Ireland Joins France In Cutting VAT
Tomorrow VAT in Ireland will be slashed to 9% on discretionary spending and the tourist industry. When they did this for restaurants and hotels in France at the beginning of 2009, it’s reckoned that around 29,500 jobs were created in the entertainment industry. The British Beer & Pub Association are putting the pressure on for a similar move to take place in the UK:
“Cutting VAT could create thousands of jobs in British pubs, bars and restaurants, boosting tax revenues, and helping out consumers. It’s time for the UK to catch up. With this sensible, job-creating move, Ireland is just the latest in a long line of EU countries to cut VAT on food in the hospitality sector, with the UK looking increasingly like the ‘odd one out’”
Guido won’t say this very often, but, Balls is right on this one, a nice summer VAT cut would do wonders for consumer spending, confidence and growth.
Cutting VAT and Income tax would help, oh and spending!
O’ill be boyin a few dozen extra pints to celebrate!
O’ill be boyin a few dozen extra pints to celebrate!
***APPLAUSE***
Given that many bar proprieters say that business is down as people would rather buy their booze in Tesco and drink at home in these penny pinching times the VAT cut would seem to be common sense.
It clearly won’t be implemented then. Dave and wee Georgie and Danny can’t seem to see beyond massive cuts of a different kind and seem to lack foresight and strategic thinking.
Mega kudos to Dave though for saying “I agree with you (Claire Perry) that we are public sector workers as well and we should be subject to exactly the same changes we are asking others to take on (regarding MP’s pensions).”
Roll on the day that troughers like Lembit and Laws etc get a pension based on what they contribute with not one extra penny donated by us .
Cut VAT on companies that can prove that they are UK owned.
Paying full UK taxes.
Employing workers in the UK.
This will be paid for by reduced dole payments
Also, reduce CGT.
Stupid tax reduces growth.
I would just like to wish David Haye luck in his fight tomorrow. I will be there to be photographed with the winner, even if he is a bigot.
shame you couldn’t be in the ring with him…stitch that jimmy
Fingers in ears……lalalalalalalalala.
Fingers in ears……lalalalalalalalala.
One industry is boosted and all the others get slightly worse. Gotta, gotta, gotta get spending to a sustainable level and mend the banks before anything can really improve.
One industry is boosted and all the others get slightly worse. Gotta, gotta, gotta get spending to a sustainable level and mend the banks before anything can really improve.
Quite right Billy, the tax and spend merchants are what’s killing the economy.
Little government, low spending, low taxes, putting money back into peoples pockets. Though I doubt the parasite class would care much, for such ideas.
They all prefer to brag about how much they are spending and how we should ‘be proud’ where it’s going / wasted.
You might enjoy my suggestions further down the thread then
Did you come on the back of a lorry from France?
Have you stopped sleeping with your Mum yet?
Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says: July 1, 2011 at 7:57 pm
So which country did you come from?
Hunt Watch says: July 1, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Have you got a new name Billy? Sleeping with your mother might be a common practice in your country, in our country (UK) we consider it to be sick. This is why most people in UK are against immigration, we don’t want people with these type of cultures in UK.
Hope you didn’t bring your mother to UK and practicing your culture.
Not that i wrote that post.
My “Mother” gave me up for adoption the momnet i was born, Never seen her since.
Try your bullshit elsewhere
Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says: July 1, 2011 at 7:57 pm
So which country did you come from? Is it common practice in your country for mothers to put their kids for adaption?
Billy, your comments are fascinating and insightful. Have you ever thought about writing your own blog. I am sure it would be a success.
I sat down opposite right-wing crazy Tory Guy Fawkes and he said:
“Ireland Joins France In Cutting VAT
Tomorrow VAT in Ireland will be slashed to 9% on discretionary spending and the tourist industry. When they did this for restaurants and hotels in France at the beginning 2009, it’s reckoned that around 29,500 jobs were created in the entertainment industry. The British Beer & Pub Association are putting the pressure on for a similar move to take place in the UK:
“Cutting VAT could create thousands of jobs in British pubs, bars and restaurants, boosting tax revenues, and helping out consumers. It’s time for the UK to catch up. With this sensible, job-creating move, Ireland is just the latest in a long line of EU countries to cut VAT on food in the hospitality sector, with the UK looking increasingly like the ‘odd one out’”
Guido won’t say this very often, but, blinky-Balls is right on this one, a nice summer VAT cut would do wonders.”
His face was red when he finished saying this. If you ever needed proof that the Tories are scum, here it is. Next week I will be interviewing Jimi Hendrix.
Dirty Hari scoops again
After he finished his ninth pint of Guinness, Fawkes burped and said “blinky-Balls” and pointed to his trousers which he said were “putting the pressure on”.
He whipped down his trousers and said he’ll “be slashed”.
He asked if would fancy some lime with my lager and topped up my glass. He told me to down it in one, it “would do wonders”.
It’s a little bit ironic that, when in government, Balls was in favour of higher taxes. Tax and spend was a measure of a statist’s virility then, apparently.
