Another One Bites the Dust
As the news emerges that The Telegraph is set to join the FT, News of the World and The Times behind the paywall, Guido is intrigued to why such a decision was made when all the evidence shows it’s not a winner. The Times has lost 95% of their online traffic, but the bad news doesn’t stop there. Since they introduced their pay-wall in June their paper sales have headed south as well:
Introducing a pay-wall was supposed to increase revenue by forcing people to buy the paper or subscribe online. Instead the decline of newspaper sales is unmitigated. There will be glum faces over in Victoria as it dawns on the hacks that soon nobody will be reading their work…
Crazy Fools !!!!
Not one of their links can be profitable any more. I bet shed loads of ad hit revenue came from people being sent direct links, from Google news hits too etc. This traffic has completely dried up. They are being totally ignore lol.
They are done.
Their paper sales may have headed south, but a pie chart of relative market share isn’t going to show that! Guido fail!
I have subscribed to The Times – I always used to buy and enjoy the ST, so I view the £8pm sub as being like buying the ST, with The Times thrown in for free.
Will probably also subscribe to the DT if te price is reasonable – it’s worth it to dtay infomed.
Now, if only we could make BBC Views Online disappear behind a paywall – it would spare people from the BBC’s malign brainwashing and show the commissars just how popular they aren’t.
Well you could click on the link which tabulates the sales…
The sales table shows contradictory results. With the exception of the FT, sales of all papers are down, pay-wall or not. The FT is behind a pay-wall and its sales are up. Maybe the pay-wall is not such a disincentive to sales after all and other factors play a greater role.
BBC Views online is already behind a mandatory paywall – it’s called the licence fee.
Baaaaasss, it looks laike weev gotta reedah !?!
Osama the Nazarene said:
“Maybe the pay-wall is not such a disincentive to sales after all and other factors play a greater role.”
Yes, the FT is more like Janes’ Defence (warmonger’s porn rag) in catering to a relatively small but extremely affluent audience already hooked on the product in expectation of a high ROI for the subscription.
However, for common oike-bumff like The Torygraf, which has no significant differentiator from ‘free’ content, the Paywall spells in religious terms the equivalent of a lecherous alehouse wench being banished to a nunnery.
Lean times and self-amusement with a cold wooden crucifix beckon for the DT’s semi-circular hacks. Fair dinkum.
Agreed – Readership will move to the Mail, Express or Guardian.
Ah, if only the licence fee could be scrapped.
I still can’t make my mind up why the BBC chose this week to reveal its allegations about the corrupt FIFA official determining the world cup bid. Was it to scupper the UK bid? Was it to force the official to vote for the UK? Or was it just another BBC fck up?
Lefty reporters and editors to continue with their brainwashing drivel. When are they going to adhere to the independent broadcasting policy and act within its mandate? When are these cuts to pensions etc going to happen? They have gone on strike and I am not clear why we have not been compensated for the the disrupted service.
It was done because reporters want to be the news. They want their name on the byline, they want to see their story in print or on the tele etc. They are insecure bastards who try and make up for it by showing how important they are. So what if England loses the world cup they have had their 15 mins of fame and can pontificate about how they reveal corruption and are above it all.
They and left wingers are similar they indulge their personal vanities and love of money while while hiding behind a “higher cause” and putting everyone else down
Crazy fools? Was that a Mr T impression, Billy?
Yeah , Was it any good ?
Not bad. Can you do one of KITT from Knight Rider? Child of 80′s TV, me.
Alas , No
Michael?
Slow down, Michael. Turn left at Rumbelows, Michael. Do you want me to massage your cheeks, Michael?
That’s a shame, I like reading the Telegraph Blogs. I’m not going to pay for them though.
And the Obits, ditto re payment.
I think that we’re all in this together.
I am in the shit. My job is no longer tenable.
Are you one of the cables that’s been exposed by Wikileaks?
I’ve never liked lord of the rings.
Mandelson?
You’re not one of the nutters who comments on them are you?
When was the last time their political editor blogged anything?
Wheres the SUN ?
Middle of the universe ?
errr … no.
middle of the galaxy…
Only one word out
galaxy is wrong too.
Its “solar system”.
Ok , But you got my drift
Snow here too Billy.
Solar System *cough*
usually between the Mirror and the Sport
Sources are reluctant to offer exclusives behind paywalls now as the stories won’t get any outside (i.e. Google) exposure.
By 0.5%?
The telegraphs sales also lost 0.4% market share, a change this small really isn’t note worthy.
24% to 23.5% ?
I know what Lord Young would say!
First rule of tabloid jounalism – never let the facts spoil a good story.
Looks like the paywalled FT’s sales have gone up a bit though
Oh and the Financial Times, also behind the pay wall has seen its share increase by 1%!
