July 16th, 2012

Michael White Owes Guido An Apology

The controversial Downing Street Second Email System story is back in the news. In 2007 in the middle of Blair’s Loans for Lordships crisis and the arrest of Downing Street officials by police searching for evidence, Guido alleged that there was a second, unofficial, email system in Downing Street used to send off-the-record emails. The Mail on Sunday ran with the story, the Prime Minister’s Official Spokesman under questioning from the Lobby denied its existence at two briefings. Guido demanded that the PMOS issued a correction, none was forthcoming. Shortly after on Newsnight, back in his more camera-shy days, Guido repeated the allegation. Michael White in no uncertain terms sided with the PMOS saying Guido’s story was untrue, based on the word of PMOS rather than any research.

Under questioning about this subject by MPs on the Public Administration Select Committee Blair’s Cabinet Secretary Gus O’Donnell also claimed “There is no second email system inside No 10.” Damian McBride two weeks ago confirmed the existence of a second email system in Downing Street. Michael will surely want to correct his naive mistake…


  1. 1
    Dead tree press says:

    Micheal White like all others at guardain are shameless liars and spinners for Labour : http://kebabtime.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/g4s.html


  2. 2
    George Gideon Oliver Osborne says:

    I’m sorry,so sorry.


  3. 4
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Did they ever apologise for shining a spotlight directly on your white patch?


  4. 5
    MrAngry61 says:

    Fergettit Guido – you may have been right, but no-one in the media/politics cares about the 97-10 Labour administration these days.

    The only way that the story could be sexed up would be if the second email server is still being used – concentrate on that.


    • 49
      erm... says:

      question: did Gus.O.D lie or did he OD on incompetentce.
      He now wants to govern…Bank of England no less.
      should we let him.


      • 62
        Anonymous says:

        The answer is No ! i hope more comes of this, he lied on camera.


        • 68
          erm... says:

          if blair is judas..then so are those close to him..
          chancellor appoints the governor. The question should be posed to him.
          ….can this wait until after the olympics though. #justsaying.


  5. 6
    Alistair Campbell says:

    Listen you lying little toad. There was no 2nd email system inside number 10, no dodgy dossier, no loans for honours, Tony and Gordon never argued, Damian McBride never worked for the labour part and I have never ever lied in my life.


    • 23
      Alistair "Tourettes" Campbell says:

      What the f2$k are youse talking about you f%4king Tory toady tosser…..sh&t, cU&t a hole…..how dare you attack Princess Tone & Dame Michael White…you fu*king baby eating scum…(rant continues ad nauseum)


    • 45
      erm... says:

      But you were a depressed fiction writer.
      apparently not a good ‘un either.


  6. 7
    Johann Hari says:

    Leave Michael alone. Like myself, he is a journalist of the highest integrity.

    Now, I must leave you as I have a lunch meeting in an hour with the ghost of President Lincoln.


  7. 8

    Correct his mistake? Are you kidding? Mr. White will do what every Lefty does, expunge the record and re-write history.


  8. 11
    Sir Michael White says:

    That was not me on Newsnight. I am never wrong. The Guardian pays all its taxes and is highly profitable. I never lie.


  9. 12
    Michael White says:

    You lost that night Gee-do


  10. 13
    Damian McBride says:

    It was Charlie Whelan who made me do it.


  11. 14
    Charlie Whelan says:

    Fuck off you tory scum.


  12. 15
    Tomorrow's Chip Wrapper says:

    Meanwhile “Dave” tells us that he’s MORE committed to the Coalition now than he was in May 2010…unfortunately the majority of his party…ISN’T


    • 19
      jgm2 says:

      I’m still struggling to understand what madness got into Clegg and the Lib Dems insisting on an elected House of Lords.


      • 27
        MrAngry61 says:

        Clegg wanted a blocking minority in the Lords and entertained the notion that enough Lib dim voters might vote one in.


