Guide to Expense Lies
Guido’s guide to the lies you will be hearing:
“It has since been corrected” - I knew it was going to come out and it was such a blatant fiddle that I realised I had to repay the fraudulently claimed money before it came out.
“The Fees Office approved the payment“ – the Fees Office always take the word of “honourable” members. They always make the payment without question.
“It was a clerical error” – it was a small fiddle.
“Lessons have been learned“ – we have got away with it, but we won’t do it again.
“We need to have two homes to do our job properly” - why stay in a hotel when we can build a property portfolio at the public’s expense?
“Claims were made in good faith” - we have always got away with it in the past.
“It was within the rules” - MPs make the rules to suit themselves. MPs are lawmakers, judge and jury. It is a joke at our expense. They really are almost all at it. Now we can see…
I can’t wait another great weekend coming up.
Starting with Question Time (BBC) right now.
Get into them, Nadine. NuLabour BBC rentamob.
IS anybody watching the Jockanese Question time?
YE GODS
“DNA- Och, if yer’ve dun nuthing wrong, yer’ve nuthin’ to fear, ya ken”
Idiots. Absolute mind blowing IDIOTS.
Give the fuckers their independance as quickly as possible.
Steady OH, dear boy.
I’m Jockanese and I hate these bawheids as much as you.
Thanks for the offer though
BTW My English trouble ‘n strife votes SNP.
Och, ya hoor, I forgot to change my name from last time
Anyway, thanks again for the offer.
PS Love your posts.
there’s an awful lot of people in the audience who look like they’ve been at the fried mars bars…Course, I hate to generalise, but….
Question Time:
Nicola Sturgeon = intellegent & feisty
Nadine Dorries = ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<b<Old Borehorn is such a stupid, bigoted tosser. My grandfathers fought for the freedom of this country. You and your fellow bigots can take your anti-Scots bile and choke on it you hoon.
QT was a pile of poo. Nothing but Scots sticking up for Scots. David Steel was a total wet wanker. The audience had been packed out with NuLab supporters and the panel all behaved like tartan Huhnes. Cameron should keep Nod-deen off the telly or she’ll lose us the election.
Why not put all Scots DNA on a database if that is what they want?
Just because many of them have a strong hive mentality, it doesn’t have to matter to england.
Independence for Scotland means increased independence for England too – OK a the moment we get the worst of both worlds, but it needn’t always be so…
“@pp Why not put all Scots DNA on a database if that is what they want? Just because many of them have a strong hive mentality, it doesn’t have to matter to england.”
Apparently not as strong a hive mentality as the several cretins such as yourself who contaminate this site spouting this “they’re all the same” drivel.
Using your sort of twisted logic means English women are defined by Blears, Harperson, Smiff et al. and that English men are defined by Mandleson, Miliband and Hoon et al. What a prospect!
Guido wrote the script
Now play your part.
BLOG IT
Blogged it
here,
but my spider senses are tingling…
Okay, OH, thanks for the kick. Ya made me do it:
They’re all at it
BTW, if you have a spare few minutes, check out the Telegraph’s A-Z of MPs’ expenses:
‘A’ is for Aga
Go
Blog it all, all of you
This is it. You won’t get a better chance to bring 646 corrupt bastards to their knees.
Every spin doctor is in for a sleepless night, coffees are being brewed, favours are being called in. Mobiles are on fire, emails are alive. The 646 who rule every tiny detail of OUR lives are sweating blood.
Undermine it all.
BLOG IT. USE YOUR VOICE.
I finally get it, OH.
Enough is enough!
http://moneyistheway.blogspot.com/2009/05/enough-is-enough.html
Don’t follow my link above. I went too far. A rush of blood to the head.
Already done so!
The animation took minutes to complete so be gentle ………
This demands an IMMEDIATE general election, and the Queen should do something in her taxpayer pampered life and force that election, but we all know she loves New Labour, so no chance of that happening.
The Queen won’t save you. Politicians won’t save you.
Do as OH says. Start your own blog and link to other bloggers!
The Queen has no constitutional right to sack a government. Her last direct ancestor who thought they could was decapitated. The queen is a figurehead. She won’t be getting rid of anyone elected. Ever.
The Queen couldn’t get rid of this government even if she wanted to – she simply doesn’t have the power to do so.
The Queen has more powers than you think young padawn :
Domestic Affairs :
The appointment and dismissal of ministers;
The summoning, prorogation and dissolution of Parliament;
Royal assent to bills;
The appointment and regulation of the civil service;
The commissioning of officers in the armed forces;
Directing the disposition of the armed forces in the UK;
Appointment of Queen’s Counsel;
Issue and withdrawal of passports;
Prerogative of mercy. (Used to apply in capital punishment cases. Still used, eg to remedy errors in sentence calculation)
Granting honours;
Creation of corporations by Charter;
Foreign Affairs :
The making of treaties;
Declaration of war;
Deployment of armed forces overseas;
Recognition of foreign states;
Accreditation and reception of diplomats.
Now this was in 2003, and I don’t believe I have heard anything to negate the above list since.. but I’m not saying it’s absolute..
However, I can’t believe that HRH now or in the near future *can’t* remove Gordon Hoon and declare war on his sorry ass at the same time.. they just have to have the balls to do it.. which means public backing for a monachary again.. I’m all for a righteous political ass kicking.. how about you?
416, All of which are exercised by Parliament in her name. Thats the arrangement that lets the Windsors keep the big house in return for opening a few hospitals now and then. And in due course any dismissed Party will be elected again – the idiots elected Liebour despite the mess they made last time – and the bill to establish a Republic will be enacted shortly thereafter. So she won’t be kicking the corrupt ones out any time soon.
Although HM is Queen of both Australia and the UK, they are independent and have a constitution of their own. In our system Her Maj won’t dismiss Gordon. A coup would be unlikely too. And I suspect Guido would have trouble with a gunpowder plot, however popular either of these two options may be in the eyes of the electors.
The Queen CAN dissolve parliament and call a general election. This is well within her rights.
You forgot the Rowley Birkin Q.C. defence.
To whit, “I’m afraid that I was very, very drunk.”
But the fact of the matter is this is just the beginning and those MP’s not already ensconsed in a hiding place will already be planning their escape to an anonymous Hotel till this “all blows over” (it won’t) or getting furiously briefed by their Parties Communications drones in how to hide behind their families as they show “contrition” while promising never to get caught, sorry, do it again.
Good to see you have acknowledged just how huge this story is going to be Guido.
It will rumble on and on like an unstoppable avalanche of shit engulfing almost all in Westminser not nimble enough to have seen it coming or get out of the way and it WILL claim some scalps.
Can we expect some of these claims will be so utterly outrageous as to defy any coherent attempt to excuse or justify them ?
These are MP’s remember so, Yes. I for one certainly think so.
Chippy bigoted jocks, cut them free !
Yes!
Yes indeed!
Look at all the Scots on here whining about the English.
You can’t get much more Chippy or Bigoted than that now can you ?
Remember BLOG IT !!! because the tidal Wave of Headlines from the Newspapers and TV News in the following days and will have NO impact at all on the electorate compared to the awesome power of a blog.
If you care to read beyond the limits of a petulant five year old, I think you’ll find the opposite is true, dear boy.
not forgetting “it was within the rules”
If you care to read beyond the limits of a petulant five year old, I think you’ll find the opposite is true, dear boy.
Doh! Willl add that to the list.
…and as political betting says, across the pond they think mcmental has lost it ….
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/world/europe/08britain.html?_r=1&hpw
So amateur playground namecalling is the amusingly ironic way you choose to display proof positive of your own formidable abilities Vis-à-vis “reading beyond the limits of a petulant 5 year old” ?
Well played sir. Well played indeed.
Sadly in your clumsy rush to elucidate with that gem of enlightened Political discourse I think you’ll find you tragically neglected to post any coherent argument.
There are few things so limiting as namecalling and simple minded gainsaying, old fruit.
“This unprecedented, deepening expenses scandal started, as we all know, in America.”
BBC:”Deputy Labour leader Harriet Harman said no resignations were likely as all claims were within the rules.”
It begins…
Only the day after and already Harman is forced to deny Resignations will take place.
How very foolish. The subject is now broached and the speculation about WHO is most resignation-worthy can now begin in earnest.
– Harman attempts to deny Resignation speculation!
– Harman says “it doesn’t look good” later speculates as to the likelyhood of “Resignations”.
Like a lamb to the slaughter.
The word Resignation will now be catchword and Headline of choice for many, many, MANY days.
It was all within the rules that I made up.
Harpic Harridan Hate everyone (and leader of the House) on Toady this morning (little lisper giving her a reasonably good earbash). Her first response: “Well I think everyone except Derek Conway….!!
That’s right you dirty bog bend its only Conway that is corrupt and without redemption “the rest of us are trying very hard spew…vomit…vomit…spew….”
B*ollocks you great Lying Lieboar cretin.
Second plea in mitigation of corruption, sleaze and all-out crookery:
“We are not as bad as the continentals…..”
No shame, no apologies, no more chances. Bye bye liebour hopefully buried for centuries.
Economic War Crimes Tribunal here we come …bang em all up
Yes, she managed to slip ‘Conway’ into the interview twice..a sign of deperation….
sorry…. desperation..must tidy my workstation….
A bit rich (in every sense of the word) to say “we’re not as bad as the Continentals” — who, one wonders, does she mean?
Berlosconi, Tony’s holiday villa host of choice and Jowell’s husband’s partner in crime?
Or would it be those MEPs turning up with their wheelies at 7 am on a Friday to sign in for their day’s allowance, then making a rapid getaway for the w/e…. the very same system famously endorsed by her boss on his infamous YouTube video?
Or would it be the vermin in ermine himself… selflessly representing his constituents until the end — the end of his allowances, that is.
They make me puke and no, we won’t forget this — less than a month till the Euro/local elections.
Simply the best tirade that’s left me in stitches twice in the space of 24 hours. I haven’t laughed so hard in years – my hat is off to you Sir.
Bloody thieves! Off with their heads!
The Fees Office must be run by absolute crooks. Are they Scotsman by any chance?
Does anyone know who runs the fees office and more importantly what expenses are they claiming although, like the rest of Parliament, I am sure their honour and integrity is beyond reproach!
I cannot believe I just wrote that they must be putting something in our drinking water – I think I need a lie down.
It wis’na me.
Offhand I do not know who runs the fees office but I am guessing it would be someone like the Serjeant-at-arms who got the job for gender,and ease of corruptability, reasons.
No, they are junior civil servants who know that if they kick up a stink they’ll be posted to Cumbernauld or SHuhnehorpe or some other shit hole with no chance of promotion. So they keep their heads down and their noses pinched against the smell. Occasionally one gets promoted to Commissar For Standards once they have proved themselves to be completely without any spine or testicles.
The Penguin.
Phew, that’s a relief. For a moment there I thought perhaps that the civil service had been politicised….
Only if they are one of the 39 Liebour MPs. Not all Scottish MPs are Liebour.
It’s run by Andrew Walker. This is what was being said last year by Walker to the Information Tribunal:
“Andrew Walker, head of the House of Commons Fees Office, said that such scrutiny into MPs’ lives, such as finding out how much MPs spend on phone bills, improvements on their second homes and hotel bills, would “discourage able people from entering politics”.
He said: “If MPs spend all their time having to defend why they had changed this avocado suite to a white one when it was only ten years old…they are not spending time working for their constituents.
“My view is that it has gone far enough and is intrusion into members’ private lives.”
However, take a look at this:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3308659.ece
Does this help to clarify the position?
