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Andrew Pierce on Ed Balls…
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magic_otter says:
is there anyone in the world that Tony hasnt screwed in some way?
Rubbish!
(had to say it)
Pickles won’t fit in that bin.
Take it out of councils and bring it under central government. There should be a national policy on rubbish and not local one.
What rubbish! We want more decisions taken locally and not imposed by central government. Why not give local voters a choice: weekly bin collections or a reduction in council tax.
@SP you ask ‘Why not give local voters a choice: weekly bin collections or a reduction in council tax’.
Here is a different thought – I have only ever had rising and rising council tax bills and diminishing services. So:
Why not give local voters a better service AND a reduction in council tax.
@Sparticus
I think it is wrong to say we have diminishing services from local authorities. The services provided have increased substantially over say the last fifty years. Whether we want all those services at our expense is a different matter.
The only hope we have of reducing council tax is to eliminate optional or unnecessary services and let the local taxpayers chose at the ballot box.
@ Sungit Patarse
What part of the Labour heartland do you live in??
Where I live we now have improved services such as
Local schools closed
Potholes everywhere
Bins emptied once a fortnight
Nearest police station now 11 miles away
Septic tank no longer emptied free of charge
And and and
ridiculous thing to say, householders are in so many different locational situations around the country it would be impossible to have a one size fits all waste collection policy…
Thatcher deregulated the BANKS so they could play on the international markets, and they did pretty well till the USA Banks sold them a load of worthless CDS. They are now all skint owing to the reported 40plus Trillion Dollars worth of Junk swashing around the international financial system.
Bliar has had us at WAR for 10 years, and the Knackers in Power today want to keep us at it. You couldn’t make it up. Every one can kiss good bye to their imaginary pensions. I mean, Cuts We dont have an economy the Political Class have F—-d it. Wake up and really see how bad it is.
I laugh every time I see these idiots wanting more jobs in the Public sector. How much do you think Osbourne is borrowing to pay their wages now with no return.
That is all we deserve for letting these knackers destroy the Private Sector
You came first , you can relax now you sad f*****
Now that’s what you call RECYCLING
Better hygiene and scrounger pilgrims get the bin. Everyone’s a winner.
Better still, leave the EU and defund DfID and use the money saved to abolish Council Tax altogether.
EU is not a big problem as you say; UK government waste more money then EU. But I go agree we need vote. Conservatives will never give you a vote how ever much you support them.
The clue is in the word ‘waste’.
So simple it hurts.
Are weekly collections really needed? We don’t have them in this part of the country. It is recycling one week and “rubbish” in the alternate week. It works fine.
Keep taking the tablets.
indeed
Labour council then?
Conservative. Swale. Outcry when the change was made. All well and good since.
That’s ok if your council collects brown/green glass, cardboard, plastic etc….many local councils don’t.
I think it all really hinges on if you have a big family or not.
Big family.
Pay for yourself.
bzzzzt.
What part of the world is that?
Cunstable in devon?
Swale area in Kent.
Fine if you have no sense of smell and like rats.
And bluebottles.
absolutely no evidence that fortnightly collections of general refuse increases rats or flies, so get your facts straight – food waste is best collected weekly though.
Come round my house 6 days after I forget to put the rubbish out, I’ll show you some flies.
It works fine until you go away on holiday. Go away a few days before rubbish collection, come back a few days after a rubbish collection and you can be waiting around a month for rubbish to be collected in the summer. And it really whiffs by the time it’s collected. This happened to me last year and this.
And before you say ask the neighbours, they’re away during summer school holidays too and, anyway, it’s not their responsibility to give councils a helping hand. Pickles is right.
Why not take it to a tip yourself the day before you go on holiday.
You are a troll here, right?
No
Yes you are.
Great if you don’t have a car.
When did anecdote become data?
“When did anecdote become data?”
When government funded ‘charities’ and pressure groups, were used to advise government on policy.
I think you’ll find that good policy-making is based on robust, statistically sound evidence… Bad policy-making is based on whims and the stubbornness to go ahead regardless of what the evidence suggests…
Want me to spell out which category this policy falls into?!
Good policy making, naturellement.