        • 30
          jgm2 says:

          But an elected HoL is madness. Sure, they might put up with being a ‘revising’ chamber for 10 years, 20 years, maybe even 50 years or 100 years but at some future point they (the HoL) would turn around and give it:

          ‘Hold on a minute we’re just as elected as you c*unts. How about we propose the legislation and you argue over the spelling..’

          And who could argue with that?

          Future constitutional crisis nailed on.

          Utter fucking madness.


  13. 16
    Desperate Dan says:

    We certainly don’t want a proven liar like Gus O’Donnell anywhere near the banks.


  14. 17
    Gordon Brown says:

    I am The Dark Knight and I’m always Rising


  15. 18
    Sean says:

    Sir Micheal would rather lick the paint off on those Olympic lanes than apologies Gudio. I suggest you picket GroanHQ


  16. 20
    Anonymous says:

    Why oh why do the BBC show Maria Eagle on tv at a time when people are likely to be eating lunch.


    • 66
      Anonymous says:

      Did you hear her on today in parliament last week ? she is dire. She actuall said the PM should “calm down ” Dave saying that to her months ago obviously still rankles. I dont know why the electorate put up with morons like her. Oh wait, if they would vote for a monkey—-


  17. 21
    pissed off voter says:

    don’t hold your breath. White is, after all. a labour party spokesman


    • 75
      Business Cat (Specializing in yarns, Cdn owned & op) says:

      Wouldn’t a second, standalone (thus much harder to hack) email system only make sense? Just an offshore observer here…


  18. 22
    Bob Dixon says:

    Does lying rule out Gus O’Donnell from the Bank of England Govenorship?


  19. 24
    pissed off voter says:

    Has Michael been telling little white lies?


  20. 26
    Loungelizard says:

    Not the Gus O’Donnell who expects to slither effortlessly into that nice Mr King’s job at the Bank Of England. This is a man of the highest integrity, he would never lie…he’s a Lord of God’s sake!


    • 35
      jgm2 says:

      Gus O’Donnell getting Mervyn King’s job? The same Gus O’Donnell who sat through the madness of Blair and Brown without quitting and blowing the fucking whistle?

      Dave did well to get rid of him. Let’s not have him in a position where he can further cover up the economic sins of Labour. Particularly if Miliband and Balls get back in 2015. Appoint Fraser Nelson or that Niall Ferguson chap. Somebody who will at least stand up to the Labour imbecility (or quit in protest) if it is again unleashed.


  21. 28
    BBC Newsroom (Olympic negativity department) says:

    Listeners to 5 Live may have noticed a female reporter going totally off-message and gushing about the arrival at Heathrow of the “handsome Italian canoe team with their Armani bags”. This is totally contrary to the instruction that all BBC Olympic reporting must be negative and carping. The reporter has been identified and will be sent to Manchester for correctional training.


    • 39
      The Arse-end of no-where, and full of mongs says:

      Isn’t “sent to Manchester” punishment enough?


      • 43
        jgm2 says:

        Indeed. This shit weather we’ve been having for the last three months is causing most of the UK to lose the will to live but for Manchester it’s all quite normal.


    • 55
      Well it's a thought says:

      If you had said Salford for correct training then we could all agree, but sent to Manchester is a boozy enjoyable holiday.


      • 57
        jgm2 says:

        sent to Manchester is a boozy enjoyable holiday.

        Fucking hell. What kind of a shithole do you live in that would see Manchester as ‘boozy enjoyable holiday’?

        Fucking Scotland?


  22. 29
    Dai says:

    One has to earn one’s knighthood.


  23. 33
    Johnny says says:

    This is a problem of language. A computer with unfettered access to the internet so that people can use webmail services *isn’t* a second email system but those email accounts should have been turned over to the police. It threw the police off the trail and brought about plausible deniability.


    • 37
      jgm2 says:

      The ‘problem’ with language is that there are no questions yet invented no matter how outwardly unambiguous that cannot be ‘misinterpreted’ or ignored by a Labour politician.

      Labour are active enemies of the truth. Vacant Ned has got around the problem of outright lying about his policies by the simple expedient of having no policies. I guess he thinks this somehow makes him more credible.