Excellent Times article – Looks like the Clerk deserves a mention on the wall of shame as well – bearing in mind that he appears to be into spending our money like there’s no tomorrow as well.
I hope, when Cameron arrives, the clerk’s profligate reign as Commissioner for fleecing the public and signing off anything that remotely resembles a bill comes to a sudden and final end.
Blears is stuffed but maybe she knew that when she wrote her article. PM’s one is interesting, but the rest looks pretty thin. The Tories wont make much out of this as they will get trashed on their expenses
….and the libDums, ScotNats, Cymru, Galloway, the irish mob are all clean are they? you SILLY little troll.
Of course they aren’t clean.
However, most of us are sure that their transgressions will be minimal compared with ZaNu MPs.
The very same MPs that have been in power over a decade and chose to do nothing about it as they fed themselves from the trough.
And continue to do so.
Lets see how David Cameron deals with his MPs compared with how McBruin deals with his charges.
calm down its just an expenses claim
Away and check them then!
The DT would have seen samples before they paid & decided to run this. Can’t see this being a damp squib.
From the BBC news site.. (yes, the fucking BBC of all people..) reporting on an allowance ‘discrepancy’ by the poisoned dwarf, Blears…
“Hazel is honest as the day is long,” said the spokesman…yeh right, as long as you’re in fucking North Pole in middle of winter she is…
I’ll bid you goodnight then, see you in the morning. Now where’s me cocoa…
” I admit to fraud and will hand my self into the Police immediately, furthermore I will resign as of now from my position as member of Parliament since I am clearly not fit to represent my constituents whom I have let down”………………Ha had you there, just kidding !!!
Fucking Hoons. Here we go….can’t wait for this one to break wide open…
You won’t read this in The Gordian
Kneepads is already spinning excuses and blaming leaks and poor standards of journalism….
The Penguin.
Heard on the BBC news at 10 – Gordon Brown repays £150 for “inadvertant error” on his expenses.
Looking forward to hearing the rest.
May he get what he deserves.
Any chance his repaying the billions of pounds squandered from our taxes?
No… didn’t think so.
And I don’t suppose he’ll be repaying the money stolen from my pension either!
exactly… this is all a big con to get the tories at the elections – GB has to repay a small amount just to make it look convincing, just nicely enough to detract from the Ghurkas car crash today.
It’s all a big con – how do we know it’s full information of labour stuff? – bound to be just enough to let them blag their way out and the tories to have done something illegal (as government will have decided what is/isn’t illegal)
And the DTP are doing it to try and get one up on this and other blogs.
The plumber did such a sp(l)iffing job Gordon decided to pay for it twice.
See, he is not the stereotypical tight-fisted jock.
Don’t worry about the Gurkha story. It’ll be back before Euro election time.
Yeah, who ever heard of a Scot paying a bill twicw?
Didn’t Bob Quick resign after his ‘inadvertent error’?
Wow.
I am just watching Sky and heard at least 3 of those excuses within 2 minutes!
“We need a reformed expenses system because the one that exists now is far too easy for us to abuse.”
The winning logic of Harriet Harperson.
Harperson will self destruct as she is incapable of saying anything which isnt idiotic.
If that were true I would still be wiping bits of Cherie Blair off my spectacles.
Didn’t she miss saying as it’s far to easy to abuse by the honourable mp’s
This is the second favourite to become Dear Leader after GB is defenestrated. I think the lie has been given to “the Devil looks after His own”.
Hah! Emir Arrant
Where’s that snivelling bitch now with her butt plugs and porn? Complete fucking disgrace the lot of them – anyone on the two-home claim shit wants burning in public. Just can’t stand this complete lack of respect for the people they’re supposed to be ‘serving’.
I give Smith a week at most, she is toast.
I wouldn’t give her the time of day.
i wouldnt even give her one with yours…
No you know why YelevisionX rules compared to this government. except for the excellent Jacqui Smith.
Harperson had the most amazing blink rate in the Sky News interview. Must have been real hard thinking up lies on the spot and bullshitting the interviewer and audience watching.
Hardbint on GMTV getting absolutely ripped another one. On GMTV FFS!
the interviewer just called her ‘ underhand and devious’
Heres another excuse Hardblink just used
“It does not get paid out unless its within the rules”
LIES LIES LIES How come brown has to pay back some then?
I noticed that — a blink every 3 seconds. Jeeez they can’t even lie convincingly now.
120 seconds into question time and Gordon is getting a kicking immediately !
David Steel is an odious creep.
By the man who ate all the deep fried mars bars
maybe so but he paid for them himself not like fatso prescot
The Beeb must have picked Nadine deliberately to wind up the Scots with her posh southern tory accent
I thought that she was a Scouser.
I’m Scottish.
“Southern” ?
She’s a scouser, ain’t she ?
Not a particularly posh accent really.
I’m Scots and I am quite partial to her accent (& Nadine too). Blush.
Nad is as common as muck, which is why I’ve got a hard spot for her. You are a Hoon and there’s a place for you on Tyburn Tree.
If, like william Wallace and my guid self, you hail from Elderslie, then a Scouser is posh and southern . Anyway, she could pass for Cheshire on a dark night in a crowded pub.
yup shes a scouser, was from not far from me…
Odious creep, yes, some of the bloody lib’s are up the arse of Mc Broon esp. the jockland ones.
No government spokesperson on QT, suprise siprise
Balls and Cooper should make interesting reading – I’m sure they wouldn’t be claiming twice just because they share the same place. Would they ?
Harriet assures all claims were made in good faith.
Resurgam surely
“Hazel is honest as the day is long,” he said.
Has anyone seen the film ’30 days of night’?
http://tinyurl.com/2xt5s8
How come the vampire’s didn’t get her LMAO!
or as Madness so accurately put it
I’m as honest as the day is long -
The longer the daylight, the less I do wrong.
Pllleeeeeeeeasseeeeeee let that sanctomonious bitch Blears have to resign over this. She won’t of course she will bluff it and still be lecturing us next week while sucking the taxpayer teat
Fucking evil hypocritical cow
Busy getting on with the job of claiming expenses.
David Steel defending Gordon. Its Scottish jobs for Scottish workers.
Sickening, eh?
Not gonna get any sense out of a Question Time from Scotland.
The whole of the UK has Scottish politics to thank for the meltdown in the economy and the venality of this government.
(With apologies to Scots who don’t support Brown and are not part of the their utterly thuggish, criminal political class).
Its Fife FFS.
They should rename that wotsisname train, The Lying Scotsman.
East Fife 4 – Forfar 5
Dont blame we Scots for the meltdown of the economy.. we are suffering too you ken..
No, I’m Den. You’re Hannah. And someone else is Ken.
I see a lib lab pact coming over the horizon…..and look where the last one got them. Buckle your seatbelts and count your Ulster Unionists.
Not sure – they got screwed over by Blair, and Clegg has burned his bridges with Brown.
After the colusion between Cleggy and Dave at PMQs – agreed
Even with the bridge burnt, they could use the bodies of the labour cabinet members that will be dumped over the edge this coming week-end as stepping stones.
Not so sure, either. Clegg and Cameron were virtual collaborators on the Gurkha affair. Cameron might want the LibDems to be the official opposition. This could get interesting.
I agree we should encourage Brown to use you tube so we can see what an arsehole he is
Robinson falling over himself to defend Labour.
Knock me down with a feather
ow do we do a Joanna on him?
I can still see them, you naughty wee boy!
apparently one cabinet member even claimed for a 10p carrier bag on expenses, who is that tight?
The kind of person that would claim 88p for a bath plug?!
They are so cheap!!!, I have a fairly liberal expense account, but I’m the opposite, today I had to get a £2 parking ticket, I just threw it in the bin, its not worth claiming!
According to Gavin Eisler on Snoozenight, an MP claimed for a shopping bag.
These are people without honour.
Agreed I have similar but cups of coffee etc while travelling I just could not be arsed to record it then have to photocopy the receipt fill the 2nd list form in photocopy 3 copies of same etc etc. (one for auditors) In the real world we have to justify every single penny spent in the course of our duties.
Its government rules you know to prevent us engaging in fraudulent activities.
Och. Money disn’e grow on trees, ye ken.
A labour mp who hasn’t got a 2nd job so spends their free time leeching instead of creating.
The Independent 12th January 1997.
Max Clifford quoted as saying :
“I bring things to the attention of the British public which show people in power as they really are and I’m happy to do that as and when I can.”
Come on Maxy – you did it for Tory sleazebags – now it’s time to mount your white charger (15% is the going rate I believe) and do the same to Ingsoc?
Max? Where are you, Max…..
Isn’t he busy with those swine flu sufferers
Max Clifford is under no obligation to be fair and even handed, unlike Toenails.
He’s a fuckwit. Another greedy, thieving shit that molests for money preying on people’s weaknesses. I’d love nothing more than to hear of his jet crashing with him in it. Odious wanker.
He looks too much like Alistair Darling for my liking.
Waits he still daughter’s ramp?
Maxy has always been quite clear – since the childhood days when he was roughed up in the street by the local grammar school boys, he’s on a mission against ‘toffs’.
He’s also said that he’s kept a lot of embarrassing stuff from his own side out of the press. Wonder if knows anything about rocking horses?
ramp daughter’s not has she faults toff is it.
Max is Nu Labour – believe me.
Lynch the bastards. No other option.
I’m up for that. You bring the petrol, I’ll arrange the truncheons…..
I once resigned a job (the best of my life) because I got drunk at a Christmas party at work and threatened a manager that I would knock his block off if he reported me for being drunk on work premises. Little old me and my little family on the dole – and for what ??? A stupid drunken incident – totally out of character and despite 10 years of good service. Resignation was what was required of me and it was what I gave.
THAT, my friends, is the level of honour in meat world. THAT is the reality of standards in the ordinary work place. And yet MPs and Ministers excuse themselves by saying that they are reflecting conduct in the private sector when they systematically and repeatedly rip the system off.
Resignation is the price so often paid for failing to conform to standards of conduct out here.
Sure there are good and honest MPs. But don’t they see that by failing to have the courage to enforce resignations in order to uphold standards the whole integrity of the political system is brought into doubt ?
I have no sympathy with the innocents tarred with the same brush. They have brought it upon themselves.
Yes, no standards at all. Utterly hopeless. There’ll be Tory and Libs on the take as well but it seems engrained in this government. They’ve completely forgotten what they came to politics for and are now doing the grand job of Getting On with Fucking Up the Country. They’ve fucked the taxpayer, they’ve fucked the economy, they’ve lied, cheated, stolen and have shown a spectacular lack of vision and ability gauge public opinion. Court of Public Opinion? WTF? JacqBoots….what were you thinking? Utterly clueless, uselss snivelling shit – I wish I could beat the fucking bitch senseless with a truncheon.
Get in the Q…
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Mahatma_Gandhi/
Thanks for the link, OH and others for their responses.
I was required to resign and was so ashamed that it didn’t take much for me to do it. But the truth is that I was good at my job, this was a one off event totally out of character and what I’m trying to do is illustrate the difference in standards.
There weren’t really any public witnesses to my offence – a couple of company employees.
What we have here in Parliament is deliberate and consistent deception – much of it verging on fraud and theft.
Had the integrity of members been enforced early on through the requirement of resignation then standards would not have slipped like they have.
A country being destroyed by kleptocrats who have mortgaged the taxpayer to the hilt to pay for the bribery of their electoral clients.
An election please ASAP.
I knew we didn’t live in a democracy. Thanks for putting a name to what we DO have – a KLEPTOCRACY. What a perfect description.
Idiocracy.
kakistocracy
Hoonocracy.
I didn’t coin the phrase but it’s a mendacious thugocracy
Jockocracy
a Sham O’Cracy……….
