Queen’s Speech
Guido is a bit surprised that not a word was mentioned about the Kelly proposals to clean up and reform parliament. Nick Clegg is right, they should have concentrated on this because most of the legislation proposed is merely an attempt to draw out dividing lines and trap the Tories. The Tories are unlikely to fall for any of this, so the most practical thing that an honourable government could have done is clean up parliament and implement the Kelly reforms before the general election. Both Clegg and Cameron have said their parties would support the Kelly package. On the whole the feeling around Westminster was very “is that all there is?”
Andrew Lansley and Theresa May will be holding a press conference first thing tomorrow morning to launch the Conservative Party’s campaign against Labour’s plans to cut disability benefits for pensioners. Gordon’s populist care-in-the-home plan seems to be unraveling – it is to be financed by taking away benefits from elderly disabled. That will make an already rebellious Labour backbench unhappy…
“So the most practical thing that an honourable government could have done is clean up parliament”
You realise that you’re talking about NuLabour here?
DC asked Broon (twice) to agree that the Kelly reforms should go through, and Broon refused to agree to it – obviously showing where his priorities lie…
though in mcbust’s defence we must remember that your average labour mp is as thick as pigshit and has next to no prospects for a job that will pay even half what they get as an mp unless they can get a position in the EU, therefore the slightest attack on their luxurious lifestyle and they would rebel against the gorgon.
he’s still a twat, it’s still wrong but just trying to explain what the petty political factors are which make up his judgement. has there ever been a PM who more blatantly put his own career before the country?
not until May
surprised Liz could read Gord’s writing
it’s about time someone kicked these Labour pigs out so all the squeaky clean Conservatives who were completely exonerated from having any problems whatsoever with their expenses can take over with a clean new broom
Considering that the Telegraph is running a story about 6 troughers, of which 5 are Labour, who are seemingly about to be prosecuted for fraud/false accounting/being greedy b*****ds, the fact the Brown didn’t put a word about it in the Queen’s Speech and wouldn’t accept Cameron’s challenge to sort things out can only yet further decimate his poll ratings.
Cameron is coming out really strong on this issue, and Brown, YET AGAIN, looks shifty, weak and dithering.
http://cogitodexter.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/events-dear-boy-events/
when I hear the guy with £30 Million has decided to stop claiming benefits and finally started paying back the money he thieved from the Taxpayer to pay for his his own mortgage, then I might take the Cameron tough on expenses P.R. bullshit seriously
and why didn’t he support an investigation into MPs mortgages if he’s so “tough”?
keep trying to spin it as just a Labour MP problem but we all know better
the House of Commons is absolutely FULL of disgusting thieving piggies and they are Conservatives, Lib Dems and Labour not just one Party
no amount of public relations spinning will change that fact
if Cameron wants laws or a bill to clean up Parliament then he can put a motion in the commons, embarrass Brown and highlight his stupidity by having a full debate on it in the commons, or use his manifesto and the election to promise them
we’ll see if he does won’t we?
He dosent have 30 million just one of the little technical flaws in your very weak argument. By the way you forgot to mention Bullingdon.
2/10 must try harder
How much does he have then because he didn’t deny the £30 Million when Marr asked him or volunteer his total worth did he ?
one of the technical flaws in your twattery is you don’t seem to know the fats but simply gainsay them in the hope of dismissing them
let me educate you
Cameron took maximum second home allowance after paying off his own mortgage
David Cameron, leader of the Conservative Party, took out a maximum taxpayer-funded mortgage then paid off his own £75,000 mortgage four months later. Sunday Mail journalists digging in the Land Registry have found:
According to Land Registry documents, in 1995 Mr Cameron paid £215,000 for a house in Kensington, West London, which was part-funded with a £75,000 mortgage from Alliance & Leicester.
In August 2001, just a month after the second-home allowance went up by a staggering £5,840 per annum – from £13,628 to £19,468 – and two months after he entered the Commons, he paid £650,000 for the constituency house in Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, and used the property as security for a £350,000 loan from HSBC.
Mr Cameron’s spokesman said last night that his offer on the house had been accepted three months earlier in May 2001.
Then, in December of that year, the Land Registry removed the Alliance & Leicester charge from its records for the Kensington home after the loan was ‘discharged by electronic means.’
Mr Cameron sold the Kensington property in 2005 for £1,150,000 – a profit of £935,000 – and bought another house nearby. His Oxfordshire home is estimated to be worth just under £1million, a paper profit of more than £300,000.
His mortgage claim is potentially contentious because, coincidentally or not, experts say that it corresponds approximately to the upper limit of the ACA, which covers the costs of running an MP’s second home. In the financial year 2002-03, the first full year Mr Cameron claimed under the ACA, he received the maximum £19,722.
In 2003-04, he claimed £20,328, just £5 less than the maximum, and in 2004-05 he took the maximum of £20,902.
In total, between 2002 and 2007 he claimed £102,874. If he had paid off £75,000 of the Oxfordshire loan, rather than clearing the mortgage on his London home, the bill would have been about £22,500 lower.
Expenses Pig. case closed
0/10 must learn something about the subject
Ooh ooh ooh!
Quote:
The Daily Telegraph understands that detectives will imminently pass files on Labour MPs Elliot Morley, David Chaytor and Jim Devine, and peers Baroness Uddin, Lord Hanningfield and Lord Clarke of Hampstead to the Crown Prosecution Service.
Keir Starmer, the country’s top prosecutor, is expected to make a decision on whether to prosecute the politicians as early as January, before a General Election.
The Director of Public Prosecutions will decide whether the MPs and peers face court on counts of fraud, which carries a maximum sentence on conviction of 10 years, or false accounting, for which the maximum penalty is up to seven years.
Police and criminal lawyers are confident that charges will be brought.
LET’S HOPE SO!
Charges brought…in your dreams!
This is the same DPP who found no case to answer in the cash for titles scam. Its all within the rules you know.
The DPP one Kier Starmer just happens by the strangest coincidence to be a newslavelabour droid planted in postion to help and assist newliebore whenever and wherever possible!
‘there is no evidence(even though there is)to support any prosecutions of any newlabour lord/MP nor would it serve the public good(even though it definitely would)to launch prosecutions of any newslavelabour MP/lord’
So there you have the essence of newlabour, they rig the system to protect there own thieving cheating lying parasites, of course any tory in the frame is fair game.
With newslavelabour you all the graft and corruption of a third world banana republic plus the added benefit of a rigged system designed to keep the parasites in place, what more could anyone want eh?
Note so far as far as I can see the only punishments meeted out so far was to a conservative MP for false employment of family (Good riddance) and also a memeber of UKIP fiddling expenses(good ridance also). Compared to some on the Labour side both in the HOC and HOL even though they deserved what they got these were mere small fish in the cess pool.
Not in the public interest old boy. The (arrogant and odious) political class always looks after its own.
Agreed. Guido, please put this clip up. It shows clearly just how spineless the Snot Gobbler is. Even on this (non-)decision, he had to ask Harriet Harman first!
That video deserves to be very widely disseminated.
The debate will be archived once it’s finished tonight, at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/house_of_commons/newsid_8363000/8363273.stm
No-one has posted it on Youtube nor Liveleak yet, Conhome have a text summary at
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2009/11/david-camerons-response-to-the-queens-speech.html
Watch the video for comment 86.
anyone got the youtube link? need to see this
The debate will be archived once it’s finished tonight, at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/house_of_commons/newsid_8363000/8363273.stm
No-one has posted it on Youtube nor Liveleak yet, Conhome have a text summary at
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2009/11/david-camerons-response-to-the-queens-speech.html
Mods, you can delete the original post with two links…
Gordon thought it was more important to listen to Harriet Harperson than David Cameron on the MP’s expenses scandal. Didn’t like Cameron’s challenge one little bit. I notice this bit that shamed Gordon Brown didn’t make it in the news, I wonder why.
Well done GIE :-) first person to find it posted!
Broon looked like a lame duck, he refused to agree that the Kelly report was something that needed to be in the Queen’s Speech.
Election tomorrow please
Cameron’s Speech, not the best quality but the only one around in full so far…
- Credit: KoanPhilosopher
Could have put the full speech online but most of it was rubbish, quicker to put the gems Cameron said online instead.
excellent vid many thanks – wow brown looks uncomfortable then totally pathetic having to confer with harperson, he really has no idea how to handle himself, just a complete loser, no wonder obama ran away from him in the un kitchen
Shameful Queens Speech, shameful omission of Kelly reforms, shameful response of Gordon Brown.
How could he fail to reform MPs’ expenses when it was the sole reason for prolonging the life of this Parliament?
got it in one – the real reason brown prolonged this corrupt parliament was his vanity and desperation to not be grouped with callaghan and major as total failure PMs, especially since he is now regarded as a total failure as a chancellor – didn’t work as he’ll lose next year, if they don’t find some emergency pretext for cancelling/stealing the election
his entire life’s work has gone up in smoke, the only thing i’m sad about is that many still don’t realise how guilty that bastard blair was – though i suspect the history books might get it right.
Don’t worry, Dave is sure to base his entire election campaign on cleaning up parliament
At least he appeared yesterday to face up to the situation unlike the McYellow one (Book of courage) hiding behind the skirts of Hatemen
Ben Bradshaw (who to me looks like a man who does not believe a single word that comes out of his own mouth) said, “the government had “given control of the process away” in order to end hundreds of years of self-regulation.”
