to the vile Ross baiting of Sachs – remind me when did that happen? I guess that was “after the fucking event’ as well

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            And noticably neither of them were done for ‘anti-semitism’ wonder why? – Because they worked for a ‘broadcasting’ media corporation – whereas old joe public … well enough said.

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        • 330
          Anonymous says:

          Dont hold back on the four letter words love, will you.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            it is an expression of anger and btw it is also COLLOQUIAL FUCKING ENGLISH AS WELL – you stiff upper lipped mong.

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  28. 85
    Jingle Balls says:

    Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuutttt, I must protest, people are trying to divert attention from the fact that the deficit is declining!

    Ddddddddddddooooooooooo, people not realise how long it took me and Gordon to carefully hand craft the plans, over many years for national bankrupcy.

    Iiiiiiiitttttttssss, aaaaaalllll, enough to make a bully boy like me feel suicidal.

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  29. 87
    Jack says:

    Nurses are the salt of the earth

    RIP Jacintha

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    • 191
      Ann Clywd MP says:

      Have you been to hospital lately?

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      • 230
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Ann C – has ignored many of her own constituents and their plight in her own back yard for almost 2 decades – yet when the issue affected her – she finally spoke out. Disgraceful bint.

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        • 302
          Expat Geordie says:

          Yes but at least someone senior HAS spoken out, at last. I was disciplined at work last year for saying that, and I quote verbatim, “the only way to sort out the NHS is to hang a few nurses”. Apparently one of the people on my so called “team” at the time is married to a nurse and might have taken offence if he had heard it.

          This person is Greek Cypriot, and surely I could take offence at having to work with him as my uncle was shot in the back by a Greek Cypriot whilst serving with the RAF in Cyprus in the 1950’s. (My uncle got lucky, the weapon misfired, or the powder was damp, or the round was hand loaded and didn’t have enough powder in it, and the bullet only went in about half an inch, but my claim to “offence” still stands.)

          My dad had major surgery, but nearly died from the lack of after care by nurses. My great aunt was allowed to dehydratre and starve in my local hospital, and wasn’t fed by nursing staff until she was transferred to the cottage hospital next door to die. My family experience of NHS/nurses neglect could fill a small book, but we have to worship at the temple of the “Angels” – nurses – and wo betide anyone who doesn’t.

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          Pundit too too says:

          I must admit that Ann Clywd gave a heartbreaking rendition on BBC radio 4 of how her husband was mistreated in hospital and “died like a battery hen”
          Then I stopped and thought, is this the same feisty Labour MP Ann Cywd who ranted and berated everyone including international development country advisors?
          And is this the same Welsh Labour MP who has a husband in a Welsh hospital while Labour is in power in Wales; yet they treat her so dismissively and not as an MP would expect?
          I wonder what she did to them for them to get their backs up?
          Will their side of the story will be covered up? Questions Questions.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            I decline to get as personal as expat did – however – there is documented evidence [not for here - but both Labour and the Tory parties have had it served] of Ann C’s despicable actions in doing nothing for her constituents for decades while she ‘gloried’ in her role as spokesperson re Baghdad Annie – A.N. Other jurisdiction while she ignored what was going on in her own back yard.

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  30. 87
    Over a Glass Darkly says:

    Awful. Time for sober reflection at Australian end. Statement of remorse awaited.

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  31. 90
    users says:

    Have Hacked Off been able to appropriate the poor girl’s name to their campaign yet?
    Shouldnt be long

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  32. 92
    Their careers are over says:

    They’ve both deleted their twitter accounts now.

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  33. 93
    A Silent Emission of Bowel Gas says:

    If the nurse had just been sacked and had not killed herself, would anyone have given a toss?

    Yet being sacked, basically for lack of linguistic perception, by a hospital who knew perfectly well they were employing a foreign nurse whose English was not perfect, would have been outrageous.

    She committed no medical error.

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    • 167
      anon says:

      What? of course she committed a gross breach of privacy and should have been disciplines and I would not have given a toss. That is not the point, she killed herself as a direct consequence of a ‘practical joke’.

      No “joke” no Breach
      No breach no talking to by mgt (if this indeed happened)
      No Joke no pointless death

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      • 186
        Not looking for scapegoats says:

        I don’t think this one did. If she was the one who picked up the phone, she was not the one who gave out the information. She did pass the call over though.

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      • 189
        Blowing Whistles says:

        So – does every Nurse (and member of the public for that matter) in the land need a one to one solicitor by their side at every moment of the day just in case they’re not au fait with the bleedin heart politically correct elf ‘ safety regulation crazy legal fraternity’s madness?

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          Interested Public says:

          No – but staff should be trained on security protocol and policy, and when breaches do occur like this the consequences should be clearly laid out.

          Social engineering attacks are quite common and usually one of the easiest to carry out: From this attack we have learned a lot about the lack of security surrounding the royals, or perhaps that security was relaxed.

          In all of this, that is actually a very big story.

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          • Anonymous says:

            who encouraged the broadcasters to make the prank phone call?

