October 1st, 2012

Tears of a Sleaze

Keith Vaz cuts a lonely figure tonight as his sits deep in contemplation in the bar of the Manchester Radisson. Surrounded by paperwork and an iPad wielding flunky, delegates are keeping their distance as he occasionally barks into his mobile. Guido has been sitting here for thirty minutes watching as the Chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee massages his temples and stares pensively into the middle distance.

The revelations in today’s Telegraph that the police investigated half-a-million pounds of suspect payments to the Labour MP seem to be sitting heavy. Guido is no expert, but he would hazard a guess from the eyes that Vaz has been crying in the last twenty-four hours. Expecting more bad news tomorrow?


271 Comments

  1. 1
    tears of laughter says:

    Hahahahahahahaha…..

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    • 8
      ToonBob... says:

      Stop, just ‘cos ‘e is blick !

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      RageAgainstthePolitcalElite says:

      Has he worked out that his Pension is not going to get paid.. Ha ha.. Another W-nker Politician who has just worked out that they have fu–ed everthing they have touched.. Its like a Jonas Charter of Politicians Globally,, Clue less Useless and lost and always doing the wrong thing.. HA HA

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    • 59
      SOCA says:

      What he’s realised is that the police don’t go away if you say sorry and return the money when found out.

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        Blowing Whistles says:

        One could on balance then – Hope the plod also continue their investigations into Sir John Butterfill(his) boots – one of ‘THE’ Tory’s caught out on Dispatches with Hoon & Hewitt (Also in the top 10 of erring expenses profligacy) – trying to flog influence when they were almost! ‘shoehorned’ into becoming Lards of the house of old boy$ – oh … Butterfill also occupied a seat at the 1922 committee. Still he has his Portugese wine impoting businesses to rely on for a little bit of extra income nowadays – seeing as the expenses gravytrain has hit the buffers. What a bedblocking **** he was indeed. [See The Telegraph of old Re: Bed-blocking the ruse and the charitable donation!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ]

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          Phil says:

          The most blatant corruption scandal if you really want to go the whole hog is in my opinion the 2 Labour duffers in the House of Lords who were caught in flagrante delecto offering to change legislation in exchange for 100 grand bungs on the telephone.Their punishment as labour party members was a smack on the wrist and six months gardening leave FFS.Nasty does not adequately describe this shower of shite.
          In any kind of fair society they should have been stripped of their titles and booted into touch.

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      • 106
        Father Ted Crilly says:

        Dougal, I told you, it was just resting in my account!

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        Anonymous says:

        Will he still be permitted to chair the Select Committee or immediately removed from it?
        Innocent ’til proven guilty maybe,but no way should he hold office whilst this is going on.

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    • 172
      L Thansafety says:

      And he can’t even have a drink to numb his pain.

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    • 232
      Al Capone says:

      Cherchez la femme

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    • 251
      Bertie Buttplug says:

      As a sleaze he is right up there with Bliar, Brown and Balls.
      He is one slimey piece of work that needs to be sorted out …..at long last!!

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  2. 2
    john in cheshire says:

    Please God, let me live long enough to see this person in prison, together with his cohort of thieves from all parties.

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    • 26
      The Archbishop of Cantleberry says:

      Amen to that, I say, Amen

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        The ArchDruid of Canting(Very) says:

        Of course, when one says ‘Amen’ that in no way is meant to exclude, ‘All Women’, nor is it meant to offer any, however slight, unintentional, or oblique, criticism of or aspersion cast upon, those of any other gender or, indeed, of none. As The Gray Book of Glynsabon put it (only the one shade of gray in those less lightened times), ‘Whether it groweth in the ground or on the roof, the Leek is yet a Leek.’ This gnomon partakes of the same truth as that uttered by Gertrude Stein, in which she addressed the essential rosiness of the Rose. That eminent Psychologist Heinz Kiosk – whom I knew quite well at Aberystwyth – was wont, rather one-sidedly to declare, “We are all guilty!”: well, yes (and,then again, almost no), for are we not all by the same token also all Innocent? ‘Innocent as charged’, surely, sounds so much better than ‘Guilty as charged'; unless we are Batteries, when it might be ‘Energetic whilst charged; lacking in energy when discharged. Which, naturally enough, brings us back yet again, to the matter of Polarity, or Polarities, rather….

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    • 44
      Dr Nuts says:

      I suspect that prison will never happen. For the simple reason that if it does, there’s a precedent for others to follow…. it’ll be a highway.

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    • 212
      democracy now says:

      when the police come to arrest him, will he still use that awful plummy voice, or will he drop that and eff and blind at them

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    • 255
      Handycock No1 Trougher in Parliament says:

      I hope you are not including me in your cohort of thieves. Boaz.

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  3. 3
    AC1 says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/houseprices/9578151/House-prices-fall-for-a-third-month-in-a-row.html

    Average affordability showed a monthly rise of 0.1pc, the same
    increase as July and August, property analysts Hometrack said.

    The study said house affordability will remain under a “slow, upward
    pressure”, but the scale of increases might be limited in the short
    term by a reduction in the numbers of homes coming on the market.

    September marked the first time since January that seller numbers
    decreased, while demand from potential buyers has been shrinking for
    the last four months.

    The latest figures are a sharp contrast to the start of the year, when
    between February and May buyer demand increased by 25pc, which
    Hometrack said was similar to a seasonal pattern seen last year.

    No region across England and Wales saw house affordability fall in
    September, and the North West saw the biggest increase with a 0.3pc
    rise.

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    • 47
      Quiet Bat Person says:

      Excellent news!

      Bet the Beeb won’t spin it that way though.

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        soapy says:

        Estate agent speak is too bloody confusing. Why can’t they use simple English and say that prices seem to be falling at the moment?

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  4. 4
    Jimmy says:

    OK, I must admit that Labour are a load of greasy crooks.

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    • 10
      ToonBob... says:

      and 100,000 homes needed for our guests.

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        Really? says:

        Our ‘guests’ will outnumber the hosts in many towns and cities, in just a few short years. Celebrate diversity children, the balkanisation of Britain is almost complete.

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    • 15
      Well it's a thought says:

      That’s not our Jimmy, our Jimmy’s retort would be a list of Tory corruptions, can’t have Liebour slated can we Jimmy.

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    • 63
      Alex says:

      All three parties are stuffed full of greasy crooks.