O/T – well done Joanna Lumley for showing up Brown and Woolarse as lying to faced bastards!
Steve Richards doing his NuLab arsewiping act on Newsnight about the expenses: ” if it turns out we elected a bunch of crooks that would reflect on us!…It’s not mega million pound levels of corruption”
Er, what? Not so Stevie boy, all it means is that your NuLab mates are a bunch of thieves. Petty thieves at that!
Oh well thats alright then just let all the shoplifters go then !
Shoplifters of the world
Unite and take over
Hand it over
Hand it over
They do let shoplifters go already. Anything below £200 value, you can walk away.
This morning on Toady Woolas squirmed like a worm on Joanna’s hookri.
What is worse he must have known about the Gurkha Rifleman killed in Afghanistan yesterday. Shop him to the Taliban and while he’s waiting to be flayed alive see how much he appreciates the Gurkhas then.
Like ‘Lead off church roofs’. (Or it would be if you or I did this). I am very angry about this. We need a revulsion. I feel revolted and whilst it is entertaining it will turn into shear hatred at being ‘governed’ by crooks. Us Brits can take only so much whilst they take everything including the urine.
Doesn’t it say everything when Major has to weigh in with a response to say this government is worse than his and any comparisons are an insult to him and the truth
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/5292339/John-Major-on-Gordon-Brown-Britain-must-be-put-first.html
Brown, Gorbals Mick and the Scottish Question Time audience prove once and for all that the Scots are very, very stupid people. It must be all that inbreeding.
nah its all the freebies that Labour has scoffed to them in troughs for 12 years. They will lose it under the Tories.
Do not assume………….
Typical of the BBC to take Question time there and to Brown’s constituency this week.
There are a lot of fat people up there
Jesus, there are – it’s like a honey monster convention. Thick honey monsters at that…
I think I spotted Mc Bride! He’s camouflaged in that audience
I’ve told you all already, its Fife.
Choose elsewhere for your holiday. We’ve drunk wereselves blind on subsidies, and we’re learning to play the banjo.
The Scots were once a fine people, and many still are, but they have been destroyed by socialism and the corrupt dependency culture that has engendered – should be a warning to us all.
And to think that this was once the nation that built the Empire alongside the English. Tragic.
PS. Wales, thanks for helping out with the Zulus.
What a nasty comment.. Say what you like about Broon & Mick and many of the fucking arseholes that where in the QT audience (no doubt hand picked) but the Scots are not a stupid race, as history tells us.. Its the fucking Libeour voters that are inbred..
er, no.
the tories represent the upper class and everyone knows the upper class are the most inbred people around. inbreeding is a policy of the upper class.
please try harder to get your facts straight before posting.
thankyou.
Can it get wose for Brown, i mean how much can this govt take before it explodes in a nuclear blast.
I don’t know – there still seems plenty of stretch. They no longer resemble a govt by a slightly inept Public relations agency constantly trying to fend off scandals for their clients (the ministers) or smearing anyone who questions their propoganda. They seem to do very little governing these days.
They have no honour or sense of shame. They won’t go until forcibly kicked out. I wouldn’t be surprised to see elections cancelled because of some spurious terrorist threat.
Yeah. We’ll have to prize power out of McMental’s grasp. Like Mugabe, Brown and cronies are probably worried that the Tories will send a goodly number of them to jail – as Labour did to Aitken and Archer.
Another nail in the coffin… There will always be some thick fucker who’ll still vote for the greedy parasites, as QT is proving at the mo’.
The Jack Straw one is brilliant though… “Jack Straw used his expenses to claim back the entire council tax on his second home despite already having a 50% discount on it. ” (BBC news website)
Blakes’ 7′s right – great weekend coming up!!!!!
It does say he paid it back though, I’d LOVE to know when he paid it back!
Paying it back does NOT make it right. If a burglar offers to give your telly back after he’s caught, is that ok? No!
When he heard about the CD.
Obvious, innit.
Mercian & Lowperdowg, I agree with you both!
Jack Straw paid his money back last year, about a month after the court case was won and it was announced that the MPs’ expenses were going to be published.
Obviously wholly unconnected timing.
apparently straw paid it back yesterday. titter ye not
Hosting facilities available for this if your blog get shut. Don’t call me, just post here and I’ll call you. Offshore and out of reach of the UK authorities.
Its worth remembering there are a few MPs who will have made genuine mistakes. I feel I tiny bit sorry for them, as they will get tarred with the same brush as all those who have been lining their pockets and then when caught, claim it was all an “error”.
The whole thing will be damaging for politics. This isn’t a party issue, they’re all in the dock, and all will suffer.
And how we will enjoy it!
The truth is you can count the completly innocent in parliament on the fingers of one hand. They’ve all been working some kind of fiddle – all that is different is the varying degrees of corruption. Some are only minor, some are pushing on criminal.
Any miss use of taxpayers money is criminal.
Perhaps.
However, I wait to hear how many instances of error there are where the MP claimed too little ?
Is this not Dave’s Gordian knot?
Try that argument with the Revenue
ignorance of the law is no defence against wrongdoing
But that is only for the little people and Gordon and Jacqui are not little. (Unlike Hazel Blears?)
Let us leave the judgement and punishment of the MPs abuse of expenses entirely and solely to the Courts…
…the Courts of Public Opinion. I’ve got some chains. Who can supply some faggots.
Or we could be lenient by letting them all off with a suspended sentence …
… suspended by their necks.
Don’t bother with the faggots (unless you mean Mandlebum’s….) – we’ve wasted enough wood on printing their fucking expenses – I’d rather pay the tax on the petrol to set fire to them all in public. What’s left can go up the chimney in the local power station – get a few Megawatts out of them.
Most of them are faggots.
Only “most”? Surely more? All the better for fuelling the flames.
I honestly think im going to wet myself with excitement, the more odious creeps that get a shafting, the better. I await more announcements from the recently almost redeemed Telegraph…
don’t be fooled. bet there’s an agenda.
I agree – where’s the catch.
has Labour Dirty Tricks Inc leaked this early so that it does not get in the way of a late summer GE campaign?
The above comment was not posted by me!
However,
Nicola Sturgeon = intellegent & feisty
Nadine Dorries = uggghhhhhhhhhhhh
Gods alive that Jim Gray (purple-tied Labour) character on QT is most annoying. One small side of my character would like to see him fisted by a gorilla.
Is that so very wrong?
That’s quite a worrying mental vision you’ve given me there….
Cruelty to animals.
The one comment that’s made me laugh out loud. Brilliant!
Empirical purple, notice its prevalance at PMQ’s
No, not really. However, if we were being governed by people with morals and standards who put the country and people first, rather than feathering their own nests, then I’m afraid you would have to sit on the naughty step for five minutes.
Well, the Jim bit is. His name is Ian.
Apparently he looks like the perv in Family Guy.
He is the subject of a bizarre (and unreliable) story of perversion at
http://labourchanter.blogspot.com/
I think not. After all, if it weren’t for Jim Gray you wouldn’t have had the thought in the first place. It seems to have been caused entirely by Jim Gray. If I were you I would consider getting compensation for the distress and inconvenience he has caused you and your loved ones.
The unelected Joanna Lumley has made a big fuss for a couple of days and got the government the change the law. If someone went down to Westminster and had a bit of a shout I expect Brown would cave in and hold an election.
If I were Brown I’d go now. Given time, people might come to have a slightly fond memory of you in forty years or so (a bit like Harold Wilson – people don’t hate him, they’re just inffiferent). If Brown goes on – he’ll probably become infamous, remembered for decades or even centuries as a basket case of bad leadership.
Wilson was a crook too, and some of us haven’t forgotten.
I hate Wilson
I’ll just get my coat, Baron Kagan
Rumoured to have been a Soviet agent of influence.
I remember Wilson – buggered up the economy, resigned and left sonny jim to take the flak.
He also had some very murky eastern european friends who all appeared well connected to the kremlin.
If Wilsons boss Gaitskell had not suddenly contracted an extremely obscure untreatable disease and popped his clogs after a trip abroad Wilson would never have been the prime minister and who knows Labour and Britain as we knew it could easily have been a much nicer place.
Although I never had much time for him ,Wilson was not a greedy man and died very far from rich.Crossman in his diaries records that Wilson just had a small account in the Post Office.Indeed there was a government subvention needed to help with his medical fees after he developed alzeimers.It suggests that he had more principles than the “fill yer boots” merchants of new labour.
If you lazy bastards had done a bit of maintenance, you would’nt be in this mess
Best line today
Cokehead.
Gimme his address! I could do with a line
Could you get your mate Caligula to lend us Cincinnatus?We need something horse-faced to replace Jaqui Smith next week.
There’s nothing more horse-faced than Harriet Harridan!
But it’s called politics. Of course Steel defends Brown, he has always been just the right side of the law, possibly. As on e of his aides told me with relish, many years ago, Steel won a libel case when a paper showed him exiting a hotel after a night with “another” woman. Only mistake the paper made was naming the wrong woman.
If those are your ethics thieving from the taxpayer is clearly not an offence.
At least it wasn’t the wrong boy.
Makes a change, for these scum.
Important thing is that the Telegraph has uncensored receipts,slimy bastards were going to black out the addresses when they eventually fessed up to hide more sleaze.Whoever leaked this stuff should get a Knighthood.
Another pleasant evening at 10 Downing Street no doubt,Postie delivering another batch of Nokias in the morning.
Industrialised rubber-coated mobiles are available that can be dropped from 3 metres onto concrete and are stacca-truck resistant. Unfortunately, there is omly one claim on expenses!!!!
But are they Angry-Gordon-in-the-Bunker proof?
One rather suspects not
Two mattresses?
Yeah – well I pissed one. Y’kno – bit too much in the ol’ bladder, and a bit too muzzy to do much about it?
Lay orf will’ya!!
Two matresses or two mistresses?
“I was badger baiting on Hampstead Heath when I tripped up and found that my throat had become impaled upon George Michaels cock, MMMMR Speaker I am sure that the whole house will join me in expresssing my sincere apologies to this hard working young man who has done so much to enrich the lives of hard working global british families,
May I also say that the opposition , from whom I will take no lessons. are a shower of shit
They are my legacy to you!
Thanks for the bluffers guide Guido, but this government will just use it as an instruction manual.
I worked for an MP and have had a payment turned down – mind you it clearly had the wrong wording
Oh sky is getting into the middle of it, loads more to come.
Milliband thousands for gardening, drip drip drip
I’m getting extra beer and popcorn in for the weekend. It’s going to be fun watching Broon and his den of thieves getting their arses kicked.
Brogan was good on Newsnight, in a sentence cutting to the chase against the apologist lickspittling of Steve Richards and Lance Prick :
“Ordinary people view this as corruption.”
Precisely.
The trouble is that our employees, the media and politicians, view themselves as special.
It can’t be a coincidence this happening so soon after Brogan joined from the Mail. Perhaps he brought the story with him. Mail must be pissed off.
McDoom paid his brother 6 grand for cleaning services??
At this rate not even the scrounging Scotch will want that one eyed, lying, mental back
I didn’t know his brother was the polish type?
His brother is apparently an executive at EDF. High up.
That’s an awful lot of hoovering snotballs off the carpet
Does he pay for Dicky Timney’s cleaning requirements also ?!
Jacqui takes care of that out of eXpenses!
Yes, he can fuck right off. He’ll just get dumped and then buried in some dank hole near Dumbarton by a crew from his own Clan, so embarrassed were they of his slight return
Was this declared to the inland revenue, remember in the end they got capone for tax evasion !