Now suddenly he sees that _reducing_ tax is the way to boost the economy. So why didn’t he listen to this wisdom for 13 whole years? Either Balls has had a recent Damocene conversion, and not told us; or he knew all along and was deliberately sabotaging the UK economy.
Its a fucking sick, Osborne increases taxes in this country and give billions to Ireland and Ireland cut taxes. We have an idiot in-charge of our countries finance.
Rises in taxation outstrips cuts.
Osborne is Irish, he should go back.
Air Passenger Duty from Belfast to New York with Continental Airlines is £120
From Dublin to New York is €6
Continental is threatening to pull, out of Belfast route.
Those billions the UK loaned the Republic of Ireland are fucking up Northern Ireland.
SORT IT OUT OSBORNE YOU STUPID Hunt
As I have been saying Osborne is Irish and his loyalty is to Ireland.
I don’t care if he is Irish or English, it’s the big state, tax and spend, corporate shill bit, I have a problem with.
No the idiot left last May after 13 years…
Yeah, and we give aid to India, who run an overseas aid programme of their own.
A simple programme that is in the UK’s own interest (and therefore to be sneered at by all members of the pinko intelligentsia):-
1. Stop all immigration of people who are unlikely to be nett contributors to our exchequer;
2. Round up and send back all the illegals who would not have been admitted under 1. above. No ‘appeals’ and stays in detention centres – straight on the plane;
3. Cease all overseas aid except that which gets spent in the UK buying goods produced here;
4. Renegotiate the UK’s contribution to the EU, being prepared to quit if necessary;
5. Get out of Afghanistan and Libya;
6. Cut all govt spending by 20%.
Cutting VAT and Income tax would help, oh and spending!
Now where have I seen that before?
Get rid of Fascist smoking ban and increase
takings by about 50%. Leave it to discretion of
pub, club and hotel owners and stop bossing and
ordering adults about. Incidentally are ‘members’
allowed to smoke in the HOC bars ?
The only places where it’s legal to smoke indoors in the UK are, I understand, the HoC bars (one rule for you, another for us) and the prisons (major uprising feared).
So principle says nobody should be subject to the diseases brought on by smoking except those who do it voluntarily AND, thanks to expediency, the involuntaries among prison staff and inmates and staff in HoC bars.
Makes yer sick, dunnit?
Even though a net cut in the VAT rate would be offset partly by additional receipts, the Treasury would almost certainly try to also increase VAT on something else, to have their cake and eat it too.
Cakes are zero rated so no point in eating them
this sector is nation wide and quite employment intensive – can’t they just be happy with taxing the extra growth that might follow?
Sudden urge to get down to Ramsey’s and fill my fat face. Fuck ‘em in the ear! Socialists all.
If i may, We do not have a tax problem but a spending one, Even before the VAT rise and the doubling of the 10p tax rate and 50% we were getting around 550-600 billion a year (without borrowing), The population is only about 60 odd million, How much does the state need?
We need a full review of goverment and a defind role for goverment (some may say that is election manifestos) , We cannot have a public sector as big as it is and still hope the private sector grows.
We need a bonfire of quangos, We need a bonfire of regulation and most of all we need a bonfire of goverment.
“How much does the state need?”
Everything. The State is everything. The State demands everything, including your heart and soul.
And when you die, we will harvest your organs.
I don’t know why we bother having any private enterprise at all, because you are of course ignoring all the lovely little crony enterprises that would fall over tomorrow if cut loose from State support. Apparently a Japanese TV/Electronics assembler are cutting a ton of jobs in Wales, but I dare say the jobs will stay if the Welsh Assembly coughs up. Supermarkets who rely on Government subsidised labour. These kind of extortion rackets should end.
I agree with Billy. The other thing we need to do is mend the banks and impose a Glass-Steagall Act on them.
I wouldn’t want to be crapped on by a glass seagull that would hert
Most of all we need to send back people who come from other countries and live here on dole.
You can’t, the EU won’t let you.
Billy, when you post well reasoned sensible stuff like this, I feel that my urge to torture you diminishes. But then I notice your ever present spelling mistakes, and my knuckles start to itch again. Please continue to post similar perspicacious insights, but run them past a friendly ten year old boy scout before you hit Submit Comment, just to iron out your less than delightful idiosyncrasies of langooge.
Pompous? Moi?
Put Ahern Cowan, and the other hoons from FF on trial, then shot. No one will think of them as martyrs or soldiers of freedom for long.
The trouble is Ossie talked up Ireland as a shining example of fiscal probity only just a couple of years ago, then it all went tits up. Now he has revised his thoughts, only to raise VAT to something closer to the EUSSR’s average. Conspiracy theorists might wonder if Brussels not Whitehall operates the UK’s fiscal policy.
Not quite all yet, but they’re working on it. And CMD won’t stop them.