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      • 81
        Anonymous says:

        I used to think like Jimmy, until I realised Labour were a bunch of hypocritical,lying,money-grabbing greasy crooks.

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        • 246
          Really? says:

          Jimmy’s critical function is seriously impaired whenever the word ‘Labour’ is in play.
          He can see, hear or speak nothing but adulation, because he can’t reason or think independently anymore. He is the perfect Labour stooge, there’s not a dog whistle he can’t hear or a ’cause’ he can’t support if his masters say he must.

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        Leek Kinnochio Top Top Top Salary Multipensions says:

        ha

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    annette curton says:

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    Vazzzzzzzzzzzzzz says:

    Maybe the pile of steaming s h i t has seen this?

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  7. 7

    We will take good care of him…..

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  8. 9
    mitch says:

    please, please and pretty please make the evidence so blindingly irrefutable that he goes to jail forever.
    I also hope he shares a cell with an enormous, homosexual lunatic.

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  9. 11
    The Tuesday Boy says:

    Hope he isn’t signing anything whilst having his pint. Us plebs would get the sack for mixing alcohol and work……….even if we paid for it ourselves.

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  10. 12
    Anonymous says:

    It could not have happened to a nicer person. Honestly.

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  11. 14
    Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

    How did the stinking corrupt Westminster system ever let this career criminal become the chair of an influential committee. Blair sacificed Elizabeth Filkin so that this slime ball could deliver the Asian Vote in the East Midlands.

    Didn’t his wife get caught stuffing postal votes into envelopes and it all got swept under the carpet – can anyone help with the detail on this one.

    Blunkett writes today about politicians being ridiculed and despised; he forgot to mention his own contibution to the process i.e. shagging someone else’s wife and the trying to impress her with a free first class rail ticket paid for by the tax payer.

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      Which old dog? says:

      It’s Blunketts dog I feel sorry for, having to watch as David positions himself and then performs.
      Should the RSPCA have been informed about the mistrearment of an old dog?

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      • 39
        The Sickening Bunch Who Were NuLiebour says:

        You forgot about him turning a blind eye to illegal immigration!

        Is it true that one of his catch phrases was I can smell your c..t

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    • 31
      Plato says:

      Elizabeth Filkin was sacrificed, no doubt about it. For being too good.

      Shame on all of them…

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      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      Actually Blunkett’s article was a despicable slice of shit – he spends a lot of it warning that public disillusionment with scumbag MPs will lead to more votes for the far left and far right. This airbrushes from history his own far left career at Sheffield Council

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      • 249
        Really? says:

        Far left and far right, dog whistles for the brain dead.

        What Blunkett really means is that he and the rest of the rats in westminster, have been caught with their knobs in their mistresses / rent boys, hands in the till and their lies exposed as the shameless scams, they really are.
        He’s miffed that people are waking up to the LabLibCon of endless lying and self enrichment, nothing more.

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    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    So let’s get this right. The police covered up Hillsborough. The police covered up phone hacking. The police covered up Saville. The police covered up Vaz.

    Now I don’t know about you lot but I see bit of a pattern emerging here.

    Fucking plebs.

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      UKIP.i.am.awake says:

      Oh and I omitted Rochdale.

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        Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

        And Rotherham and Megan Stammers relationship with her teacher. The list of our politicians and governing classes abandoning the people who really need help is almost endless.

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        • 229
          Susie says:

          And the BBC covered up Jammy Sivall. All of them knew. All of them kept quiet about little girls being abused in his dressing rooms.

          Wonder if BBC4 will still be showing those old TOTPs with Jimmy snuggling up to a couple of teens — I remember it always made me feel uncomfortable — he was soo OLD.

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      • 53
        Dr Nuts says:

        What about Burglars – where are the police when needed? out chasing what they think are real criminals – speeding drivers!

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      • 82
        Blowing Whistles says:

        It’s what the four “Pillars of the state” have been getting away with for decades – they all rely on one another to keep the masses from “The Truth” while at one time or another – one pillar is seen to be attacked by the others. It’s all “Smoke ‘n Mirrors” to keep the plebs – oppressed.

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        (I've been renamed) DA-Notice says:

        and Dunblane.

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    • 36
      Vaz Deferens says:

      You missed out Ted Heath…

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    • 120
      The 'great british' establishment says:

      Dr Kelly
      Dunblaine
      That kids home on Jersey

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    • 256
      Handycock No1 Trougher in Parliament says:

      The police have covered up me on countless occasions. Boaz.

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  13. 17
    annette curton says:

    Can this be the same person that took up ‘the sword of justice’ at the Leveson Enquiry?.

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    • 27
      A depressed straw says:

      View every single politician as a pile of steaming sh ite, and you’ll not be wrong.
      True, some piles are bigger than others.
      Indeed, some piles are much bigger than others.

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        soapy says:

        Does all this explain that fabulous item entered this week for the next Turner prize? The Beeb woman was drooling over what has been termed “a steaming pile of sh*t”.

        Is the artist/artisan trying to tell us all something?

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  14. 18
    MartinW says:

    And while we are talking about money “going astray”, what about the £100,000 claimed by Jaquie Smith for her “main residence”? That was fraud – and massive, too. The BBC air-brushes it out of existence, and invites her frequently on to Daily Politics. Oh, and there’s “Baroness” Uddin – same amount.

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      Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

      What about David Laws and the catalogue of lies he spun about his family to attempt to justify stealing £45k. What is it Mandelson said ” if you are going to committ a crime as a politician – make sure you are a homosexual

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      • 28
        rialB ynoT says:

        I’ll get an inn-junction to prevent my name being mentioned.
        Cherie? Cherie baby?

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          Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

          What about Ruth Kelly’s flood, look into her claims properly and you will find that she was no different than the thief from Luton Margret Moran.

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      annette curton says:

      Nobody dared say anything about Jackboots Jaquie Smith, Home Secretary at the time as Damien Green found out to his cost. Met rushed in mob handed, trashed his apartment and then dragged him off for a 10 hour interrogation, we still don’t know if he also got electrodes attached to his privities.

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      • 52
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        You are the real author of,”50 Shades of Grey” and I claim my £5.

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        Blowing Whistles says:

        At the point of Green being “Locked down” – It was at that time that the Police had been “completely politicised” by Bliar and his pirate mates … shame is they (Plod) still will not admit to it. ACPO – Profiteering clique of greedy pigs – allowed to be such by Bliar and His cohorts. In denial ACPO plods? Yes you are.