I saw that, -0.5% for the Times and +1% for the FT, not my idea of free fall.
The Telegraph is the new Daily Mail. The Daily Mail the New Express. The Times is the new Paul Raymond £ 1 a shot booth.
A man who speaks from experience
were you ever disturbed by that chhap with the mop and bucket at precisely the wrong moment?
It wasn’t a mop, believe me.
The Thunderer is only worth buying at weekends nowadays. The Telegraph is only interesting for it’s obituaries.
Why the fuck have you included ‘The Scotsman’…?
I’m still here.
As the news emerges that Guido Fawkes is set to join the FT, News of the World and The Times behind the paywall, The Telegraph is intrigued to why such a decision was made when all the evidence shows it’s not a winner. The Times have lost 95% of their online traffic, but the bad news doesn’t stop there. Since they introduced their paywall in June their paper sales have headed south as well:
What the fuck!
I read the on line Telegraph daily and comment a lot. I can do without the writing of idiots such as the communist Mary Riddel and the repeated protestations from conservative dignitaries who claim often that they are eurosceptics. The editing of the Telegraph is being done by illegal immigrants judging by its accuracy. So it will be bye bye DT from me.
“The editing of the Telegraph is being done by illegal immigrants “
You could be right. I thought there wasn’t anyone doing the editing at all or the editor was about 16 years old with a GCSE in woodwork, but I think you might have the answer.
I can’t believe they’re expecting people to pay to read it.
Their web page design is abysmal: many links do not work.
Hopefully I will be in a position to buy the paper soon – it’s useful for wrapping the contents of the cat’s litter tray.
Watcher, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. The problem with the dead tree press isn’t how its paid for but the content. All they do these days is cut-n-paste agency copy or govt press releases. Why would anybody pay for that, especially as we’ve already paid once for the latter?
Guido makes a reputed £50k per annum from his blog, working part-time. Surely this is the way forward for any aspiring jorno? Why slave for a pittance and let any profit go to the overpaid bosses who are more concerned about their ‘access’ to politicians? Disintermediation is the way of the future: diplomats, record company and newspaper owners, take note. Your monopoly is over.
I’m available for hire.
I need a target to zero my rifle.
Comradesth! I will be stupendousth at PMQsth tomorrow!
Fuck off Hunt.
Don’th be horribleth to me.
Hey, Ed, it’s gone half past four. Isn’t it time you had another re-launch?
Red Ed’s hero and master, McRuin himself, once again demonstrates world class negotiation and diplomacy skills:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8170195/WikiLeaks-Gordon-Browns-personal-plea-for-hacker-Gary-McKinnon-to-serve-sentence-in-Britain-rejected-by-US.html
What a hero, what a plonker.
Dave is a useless cun’t.
Which one? Miliband or Camer.. oh, don’t worry.
well as the police state that is london metropolitan area again goes OTT, and the right to protest is curtailed, and hundreds are held against their will by kettling coppers (pigs) – individual liberties are not of primary concern to the bastards at the met – you won’t be able to read about as the telegraph bites the dust … just what the fascist UK state requires
Strangely the fascist state you now complain so loudly of, was built assiduously by the Labour party over the last thirteen years. I do not recall your outrage during any part of it’s creation or any protests about the systematic removal of freedom by Labour, from anyone on the left.
No it’s more than 13 years. Tory traitors played their part as well.
And you protested when?
If you REALLY think that the UK is a fascist state you have no knowledge of history.
So, tell you what, fuck off back to the student bar and instead of whinging with your usual mates try and talk to a historian about the realities of life in Germany, Italy, Spain and Russia in the middle of th 20th century.
choking hazzard = man talk with false tongue
We don’t care!
One word: greed.
It’s a bit like when the plan was for banks to start charging customers of other banks to user their ATMs.
That didn’t last too long did it.
Bet the daily mail advertising staff are having a party today.
Yep, that’s Fred and Dave Bonkers for you.
Greed?
Agreed.
yep – like the Telegraph – but not enough to pay for it.. it’s only ever a starting point..
Can the Guardian put Polly behind a paywall ????
She can join Mrs Slater’s parrot.
And Mrs Slocombe’s pussy, and I’m unanimous in that.
In front of a fire-wall, complete with squad, would be better.
The Telegraph’s re-design is truly awful. The Daily Mail have got it nailed, both on content and design. I would pay £25.00 per anum for the Telegraph, I haven’t bothered to look at the Times since they started charging.
Agree about Daily mail , Nice , simple and easy to navigate .
Per anum? I object to paying per nasum.
Cui bono, mate.
Why does Billy Bowden want a final solution for me?
Because you are a Hunt
Are they crazy?
Mind you, it’ll be a relief not to read their schoolboy howlers.