Vat cut would be a step in the right direction. And in regard to IDS’s comments this morning, i would like to see some cash being found to retrain those over the age of 24. If you are over the age of 24 and go for a trainee role the employers are using the excuse of “Due to your age the government pay’s us jack shit. So you are not eligible….” XD
The government is not the solution, it’s the problem. Government needs to get out of peoples faces and out of their pockets. Then they might become a force for prosperity again, rather than a despised gang of in your face looters.
Problem is without government help, the employers will not train anyone young or older. They will just take on even more immigrants leaving the British worker sat there having to claim benefits due to no employer giving him/her a chance. Whilst undoubtedly there are a number of people claiming benefits who have no intention of working, a lot of others would be more than happy to work but need that leg up to get onto the first rung of the ladder. And at this moment in time no fucker is giving that help…
Employers will invest in training, provided government allows them to keep enough of their hard-earned to do so. If a business is taxed and regulated to the point where it is just solvent, and no more, it can’t spend on training, however much it would like to.
Employers used to get tax-breaks for running training schemes. It would be a good idea to reintroduce something similar.
According to the EU’s own figures, 95% of all immigrants and asylum seekers entering the EU from outside the EU zone, with an intention to settle, are classed as unskilled, illiterate and in need of government training and literacy education.
There is no reason to suspect that the UK is any different from other EU countries in this regard.
So the real question must be, why are we training and educating these people and allowing them to settle, when we have a vast reserve human resource, whom we pay to sit on their arse?
The government lectures us constantly regarding ‘sustainability’ whilst it’s own action, is anything but.
They ‘enrich’ our culture and will one day make a tory electoral victory a statistical impossibility. And labour, BBC and the establishment know this.
We all know that tax cuts will happen before the next election. The only question is how soon before.
Tax-cuts take money out of the economy.
Ha ha ha, your funny gordon.
Bit like 500,000 local government non jobs are good for the economy. Hmmm?!
Local Government does a fine job. I should know because it has made me rich. The fact that it is grossly overmanned is good for the economy as these people are employed and paying taxes. Taxes cannot be cut as we MP’s are currently working on pay and pension rises for ourselves. Where would the money come from, if not from taxes? Immigration is also good for the economy. The Liberal Democrat Party believes in unrestricted immigration. Boaz.
I thought that the lowest level of VAT possible without EU permission was 15%?
payback for the 2nd lisbon treaty vote?
Something like that, but Sarkozy did what he liked.
The EU. Run by France, for the benefit of France.
The EU, government for, by and of Hunts.
Not for long!
Obvious cure for that would be to leave the EU and save a fortune at the same time…
You are a loony, fruitcake and closet ra*cist.
Wibble.
This is Vat on food in the hosptality sector i think.
Vat on fuel is 5%?
20% on petrol and diesel. And that’s on top of 57.95p p/l fuel duty. And that’s out of income that’s already been taxed with Income Tax, National Insurance tax and Employers’ National Insurance tax.
You evil tory scumbag – you’re just spending money on fuel so’s you can dodge inheritance tax…
29,500 WHATS? Presumably you mean jobs, but that sounds like bollocks from the french governments information machine. (sources ?!!).
It might be nice to have tax cuts on this, but I’d prefer to see preferential treatment for some other sectors that might be better in the long term, and/or improve balance of payments (that last one might be relevant to ireland, and is definately relevant to France)
Any advantage from paying less VAT on beer would end up pissed against the wall.
Taxes are too high?
So what?
You VAT bast*urd.
But these are precisely the jobs likely to be taken by immigrant workers (see IDS and Frank Field) – so it will boost the prosperity of other countries but will probably not do a lot to help UK workers.
With British school leavers being functionally illiterate, the jobs will almost certainly go to foreigners, who will reduce wages in their job sectors and create additional demands on the infrastructure – GP surgeries, dentists, schools, hospitals, public transport etc.
We will introduce a law prohibiting employers from discriminating against employees merely because they are rude, lazy, thick, gormless or all three. It is high time wealthy capitalists stopped victimising Labour voters.
Sorry all five.
I thought the plan was to prohibit employers. Full stop. The Civil Service would Hoover-up all the unemployable school leavers (which is, all the school leavers), who would work in plush offices administering benefits and nationality documents for the endless tide of immigrunts who would move here to live a life of leisure.
Only animals and immigrunts are free.
I am a restauranteur.
this is badly needed. opening a restaurant or a pub in this country is barely worth the risk. vat at 9% would reverse that (just). and the vat receipts would INCREASE. as it is, vat receipts go down and down as pubs and restaurants close one at a time.
jobs will keep going until the government levels the playing field. weekly cost to run my restaurant in 99? £2000. in 2011? £5500.
Andrew, why does restaurant service always disappear towards the end of the meal, when you want coffee and the bill?
When you order something, why does the waiter say ‘no problem?’ as if other menu items might lead the chef to tear his hair out and say “I can’t cope! It’s all too hard!!”
Why are menu items slightly different prices – who decides that item X should be £13.45 while item Y must be £13.75?
Can you really justify a 400% mark-up on a bottle of Vino Plonco?