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        • 230
          Laughing hangman says:

          Easy disband ACPO, and stop its money making scam of driver training if you get fitted up for speeding.

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      • 158
        Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

        What about the former education secretary; if someone would just investigate her expenses properly they would be on the same scale as the former Member for Luton

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  15. 19
    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    Hahahahahahaha.

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  16. 20
    Col. Nut says:

    Let’s hope the slimeball gets what’s due to him despite his influential friends and ability to play the race card. He’s been laughing at the electorate and lining his pockets for so many years.

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      Conjugate, bent, bendier, bentist, Vaz says:

      Indeed, Aden Colony, Asian Colony (Leicester) then Wormwood Scrubs all has a nice sound to it.

      Don’t hold your breath though, Right Honourable members of the exclusive Westminster Gentlemen’s Club, particularly members like “Slippery Keith” can prove remarkably resilient and impervious to serious investigation.

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    Conjugate, bent, bendier, bentist, Vaz says:

    I fully understand that people are rarely held to account in the Westminster Gentlemen’s Club but it would be nice to know EXACTLY which idiot made him “Chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee”

    If we all know that he is as bent as a Miliband banana and the police know but choose to do nothing, why the hell does he get a job like that!

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    • 69
      Col. Nut says:

      Wasn’t it Harperson who recommended him and there was no contest? With his track record the appointment beggared belief and is a shameful indictment of British politics.

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      • 79
        Slag features rides again says:

        It was indeed. In July 2007, Vaz was appointed chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee. Select committee members are usually proposed by the Committee of Selection, but Vaz was the only nomination made by Commons Leader Harriet Harman.

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          Leek Kinnochio Top Top Top Salary Multipensions says:

          Everything she touches turns to dust.

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          • A Dyson says:

            You don’t know that for sure. Have you seen her personal bank accounts and those of her relatives? until you have, do not be so sure.

            Where there’s dust there’s brass.

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  18. 24
    Satchy & Satchel PR says:

    “Daz washes whiter than white”

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    nellnewman says:

    £500,000 and much of it in cash and none attributable to any accountable source. What was this money given to him for and who gave it?

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    • 60
      Quiet Bat Person says:

      It was just ‘resting’ in his account.

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    • 198
      The Paragnostic says:

      You’ve hit the nail on the head there, nell – if you or I were to be caught moving that amount of cash around, we’d be in the frame for money laundering and probable tax evasion.

      Vaz, on the other hand, is above that sort of thing, which is why this will be found to have all been a regrettable misunderstanding and not at all due to Labour importing subcontinental practices along with the subcontinentals.

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    • 235
      An evader says:

      Tax tax tax. Don’t you just hate it.

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  20. 37
    General Dyer says:

    Greasy, oily Asian – a corrupt sleezeball of the highest order. His very existence is a continuing stain on this country. That he and the rest of his ilk have been allowed to pollute out country for so long is nothing short of disgraceful.

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  21. 38
    Muuurty's Ghuuurst says:

    They are all thieving (rhymes with punts)

    It’s on par with some one burgling your house and sending you the bill for the ‘privilege’

    Cue the race card at some point. (Some wag wrote elsewhere – he has them printed by Waddingtons)

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    • 167
      Norman Stanley Fletcher says:

      The only card he should have in his hand is a Community Chest card while he’s playing Monopoly with the other cons. Would you Adam ‘n’ Eve it? Go to jail.

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  22. 40
    Sadsick Khan says:

    Sag aloo.

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  23. 41
    Chrstopher Paul-Huhne. says:

    Look I’m telling you now. I will not share a cell with that slime ball.

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    • 46
      Mod bot buster says:

      is it Huhne ?

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        Blowing Whistles says:

        Will we see the MSM – completely ignore the real ‘Public Controversy’ of Huhne and Pryce?

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          And you thought you lived in a society where everyone is equal before the law? says:

          They have to. The judge has granted the Huhne reporting restrictions.

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          • who why what where when says:

            For an ex- journalist like Huhne to seek to muzzle the press is utterly shameless.

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          • Jimmy Sa vile says:

            They are shameless, ‘ave you learnt nowt at all?
            Given half a chance this Huhne would break into your ‘ouse
            Sniff your teenage daughters knickers (nowt wrong wi that) the run off with your bi sexual wife with your pension under his arm

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            No one has to be a paid up member of the flaw society or the bar counsel to know the law – and that it is an open and shut case – both guilty.

            As ststed similarly above – its the Judiciary who are on trial here – LETS BE HAVIN YOU – M’LUDDDITES. (Resistance to change – of their out-dated Trade of “tricks”)

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          • The Hard Shoulder says:

            And quite right too. After all, no-one has ever heard of Mr Huhne and there is no public interest in knowing if a man who is presumed innocent is going to be found not guilty or not.

            There must be something about the evidence that needs to be kept quiet. Are speed cameras on the M11 a national secret?

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    nellnewman says:

    Apparently edmiliband was praising vaz to the heavens yesterday – so he’s happy to keep covering for him.

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  25. 49
    Jimmy says:

    “Expecting more bad news tomorrow?”

    I doubt it. I think they’ll lead with the 9/11 attacks.

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    • 170
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Where are Jo Moore and Stephen Byres these days ….?

      And where is Estelle Morris – these days; maybe she realised her delusions several years ago when confronted with several issues at an annual TUC indoctrination party at Blackpool?

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    Atlas; the one lad who shook the world says:

    The anagram of Vaz is Vaz. Say’s it all.

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  27. 57
    The Labour Smear Twat says:

    The nasty Damian McBride strikes again.

    http://dpmcbride.tumblr.com/post/32591430164/the-seven-year-hitch

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    Religion: God's curse on Mankind says:

    Don’t blame me for Vaz, different God.

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  29. 64
    Lawboy1976 says:

    Hooray!
    On the other hand, it shows a disgraceful and callous discard for his cultural sensitivities.

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  30. 65
    Religion: The Original Sin says:

    Vaz has been crying in the last twenty-four hours. Expecting more bad news tomorrow?

    Yup, he’ll still be Vaz

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    • 86
      Blowing Whistles says:

      That Bar Steward, because of the positions (Committees) he wormed his way onto – holds a lot of dirt on many ‘others’ – hence they’ve had such a problem getting at the fucker.