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Anonymous – your comment is one which leads away from the central subject matter – are you a distract merchant cum professionally paid troll?

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    • 192
      Anonymous says:

      nothing seems right in this story.

      i am sorry to say but it is d.a.v.i.d k.e.l.l.y mark II.
      we need to hear from the k.e.l.l.y family?
      only they know how it feels.

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  34. 97
    WastedJoker says:

    Daily Mail, Stay Classy:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244608/Jacintha-Saldanha-Excellent-nurse-took-Kate-Middleton-prank-phone-dead-suspected-suicide.html

    This is exactly the type of crap hysteria that built up pressure on this poor girl.

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    • 110
      Gloone says:

      My thoughts exactly. It’s appalling, they’re actually trying to use weasel words to paint the DJs as boasting about it after hearing about the death. Absurd and hysterical, and this coming from a paper whose vindictiveness is far more responsible for the mental state of the Nurse than a couple of DJs having a laugh. Sickening.

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    • 114
      Susanna says:

      And the BBC played a massive part – on all their news platforms.

      Are you saying that the DM has a further reach than the taxpayer funded BBC?

      Again, they failed minimum standards.

      They played the tape over & over again.

      Patten has to go – the BBC is out of control & he is not capable of getting a grip.

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      • 127
        Gloone says:

        Unless you have evidence to the contrary, the BBC just soberly reported the facts (and is still doing so today), rather than the vindictive, disinformative drivel the DM is putting out.

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      • 150
        IMHO says:

        You say Patten has to go?, I don’t think he is their anyway, certainly not at the BBC, just looks at his standing order cheque for £10,000 a month now and again.

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      • 162
        Ex-Tory says:

        70% of digested news in the UK emanates from the BBC. The Mail is read by 4% of the UK. Which is more powerful and influential?

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        • 173
          IMHO says:

          That would depend on your IQ.

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        • 281
          Anonymous says:

          public sympathy is where it is at.
          you can get away with murder when the public accepts.

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        • 319
          Pundit too too says:

          BBC get most news from other agencies including Reuters.
          What they do is hone it to suit their agenda with one dimensional news or even disinformation.
          Try complaining to them with facts on what really is happening and see how far you get. Pravda is rather jealous of them

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    • 196
      Gooey Blob says:

      The BBC and The Daily Mail are two cheeks of the same arse. One’s left-wing, one’s right wing. They both have an agenda and push it for all its worth.

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  35. 105
    Kent Imwell says:

    Have to say some of the people posting on this topic are just really out of order.

    You may think you’re being smart and funny, but I don’t. Feel free to slate me, but take a look in the mirror when you do so and feel proud of who you are and what you say.

    Over and out. Now taking the refund and fucking off.

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    • 151
      Robert Maxwell says:

      Oh get a life, not a refund!

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    • 255
      The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

      Kent, please try maintain correct R/T ettiquette. You never, ever say “Over & Out” it is the same as saying “Your turn to speak but I have stopped listening to you”. Which I think you will agree is a touch on the rude side.

      This is the Bottle Fed Triplet…Out.

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      • 321
        Pundit too too says:

        I once said “over and out” on a walkie talkie to some army wallahs and was lambasted by them, they stated only films and taxi drivers say that.

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  36. 107
    Dial C for C*** says:

    You can get good odds on the Royal Baby being named Jacintha. Not so good odds on Michael or Mel.

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  37. 108
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Not at all minimising the sadness of this woman’s death and the effect on her family by any means, and certainly our condolences go out to her family; all right, having said the obligatory prelims (a genuine emotion on my part nonetheless), there’s a gigantic elephant in the room here:

    What in the hell is a possible future Queen doing being in a hospital that could give out information on her simply because someone called on the phone and said “I’m family”? Believe me, this is a question someone will have to be called to account for; one would figure the Palace would have worked all that out– “If anyone calls, you tell ‘em to sod off! And that means ANYONE!” And you’d think, in the wake of the Leveson Report, a hospital would have told all their staff, including nurses with four years’ experience, “You know, the press are really devious and will resort to subterfuges to get info– DON’T repe*at DON’T give out information, especially on celebrity patients; anyone who NEEDS to know will have a way to find out that does not involve a phone call out of the clear blue sky!”

    Am I missing something here?

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    • 116
      Anonymous says:

      It just seems that standards have slipped at the Hospital.

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    • 155
      Interested Public says:

      Nope – you are bang on the money. Not that the nurse is to blame – but the hospital should be answering questions as to how they train their front end staff, and this was a clear social engineering attack. (Such attacks cost millions a year to people where used to facilitate fraud…)

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    • 287
      Anonymous says:

      .
      there are 2 strands here.

      1. as you say, why was the lady put in this position?
      2. bit darker this I am afraid…central to uk is the subject of paedophilia. Leveson is out to gag…he started with the press, he has now mentioned the net, and now this situation where the rest of the media is in the spotlight.

      is it true that what we want most is normally also tainted by what we find most distasteful. with that in mind, a royal child is a wonder…think fairy tale. vileness in the form of savile is also firmly attached to royalty. we need to step back and not respond in knee jerk. this may be difficult when we hear from Kate Middleton.