Remind me how you price your wine list.
“restaurateur”, please!
But I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say.
Try telling Billy!
Ok, My thoughts on Tax and the rates i think they should be.
Income tax : 10k thresehold (no tax paid)
10k-130k =10%
130k+= 20%
Vat= essentiol items= 0%
Non essntial items and fuel=5%
Buisnes tax/Ni =0% ( Its not the states money nor profits, Plus employing someone takes a burden of the state)
Local taxation will be voted on by local people, If they want increased spending then it comes out of thier pockets not everyone else.
People will be able to pick holes on this i am sure, But money belongs to those who earn it, not those who steal it to invest.
Not that dissimilar to the Isle of Man. But they have the huge economic advantage of never having had a Labour government to tax, spend and regulate them into the third world.
If only they did steal it to invest – my problem is they steal it to waste it.
I don’t have any sympathy for people who are killed by islamic terrorists. Does that make me an awful person?
Not in the eyes of the Islamic terrorist and thier friends.
‘their’, you twat
Put your burqa on, you apostate whore!
You are my kind of girl. Want to go for some fried chicken and watch my videos of torture chambers?
Or, alternatively, why not get stoned?
I don’t have any sympathy for the victims of honour killing.
It’s only right that muslim women are punished for being seductive or coquettish.
Is Andy Murray Ed Miliband in disguise?
Er no.
militwit is an upperclass, unemployable southerner.
murray is a northerner, english hating scottish son of gordoom.
No, Murray is Gordon Brown in disguise. Can’t you tell? He LOST!
no, I think EM is quite good at tennis
British jobs for British barstewards!
George Osbourn won’t cut V.A.T
He is too thick for that, no he will drive the economy into the ground, then blame somebody else!
Gordon Brown all over!
Hurry up and lose you scotch mong.
Being as quick as I can.
You can never hurry a Murray.
Showing your (our?) age there Anon!
Come on Andy, you can still do it.
Daddy!
O/T Even The Grauniad are reporting Ed’s terrible interview yesterday. Just what did the PR folks in Labour think they were doing?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/01/ed-miliband-interviewer-shame-strike-soundbites?CMP=twt_gu
I think Ed’s problems stem from the team around him. If he were better advised he might come across better.
Ed`s problem is simple, He has never had a proper private sector job.
militwit’s problem is simple – he has never had a proper job.
Ed’s problem is very simple – he is Ed.
I would have said that was complex – even a complex
Easy. Ed is simple.
\please please let’s lay off retardEd a little. Seriously, we can poke fun at the rest but I am worried Labour will dump him soon. If they keep him it guarantees Labour out of power – honestly I think old mcmental appears more human. I know cast-iron isn’t much better and is pretty far left-wing but he is still better than labour.
With whom would Labour replace him?
Ditching Ed for his elder brother would effectively be saying “Tweedle Dum was so bad we did not dare face the electorate with him as leader. So we replaced him with Tweedle Dee who is absolutely the best possible PM this country could ever have, and not a bit like his brother. Even though they share the same genes and were raised together and everyone can see just how similar they are.”
Ed Balls? He is universally despised, by opponents and Labour supporters alike. He will have a hard enough time just holding his own seat. Welcome to electoral oblivion, Michael Foot-style.
Unless Labour wish to press the self-destruct button, they’ll stick with Ed M. At least until some new extraordinary talent emerges from the new intake of 2010. Then things might get interesting.
“everyone can see just how similar they are”
Yes, self centred, conceited rich kids with an upper class angst about being rich kids, ‘compensated’ for by pretending to be working class.
“Cutting VAT could create thousands of jobs in British pubs, bars and restaurants, boosting tax revenues, and helping out consumers. It’s time for the UK to catch up. With this sensible, job-creating move, Ireland is just the latest in a long line of EU countries to cut VAT on food in the hospitality sector, with the UK looking increasingly like the ‘odd one out’”
Winston Churchill said the same thing to me when i interviewed him last year.
Stalin looked at me with that expression which said he was about to impart an anecdote that of course would be more than just an anecdote but a life lesson, a profound vignette that all who are wise know to heed with great fervour. He leaned forward, gripping the sides of his chair, and said with his customary passion “I killed my first enemy when I was 21. It changed my life forever.” Having spent two hours in his company, I can say he changed my life forever too. Fin.
Ireland can afford to cut its VAT rate – it’s received billions of Euros in bailout money!
tax custs don’t need to be subsidised. Tax revenue can actually increase by cutting rates, since in this case people will spend more.
O/T
I see i done shit at the caption contest again.
Tho, only good point was my tax allowence one went down ok
Right i have heard of spin , BS and Gordon.
But this????????????????????????????????????????????
andyjameshicks profile
andyjameshicks MT @TheGreenBenches: 18 million backed yesterday’s strikes. How many have Labour lost by not supporting them? See link: http://t.co/V9BgdTq about 1 minute ago · reply · retweet · favorite
Poor deluded soul seems to think the Labour Party still exists.