      The whole of Parliament needs to be “Purged” of his ilk and all the dirty crop of Mental Patients – all running around with dirt on one another. It is beyond time for a total clear out.

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    • 113
      Dr Nuts says:

      There was an attempt at the last election with a load of independent candidates standing.
      The only one to be elected came from N. Ireland.

      The party machines went into overdrive – and there was the leadership debates.
      Too many people were only too happy to vote for the rosette than think about who is wearing it, or what it represents.

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  31. 66
    Alex says:

    Regardless of any dodgy dealings relating his failure to declare it, I wonder if he paid any tax on it?

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    A Thoughtful VOTER says:

    Lets hope its more drip drip drip bad news for slimey V A Z on Tuesday also its Abu Whats his name having another go trying to avoid his one way ticket to paradise in the USA, at the High Court tomorrow, of course at Tax Payers Expense.

    Then we have Ed Milliepeeed the Minor’s keynote drivel…….think I will adjourn at that point & have a very long shi*t but all the while thinking Red of Ed & his nose job, LOL……..

    I will of course be wiping my ar*se on ZanuLielabor loo paper all printed with images of there last three dictators ……..

    Hope someone has thoughtfully ordered extra supplies of Kleenex to donate to slimey he will need them.

    Any news on complaints to Standards Committee Office about the
    latest revelations, which must be enough get slimey suspended from the Chair of the Committee

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  33. 70
    Religion: The Original Sin says:

    There’s only one thing more enjoyable than a Greek Tragedy
    An Indian Tragedy.

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  34. 72
    BBC Newsroom lefties says:

    This is not a news story. Just as we managed to totally avoid mentioning our part in Jimmy Savile’s alleged kiddie fiddling we also magicked away Ed Balls confession he enjoyed dressing up as a Nazi and of course we magicked away the double standards of Labour for moaning about the cut in the 50% tax rate when most most of Labour’s years in government it was actually lower.

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    • 94

      Labour has no problem with people becoming disgustingly corrupt.

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      • 116
        Dr Nuts says:

        So long as it’s the right people – themselves!

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          Ah! Glad you turned up. Just a word about that Christmas list.

          The David Deutsch book to start off with IMO is The Fabric of Reality, an emergentist theory which has four components consisting of Everett’s many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics, Popperian epistemology, Turing’s theory of computation and Neo-Darwinian theory. It is an exhilarating read and a hugely ambitious project. Curiously, I am less convinced by the third part than the others, notwithstanding it is his main subject area. I recommended it to Paragnostic who told me he came to quite a similar conclusion. But it has triggered off in me an anticipation that, if correct, would have ramifications for the future course of philosophical studies.

          It’s obvious weakness is in the area of moral philosophy and he attempts to address this in his sequel, The Beginning of Infinity, with understandably limited success as its metaphysical content is further removed from his area of expertise and we already have wonderful contributions in this field from R G Collingwood and his ilk.

          That I am also sympathetic to Dennett’s multiple drafts model of consciousness but a less enthusiastic supporter of Strong AI may illustrate what a curious mix I am!

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          • ya feel me? says:

            The nincompoops who put their faith in AI completely miss how much of our consciousness resides in the spinal column and the sympathetic nervous system.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            I am one of those nincompoops.
            Be aware that we write the theory that the Psychiatrists and other professionals use. Generally we base it on the latest understandings of Psychology.

            So start – Psychology is an evolving subject which has increasingly sophisticated tools at its disposal.
            Rest assured we are moving beyond the IA paradigm.
            The question is: Which research papers have you read?
            Have you bothered getting aquainted with Biological Psychology to understand the latest research in Artificial Intelligence.
            We can only work within the framework of what is recognised as psychological knowledge, although there are modifications.
            AS for how much resides in the spinal column and sympathetic nervous system – we as much look for what is missing as we do what is there.
            That I can promise.

            You seemingly make too many assumptions – I’m interested what research papers you’ve read, and conferences you’ve attended?

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          • ya feel me? says:

            Artificial Intelligence will always remain what it is……..artificial.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            Interesting already – I remember during the early stages of my PhD facing the Epistemic Worlds debate of knowledge, and the idea of emulating it in a Knowledge Agent using a game based theory.

            The whole theory is based on epistolic knowledge, which can develop over time. I believe that the solution to Consciousness is based on 1 Second Consciousness. This supplants both multiple drafts and strong AI, with circular thought and limited knowledge.
            For example – how many words do you know, so if you hear/read it you know it. Compare that to how many words can you recall (350 -750).
            It’s not about Strong/Weak AI, it’s about memory and conscious/subconscious interaction.
            Go to Biological Psychology, and Consciousness has the veto on actions, but cannot be the prime activator. So we come to Subconscious and there’s the question of fast and raw brush-strokes v slow and fine detail.
            We all have theories, it all depends on the start point. I’m a Biological/Neurological Psychology adherent, and no that’s not just Neural Nets by a funny name!

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          • ya feel me? says:

            You mean thought has a veto on actions? But then again in other circumstance, action vetoes thought. Both thought and action are components of consciousness.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Dr Nuts – can you seperate the two fields of Psychology and Psychiatry from one another – you have muddled up the two.

            “Psychiatry” is the “Created Industry” of Snake-oil- salesmen for example Sir Prof Roy Meadows, David Southall / BBC celebrity Shrink Dr Raj Persaud and all of their acolytes.

            Suprise suprise – its the Shrinks – selling their Sanke-oil in the family courts that the wigs have found so useful [useful tools]. Get your head around the facts Dr Nuts.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            YFM?
            Really?
            Based on that simple utterance, we have 2 potential opinions:
            1 Only Humanity can be conscious.
            2 Only Biological Entities can be conscious.

            No hope that with increasing awareness of how the human body works, with researchers like myself providing previously unconsidered research, (my philosophy is primarily based on Descartes) which I believe covers your assertions and makes them ‘interesting assertions’.

            There are an increasing number of us (researchers) who are looking at consciousness being a resulting development of the body, not of the mind. This implies consciousness and self-awareness are then facets of the simultaneous psychological developments to match our bodies adaptations and increasing dependence on tools.

            A strong parallel argument is in the definition of IQ. If we took an ancient Egyptian and brought him/her to today’s Western Standard of living – how much would the ancient egyptian understand, as knowledge is based on a set of primitives (basic knowledge units) which we learn early in life, and allows us to develop into the complex understandings we have. This led to the controversial argument that African tribesmen were less IQ embued – ultimately because they were not so adapted for the world we (western society) take for granted, through lack of primitives in knowledge, but likewise we are poorly adapted in knowledge for the African tribesman lifestyle.