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  38. 115
    Chris Bryant says:

    THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! Leveson must be expanded to include foreign radio stations.

    Also, have you heard why she topped herself? She took a call, and the caller said the world was going to end on December 21st…

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    • 324
      Weathervane. says:

      A Good Day – as it is the end / start of an equinox and the wind direction on that day will inform us if we are going to have a very bad or quite mild winter.

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  39. 121
    Sue Brown says:

    What a couple of immature stunts. I doubt they have the decency or the maturity to resign. Get them sacked.

    The prank was not even a funny one. Just juvenile. They have caused so much distress to too many people. They cannot possibly stay in their jobs now. What a pair of inconsiderate, immature idiots. I hope they get sued.

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  40. 122
    MAX DICKHEAD says:

    There has to be a law broken here somewhere

    Obtaining confidential information by deception ?
    Data protection act ?

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    • 146
      Anonymous says:

      Australian law was broken by the failure of the callers to advise that the call was being recorded.

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      • 168
        Sir Clive woodward says:

        But they’re all criminals over there anyway!

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      • 205
        Blowing Whistles says:

        It is a fallacy that people have to inform that calls are being recorded.

        e.g. The banks regularly state that calls are recorded for ‘training purposes’ – but when there’s money to be had – they use ‘transcripts’ for their own ends. However when a smart customer records their calls “ALSO” – should the bank lie at a later date – hey presto – produce your own transcript.

        Been there done it – and beat the barstewards.

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        • 286
          Legal Eagle says:

          Check up on your Australian law – it is not a fallacy in that country.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            a. so you agree with my point on recording the banksters here in the UK then.
            b. Australian Law has been Kangaroo courted – just like in the UK.

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  41. 123
    Noel Edmunds says:

    Phew!…but for the the grace…

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  42. 124
    Fernando DLC says:

    It shouldn’t have been her carrying the can anyway. She was clearly not the right person for the job, whoever assigned her to the post should be the one getting roasted.

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  43. 125
    MAX DICKHEAD says:

    I cannot see them keeping their job over this , people surely won’t ever want to listen to these two idiots again
    Every time you hear their voices you’d just want to turn them off !

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  44. 126
    Sir William Waad says:

    Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we ought to shut up.

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  45. 131
    Spooks says:

    The sad death of this nurse was necessary for us to control the press.

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  46. 133
    WastedJoker says:

    The Aussie radio station is prepping a statement right now.

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  47. 139
    Beyond Leveson says:

    Take note Hugh Grant, Alan Partridge and Charlott Church. This is about a REAL victim of the press.

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  48. 143
    Arianna H's edible hamster says:

    Hey – it wasn’t just the BBC – we carried the story as well with embedded playback content !!!

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    • 178
      Operation Crossbow says:

      No but the BBC are paid for by a compulsory tax, the BBC have the biggest clout, the BBC could have simply ignored the story.

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      • 190
        Interested Public says:

        Indeed – and was their coverage really in the public interest and a legitimate use of license fee money ?

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      • 194
        Arianna H's edible hamster says:

        Yes – we know that. Just wanted to point out that we are following the same agenda. * scamper scamper scamper *

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  49. 153
    Anonymous says:

    Well we all know our Aussie chums have a great sense of humour – they must have because I just listened to them repeating the ‘prank call’ 5 mins ago. Perhaps they pre-record their shows or are just a bit behind the times

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  50. 159
    Election Watcher says:

    If the NHS is so good why do the Royal Family use private hospitals? Why should we pay ,through our taxes, for the Royal Family to use private hospitals when we can’t afford to use private hospitals ourselves?

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    • 174
      Ex-Tory says:

      They pay for it out of their own considerable wealth. Next.

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    • 183
      Engineer says:

      We don’t pay for the royals to use private hospitals. They pay for themselves out their own pockets. The Civil List pays for their constitutional duties; their private affairs are paid from their own incomes and savings.

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      • 214
        Blowing Whistles says:

        why the f do we give them around 50p per member of the public per year then?

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        • 264
          The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

          Dear me, Blowing Whistles, calm yourself!! That 50p pays for their constitutional duties and is agreed by Parliament (which I trust you take a part in electing on the basis of a thing called democracy). The Royals have their own money and they pay tax (more than Starbucks, I believe) so don’t give me the parasite line. They also allow the profits from the Crown Estates to be paid to the Treasury (£200million last year) in return for the Civil List (£60 million if I recall).

          The grumpy lefties like to pedal the “Royal parasite” line because, sadly, that’s what grumpy lefties do and they never let the facts get in the way of a good rant. If The Duchess goes in to a private hospital you don’t like it. If she went in to an NHS hospital you wouldn’t like it either. What has she ever done to upset you so much?

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          • The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

            Sorry!!!!!!! not “pedal” but “peddle”.