But then again there was a will to nail wrongdoing then. Today they are more concerned with avoiding scandals .
For cleaning the moral compass no doubt
Obviously too busy scheming and plotting to go out and hire his own cleaner. Something stinks.
Burnham apparently said he needed his expenses paid or his wife would divorce him!!!
What a pathetic little shit that man is.
I’ve got 7″, what more does she want?
Maybe she wants an LP not a 45?
9″
If she divorces him she’ll have to buy her own eye-liner.
I’d love to be a fly on the wall in hell when this lot go to heaven.
Won’t they be going to the Other Place?
You don’t mean the, um, virgin megastore do you?
STRAW IS IN DEEP SHIT he only paid council tax fraud today after newspaper nailed him on it.
Schadendenfraud
Bless you.
Interesting… Got a reference??????
it was on sky not long ago
Straw and deep shit.Reminded me of cleaning the Guinea Pigs hutch.
Guinea Pig reminded me of Hazel.
Except Guinea Pigs are likeable, unlike this cabal of shitbags
So unfair to lovely guinea piggies.
And speaking as a person of a vaguely Jockish persuasion PLEASE don’t send the mucus muncher back here.
Straw is always being caught for one thing or another. Always uses all the excuses listed on the blog.
How does the devious piece of slime manage to survive let alone be touted as the potential next PM or wanted as such by a poll of Joe public. FFS!!?
He keeps getting touted because they are all charmless, thick, incompetant, lazy, bone idle wasters.
Gordon Brown’s government takes full responsibility for this and the people responsible have all left their jobs. Oh, wait… as you were.
excellent
It’s Global Corruptiuon that started in America…
The Penguin.
I really want to know who the ZaNuLab scumbag MP is who’s claimed for the sauna – that will be interesting….
Actually I’m reading about the leaked stuff now, and this seems to be dynamite. F*** me, this is great stuff!!!! Enjoy!
Do you like the way i release this info drip by drip?
For us “Animal Farm” is a work of fiction. For MPs it is a life style manual.
It all started with me!
You utter hoon. And tell your son he looks a total twat in his frilly coats, too. Just before you tell him that I want my money back.
He’s busy organising his next “Fuck off i’m rich” party
Any chance of an invite?
Tickets £1000, Plus expences of course!
Guido lists 7 “guides for the lies”.
Tonight, on Newsnight, during less than 10 minutes, there were six of them mentioned by the Harridan. Incredible.
These people are nothing less than professional piss-takers.
Put in a comma after “nothing”, and after “professional”…..and it works even better.
The a industrial piss taking drones !
I was shot for less.
You were shot for genocide.
And to silence him. Blears wants to stay out of those woods too…
She shot the sheriff.
It all started in Romania!
This is devestating, claiming back stamp duty on flats, Mandelson was fleecing money when he left as mp.
Now why oh why would Mandelson claim expenses to pay a tax his own Government ramped up?
…unless taxes are only for little people
Because he is a deceitfull c unt !
Flint the junior housing minister claimed back stamp duty, the bitch.
Can’t recollect whether that was first resignation, second… or third time ?
How prescient, Guido. Harperson just appeared on Newsnight and to summarise her comments, I believe that “the claims were made in good faith”, “it was within the rules”, “it was approved by the Fees Office” were phrases in continual use. She also demonstrated that she could name the three main political parties (as in “this issue affects the Labour Party, the Conservative Party etc..”) in her “pad it out and resort to a list” bit, and then she went on to mysteriously claim that as “all the £6000 Gordon Brown claimed was paid to the cleaner” he shared with his brother “Gordon Brown did not personally benefit” from the arrangement. I must use that defence – I did not personally benefit from the fraud as I spent the proceeds on the products of the Guinness Brewery. More no doubt to follow.
Guido,
Might be worth checking out who the cleaner was..
a Nephew, fellow Labour party activist … ?
Be assured it wasn’t a vendor chosen after going out to tender.
Bet ya.
Why was Gordoom claiming for a cleaner, he’s been living in grace and favour accommodation since ’97.
J Smith
Well Tessa did not benefit from her hubbys fraud either , except of course the small matter that it paid her mortgage but hey !.
All £6000 got to the cleaner just as all James Purnell’s rent expenses went to his landlord…
Knowing full well how incompetent and illogical HMRC can be, I would love to see them lauch a raft of heavy handed, drawn out and leaked to buggery investigations into MPs earnings and expenses. Perhaps then Parliament would be prepared to simplify the tax system.
Think they got the cleaner from this place
http://eroticcleaning.net/rates.html
Nude male cleaner – £100 for first hour, £40 per additional half hour
Benefit Gordon not hire cleaner why?
If he really shared the cleaner with his brother then his brother must have paid his half too — an additional £6577. Over 26 months that would be £505 per month.
At a generous £12 per hour, that is 42 hours per month of cleaning.
That’s a f**k of a lot of flat cleaning.
He spouts an awful lot of shit.
NICK ROBINSON IS A HOON: “What ministers call “inadvertent mistakes” others will describe much less charitably”. Indeed, I think that was Guido’s point. What does Nick call them?
“Lessons have been learned“ – we have got away with it, but we won’t do it again.
No, its ‘We got away with it this time and we’ll let it die down and then try again’
PS, any news on the 3 Labour MP’s on suicide watch – do we know names yet?
We don’t know the names yet but I will keep checking the obituaries.
More importantly, is the suicide watch in place to ensure and possibly lend aid to their suicide attempts?
I’m willing to help out.
Can we send all “our” MPs a link to Dignitas?
Liked Anna Botting sticking it to Harman on Sky, then Gavin Esler having a go, but they both backed off when they should have gone for the kill.
Election NOW !!
fucking bolshevik scum
what’s the matter you fuckers got no rope
I’ll meet you in Whitehall. About 11:55
Aye – we’ad tae put th’ figgys oot jus’ ta git tha’ wo’mun oot tha’ front pages!
Min’ ye – nuthun’s ma fult ye understan’
[Translation : these are desperate times indeed, and we cannot be seen to be outboxed, outwitted, and generally seen-to by a woman – especially an honest one.
But people quickly forget about money – look at all the years I’ve been fiddling the books – and no-one has said a word. So people will forget the expenses.
But not that woman.
Can we smear her do you reckon?
anyway – nothing is my fault
Third rate lawyers using third rate excuses.
Will it be safe for Jo to go out for a walk in the woods this weekend?
Yeah! – I reckon so!
Those fine gents will watch over her every step.
One of the problems that the wankers in government have over the Gurkha issue is that none of them have any experience in the Army. Otherwise they’d know bloody well not to fuck with them. Even the most stupid racist squaddie won’t say a bad word about them, out of fear and respect.
The Penguin.
I wonder if we’ll see the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Pretty doubtful, but this event is fun at least.
See you in [the] court [of public opinion].
They will put a spin on even that.
• Business Secretary Lord Mandelson’s claim for thousands of pounds to improve his constituency home in Hartlepool after he had announced his resignation as an MP.
• Communities Secretary Hazel Blears claiming for three different properties in a single year, spending almost £5,000 of taxpayers’ money on furniture in three months.
• Foreign Secretary David Miliband spending hundreds of pounds on gardening at his constituency home.
• Chancellor Alistair Darling changing his official “second home” designation four times in four years.
• Transport Secretary Geoff Hoon switching his second home in a way which allowed him to improve his family home in Derbyshire at taxpayers’ expense before buying a London townhouse.
• Culture Secretary Andy Burnham, Europe minister Caroline Flint and Welsh Secretary Paul Murphy buying flats – or the freehold on properties they already owned – and claiming back stamp duty and other moving costs.
How the fuck can it be anything other than corrupt for MPs to claim back on expenses the taxes and fees they impose on the rest of us on pain of criminal sanction?
Nulab apologists like Nick Robinson would have us believe that these crooks went into politics ‘for the right reasons’ and that beneath it all they are really ‘decent people’.
Decent they most certainly are not!
The studied nature of these Minister’s expenses scams reveals them as corrupt, devious crooks who view the public with contempt. These troughers are unfit to hold public office and should be facing plod and jail time. It’s about time they are forced to deposit their own DNA into their much loved database.
A government of all the sleazeballs.
Business Secretary Lord Mandelson’s claim for thousands of pounds to improve his constituency home in Hartlepool after he had announced his resignation as an MP.
You can buy a whole street in Hartlepool for that type of money. Nobody’s ever seen him there, anyway. Ted Leadbeater is sadly missed.
Would have that been spent on his garden shed?…just a rumour…….I heard somewhere…….
Whatever excuses the MPs can give, that doesn’t mean they had to claim for the things they have. The prat who was in the papers saying he’d been told to ‘fill yer boots’ seems to be the rule not the exception, sadly.
Are there any honourable members in the Commons?
Is that a rhetorical question?
That Johnny says! He’s so pure and so innocent. Love Him!
There are lots of members. And quite a few c*nts.
That’s it, shows over, Harrimen Harminger has spoken. Learn the lessons, draw a line, move on, get on with the job, it’s the right thing to do……..and for the aficionados, it started in America.
I think this week will just about eclipse last week for mr brown.
If he lowers our expectations any further, he may even start to look good again by Christmas. That’s the theory anyway.
Lets face facts. 10 years ago, for even a quarter of this shit, people would have been forced out such would be the embarrassment. Goes to show how low standards have slipped with another decade of ZaNu rule. As I have always maintained in many threads here and elsewhere – same old Labour, same old shit. It’s the country and the taxpayer that always ends up paying for these fucking socialist idiots. Doesn’t matter how they dress it up, it’s the same old shirt hiding the same old shit ideology. Everyone is equal – rubbish. Human nature doesn’t allow it – and they’ve proved it themselves by the Pandoras box that’s just been opened.
Rules or no rules – Good Faith or no – you know when you’re ripping the taxpayer off and it’s not on. People really ought to go after this episode, no more bullshit and bullet-dodging. I personally want to see some hoons get fucked off properly for this.
The first rule of Socialist mental illness is this “Everyone is equal, except me. They need me, and only me, to make the utopia.”
You’re right Anti, using the bile of those who are (and they are right to feel that way,) downtrodden and the guise of ‘Everyone is equal’ those in power elevate themselves and make every that much less free and wealthy.
It was too easy to direct that 50% tax rate for high earners as another example of how greedy they are; but any tax is immoral, it has nothing to do with being rich or poor and as the expense fiddling shows is used only to benefit the few.
Government should be brought to the smallest, most compact form, do away with all the sodding make-work departments, get out of our lives and stop ‘having’ to spend so much money.
Bruin’s laughable election video (not that one has been called) reiterated time and again ‘you can’t spend your way out of recession’ but you can certainly spend yourself into one! Even to someone with only a very, very basic of economics that claim should be completely insane! But they will bankrupt this country and its people, financially and morally, because Big Government Works and We’re Here to Help You Live Better.
This will not stop, because the current government (and maybe even the next one) honestly believe they know how we should be living.
Close down the H of P throw the fuckin lot of them in the thames.
Why pollute the Thames?
The fuckin bastards should all have their heads shaved and dragged through the streets.
I’m up for that!
Your up for anything…or is that anything up you?
Shouldn’t the heads be removed from the shoulders before they’re dragged through the streets?
Boat ride to Traitor’s Gate.
Revive the traditional punishment of hanging, drawing and quartering, especially for them. Make it a public holiday.
HRH The Queen now needs to dissolve parliament. Does anyone know her???
My mate Philip does.
Sadly, no.
But seriously, how about petitioning the Queen to dissolve Parliament?
As I’m not a citizen, or whatever Brits get to call themselves, it would probably be best for a real Brit (of any racial or sexual persuasion) to start it.
