October 15th, 2012

Rich & Mark’s Monday Morning View


  1. 1
    Pawn Sandwich says:

    Life returns to normal. The start to a wonderful Monday is restored.


  2. 2
    Boris Johnson says:

    A Scouser walks into JJB Sports and asks the assistant “Do you have any white shell suits?”

    “oh, dressing up as Jimmy Savile for Halloween are we?” replies the assistant.

    “No I’m getting married” replies the Scouser.


    • 28
      reports from the rear says:

      police on the Savile case are now following over 300 leads – most of them attached to dogs


  3. 4

    We have come to a pretty pass when the most honourable part of the establishment may well have been Rupert Murdoch and the News of the World.


  4. 5
    nellnewman says:

    What are we coming to when even ex army generals take up the dodgy trade of lobbying?!


    • 12
      ToonBob... says:

      The Third World?


    • 21

      Did you see my List of UK Scandals with national implications, nell?

      If recent history is any judge, we shall be seeing much more of this type of stuff in the future.


      • 25
        When I was a boy the poor were skinny says:

        Moving on From The Fabric of Reality, you might enjoy A Universe from Nothing by L M Krauss.


        • 31

          I will put it on my list now as I had seen it mentioned.

          You will see that he attempted to correct the interpretation of his views as implying a blanket condemnation of philosophy as a discipline here after prompting from Dan Dennett:



          • When I was a boy the poor were skinny says:

            “philosophical speculations about physics and the nature of science are not particularly useful, and have had little or no impact upon progress in my field.”
            I too struggle with the ultimate value of Philosophy to the progress of the human race…other than it fills in the time studying PPE. I don’t see any great philosophy ( only rhetoric) emanating from the lips of the PPEs in government.


          • In respect of your last remark, if I wanted to buy a bottle of fine wine, I would not start my search at Primark!


          • Religion: The Original Sin says:

            Krauss ” Forget Je5us, the stars died so you could be born”

            “The atoms in our arms are but stardust and it is likely that the atoms in your left arm our from a different star to your right.”


          • Religion: The Original Sin says:



          • Sir William Waad says:

            Philosophy would be worth doing, just as teleportation would be, if only we knew how. Until, however, we have some means of testing a philosophy to see whether it is true, we can I suggest only jigger about with tiny bits of analytical philosophy in the hope that they might be of some use someday, or make impressive, airy statements about life, the universe and everything.

            One lot proposed that philosophies could be tested according to whether they made peope happy. It seems to me as good an idea as any.


          • Religion: The Original Sin says:

            Only prob is that after 3 score and 10, I don’t know what happy means.


          • Philosophy is less about the now, in the sense that (to me) it is more like the quatrains of Nostradamus – it only has uses retrospectively and in hindsight – it’s therefore of no use in advance.

            Apart from the philosophy of my late paternal Grandfather, which was “It’ll never get better if you pick it”, advice not taken by Arthur Scargill.


          • jgm2 says:

            Philosophy is a load of bollocks. Just a bunch of Arts graduates trying to hijack science and claim that they invented it.

            And dangerous bollocks too in the hands of political types whose every deed must be guided by some overarching ‘philosophy’ which they hadn’t the wit to write themselves nor the wisdom to realise is a load of shite.


          • Surprised at you, jgm2.

            Where would Margaret Thatcher been without Hayek or Popper? What about Isaiah Berlin?


      • 29
        Christine Kitchener of 5 Malivina Terrace Slough says:

        Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel .


    • 36
      reports from the rear says:

      its the quality of the lying thats being measured


      • 75

        Surely by measuring the quality of the lying, you force it to adopt a state that didn’t exist until you measured it?
        Or it could exist in two separate locations?


  5. 6
    another tory government says:

    another day of sleaze and corruption


  6. 7
    gramma says:

    Are Rich and Mark suggesting that lobbyists are just phallic cymbals?


  7. 9
    god, I hate them all says:

    Excellent. These sleazy dirtbags need exposed.


  8. 13
    ToonBob... says:

    Nice to see Mitchell here wearing charity wristbands in the photo, just wondering who paid for them?



  9. 18
    Broadsword calling Danny Boy says:

    You couldn’t make it up.

    Ms Abbott gets back from three months holiday to find Jerk Pork with rice and peas on th emenu at the House of Commons!


  10. 23

    When you put money first darkness will fall. Its an age old lesson that human nature likes to forget as greed and egos take over.


  11. 24
    Chris Huhne says:

    Please may I have a mention without having to go to court.


    • 49
      Hugh Janus says:

      Yes, just plead guilty. Job done (apart from a 5-minute appearance for sentencing of course)!


    • 83
      Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

      Fear not Chris, the Grand Master is on your case, as you know (not enough evidence to convict etc etc). Boaz


  12. 26
    ed martin says:

    its been a retirement perk for years

    how is it covered in the defence contractors accounts – is this the bit the auditors used to claim they didn’t get to see? or is it BBC style omerta?


  13. 32
    When I was a boy the poor were skinny says:

    “It’s as easy as catch 22. While were waiting for the Queen to join us in memory of the War Dead, I lobby Them to ensure the next generation of munitions kill even more.”


  14. 35
    FREDDY STARR ate my SISTER says:

    The last bastian of democracy !
    Let the people speak !
    Let politicians know what the people want !
    Exercise YOUR Right to have your say !
    Show the world we are a free society !
    It’s what makes Britain Great
    Your right to chose !
    (not available in England)


    • 37
      reports from the rear says:

      ‘people’ chose hitler


    • 43
      jgm2 says:

      What does England need a referendum on English independence for? It’s much cheaper to have the five million in Scotland vote than the 55 million in England and the result will be the same.

      Although a full English independence vote would have the bonus of getting shot of Norn Irn as well.