“It is extraordinary for me for the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats to now be suggesting that MPs take back control of this process. The whole point is we’ve given control of the process away,” he said. ”
Um, No Ben, that is a blatant misrepresentation of truth. There was an independent investigation, but unless you know of any other legislating body in the UK, WHO THE FUCK ELSE CAN LEGISLATE TO BRING INTO LAW THE 11 MEASURES THAT CAMERON ASKED ABOUT YESTERDAY???
And this shows how utterly inept the BBC have become in that their “correspondents” actually took up that line of attack this morning! I mean, come on! Of course there is an independent body to recommend the changes needed to “clean up” Parliament, but who the fuck do they think will push these changes through the commons and make them law?
Clearly Labour and the BBC want the recommendations to remain as flimsy guidelines instead, so that they can be forgotten and the Gravy Train can be quietly started again, after all, they do not like the expenses spotlight shone on them too, do they?
It is absolutely disgusting that there was nothing in the Queen’s speech about expenses. Labour want to legislate on everyone and everything about from the thieves in their own ranks. Vote Labour to prevent parliament from being cleaned up.
I reckon the Queen has failed in her duty. She has stood by Her government rather than her subjects.
Yup. She was uniquely positioned to put an end to all this.. but..
“Does one stand up against these swine, or does one shut up and keep takin’ one’s pension, what with the mansions, castles and what not? Oh, and think of Edward! Little Edward.. got to keep havin’ an income from him. Best to keep quiet, eh?”
May the Good Lord bless you, m’am, you spineless inbred piece of shit.
“for him”, not “from him”. Sorry.
too bloody right the daft old sponger is complicit in letting this countries standards fall.
Not so easy for her. If she had done that she would have been marked immediately as pro-Tory and a great wall of criticism would have been unleashed by Labour, the Left and all the closet republicans. Their capacity to escalate issues is far greater and far more honed than the right, simply because they have so many allies in the media. Such a move would only have threatened the very existence of the Monarchy and given Labour a sounding board for much bleating, wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Labour set out to manipulate and completely control the main stream media since before the 1997 election. Like addicts they’ve not yet found the integrity or courage to kick the drug.
I didn’t think the Queen was allowed to interfere in parliamentary matters.
She would NOT be interfering.
You are absolutely correct. As has been posted on here “ad nauseum” – (and people should consult “Bagehot” if there still remains any doubt)- In a Constitutional Monarchy such as ours -the Sovereign only has three rights – the right to be consulted;the right to warn and the right to give advice. Nothing else.The Sovereign CANNOT dismiss a government or a Prime Minister or call and election. The only people who can depose a Prime Minister who is merely “Primus Inter Pares” is The Cabinet so all this fantasising about the Queen sacking Brown is nonsense it cannot happen.
The rights of the Sovereign were limited firstly by a Civil War when Parliament won and “chopped off the Sovereign’s head” to make their point that THEY not the Sovereign were paramount and then subsequently when James II got a bit above himself and thought he was in charge and as a result was deposed by Parliament after doing a “runner” when he thought he may suffer the same fate as his Dad, Charles I, and the Crown was then offered by Parliament jointly to William and Mary(James’ daughter) and passed the Bill of Rights in 1689. The goverment of the day calls the shots NOT the Monarch. Sorry but there it is !!
total bollocks – The Quen can do what she likes -if she jump to Brown he would shit himself.
Desperate times call for unique methods – you lot are just so downtrodden,you don’t say boo to a goose!
Load of cowards.
The Queen couldn’t resist Brown – if she steps an inch outside her traditional role then Labour will unleash a shit storm of media attack & unattributable briefings against the Monarchy. They’ve already hung the Royals out to dry whenever it suited their news management agenda.
those Labour bastards have done everything to udermine the monarchy
I hear they even had the Royals phones bugged then monstered them with trashy gossip stories
Actually, Her Maj is the ONLY person who can dissolve parliament. That’s why the PM has to go to Buck House and ask her to do it when he wants to call an election.
It’s part of the rather convoluted constitutional settlement that has kept Britain relatively stable for over 300 years. The Queen has many, quite dictatorial powers. The twist is that she effectively promises never to use them except at the request of her democratically elected government. In return the politicians acknowledge that there is a point beyond which they cannot go, just in case she does invoke those powers.
For an example of just such a case have a look at an unbiased account of the demise of the Whitlam government in Australia.
Well I think they are vermin
Is she not guardian of the constitution? Do we have a consitution, and if so, how does her guardianship of it manifest itself?
no.
the people are the guardians of the Constitution because the Sovereignty of Parliament lies with, and therefore belongs to, us.
we had to force a monarch under duress of death to to handover the Sovereignty of Britain to the people and it looks as if we will have to threaten our politicians with the same outcome if they do not admit their collective error and return to the people what they have stolen from us.
We, the People, demand the return of our Sovereignty.
if the politicians refuse to comply with our demand then that would, in the view of a hastily convened People’s Court, constitute a declaration of war by the British state against the British People.
not a civil war: a Sovereign War.
What happened to the labour MPs today?
http://tiny.cc/cjxf2
a senior ‘protection officer’ last night and he’s just come off Gordon Brown watch. Apparently our man ‘never speaks to staff, so he isn’t rude so much as entirely non-communicative’ and he and Sarah sleep in different rooms in different parts of the house and barely speak to each other. More as it breakzzzz…
http://www.popbitch.com/board.html#3722843
Would any sane woman sleep next to Gordon?
See? Even Sarah’s had enough of him.
He’s well and truly doomed.
Thats the only thing in her favour, she dont like it up her arse so she stays away from the ugly twat
But it must be nightmare stuff getting physically fucked by Gordon.
Why did Sarah do it? How could she do it unless blind and without sense of smell?
I can explain everything.
Who says gorgon actually got it up anyway huh?
Test tubes are cheap nowadays…
I bet her juices have dried up anyway !
I think you will find Rock Hudson have the same sleeping arangements with his wife.
The trouble with New Labour is …
A paraphrase of the great Baroness Thatcher.
“Margaret Thatcher, in a television interview for Thames TV’s This Week on February 5, 1976. Thatcher said, “…and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people’s money. It’s quite a characteristic of them.”
Did we listen to the same speech?
;)
honourable government – hahahahah ahahahahahahah hahahahaha
For fucks sake Guido, stop it, I’m laughing so hard it hurts.
Sir: I saw how Her Majesty, her royal finger on the pulse of her British Empire subjects, doubtless senses that all present and all absent at today’s daftness – mostly Labour MPs, not surprisingly – doesn’t give any more a toss than the electorate will do, come next summer
The Queen joined the “stay at home with Apathy” Party long ago, knowing how best to tow anybody’s line, regardless of their political bias, provided she can keep her castles, palaces, horses, corgies and jewellery trinkets safe
Still, at least she’s cut her speech down to a mere six minutes, in toto. Thus, she’s still adamantly refusing to challenge Mr Jeremy Paxman, 59, of Henley-on-Thames’ observation, made in his book on Royalty. That despite – the duration of her reign – (since early 1950’s), Her Majesty has not once said anything of the remotest interest at all, let alone touched upon anything controversial
Mr Paxman’s sardonic comment sums up why: ” … for, that is Her Majesty’s genius” Crikey, a GENIUS? Just for keeping your royal mouth shut, decade after decade. Can politicians, spin-doctors, political bloggers learn from this, at all, I wonder?
Arch anti-monarchists, like the much-missed Labour MP, Willie Hamilton, must be admonishing us all from beyond the grave, with a message of ” … well, I did keep telling you so … ”
Trevor Malcolm
Portsmouth Hampshire
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The silence on the corruption is thundering.
They are going to do sod all about the theft, rampant corrupt and bribery in parliament
When are they going to pay interest on the money they have paid back? It’s an interest free loan, and that is a valuable benefit.
Scum
Guido, it was an aspirational speech. It was designed to set out what nuLabour believe in that’s all. Look at this extract.
……Finally, my government would like to state its unshakable, iron like belief in Aliens, the Loch Ness monster, it all started in America, the 5p being a really user friendly coin, Northern rock will generate a profit for the taxpayer, magic beans, Gordon Brown campaigning for Tony Blair to be president of Europe will be a benefit, Pokemon, zombies stalking the earth at night, werewolves, recycling, telepathy, age reducing skin cream, Scotland would beat England at soccer,Dr Who, Hades, that the EU is about to sign off its accounts, crime really has reduced since 1997, if you cut open a tennis ball it contains poison gas, printing money doesn’t cause inflation, peace for everyone and an end to all war,hunger,poverty,disease,discomfort,irritations,niggles and ennui. Most importantly my government steadfastly believes that it will win the next election.
I commend this fantasy speech to the bin.
Tour de force!
I commend this fantasy speech to the bin.
lol – well said :-)
accurate summation
Ah, a spirit of ennui, my thoughts exactly, you can’t beat them, or can you?, all it takes is enough people with big sticks.
Yes, but the Paramilitary Wing of the Labour Party (aka the piggies of the Met Police) have more sticks, and permission to use them. And use them, they do, with glee.