I shall miss Alex and Matt though. I won’t pay for them.
I suppose I’ll have to look at the online Mail and the BBC (shudder).
The idea of reading the BBC’s website did cross my mind, for a fraction of a second.
Just say no!
Heading south, hardly. At half of one percent, even you must give them the benefit of the doubt. Typical Labour spin
My flange is behind a paywall. Just a tenner for bareback.
You’ll have to offer me a bit more than, Mags.
FIFA run the football world cup
Its members fill their pockets up
A dirty toilet just doesnt matter
When you have filth like Sepp Blatter
None of the innocence of Little Jack Horner
Just a fucking gangster called Jack Warner
The football world stands mute and comes to heel
while they contiunue to rip off and steal
England tell them where to stick the world cup
and I will go there personally to stick it up
You have to laugh at them really…poor sods
Its a fleet street “wet dream” harnessing the tinternet, controlling opinion and holding court on the Wibbly Wild Web and have some equally sad antique pay to read opinionated misinformation half truth and hyperbole designed to compliment their masters agenda rather than report hard fact.
Somebody ought to point out to them its not the 1950′s anymore, even my granny has moved on…
Who would pay for it?
Bryony Gordon’s parents, maybe, but I’d have thought they get a discounted subscription to the print edition.
So, no one.
I’d pay a pound to come on her tits.
why should i pay for something i cant wipe my arse on after i have read it?
Another career option for Geoff Hoon.
Great “Quote of the day”
Is there no rule to get rid of MP’s who fail to turn up ?
if the rest of us tried this we wouldn’t last a month let alone six months
i dont want to kick a man when he is down
but
Isnl’ it about time you fucked off you useless mental fuckin unelected has been retard ?
surely he is keeping someone out of a job who wants to represent his constituents
‘…see if some orientation might help ‘ ??? But we already know about his orientation.
He should be reduced to his constituent parts.
I want to kick his fucking head in. It’s always best to kick the fuckers when they are down, just make sure they don’t come back up again.
Richard says he wants me to try something called bukkake. But he won’t tell me what that is. Says he saw it in a documentary called In Diana Jones and the Temple of Poon.
Just close your eyes and think off your fat golds plated penison
while he has to close his eyes not to see your big fat arse, gut , and poonani
Think of ‘quattro formaggi’.
Here you are jackie this should explain it for you
it’s because your such a big fat ugly cow he wants do do it on you not in you !
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bukaki&defid=3068993
Some presentation problems here – the pie charts show market shares while the text is about sales.
Well, I’m doing my bit to keep pie sales up.
well spotted williy wad you are obviously not as thick as guido
Why ‘The Daily’ ipad newspaper is also doomed
http://gawker.com/5697754/why-the-ipad-newspaper-is-doomed
People don’t want informed opinions these days, they want snappy information, delivered quickly and easily. Give them the facts, they can then form their own opinion.
Blogs started it, Facebook formulated and Twitter has confirmed it.
That’s too long, can you boil it down?
Hehe,
A girl called Ashley in Massachusetts ” and doesn’t understand why she’s suddenly got 9,000 followers:
Welcome to last week…
Twitter is for twats .
Must be why Sara McMental is always on there
If she isnt licking one she is marrying one
looking at the fucking state of her nor do i
Bless
Americans are fuckin thick
my mother in law was in Florida talking to some yanks
one said where are you from
she said England
the yank said “Is that in Germany “?
Ring this number for gay sex
Top looking for bottom….
Me ! Me ! Me !
Someone ring him from skype and record it lol
I would like to “ring him”
Thanks TAT Business has never been so good
May I just say rhat I misunderstood the term “paypal” and thought it perfectly acceptable to pay my special “pal” with your money
I am not gay!
We here in Scotland, have seen the growth of online meida such as Newsnet Scotland, who are filling the vacum created by the MSM being totally owned by Labour or Murdoch. The BBC are the worst with their downright lies and blatant propaganda, they are a law unto them selves. The Internet has been a God send for Scotland and our independence movement.
http://newsnetscotland.com/
Well fuck of you ginger, incomprehensible, Scotchers.
DOH! = OFF
Come up here Engerlander, and say that, you will have your Hunt kicked in, you inbred chinless wank stain. But then you may like that sort of thing, most of you are fags and fuckwits. Now fuck the fuckity fuck of.
Well, at the risk of bringing opprobrium and derision upon my head, the end of free online content had to happen sometime. All the established Dead Tree Press have overheads and production costs, even if printing and distribution are ignored, so the online content would have to be paid for somehow. Advertising revenue is obviously one income stream, but it clearly isn’t enough or News International wouldn’t have put the Times behind a paywall.
