September 28th, 2009

+++ BBC : Brown Agrees to TV Debate +++


180 Comments

  1. 1
    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    What a laugh that will be-can’t wait. Thanks.

  2. 2
    Ryan says:

    Well he had to didn’t he?

    Damned if you do and damned if you dont springs to mind…

    Things is its Cameron who stands to lose the most from this as he is already ahead

    • 27

      Broon’s got no chance debating with Cameron – Imagine if it ends up like the last few PMQs, with Cameron asking the same question over and over again and it not being answered, only for Broon to u-turn a few weeks later…

      …and outside the House Broon can be called the liar that he is.

      • 101
        Anonymous says:

        except brown will come out with amazing lies that can’t even be countered as they’d be so high in the sky they’d be nothing to pin down and have so many contradictions in themselves that any counter-argument won’t make sense.

        He will real out tractor stats which cannot easily be countered either without sounding excessive, or boring.

        He will also be able to say that they did something about the recession (caused it!!) which is evident that we’re not all dead yet which as you can’t prove a negative then it’s hard to say they did the wrong thing (which they have)

        All this will then allow brown to think he has ‘won’.

        • 122
          Sky+ says:

          Dave will need to be careful.
          Brown got the 10p out in the budget as a win over him (no criticism)
          If Dave had a few more minutes he could have retorted, probably his biggest regret to date (but also everyone else ignored the toxicity of it until it was implemented…. sad)
          Also it shows if you make a big lie and keep repeating it some people will be taken in
          Dave must use language that the average jo understands
          Gordo cannot do that

          • Great Granddad says:

            McKhaki does have one phrase that the average joe can understand and he can be expected to use it every time he is stuck. “It was the right thing to do.”

    • 97
      Cynic says:

      Err no… Gordon is so awful he has the capacity to make it worse

      • 174
        Anonymous says:

        All depends on the format and “management” of the debate, but if McUckoo’s coaching started today, I doubt he would remember more than a small percentage of it for when it mattered – he’s a 5th rate academic up against a pretty fair media player.

  3. 3
    298,257 says:

    Is that Brown debating with a TV …. sounds about right. Will he switch it on do you think ?

  4. 4
    baiter says:

    Will it be a mass debate?

  5. 5

    I think your headline should read – “BBC: cunts”.

    • 38
      Jolyon Wagg says:

      Seconded.

    • 99
      Clive says:

      Reminds me of….

      You don’t have to put TV Centre, just address the letter…

      ‘Hoon,London’

      and it will reach the Director General!!

      I knew that would find him

      Yeah!
      You can be certain of that.

      ‘The Horn’

  6. 6
    Ratsniffer says:

    Two things made my craw rise on Pravda at 10:00. Mandlesnake’s shit-eating grin as he smarmed his way through a conference speech so oily I am surprised that the delegates were not washed away in a tsunami of slime.

    And, second, there in the wings, Neil Pillock, clapping like a deranged groupie at the Dark Lord’s speech.

    Two Euro lovers, who’ve both benefited from the largess of the EU…it makes you want to reach for the industrial sized sick bucket.

    • 57
      Geordie Boy says:

      The Blathering Boyo and his fucking rat-faced wife are despicable. They’ve raked in so many salaries and pensions for themselves and their verminous offspring that they could carpet Snowdonia if tenners.

    • 64
      Susie says:

      You missed Paxo’s to Beckett, “I think we can agree that there certainly isn’t the warmth felt by the electorate toward the Conservatives that you and the incoming Blair government enjoyed in 1997…”

      Followed by Beckett’s reply “I think people forget the immense scale of the damage we were faced with…” and Paxo let her witter on, warming to her theme of how they struggled in the early years. I just gagged.

      Totally unreal.

      • 133
        Sky+ says:

        good spot these sneaky sleazy lines are common practice in the media
        what people do not want to discuss is the country in 1979
        and what really annoys me about nu lab is the ADOPTION OF TORY POLICIES DURING THE 80S ETC have any significant laws been reformed?
        we all know labour went right to get elected and now they do not know where to go after broons “10 year kiddy in a sweet shop” period. No wonder he feels ill.