Pokemon was useful, at least it kept my son off the streets for a while. Never could work out what it was.
There was a bit more. Her Majesty justified her £35 million by neither falling asleep, laughing out loud, rolling her eyes, pointing at the text, looking at an official and murmuring IS THIS RIGHT? REALLY? YOU’RE SURE? or just shrugging her shoulders and sighing deeply
the rest is at
http://cityunslicker.blogspot.com/2009/11/queens-speech-continued.html
There was a slight curl of disgust on her lip. Not overt you understand, but just enough to send a message to the good people of this country.
The Queen certainly didn’t look impressed when she read the speech!
Strange?
She’s usually bouncing around the chamber giggling rapturously
hello mum!
Rumpuy off.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1228464/Brown-launches-ditch-attempt-save-Tony-Blairs-bid-EU-presidency.html
Right then, it’s down the pub instead….
“Brown launches ditch attempt”
Ha!
Great title in the link. Is that like ‘ditch’ the twat he’s useless
In many ways the welfare of the UK is under greater threat than we have faced since the end of WW2.
The debt which has been foisted on the nation means that future generations must pay dearly for the negligence of this government.
This irrelevant Parliament totters on ignominiously, failing to address the real problems of the country. The government is the epitome of complacency.
The British people deserve better than this.
What’s really sad and even criminal is that after many years we had finally paid off WW2 only to allow these bunch of bufoons to put us right back to square 1.
Is there a Marshall Plan we could tap into?
No, but there’s a Marshall amp you could plug into.
Unfortunately there will be no electricity in the UK after 2011, thanks to Zanu’s failure to square up to our energy needs. It’ll be like Soylent Green … and I’m not just talking about the home-made generators as pedalled by Charlton Heston.
Yes. We do deserve better than this – which is why I’m voting with my feet and emigrating!
Tenement Tory
Shut the fuck up.
Worst crisis since 1945, who are you trying to kid.
You obviously slept through the industrial genocide of 79-86.
Stop spouting pish for the GIBy’s on “Spunky Spunky”.
>industrial genocide
Fuckwit.
I would just like to remind everybody that I am a lady’s front bottom. This is one of the eternal verities and should not be overlooked.
“Shut the fuck up.”
No, you shut the fuck up New Labour Jammy Dodger.
Power to the people!!!
away and fuck yersel ya numpty scottish pile o’ pish
Zorn lover
You are as fake as Scratchy’s conversion to the green agenda.
Away and throw shite at yersel ya muppet.
Avant-garde jazz indeed.
The “green agenda” will impoverish millions of mainly poor people and destroy our economy.
Of course the super rich billionaires and their willing political cretins behind the “green agenda”, have no problem with this, as they will be insulated from the effects of their actions and protected from those who they intend to harm.
If you have bought into the bullshit theory, ponder this, according to their own models ( all of which are flawed and inaccurate ) it would take 33 years of zero human activity, no electricty, travel, or consumption of any kind, to reduce the worlds temperature by 1 degree farenheit.
Seriously, people need to wake up, before they find they have nothing at all and no rights to do anything, to remedy this planned, green impoverishment, insanity.
Actually I’m just a total twat
Industrial genocide! You utter fuckwit. Genocide is what happened in occupied Europe in 1941-45 and in Cambodia under Pol Pot. Classic mindless NuLab stuff, conflating anyone who disagrees with you with Nazism. At least try to grow up.
In 1979-1986 a lot of businesses that had not been viable for years closed down, creating very substantial unemployment and adverse consequences for social cohesion. In 2000-2007 the national finances have been completely trashed, and a wave of unchecked immigration unleashed for the purpose of social engineering has done far greater damage to social cohesion.
All ways up, this one is far worse than 1979-1986, and I write as someone who hated Thatcher at the time.
Scabby dug
1979-86 was the revenge of the Daily Express reader aided and abetted by a criminally high interest rate policy.
It was done to destroy the working class through semi-skilled unemployment.
All the benefits of North Sea oil were wasted to keep the country afloat as she destroyed what she didn’t understand.
Loss making industries, you are having a laugh.
What made them lose money was the artificial high pound and the loss of domestic demand.
If you hated her them, do you still hate her now?
If you still hate her why are you posting on “Spunky Spunky”?
It is the blog of choice for the rabid right wing mentalist GIBy’s when they manage to crawl out of their, or someone else’s hole.
Whatever… (Yawns)
NLJD = Fucking mong.
Artificial high pound and lack of demand…
Yup that will make trading conditions difficult, so what is the answer?
In the 1970s Labour’s answer = go on endless strikes.
So the unionised workers who were manufacturing (remember when we did that in the UK, 12 years of labour and we manufacture far LESS now than we did under the tories) products that could not be sold, decided the best way to protect their jobs was to stop making those products and go on strike!
The international demand wasn’t there because we didn’t make anything that the foreign markets wanted, and even when we did, we could not guarantee delivery due to the number of days lost to strike action.
Domestic demand was not there because labour had ruined the economy and nobody could afford anything. And back then people did not have the same access to second, third, fourth mortgages and extra loans and multiple credit cards.
That is the only way Labour kept the economy going this time as long as it did.
Labour does NOT stand up for the workers of this land. It panders to the few greedy, lazy ones and wrecks our economy every time it gets its grubby hands on power!
Yup! I is a mong
WHAT A LOAD OF OLD SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The “industrial genocide” you speak of was crafted and designed soley by the union baron traitors in the pay of and under the direct orders of the UKs enemy of the era the USSR!
The UK post war industrial base was destroyed on purpose by quisling marxist labour and union traitors on the direct orders of the KGB/Moscow, labour polititians of the highest rank were involved and union bosses made sure that vast swathes of our industrial base suffered years of strikes and industrial sabotage in order to make a soviet invasion and takeover that mush easier.
The truth is hard to swallow isnt it comrade? your socialist heroes were nothing more than cheap quisling traitors who betrayed their own people, the workers to generations on the dole and all for £££$$$ and a perverted desire to see the UK a part of the USSR.
Labour is the party of treachery and treason, not only against the state which they hated but more seriously against their own supporters BTW the union barons who sold out the working class didnt suffer did they?
Open your eyes to the betrayal of the working class, it wasnt Maggie who destroyed our industrial base, when she arrived on the scene it was a rotten stinking corpse and all she did was bury the corpse! The thing about you socialists is your blind self delusion, god knows when you will wake up from your Thatcher fixation when you do you are in for a hell of a cold shower.
Well,let’s translate the soundbite into English shall we? The 1948 UN Convention defines genocide and it is not in any way applicable to the loss of industries. Nice and emotive though isn’t it?
Ask yourself why our industry was decimated? Pehaps it was as a result of the Trade Union stranglehold on working practices in the period 1970 -1979 in particular which allowed foreign competitors to take over our traditional markets?
I note that New Labour have not exactly rushed to recreate an industrial base since 1997 -quite the reverse. Who has been promoting the ‘knowledge economy’ as the be all and end all?
If all you are lhave is jibes and insults, take them back to the playground or grow up.
Knowledge economy? In other words, we manufacture endless forms to fill in!
NLJD? New Labour Jackoff Dunce?
The British people deserve better than this.
No we don’t. We voted the hoons into power!
Guido said…
….that an honourable government……
And there’s your problem right there
Seconded. Quite so.
DON’T GO-STAY AND FIGHT THE BASTARDS!!!
Yet Again we see McBruin’s team trying to hoodwink everyone with smoke and mirrors garbage.
A drowning party grasping at straws
Grasping at Straws and Milibands and Mandelsons, going down for the third time (yes you Mandy, dirty bugger).
Ed Ballsup was rubbish by his own poor standards on 4 news earlier. I think Operation Fightback has become Operation Shoot ourselves in the foot.
Ed Cooper was spectacularly rubbish on tv tonight. It all continues to fall apart at the seams.
Brown mark II – different accent and scary eyes, nothing but a schoolyard bully.
bbc news ticker
“An Army report into the death of a soldier in Afghanistan says kit shortages were not to blame”
Right up their when Aintworthashit is lambasted for just that and the father is going legal.
The original and genuine Hoon’s Hoon found the grief of parents “tiresome”. Ask Reg Keays.
The troughing filthy shitehound may yet feel the kiss of surgical steel ‘pon his tongue for that.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Report-Concludes-First-British-Casualty-In-Afghanistan-Left-Vulnerable-By-Lack-Of-Equipment/Article/200911315456866?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Header_2&lid=ARTICLE_15456866_Report_Concludes_First_British_Casualty_In_Afghanistan_Left_Vulnerable_By_Lack_Of_Equipment
Always the same story isn’t it? The families, the coroner, even sometimes the soldiers themselves akeep saying that troops are dying for lack of kit.
The MoD and aintbustinagut and brown keep repeating by rote that our troops have everything that they need.
I know who I believe.
I notice there wasn’t any commitment in today’s Queen’s Speech about an exit strategy for this failed labour war.
It may well be a failed Labour war but I don’t remember any leaders of the other parties voting against going in there. They are all complict and all have blood on their hands.
None of the parties voted to go to war in Afghanistan. It is a NATO action sanctioned by article 5 that an attack on one member state is an attack on all. It is a legitimate and legal and lawful action caused directly by the Taliban’s support for those people who NATO blamed for 9/11.