Anyone??????
I’m sure she probably wouldnt need much persuading after whats gone on. She’ll be through all of them and this is undoubtedly probably the worst she’s even seen in a PM.
Sadly these days ZanuLab use “citizen” where the Soviets used to use “comrade”. I now detest the word because of it.
I’m serious. It could make her quite popular. She could make a bit of a name for herself if she did it…
No, but given her lineage, Betty Boche could try using Prussic acid.
The Telegraph Story is a full 10 pages tomorrow, its huge.
Must dowhat I haven’t done for years,tomorrow go out and buy a newspaper,the Telythingy or whatever it’s called
Could just be really big print so Gordon can read it.
I may buy it tomorrow if it has a free CD included.
I look forward to the 3 by-elections once the expenses for those MPs who are on suicide watch are published.
O/T but having just watched Question Time I have to say the sooner Scotland is independent the better.
And when they are independent they need to take back ALL their politicians.
I think the one thing that pissed me of when that idiot in the audience quoted if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear and take everbody’s DNA,I hope he gets picked up for doing nothing wrong by the fuzz and lets hear him squeal .
Total f***wits. ‘If you have done nuffin wrong you won’t mind this armband together with your number tatooed on your forehead, neither.
Unfortunately, that’s not just a Scottish idiocy. Plenty of morons like that in England too.
When I did jury service in London a few years back, before the case started one juror said the defendant must be guilty. When I asked how he could know, he said, “the police don’t just arrest people for nothing.”
In the past, we used to rely on MPs to insulate the law from the morons like that – now they seem to take their cue from them.
Ha! Too right. Plenty of cases of people who had done nothing wrong having plenty to fear and doing major time (5+ years) and even being executed. “If you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear” is, without doubt, one of the most ignorant and dangerous soundbites of our time and New Labour just love it.
http://webjcli.ncl.ac.uk/2006/issue3/naughton3.html
What i do like about this site is the quality of links supplied. Thanks ELF…
Some of us up here in Highland Cow country are actually quite normal, believe it or not, and we don’t want them back ta muchly. Couldn’t you send them to a rendering plant or something?
Question Time.
I’m Scots and I can honestly say that every QT that comes from Scotland is crap.
Ian Gray patronising women and Ms.Sturgeon swiping at Tories (who are no threat to SNP in Scotland) in order to gain potential voters from ZaNuLab was just all too transparent.
I pity the SNP when Salmond moves on…in meantime they are of use just to wipe out Labour and reduce the ZanU MPs in Westminster.
Tossers.
I will be voting snp as a tatic to remove corrupt labour scum who infest Scotland. I will of course dispose of the Nats when I have no further use for them.
Even though I am not Scotch, I want to add that the QT audience is picked by Al-Beebya, and is representative only of the spin that British-Pravda want to apply.
Dunfermaline QT was interesting in that if Ian Gray is labours leader , i failed to understand any of his answers , clearly a bit wary of Nicola Sturgeon who has quite a political urge , question on gordon was bound to be devisive being as Nadine thought scottish politics was similar to waffley westminster banter . Ive watched scottish PMQs and very grisely it is too , its like passing the stick of dynamite , or a tiger hunt . Bruce Anderson gave the most intelligent answers of the night . i would have thought DNA question would have caused scotch legal system some problems , but i was astonished at how trident question went , it would seem pretty obvious to me that whilst the cold war is over , the new phenomenom of over the counter ballistic missiles from rouge state brings a new problem , it may be that cruise would be better but that only has 1000km range .
i could see nicolas point its overkill , and expense but nutters come and go within the lead time of building a nuclear detterant.
bit sad really and despite the SNPs claims that they offer a solution (i can see they want shut of labour) i think they will introduce weak and corrupt goverment in the end, a sort of elite politics of nationalists and socialists , and squander a lot on politics and squabbles.
however this week had brillo on top form , no doubt dining with nancie after , (not jealous again) Nicholas Parsons eluded to the great leaders problems , and nancie an ex berlusconi babe !! clearly when you reach the riddicule stage its time to to quit , think about if gordon stays ?? they will be lining up if local elections are wipe out . noticed some spinning on sympathey card , ” ahhhh poor gordon he just gets the top job then an unpreccidented world recession arrives” yeah right like as though he didnt know the level of risk he was exposing the financial services sector to , he loosened the credit tap boosted the housing market , to power the finacial services sector , 120% mortages are a no brainer that pyramid was being created , and then he pays all the co conspiritors off even though they have manged to make the biggest corporate loss in uk history in RBS case .
morris sattchi has an article in papers that explains the whole wonk scheme quite well , and gordon/labour knew exactly what they were doing right from selling off the gold into shares . it hasnt gone unoticed either how the so called investments that went bad and we are now going to have to pay for ,were a bit wonk partisan based on labour twisting the market , to make them look triple A . There are some schemes that were ponzi schemes for friends only contrived out of detertimations made by labour quangos and NGOs in return for funding or bsuiness .
all money that could have fixed the roof , rather than the demolition of the country with debt and fear , so yeah caesars wife thinks the full labour story of selling us out is yet to come , but this one will do nicely for now .
wonder how ed and yvette will fair , thanks for ruining the country
I have a good Scots mate who was over the moon when Scotland got its own parliament. “You don’t know what this means to us,” he told me.
Years later, he has since emigrated to France completely fed up with the corrupt little totalitarian state that’s been created up there.
When Labour got a drubbing in the local elections, Jacqui “I need a patio heater to do my job” Smith said “Well, y’know, the government, we have been shown a yellow card, and, y’know, were listening to what people are telling us…”
NO, you freeloading harridan. You have been shown a RED card, you are refusing to leave the field !!
ELECTION NOW PLEASE !!
and they tell us DROGBA is a bad example to the kids.
At least what Drogba was saying was true. The ref was a fucking disgrace and deserved his in yer face cussing. It’s about time we did the same to these fraudulent MPs and Ministers.
Hear Hear
Back of the net, ahhh.
Jackboots Smiths spine in a bap?
Lets get serious folks these politicians (CROOKS) need to be sorted out and if there is any honest ones amongst them they should come forward or be denounced like the rest.
Our Laws are made by Crooks!
How ironic?
I suppose it’s why a lot of the establishment are pro-EUSSR, and don’t mind them ruling us.
GOOD LORD!!! Where are all our pet trolls???
On the phone to their pet lawyers, I would imagine.
Haven’t you learn’t yet, they are all at it.
Yes, gone a bit fucking quiet tonight from that lot
They don’t troll in their own time. 9 to 5 at the taxpayers expense only.
A & E departments up and down the country cancelling all leave due to expected pandemic of “ripped arseholes” over the weekend. Lovely !
Westminster A and E at Guys is expecting an influx of people with printers embedded in heads.
We have a robust complaints procedure.
So do we.
Why do you think Peter Mandelson hasn’t been around in the press recently?
Or Dysons.
That’s why Broon claimed 6k for cleaning.
He probably threw it because it didn’t suck up.
Anyone watching Nicholas Parsons getting his turn to tuck into Brown on “This Week”? Classic….
Jeez, look at the Telegraph – it’s turning into the Torygraph again right in front of our eyes. As if the sleaze/thieving story wasn’t enought.
Just underneath is is a devastating report on the ever-widening gap between rich and poor, in the socialist paradise of McMental.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/5291482/Gap-between-rich-and-poor-grows-to-record-levels-official-figures-show.html
the Telegraph knows where to put its feet, it knows Labour is about to go, they need to keep in or they lose out, no loyalty in journalism.
You’re probably right, some paper will have to post the public sector ads when Labour get trashed.
Let’s hope your right. Are the Liebourgraph going to drip feed this scandel over the next 2 – 3 weeks starting with the front bench then the back bench of the Liebour Government?
Attack the Limp Dems and the others, then drop the bombshell the week before the EU and Local Elections about the Tories, just to keep it fresh in peoples minds.
It could just happen. Brown is still a force to be reckoned with.
Anonymous Misogynist
Did you mean “…farce to be reckoned with.” ?
What to expect from his next YouTube performance? A rendition of Cabaret complete with stockings and bowler?
singing..”Bring me Sunshine, in your smile..make me happy…all the while..”
It’s to lull you in to a false sense of security…. making it look like they are anti-labour so that when they go full force against the tories then it has more effect.
It’s all a set-up.
Don’t you think this is a little too convenient? The responses of the MPs seem a little bit too well rehearsed, and being filmed during the day when the people only found out about the expenses leak during the evening stinks of a setup.
I will be very surprised if the ‘leak’ has not been tailored to mislead away from the true figures. The Telegraph is a labour luvvie. It’s a trap of lies. Maybe. Guess we’ll find out in the morning if there’s any realism to what is quoted in their red rag.
I utterly despise those who are corrupt. I am whiter than white.
CLAIMED FOR THE BLEACH
Dianne Abbott delares that labour whips on suicccide watch!!!! FFS!!
I thought Diane looked scared and very uncomfortable while on the expenses subject… definitely on the defensive. Cameron and his shadow whips must clean out his own stables (if necessary) without delay – we want a precision guided missile right into Labours black heart, with no distractions.
As for the potential suicides – do me a favour! If they don’t have the guts to either resign or face an election, they certainly won’t have the guts for that.
They’re just working out how to claim their own funerals on expenses.
Abboot should join UdderlyUddin and take the first plane out to the Socialist People’s Republic of Bangladee.
Watching that bunch of deep fried Mars bar eating twats in the audience tonight just sums up this Country. Fucked from the north to the south by jocks.
Amputation is the answer.
They cant lie, because they will be caught out.
They can also make figures up for the leaked CD. It’s not an official release, after all.
“We shall not pass by on the other side”
No but John “Small Chipolata” Prescott claims for two toilet seats in two years. And £4,800 a year for food. I wonder if there is a connection?
The Penguin.
probity:
Tried virtue or integrity; approved moral excellence; honesty; rectitude; uprightness. “Probity of mind.”
Synonyms: Probity, Integrity
Some old C-unt’s description of Our Dear Leader on ‘This Week’
Nicholas Parsons: your name has been taken.
There is a guy from 5 Live, in a bunker, with an army uniform, a referance to the classic Gordon Brown Downfall YouTube??? Love it!!
We must be due a new film by now. Perhaps the bit in Hitler’s final days when the only people left are young boys as everyone else has been killed or run away.
Throwing office equipment at droids as well. I would still like to see Pienaar do one of these as Frank Cannon from the 70′s.
More like the Whips are watcing how may pies that fat cow eats in a sitting
There’s no way the Telegraph has the balls to destroy MPs via the leaked expenses. They will keep the most juicest stuff secret to protect themselves. There’s no way, it’s too big. They should do the decent thing and pass it on to Guido. Then the shit really would hit the fan.
That secret would only last 1 months, they have to publish on 1st July, so no sense in doing so. They are going to drag this out and make a fortune on it.
The stuff in July is going to blacked out, apparently.
297 Was. Teles has now shown pictures of unredacted receipts.
Shit, been in the pub all evening and missed all the fun but back just in time to see Nicholas Parsons sticking the knife in – no-one can survive that!
I would like to remind everyone that MPs claim thousands more in expenses to pay people to run their offices and do their paperwork for them.
They have secretaries to claim for their bathplugs and porn films and we pay for them too.
Before the publication of my expense submissions, I would like to clear the air with my constituents, whose support i value almost as much i do as my career, I feel the need to explain that the receipts i submitted for invoices received from “Kiddie porn are us” were entered due to an error of judgement on my part. This was a moment of madness brought about by overwork on my duties as member of the Standards and Privilage Select Commitee. I feel sure that the public would wish us to learn the lessons of this affair and move on to other more pressing issues
This is a Number 10 black ops operation by those of NuLabour well versed in the dark arts.