            The question of consciousness is problematic – there is no definition, and by that measure, there is only (at the moment) observational (qualitative) measurements to determine what is ‘consciousness’. Even the idea of what is consciousness is itself vague!
            We come back to the subconscious is the prime motivator of actions, while the conscious only has the power of veto!

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            Re AI – if we are ever to create such an entity, it will most likely not be a computable thing, by which I mean something which takes inputs, does a calculation (however complex) upon them and then outputs a result.

            As ‘ya feel me’ points out, it is short-sighted to restrict our idea of a conscious entity to the brain alone – the rest of the nervous system is certainly vital, as is the existence of the physical body which allows us to discriminate between self and not-self.

            My suspicion is that anything that we could usefully call an artificial intelligence will be a continuous process using other. simpler processes to mediate the interactions with the material world, and will be necessarily far more fluid than the attempts made so far – and whether such an entity would deign to communicate with us bags of flesh and bone at all is a question we cannot answer yet.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            Psychiatry is snake oil salesmen?
            Are you stating there is:
            No Depression? With the need for anti-depressants – I guess you’ve never met someone who’s suffered from Depression.
            No Schizophrenia? Again never met a schizophrenic!
            No Mania? Again ever met a Maniac!
            Do try again when you’ve worked out what Psychiatry is!
            BTW – There’s also addiction based disorders.

            As for action vetos thought – action REQUIRES thought! Even learned action requires at the beginning thought.
            This is a boring conversation, it’s not a case of a discussion, I am having to teach you!

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Dr Nutty – when did you last pass a psychiatric examination – what experience have you got in the family court system – by which I mean evidence based and have you got a clue what the overriding objective stands for? No Idea – then fuck off and start reading up about the law Rsole.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            The law is based on competing lawyers providing competing theories, and that in turn depends on how much does a lawyer know? A lawyer’s intent is to prove a person innocent/guilty – regardless what their weaselly words and glib lipservice says about finding the truth!

            Court is NOT about what the latest research and theories are.
            If you read New Scientist, you’d be aware that Lawyers have little clue about the statistical data relating to DNA presented in evidence during a court case.

            Lawyers are not about proving a theory but about winning a court battle. Try reading research papers instead – Biological Psychology is a good start. And back at you! Idiot!

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            AS for Lawyers don’t know much about statistical data presenting DNA evidence – New Scientist – (recent) in the past 2 years!

            IF you read New Scientist you’d be aware of the limitations of court!
            Research papers are where Psychology and Psychiatric research are presented – not to a jury!
            The best publications are through peer reviewed journals. (AT least in theory).

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          • Beyond Kripkenstein!

            It sounds to me if you have developed more down the Penrose/Hameoff/Chalmers approach and I have seen the naive arguments that run each way between them and the likes of Dennett.

            Not being an expert in this field, my attention has been drawn into it from my interest in philosophy and a fascination by where the cusp lies with other related disciplines.

            I unwound, partly, from my previously held skeptical position because it failed to address the issues of ethics, love and other such matters which clearly need explanation. That entailed looking back to the Idealists who were brutally cast aside by the crashing waves of the positivists, Ayer and LW (although he was influenced by eastern thought).

            Bearing in mind Bradley’s famous dictum Metaphysics is the finding of bad reasons for what we believe upon instinct …, I have tried to find some synthesis between apparently conflicting outlooks. The history of last century had a lot of that. many now regard LW’s two philosophies as reasonably complimentary whereas I had learned they were in irresolvable mutual conflict. The developments at CERN have also surprised. I suspect that the cusp between philosophy and physics will need to be remapped just as that between philosophy and psychology has.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            Cat thanks. I’ve made a note of that.
            I’m sure a quick interweb search will give a fair review.
            Till next time!
            AS for being a strange mix, there’s a whole smorgasboard of competing theories, from a whole range of different disciplines.

            Have you heard of ResearchGate? It’s a community for researchers and other dedicated people. I am a member, though it’s been a while since my last submission. I get regular updates by email though.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            Actually, one of the biggest sea changes in research has been the inclusion of emotion.
            We used to think it was an emergent property from cognitive thought, but now it is a basic premise for cognitive thought. The idea of a psychopath is someone who does not have emotions, and as a result the idea of ethics is being rewritten based on
            we have emotions therefore we have ethical behaviour.
            It was a big development. I remember going through grad/post-grad tuition material on Biological Psychology and emotion was not considered as anything near its now growing importance. Now it is moving into centre stage.
            Although Biological Psychology is still primarily about the activity of neuron cells up, and across the entire body, we’re moving to the importance of particular groupings of cells, Hypothalamus for Homeostasis etc, and now the importance of emotions, so giving a limited credence to Agentised cognition/consciousness (2nd source of primary evidence).
            Although IA and MAS have not been discredited, they’re still an area of intense research because their development is so slow – they are by their nature complex, and complexity unfortunately brings to the table competing ideas for solutions!

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          • @Dr Nuts

            You will find fair digests around but, like all of their type, they cannot develop the finer strands of argument, as you will well know. No doubt we might possibly find plenty of points of disagreement but we can discuss these in a civilised manner, a point that others here might try and use maturer reflection to ponder. I will certainly investigate ResearchGate although I see they are criticised for spam and wonder what your experience is.

            Have to say I had no idea my side-note to you would cause such a furore!

            @Paragnostic

            Agree with your tentative conclusion and most of the argument leading to it with the exception of the dualism, from which I recoil. I imagine that would not upset Dr Nuts though.

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          • @Dr Nuts.

            I have strongly suspected for almost two decades that emotion is a basic premise for cognitive thought without having any means of being able to justify my position so your remarks are most interesting. Consciousness is so damned elusive when you turn it on itself – the age old problem of self-reference in any field.

            Back to Deutsch, he appears to support my contention that, at high level, the universe is very simple to understand. Of course, one may drill down and it can become very complex. He took it one step further than I did. He envisages that it is not no longer impossible to be polymath. It’s just you will never remember all the facts (which can be looked up.) I suspect we can recall rather more than the 750 words you mentioned earlier but it is unlikely to exceed the single thousands.