I wish people would stop mixing up Iraq with Afghanistan.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, did NOT have WMD and was a wholly unlawful invasion.
Afghanistan was entirely legal.
Whether the Afghanistan war is being fought logically, strategically or in any way consistent with the stated objectives is another matter entirely.
Another British soldier dies today during the Afghanisation.
More blood on your hands McBroon.
If you have to blame someone at least blame the right people.
Lack of night vision equipment is the fault of the MOD / Defence logistics.
All this 20/20 hindsight will destroy our armed forces.
Getting to the stage where we can only send the army in with a police escort.
Shite equipment has been the bain of Army life since the Crimea.
Anyone pushing an agenda that it is all a recent phenomenom is talking potically motivated shite.
I await the inquest into the sinking of HMS Hood with interest.
The GIBy’s on “Spunky Spunky” will naturally blame Lloyd George or Clement Attlee while Tennyson-d’Eyncourt and his flunkey Attwood get off scot free.
Same old politics, same old lies, same old pish.
Do one you jock twat.
Yeah I should Shut the fuck up as I really talk through my arse most of the time.
Lloyd George sorted out the shell crisis within a year.
Lord Beaverbrook sorted the aircraft shortage within a year.
The disaster of the Crimea shortage was put right by the war’s end.
At the start of the battle of Britain the UK had a total of zero fast rescue launches and rescue sea planes. A total of one pilot was rescued from the North sea during the battle. By the wars end over a thousand fliers had been saved by an efficient air/sea rescue service.
2001-2009 and still waiting. Thats the issue NLJD. The people with money have not authorised enough of it.
Billy Boy
Whatever is provided the MOD will waste it.
The lack of armoured vehicles has been sorted.
The issue now is keeping them mobile and not in repair shops.
The helicopter issue has been addressed.
The issue is the time it has taken to go from authorisation till deployment.
Everything we get has to go through AW in Scrumpytown.
Why, why, why?
The Danish Navy 6 — One might fly usefully in A’stan this year.
Something wrong somewhere.
The pace of implementation is shocking.
I don’t know the full story on this but somebody somewhere is coming the Hoon. The pooling together of all the services helicopter resources has seriously put someone’s nose out of joint and the current shambles is the result.
Reminds me of the break up of the grammar schools and all the bitter and twisted teachers dumped into the comps.
No wonder the 70’s were so difficult.
The comps were full of the enemy within.
You bastard
the army were only out of Basra because the government made the decision
the lads were furious
the airport ?
“No wonder the 70’s were so difficult”.
No the 70’s was as a result of just another fucked up Labour government. Please don’t give any excuses I was there and saw myself Labour trash the country and bodies in the street unburied. Mind you besides the dead bodies in Co-op freezer vans that is nothing compared to these tossers who have taken trash the country to a whole new fucking dimension all together.
No doubt though when the Tories win next year you will be in front blaming the Tories for rising unemployment and failure to balance the books within the first six months. Just like you did last time as a result of failed Labour policies that took years to work through the system. I was made redundant three times so I know from the pointed end.
So come next autumn no doubt you will be Organsing demos industrial disputres. etc etc etc . It is so obvious that if it were not so sad it really would be laughable.
Tit!
Billy Boy — Take 2
LG never sorted out the army, friction all the way to Nov 1918.
Lord B never sorted it out in time to send decent aircraft to Singapore.
The RAF wasted men and machines with pointless Rhubarbs in 1941.
Air sea rescue — things had to improve Butch Harris gave them plenty of practice.
Until the guilty men in the MOD are lined up against a wall the army will always be on the shitty end of the stick.
What has all this got to do with Brown being booted out at the next election you seriously deranged idiot? Do you really think that posting this outdated shite is gonna change that?
You really are thick.
In bred fae Queenieburn
Winding up fuckers like you.
Next …
We aren’t really in that much disagreement.
All you say is correct. You could add naval defence cuts pre the Falklands to really make your case.
But, whether it is MOD cock ups, which, as we know spare parts IS the real problem, or government cash strapping the fault lies with the government not taking the war seriously for 8 years.
Not even a minister of war/defence
The buck has to stop somewhere.
Billy Boy
Agreeing with someone on “Spunky Spunky”?
And breath, …
Different party in government, soldiers will still die in A’stan.
The only difference is the press coverage will be better.
MOD / Forces were like a fart in a trance after 89.
Treasury raids were almost annual 92-97.
98 SDR was from memory welcomed by the services.
However I feel that the forces are a hollow shell of what they were in their full Cold War pomp. Basra was a shambles from start to finish.
Army ego in getting the gig.
Army capitulation in being run out of town.
Army hubris in telling the Yanks what to do.
A’stan is not much better.
MOD now fully in the loop when apportioning blame.
The politicians may come and go but the basic weaknesses remain.
MOD sponsored middle class welfare state — look at how many recent journalists went to private schools through having a father in the military.
NI hypocrisy — Take money of the squaddies but do everything in their power not to pay tax in the UK. The issues needs publicity and needs to be sorted.
Army tactics — Hopefully the NI tactics book / attitudes can now be binned.
The post 97 revolving door hasn’t helped, long standing Treasury scorn hasn’t helped but without root and branch reform in the MOD, Genghis Khan would struggle to make things work.
Why do we need any more laws?
Laws don’t seem to apply to anyone in Labour Party membership at all.
WTF do they keep heaping these rules and regulations on us?
There should be a Statute requiring 2 or 3 laws to be removed for every one foisted upon us.
Ignorance of the law is no defence, unless you are a Parliamentarian.
Laws are for Little People.
you know where to find me
Who are you calling little!
…and little people can’t afford to go to law to enforce the so called ‘rights’ Nu Lab keep inventing under their their smoke and mirrors cons…only the rich and large private and public corporations can afford to go to court these days…
Well it might not be good enough but cameron has already pledged that for every new law they put on the statute book they will repeal at least one.
all new labour laws should be repealed by the next government
Trouble is gordon’s labour has, I understand, passed more than 3000 laws since 2007.
Parliament has to debate each one before it can be repealed.
That is going to take them a lot of time!!
It depends – if some were done by the statutory instrument process then it just takes the stroke of a pen.
Of the others, you can bet a fair few will stay in place.
Over 3000 Nu labour laws….and which one are we in breach of today sir?
Fucking ridiculous isnt it?
How in the blue fuck can ANYONE know which of these laws theyre in breach of?
But them, thats the idea isnt it?
Tacitus said: “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.”
Corruptissima res publica, plurimae leges
except for Lisbon coz were fine with that
innit?
We need some cast iron to put on the side of our afghan 4wd coffins that brown has given his cannon fodder instead of helicopters
Sir Christopher Kelly is disappointed that there was no mention of expenses in the Queen’s Speech.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Queens-Speech-Sir-Christopher-Kelly-Is-Disappointed-No-Mention-Of-Expenses-In-Queens-Speech/Article/200911315457105?lpos=Politics_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15457105_Queens_Speech%3A_Sir_Christopher_Kelly_Is_Disappointed_No_Mention_Of_Expenses_In_Queens_Speech
When I look at the clip with Mandelson on the ‘front page’, it always looks like it says
“Gay News” and not Guy. Does anyone else have to do a double take?
I’m sure the ‘Gay News’/Mandy ‘double-take’ shot was merely a coincidence ;0) but yes, I have to chuckle each time Mandy’s ugly, ermine wrapped mug appears with the caption.
Lord Mandy?
Never, in the field of British politics, was the death of stoats so uncalled for.
I try to avoid looking at anything with Mandleson on- it makes me feel decidedly queasy.
Lord Mandleson is getting more Kenneth Williams every day.
Carry on Screaming, with the pale face, and the twisted way he says ‘Rhhubbbahh Teee-Tee’
Serious question.
How is the deluded fuckwit going to half the deficet by continuing to spend spend and then spend more?
Or is it more like
“we will set the bar for the incoming government to halve the defecit in 4 years after hosing all the cash everywhere and then complain when they fail to control and balance the nations finances unlike we would have done had we not been removed from power.
I can see the bear trap now.
The biggest laugh is McFuckwit still seems to think we fall for this shit. Deluded utterly deluded.
The big question is why do we get in a supposed democratic system an unelected Prime Minister that is obviously not compus mentis, who then gets propped up by a Minister that has also never been elected by anybody shoe’d in via the House of Lords (Mandelson).
Democracy, don’t you just love it.
brown was elected by the people of kircaldy, but nominated and sworn in as PM by abenign labour party. Nobody else has voted for the fucker and WE are paying the price. maybe those fine voters in the little scottish town ought to be blown up as well – bastards
Gordon is not doing spend spend spend. It’s printing printing printing!
He’s been doing a lot of both.
Just 127 out of 350 Labour MPs turned up for the Queen’s speech deabte. Good to see them working so hard. Maybe they were updating their CVs ahead of being sent out into the job market next year.
The problem is, with Woolworth’s gone, I’m not sure what your average common-or-garden ex Labour MP’s actually good for.
Keeping the Pick-n-Mix tidy.. yes, maybe.. as long as they don’t snaffle too many sweets.
Anything else? Er, no.
Primark?
They’ll be working for local councils as carbon level co-ordinators.