      • 155
        Ratsniffer says:

        Fucking cheek! They were handed a set of accounts by the treasury which were in such good shape that an official remarked as much to Broon, who is said to have replied “what do you fucking want me to do, say thanks to the tories?”

    • 94
      13eastie says:

      Tsunami of slime? Is there where all the delegates have gone?

      • 151
        Grimy Miner says:

        Lord Mandleson of Foy in the county of Hertfordshire and Hartlepool in the County of Durham and Tsunami of slime in the county of Hoon.

  7. 7
    ­Phil O'Pastree says:

    He’s mad. What drugs is Mandlescum feeding the poor bloke now?

  8. 9
    Olly boy says:

    My prediction:

    Cameron

    knocked out

    30 seconds into the first round

    by a flying Nokia.

  9. 10
    Mass debater says:

    Can’t await. Gordon can harp on about the “real choice” and all his lies about debt and his record can be exposed to millions

    • 23
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      I wonder who will pose the questions up for debate? Anyway, they are just puppets. The real power is beyond either of them: It’s us this time hopefully and they should debate about what we want them to do.

      • 105
        Norman Bates says:

        The key role is the Chairman (or woman I guess).

        They must stop each leader prattling and maintain a bloody tight grip on the question discipline, they must answer question not simply bluster and BS their way through.

        Does anyone think that that is within Private Frazer’s capability?

        DOOMED!

  10. 11
    Scenic says:

    On the US debates candidates tend to come across well if they are polite to their opponent, calm, controlled and relaxed, able to take in points and respond off the cuff rather than reel off lists or deliver pre-rehearsed speeches that ignore the flow of the debate.

    Oh dear.

  11. 12
    David Bellamy says:

    All part of Mandelsnake’s “Feel Sorry for Gordon” campaign.

    Quiz him about taking anti-depressants he tells you about losing an eye!

    He’s bonkers.

  12. 15
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Its never happen – he’s saying yes now because he knows full well he’ll have resigned on “health” grounds when the time comes.

  13. 16
    Brown Eye says:

    The daft Hoon must have over done the pills this evening.

  14. 17
    hogg says:

    Ipsos Mori survey puts the Tories on 36%, Labour on 24% and the Liberal Democrats on 25%.

    • 56
      I hope I wake up and find this has all been a bad dream says:

      24% think Labour are the best party, after Labour trashed England and buried it in debt so Brown could spray money over Scotland? Brown’s sudden love affair with middle-England is about as genuine as Ahmedinejad going on Iranian TV and praising Jewish Culture. One in four think Clegg’s imbecile band of flip-flopping Liberal vermin are the best? And 36% look at Dave “heir to Blair, I’ve got a windmill” Camoron, standing next to that utter halfwit George “carry on spending like Brown” Osborne, and think; yes, these people are the best?

      Fuck.

  15. 18
    Anonymous says:

    These debates will of course be used by Mandleson to show up comparisons not with Cameron and Brown but in the eyes of the Party faithful Mandleson awith Brown. Providing Mandleson with the ideal platform for the leadership of the party once Labour lose the election, which mandleson knows in his heart of hearts is a certaintity.

  16. 20
    Mummer says:

    Mandelson looks like he has a liberal coating of KY Jelly

  17. 24
    gongo says:

    WTF is this leftie luvvie fat сunt on about?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8279758.stm

  18. 25
    Anonymous says:

    First Question

    Will either of you raise taxes ?

    *silence*

  19. 28
    Ex says:

    It will never happen.

    BBC Quote: “Then Tory leader John Major did so just before the 1997 general election but the political parties and the broadcasters could not agree on a format acceptable to all sides in the time available. ”

    One tiny biased request by GB and DC will look a fool to refuse but suffer if he accepts. Needs a independent body to run with no participant making demands.

    Tories should never have requested it. Should have waited for TV to set rules and then they could have accepted those rules not an open ended commitment.

    Not clever.