            I have always taken the approach that the more I learn, the less I know. It is a good discipline. If it is an untruth, maybe it is also a good untruth!

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          Sir William Waad says:

          What is the point of positing ‘many worlds’ if the others have no observable consequences in ours? Isn’t this metaphysics?

          Eh? What’s that? Apparently 5 trillion parallel Bill Waads disagree….

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          • I shall for the sake of this exercise assume just one parallel universe in which Sir William had posted against my comment and not my interlocutor’s!

            In answer to …if the others have no observable consequences in ours, they are! This is dealt with in chapter 2 Shadows with a very interesting light experiment which anyone can do but is too complex to describe in this space.

            Isn’t this metaphysics? Yes. Very soon, maybe within one hundered years, the only useful contributions that philosophy may have left to do will be in the area of metaphysics.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Never mind the high felloutin ok YAH BOOKY BOOKS bollocks SC – where can I dance on the grave of Eric Hobsbawn – the marxist bastard dupe – he’s dead now and won’t “The Truth” about him being a Zioloon Marxist dupe OUT?

            This country was not and is not and never will be a Marxist – satellite of the Isreallies.

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          • Anonymous says:

            I predict that that within 30 years what we now call paranormal activity will be found to have a basis in fact, thus in theory letting the idea of god once more through the back door as far as scientific materialism goes. Research in this area is thus being closely monitored by Dawkins and his not so merry band of intellectual plodders, and quickly smeared and rubbished, or redefined in materialistic terms. Not for long.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            The principle of multiple worlds – or epistemic worlds is that every possible action can be considered as having occured, with each possible subsequent action…
            By this premise it is potentially possible to establish ‘logical omniscience’. AS for, is it metaphysics, it started there. The perfect solution space is larger than the Universe, and from there we develop a limited form.
            The result is that theoretically …. we can develop …. using supercomputers …. (preferably quantuum computing) ….
            etc, it’s becoming futuristic in possible solutions, but one of concern is military/security applications.

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      all that glitters says:

      “Now Gary, all he did was to take his computer into PC World to get it repaired. They went into the hard drive, saw all these dodgy pictures and told the police and the police then ‘Oh we’ve got a famous person … Oh my goodness, yeah we’ll have them’.” Jimmy

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      all that glitters says:

      “Now Gary, all he did was to take his computer into PC World to get it repaired. They went into the hard dгіvе, saw all these dodgy pictures and told the police and the police then ‘Oh we’ve got a famous person … Oh my goodness, yeah we’ll have them’.” Jimmy

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        Blowing Whistles says:

        Try Ken Bailey – dead now and the former – old boy creep who used to lead out the England Football team – He didn’t abuse little girls – he abused little boys! and who in the ‘stablishment can deny that it was not ‘covered up’?

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          Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

          Goodness, if Dr Nuts continues to post on such a scale there will soon be more people up here reading The Sun than Guido’s blog!

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  35. 73
    Aunty Matter says:

    Why isn’t ‘Twatwatch’ one of the tags Guido? Is Nick Robinson going around licking the arses of every Labour politician he can find?

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  36. 74
    PRIVATE RICHARD. says:

    Reckon you need a phone with a decent Camera Guido. No doubt the red minders will have moved you on by now though. Wouldn’t be surprised if you agreed to some small print when you bought the conference ticket.

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  37. 75
    nellnewman says:

    You have to admire militwit’s labour – wannabee labour mp’s for 2015 alastaircampbell, sadiq khan and the sons of bliar, straw and harman.

    Obviously they all want to get on this gravy train that vaz has found!

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  38. 76
    Geo says:

    couldnt happen to a nicer hypocritical, race card wielding, “I’m entitled” trougher

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      Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

      This is the payback from the Lodge. Vaz should not have shafted the police when Chair of the Home affairs committee. Why do you think I never criticise the police? Jahbulon.

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  39. 78
    Heidi Alexander says:

    Hi,
    Did you you see my appearance on Channel Four’s political spot this evening? I know the horizontal stripes don’t usually suit us larger girls but I’ve lost a few pounds lately and I think I got away with it.

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    • 88
      Anonymous says:

      No need to worry sweetie. With that deliciously skinny husband you make quite a balanced couple.

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  40. 80
    Baron Hogwash says:

    No sign of John Mann vomiting lyrical on the airwaves demanding inquiries, resignations – funny init.

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    Religion: The Original Sin says:

    Vaz was elected Chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee, replacing John Denham, on 26 July 2007. He was unusually nominated to the Committee by the Government, rather than by the quasi-independent Committee of Selection which, under the Standing Orders of the House, nominates members to select committees. The Leader of the House argued that this was because there was not sufficient time to go through the usual procedure before the impending summer recess. The Chairman of the Committee of Selection told the House that the Committee had been ready to meet earlier that week, but had been advised by the Government that there was no business for it to transac

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  42. 92
    Taking the middle road says:

    Guido must have cut a lonelier figure tonight, as his sat deep in his paranoia outside the bar of the Manchester Radisson.

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  43. 93
    David B says:

    He would be the first to call for someone in that position to resign

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  44. 95
    (I've been renamed) DA-Notice says:

    More bad news tomorrow? I bloody well hope so; the shit.

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  45. 96
    Pedo-Savile from my grave says:

    Vaz is Taking the Jimmy out off you pleb’s

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  46. 98

    Huhne. No reports in MSM of today’s trial adjourned until tomorrow.

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      Blowing Whistles says:

      The “Judicary” [and the ACTORS] ARE ON TRIAL – in the Huhne / Pryce matter. Are they not one of the 4 pillars?

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  47. 100
    t'north says:

    git ye all doon t’tchop house – (mr thomas’s) – and ther’s plenty moor like that!

    wot are you doing in ‘containerland’ (wot’s radisson – a notifiable infection or a shipping company?)- perhaps even the pussy is hygienically packaged – you probably checked the price before flying here via milano

    in civilisation (Neston) ‘pub was busy, full of decent ‘crack’ (economy – we’re both left & right; *******ed etc; shrimp quality (good): apples (delicious but funny weather hit pollination so poor volume – scrumping time?) – and of course our boring inadequate selves

    now sir – wot else is there to life? please do let us know – then bugger off back to what youbpretend is a home worth inhabiting

    ta ra for now pal

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  48. 102
    jgm2 says:

    Fuck him.