All those jounalists’ expenses have to be recouped somehow. I don’t like the idea of paying, but as they say oop north, you never get summat for nowt. We’ve been lucky for a few years while they’ve got us hooked, now it’s reality time.
But you can get nowt for summat.
If you’re daft enough.
How much are you meant to pay for reading press releases and insane crap from twats like Mary Riddell and Geoffrey Lean?
We don’t know yet. Price it too high, and their readership will decline.
I weally, weally, weally do think the Wevolution is here! Students evvywhere are wevolting! I will wide to powwer on my young comwades showlders! I’m werry werry excited!
Shut it, Lightweight !! Your union bosses will tell you when it’s time to get excited.
5 x 1 > 100 x 0
Paying readership > cheapskate mongs
£5, £4, £3, £2, £1, gone.
So Guido, do you think that the Telegraph’s commentary on the Irish Enslaved State is a valid piece of journalism?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100008812/irelands-debt-servitude/
Journalism is the most discredited sport since boxing was given its totally undeserved professional status.
Have no fear for the future of our main stream journalists.
The establishment has spent many years and much effort polluting these idiots minds with muddled ideologically based thinking and so rejoice in the profoundly ignorant self-important opinions which stem from there efforts. Therefore the establishment will make certain that they are mostly ALL assured of a role in the mass media whether this happens to be predominately in the printed form or not.
Main Stream journalists don’t know much of any real important, and would not be allowed to tell the public even if they did. However they do know in which closet many of the skeletons are kept, which does give them a certain amount of annoyance value.
My guess is that they will be provided with even more time and space on the BBC, Sky TV and radio, to continue to inflict their unwitting disinformation, and vacuous opinions on the unsuspecting public.
Evil finds little more useful then a mind enslaved fool that genuinely believes that they are anything but. Thanks in no small part to them being subjected to a proper university so called education, more accurately, have undergone a full program of establishment inspired Indoctrination. Which perfectly sums up cretins such as W. Hutton and P. Toynbee, along with all of the rest that have never had a proper job during their entire professional lives, especially one in any way connected to the subjects they so liberally pontificate about.
Worry not for the interests of journalists, their future is completely assured Guido very much included. It would be nice if I could say the same for most of the rest of us.
Now that the Daily Express has come out with their campaign to get us out of the EU, none of the other papers have any value. The DT is full of faux-Eurosceptics now, just to keep the gullible from fleeing the conservative party. As we dip into the deficit to bail out each EU troughing country, one after another, these people become less and less relevant (other than for their treachery).
CALLING ALL SCOTTISH PATRIOTS.
The British government have, by insulting us, granted the opportunity for us to vote for independence in May 2011. Their insulting referendum for AV for the British parliament on the same day as our Scottish elections, whilst denying Scots a referendum to vote for Scottish Indpendence has gifted us the chance to VOTE FOR INDEPENDENCE AT WESTMINSTERS EXPENSE.
This at a time when Wales has been granted a referendum, on their constitution, and now we see a Royal wedding one week before our elections, which is guaranteed to wipe Scottish politics of the meida. This would never have been contemplated one week before the UK elections. It is an insult to far.
SIMPLY WRITE “INDEPENDENCE” ON THE AV BALLOT PAPER. A PROTEST VOTE, WHICH WILL GIVE US THE VOICE, WE DESIRE.
SPOIL THE AV VOTE.
VOTE INDEPENDENCE IN MAY 20011.
http://tinyurl.com/2vz3nbr
That would be 5th of May. 2011
“Scottish Politics” – surely an oxymoron.
I think your pathetic attempt at sarcasm has failed miserably. It is certainly a trendy and hip little word but as in your example often misused, and only serves to highlight the ignorance of the user. Perhaps strong drink has been taken.
Perhaps if you Google “deep Fried Mars Bar” or “Braveheart” you will have better luck.
Pip pip.
Braveheart – now there’s a real shitter of a film.
I haven’t missed the Times and I won’t miss the Telegraph!
Honestly, nobody around here gives a fuck about Scotland.
Do you really imagine anyone gives a fuck what you think you sad tosser.
Are you the union rep for the forum then cockbreath?
Not entirely surprising the Times site is going nowhere when one person from an office can sign up then just pass their user name and password to every single person they work with who can then pass it on to every single person they know in the whole world and so on and so on. We’ve been using one account for weeks now…
Presumably all the times people have to do is disconnect any account being used on two computers simultaneously?
I AGREE WITH TILLY NEXT DOOR
As I already pay a subscription does this mean that I will have to pay twice ?
Oops wrong place initially.
I haven’t missed the Times and I won’t miss the Telegraph!
On a positive note, the more the fuckwit liblabcons isolate themselves from reality the easier will be the coming regime change, and the greater the pain of those bastards when they are arrested and punished.
I never read the telegraph anyway…