    • 34
      Scenic says:

      What would Gordon possibly request that could help him? Tony Blair to do it instead?

      • 37
        Ex says:

        No mentioning “Boom and Bust”!

        • 85
          Moral Compass says:

          Or gold.

          or pensions.

          or savings.

          or the NHS.

          or the record national debt.

          or Afghanistan.

          or Libya.

          or BP oil deals.

          or immigration.

          or crime.

          or the environment

          or the new runway at Heathrow.

          or unilateral nuclear disarmament, just as Iran starts to kick off.

          or working family tax credits.

          or doubling of income tax for the poorest workers

          or failure to tackle benefit fraud.

          or unemployment.

          You can talk about “big important decisions”, though.

    • 67
      I;m not mad just Bad Gordon Brown lived here 2009-2015 Broadmoor Hospital G20 Ward says:

      The law has changed and the TV companies can hold a leaders debate and leave one of them out in an empty chair. SO he is fkd, there will be a debate.

      Personally I think we shold be debating what fkg drugs the Hoon is taking

  20. 29
    Anonymous says:

    It’ll probably end up being Derren Brown to pull off the biggest trick of his career – to make us vote those wankers back in!

  21. 30
    Fred Goodwin's Duck Palace says:

    This is being done to try and silence the challengers and the leadership plotting by raising the prospect of Brown actually fighting an Election campaign insead of stepping down or being replaced in a leadership contest

    Don’t believe the spin.
    This is months away at best and is intended as a distraction.

  22. 31
    Cheese Lover says:

    “…O.K.
    Just a little pin prick.
    There’ll be no more aaaaaaaaah!
    But you may feel a little sick.
    Can you stand up?
    I do believe it’s working, good.
    That’ll keep you going through the show
    Come on it’s time to go.
    …”

  23. 33
    Old Street says:

    Who the fuck persuaded snotty that he was going to look good in the glare of live tv spot lights going up against a highly polished cameron.

    Suppose his strategy will be to bludgeon everybody with a tractor stat after tractor stat.

  24. 35
    Anonymous says:

    It’s a con by Brown. He tries to gain kudos by agreeing to a live TV debate (s) but quietly drops it nearer the election. He then hopes no-one will notice with all the other stuff going on by then.

    • 47
      lolol says:

      What am I going to do with all the popcorn Iv’e bought in for this event,he has said yes therefore a non apearance will show his courage is only in the books he writes and that will piss people off.

      • 53
        Anonymous says:

        Brown might say he will appear live on TV against Cameron but he has no intention of seeing it through and it will never happen.

        Brown is an inveterate liar and a coward.

        • 113
          Anonymous says:

          I expect he may even bottle it by tomorrow and it’ll be some vague wish to want to think about doing a tv interview in the same programme as another leader.

          Which won’t happen either.

  25. 36
    Turkish Dr Who says:

    “Oh, I need a dirty dirty woman”

  26. 39

    Ah, now he has the so called “sympathy vote” from the fuckwits who would vote for a corpse, he has the undeveloped balls to agree.

    What a wanker.

  27. 41
    Anonymous says:

    Why do we tolerate a prime minister addicted to valium? We can’t afford another 9 months of deranged sociopath Brown.

  28. 44
    Scouser says:

    I love seeing the odious Kinnock back on the telly. It means thousands more lost votes for Labour and a determination by everyone else to vote these bastards out.

    • 45
      Anonymous says:

      They looked like a nest of disease ridden, scuttling cockroaches in that hall in Brighton. These Labour scum appear barely human.

    • 78
      Susie says:

      “Well AWWWWWRIIIIIGHT! AWWWWWRIIIIIGHT…!!!”

      • 84
        Anon says:

        Keep taking the drugs Susie.

        • 111
          Not Alex Jones- Honest!!! says:

          I think Susie was trying to impress us with her impression of Kinnock at the infamous 1992 Sheffield rally.

          There was something wrong about that whole episode. It was as if he was asked to throw the election because Labour looked like they might actually win the bloody thing. Then there was the front page of the Sun on election day. Hey presto! The Tories snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

          No wonder conspiracy theories are so popular these days.