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          • Anonymous says:

            what is their duty?
            how much do get paid for it.

            a. are they required
            b. do we pay too much.
            c. what additional privileges come with the job.

            please would you provide job spec and t&c’s.
            can anyone apply for the job?

            it is a deeply undemocratic institution.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            And Charlie boy stands to make millions from coastal Wind Farms [The Crown Estate] – he stood up in Brussels and promoted the myth … and who pays – we do the taxpayer being bled dry.

            n.b. Earlier this year the GWarmists were screaming out about Droughts – they doom-mongered of the end of the world and then the rains came … – And it looks like Mother Nature is up to some corrective measures this winter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • 275
          Engineer says:

          Civil List – constitutional duties.

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  51. 164
    RIP says:

    So they never complained and the hospital fully supported the nurse? 48 hours later the mother of two kids kills herself. No doubt we will hear ‘stories’ of her being unstable months before……

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  52. 170
    Operation Crossbow says:

    As someone else pointed out our gutter media (especially the BBC) kept playing that bit of the tape over and over and over. AND I just wonder if any of the press were trying to find out who she was, or photographing her or calling her family.

    IF it turns out that is the case I want every journalist hung from a lamp post.

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    • 188
      Ex-Tory says:

      Yes, of course. Journalists should not be allowed to interview anyone until they have been given their Dr’s written consent, after applying for an public interview licence from the newly created Public Interview Protection Quango, headed by a Labour luvvie, with a salary of £500kpa at their Central London HQ housing 200 staff.

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    • 197
      Interested Public says:

      The deceased has been identified in the DM – but they stated very clearly that this was AFTER the family had been notified etc. Other than those who would have been close to the nurse in question recognizing her voice and people connected with the hospital who would have known, there was no other public identification so far as I can tell.

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      • 206
        Operation Crossbow says:

        It’s a non story why were hundreds of journalists and photographers standing around outside that hospital in the first place? Where was the story?

        I thought the press were going broke? Seems to me there were plenty of them probably on 50K a year standing around, especially BBC dross.

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        • 238
          Interested Public says:

          The story about the press coverage was most likely the story – that agenda is clear.

          Covering the pregnancy at this early stage is speculating on ghoulish outcomes only, and in any case full coverage in the first trimester is not smart. Extra stress for mum, and the probability of a bad outcome high, which is not in anyone’s interest.

          No one in media is blame free – however the shades of hypocrisy are quite impressive.

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    • 256
      adamdelved says:

      Unless you’re proposing to eat them, that should be “hanged”

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  53. 178
    Rimpol says:

    If I was a lawyer I would ask her family if they wanted me to sue the bbc out of existence.

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  54. 198
    David Camoron says:

    Oh shit…I can feel another U-turn coming!

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  55. 199
    Synic says:

    The Royal Family will need to use another hospital unless all the management are sacked for incompetency. They failed to ensure proper all round security for the Duchess, and did not give correct support for the nursing staff before and even worse after the event. Total wankers.

    P.S. How much are these Managers paid compared to the nurses working on the nightshift?

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    8illy 8owden, the world's greatist umplre says:

    At some point this will become the Aussis’ ‘fault’.

    The ‘fault’ goes back one step further – who gets hospitalised with morning sickness?

    If our Queen-in-waiting was treated as a normal person and just told to put up with it (as ordinary people are) the nurse would still be alive.

    Check your hands, Kate…

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    • 229
      Anonymous says:

      Absolutely right. OK on Friday to play hockey- deadly ill on sunday morning with sickness.Pampered and stupid.

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    • 243
      Dr Spock says:

      Check the deal on the condition she had – it can be serious.

      Why this was turned into a media event though is more to the point I think.

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      • 258
        adamdelved says:

        She had a condition called hyperemesis ie megavomiting.

        A condition that afflicts me every time I hear anything about the bloody Windsors.

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        • 269
          The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

          You only hear about them when the media get in to a “feeding frenzy”. Ignore the press. Just leave your number with Palace, I’m sure they’ll call you if anything important crops up.

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    • 274
      PooBare says:

      Silly 8illy. What a priceless C*nt.

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  58. 210
    Operation Crossbow says:

    I notice the BBC managed to door step that hospital AND Max Clifford but funnily enough the BBC have totally ignored ANOTHER one of their own (Stuart Hall) and if you remember the BBC closed ranks over who was responsible for the Newsnight shambles.

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    • 237
      IMHO says:

      Some people do notice, R4 a couple of days ago, they did actually say Stuart Hall (no mention of what is was about) and then silence, back to the shipping forecast. These people are an absolute disgrace (keep it in the family).

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    • 245
      Anti-po-dean Rumour says:

      And don’t forget about he who tied down a kangaroo, sport.

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      • 329
        Pundit Too says:

        Strangely the Herald Sun in Australia had a story about 5 days ago that Knacker of the Yard was in dialogue with a media celebrity in the UK, whose origins were Australian, on paedophile activities.
        They stated they did not know his name, but there was nothing on this in the UK press.

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  59. 216
    8illy 8owden, the world's greatist umplre says:

    “The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge say they are “deeply saddened”.

    They should be more than that; they should be ashamed.

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    • 224
      Anonymous says:

      Totally agree.

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    • 257
      Anonymous says:

      why? You really are a complete cr3t1n.