1. Leak the unredacted data to the Telegraph
2. Have the Telegraph publish so called condemning expense claims made the PM and some of his cabinet ministers.
3. Rebuke the so called condemning expense claims, since that was the plan anyhow. Namely to get so called condemning expense claims published that COULD BE rebuked, with ease.
4. Publish real actual condemning expense claims made by MPs of the other parties. Do this ahead of the June elections.
5. Rely on the fact that since the other newspapers think that the Telegraph paid actual money for this data that it will do a good job on scrutinizing it and publishing any juicy details. The others newspapers won’t bother to try and also buy the data, since the Telegraph is well ahead of the game. Thereby only information comes out that the NuLab dark arts team wants to come out.
Sounds plausible! I think the kids are too busy jumping up and down rejoicing to notice they may be being had, again.
They would not have the brains to do so!
I agree. This is a damage limitation exercise. Remember the spoiling tactics for McBride?
Expose expenses for the well known cabinet ministers, they are toast anyway. Link all parties MP’s in the next wave, “they are all as bad as one another”.
The way to save a larger number of Labour MPs than if all the details had been released at the same time.
Mandy playing a blinder here.
[...] Guido has a great explanation of the phrases we’ll hear over the next few days. I’ve republished here “It has since been corrected” - I knew it was going to come out and it was such a blatant fiddle that I realised I had to repay the fraudulently claimed money before it came out. [...]
I may have inadvertantly received a sum from the taxpayers, that allthough was entirely within the guidelines, was an honest error of judgement on my part brought about by naked greed.
Harman is making it worse and worse by trying to justify it and pissing everyone off in the process, Hariet dont try and defend the indefensible, hold your hands up, i’d have more respect.
I have no respect for that helmet haired dyke
Ha! A Rant Him her
The Telegraph stuff is a “spoiler”, provided by No 10.
The idea is: get the worst out now and we’ll go for the Tories.
Why do you think it’s called the Labourgraph these days?
Andrew Porter is even further up Gordon’s arse than The Times’ Philip Webster.
How can they all get up Brown’s arse? Robinson, Porter, Webster, Mandy
That must be one hell of an arse.
They all had the half-arsed idea do do a little half inching. Small [minded] pricks, the lot of them
He’s also got a front bottom…C’unt
It is rumoured to be a capacious orifice.
Indeed.
Panic is panic.
And there is panic in the air tonight not the well oiled gears of a Press Damage limitation offensive co-ordinated by Mandy and the Telegraph.
Brown is stumbling blindly from disaster to disaster now. The waters are engulfing him and no spinner would be insane enough to add his and the Cabinets Expenses to the mix right this second as he is drowning.
The Telegraph somehow got it. They paid a pretty penny for it too no doubt.
But the rest of the Press will run and run with the details even if the Telegraph did try to soft peddle. (They won’t. They paid the money so they want the Splash and any circulation bump)
I disagree. This is a damage limitation exercise. Remember the spoiling tactics for McBride?
Expose expenses for the well known cabinet ministers, they are toast anyway. Link all parties MP’s in the next wave, “they are all as bad as one another”.
The way to save a larger number of Labour MPs than if all the details had been released at the same time.
Mandy playing a blinder here.
It’s certainly taken minds off the economy. Create a few sin-eaters, sacrifice them and hey presto the party is back in business.
I believe Mandy realises that Broon has to go but the timing is crucial.
If Cameron fires the offenders from the shadow cabinet, it will backfire on Brown, as he has still not got rid of any of the offenders so far.
Brown has about 12 hours to take action and say that the excuses are not good enough, but his claims seem to be suspect so if he did get rid of people it would weaken his position.
An interesting day ahead, and I am in Westminister for the day!!
Brown would have to fire himself, he’s well mired.
The Penguin.
Don’t think it is a clever Labour plot, while there is no doubt some Tory crap to come out of this, the DT stance is pretty damning against Labour.
Also, if there was a plan, why the monumental fuck-up of the Youtube video and the climb down in Parliament last week.
Brown is too stupid for a plot that subtle. He could barely walk and talk at the same time in his most recent video.
Sometimes, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
“…the DT stance is pretty damning against Labour”. Agreed, & I’m looking at the disclosures with a mixture of joy and horror.
But, in respect of the DT’s front page alone the silence from my own dear Tories is deafening. I fear the worst.
“The Daily Telegraph has also discovered numerous cases of MPs buying furniture, including beds, wardrobes and armchairs, which are delivered to their “first” home and then claimed as expenses for their “second” home. In some cases the claims are queried, before being paid when MPs make assurances they have shifted the items to the other address. ”
At this time of year its usual to find a lot of slimy slugs about …
Can you get MP pellets?
But presumably no claims for for removal firms or van hire…
Excellent point.
From Browns Bullshit Corporation: without any hint of irony
“The paper also says Gordon Brown claimed for the same £153 bill twice for plumbing work at his constituency home in successive quarters.
However, No 10 said the Parliamentary Fees Office accepted this was done inadvertently and had written to Mr Brown to apologise for not spotting the mistake.”
Sounds like Bruno is taking full responsibility again.
The amount he’s shitting himself lately, He needs two Dunny’s
I don’t think so. I agree with Jon1. We are seeing the Labour Dark Arts team at work on this one, helped by their Telegraph supporters.
But i thought my boy was as clean as a whistle?
They should check the drains, could be another Dennis Nilsen
they’ve found Damien then!
We’re lining up to tear that twat a new arsehole. And then he can use both at the same time.
Everybody’s happy.
Two dunnies how close you are. The comment was stated as a joke but its true!!!!!
GMTV has just reported that Prescott claimed for two bog seats in two years. Bog seats FFS this just gets worse and worse. Must have worn out the first one with all the weight and puking.
Seems there’s lots of mistakes the fees office has missed.
Guide faithfully reproduced down here in NZ. Well done guys, keep the pressure on.
Imagine how busy Mandy is tonight. Westminster will be full of sleepless ashen faced Cabinet members clutching their Mobiles in a deathgrip.
And imagine how busy the Telegraph desk is trying to deal with the entire Labour Cabinet ringing franticaly, excuses in hand, trying to sound casual as they “enquire” as to whether their name has perchance come up and might be featured in the coming days.
The Telegraph can if it chooses barter with some of these greedy fools and “promise” to go easier or perhaps lay off for a few days, but only if they get a few choice quotable rude words or an untold story (from an unnamed Cabinet Minister of course) regarding their Cabinet Comrades and the Great Leader in return.
And now imagine the other Papers preparing to doorstep the featured MP of their choice while setting their Investigators on the paper trail the Telegraph is now sowing to see what they can uncover.
This story has legs like you would not believe.
A bit like Jacqui’s. Open them up and then decide you’ll wait for the video instead!
millitwat spent hundreds on gardening – was he trying to grow his own bananas?
Perhaps he’s growing skunk! It would explain a lot man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I cannot be your lover and I will not be your friend
Well, I know you say you need me but I have no time to spend
We could talk like this for hours, I’d just end up getting bored
‘Cause no one needs a dealer just a day before a score
Let me in, let me in
Let me in, sweet darling, let me in, let me in
Let me in, let me in
Let me in, sweet darling, let me in, let me in
Do you think that you could leave me?
Could you leave and go away just for a little while?
Do you think that I could leave you?
Could I leave and go away just for a change of style?
Well, the children ?up there? dig my shit so I sell it to them cheap
Better bring the scales and check the deal, getting scared that I might cheat
Well, you’re just a speck of polish on the fat man’s shiny shoes
And I think I hate them for it and I think they hate me too
Well, you spend your whole life moaning down the telephone for bread
Can’t get your sleep for trying, darling, remember what you said
You come around most any time, sell me ?what you can?
What you see is what you get, catch me if you can
John Martyn – The Dealer..
Seems apt….
Mandys been up to no good as well claiming for flats after he left as an MP
Reignation No ? can’t remember which one would it be?
Still can’t understand why they are doing this after doing the dirty on Guido,is it their way of saying sorry or do they have some other things going on apart from more people buying the rag to see what’s going on.
possibly they know they have to do something, political downfalls have no loyalty. What sells does.
INTERESTING:
If you read the DT leading article to the end, only Ed Miliband, Hilary Benn and Alan Johnson are mentioned as being reasonably clean.
How convenient for the leading Brown replacement candidate is that?
Maybe they are, its possible……….nah
the disc got lost in the post m’lud
I was just about to say the same thing….just so, so handy.
Actually, you could imagine Ed Milliband pulling it off as leader of the opposition.
Trouble is, the three main party leaders would all look near-identical.
…you could imagine Ed Milliband pulling it off…
I’d rather not, thanks all the same.
This is like Christmas today
Ex-Labour chief attacks party after CPS drops charges over donations scandal
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6242023.ece
In a statement after he was cleared by the CPS, Mr Watt pointed out that he had worked for the party for 11 years, through which his family had frequently suffered from the long hours and stress that his job entailed.
“When this matter involving contributions to the Labour Party became a story, I was abandoned by the political leadership without regard for the impact this would have on me and my family,” he said.
“I was resolute then and now in my belief of my innocence and that I had acted in good faith. I wish the same good faith and loyalty had been shown to me.”
Mr Watt’s statement is a big embarrassment to Labour headquarters.
Not that they are short on embarrassment just now!
The Penguin.
Bollox, Watt can fuck off. By your company shall ye be known. Charges are often dropped in fraud and sleaze cases due to their perceived complexity and cost – tend to end up in paper mountains and witnesses and briefs deliberately trying to confuse matters.
Whether or not the politicized CPS has ‘dropped the charges’ there’s enough information out there in the public domain for the wider public to make their minds up about Labour party corruption. We’ll take our revenge at the ballot box.
Not much sympathy for Watt. That’s how labour/G Brown operate. They are the nasty party!
Do we have enough leverage to remove them? I thought we did ages ago, yet they remain…
Human nature being what it is, even if this lot are removed their replacements will function in the same way…Meet the new boss same as the old boss.
Oh Guido, our Father’s Kingdom is not of this world!
Why do you need us to buy you so many TVs, Hazel? The revolution will not be televised.
At last a Gil Scott Heron reference on Guido, more here.
Just come online; Guido, Draper and Mcbride you are all on the make Iain Dale released this tonight and all you are doing is repeating it, you disgust me.
Is that you, arthur?
Yep
Yes
Are you two related?
Yes one is illiterate
Do you call him Gordon for short?
He’s bent enough to be a politician
One’s illiterate and the other one can’t read.
I can’t read.
By remarkable co-incidence, the Telegraph launches a big ad campaign today, ‘celebrating the broadsheet format’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/uknews/5251829/Daily-Telegraph-launches-It-Pays-To-Think-Big-advertising-campaign.html
funny, that.
I can’t believe that Number 10 wanted this out now, a month before the Euros and with Gordon realistically vulnerable.
Surely, releasing it all on 1st July, just before a 3 month break and almost a year before a General Election was preferable.
yup its not a fit up job by No 10 but i think its a fit up job to get rid of Brown though by others in Labour.
Nop, it is exactly what it is, a paper that has seen the light after sleepwalking to edge of the abyss and looking down into the darkness after a decade of Labour spin and realised that they need to change now or they will falling into a bottomless pit. This is all about selling newspapers.
Listen there are lovely conspiracy theories out there but they all depend on a huge amount of intelligence and long term planning. NOTHING about this government tells me they have any of those qualities, the papers have forgotten how to write because they got very lazy and complacent. This is the Telegraphs desperate attempt at trying to restore what little dignity they have left.