      • 55
        FREDDY STARR ate my SISTER says:

        And the promised EU referendum ?


        • 60
          Dave Camoron (one-term PM) says:

          Aas I’ve said many times, I believe in equality and democracy and small government, with the people – not government – running their own lives.

          But not when it comes to the English, and certainly not in relation to the EU.

          Toodle pip!


        • 63
          jgm2 says:

          That would be nice too.

          But Fucking Scotland isn’t getting one of those either. Although, depending on the wording, they might be inadvertently voting for EU independence as well. I say ‘inadvertently’ because the S&P’s policy is to remain in the EU.

          It really does seem like nothing more than a big ‘Fuck You’ to England. I can understand a country wanting to be free to make all its own decisions. I totally get that. But Fucking Scotland is simply having a fight about whose laws it will be rubber-stamping.

          If the argument for remaining in Europe is that it gives countries a ‘voice’ on a global stage then Fucking Scotland’s voice in the EU will now be down there with Denmark and Ire*lan*d instead of up there with Germany, France and England.

          As a policy, ‘Scottish independence’, while remaining in the EU, is so incoherent it deserves nothing but derision and contempt.


      • 57
        Where's ENGLAND's parliament?? says:

        England needs a vote in case the Scotch get it wrong and vote to remain in the UK.


  15. 47
    Hugh Janus says:

    A left-handed salute? Skid and Mark ignorant as well as hopeless. At least they are consistent.

    Oh yes, and the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior isn’t even close to the Cenotaph….


    • 66
      A Labour-educated student with an A* in GCSE history says:

      The unknown warrior was a black one-legged lesbian who campaigned for equality and diversity and women’s rights. Although she was executed on the orders of Thatcher, her spirit lives on in all of us.


    • 68
      H MacMillan (dec'd) says:

      Details, dear boy, details…


  16. 52
    Andrew Mitchell says:

    What do you call a queue of well dressed girls outside Jimmy Savile’s dressing room?

    Savile Row.


  17. 67
    Constance Briscoe says:

    It’s a fair cop.


  18. 76
    When I was a boy the poor were skinny says:


    Our local MIND branch has just thanked businesses donating prizes to their recent fundraising event.
    A back massage
    A pizza meal
    A will
    A free Taxi ride.
    That’s the sum total.


  19. 84
    Ernestine Tentions says:

    I understand that the fun of the blog would be spoiled by by any viewpoint that contrasts with the latest virtual mob running down whatever is the current virtual blood soaked street but…

    It is a long time since I served in uniform and I am a little older than the Very Senior Officers involved. However, I have worked with and associated with some of them and their like in the years since I was retired from the service. I have never met a general officer whose integrity I had the slightest reason to doubt. Some of them are egocentric bastards, for sure, but I would instinctively trust them. People do not join the military to get rich. In fact, most officers could not give a toss about money – to the point of being positively lax about it.

    In these times when the political puss has oozed into every walk of life, I would hope that some people could overcome their cynicism and trust that there are some good people.

    I find it unbelievable that people are so eager to traduce Lord Dannat. The man was respected and liked almost universally by his soldiers. It is much more likely, in my opinion based on experience, that he and his ‘brothers’ are devoted to ensuring that the lads and lasses get the kit and conditions they need to do the filthy work they are tasked with by their contemptible political ‘masters’. They will, I am sure, do anything possible, and without shame, to achieve their aims.

    Generals, Air Marshals and Admirals have to be, and are, fairly direct (i.e. brutally honest) people who will tell you right into your face what they think of you and your daft ideas. They are, in fact (again in my opinion) the antithesis of the scum sucking pond life that makes up the political class. It is highly probable that revenge is being sought by some twerps who have been humbled in the past by their moral betters.

    If I am wrong and the senior military staffs have been hijacked by self serving thieves, liars and perverts (like the rest of the establishment) I can only suggest that we are in grave peril and ought to stock up on water, tinned food and firearms.


    • 86
      jgm2 says:

      In fact, most officers could not give a toss about money – to the point of being positively lax about it.

      That begins to explain how 2bn quid aircraft carriers suddenly cost 5bn quid.


      • 92
        Ernestine Tentions says:

        I was referring to personal remuneration, but then I suppose one should expect resident half wits to deliberately misconstrue.

        Anybody who has any insight into MoD equipment programmes will be aware that military officers rarely have any input into the decisions that escalate costs and cause delays. They are almost entirely caused by incompetent, arrogant and deceitful politicians who constantly change the rules to suit their own agendas.

        The carriers could, I am certain, have already been in service at a fraction of the cost, with aircraft, if it were not for the attentions of the vote buying corruption of G Brown, the arrogant incompetence of Ainsworth, the deliberate stupidity of Hoon etc. etc. drone, drone, drone.


    • 88
      the poor bloody taxpayer (PBT) says:

      did you serve on hms troutbridge or hms broadmoor?


    • 91
      Hugh Janus says:

      “I find it unbelievable that people are so eager to traduce Lord Dannatt. The man was respected and liked almost universally by his soldiers.”

      Well said Sir, similar experiences here. Dannatt is as honest as the day is long, but may be a little naive about the murkier aspects of politics and the self-serving scum who now infest that once-noble occupation. However, a scheming and dishonest nest-liner like his former political masters (mental pygmies all) he certainly isn’t. And he was one of the very few of CGSs to speak up for his subordinates whilst still in post when the rest remained silent until after retirement.


      • 96
        sekwarf odiug says:

        “the self-serving scum who now infest that once-noble occupation” Are you sure about those last 3 words, I thought they had always been like that, in fact it was a prerequisite


  20. 87
    ed martin says:

    there’s not much on the BBC net news front page on this today



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