Mumsnet which is being touted as the barometer for the next GE , doesn’t seem to have been very impressed with the Queen’s Speech and gordon’s plans.
No-one seems to believe that gordon is capable of halving the budget deficit in four years, but then I guess even gordon doesn’t believe that one.
I’m beginning to wonder if NuLiebore are talking about “halving the deficit” in the hope that the dafter elements of the population think it means “halve the National Debt”. Not quite telling porkies, but about as close as you can get – and it will fall over as soon as an astute Sun journalist asks to clarify exactly what it means.
Secondly, why take five years to halve the deficit? How about doing the right thing and eliminating it altogether in, say, three years?
@Engineer, don’t waste your breath, or pinkies on the keyboard, its all an illusion.
Scotty
I take it Economics was not on the agenda when you did your training?
The last thing we need is a bit of saloon bar punditry.
Only the economically illiterate would want to cut back when the economy is this weak. It is the economics of the dark ages.
“It is the economics of the dark ages.”
And the dark ages have just fucking begun, thanks to McTwat.
Goes fourth — Like the sound of that!
I see you are still getting your intellect from BNFL?
Either that or you share my horror over the possibility that Scratchy may get into power.
Yes. Damn those compact fluorescent bulbs.
You might not have noticed pal, but the country IS being run by financial illiterates… the Labour ones that royally fucked up the country’s finances..
The UK is best placed to ride out the recession my arse.
Want to play the biscuit game Gordon?
Biscuit game?, Prefer Snakes and Ladders, I always throw the wrong dice and end up down somebody’s bottom, but hey, Bank of England keep giving me more cash to play with, thank you Darling.
Of course he doesn’t believe it, he knows it won’t be him that has to do it.
But why does he have to make it a legal requirement? Does that make it more likely to happen? Who gets to chat with Inspector Knacker when the target isn’t met?
-ello ello ello, well if it ain’t Mr Cameron, I am harresting you on charges of failing to half the budget deficit as required under the Halving the Budget Defecit Thats Stuffed You Up Good And Proper Act 2010 as amended, now come quietly sir, we wouldn’t want you to slip down some steps and haccidentally hurt yourself would we?
For someone who writes so well, Guido, you don’t ‘alf sound a bit strained with the old verbal form of communication. “Cambatititititive?”; “Hone in”???
Maybe you were just nervous.
(Good points, though.)
Realtime versus composed.
Point taken.
Hope your lot make it to the finals, btw. Still one-nil up as we speak.
Two words:
Maradona : TWICE
UNRAVELLING
We really need to start putting this American spelling and American vernacular [ strollers / movies / cookies] bollocks back in its box.
“Hey Pardner!, Is that just y’all saying that, or all your all’s?”
Have a nice day
Ee, lad, wha’ thee yackin’ abaht, at’aa?
how many times do I have to tell you engineer?
this is not your email account motherfucker.
please stop wasting the readers’ time with your inane chatter.
Jesus H Christ, you pump out more internet chatter than alqaeda for fucks sake.
you will shut the fuck up and you will listen and you will listen closely: top boy has decided that you offer no value to this place. party lobbyists like you should pay a special fee for appearing here, you are thieves who steal free credible message space and use it to spread your anti-democratic party poison.
top boy is very disappointed in you engineer.
but I am a generous and merciful hero and so I offer you a choice:
raise your game or fuck off.
I do not believe you will be able to raise your game so you will just have to fuck off innit.
Thee piles still playin thee oop then, lad? Laike Ah towd thee laa’ neet, tha mun get thissen a bit cree-am from th’ chemist.
you’re a fucking spastic engineer.
thankyou for proving my point.
Er … spastics can’t fuck because they’re in spasm.
Innit.
said engineer’s gay lover.
shut the heck up you crack addicted piece of fuck.
they really do take the electorate as fools – i still want an apology that it was ok to spend my hard earned money on porn.
Brilliant.
Wud that Braun had been a makerell. We cud hav kanned him.
God Forbid. I like mackerell.
What happened to the Makerel’s Lot and why do I keep getting modded for my anodyne comments. Maybe that’s it I don’t put enough F words in.
you probably strayed into the moderators wrath by mentioning one of the FORBIDDEN words we cannot utter
like anything to do with imbibing anything stronger than orange juice
Thank you Frank.
No I didn’t mention anything stronger than orange juice, but I did mention the Watford Gap, maybe that’s a NoNo.
or “dr1vel”
Mind your language you fucking cυnt!
Tee hee
What I thought was most odd about todays events was that the Queen bothered to turn up.
Why?
Oh yes, that’s right, so she can claim to have some point and be worth all the millions she costs the UK tax payers and all the vast fortune she and her family have (at our past, current and future expense).
I could have done what she did but without the wig
Tell you what. Let’s sack her and have a President, shall we?
How about Tony fucking Blair first up?
Don’t even fucking joke about that as that is exactly what we might get today!
The grossest and most perverted part of that news though is that we might not, because the alternatives are even WORSE!
Yes, those parasitic halfwits, living in a fantasy world where they never put spend their own money on anything, shagging each other at the first opportunity and desperately trying to keep their finances a secret from the poor people.
Oh, you’re talking about the Queen?
The Queen turned up so she could claim her once a years House of Lords attendance allowance.
Gordon… Yup?
Mandy… Yep!
Ben Doon and Phil McCrevice.
Good news as the Rats depart for sunnier climes.
The departure of pondlife Russel Brand, Stephen Fry and Ben Elton to the US and Australia is heart warming, especially as they’ll find life there most unpleasant since neither the Aussies nor the Yanks have any time for smart arse whingers.
Sadly I suppose they’ll have the right to return once they’ve had a good kicking.
If the B*P pledge to hang all the cowardly socialists running from the scene of the crime from the nearest lampost at the airport if they come back. I would vote for them.
ditto
I see dear edballs has leaked it to the press that he want £2.6billion for the next 3 year education programme ‘that he is planning’.
The Treasury had already turned him down when he let his request be known to the press.
So Why did he publicise it?
This is not about education or the good of the nation. This is all about EdB, painting himself as a caring educationalist, positioning himself for the leadership challenge of the labour party after gordon loses the next GE.
He obviously thinks the electorate are such idiots they won’t realise what he’s doing!!
Nell, you’re gonna have to face it, Ed Balls is one hellova guy,hunky, kind, sensitive, good with children, ooopppssss, didn’t mean that and from norwich. What’s he doin’ in yorkshire then pet?
I am sure he’s right to believe they won’t see thro’ his total hypocrisy.
Most of the electrorate north and west of the Watford Gap have been so brain washed and ‘benefitised’ by now that they seem to swallow this line of drivel every time. Otherwise we wouldn’t have this bunch of corrupt incompetents in power.
‘Eh yoop, EdB he’s such a carin’ chap, not like those toffee nosed Tories from down South’
A few months back Ed Balls said he had identified £2 billion in cuts from the education budget
Today he is asking for a £2.6 billion increase in the education budget.
Is he taking the piss or is it something else?
It’s a standard gambit when Ministers are being leaned on to cut spending.
The panic is beginning.
The only way spending cuts will happen before the election is if they are imposed by outside forces.
I feel like a frenchman sensing a revolution.
Steady on old son, this is Britain. We don’t do revolutions. Anyone for a pint.
Don’t we? What was the execution of Charles I then??
Eskimo
A bit of puritanical over reaction.
That is what happens when people like Semen actually get off their arse and do something.
We need to call time on this horse-shit, once and for all.
The PM is so divorced from reality that he thinks we are all as stupid as the morons he has chosen to surround himself with.
He thinks we will swallow this crock-of-shit of a Queen’s Speech in which, time after time, he has confused policy with legislation.
An example: legislating to end child poverty. Labour has been in for twelve years. Brown has been banging on about child poverty since pre-’97 days. Labour has not even met its own targets. In 2007, Unicef ranked the UK bottom of 21 countries for child well-being. A complete failure of policy. Did this happen because there was no law against child poverty? Or was it because the Govt. is useless at implementing its own policy, despite having a huge majority, all the time in the world and no qualms about spending like there is no tomorrow?
Virtually all the other proposed bills invite ridicule similarly.
Laws are supposed to set out how the people behave. Most of the bills announced today are there to bind the government itself and its legion of quangos.
A law to reduce the defecit? Does the government REALLY need a law to remind them how much they have completely fucked up the public finances? And does it follow that laws like this are self-fulfilling? What a complete load of shit.
Will we now be able to prosecute Darling if the the budget deficit is not halved in four years. (This, BTW, is a law that asks for the national debt actually to be EVEN BIGGER in four years’ time – what an ambitious target!).
Here’s an idea, Gordon: why don’t you actually say what spending cuts need to be implemented and get on with doing it?
In the so-called “debate” that followed, McDoom had nothing to say about anything except to speculate on Tory policy. FFS! He had just had the privilege of having the Queen turn up to read whatever he asked her to. And on the telly as well. And then he had nothing to say about it? Crap.
Brown has also failed signally to grasp the mettle re. MP’s expenses. Lamentable. Unless you’re running scared in the HoC, of course.
“I actually said no more TORY boom and bust”.
This speech is a piece of shit and I commend it to the dung-heap.
This man is Blair’s legacy to Britain.