Fornightly rubbish works perfectly for me – wheelie bins plus bagging the food scraps = no mess, no smell, no flies, no rats. Other weeks alternately recycling paper, plastics, then garden waste.
Simples.
How much do you get paid to sort your waste and how much does recycling cost you? I guarantee, the answer to part one is nothing and the answer to part two is a lot.
Well, I bet you’d find out that you pay v little compared to the cost of waste collection and disposal (and I’m including the cost of recovering or recycling the waste as well as disposing of it).
What Archer Karcher seems to have forgotten is that with rights come responsibilities – including responsibility for your own actions and the impacts of your actions. Sounds like you feel as though you have a right to have everything for free, perhaps someone to come and clean your house and wipe your bum for you too…?
The fact that he expects his rubbish collected more than once a fortnight when he is forced to pay the Council God knows how many thousands of pounds a year (who knows, maybe thousands more than you?) does not mean he ‘thinks he has a right to have everything for free.’ I think you are confusing him with dole scroungers, illegal immigrants, students and everyone else in this country who think they ‘have a right’ to get their food, shelter and pocket-money from those of us who pay taxes.
So have I got this right then? Councils are going to use our money to deliver the services we actually pay them to run?
WEIRD. Not sure this is going to catch on.
They’ve obviously had a brainstorm. When they realise what they’ve done, expect the policy to be reversed.
Could you refrain from using the word brainstorm please Jack?
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/185204-dont-brainstorm-take-a-thought-shower
Oh you fucking beauty Pickles, eradicate these Trotskyist parasites Comrade!!!
I’m listening to Grant Schapps currently being hijacked by leftist filth on Radio Five Labour……. just why do the Torys bother appearing on the blatantly biased corporation?
Many a true word………
I knew leftist scum would have some use in the end
Recycle those useless fucks Pickles!!
Fuck off Wnstons you cu’nts
Hateful, evil Tories want to empty the bins do they?
Well what about Jim from Burnley whose son is a spacker? Answer that Tory filth!!!
Wtf should the councils be given extra money to collect rubbish on a weekly basis? The fuckers running the councils should be fined personally for not cutting seat polishers and pen pushers and providing weekly bin collections as standard services.
Agreed.
Agreed ….. and why are these Pilgrims paid such high salaries
Why not halve Councillors’ allowances while there is not weekly bin collections ?
And the previous Cabinet
Should we not be reducing our debt?
are we in denial?
Greece has just found out the same problem , reduce public workers who were already on the end of life list , is not going to reduce public spending, are we just doing the same?
stick to footy you caaant
” I never entered politics to cut anything” D. Cameron.
Councils take liberties anyway, many years ago they used to walk up your path, take your bin to the lorry, empty and bring the bin back to where they found it.
Now they wont collect unless its outside the gate and the rubbish is in the correct bins and not over flowing.
Thats why the c-unts dont get tips anymore.
Other reasons are: You don’t get the same crew each time, so no relationship
If you tape a tip to the bin, it’ll be nicked
There’s rarely anyone at home as everybody has to work just to exist.
Really outrageous of them to expect rubbish in the correct bins and not overflowing and bins way out at the kerb when they should be scraping our plates for us.
My bin man empties the bin and when I come in from work he even makes sure Mrs Boris has a smile on her weekly collection face.
Hah! Get rid of union reps and you’ll easily lose well over £250m from wildcat strikes where they would have simply negotiated the dispute out. Massive false economy.
Guido is, as usual, looking for excuses for why it’s okay for the Tories to spend money but still call himself a libertarian.
Yeah, right!
Without the union reps there to agitate things there wont be a dispute to warrant a wildcat strike you ignorant Oik
Wildcat strikes happen when you have aggressive union reps.
The Devil finds work for idle hands – if you have full-time union officials with no actual work to do, they will find something to do. They will also have an interest in advancing themselves by creating and exacerbating disputes.
Think of the wages that are not paid with strikes.
Sack the strikers, hire non-union replacements and pay minimum wages and employ on short term 10/11 week contracts.
Job done, money saved.
As for the strikers, as they’ve deliberately made themselves unemployed, no benefits and welfare payments.
The situation you describe sounds very like a protection racket run for the benefit of the union reps.