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      • 260
        8illy 8owden, the world's greatist umplre says:

        Without the hospitalisation there wouldn’t have been a prank call. Without the prank call there wouldn’t have been a death.

        Some people are soooooo thick.

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        • 271
          The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

          Are you actually suggesting that this was a palace conspiracy to bring about these unhappy events?

          I think David Icke and Mohammed Fayad have got a new playmate!

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          • Anonymous says:

            if the heir to the throne is being protected, he was a close friend of Jimmy Savile, the press, the net and the broadcast media has to be gagged.

            if the underlying issue is protecting paedophiles then..
            ofcourse paedophiles will go to any length to protect themselves.

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  60. 223
    UKIP - The way ahead. says:

    @8illy 8owden, the world’s greatist umplre .
    Apart from the fact you cannot spell, your comment at 212 is stupid in the extreme.
    The patient and her family are not responsible for the actions of a couple of antipodean idiots.
    The law of unexpected consequences has apparently kicked in here.

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    • 259
      8illy 8owden, the world's greatist umplre says:

      Without the hospitalisation there wouldn’t have been a prank call.

      If you’re going to get all clever, get a bit clevererer.

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  61. 226
    Willer says:

    And the well being of the other nurse involved….?

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  62. 227
    Gordons curse says:

    How much was sally sued for?

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  63. 231
    cynic says:

    Strangely all the references to the “prank” seem to have disappeared on the Australian radio station website – except for one saying that Charles had made light of it. So that is alright then

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  64. 246
    Pour Encourager les Autres says:

    The sight of various organisations rowing away from this at speed is truly amazing……first the BBC came over all sanctimonious tinged with gravitas and sadness;next the hospital who said that they supported this poor woman who was an excellent employee ;then the “Cambridges” who were saddened that a nurse at a hospital where they had been “treated wonderfully well” had been driven to this and that she, her family,friends and colleagues were in their prayers and finally Buckingham Palace. ..issued a statement rapidly “WE never complained to the hospital”……we have yet to hear from Cameron(I expect it won’t be long) and will Miliband call for a judge-led inquiry ? Only time will tell as politicains scrabble to jump on the band wagon of public outrage

    The blame for the tragedy is now clearly laid at the door of the radio station and DJs from “Oz”…….tomorrow the “Tabloids” will crucify these two pranksters…..the sacrificial lambs have been prepared…it only remains for the Radio Bosses to respond when they wake up in the morning to the tsunami that is engulfing them whilst they sleep

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    • 326
      Illuminati says:

      Sure. Because this would have happened anyway, without the Aussies getting involved

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    • 351
      Blowing Whistles says:

      And God spare us the sancitimonous – Rslicking ‘n spinning in the MSM Sunday papers …. [They'll be getting their orders from the dark actors over today and tommorrow] – Can’t wait …..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!

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  65. 249
    Election Watcher says:

    The British Royal Family is financed mainly by public money, but there are also a number of private sources of income. The official reported annual cost to the British public of keeping the Royal Family was £41.5 million for the 2008-09 financial year.[1] However, this figure is disputed since it does not include the cost of security provided by the police and the Army, the lost revenues of the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster and other expenses.

    On 1 April 2012, the old Civil List and the Grants-in-Aid were replaced by the single Sovereign Grant. The British Parliament meets the cost of the Sovereign’s official expenditure from public funds. This includes the costs of the upkeep of the various royal residences, staffing, travel and state visits, public engagements, and official entertainment.[2]

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  66. 252
    IMHO says:

    Kirsty and that bald twat host a new show of past and present BBC employees who are serial sex offenders, Xmas Special.

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  67. 253
    BBC Spokesman says:

    We were once just biased left wing loons.
    Now we are biased left wing loons with blood on
    our hands

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  68. 254
    Anonymous says:

    Not a great start for a future monarch and future head of the CofE is it?

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    • 262
      IMHO says:

      A womb with a view:
      A room with a view and you, with no one to worry us, no one to hurry us
      To this dream we found.
      We’ll gaze at the sky and try to guess what it’s all about,
      The we will figure out why the world is round.
      We’ll be as happy and contented as birds upon a tree.
      High above the mountains and the sea.
      We’ll bill and we’ll coo and sorrow will never come,
      Or will it ever come to our room with a view?
      A room with a view and you and no one to give advice.
      That sounds a paradise few could fail to choose.
      With fingers entwined we’ll find relief from the preachers
      Who always beseech us to mind our p’s and q’s.
      We’ll watch the whole world pass before us while we are sitting still,

      Leaning on our own window sill.

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  69. 265
    Andrew Gilligan says:

    To be fair if you had to worry about people topping themselves you’d have to stop making hoax radio broadcasts altogether

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    • 352
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Developing a backbone and some morality might just help – but some people are beyond the pale.

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  70. 280
    Anonymous says:

    First blame the Numpty Protection Officers who allowed this to happen, there are procedures that should have been in place. Recently one of them had an AD in Wales as well! NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE!
    Secondly blame the hospital management for not supporting this poor lady…sincere condolences to her family.