If there’s one law worth passing, it would be to forbid the government from borrowing money.
Mr Brown, here’s a little tip.
If you want to end child poverty in the UK change the Child Benefit to, oh say, £19,500 per week.
Just print the money. It will work.
We are all millionaires in Zimbabwe!
The reason why the gap between rich and poor has increased is because Labour voters had all their money taken off them by Blair.
Blair is now super rich; Labour voters have never been poorer.
Lady Mandelson looked dashing in that red fur coat
I wondered why cameron mentioned it , give many old labour voters are from communties that look after disabled , you can see this one tanking . my mate reckons he taking the money of them to shift to nhs , so its independent living but with the stasi vsiting , helping you fill your voteing form in .
thats as funny as margret hodge photo on b&p !
Lib dems seem to have had make over on there website , would i like to meet nick clegg ??? I promised to not to go to any events where i may cause a breech of the peace , so best not then .
What does this mean in English ?
Queens speech?
This would be the lingo that Baron Fondlesthebums of Boys and McMental use when talking down one of the few working telephones?
PETER
“OOOOOOget you
you big butch scotch tart”
Gordon McMental
“Peetuh, where have you hidden my tablets?”
You can’t fool all of the people all of the time:
“Spent a couple of hours with
a senior ‘protection officer’ last night and he’s just come off Gordon Brown watch. Apparently our man ‘never speaks to staff, so he isn’t rude so much as entirely non-communicative’ and he and Sarah sleep in different rooms in different parts of the house and barely speak to each other. More as it breakzzzz…”
“I believe that major Hollywood stars also access the stuntwife directory. So that’s two lines of work open to you.”
http://www.popbitch.com/board.html#3722843
Skid marks
When will the stuff about Scratchy’s chemist come out?
All that penicillin, you would have thought the upper class flange he nicks about with would have made sure their twat wasn’t mingin.
All that worry and the timebomb that is SamCam — Bolter No.3 ticking away in the background.
You’re pissed again you jock butt fuck.
Local delicacy
I was hoping for better.
After all that expensive education I thought you would have come up with something close to humour.
How wrong I was.
scant on details he may be but there is much ‘bubbling under’ in the street if shame that will be unleashed when the campaign begins proper
and yes, that includes Labour and the Libs too
this election will make the red top editors very happy bunnies
(though one former red top editor may not be so pleased)
In all fairness though, we did get lots of guarantees.
One wonders how her Majesty feels about spouting that rubbish.
Something like this, I think . . .
D
Indeed we did – edballs part of the Queen’s Speec guaranteed that ” primary pupils should get good teaching”
and
” every child’s education should be good”
Any idiot can see that those statements are so loose as to be meaningless.
But then, that is what this government is , Meaningless.
If only they had been cast iron guarantees
Have no doubt friends – this whole saga will not last the full 6 months to May – it cannot possibly do so.
The anger,the hatred,the sheer disgust of so many people across the country,the effects of so many deaths in a fruitless war,the lack of justice seen to be done against the MP’s and Lords – all of them so grotesquely on show today – the bankers that have literally got away with daylight robbery and bit by bit,day by day,week by week Brown’s hold on the edge of the cliff is becoming less secure.
Also remember the internal battles that Labour are fighting;
Balls and Darling is the most significant and there are others,not least the lizard-like Mandelson with his mysterious (or not so when you consider their history) hold over Brown.
Consider also Brown’s health – he is a dead man walking,both mentally and physically.
He is riddled with doubt and surrounded by no real friends for support.
And we know that he has the Brown curse that seems to jinx so many.
No,this chaos will not last until May.
Cameron better be ready,for he will be in Downing Street a few months earlier than he thinks.
If Brown does go due to ill health then the subsequent Leadership election would take months and then you would have a month or two of Election Campaign
Whatever happens there will be no early election
How much would you have paid towards THIS happening at The Queens speech;
HM Queen,1 minute in to the “speech”;
“Oh fuck this – Philip,I can’t speak another word of this total bullshit,let’s get out of here – if we hurry we can get back for the 2.30 race from Haydock.”
Is there ANY servant in Buck Palace who can give us the low down on what she thinks of the total crap she had to speak today?
The mistress syays, she says to me,
‘ere look at this. Its a right load of shite innit. I ain’t not gonna read none of this ‘ere bollock sores. Every child must have a good education? what’s the big jobbie on about. Thats not a policy. Its just shite.
Why is this written in crayon?
Why is it written on lavatory paper? It smells like its been used for something.
Couldn’t the blind fucktard find a clean sheet at least. A child could writ it better than this.
In all my 80 years I ain’t never ‘ad to read such a load of crap.
I thought Marge was bad but this lumpy git is a fuckin’ liberty.
Get me a fag please Hobson and give me crown a warsh. I dunno, I really don’t.
ring and say i’ve got a headache or summin’. Tell ‘em to get Sarah Brown to do it, she’s the regular warmup for this plonker.
Fucking Toenails just going ballistic about the one eyed mong on TV, I’m sure Toenails is really doing anal with Brown.
What an utter joke slaphead is.
“And boy what load of policies in the Queen’s Speech!
Feck off you pillock Robinson.
The BBC news last night was a long party political broadcast for the labour party. Slight change this morning as even the BBC could not hold back the criticism of Brown’s refusal to even mention expenses in the Queen’s speech. It did not stop them from regurgitating labour’s ridiculous claim that MP’s cannot legislate on expenses as the whole deal has been handed over to an independent body.
Well, how the fuck is that independent body going to legislate WITHOUT MPs???
Great comment here as Browns queens speech is ridiculed.
“Sadly, it would seem that Gordon Brown can’t even take a ride to the guillotine without the wheels coming off.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1228908/Queens-Speech-Even-Browns-vote-winning-proposal-destined-fail.html#ixzz0XFemz4aa
Cameron’s speech:
Part two of Cameron’s speech
This frae the Ned that screwed up with the 10% tax band,my worry with the determination he showed on that issue is ,he plans to ensure that a whole lot more people are low earners and this is where he see`s the big revenue for his utopia
the meddlesome twat
Al Jabeeba just showing Mark Bolland posing with Jonah.
That’s M&S fucked, then…
Best news of the day is that Archie Norman is the new chairman of ITV. Archie used to be William Hague’s boss at McKinsey, then head of Asda, then MP for Tunbridge and Conservative spokesman on the environment. Hopefully he will turn ITV into a sensible centre-right alternative to Al Jabeeba/ Pravda. Lots of leftie media luvies will be worried tonight.
That would be great, if you are a tory.
Where is the news for people who cannot stand the lies of either party? Where is the news that is not owned by the corporatocracy and so will only program their agenda into their viewers?
So far only on the internet and we have to second guess and fact check and second and third source that information ourselves!
Hear hear Ned, the news should be just that, a report on what happened and I can decide what I think about it.
I don’t need it mushed up into small bited sized chunks and flavoured with red or blue sauce.
Fuck M&S.
£30.00 all in, the lower paddock, Upper Upham.
Huge news from the Telegrpah. Six politicians are going to be convicted of fraud charges for expenses. All Labour?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6601023/MPs-expenses-six-MPs-and-peers-face-fraud-charges.html
Read the article ya muppet.
Lord H — Very interesting, he is treated like a living saint by the local media.
New Labour = Lying, cheating fraudsters.
You’re right, New Labour’s Just Despicable. Your lot were pretty clean – only 5 of the six crooks were Labour. About par for the course, I’d say. How can you keep on supporting them?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6601023/MPs-expenses-six-MPs-and-peers-face-fraud-charges.html
What’s the betting this is a whitewash?
Is this the strategy? Pick out six people no one’s heard of but who can defend themselves, let the higher profile and worse offenders like McNulty and JAcqui Smith get away with it?
I think the 6 highlighted pose the best chance of convictions but I still dont believe those in the CPS have the bottle to prosecute.
27 others are being investigated by HM Customs and Revenue for fraud.
Lets hope , that at least, the ginger topped one and darling get prosecuted for their serial flipping!!!!
yeah, and it’s only Labour that have disgusting mortgage flippers on their front bench
why didn’t Cameron back Cleggs calls for an investigation into MPs mortgages again?
hypocrites
BBC political editor Nick Robinson said the Queen’s Speech had felt like the opening salvo of an election campaign with ministers keen to spell out the big choices facing the electorate.
Big choices?
Hmmmm One party is all for staying inside the EU and expanding the corporatocracy and pushing the climate change agenda and pursuing politically correct legislation and spending more than the country can afford.
And so does labour! Both parties are led by Bilderbergers and trilateralists to a new world order agenda. There is no choice there.
The only REAL choice is do you vote for a Pro British, pro democracy party or a Pro New world order, anti-democracy party.
If they are all Liebour you can bet the BBC won’t report it.
No mention so far, bar a fleeting reference to the DT among all the other front pages at the end of Newsnight
yep, just checked their website, nothing, expect after a few complaints they’ll put something up
if it had been tory mps they would have splashed it across the top and been running special in depth shows on it
bbc are totally in the tank for the gorgon, the run up to the general election, if comical mandy allows one, will be dirty
Still nothing on it this morning either.
Who replaced Lord Hanningfield’s picture with a toads?
