August 6th, 2012

Chart: LibDem Promises Spin Unravels

LibDem MPs have been out in force this afternoon in an attempt to spin themselves as always having kept their side of the Coalition agreement. First Nick Clegg insisted: “my party has held to that contract, even when it meant voting for things that we found difficult. I am proud that we have met our obligations“. Then Simon Hughes chipped in: “We have delivered everything“. Oh really?

Not for the first time, yellow rhetoric is some way off the truth. On Lords reform 91 out of 305 Conservative MPs voted against the bill, or 29.8%. Yet on tuition fees 21 of the 57 LibDem MPs, some 36.8%, rebelled. On trickier decisions, a greater proportion of Tories have kept their promises than LibDems. Who’d have thought it…


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  1. 1
    Gordon Brown says:

    What tune shall I play in my icecream van?

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  2. 2
    Calamity Clegg says:

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  3. 3
    Tory whiners says:

    Whhhhiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

    Labour in 2015. Out with this rabble.

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    MrAngry61 says:

    Roll on the end of the coalition – let’s see how the lib dems fare when they seek re-election.

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      Carina says:

      Yes, it looks as if Chris Huhne is in the driving seat and hurtling the LibDems to the cliff edge.

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    The Last Quango in Paris says:

    So the Lib Dems shaft us today – what have they actually done for us? Any decent MP’s and the mess of Laws and Huhne.

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    • 76
      Handycock Immigrant Trafficker says:

      Don’t forget me. I have delivered 20,000 asylum seekers in to Portsmouth in the last 10 years, as I promised Gordon Brown I would (that’s where I got my protection from as well as from the Grand Master). My boys and I have made millions out of it housing them, as have the LibDems through disguised donations from my boys. Boaz.

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        Ali Farsi says:

        You are a truly great man your Lordship. Since I came into the country, over 200 of my immediate family and their immediate family are now residing in Portsmouth in wonderful housing provided by your boys, with the rents paid by your great coalition government. You can rest assured that, as agreed, we will all be voting for you at the next election and paying a proportion of our cash in hand wages from your boys to the Liberal Democrats. This is a truly great country.

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  6. 6
    Jimmy says:

    Although to be fair no Lib Dem voting against the whip got promoted straight after.

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  7. 7
    Anonymous says:

    LibDems are always lying scum.

    Just like the Labour Party.

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  8. 8
    Cleggy The Stud says:

    Hey no fair! You’re not allow to use facts in the argument!

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  9. 9
    Peter Grimes says:

    Cloggy and his foul bunch of third-raters are showing their petty, vindictive colours again; and they are liars!

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  10. 10

    Guido

    You are enjoying yourself aren’t you, don’t blame you. But beware for your words could move mountains and if the coalition splits then Labour could return to power within weeks/months. Do you think that labour are ready to lead our nation again?

    Also given how annoyed so many people are with the current government and with the general belief that “they are all as bad as each other” a quick election could easily see the BNP gain a few seats. Mind you that could be a good thing as it would offer pause for thought and the upping of the game by the major parties.

    After all if the main parties politicians act like children, more and more people in times of economic and social crisis will eitehr choose to abstain form voting or vote for someone new/different. Especially in our rapidly changing times.

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    • 82
      Eeyore says:

      ‘….ready to lead our nation again…’?

      You think they were ready the last time?

      If the next GE were tomorrow, the polls tell us Labour would romp in, so hacked off are the public with having their goodies taken away. That won’t matter much as, despite all Balls’s huffing, they’ll have to contain spending – and might even be more disciplined than the present sloppy lot (OK, I can hope…).

      But the really interesting bit is what happens to the Tories. At least half of the ‘proper’ Tory voters will go for UKIP, paving the way for an end to the ‘heir to Bliar’ nonsense. So at the election after that, we’ll actually have a David Davies-led real Tory party to vote for, one that once again treats people like grown-ups (remember that?), to which the UKIP defectors can return in droves.

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  11. 11
    Well says:

    They can all fuck off.

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  12. 12
    Lord Scalded Bollock says:

    BREAKING NEWS

    Bashir Al Assad,President of Syria has been killed.

    Let’s celebrate !

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  13. 13
    Anonymous says:

    Love the choice of axis, very Lib Dem.