    • 67
      Anonymous says:

      So will Levason now be able to access said accounts (please )


  24. 34
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Party manifestos are not subject to legitimate expectation, i.e., once we’re in power, you can discount everything we’ve ever said beforehand. So, it would seem, are official Government pronouncements, i.e., once we’re out of power, you can discount everything we’ve ever said beforehand.


  25. 40
    Umdinger says:

    I wouldn’t employ Micheal White to write my shopping list

    You would end up with a bag of turds from the dog poop bin every week


  26. 41
    jgm2 says:

    Shouldn’t the T*ries re-open the ‘cash for honours’ enquiry in the light of this new evidence?

    Get Blair et al up on the stand again and remind the voters just what a lying bunch of bastards Labour are.


  27. 47
    Brown Out and pay me damages says:

    No one apologises or takes responsibility for their mistakes. Disgraceful!


  28. 51
    Well it's a thought says:

    Thought the whitewash had long since dried on that , so the whitewash is starting to flake, Libor still don’t have a clue about buying decent whitewash at a decent price, pay top taxpayers money for cheap whitewash and look what happens it ‘s flaking already, just like Broontosser had no idea how to police the banks.


  29. 52
    Yvette Cooper says:

    I shall be asking an urgent question about security in the House today at 3.30 .

    The answer should be good for a laugh !!!!!


    • 60
      Mrs May says:

      and 7/7 didn’t happen on your watch then???? – Be careful, people in glasshouses and all that!!!


    • 78
      erm... says:

      stop being a judas….the army is on the case…..it’s time to close ranks and be loyal to your country….there are some things bigger than your job.


  30. 58
    The Wizard of Oz says:

    I wouldn’t get too sorry for Osborne. It’s not as if he will be going to the poor house or anything like that. I never could understand why he and Dave said they would match Labour spending.


    • 63
      jgm2 says:

      I never could understand why he and Dave said they would match Labour spending.

      Desperation. Every other interim T*ry leader – Hague, IDS, Howard had stood up every budget day and warned of the recklessness and madness of the Imbecile’s spending plans.

      Three election defeats on the trot and PR Dave decides, just as the wheels are coming off and the banks are in secret negotiations with the Treasury, that now would be a good time to pledge to match the madness.

      No wonder Brown looked so smug back in 2007/8. Just as every T*ry leader since Major was about to be proven right Cameron decides that in order to get elected he needs to pledge to be as reckless as Labour. Talk about miscalculations.

      If he’d said nothing he could have spend the last three years of the Imbecility giving it ‘I TOLD YOU SO!!!’.

      Instead of which he was forced to join Labour in blaming the banks instead of the Imbecile’s reckless spending. Which has now tied the T*ries to the ‘rich’ bankers rather than distancing them from the insane spending of Labour. What a monstrous tactical blunder.


  31. 64
    Another money grubbing FAT tùrd on the BBC says:



  32. 69
    Sir Michael White says:

    I’m sorry for you.


  33. 70
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Michael White is a shambles.


  34. 73

    Without honesty all you do is allow darkness places to hide and breed.


  35. 76
    Ian E says:

    It’s not that White owes Guido an apology, rather it is White’s mother and father that owe the world an apology!


  36. 79
    Jimmy says:

    You seem to have accidentally posted a 15 second snippet rather than the whole thing.

    You’re welcome.


  37. 80
    keredybretsa says:

    Excellent…super at the time. But surely you must have a few excellent…super revelations, for now, at this point in time!


  38. 81
    Cash for Honours says:

    So, if there is a secondary email system which has hitherto been denied and the man who led the cash for honours investigation has subsequently resigned over failure to properly investigate the motorman affair, is it not time that cash for honours was properly investigated – and perhaps change minds over the current second house squabble.


  39. 82
    Mr Gove A.K.A Pob says:

    wow……… you certainly made an utter cock of yourself on newsnight that night; seen it before but I’d forgotten just how embarrassing that was for you.


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