… not least because the many on the Labour backbenches are mostly elderly and unfit for actual work themselves.
To think those lobotomised chimps in the PLP were once terrified of the inadequate, spendaholic, gurning, gimp seems incredible now.
No mention of the Kelly report because the retard couldn’t get it to stick with the lobby fodder, what an utter kunt
It’s under discussion on Newsnight now. Ben Bradshaw trying unsuccessfully to defend the indefensible against Paxman, Cable and George Younger.
To Sod This.
Yes I agree,when you bring the monarch down to this level of blatant political opportunism you are really the pits.
McMental is scum and disagreeable scum at that and those spineless yes men he surrounds himself with are a bunch of traitors to this country.
I would have loved to hear what her Maj said to phil in private,but I can guess.
All in all a gutless speech from a discredited government,and they really think we will fall for this,dream on.
Is the Queens Speech a euphemism for a man who doesn’t sleep in the same room as the wife he recently married after a long political career?
you’d best ask Gideon and most of the shadow cabinet about that too
If you think I support the Fire Party, and just hate the frying-pan party, then you’re wrong.
what a concise analogy
“Hasn’t every Queen’s speech got one eye on what the public’s going to think of it?”
All right! I get it! I’m a half-blind fuckwit, alright?!
Legislating to ban child poverty, halve the deficit and guarantee schools’ quality – all a bit like King Cnut ordering the waves to retreat, if you ask me. The difference is that one was a Cnut and the other a…
Child poverty does not exsist ! it’s just labour throwing yet more of our money at SCUM that breed children as a money making exercise and then dont give a fuck about them !
Stop them breeding Stop child poverty !
King Cnut was demonstrating the limitations on power.
Gordo would drown after passing a law banning tidal change.
Banning tides is the right thing to do. The Tories would do nothing to stop millions of sandcastles from being over-run.
Well what about trying to legislate to keep global average temperature rises to only 2 degrees C?
All the “mainstream” parties are in favour of that genuinely king canutian legislation at Copenhagen!
Is it me, or does that seem like insanity?
Oi….forget about life for a sec…..that cheating bastard Thierry Henri has just booted Ireland out of the World Cup with a handball “goal” – le cnut…….
OK….carry on then…..
Surely it’s the ref who should have seen the handball .Why don’t they have video link like rugby.Here on RTE 2 the panel are furious…(Giles,Souness and Dunphy)Also the assistant manager of Ireland has said some of the players are in tears.Think of all the money that the Irish spent travelling to Paris only to see Henri cheat. Bastard
Made Maradona look sporting. They HAVE to start video assistance to refs now. France should be ejected from the World Cup – this was just as bad as Bloodgate that has cost Dean Richards his rugby career.
They are all fucking cheats if you fart next to them they fall over clutching their heads and the ref’s are no better they fall for it every time !
Yes, that’s all there is
brown lied ,ranted shit and made labour look fucked
shit he may well have been but Dave was hardly convincing either
No, yesterday was Dave’s best performance for many months. Watch the videos above.
The Labour luvies think Brown’s “you know everyone in Kensington who will benefit from inheritance tax cuts” line was very funny. Campbell does a vibrator up the arse routine on his blog. The problem is that it would benefit more than just a few and is a popular policy across England. The last laugh will be on Labour.
It was’nae ma fult ye un’stn
Ah sav’d the wuld
An ev’one asks fae ma advice.
only a few hours and I’ll be King of the EUSSR
then perhaps she’ll lay off!
Cos I’m a straight kinda guy!
The sad part, is that he might not be President. For the alternative is even worse. the grey belgian is a strong supporter of complete European integration. He wants everything to be decided by Brussels from taxation to military interventions.
I think his being appointed President might just give UKIP a massive boost.
Although, it is likely that he will receive scant coverage after today. The powers that be would rather distract the public with exaggerated and imagined differences between the tories and labour, rather than alert them to the real dangers to our sovereignty.
Even La Toynbee remains to be convinced…
Missing was the bill that was the one bold act that could have changed the argument at the next election: a referendum on proportional representation would have been a cause to bring back erstwhile Labour voters, leaving Cameron defending an indefensible system. Like Blair before him, Brown bottled it, too much the old tribalist for real reform – and Labour may come to regret that most bitterly of all.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/18/queens-speech-labour-bills
Could that vile woman be any more full of shit?
They are desperate to gerrymander the electoral system in anyway they can to keep their liberal left fuckwits in power, no matter how deeply that they are hated!
It matters not polly, the SAME overall agenda will be implemented by the tories as by labour. They both have the same masters!
Not only do Miliband’s officials keep leaving a paperweight on his chair every Monday morning, but they recently started adjusting the height of his chair to make him shorter.
Miliband has had the chair replaced three times already and even put a special mark on the setting so he knows if it has been interfered with.
Now the officials have taken to sawing a few inches off the legs of the desk and remarking that MR M. looks much taller today, did the Euro trip go well?
I should tell the CS really, but it will all be over soon.
Breaking news:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6601023/MPs-expenses-six-MPs-and-peers-face-fraud-charges.html
Nice link ukipwebmaster
from said article..
The Daily Telegraph understands that detectives will imminently pass files on Labour MPs Elliot Morley, David Chaytor and Jim Devine, and peers Baroness Uddin, Lord Hanningfield and Lord Clarke of Hampstead to the Crown Prosecution Service.
Keir Starmer, the country’s top prosecutor, is expected to make a decision on whether to prosecute the politicians as early as January, before a General Election.
Police and criminal lawyers are confident that charges will be brought.
Here comes Plod !
Wil Inspector Knacker have the balls to do it though ?
Some of us well remember the cash for peerages debacle and cowardice.
Whitewash has been ordered,CPS told was in the rules,the law doesn’t reach anyone in the House of Crime or the House of Liars.
fawkes i expect a follow up to this
Sound like an order.
I *hope* he will follow up and help push the cps to actually prosecute them.
My person of 2009 Award goes to the secret whistle-blower who leaked the MPs in full expenses which the Telegraph published.
Least we forget that the dis-honourable members who tried to just release redacted expense claim details.
Heather Brooke gets my runner up person of 2009. She started to try and expose MPs corruption way back in Octover 2004
ref:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Brooke
My Blog of 2009 goes to Old Holborn
fawkes i hope you can follow this up .yo agree the rest
Awarding yourself blog of the year OH?
Much as there is a lot to commend your blog on, I shall award my blog of the year to me!
Nah, just kidding, it goes to http://www.wattsupwiththat.com Which is one of the best climate blogs online today.
I don’t know if any of you guys agree but I think TaT is just the tops!
As a disabled pensioner I’m outraged that this government intend to hand my DLA & AA to the local authority who are crap when it comes to caring for those in need & who will no doubt hang on to as much of it as they can to pay their inflation busting pensions
The longer Brown waits, the worse it will get.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6599281/Societe-Generale-tells-clients-how-to-prepare-for-global-collapse.html
Not everybody is optimistic that recovery is on the way.
Prepare for the absolute minimum notice possible for the G.E.
Labour have no money for a long campaign.
P.R. was left out of the Queen’s speech partly because Labour has no money to campaign in a referendum either.
They are falling apart. I look forward to the day that labour are finally put into administration and wound up!
I would much prefer to see UKIP opposed by the B&P as the make-up of our Parliament.
The BBC ain’t all bad guido was on this morning and Evening , this afternoon 5 live gave Harriet Halfman a real hard time So Some of them are OK !
Nah!
Choose your allegory: Quatermass 2; The Thing; Invasion of the Body Snatchers; The Puppet Masters.
Fawkes is being podded and assimilated.
And we were told if we signed the lisbon treaty we would go to the world cup, Bloody French
Hey Guido ! Seems if the BBC Now need to know anything They Ask You !
The Queen shouldn’t be making political speeches and Guido shouldn’t be on telly talking about them.
Whatever happened the democracy idea?
No point us running round the world criticising others for a lack of democracy when we’re the most backward state in democratic terms in the western world.
Yeah I know; we’re only pretending. It’s all a big money fing innit.
Anyone for excessive state surveillance?
Haven’t seen the Eton boys get too worried about that…
Anyway, if you’re only the same size as tiny take the Soupel, how come you’re a master of the universe?
Most men could beat shit out of the pair of you whilst pleasuring two ladies.
So how the fuck did such weedy men take over?
Whilst there are quite a few commentaters who are unimpressed with the ruins speech , CW is surprised by number of who are not happy with political nature of it , in that the lines dont do as much for Labour as it was first thought as it has not given any clear reason for the left journalists to toot about , no cast iron disassemble of debt workings , home living for the elderly being squeezed and equality bill not really what business wants to keep competative .Cw has for some time been concerned that the repair of the banks would mean the damage going to business , some of which have no doubt gone under due to accumulating credit from there supply chain , with the christmas stock movements underway some companies who dont get there marketing right may be creating a loss somewhere else .
ruins emphasis on growth solving debt is yet another casino issue and growth figures in budget look blown but we get to know on dec 6th .
police now have files on fraudulent mps so will it go to court?
If you have a fraudulent MP would you like him to resign?
Ireland should keep replaying France until it achieves the result it wants.
Did Gordon wish good luck to the Orish team?
No but he WAS seen shaking Henry’s hand.