          Then again, Kinnock may not have been forced to throw it due to the hidden-hand of an all-powerful bank elite.

          It may just be because the bloke is an absolutely clueless twat.

  29. 49
    Obama is a Twat says:

    Does McTwat know he will be ON THE DEBATE not watching it tied to a hospital bed with foam coming from his mouth?

  30. 54
    I;m not mad just Bad Gordon Brown lived here 2009-2015 Broadmore Hospital G20 Ward says:

    My spies tell me.
    Gordon’s advisers have been negotiating and it looks like there will be three leaders debates and two other debates one on the economy Chancellor and the other Home Secretary.

    The three leader’s debates will be on BBC1, SKY and ITV.

    Jeremy Paxil will host BBC’s programme
    Sky’s programme will feature adverts by all known drug companies & Nokia
    ELI LILLY and Prozac will sponsor ITV’s programme

  31. 54
    A firm pair of breasts says:

    I won’t be watching.

  32. 58
    Scenic says:

    On Newsnight it said Brown had agreed to live TV debates, plural, during the election – AND IN THE MONTHS BEFORE :?

  33. 63
    Mandy_for_Girls says:

    I’ve just thought up a new change of name for New Labour

    Foreign Labour!

  34. 65
    Double Dither says:

    Rewrite: Sky now reporting that Brown will not announce he’ll do the debate tomorrow in his speech

    • 70
      Dubya and Pain are redneck submentals says:

      announce away Brown

      it will be worth as much as all your previous spin and worthless announcements
      and you won’t be around to fight the election campaign by then anyway

  35. 68
    Kit says:

    I look forward to it.

    How are they going to deal with all the other parties who, in the interest of fairness, should be getting the same amount of air time?

  36. 69
    gongo says:

    Toynbee an Toilets on Newsnight now.

  37. 71
    Anonymous says:

    If Brown mentions one more time his father, son of the manse, his upbringing, his sporting accident, his operations, his hard working families, courage, getting on with the job, saving the world, financial prudence, right decisions for the right times, it started in America, I saved the banks, vision for the future, ad nauseam… I will go stark raving mad.

    • 83
      SmogMonster says:

      Have you noticed, the new thing is ‘fight’. It’s all fightback, fight the recession, fight for the future, fight of our lives etc. If they’re so keen fighting they should piss off to Afghanistan.

    • 164
      The Ape man commeth says:

      What the fuck is a manse anyway? No doubt it’s a God fearing sweaty cold fish of some sort but sounds more like a piece of medieval window frame to me, and who gives a toss what his dad was even if he was a piece of medieval masonry. It only goes to show how deranged the Scottish Monster is to bang on about something that most people have never heard of. The mad fuck, will probably be calling himself the creation of a howe truss or the deck cant in a carling sole next.

  38. 75
    Mass Debate says:

    Mandelson: You must announce youre doing the TV debate
    Brown: Ill put it in my speech
    Mandelson: Great idea Gordon
    Brown: Ive had Nick Robinson trail it on the 10 O’Clock News
    Mandelson: On second thoughts… Is it such a good idea?
    Brown: Get Boulton and abhort!!!

    • 87
      Fuck 'em All says:

      Exactly. We’re governed by drug-taking media whores not the wankers who are notionally and temporarily voted in to positions far beyond their capability.

      Media fuckwits have their shareholders to account to, not us simple voters.

      Sick to death of this shit.

  39. 86
    Militantly Undecided says:

    Further evidence of the PM’s failing grip on his sanity?

  40. 88
    The Simmons Family Barden Road Barwell says:

    We’re going to terrorise you all and there’s nothing you can do about it.

  41. 91
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    An early take of Bruins training video for this has been leaked! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a4_1254158367

  42. 92

    So who’s going to do the Brown TV debate bingo cards ?

    • 102
      chronic says:

      Hard working families should be getting on with the job and maybe be they should start it in America, if they fail they should have no reward.