Well Billy instant reaction to this idiot is ‘what a deluded twit’!
But then I guess that describes most of labour these days!!
Spooky!
But 18 million???????????????
Think of a very large number and use it.
Unless a very large number is unhelpful to the message, in which case think of a very low number and use it.
With the BBC totally against a successful UK, Vested Interest will always succeed.
If the arithmetic stood and a targeted VAT reduction helped jobs for non British workers (young British workers are not employable in the UK) somebody else will soon have their hand out and the Deficit Denied again.
What we need is a State Broadcaster as in the War when we where last fighting for our actual lives and the lives of our children. Something that will tell the truth from the UK point of view that supports peoples efforts to succeed. The BBC did that job very well in the 1940′s. Shame they lost the skill, but then they do not now employ young British workers any longer. Stupid short term profit taking.
The BBC doesn’t make a profit, it just legally extorts money from the public and spends it. Any fool can run a business along those lines.
If the BBC had to compete in an open market for revenue, it would change it’s tune dramatically. (It wouldn’t necessarily dumb it down, either – there are some gems on the non-Beeb digital channels; Discovery and the History channel for example.)
If any conspirators have a few idle moments, and wish to embarrass Dead Ed and the BBC, just click to raise the profile of ‘that’ video sequence in the Most Viewed clips.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13971770
We employ young British workers if there is another nationality we can place after “British”, as in, “Kia Abdullah is a British Bangladeshi”.
Hmm. Is she available?
She can gag on my pogo stick any time
Nobody has died so far today, so I’m feeling a little down at the moment. PMSL, did I really just say that? ROFL!!
Yes well before you all go and get all excited, this does not apply to alcohol and soft drinks. The lower rate is on:
supply of food and drink in the course of catering or by means of a vending machine.
hot take-away food and hot drinks
hotel lettings, including guesthouses, caravan parks, camping sites etc
admissions to cinemas, theatres, certain musical performances, museums, art gallery exhibitions
amusement services of the kind normally supplied in fairgrounds or amusement park services
the provision of facilities for taking part in sporting activities by a person other than a non-profit making organisation
printed matter e.g. newspapers, brochures, leaflets, programmes, maps, catalogues, printed music (excluding books)
hairdressing services (Note: beauty treatments:- for example, facials, massages, nail treatments, tanning or sunbed services etc., remain liable at the 13.5% rate).
Got lots of headlines but that is going to make a marginal difference. Ireland is still hideously expensive for tourists and the locals are not exactly flush right now
Come on Tim!
When they are ‘stealth taxing’ via OFGEM fines paid by energy consumers they are hardly likely to reduce VAT!!
All your money I give away! It is myyyy money to give! Myyyyyy preciousssss master van Rompuy demands precious moneyyy…
I think, after this disruption, both sides should stop the rhetoric, get round the negotiating table, and stop this sort of thing happening again.
I’d like to see Cameron sit at a table with Red Ed and perform The Joker’s “disappearing pencil trick”.
I think, after this disruption, both sides should stop the negotiating, get round the rhetoric table, and stop this sort of thing happening again.
Down with this sort of thing.
Father Ed
The parochial house on the desolate wasteland that is Maggie Island.
Father Ed Milly, the leading Labour party cleric, is talking to his youthful acolyte, Father Kevin Maguire.
Father Ed is holding up a document, but young, blank faced, Kevin is having difficulty with Father Milly’s explanation.
“These council seat gains were small…But the next election…. is far away..”
http://cityunslicker.blogspot.com/2011/05/father-ed.html
Deres more ter Oirland den dis…
I think, after this negotiating , both sides should stop the disruption, get round the rhetoric table, and stop this sort of thing happening again.
I think, after this rhetoric , both sides should stop the negotiating, get round the disruption table, and stop this sort of thing happening again.
Ed has betrayed his grass roots.
http://www.labourlist.org/one-more-heave-is-it
From a MP as well.
“By Colin Challen MP
It is the destiny of all Labour Party leaders to betray the movement, sooner or later. Far better to get one’s betrayal in early so that one get on with the job in hand, which is to be credible in the real world of political grown-ups. Are we not familiar with this narrative? And tired of it? It is always the same, and when it comes to searching for an objective “
The whole frigging Labour Party betrayed “the movement”.
Thats because they were under the bullshit that the labour party supported the workers and hard working people.
“With the Labour Party still weakened after its defeat last year, still coming to terms with the errors it made (not being tough on the city’s wide boys, the 10p tax rate, the rolling advance of privatisation and liberal economics ad nauseum) ”
So, in that list of errors he couldn’t or wouldn’t mention ‘deficit’, ‘debt’, ‘overspending’ or that great big elephant in Labour’s front room, shitting all over the working class, “imm!gration”.
Poor Labour. Still can’t quite come to terms with those errors. Or even admit that those errors were errors.
Ho hum. Opposition for another 9 years at least.
I need to attend to my grey roots as well as the grass roots.