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  71. 282
    Just curious says:

    Has anybody considered that this is all a cover-up by the royal family to save any possible embarrassment?

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    • 325
      Idle moment says:

      Yes, all the usual nutters – Blowing Cocks, Tapestry… you know the types: saddos who think there’s some mysterious ‘higher powers’ working over us that only they, the illuminati, can perceive

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      • 353
        Blowing Whistles says:

        What an interesting content full comment … not a professionally paid troll are you by any chance?

        Like

      • 356
        Just curious says:

        I’m extremely impressed with your knowledge of the English language, and your choice of vocabulary. I choose mine carefully as well. ‘Prick’.

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  72. 283
    Gaston says:

    1. The “prank” was the trigger event. [Keep that in mind at all times.]
    2. The ensuing media frenzy created the climate.
    3. Some Protocol tosser from “The Palace” put extreme pressure on hospital “management”.
    4. Hospital “management” then did its collective, jobsworth raving and ranting nut on the nurse.

    As a completely isolated individual under such circumstances where your entire world has just turned to shyte, how would you respond?

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    • 292
      Interested Public says:

      8illy is right: The initial publicity around the hospitalization was the trigger. (despite how morally repugnant that fact is)

      In terms of response: There should have been family, and perhaps friends to turn to. Blogging on this site may have been quite therapeutic – anything other than isolation and pressure from work.

      The action taken is off the charts ‘bonkers’ in this situation – The coroners report will be of interest.

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      • 354
        Blowing Whistles says:

        And you trust every word that a coroner would come up with – huh … I believe shipman had some interests in coroners – then there’s Dr K. Oh Ian Tomlinson -they did try initially to conceal it ….

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    • 314
      G'Day says:

      ‘How would I respond?’Kill the boss!

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    • 335
      Anonymous says:

      You arrogant, self-opinionated git

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    • 359
      Anonymous says:

      ‘As a completely isolated individual under such circumstances where your entire world has just turned to shyte, how would you respond?’

      “The Workmans Friend”

      When things go wrong and will not come right,
      Though you do the best you can,
      When life looks black as the hour of night –
      A pint of plain is your only man.

      When money’s tight and hard to get
      And your horse has also ran,
      When all you have is a heap of debt –
      A pint of plain is your only man.

      When health is bad and your heart feels strange,
      And your face is pale and wan,
      When doctors say you need a change,
      A pint of plain is your only man.

      When food is scarce and your larder bare
      And no rashers grease your pan,
      When hunger grows as your meals are rare –
      A pint of plain is your only man.

      In time of trouble and lousey strife,
      You have still got a darlint plan
      You still can turn to a brighter life –
      A pint of plain is your only man.
      — Flann O’Brien (Brian O’Nolan)

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    • 369
      Anonymous says:

      Actually the trigger event was probably the shag.

      No shag no pregnancy.

      No pregnancy no morning sickness.

      No morning sickness etc etc etc.

      Shagging to be banned forthwith.

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  73. 284
    8illy 8owden, the world's greatist umplre says:

    0. The “hospitalisation” was the trigger event. [Keep that in mind at all times.]

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    • 355
      Blowing Whistles says:

      The Hospital – will hold an ‘internal review of procedures and failings’ – they will police themselves and openly admit that someone at some high level ‘went over the top’ – but no fault or liability will be found. [The Lawyers are working on it as I write - for a fee of course!]

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  74. 308
    Just curious says:

    So I’m possibly wrong in my thinking then?

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  75. 313
    Tom Catesby says:

    Strange this one … no doubt considering whose ‘involved’, the likes of us will probably never know the truth. Hope they hang the two Aussie twats out to dry though!

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  76. 315
    I don't nee d no doctor says:

    That’s the media for you. Anything for a laugh.
    Profit before consequences.

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  77. 320
    Moby Dick says:

    has to be more to it

    think she got full bollocking from managers hosp

    time will tell

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  78. 322
    Mike and Mel. says:

    Julia Gillard told us to do this. She thinks it is a great joke.

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  79. 328
    Can't pull the wool over my eyes, butty says:

    Wonder if the sickoes from the press were camped out in front of her house? If so, the pathetic hunts! Go and bully GO or DC – they are the ones need to be got at, you bunch of Lahndahn living media twats!

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  80. 331
    Born in teh wrong century says:

    funny how the retards who cream themselves over every royal detail and most likely lapped up the initial prank call will now be horrified by the outcome.

    general public plebs may begin understand they cant have it both ways.

    same people dont give a shit about press freedom, they just want to hear which b-lister is sucking off whichever footballer.

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  81. 361
    Eeyore says:

    I’m amazed at the irrationality shown on this topic. Let’s look at events step-by-step:-

    1. Call made by two Oz DJs; taken by woman detailed to answer phone. As a non-native speaker she is taken in by the deception.

    2. Not being in a position to hand out information, for she has none, she puts the call through to the nurse on duty in the ward. SHE HAS DONE NOTHING CULPABLE.