Labour and the MSM have all behaved like rabbits in the head lights after smeargate broke and I suspect that the editorial meetings that took place over Easter was the start of a complete change of direction which has taken a few weeks to fathom. look at all the shuffling of political writers and editors in the press. They now realise that they got it wrong, FFS EVEN Poly the wally tried to retract her obvious position. Look at the MSM that are still spinning, they are the ones that are going to be swimming with the fishes, the BBC will now be one of the first casualties come the next government and if I were Cameroon I would not blame him if he withdrew the government umbilical chord.
This is a revolution make no mistake, a mutiny and a desperate attempt by the Telegraph to make some money and gain back some support. Just look at all the media that have had turned off their comments, the BBC the most obvious, I mean come on it does not take that long to reload a fucking bulletin Board FFS ever heard of backups. The public anger is massive and they bloody know it. Got the beers in the popcorn and the 3d glasses, this is going to be a spectacular show, the preview was on “this week” after QT.
Broon’s hoovering bill is the the least of it ( it’s at least credible at face value) which is why the butt-wipes at the BBC are headlining their coverage of the issue with it. However Straw and Mandelsohn’s scams – abusing the expenses system to dodge paying the very taxes and fees THEY levy on US have no plausible defence. Blears is a gonna too with her housing scam. Where’s Baroness Uddin by the way? Thieving bastards.
I still do not understand why we, the taxpayers, are paying for a Westminster flat for Gordon Brown (including cleaning bills), as part of “necessary expenses incurred in his duties as a member of Parliament”. As he has been provided accomodation in Westminster at public expense for the past twlve years, why are we still doing this? He may have needed it pre-1997 while he was in opposition, but surely no more.
He should be paying all expenses for his own home in Fife, whilst living in grace-and-favour accomodation in Downing Street. If he cannot afford it, sell it and get a small office in his constituency.
All this crap makes me really angry.
The telsgraph expenses story has just broken on BBC World here in Germany.
All 7 excuses used
Now online at The Independent.
Grauniad too.
I wonder if it’s McBride’s revenge
Or McBride’s pension?
Guten Morgen Deutschland
Gott in Himel !!!
My favourite newspaper, the Telegraph, has excelled itself by putting these details in the public domain and demonstrating what sort of people we have in parliament: “The extent of their rapacity is astonishing”. The person who got the information and sold it has earned the gratitude of the nation and should be knighted. With more details to come out in the weeks ahead we’ll be able to judge which MPs if any deserve re-election. The expense accounts can be used as ammunition in cases where a quite frugal candidate is standing against one who has lavishly, or rapaciously fiddled the system.
MPs are allowed to claim up to up to £24,222 under the second homes allowance as long as they put in receipts for that amount. By putting in as many claims as possible, even for bath plugs and porn movies they get their claims up to £24,222 because they believe that £24,222 is theirs of right. What will happen soon in response to the Telegraph revelations is that the allowance system will be removed and an extra £24,222 added onto the salary of all MPs. So they won’t need to put in these dodgy claims, or any receipts, but will get the money anyway. Please tell me I’m wrong. Or is there more to this scandal that I’ve missed.
At least they will then have to pay tax and NI on it.
This whole story also raises another intriguing and perhaps not yet widely acknowledged possibility for the coming Election.*
*(the Big One next May not the Euros)
Candidates fighting each other for their seats in a straight up “numbers game” based on Expenses.
Think there aren’t MP’s or Candidates desperate enough to hold onto their jobs or run a Campaign based on who is the “least” or “most” Porktacularly Greedy ?
Expenses forms may well be the easiest attack ads, speeches and leaflets ever. They write themselves.
Imagine a Politician holding forth on despicable greed and profligacy of their opponent in the depths of a Recession to an extremly receptive and unamused public. Now imagine this Nationwide with the worst offenders of the Expenses scandal being “easy meat” for any up and comer or opponent.
Yes, these are going to be interesting times ahead.
Timms is one of the honest ones. The fact that he’s a total party animal and career politician, living his fantasy, striding the corridors of power, at our detriment, He will no doubt be campaigning on his record of “Nothing to do with me guv”. God help us!
Do you think he has an honest face?
The Penguin.
The Queen should set up an emergency government today, made up from any honest politicians.
That narrows the field somewhat!
You only need half a dozen, the rest is just chaff.
She fired some worthless Australian gov’t some years ago so why not fire this lot and demand a general election ?
Got to find an honest six first.
Because the first Bill we would enact would be declaration of a republic!
Pig has got a snout in the trough
Who you gonna call
PORK BUSTERS
I Ain’t afraid of no pork
I ain’t afraid of no pork
I am!
Not if it is from a supermarket.
I dont like the old pork sword thats why I ensure hubby has plently of good vids
Corruption is not as bad as in Khakastan and Nigeria so it’s OK…move along folks, nothing to see here. You’re distracting Gordon, the Great Helmsman, from getting on with the job, for hard working people.
Could anyone answer this question concerning Brown’s cleaning bills.
The Guardian says this:
“A spokesman for Brown said he and his brother had shared a cleaner at their two flats. The brother had paid the cleaner and the prime minister reimbursed his share of the cost.
The spokesman said: “Her contract made clear the allocation of hours of work and payment. Inland Revenue and national insurance receipts show the payments made, but it was easier for her in terms of national insurance arrangements to be paid by one person. There is no question of Andrew Brown doing the cleaning or receiving any financial benefit.”
How does being paid by one person make NI contributions more simple?
If she’s self employed it would be immaterial how many people were paying her. If she is only employed by Brown’s brother that would put her on an income of just £6k a year.(Assuming half the cost met by each Brown) Either she is doing a lot of cleaning for Brown’s brother or something doesn’t quite stack up.
Fuckin ROBBER
That’s a scandalous accusation to make with no evidence!
What does this “cleaner” look like? She’s on a good rate.
I thought a “cleaner” was a euphemism used in Hollywood gangster movies for a team of professional hit men???
..or have I been watching too many video’s I failed to claim for?
…he and his brother had shared a cleaner…
Poor woman.
or man.
BBC only third item…… Arseholes
There are more pressing issues on the news agenda.
Just as the public’s indignation is subsiding, time to play the trump card – Conservatives’ expenses.
WATER WAS TO HOT…. you couldn’t make it up
The Telegraph has this link to what it says is Gordon’s cleaning receipts, only it’s not, it is in fact Burnham’s begging letter! It seems the Telegraph might have the documents stored on scribd, anybody know how to search scribd?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5293683/MPs-expenses-Gordon-Browns-cleaning-receipts.html
An infinite number of monkeys, with an infinite number of pens, could probably write…………………
Hazel that must have been an Arctic winters day.
As everybody gone to bed ?
Guido get of your lazy fat arse and have a chat
He’s pissed (again).
denverthen… the the fuck down here and make a comment.
I dunno what you wrote there – I can’t read.
I can write, though, Arthur, if that’s any help.
keyboard is fucked
I’m here/ working night shift. Interesting work calibrating MPs’ sundials.
You mean lying on their backs with an hard on.
Eooww yuck: verrucas
That makes two of you
We need an election to replace this mendacious, corrupt, scheming,greedy,self-serving bunch of arses, with a new mendacious, corrupt,scheming,greedy,self-serving bunch of arses.
We won’t be fooled again (yes we will).
Fuck Off their all the same.
Spelling gone again
Not your strongpoint!
That’s alright. I can’t read.
And i can’t write. Sounds like a basis for a new political force. It’s the perfect defence to those pesky expence rows!
Just read your message properly, Very Sorry I will go out and cut my wrists
No Mate. there’s always hope. At least that’s what the libdems believe!
Clegg: the Russell Brand of the Front Benches. Shagadelic beeyayby.
Did you see me with that Lumley bird! Have i pulled or what!
She was like 60 year old cellulite in your hands, baby. You roar, Cleggy. Hell, yeah.
Well, at least you’re not not sure and paying to explore like Oaten.
Mark Oaten has my full confidence in his challenging role, shadowing the Minister for Clapham Common, in which he has been fully briefed.
Where is all the rabid tories tonight; this is not much fun.
best yet
scottish labour mp claims for 5p ikea bag
Was that a chlorestamy bag?
Does that Knock them out while their having a number 2
404 Why do I keep getting moderated ?
Coz you’re a Lefty, mate. Trouble.
Now Now you know that is not true, I’m just concerned about the gullible people around me that lets politicians play their inhouse games
I think the tele will be saving the best for later, the main story is they have the disc.
Tele…. tele what the fuck are you talking about, these are the people who show big brother.
Is that Susan Boyle’s new release?
Boil… yes
They say it’ll be released over the next several days.
They have a best and worst MP article:
The best-value MP is shown to be Philip Hollobone, a backbench Conservative who has no staff at Westminster and handles all his own casework.
He had the lowest expenses claim of any MP last year while maintaining an attendance record that was well above average.
Second-best is Dennis Skinner, Labour’s left-wing “Beast of Bolsover”, who had the best attendance and the second-lowest expenses.
At the other end of the table George Galloway, the only MP for the far-left Respect party, is rated the worst-value MP. He turned up for only one in twenty votes, far fewer than any other MP, yet claimed £136,000 in expenses.
Second-worst is Clare Short, the former Labour Cabinet minister . . .
I actually wrote to Philip Hollobone some months ago when his position as the ‘cheapest’ MP became known. Bearing in mind that he handles all his own admin, I thought it remarkable that I received a pleasant reply from him the next day. Much better than my own MP who employs several people in his office but who is incapable of getting out a reply on something I raised over 6 weeks ago.
Give the Tele a break. Processing this volume of stuff is industrial scale. Then there’s the cross checking of individual claims – ie double charging for marrieds and whose shagging for singles, and all permutations on that theme. This is a big job. Will take time to squeeze all the juice and pips, the come back for a second pressing.
Clare Short – second worst MP. Isn’t she dead? Or is this not a bar to claiming expenses?
You are thinking of the late Mowlam, similar in looks I grant you, face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle.
“..isn’t she dead?” No. She’s always looked like that.
Right you lot its safe to come out, I’m going to bed; before I go I would like to say this government is crap but please campaign for honest politicians whatever party. Thats it I’m going before I sound like caesars wife who takes all night to reply and then is over blown.
“I sound like caesars wife who takes [it] all night”
She won’t like that one little bit, arthur. Not one little bit.
Et tu, Arthurus, you old dog you.
As my MP said to me (3 weeks ago) “when all this expenses nonsense is over….”
What could I say? I just stared in disbelief.
£95,000 over 5 years ACA. Outrageous.
And he is one of the better ones.
God help us all
MP’s favourite tune…
Doobie brothers – long gravy train running.
Man’s ego is inflated, his laws are outdated, they don’t apply no more
You can’t rely no more to be standing around waiting
In the home of the brave, Jefferson turning over in his grave
Fools glorifying themselves, trying to manipulate Satan
And there’s slow, slow train coming up around the bend.
RZ of course
I suspect it’s “Fuck You” by The Fucks.
Harman on Newsnight Never seen someone blink so much on TV.
Wondered why.
Google’d rapid blinking
Result:
Rapid blinking blocks vision and can be an arrogant signal, saying ‘I am so important, I do not need to see you’.
Rapid blinking also flutters the eyelashes and can be a coy romantic invitation.
Question: Is she trying to fuck us or does she want to be fucked?
The former, in all that is good and sacred please be the former!
“Question: Is she trying to fuck us or does she want to be fucked?”
The former most certainly, the latter I’d beg to be excused.
Rapid blinking is also associated with anxiety and panic according to the medical source I looked at, as well as Tourette’s syndrome. Most regard it as a sign of lying.