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    Incidentally, Morrissey lives in Los Angeles, CA, where he pays minimal tax says:

    Morrissey has slammed the coverage of the London 2012 Olympics for its “blustering jingoism” – and likened the “foul patriotism” to the Germany of the Nazis.

    In a statement posted on True To You – an online Morrissey fanzine – the former frontman of The Smiths outlined his distaste for the media attention given to the royal family and the sense of British spirit.

    He goes on to say that the “spirit of 1939 Germany now pervades throughout media-brand Britain”, as a result of the Olympics coverage.

    The statement reads: “I am unable to watch the Olympics due to the blustering jingoism that drenches the event. Has England ever been quite so foul with patriotism?”

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  15. 15
    Rio Ferdinand says:

    What a bunch of choc ices!

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    Professor says:

    Realistically, if the LimpDims could not heat labour at their most despised in the opinion polls, common sense should have told them to shut up shop.
    It seems Arse-Stabbing and Backstabbing are a condition of entry to the party.

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      Tomorrow's Chip Wrapper says:

      You could say the same about the Tories…if Cameron couldn’t beat the most detached and unpopular PM in memory on top of the imploding campaign caused by “Bigot-Gate” then he and they have absolutely no chance now…………

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    tommy5d says:

    I can’t deal with all this… it’s bad enough watching the Tories spin about the Lib Dems but now we have Guido spinning for the Tories about Lib Dem spin. It’s all too much.

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  18. 21
    Professor says:

    Spin is Spin, This seems fact!

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      Backwoodsman says:

      My experience of limpdims at constituency level, is that they couldn’t even lie straight in bed. socialists too up themselves to vote labour, is the standard description.

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      • 28
        Gordon Brown says:

        They tell me I have an inflated ego! What does that signify?

        Anyway, I agree with Nick!

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    Well it's a thought says:

    I can honestly say I don’t give a fck what the yellow and the blue do, I won’t be voting, for the red, yellow or blue.

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  20. 27
    Camertwat's Master and Commandeer says:

    He does everything I say!

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  21. 30
    Anonymous says:

    From the Coalition Agreement -:

    ‘We agree to establish a committee to bring forward proposals for a wholly or mainly elected upper chamber on the basis of proportional representation. The committee will come forward with a draft motions by December 2010. It is likely that this bill will advocate single long terms of office. It is also likely there will be a grandfathering system for current Peers. In the interim, Lords appointments will be made with the objective of creating a second chamber reflective of the share of the vote secured by the political parties in the last general election.’

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    • 38
      Only 6 days 05 hours 36 minutes until the Olympics are over! Yay! says:

      Did that come with a cast-iron guarantee by any chance?

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  22. 34
    BBC Bias says:

    O/T Anyone know what’s happened to the Biased BBC website? It seems to be more down than up these days.

    Anyone successfully gotten through to it in the last few days?

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  23. 35
    Charles says:

    I remember posting these stats in a comment on Lib Dem Voice a few weeks ago. Lib Dem’s don’t respond to reason.

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  24. 37
    nellnewman says:

    It’s no so much the libdem spin that’s unravelled it’s more that the libdems themselves have unravelled & spectacularly so.

    I for one am surprised, at one point I thought they were in a position, with the coalition, to build their credibility and rival the declining labour party.

    The reverse has happened and it’s like they are now imploding.

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      Only 6 days 05 hours 33 minutes until the Olympics are over! Yay! says:

      One would expect them to implode, but their support is staying stubbornly at the ~ 10% mark, which I find incredible, given how spectacularly crap they’ve turned out to be.

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        nellnewman says:

        Well they’ve had a 25% dive in membership this last year and their membership numbers are still falling steeply.

        10% support in current mid term polls Yes – but that’s not really significant or indicative of what voting patterns would be in an election.

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          Only 6 days 05 hours 22 minutes until the Olympics are over! Yay! says:

          Good spot on the 25% dip, I’d forgotten reading about that, I was distracted by photos of Jessica Ennis.

          Still, everyone in the LibDims is either new to the party or has renewed their membership at least once since it became apparent (in 2010) that they were a bunch of shysters, so I’d still have expected a bigger fall than 25%.

          They’re not doing the old SDP trick of pretending they had twice as many members as was really the case, are they?

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          Only 6 days 05 hours 20 minutes until the Olympics are over! Yay! says:

          Good spot on the 25% dip, I’d forgotten reading about that, I was distracted by photos of Jessica Ennis.