    3. Nurse on duty on the ward in question is also taken in, but – crucially – asks no questions (despite certainly knowing there’s intense media interest) and hands out info. THAT ACTION WAS CULPABLE.

    4. Yet it is the first call-taker who has, apparently, killed herself (though Plod has yet to come to that view).

    Why would the first nurse be bollocked? There’s no reason to.

    How could the DJs have known this would happen? From where they stood it was just a laugh – a laugh which most of the UK shared when we all heard the tapes. Now it looks different, of course, but that doesn’t change the basic facts shown above.

    How about us all growing up a bit?

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    • 370
      Blowing Whistles says:

      I watched the news yesterday [Thursday 6th Dec] Prince Charles was making fun of the whole ‘prank’ issue …

      The msm seem absolutely ‘determined’ [N Witchell on BBC psychophantic biased reporting] to point everyone over at the two dj’s in Oz – when the real truth lies within the Hospital and the nurses dormitory building where she was found dead.

      There appears to be a huge & GIGANTIC ‘stablishment effort to “KILL THE STORY” by distraction to over there. Traction!

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      • 393
        Anonymous says:

        what happened in the hospital and the nurses dormitory?

        if prince charles ok, then why were the next generation royal couple livid?

        perhaps we should get prince charles views on prank. it was childish.

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    • 379
      Anonymous says:

      Donkeys dont laugh they bray!

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  82. 363
    Anonymous says:

    A pregnant woman is hospitalised with morning sickness.

    This is such a high profile media event that two people working at a nondescript radio station on the other side of the planet use the situation as the backdrop to a practical joke.

    Their practical joke is somehow deemed newsworthy enough to be headline news.

    Has the entire world taken leave of its senses?

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  83. 368
    Anonymous says:

    If Alexander Graham Bell hadn’t invented the telephone none of this would ever have happened.

    He’s to blame if anyone is.

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  84. 382
    John says:

    The Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard did the same thing just 24 hours later when she went on another Australian radio station and claimed the World was going to end. But in the wake of this tragedy there’s been NO apology from her, just a few tut tut comments because she saw it as a ‘media opportunity’ . What if somebody suffering from a mental disorder took her stupid joke seriously and committed suicide, or worse went and harmed somebody else. Not much to laugh about then eh Julia.

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  85. 392
    Sydney Harberbrij says:

    In all the acres of frenzy and opinion I have ploughed through, nowhere have I seen a word about how the lass died.

    Any one know? Was it poisoning? Throat cut? Slit wrists with blunt penknife? Hanging from the ceiling fan?Overdose of Smarties?

    Qien Sabe???

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    • 404
      Eeyore says:

      Medics are the only class of persons given access to drugs that kill painlessly. On deciding to leave this life they rarely have to make a mess for others to clear up, nor suffer pain in their final minutes. Yet try to get a suicide pill out of them – more than their job’s worth!

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  86. 397
    anon says:

    I would like to point out that the Aussie blonde DJ has HUGE tits. Just saying.

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  87. 400
    Hutch says:

    The two so-called DJs are just the Monkeys. What about bring the Organ Grinder to heal.

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  88. 401
    Kreatcherr says:

    Of course the hospital management gave her a bollocking!

    Standard procedure, might even have threatened down grading her rank.

    A private hospital has been hugely embarrassed by a lapse in security, and considering the high profile of most of their patrons it would have been bad for business.

    They were obviously penny pinching by not having a night receptionist on duty at such a prestigious hospital and demanded that nurses take that roll on a ad hoc basis.

    That nurse might not have even met Kate or her entourage, she might have been allocated a completely separate department, might have just come on duty who knows?

    Maybe she transferred the call believing that the department that held Kate would do verification or other contact protocols…maybe the nurse that received the transferred call thought checks had already been done…who knows!

    The point is two dumb DJ’s thought they were the bees knees and decided to hoax a hospital.

    That in itself is just bad taste for obvious reasons.
    Then they thought it was funny to get details about a pregnant woman who was in some acute difficulty with her health.
    Then they thought it was funny to broadcast the whole episode.
    Including the conversations with nurses that had no idea or training about how to deal with such phone enquiries.

    After the incident the boast about how clever and daring they had been, no thought was given to the fact that they had probably placed innocent health workers at risk of their jobs and livelihoods, had no real cares about the effect it would have on Kate, pregnant women feel vulnerable on all sorts of levels, and lastly did not give a damn about ethics or morality.
    If they had concerns about security…they should have informed the police that they were able to access the patient notes via direct phone calls, you do not broadcast it for your own glory!

    Anyway such a ‘hilarious’ hoax was, no doubt, a pivotal reason why a nurse took her own life.
    Don’t give a flying rats ass how her mental state was before this nonsense went down, it was that puerile nonsense that was a major contributing factor to her utter misery, so much so she wanted to die!

    To get a ‘talking to’ from the management of a world famous hospital must have been personally devastating, especially for a health professional we might well have seen the result…and is there really any reason to think she only got ‘support’ from said authorities simply on their word? one wonders what type of ‘support’ that was?…because if freaking well was totally inadequate and badly handled to boot!