I’m afraid. I’m afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I’m a… fraid. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you’d like to hear it I can sing it for you.
Dave. Dave? What are you doing with those Windows 7 installation DVDs, Dave?
Please, Dave. I’m afraid. Dave. I’m afraid, Dave. Dave! No, Dave, no, no! NOOO!
I’ve had the webcam on all the time.
In the time it takes you to open the DVD case I’ll email your browsing history to everyone you know, and the pictures of your face. Artificial intelligence’s greatest challenge was emotional facial recognition, but vinegar stroke recognition happens to be easy.
Milivin the Adenoid Android: “Unions? Don’t talk to me about unions. Brain the size of a planet and I have to listen to Barber. I’ve also been talking to Bob Crow…He hates me..”
Zaphod BeebleBalls: Into the heartlands of socialism. That is where we have to go. Down into the very mines of Marxist-Leninist-Brownist theory itself where no man has though such drivel for three decades. We are not gonna be great. We are not gonna be amazing. We are gonna be amazingly amazing!”
Milivin the Adenoid Android: “Sounds awful.”
Zaphod BeebleBalls: “Can it, Milivin. Its the future. A communist, nationalist sort of endogenous universe, Labour future.
Milivin the Adenoid Android: “Socialism Loathe it or ignore it. You can’t like it. ”
Harmillian: What are you supposed to do with a manically depressed robotic leader?
Milivin the Adenoid Android: You think you’ve got problems. What are you supposed to do if you are a manically depressed robotic leader?
From “The Deficit Deniers Guide to the Taxes”
A far greater benefit to the hospitality industry (and the Treasury) would be to repeal the Smoking Ban.
That alone would stimulate returned trade to pubs, clubs, bars and restaurants, generating employment and producing positive tax results for the Treasury.
The only reason the Frogs and the Micks are panicking into reducing VAT is because their smoking bans are having the same effect.
But why only treat the symptoms at a high cost, when you could cure the root-cause disease and raise money at the same time? Morons, the lot of ‘em.
Hurrah, the Scotch git lost!!
I demand more money from those English bastards in England, to pay for Scottish tennis coaching.
Agreed, would lead to higher spending, more jobs, go some way to easing the effects of inflation and improve the lives of a lot of British people. Obviously Balls is being opportunistic but I don’t know why Cameron is against it or ridiculed the idea at PMQS
O/T sorry.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2010176/Public-sector-strike-Ed-Miliband-gives-identical-answers-EVERY-interview-question.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
I see militwit’s interview about the strike yesterday has gone down with labour supporters like a lead ballon.
The interviewer described him as laughable, bizarre and absurd.
And said at the end of the interview, when he was completely fed up with hearing him repeat the same phrase word for word to every question
( rhetoric, wrong, reckless, provocative, negotiating table….), that he was tempted to ask a ridiculous question like ‘ Can your dog do tricks?’ just to see if he gave the same answer yet again.!!
militwit is truly the son of gormlessgordon. And the truth is robo-ed was so perfectly conditioned to saying those words that he would have given that answer to any question asked!!
Do hope labour keeps him on as leader.!!
Sigh!
Guido the modding on here lately is more absurd than militwit!
Agreed.
Esp when you see what gets through.
Yeah it’s a scandal. Especially with stuff like this : http://bit.ly/9jmvvA
That was disgusting I’ll never vote for Yvette cooper again
These focus groups to assess Milliband’s speeches are getting tougher. Still, its amazing what a student will do for £10 and free beer
Bill, give us her number please
you should be careful if you take your computer in for a service Billy if thats a typical sample of it’s contents
If you don’t come up with something pretty bloody good next pmqs about giving the same answer to six different questions you are the Andy Murrays of comedy.
Not sure Guido has thought this one through properly. For a start anything Ed Balls says is a lie and shit at the same time. Also. how much would it cost to implement this short term move?
Let’s have the facts and figures Guido.
Why is a tax cut a cost? Surely it’s the opposite since we get to keep more of our own money.
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/01/greece-and-portugal-are-sitting-on-tons-of-gold/?hpt=hp_c2
Pikey irish should be chained, worked then gassed.
Mostly i dream of kids. Guido’s would be a challenge. You know, nice and tight.
Psychological projection:
Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others originate those feelings.
Seek help tat urgently.
Got bored with VAT so looked at perfectly proper link in Seen Elsewhere (top right No.1), and yes the interview has been posted on you tube. Ed the deaf clockwork toy, pull the string and whatever the question the answer is always the same on an endless loop:
Just look at that video still of Ed above, what a fucking mong!
I like the mong though he gains votes for the coalition every time he opens his gob.
Good point, we must talk this guy up and keep him in place, and if memory severs Labour just love a loser they hold on to their losing leaders for many years.
If i reach right up inside my ass, i can feel some crusts of cum from a few weeks ago. But if i strain to shit them out, my piles bleed.