          Still, everyone in the LibDims is either new to the party or has renewed their membership at least once since it became apparent (in 2010) that they were a bunch of shysters, so I’d still have expected a bigger fall than 25%.

          They’re not doing the old SD*P trick of pretending they had twice as many members as was really the case, are they?

          (I’m not going to believe it if it was SD*P that was causing moder*at*ion).

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    CoalitionHater says:

    From: The Coalition our programme for government:-

    “We will await Lord Browne’s final report into higher education funding, and will judge its proposals against the need to:
    – increase social mobility;
    – take into account the impact on student debt;
    – ensure a properly funded university sector;
    – improve the quality of teaching;
    – advance scholarship; and
    32 The Coalition: our programme for government
    – attract a higher proportion of students from disadvantaged backgrounds.

    If the response of the Government to Lord Browne’s report is one that Liberal Democrats cannot accept, then arrangements will be made to enable Liberal Democrat MPs to abstain in any vote”

    So exactly how did the Lib-Dems breach the agreement?

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    daveblogg says:

    why doesn’t clegg just go back and work in brussels,he wont be missed.
    cant trust any of the limpdicks,yellow was a good colour for them to choose.

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    SP4BS says:

    That graph is spin in its self.

    Why didn’t you have the base line at 29% to make it look even more impressively different.

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    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK CODFATHER of SOLE says:

    Classic BBC Quote ! Seb Coe did a fantastic job of bringing the Equestrian eventing to Greenwich
    There are tens of thousands of people here who have never seen Equestrian eventing , there thousands of people here who will never have seen a horse in the flesh !
    .

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  29. 67
    4 skins and a rude boy says:

    Completely OT but Happy Independence Day, Jamaica:

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  30. 68
    Some Twat up North says:

    Definition of a lib dem

    “A Tory thats yet to be mugged”

    Anyway you read it cleggy boy “You’re sacked”

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    • 70
      Some Twat up North says:

      And take that imbecile cameroon with you when you leave, just make sure he hasn’t forgotten his children, all 300 odd of them..l

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  31. 77
    MB. says:

    Thanks for that table, I had a feeling that was the case as I listened to news earlier.

    I suspect that Conservative backbenchers will rebel against anything from the Liberals.

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  32. 78
    An innocent voter says:

    What is the point of the Liberals? Anyone in the know, plesae tell me.

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  33. 81
    Beveridge says:

    Coalition Agreement gave LibDems an opt out on tution fees. Therefore no rebellion, no story.

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  34. 83
    Unhappy with Dave says:

    Impossible to understand why Dave’s advisors are so pathetic.
    He should: immediately call a referendum on Boundary Changes, introduce a simple Lords Reform Bill based on David Steel’s (mostly) sensible suggestions, beg Boris to stand at the Corby bi-election in November. He should also refine detail plans to dissolve the Coalition and go to the country. Labour are not ready for Government no matter how much support they get from the BBC and our mainly leftie commontators and the LibDems would be obliterated.
    Come on Dave, stop mucking about and get on with it.

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    Eeyore says:

    At last the LibDems are reverting to what they are really for – opposition from the moral high ground with no prospect of having to soil their hands with the realities of power.

    Nobody ever became a LibDem to get into government and, now they find themselves there, they’re scared sh*tless.

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    Gordon Brown Bust my Country says:

    One day the English Tories will wake upto the fact that they don’t need Murdoch puppits like Cameron and Elect an Englishman like Davis afterall the Tories have the majority in England, and don’t need Dutch Wankers like Clegg

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  37. 90
    Anonymous says:

    You are the natural party of government Ha Ha ha One term wanabees Bye bye yellow and blue boys xx

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  38. 91
    Anonymous says:

    Good spin by Guido – you forget Lib Dem MP signed a pledge to vote against tuition fee’s – Tory MP where elected on manifesto to support lords reform. so all bar chart prove is 29.8% of troy mp broke with there party manifesto pledge. should done it as number of lib dem mp who broke there pledge on tuition fee against number Tories who broke Cameron promise to get elected house of lords – would of been bigger too.

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    lightly boiled edge says:

    This is rich coming from the LibDems who reneged on their ‘contract’ to scrap tuition fees. Arsehol*s

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