Backbench Business Committee Bites Back
Guido broke the news yesterday that the government e-Petitions that have crossed the threshold of 100,000 signatures, so far, will not be debated until well after the conference season. Well it seems the Committee overseeing the project are trying to shift the blame for the delay:
- The Government is responsible for giving time to the Backbench Business Committee, and the time available to us is very limited – less than one day a fortnight. The Government has not provided any additional time to debate e-petitions and our existing limited supply is already oversubscribed.
- The Committee has no power to schedule debates unless some Members of Parliament come forward to tell us that they wish to take part in them. However the Government has not provided any way to link petitions to Members of Parliament who wish to sponsor them on the e-petitions site, or any advice to petitioners on what they might need to do. Unfortunately, this means that no Members of Parliament have yet come to ask us for a debate on an e-petition.
The same government denied these e-Petitions were cosmetic…
Another Tory broken promise.
Is that you Luke
the pair of you need your heads banging together
the e-petitions scam has been deliberately set up to entertain the masses and amuse politicians – they were never and will never be debated – this country is not a democracy it’s an authoritarian police state (neofascist sylii)
Can’t disagree given the evidence of total indifference to what the public think by the people who claim to represent the public. If not even a single one of these MPs will speak for the public, it is time to get rid of the lot of them.
Not Luke! I think it’s Enid Blyton from the comment & name!
@JumbleJim
http://whoseideawasthis.typepad.com/whoseideawasthis/
Hanging Chads in Forida
Another demonstration of the complete contempt that the Westminster scum bags have for the people of this country.
The difference between the current petition site and Blair/Browns’ one was that previously it was more of a ‘petition the PM’ site, whereas now it’s ‘petition Parliament’.
IMO the problem is the ossified Parliamentary procedure that hasn’t been updated to reflect direct peoples’ power. Until it is, the e-petitions will be little more than a cyber-whitewashed wall to express dissent on.
it has never been the intention to accommodate ‘direct peoples’ power’ this is not a democracy FFS
I’d have thought ePetitions were most useful for the very subjects not in the interests of MPs to put forward, so if it’s going to need an MP sponsor to have one debate it they’re dead ducks. The system should enable these issues of public cocern to bypass the current process, which of course is against the personal interests of the system’s members. Game over.
I’ll sponsor anything, anytime
I think that’s a very poor idea.
You’ll be suggesting we don’t need 650 MPs next!
There will always be room for a proper Quangocrat in the new world order Bill. And your name is on the shortlist*.
*of one.
So they were promising debates/time that they couldnt deliver.
Does this committee also do things like sell tower bridge to american tourists?
Committee was promising nothing. The Government has been doing all the promising/spinning.
“overseeing the project”. They should have realised it hadn’t got the resources (odd term) and known it was cosmetic.
I don’t know why you’d bother splitting the difference between the commitee and the government. You aren’t on the committee are you?
And besides the EU would never allow it. Listen to the electorate…PAH! zer iss no such thing, zey don’t know what they want.
Cameron let his true colours show at PMQ’s today. Despite his posturing about the Lisbon treaty etc, his admission of support for all things Eurozone today shows he is a duplicious lying toe rag who talks the talk before an election but fails to deliver on his promises. UKIP next time!
Let them whinge on E-Petitions, but ignore the feral class of English whites. It will make them keep quiet for a while, before the rebellion begins against the upper class politicians, denying the rights & views of the people and striving towards the New World Order at any cost. The people will rise up with force & riots very soon. What do the police/army do then to the people who pay them?
It might happen sooner than you think, especially if the M*slims decide the Minarchism branch of Libertarianism is the way forward.
http://www.examiner.com/muslim-in-san-francisco/ninth-century-muslim-anarchists
Listening to the people is a tiresome
business best avoided.
The first thing any new people’s government should do is bring back capital punishment for treason. The second thing is charge all of the MPs and Ex MPs still alive.