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    Eric is dead long live Marx, the BBC says:

    BBC radio 4 has interrupted normal programming to mark the death of a Marxist historian.

    I could weep.

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    • 120
      BBC PRAVDA says:

      Nobody could be more on the wrong side of history than Hogsbawm, and yet he’s celebrated by the BBC. Says a lot doesn’t it?

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    • 136
      BBC spokes liar says:

      Bigging up a Eric the Red leaves us with no time to mention Jimmy the Perv in the news headlines.

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      ex History Student says:

      Hobsbawn’s death come seventy years too late. Pity the Nazi’s didn’t get him into one of their Camps. Coming to think it, they should have taken Milliband pere as well

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        Blowing Whistles says:

        What a statement – many would be put in prison for that kind o thing in the recent past … Oh – Perhaps some have ….. ‘cos of stoopid duped Plods ‘n CPS Christian twats?

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  50. 104
    Bleast says:

    We need more of these type of Asians in parliament

    Thwey try and screw you into the ground but at least they tend to be honest

    Shit at curries though

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  51. 107
    Beast says:

    He’s Golden Brown
    The tears of a clown and he’s going down

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  52. 110
    Jimmy says:

    It’s just occurred to me that Guido’s lead story is that he’s just spent half an hour staring at Keith Vaz.

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  53. 112
    Beast says:

    A “Gheek”
    Probably up North for some” grooming” hints as he communes with the late Jimmy Savile

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  54. 117
    Gordon Brown MP says:

    I have full and complete faith in Keith. His integrity is unimpeachable.

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  55. 119
    Jimmy Sa vile says:

    Keith
    What you need to do is lots of work for charity and buy a lot more gold
    You already have the Roller and cigars, get yourself a shell suit and run a few marathons and all of this will pass
    Even better
    Folllow your pr&phet and fuck a 12 year old
    #It didnt do me any harm
    Ows about that then?

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  56. 122
    Jimmy Sa vile says:

    As the final and greatist profit once said

    Get your Knickers off and heres a pitta bread with 12 candles on it now fix this

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      I don't need no doctor says:

      The noise was Abbott filling her pants after a particullary hot jerk chicken curry. Apparently the stain is still on the seat.

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  58. 126
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Why not just turn the House of Commons into one of HM Prisons?

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  59. 131
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Masters of Money (Stephanie Flander) is spouting shit on the BBC. She tells us about how capitalists rip off the plebs. She fails to mention the last 13 years of a labour government, and how they ripped off the plebs.

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    • 137
      I don't need no doctor says:

      The more I listen, her memory becomes more and more selective. Still no mention of labour under Blair and Brown.

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    • 140
      Ed n Ted says:

      That’s our girl.

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    • 156
      Fuck the LibLabCon says:

      I never listen to anyone over 6 foot tall with the forehead of a fucking klingon!

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    • 174
      T.B£iar - the People's Messiah says:

      ‘for the part that I and the last Libor government played in that global REGULATORY FAILURE, I am deeply sorry…..

      IT WAS A BROWN/BALLS BALLS-UP..

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    • 178
      AC1 says:

      Rip off = mutually beneficial exchange.
      Being Nice = Extorting money with threats.

      Moral inversion = marxism.

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    • 185
      P.Mandevilson, the Eminence Greasy says:

      Stephanie, we are intensely relaxed about people becoming filthy rich.

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      • 188
        BOB coCROWch says:

        Yeh but not when they are Tory toffs.

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        • 199
          Fish says:

          Fuck me. I think there must a coup d’etat under way.

          Tonight it’s the Marx appreciation night on the Beeb, or the Marx Broadcasting Corporation as they called themselves without the slightest sense of irony. This new DG at BBC towers seems to have carried on where the last loser left off – driving them even further left. No pretence of balance now.

          First having been assailed by Flanders (the woman shared by the two Ed’s) – ‘Marx was right – the Banking crash proves it’. She ignores Browns statist destruction of our economy, pensions, balance of payments, currency and pensions, years before the Banks failed. Silly cow.

          Then some obscure Marxist dies – someone called Frogspawn apparentl,y whos name would mean nothing to the average 10 o’ Clock News viewer, but they still found time to tell us. Miliband and Labour’s Newsnight also paid homage…nothing about Vaz though, strange that.

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          • The BBC are cunts says:

            Move along – nothing to see here.

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          • JH says:

            Similarly they tried to pass off Miliband senior as one of C20’s greatest thinkers recently.

            DO fuck off, BBC. You are not convincing anyone with this pathetic attempt to underpin your failing ideology.

            Look at the Guardian’s circulation figures if you don’t believe me.

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  60. 138
    Sir William Waad says:

    I must say it was jolly decent of Mr Vaz to open the Waad Magna summer fete in St Frideswide’s vicarage garden this year. He showed what a jolly good sport he was by standing in for the greasy piglet (which had suffered a fatal encounter with a tractor). Several folk caught him but nobody was able to hold on!

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  61. 146
    Fabians are Evil says:

    Get out the Piano wire

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  62. 154
    Tiger Tiger says:

    The bigger the turd the higher it floats in the political cesspit.

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  63. 162
    Jimmy Sa vile says:

    Vaz started out as a criminal, he was done for shoplifting as a boy (true)
    He has now upped his game

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    • 165
      nellnewman says:

      I think it’s labour that have lifted their game . They started out as dodgy car salesmen, progressed onto sleight of hand merchants, progressed into conmen and finally became the mafia.

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        Blowing Whistles says:

        And The Shirt lifters – don’t care which party they join as long as they get to squeal about themself, self, selves.

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  64. 164
    nellnewman says:

    So has anyone identified where this £500k , part in unidentified cash, has come from? Surely not the Hin du jas?! Those pals of mandy’s!!

    Doesn’t matter militwit said yesterday vaz is the backbone of the labour party and praised him to the heavens! Labour founded on sleaze and corruption! Or alternatively balls brownite egomania!

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  65. 169

    Mortgage payments of £26,500 a month. Easily affordable on an MP’s salary.

    Vaz sounds OK to me…

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  66. 182
    Sir Jimmy Sexoffender says:

    For years and years and years there’s been gossip about me being an MP. I just tell them I’m a kiddie fiddling wierdo. Works a treat. Keeps the MP thing out of the tabloids. magic magic.

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  67. 187
    Money buys silence says:

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      The Law respects the rich and the powerful says:

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      • 193
        A Pleb says:

        But is there anything to stop the press from reporting that Huhne was in the Dock today but they could not report about it?