What a shambles Labour are making of the Parliamentary system. Brown and his Brownies are a disgrace, and they are an insult to the British public, who deserve better than them. Saw the news this morning in the Telegraph, Labour MPs and Peers to face criminal charges! is this the Parliament the public voted for……NO, I thought not! There should be a General Election, this hanging on to power by Brown is shameful, and I am sure the British public see right through Brown for the man he really is….a fraud, the unelected Prime Minister of the now “Little” Britain.
The BBC are leading this morning with the widespread anger, including from Sir Christopher Kelly himself, that Brown failed to mentioned parliamentary expenses in the speech he wrote for the Queen. Even Pravda are exposing how crap Brown is! :)
either that or you can’t whine about bias for once
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6601023/MPs-expenses-six-MPs-and-peers-face-fraud-charges.html
All falling on Brown’s deaf ears. The country is crying out for a General Election, and what do we have, Brown hanging by his fingernails to No10, which most people would really like to see him hanging from his neck on the nearest tree.
Hang the murderer Brown very slowly and sell the film to the Taliban for £180bn – debt paid off,the utter scum Brown dead and buried and we can start to crawl out of the hole and into sunlight.
We have ” Brown Monkey”…..Brown can’t see the evil he has caused, can’t hear the cries of the public for the General Election, and speaks of “getting on with the bad job” he is doing.
They have still yet to mention the Telegraph story though. Not a dickie bird.
If these MPs are going to be charged with criminal offences, would it not be the honourable thing to do and resign from Parliament. Then surely a General Election would need to be called as so many seats would be up for bi-elections, we can but hope!
He is a gift to the Tories though, so it’s not all bad.
Election game on….will Brown appear on the Sky TV Leader’s Debate, bring it on!
in your dreams….
Brown is fast turning into the “Mr Micawber” of British politics always waiting fort”things to turn up” although it seems he has not taken all of Micawber’s strictures to heart
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.”
Well said Lizzie and as a bit of a conspiracist (no, really?) I suspect that Brown is yet another psychological weapon to wear down the honest and well intentioned people of the British Isles/world so that eventually, ‘they’ hope we won’t care what they do or what they implement…..how wrong they are from my pov. Albert Pike sets out the agenda in his famous ‘Three World Wars’ document:
“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.
Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue
will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…
We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.
Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
After all that, and the Third World War….can we start afresh?
Knowing how important the self-immolating and regenerating ‘phoenix’ bird logo is to these people, they destroy to rebuild and their ancestors have done this throughout millenia imo. Hence their current logo on the $1 bill ‘order ab chao’ – ‘order out of chaos’. ‘They’ give us the chaos so the current order gets destroyed and ‘they’ provide their new ‘version’ of the ‘matrix’ to suit their ongoing, tyrannical, despotic agenda. Rather like Windows 7 replacing Windows 6…..simples!
So yes, we will have to rebuild as previous generations have rebuilt – but we must prevent ‘them’ creating their next version which, imo, is even Orwell’s worst nightmare…..those of us who are still around that is dot dot dot.
Stop sustaining them through the energy of your thoughts.
So then, Mr Ned – begs the question to your previous reply:
“Stop sustaining them through the energy of your thoughts.”
Why do we come here every day? Is THIS not sustaining ‘them’ – or with all due respect is that OK cos Mr Ned does it?????
It’s become apparent to me that my raison d’etre is to aquire all the info I can about ‘them’ and just what they’ve done to humanity down the centuries, then try to point it out to others so that THEY can also ’see and hear’. Then given that there is power in numbers, we might all put an end to this cycle of despotism BY IGNORING THEM as I said in a post yesterday…
Only when we know the Truth can we choose not to buy into the lies any more – imo, of course.
No offence intended Mr Ned.
Question for all co-conspirators – Do you know where all the Labour MPs were yesterday who should have been in the House of Commons debating the Queens’ speech? Where were they at this last time to discuss their front bench’s proposed legislative agenda ahead of the general election? Did anyone see any of them out and about?
Checking out the vacancies at job centre more than likey.
I’m having a coffee morning.
Apparently the EU leaders are having some difficulty choosing a President. Well, I’ve got an idea, quaint and old fashioned that it may seem. Why not hold an election amongst……..and I hesitate to use this word…..the, er… people? Y’know those mugs who actually pay your fucking wages, you duplicitous lying bastards!
Well said, except it would probably turn into a farce just like the Eurovision Song Contest!
The Rumpy Tumpy fucker from Belgium is the favourite – he wants all sporting/civic events to have the Euro anthem played and to have specific tax to pay for his corrupt b’stards.
That grey bastard is even worse than Blair!
We need to get out of the EU altogether! the tories are not going to do that are they?
WE ARE THE PARTY OF HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT AND HIGH TAXES.
WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET
A RED FACED OLD ETONIAN WHO HASN’T A FUCKING CLUE
At long last,an honest politician
He won’t get my vote
It’s your vote, but be careful what you “vote” for, five more years of THIS government, you appear to be a glutton for punishment!
Sure! I think you need to get out more.
Whilst we are living under increasing ‘official’ unemployment and the number of economically inactive Brits is now at an all-time record high.
And we have the highest peace-time taxes in history too.
I am no fan of Cameron, but labour are clearly far far far far far worse!
I think the “choice” at the next election of tory vs labour is like asking if I would like to step barefoot in dogshit (tory) or stand barefoot on the pointy end of a rusty-nail that is covered in dogshit (labour)
I’m sure ‘Dan’ (no surname) won’t mind my using his post as imo it’s highly relevant to the ongoing spin, ’smoke and mirror’ ‘reality matrix’ we ‘live’ in:
Dan said (November 19, 2009):
“Remember Faye Dunnaway’s line in the movie Network (1976), where she argues with Network chief Frank Hacket (Robert Duvall) to keep Howard Beal (‘madman of the airwaves’) on because he’s “articulating the public rage”. ?
Son of Carter Administration Voice of America director Peter Straus, Eric Straus told me in 1977 that Network is how it really works.
Dobbs isn’t wacko like Howard Beale, but the Network (in Illuminati parlance) always have a spot for guys like Dobbs, Glen Beck, and Rush Limbaugh to fill that role of “articulating the public rage”.
It turns out that little to our knowledge the Beatles, Rolling Stones and others didn’t write those songs. A German of the Frankfurt School born September 11th 1903 named Theodor Ludwig Adorno did. Americans never knew this and still don’t.
Adorno said in a German interview (w/subtitles) years ago that the combining of political protest against the Viet Nam war with pop rock music trivialized the protest because that context makes war and atrocities just another consumer item. War, serial killers, economic crashes become processed in the minds of the media consumer with cartoons, sitcoms, beer and McDonalds. This is shown in a montage at the close of the ‘76 movie Network too.
I believe Dobbs leaving the Network at this time is essentially the same thing as when I look up Windows 2000 on Microsoft’s support website and get a page that says, “Microsoft no longer supports Windows 2000″. It means like it or not, the demographic of public who’s rage Dobbs articulated (baby boomers) has reached their ‘expiration date’ as far as the Networks are concerned. It means they no longer consider us enough of a threat to bother to give us a representative in the simulacrum of television ‘reality’ .
It’s all on that shill Beck’s shoulders now, notice he’s a bit younger than Dodd. I suppose he articulates the rage of those born 1960-1970.”
http://www.henrymakow.com/lou_dobbs_leaves_cabala_news_n.html
just kick it up the bloody field, ffs!!
The Fiscal Responsibilities Bill is already in tatters. Who could even dream up such a piece of hypocrisy, in light of this:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Public-Sector-Borrowing-114-Billion-In-October-Says-Office-For-National-Statistics/Article/200911315457860?lpos=Business_Top_Stories_Header_2&lid=ARTICLE_15457860_Public_Sector_Borrowing_%3F11.4_Billion_In_October_Says_Office_For_National_Statistics
Announcing something which, logically, is an outright lie when people get to see the details?
Surely not. Not from such a trustworthy party as the labour party, who would never do such a thing.
It was the doubling of the lowest tax rate which made me finally realise just how badly labour (and specifically brown) tell outright lies in a bid to hide what they’re doing and that they just shit on as many people as they possibly can. (I always knew they were snide and lied, but that was the first time I saw it being so blatent and totally intentional)
Say: “We’ll abolish tax for the poorest in our society”
Do/Mean: “We’ll double tax for the poorest in our society”
These kind of snide outright lies would have been a resigning matter 13 years ago; I’m not sure how the media and the rest of parliament let labour/brown get away with it. He doesn’t even get called to account in the commons when he tells outright lies. Something’s very very rotten in how labour govern.
This is why it doesn’t matter what Brown/Labour say anymore; everybody knows that everything they say is just complete lies.
Did you mention Brian Norman Parkinson?
Mongrel, no idea why but dr1vel is on the mod list. Shit and crap are okay though…
steve, since you came back here after completing your heroin rehab I have gone quite easy on you.
but not any more.
what the fuck do you think this place is steve? your front room, c’unt?
if you have garbage personal posts that you wish to send to your boyfriends then email them you fucking retard.
stop wasting thread space and the readers’ precious time by posting your inane drivel here you boring fucking c’unt.
you and engineer are taking the fucking piss.
raise your game or fuck off steve expat.
thankyou.