Peoples’ Courts to hear the treason trials. Don’t trust the judiciary, and as for the lawyers – the most common (previous?) profession for MP is Lawyer/solicitor – the ones in practice would probably give them an easy time out of professional courtesy.
This is what happens when you have a government of the rich for the rich.
It’s wot i’m entitled to
100% taxation. That’ll sort it all.
Still won’t be enough to pay for your plans
i would go further and seize thier assets that they have stolen from the poor.
What do you make of Blair’s 9 houses?
He is a Tory.
Gaddaffi told him that its dangerous to sleep at the same place more than one night in a row.
What do you make of the Lordships for Labour party Loans scandal.
PAying the money back would b4nkrupt the metastasis party.
The most able people tend to be wealthier than the thickos. Since most inherited wealth was eviscerated by post war Labour governments, the rich people these days mostly earned it themselves.
Given the choice of self-interested clever people and cattle like thickos (eg ex Union official MPs) I’d prefer the former.
Thank you for your kind support. You cheque is in the post.
I-turn?
Fuck em. There’s no point now we know Dave is fully signed up to europe, supports the European Parliament and the Euro.
As far as Dave is concerned we are just a province of the EUSSR. Parliament, the one at Westminster is just a local council in the european superstate and has no real powers. So what is the point of petitioning a government that has no powers to do anything really important.
Fuck Dave. Fuck his Government.
This government will only listen to you if you are rich.
BringBackGordonBrownAsPM
why? is he head?
Isn’t one of the muppets in the HoC calling themselves a Twitter Czar or King of the Digital Economy or summat? Why don’t they take responsibility for e-petitions? or is there a danger that things might actually get done around here? Tick tock, tick tock
Slightly OT but anyone heard more about Broon being dissed on that plane by footie fans?
He is dissed everywhere. Even his ‘friend’ and Chancellor diss him.
No but it was a good start. Just think of all the nasty things that will happen to him as the years slip by. You never know you might just get the chance to have a go yourself.
http://order-order.com/2011/08/25/brown-gets-the-celtic-treatment/
It’s just been another devious lie set up by u-turn Camoron. We shouldn’t be surprised. I only hope Labour is able to get a really good leader before the next election and see off the Bullingdon buffoon and his mendacious outfit of millionaires.
BringBackGordonBrownAsPM
Yes the left do tend to go into government to make money. Leaves them open to all sorts of sharp practice on the back of the tax payer as the last lot proved.
Some hope you’ve got!
After rusty Dave Camerons bare faced lies regarding the EU Lisbon Consti-Treaty did you really think he or his Heathite cabal were going to listen to you?
The words “Circus” and “Bread” come to mind!
If they didn’t take half the year off as holidays there might be a bit more time to debate issues that will actually engage the populace.
Here, here.
Tome for a recess, anyone?
I bet you all regret electing these right wing Nazis into government.
All right, all right.
Pretending to be a Labour twater just for the mischief making isn’t working.
Its more fun to go on Cif and say Nuclear Power is the answer to the energy crisis.
Give yourself a British Nuclear Fuels type moniker and watch the hippies explode.
Bastards. I said all along it is a con, epetitions. What else would it be. This is not Switzerland, unfortunately.
What did you expect from a Whitehall E petition? The Sydney Opera House Perhaps? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Herds of Wildebeasts majestically sweeping across the veldt?
Why you smak me across face Mr Fawtyy for my Otel E-petition commento, hijo de mil putas!.
I shagged your granddaughter, Manuel.
I’ll phone you and tell you about it later.
I thought that was very funny, (especially my bit) me and Russell and the rest of the lads were rolling about laughing ourselves silly in the BBC studio after that jape, that’s why I’m worth £6 million a year.
Jeezusss, even I could be edgy on £6 mil a year.
No doubt someone will do an e-petition for the government to honour e-petitions.
I promise to look into this E-petition mess just as soon as the debate on increasing MPs salary to be in line with Public sector chief execs is finalised.
So how many votes have you now Guido?
Why do think he got rid of the thumbs?, e-petition is so yesterday.