  43. 100
    Cynic says:

    Oh well 6 months should allow the pharma companies to develop a big enough liquid cosh to stop him exploding all over the studio

    • 116
      lolol says:

      I want him to explode on telly,maybe the underclass will be watching on their 52 inch plasma tv with cinema sound and see what a piece of sh*t they didn’t voted in and come to their senses and vote for some other lieing tw*ts.

  44. 108
    Selfsatisfied says:

    ” Nurse Mr Brown’s out of bed again!!”

  45. 115
    freddie flintoff says:

    eh up lads , got a new book out ” ashes to ashes ” , dubya great wish you was all here

    oh if you got a few bob ( unless gordon nicked em of ya ) spare change for a worthy cause below

    cheers lads

    http://www.affoundation.co.uk/

  46. 118
    lolol says:

    I don’t know whats worse on Sky papers review,that horrible Liebour baroness or a pc woman Guardian journalist .

  47. 119

    Every minute that rediculous gurning mug is on the telly, another few thousand people decide that he must be kicked out at all costs.

    Anyone but Broon would be better for them right now. If the polls show a few ticks up this week (as would be expected), what’s the chance of him going to the Palace on the day of Cameron’s speech next week..?

  48. 121
    Houdini says:

    Blair agreed to meet Rose Gentle many times, publicly…but never did.

  49. 124
    Anonymous says:

    Will Brown insist the BBC play the Rocky soundtack to Browns “fightback/underdog” entrance to the tv debates

  50. 125
    Patriotic says:

    Christ almighty McBottler agreeing to this someone must have poured concrete in his backbone although if its Boulton er er er er the fat plonker dont expect too much,my dog does interviews better than him.
    Cameron must be delighted he will demolish this nutcase without even trying and as for Cleggover he is also ran.
    On reflection I see brown hatter Mandelscums hand in this it probably wont happen but who cares liebour are out big time.
    The Nuliebour bunch of treasonable traitors to this country in past times ie:-civil war would have been executed no doubt.
    The nuliebour party are the biggest disaster to happen to this country since the civil war.
    My one word to them is f— off with your globalisation agenda you bunch of anti english bastards,you should be ashamed of yourselves on behalf of this british nation.
    Finally I hope all you lot die the most horrible death possible you bunch of traitors.

    • 161
      Mark H says:

      Um, that’s 24 words. Counting’s not your strong point then. Bit like the Great McBroon Himself. However, #125 itself is spot-on although I would think that this disaster is much worse than the Civil War. That little event helped mould Britain into the jolly nice place that it was – McBroon and Bliar have managed to dismantle in 12 years what has taken centuries to build up. Damn them all to Hell….

  51. 130
    Farcanal says:

    I’ll watch it, only if Mr Griffin is on too.

  52. 131
    Anonymous says:

    That Bolton’ s an impartial interviewer. Ask his Mrs.

  53. 132

    Brown wil say he will do it then at the last minute he will wet his pants and run to the bunker.
    Guess if Sky do go ahead and hold the debate and Cyclops is represented by an empty chair, then Liebore will say Sky lost them the GE.

  54. 135
    Anonymous says:

    To be honest I can’t see a lightweight like Cameron striking fear into the heart of anyone.

    • 150
      jgm2 says:

      Well, do you know, that’s just what I thought until he gave his 2007 conference speech and scared the shit out of Brown so much that he bottled an election he would certainly have won.

      • 166
        Mark H says:

        Well said, jgm2. Camoron doesn’t always pick the right fight in PMQs but he’s pretty nifty at thinking on his feet, with some great putdowns – think of his picking up on Ballsup’s quiet “it doesn’t matter” comment. People say Camoron’s a lightweight but, let’s face it, if you were leading a party that had some ideas to put things right, would you announce them all just so ZNL could bail themselves out? No, neither would I. Let’s wait until the electioneering starts in earnest and judge him then. I’ll be the first to throw a rotten tomato if he screws up (but I don’t think he will).

  55. 143
    Gideon says:

    Well, he puts the willies up me.