Rather like the Mafia and the US unions, in fact.
Could you please explain further, as this sounds like a fantastic business model?
“…you’ll easily lose well over £250m from wildcat strikes…”
A good reason for more automation or moving your factory abroad.
The Dockland Light Rail doesn’t suffer from train driver’s strikes.
There were no union reps where I used to work and nobody there ever participated in a strike, wildcat or otherwise. Could there be some correlation?
don’t confuse correlation with causation… a common mistake.
The Google dictionary definition of “correlation” is:-
“A mutual relationship or connection between two or more things.”
I stand by what I said; we had no union reps and no strikes – could well be a connection.
No one is saying get rid of union reps. Just that the taxpayer should not pay for them.
A socialist solution to a socialist problem. Rather than giving incentives to those councils that do restore the weekly collections, he should be giving disincentives to those who don’t!
The answer is ratepayer staffed firing squads. Then extend it to taxpayer staffed firing squads to deal with the troughing politicos. Just a suggestion you understand.
Piano wire is cheaper and reusable.
i WOULD PREFER A mongfest consulation invlving my COMRADES that cost every body lts a penny after we go to foreighn plases to look at rubbish collection
We’re not a bunch of left wingers.
Bears don’t shit in the woods either.
Yea sorry, insults Left wingers.
Trotskyite/Marxist scumbags, demanding the Sovietisation of the UK.
Who’ll pay for my staff safaris to John Lewis and Wagamama?!
jane effin pilgrim
and why has it taken so long for this simple bit of ‘rithmetic to be arrived at?
Whilst we’re at it, why not make Union support for Labour MP’s illegal. We have had Prentiss and the other leaders telling MP’s that if they do not support the Unions in strikes and anti-coalition activities then their grants will dry up. Isnt this suborning a public office?, does not this smack of coercion?, wouldn’t either be illegal?.
Sorry, i can’t hear you, la la la la, not listening.
WE CAN’T HEAR EITHER< WE'RE SHOUTING AT THE EVIL TORIES.
Small change really; just think what could be done with the £13bn given away in foreign aid.
Or, scandalously, the £65bn wasted on the EU.
Is that a pork faced Unison fat cat?
This week I shall be a Tory.
Next week you’ll be His Tory…
Badum tish!
boltontory Andy Morgan
by Old_Holborn
Unions received £85.8 million of tax payers money during 2009/10, a rise of 14%. 2493 full time equivalent public sector employees. #cpc11
1 hour ago
Bleep! Wibble!
Scandalous, scandalous, scandalous. Proper Union representation is a democratic right and should be paid for by the State. They do it in Russia, it should be done here.
Well said Handy. Vladimir has told me to organise the girls for you on your next visit, and to tell you that you will soon be getting an email of statements he wants you to make on behalf of the Council of Europe. Nazdrovia.
Well it would work if all the pilgrims could be sacked. Sadly thats not going to happen. They will be reassigned to some unproductive non job where they will continue to cost us money and will no doubt carry on with their union activities.
If the union fees are saved on the rates (ie at Council level), then there is no need for Pickles to give £250m from Central Government to the Councils because they already have the saving.
Good. Nurse Pilgrim was giving my poem a bad ode.
Talking about waste. This party conference season means Parliament is not sitting, do the MPs still get full pay when they are not at conference and taking an early Autumn break?
They work(?) to University term times, they get a full grant and attendance is not necessary, the same with senior BBC management/presenters
You’re never more than 5 feet from a socialist …. err ….. rat.
This was in 2007. Anybody know whether the council rubbish gestapo has yet rivalled the TV licence-fee enforcers in giving little old ladies their come-uppances?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473071/33-000-fines-war-wheelie-bins.html
It is all rubbish
I can’t believe the incredible intelligence of the comments left on this website, from people who have really bothered to take time to find out the facts and consider all sides of the issue – well done!
LOl..
What a crock of shite.. The tories are so afraid of the labour movement that they have to indulge in under hand, daily mail relishing and grass roots masterbational fantasies by.. You guessed it union bashing..
Nevermind what goes around comes around.
When your back is turned we will “rip you to shreds”.. Not literally of course.
!-)