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        • 196
          Ecuador Embassy time says:

          It musy be a serious thing. Even Guido is not reportring it and he defied Barry Leveson.

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          • Julian a singe says:

            What’s happening? I can only get dago TV. Is anyone talking about me?
            Wish I’d picked a country to flee to with good English. ‘No speako de bolee bouleez, ok’..get me some chips please. These tortillas are doing my guts something rotten.

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      Carina Spinagain says:

      Fuck off !!

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  68. 190
    Privatise the BBC says:

    Awww diddums – couldn’t happen to a nice chap.
    Can’t find this on the BBC by the way, clearly hasn’t made the Guardian yet..

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    강남스타일 says:

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    It is good to see that the MSM are now completely ‘found out and wanting’ – for their decades of lies and deception upon the public. Fezzing up to readers year in year out as if they (MSM) are ‘on the side of the public’ …. huh ….

    All they’re interested in is keeping hold of is that ‘falsity’ of Freedom of the press! – Do me a favour gov!

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    Bad Al MP says:

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    Kebab Time says:

    Scrap the BBC > http://kebabtime.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/a-disgrace.html If NOTW had to close over phone hacking the the BBC has to close down for covering up child sexual abuse!

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  73. 222
    blub says:

    so many stories to be told

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  74. 238
    The Hon Peter Stain says:

    He’s as honest as I am.

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  75. 240
    madsleaze ad frankies older sister says:

    I love the bit too where Labour colleagues on the Standards and Privilidges committee moved heaven and earth to stop any investigation. So just who were his protectors and why did they do it? Mere party loyalty? Orders from above?

    I smell sleaze

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  76. 241
    The BBC Fanzine 24 Hour News Channel says:

    To-day we shall be reporting(interspersed with syncophantic and soft interviewing of the leadership) extensively from the Labour Party Conference in Manchester as there is nothing else of relevance to report in the news AND we are after all talking about the next Governmentof the United Kingdom….we think the two Eds are so scrummy don’t you !!!

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  77. 242
    Grollace says:

    Would you accept a FreeCycle used Vacuum cleaner from that guy?

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  78. 243
    reality bytes says:

    Tell me why Vaz is different from Yeo or Laws or any of them? These ‘people’ are out of control only because we allowed them to lie and cheat without censure, we as the ultimate guardian of our democracy dropped the ball. Want someone to blame for the simply stunning levels of systemic corruption at the heart of Westminster?

    Well I blame the electorate, I blame people who listened to the likes of Cameron and Bliar and then actually believed them. Trusting to the point of special school learning impaired leaning toward comatose vegetable , a greater part of the electorate would vote for Abu Qatada if he wore a big three rosette. Want someone to blame? Blame yourself if you voted for these bog slime.

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      Well it's a thought says:

      Give somebody the key to the vaults and the knowledge they are untouchable, with zero responsibility, having been allowed to spin and lie their fkin heads off, with paid for staff who tell them they are the greatest thing since sliced bread what do you expect when they are left alone in the vault, they believe it’s their own money and they can use it as they wish, yes I voted for that thing called Camoron just to get Brown tw&t out, it’s failed now I will decide when I get to the polling station , which is next month for the plod thing.

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      • 259
        reality bytes says:

        I and many like me on these very pages before the 2010 election were begging people not vote for Cameron on the basis that he couldnt be worse than McRuin, well he was and is. Look back to the comment sections of this blog in the spring of 2010, it was full of warnings of what would happen and the reality that has now presented itself. The ever gullible voter gave him the benefit of the doubt or were stupid enough to believe that Clegg represented something new. Looking back at the historical record if the comments section I find it incredible that the warnings were not heeded, they came true to the letter.

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  79. 244
    Vazoline says:

    My dear friends Baroness Innit-Uddin, Baroness Warsi, Ali Dizaei and all the ethnic voters of Leicester fully support me as I have always looked after them. The rest can bugger off.

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  80. 247
    Well it's a thought says:

    Chuk your money on tv, Libor won’t take anything from the uconned us they took us into a double dip recession, does the tosser really believe what he’s saying and what people will believe what he’s saying in his expensive solicitors suit ffs, it appears Libor has whitewashed 13 years of it’s tyranny .

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  81. 248
    Sergei Pulnikov says:

    Here he is, making more in monthly mortgage payments than most people earn in a year:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/9580214/Vazs-extreme-mortgage-bill-was-seven-times-higher-than-pay.html

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  82. 252
    Lord Reith says:

    Where is the MP recall legislation we were promised in the Tory and Lib Dem manifestos?

    Oh I know it’s with the promised Referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. In the well of broken promises from thieving politicians.

    Why do they write manifestos? It seems pointless. A much better idea would be to direct democracy, a few big egos spouting in the Big Brother House an the rest of us voting with the red (or blue) button.

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  83. 254
    Pete Roleum-Jelly says:

    Vaz has done no more than all the other lying corrupt bastards. Just on a grander scale and he’s managed to get away with it (so far).

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  84. 261
    reality bytes says:

    Keith Vaz is nothing out of the ordinary, he is a perfect illustration and poster boy for the modern political class, he is simply saw an opportunity and took advantage of it. He is just one of many that have enriched themselves at the expense of the taxpayer, there are thousands of Vaz replicants out there and people vote them in again and again. In a genuine free democracy people like Vaz would be fiddling social security or forging cheques, in this new order people like him are sitting in a degraded parliament that once presided over a global empire, oh how the mighty have fallen.

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  85. 263
    freddy the farting fish fascinated by Phrenology says:

    Hopefully from this sewer of corruption will emerge a true Englishman to rid the realm of the liars, thieves, murderers and fornicators.

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  86. 264
    Kevin Keegan says:

    I’ve kept really quiet, but I’ll tell you something – we’re still fighting for clean and honest politics in this country. And I’ll tell you honestly, I will love it if this greasy, corrupt bastard finally gets his come-uppance – I would LOVE IT.

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  87. 265
    Geordieboy says:

    I always new the slippery slimy bastard was corrupt. Snail trail comes to mind.

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  88. 269
    Make my day punk says:

    Hamza gone, Vaz in the shit! Brill!!!!!!

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  89. 271
    Eric Frogspawn says:

    In the larger scheme of things Vaz will be just a shit smear on the footnotes of history…still, it’s nice!

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