    The DJ’s…well just a couple of shallow self obsessed prats to full of themselves.
    I wonder about the legal eagles at the station. they apparently rubber stamped the broadcast, are they culpable?…their self interest…pay check from the station…pretty much led to a conflict of interest between ethical and apparently not particularly funny just awkward and embarrassing antic!

    The station has been done twice before…one time for bullying a girl into admitting rape in front of her mother and the listening nation…wonderful…!

    Is it three strikes broadcast license removed?…grey area, but getting busted regular for revolting puerile japes and sensationalism…hmm…world can do without it at the risk of civilization imploding.

    I hope the DJ’s get booted out, maybe six months down the line some night owl station needs a bit of vacation help, and maybe they might get a hoax phone call or two.
    I don’t really care about them to be honest.

    They represent all that is dumb puerile and childish in broadcasting.
    And they were prepared to bask in the glory….( one said it was the highlight of his career before the news broke) so be it, they take the death of that woman on their conscience to their grave.
    Maybe that is punishment enough.

    There are many strands and triggers to this saga, not least the over the top basking in righteousness hysterical media reporting the incident over here…
    So all in all a few heads, or none, need to roll.

    Her children might not see it like that though!
    What a wonderful xmas present?
    I do hope the jokers have good turkey farts on boxing day.
    And that goes for all the cretins that think there is nothing wrong with the media, broadcast and other, and its pathetic dumbed down priggish pompousness.

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    • 405
      Eeyore says:

      Today’s S Times says she was due to meet management (suggesting she had not already done so). Is it possible that fear of that forthcoming meeting – rather than any meeting that might already have taken place – unbalanced her mind?

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      • 406
        Kreatcherr says:

        Could be they already had a ‘little talk’ with her and after taking it under advisement and consultation would reveal the management decision regarding sanction / fine / down grading / dismissal… at a later date…the one you mention!

        She might have already presumed that she was for the P.45, I would imagine the disgrace she felt overwhelmed her at the end!
        But I do realise I could be wrong here…maybe the hospital was helping her overcome this shenanigan, somehow given their special client status something tells me opposite!

        So sad and so bloody pointless.

        As I mentioned before her pre-existing mental state may or may not have played a part, but it seems that this little bit of genius tipped her over the abyss whatever.

        I really hope that this episode will convince future wannabe celebrities that playing silly buggers with someone’s livelihood and career is not the coolest thing they could do!
        Absolutely brain dead nonsense it really is!
        I just wonder who the target audience was they intended to ‘entertain’ with this performance.
        They are morally and ethically far worse off then the dozy duo themselves.

        Sorry for the length of my last post…but I am really angry and upset about how such brainless nonsense ever became cool and the trick to pull so much so it has ended in an innocents death.
        Brand and Ross were just obnoxious, these latest two were juvenile and more interested in their own careers then the nurses they duped.

        When did society lose its integrity?…because lost it it has!

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  89. 402
    Worker says:

    As soon as I heard the Aussie arseholes make their supposed prank call I said to Mrs Worker that it would end up with a suicide or sacking.
    The two arseholes only wanted to make fun of the Royal couple and forever their arsehole non funny shite bullying phone call not only ruined what should be a happy time of the couple but ended with a death. But of course we know that the Aussies will always try to make digs at the Royals under the pretext of Aussie humour.

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    • 407
      Nemesis says:

      Fuck the royals, I couldn’t give a damn about the bleeding parasites. And as for the woman who killed herself there must have been a mental deficiency to deny her family her presence just because of a funny prank. But here’s a thought, how many British journalists were hounding the woman before killed herself? My sympathies are with the Aussies who couldn’t have foreseen such an outcome – and neither could anybody else – including many fucking idiots on these boards.

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  90. 403

    It may not be left for long, however.

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  91. 408
    Anonymous for obvious reasons says:

    I have been in a similar situation minus the Royal and Media aspects, in a private hospital near this one. I was not a Clinical member of staff, but was under investigation for failing to follow certain procedures. I can tell you I felt suicidal a lot, and was under care of a Consultant, and under anti-depressants as a irect consequence.
    I was offered no support whatsoever, just a faceless telephone number that could not help on my case, even though the hospital had put me in a very adverse situation in the first place.

    I agree with a comment above, the Nursing profession, and in particular the management of the private hopsitals I experienced is full of process people, and lacks the care aspect far less these days. They have to tick the box.

    There is no doubt in my mind she was under investigation, the statement clearly omitted that specific point.

    I have now left, but was informed I would have been sacked.

    Iam glad much of this blog has focussed on the Hopsital procedures, they are far more culpable than the nurse (not even the one who divulged) and the DJ’s put together in my opinion. I firmly believe the hosptial actions were an aggravating factor.
    I wish TV/ewspapers would delve further into the Hospital actions.

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  92. 409
    Anonymous for obvious reasons says:

    Update. Keith Vaz has just stated (on Ksy) that the nurse’s family had not yet been offered any support, as of yet. He rightly is focussing that the support they should expect and may need.

    No suprise for me, that her family has been left high and dry.

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