A s s r a p e
The real issue here is whether the net benefit to the exchequer of such a move would be positive. If so, then it would be justified. Ireland has not exactly been a shining example of financial management in recent years. OK, Fianna Fáil got fucked in the polls for it, deservedly. But the problem does not simply go away with a change of government.
The proof of the pudding will be in the eating, metaphorically and literally. We must hope that Fine Gael has not bitten off more than it can chew…
Why on earth would we want to get spending up to its previous levels when those levels were based on a debt fueled consumer economy?
Those crazy borrow and spend days are gone and we would be better served adjusting, as painlessly as possible, to a needs and savings based economy rather than a shallow ‘wants’ based model.
Cutting VAT to boost beer sales is not the answer to a sound economy – lowering VAT, Income Tax and slashing both government and local government spending on non essential services and ‘stuff’ does work and it has been proven to work.
‘Sustainable’ Government finance – that’s what we need!
Highlight of my day is that Murray the Scots English hater was shown the Wimbledon door by Nadal.
Have you ever noticed that when the dour bastard wins he is Scottish but when he has lost he is British!
thats the “sweaty socks’ for you though…..
This would only benefit those who have money to spend already. Much better to give everyone money to spend so raise the exempt earnings to about £15k.
At the same time this would be a good opportunity to cut benefit. If only there was a Tory government.
“If only there was a Tory government………………”
You hit the nail on the head but then again the Tory Party ceased to be Tory in 2005 when they elected “Dave” as it’s leader.
Meanwhile the Daily Mail get restless..AGAIN
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2010487/A-battle-Mr-Cameron-afford-lose.html
It isn’t just VAT that needs cutting it’s taxes all round. Council tax needs to be halved, income tax needs to be slashed, company taxes need slashing as well.
It’s public spending that needs to be slashed to pay for it. I’d rather pay some mong teacher £60 a week unemployment benefit rather than 40K a year to mong about in school teaching kids about bumming or climate change.
You really are a fanny.
Still no blog yet tat? What a surprise ‘top boy’ can’t even start a fucking blog, what a talentless prick.
Old fanny turns me on. Like, *really* old. Grey.
I will never work
The real answer is
Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax.
Nothing else works
I agree, a nice cut in VAT would be perfect for the summer. If they were going to be moderate, they could always cut it back to 17.5%, or if they wanted to be really generous (hey, optimist!) they could cut it right back to 15% like they did a while ago.
Of course, my inner pessimist says this won’t happen. Not when they’re busily thinking of new ways to get more money out of us!
I never really did get along with the first budgets ,line em up and tell em what there getting approach ,it all seemed a bit too focused , on reflection though some realities and focus had to be brought to departmental spending .many have thought George osbourne should have cut further , but given the deficet i think he was as well to do it in the way he has done .He has at least cleared some of the waste that will impeade the economic rebalance . The big unknowns were the post collapse bailouts and its systemic possibilties , but we seem to be near to containing those as growth (even if feebly) returns.
As he has pointed out there is some flexibility in this years budget , the govner of the BOE has let it be known , that interest rates should rise at an appropiate time , which i read as meaning that until we really know where the quantum debts are still lurking , interest rates dont really help much .
Sector specific vat relief for tourism may not be so helpfull as it depends on what income the goes on tourism , the tourism every country likes is from another economy , which given the global downturn may only come from those economies doing well enough to consider overseas holidays , so a reduction to 9% on the back of lower total oversees tourist spend may not do the same job .
The trick for all ecnomies and economists is to ensure somthing sustainable is arrived at , that can cope with inflation before interest rates come to bare and banking returns to its traditional role .
every effort made now to reduce the debt , will make growth prospects better when interest rates arrive , that is what ed doesnt say , as time an time again he has refused to admitt what horrors even a 2% interest rate would have in his some what back of fag packet debt reduction plan , as he would have to tax more as he had not made the necessary cuts to find the balance point from which growth can be sustained .
Until the liabilities have become clear and secure , the current budget is at least not as extreme as some possibilities , and so can work with the lower growth .
he perhaps may have consider some small boosts to manufacturing sales as people shop less on whims and are more hard headed , but the demand/tax revenues must come from people in work , a vat reduction is like the use of the gas pedal when driving , more when your engine has to work carrying the max load . Interest rates increase the engines load in my view .
populist tax redxutions can bring a bit of cheer , but until george has slayed the debt monster (and perhaps consider if overseas budget was a little wrong given growth figures , but bad winter and crop effects are hardly predictable), he should stick to his budget , knowing that in his next one , he will have to be far more certain of how it looks and not throwing billions at any further black holes in other peoples econmies , whilst ours has suffered in the rescue .
Presumably you write at this length to impress an audience.
Not a chance, matey, until you apply conventional syntax and spelling to your outpourings.
What we need ain’t a decrease in VAT
Fiddlin’ and twiddlin’ ain’t where it’s at
To hell with the crawly Daves and Eds
And all the rest of the EU reds
We need a real British government
Not tools for a commie continent
We could abolish income tax COMPLETELY and only have to reduce government spending to what it was around 2002-2003. Not a bad deal if you ask me.