  56. 145
    Down with Brown! says:

    “We need some good news to announce ahead of my speech.”

    “There is no good news, Prime Minister, the economy is broken and the country is heading down the toilet.”

    “Ah well, we will just announce I’m ready to debate.”

  57. 152
    politically un-correct social worker(retired) says:

    I hear Gordon is going to talk about getting tough on anti-social behaviour, in his speech today. Shamelessly exploiting the public outrage about the poor family in Barwell – he won’t explain why Nulabour have failed to get to grips with this kind of thing over the last 12 years in spite of endless policies and initiatives not to mention loads of public money.
    OT but did anyone see the Dispatches programme last night – Alex Thomson (Ch 4 news) did a very nice expose of MPs ‘jollies’ over the summer recess, on ‘fact finding missions’ all on public money to exotic places such as Tonga (!oh the irony). Well they wouldn’t go to Rochdale would they

  58. 153
    Anonymous says:

    According to BBC Nick Robinson this commitment has been dropped from Brown’s speech today, so I guess it will never happen……

  59. 157
    Michael says:

    He MIGHT just get the sympathy vote if he had a massive heart attack on screen – might be worth a try Gordon?

  60. 159
    HASH BROWN SAVIOUR OF THE UNIVERSE says:

    He Must Know He Wont Be Leader By Then !

  61. 160
    HASH BROWN SAVIOUR OF THE UNIVERSE says:

    When You Think How Desperate This Clown Was To Remove Blair, And When He did .The Total Fuck Up He Made Of It. How Embarased Must He Feel , And How Smug Must Blair Feel ?

    • 162
      Michael says:

      Loathe him or dislike him – you can’t fault Blair’s timing.

      • 165
        Depressed? He ought to be says:

        you are right – this complete car crash of a government is actually Blair’s car crash of a government. Blair ran for election and once elected decided that he didn’t want to do a whole term. Wonder if he will manipluate his way into Euro President and then not last the term there? He stitched us up good and proper.

  62. 163
    Depressed? He ought to be says:

    Bloody hell – they asked him this question ages ago and he has just got round to answering! What a pratt – who cares? He has dithered about it for so long and it has taken up so much needless time when he could have just said yes or no immediately.
    I will only watch it if he dresses as Darth Vader.

    • 170
      Ghost of Syd says:

      He was considering saying no so he could spend time setting out his vision.

      Not that there’s anything wrong with his mind … err, I mean eyesight.

  63. 168
    WobblyJim says:

    BrownStain has zero concept of “Debate”, he never hears what is being spoken and he never answers any question. He may respond to a question, but his responses are always nothing to do with the question.

    He only knows deceit, he only speaks lies.
    He is stuck in the early 20th century, where the reality of truth was hidden behind the BBC (Bullshite, Bollocks and Crap) and the dead-tree press. When pols could lie and easily get away with it.

    He knows nothing about nothing, he is simply an appointed crony who is so way out of his depth and a massive embarrassment to the country, himself and his party.

    His only reply to anything comprises useless, irrelevant and false numbers/facts or an attack on the Tories – an obsolete paradigm is what Brown is.

    He’s our equivalent to Comical Ali.

  64. 169
    Ghost of Syd says:

    Will it be like that scene in The Wall where Pink is being revived with uppers so he can stagger on stage for the gig?

  65. 177
    Great Granddad says:

    I keep seeing mention of three. Really. Is that all. What about us supporters of the Monster Raving Loony Party? We shall expect to see whatsisname there.

    • 178
      bandersnatch says:

      Alan”Howlin Laud” Hope… current leader of the Monster Raving Loony Party… him with the white cowboy hat… Yep, he should be there too.

  66. 179
    Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

    No time at present to indulge one of my favourite pastimes and not read earlier posts. So apologies if this (O/T) matter has already been exhausted.

    The Sarah Brown ‘my husband, my hero’ speech had me puking, so ghastly and confected was it. To her shame, she delivered it as if she meant it. Uurrgh.

    Anyone else similarly nauseous?







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