British manufacturing is not safe under Dave Camerons Conservatives.
His EU masters want trains built in Germany – so Dave meekly agrees & they are built in Germany.
When will the real Conservative Party oust this neo Heathite weakling? He could not win against McStalin – how the hell do you think he will win next time now that he is becoming universally despised – especially by grass roots Tories?
I bet you wish you had re-elected Gordon Brown and his fine team instead of super rich right wing Nazis.
You are utterly insane. Seek help.
He/she clearly has no faith in Ed Milimong as leader, so s/he can’t be *that* insane.
99,998, 99,999, there, I’ve done it! I’ve signed the petition 100,000 times. “Dear Parliament, Alistair Darling is a rotten swine and should be, I’ll think of something soon.”
How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is
To have a thankless child!
You can count?
Am I still the number one son, dad?
I am not responsible for the poo stripes in the hotel bed
But you are responsible for the poo stripes on the country’s balance sheet.
I diagnose gingervitus
OT
I said that the Graun would play the ‘just journalists doing their job’ card with Amelia Hill, as opposed to the evil baby eating News International hacks.
Low and behold…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/07/guardian-journalist-questioned-phone-hacking
The newspaper argued that the case could have lasting repercussions for the way journalists deal with police officers. The statement added: “On a broader point, journalists would no doubt be concerned if the police sought to criminalise conversations between off-record sources and reporters.”
They have collectively brought it upon themselves “circular firing squad”, the Guardian now screams for a blindfold.
i’m no fan of the guardian but if you can’t see the difference between bribing police men for information / hacking phones / putting senior policeman who are investigating your employees under 24 hour surveillance then you really have lost any sense of objectivity.
Well I believe you are indeed a fan of the Guardian and the shit hasn’t hit the fan yet as far as they are concerned, don’t give me the snow white bullshit, remember investigations are still ongoing.
Thiese E-petitions are just a “scam” to con the electorate into believing that their concerns as expressed via said website will be debated if the threshold of 100,000 signatures are exceeded.It’s all flannel ..nothing will happen…it was like yesterday “Dave” was bullshitting for all he was worth to the Liason Committee why the change to our treaty obligations regarding the closer union of eurozone members does not materially affect the UK(of course it does)and therefore there will be absolutely no need for a referendum.Equally he stated that the British public do NOT want a referendum on the UK membership of the EU(a lie that he repeated again to-day at PMQs) and finally that the British public are completely “relaxed”regarding the size of the UK Foreign Aid budget whilst seeing their own local services cut and front-line police numbers reduced(according to “Dave” this is of coursNOT happening ..so THAT’s alright then !!)
When will the British electorate realise that MPs, Parliament and Liberal elite(of which “Dave” is member) don’t give a flying fuck for their views until elections and then they feel perfectly comfortable to make all sorts of promises in their manifestoes which they have not the slightest intention of keeping pleading that events have moved on or that they did not actually “win” and in the case of “Dave” he seems perfectlyrelacxed” about allowing the LibDems who came third to actually decide the policies that the government will follow whilst his own party members wishes are ignored. As Mrs T said “It’s a funny old World !”
Shades of Blair,Brown, etc. We are listening …
Everything about the current government is cosmetic.
“the Government has not provided any way to link petitions to Members of Parliament who wish to sponsor them on the e-petitions site”
Why the hell can’t our MPs check the petitions website without the need to be contacted? Do none of these fucking people use Google, and if they do why do they have so little interest in what OUR petitions have to say?
And as for the pathetic backbench committee. OMG. Have these people not heard of email?
Hell, it doesn’t have to be email/web-based does it. There are just two petitions with more 100,000 signatures. How complicated can it be to get this in front of 650 MPS? These fusty old fuckers probably use pigeon holes. So print off the two petitions 650 times and distribute one to each MP.
Have I misunderstood the problem? Please someone put me straight if I have. Because from what I can see right now this looks like contemptible inexcusable fuckwittery.