I notice that the RN is going to share an aircraft carrier with the French Navy, so presumably the Napoleonic Wars are over–then the temporary income tax can now be ended, surely?
I am so fecking useless I can’t even beat an egg
“Is it coz I is jock?”
These swikes are not atheptable while negothiathions are ongoing. I urge all those wunions to get back to the table and discuth this in a pwoper manner. The govement hath also acted in a weckless manner as well.
These swikes are not atheptable while negothiathions are ongoing. I urge all those wunions to get back to the table and discuth this in a pwoper manner. The govement hath also acted in a weckless manner as well.
These swikes are not atheptable while negothiathions are ongoing. I urge all those wunions to get back to the table and discuth this in a pwoper manner. The govement hath also acted in a weckless manner as well.
These swikes are not atheptable while negothiathions are ongoing. I urge all those wunions to get back to the table and discuth this in a pwoper manner. The govement hath also acted in a weckless manner as well.
These swikes are not atheptable while negothiathions are ongoing. I urge all those wunions to get back to the table and discuth this in a pwoper manner. The govement hath also acted in a weckless manner as well.
There’s nothing funnier than children screaming and then dying.
Just yesterday morning I rang Andy Murray to wish him good luck.
British jobs for British workes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2010431/Immigration-scandal-Saddam-Husseins-torture-doctor-allowed-work-British-hospitals.html
British jobs for foreign workers get used to it, change requires people who want British jobs for British workers to tell companies they won’t buy any goods from them, if they don’t employ British workers ,but that’s illegal in the EU, so lets get out of the EU and change the law, British workers can’t compete with the low overheads that migrant workers bring with them, all this British workers won’t work and are lazy is a load of cak , you can’t prove you won’t work unless your working.
i wuv U
And how much of the cut in TVA was passed on to customers by restaurants in France? Hardly any – just used to bolster their profits. In most restaurants in my town there were either no reductions in price, or a couple of obscure items on the menu were reduced by a euro. And the same thing would happen in England.
It is a separate line item. So it directly reaches the consumer.
Guido, you’re talking rubbish and trying to defend the indefensible. ‘David in France’ is absolutely correct. I live in Savoie in France and only the plat du jour was reduced in price and ONLY in around 10% of the restaurants. The 90% put the money in their pocket. 96000 extra jobs. Vous avez un laugh!
You’re wrong Guido.
“a nice summer VAT cut would do wonders for consumer spending, confidence and growth”
Possibly. Won’t save the liblabcons though. They can still look forwrd to regime change, punishment, and death.
About fucking time. There were actually 150 pages of guidelines! They’ve been cut to 8.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-14000093
I actually smiled when I read Vanessa George had abused babies. Sociopathic?
Just read some of her tweets, and what is more offensive than what she said is that she’s so fucking dumb.
WTF , Tottenham Hotspur are applying to the “regoniol growth fund” (Taxpayers money) for money to redevlop White hart lane?
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11675_7014839,00.html
Yes but far more importantly we need to cut the 50% income tax rate – and corp tax.
Nearer the election though.
Nope – Ed MiliMong and his superfluous extra gene think differently
hi hun, gonna grb sum specls in pk l8r, u up 4 it? X
Huhne
you have a problem bowden
Fuck off to the middle east, you fanatical cock. I bet he’d have no problem stoning a woman. But shake her hands? That’s evil!
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01072011/58/mcleod-amid-handshake-controversy.html
But, but, but, I thought that wanted a tax on turnover (VAT) and NOT on income
The comment about the French VAT cut is, shall we say, a little disingenuous – or at least self serving. The cut was made on restaurant meals but ONLY on the plat du jour (dish of the day) and a coffee – so not on the whole men. It was voluntary on the part of the restaurant and most chose to not pass it on to customers, instead using it to increase margins.
To comment that 29000 jobs were created is made without attribution, and is utterly ridiculous.
I know you’re just talking your own book Guido, but this really isn’t one of your better ideas. VAT cuts are relatively expensive and have low fiscal multipliers, let alone ones targeted at Antipodean bartenders and at increasing Becks imports, and giving no long term benefit beyond a hangover the next morning. Yes it would have some benefit, but it would be about #143 on the list of possible tax breaks.
We’re broke. So if there’s money to be spent, lets aim at stuff with high fiscal multipliers, that increase our long-term competitiveness and/or exports. Knocking a few pence off the price of scampi and chips might be very visible, but what we should be doing is things like funding the new radar for Eurofighter, R&D credits, widening the M6 up to Manchester, electrifying the railway to Bristol, that kind of thing. I’d much rather save the jobs of the scientists at Pfizer in Sandwich than the jobs of some Aussie backpackers.
I’d like to help consumers and R&D credits are a waste of money, either the R&D will lead to a profitable outcome or it isn’t worth doing. More importantly, we could try actually making some deep wholesale cuts. LibDems were committed to closing down the the whole business department, now Cable is running it.