It is totally unacceptable that Brown should pay his brother £6,000 with no real explanation for what it is for
To state “cleaning services” is just good enough
The Inland Revenue, quite rightly, would not allow a small company director to do this so why should the Prime Minister be allowed to do it?
The Prime Minister has enough admin staff to pay a cleaner on his behalf, it must have been more troublesome to get his brother to do it
No moral compass again
£6,000 for cleaning the moral compass when it seemed to have a deviation. J Lumley compass adjusters to the gentry to be called it to sort it all out.
Another visit to Ms Lumley’s Room I think
“You have dis-appointed your class mates,your form teacher and me Gordon. I think you’d better go and sit over there quitely and think about what you’ve done for a moment. I’m very very dis-apponted. I believed better of you !”
Breaking news
Bank of Scotland loose 860 million in first 3 months of the year
Have they checked at the back of the sofa ? Surprising where loose change get gets to !
The Banks will collapse anyway, the only difference is we needn’t have attempted to prop them up. Keynesian economics at its absolute best, because you just know that when the statements come out ‘no one could have foreseen’ blah blah or ‘ongoing economic burden…’ and another black cheque will be sent off.
Its no great surprise then that the only economic model that predicts what happens when you prop up dead companies and print the deficit is at the polar extreme of current economic philosophy.
Classic Littlejohn in the Mail to-day(all together now):-
“More than 45 years after he released The Times They Are A-Changin’, Bob Dylan is back at the top of British album charts.
Dylan is now 67 and has mellowed with age. But it got me wondering what kind of anthem he would write today if he was still an angry young protest singer surveying the contemporary British political scene. It helps if you do the voice. . .
* Come gather round comrades wherever you are, And admit that this time, GordonBrown’s gone too far, The men in white coats are approaching the door, The Government isn’t worth saving, His performance on YouTube, it was the last straw, He isn’t just mad, he’s stark raving.
Come loyal backbenchers and vote with your feet, The pollsters all say you will lose your safe seat, It’s six-to-four on that you’re gonna get beat, The way that this madman’s behaving, Your party is heading for certain defeat, For the times they are a-changin’.
Come Cabinet ministers, you all know the score, Put down your red boxes and run for the door, Admit that New Labour is dead on the floor, The roof wasn’t fixed and it’s raining, Forget Alan Johnson or Jolly Jack Straw, It’s not just the leader needs changing.
Come Westminster pundits, you all got it wrong, You told us that Gordon was clever and strong, But then he turned out to be weak all along, Though he pretended the world he was saving, And now that he’s finished, you’re achangin’ your song, Because Gordon is drowning, not waving.
The line it is drawn, the curse it is cast, At the General Election, you’re gonna come last, The days of dear Prudence are all in the past, You’ve stolen our pensions and savings, Unemployment and taxes are going up fast, And we’re going to vote Call Me Dave in.”
Billy Bragg is thankfully silent these days.
Not a patch on Billy Bragg
Best laugh I have had in ages (and why not it is at my expense)
Culture secretary Andy Burnham reportedly bought the freehold on a flat he already owned and then claimed back the stamp duty and other moving costs.
He said he did not profit from the transaction and had only made “allowable claims”.
Er,he certainly did profit as I helped pay for his moving costs and stamp duty.
Just to clarify matters he said ‘I reject absolutely any suggestion that I have not used public funds properly since I entered Parliament,” he said.
“Indeed, over the last five years, I have under-claimed on my Additional Costs Allowance by around £40,000.”
Isn’t this the whole point? It’s not an entitlement. It’s for costs incurred.
Hazel Blears is said to have claimed for expenditure under the Additional Costs Allowance on three different properties during the same year, spending £5,000 on furniture in three months.
A spokesman for Ms Blears said she had done nothing wrong and the furnishings she had bought were “reasonable”.
“Hazel is honest as the day is long,” said the spokesman.
Yes,that would be a day in the Arctic.In winter.
Thieves,every one of them.
Boffin, You quote Burnham, “Indeed, over the last five years, I have under-claimed on my Additional Cost Allowance by around £40,000.”
You go on to say “Isn’t this the whole point? It’s not an entitlement. It’s for costs incurred”.
Boffin, you are quite right and have identified the core issue in this whole sorry affair. For Burnham reveals the mindset of these venal bastards. But he also does so as if he’s some goody-goody who’s not quite so bad as the others. Can’t he and the rest of them see it’s not an under-claim for something you never had. The maximum allowance should not be seen as a bloody target that has to be reached at all costs (no pun intended).
The real evidence, though, lies in the number of MPs who manage to ‘spend’ and claim to the penny the maximum ACA. Not possible in the real world; unless, of course, MPs will suggest that they actually legitimately spend more than they are allowed to claim but pay the extra out of their own pockets. Oh yeah.
Hazel is as short as a Munchkin’s dick, and as honest as her quim hair is long.
“The Daily Telegraph begins a series of articles today”
They’ll be please about that then.
Shout about the troughers. Fill in the DWP forms for benefit cheats. Ring the hotline on 0800 854 440.
These troughers must be stopped.
I went to bed early last night and missed all this. When I opened up the Telegraph page this morning I thought I was reading a spoof for a minute. It’s absolutely shocking – surely this has to be the end of Brown – I know he has a brass neck and is completely shameless – time for the Queen to dissolve this rotten barrel of apples and open up the Tower for a few inmates whilst it’s sorted. Morning folks.
SCUM! All of them, thieving scum. We’ve been waiting to find out the extent of this scandal, and now it’s coming at us, thick and fast. I’ve never posted before but am as enraged as Drogba by the venality of our Westminster heroes.
A number of people in my company have recently lost their jobs and others are fearful as a review takes place, but the scum in Parliament can insulate and featherbed themselves and their families, all at taxpayers expense. All within the rules, because they make the rules and enforce the rules. I really cannot convey the full extent of my anger and contempt for the ‘honourable’ members of The Commons and the Lords. I hope they read these blogs and develop some understanding of what disgusting creatures they have become.
How can McGlobal think its the ‘right thing to do’ to give £6000 to his EDF (thats the bunch who want to build new nukes and let us pay for the insurance and decommissioning) consultant brother and not RESIGN?
He MUST BE MAD if he thinks he can get away with this.
yeah i saw that, the guy who in charge of our extortionate electric bills is getting backhanders from his brother, its a ruse and the public will see it as a ruse. Why the hell does Gordon have another westminister flat or is this the “entertaining” flat if you get my meaning.
The MAD part is a given (in all senses but most particularly as in stark raving and dangerously bonkers) .
I am shocked by all this. SHOCKED.
To think that there was so much more that I could have got away with !
Look Fred you’re a BANKER you’re now the scum of the earth – it was all YOUR fault -it started in America first NOT here – we hardworking MPs are ENTITLED to our expenses we’ve had to try and put things right under the REMARKABLE leadership of the only man who can save us – GORDON BROWN
(Is that ok? who do I claim the expenses from – oops left the mike on)
Dear Old Holborn – Just as Scots independence will surely come there are some of us already clambering into the backs of lorries to enter England illegally. Get the Social Services cheques ready
Spot on !
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/
“Parliamentary Fees Office accepted this was done inadvertently and had written to Mr Brown to apologise for not spotting the mistake.”
Does that really mean what I think it does?
Sorry we should have mentioned it earlier Prime Minister it’s certainly “nothing to do with you !” – just because the claims forms had your name on it and you signed it. A mistake anyone could make but it was OUR mistake not YOURS
I can’t wait for my next letter from HMRC apologising for me submitting an incorrect income tax statement.
Amidst all these inadvertent mistakes being rectified has anyone come across an MP inadvertently claiming too little and going back for more?
Watching SKY news 5 mins ago, some pleb wearing a yellow tie highlighting the newsworthy stories in various newspapers this morning thought the MP’s expenses was overblown and “it would be interesting to see how long it would last”. He thought it was all rather amusing.
The news presenter had a look of “God, this is boring” written all over his face.
The truth is the population in this country by and large have been so badly educated for so long now they do not know the difference between right and wrong, even if they think the subject is boring.
This country has had it.
Oh the presenter is such a git, he is such a labour bias hoon, he wouldnt let anyone have a go at labour.
Guido has 503 posts before 8.00am and the BBC says the public is now fed up with these revelations. What a bunch of stupid fuckers
To hell with the BBC.
Getting bored of how they feel they are the global benchmark for anything and everything.
Anyone with half a brain cell knows they have a pro socialist bias. They don’t even try to hide it anymore.
It is our national duty not to be bored by this. It tells us all we need to know about the character, priorities and motivation of the individuals concerned. Don’t let Robsinson’s mates at the BBC tell us when to let it go…
Bet the BBC will revel in it when some details on MPs of other parties – most particularly the Tories – are published.
I had exactly the same thought about “It has since been corrected”. Do we get to learn when exactly these “errors” were “corrected”? That would make interesting reading.
actually Brown only repaid the double plumbers bill yesterday when it was pointed out, in other words he thought he had got away with it.
Straw it was mentioned did the same yesterday
devious twat
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Porn films and bathplugs?
Yes, this is the stuff we need to know. They will twist and turn to avoid telling us, but it is a vital part of the picture.
Also, useful if we can to compare the DTel’s copies with the redacted versions due out just before MP’s long summer break. See what they cross out for “security” reasons.
They won’t dare now, Teles has the uncensored stuff so no point trying to hide.
They can do the suicide bit they’ve been “threatening” or follow Udder and fly off to the holiday paradise of Bangladesh.
Expenses are just that,expenses, when you abuse them for personal gain then that is fraud,
Well I was always taught by the wise old owls not to fiddle expenses, “it’s not worf it” they’d say. It wasn’t, when the expense was a pub lunch and the risk was your job and your reputation.
But when your expenses are six figure and every other fucker is at it and if you’re caught you can brazen your way out of it with an injured look and the pathetic excuse that it was within the rules and you fiddled your expenses, “in good faith”. You know everyone else will back you up, coz they know you’ll not go down alone.
And it is these same people who are stopping a few honest Nepalese lads, who don’t fiddle their expense and have risked their lives for this country without question or weasley excsue, from becoming citizens.
It is no wonder they are held in contempt of the Court of Public Opinion (thanks for that one Harriet dear) and will soon be sentenced accordingly.
What do you expect when you give the lower orders the keys to the palace
I think you’ll find that most of the honourable members went to the same private schools as their contemporaries. The lower orders in our country now are the taxpayers. It takes that public school confidence really to trough on the scale these scumbags appear to have done.
What a load of crap. The public school boys in Parliament tend to be the hopeless ones. They were taught right from wrong, some have lost their way. Greed you see in their case.
It’s the ones who went to the sink comps who have learned well how to duck n dive, bob n weave to cheat. They came from nothing, will return with nothing. Live for the day merchants. Greed and never having had it and getting a taste for the high life.
Either way they are all thieving,lying, unprincipled, weak, impressionable, hopeless, unemployable.
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….you left out “and ENVIOUS”,
That’s were the socialist scum come from
Joey Jones on sky is such a labour fellator….”nothing in here should bring anyone down”, wanna bet sunshine..
Well I’ve just heard on the BBC that (in the newsreader’s opinion) the expenses claims aren’t of the magnitude that will cause any resignations (well of course they fucking won’t – that’s news?) and compared to the type of claims that our continental cousins get up to, they are really quite minor.
So, in other words, we should be grateful!
Well the jury in the Court of Public Opinion is still out and I suspect it will not be out for long.
same from the twat on sky, sorry but this is just ridiculous, we’d all be in jail or fired for doing this.
If you overclaimed council tax and mortgage fraud like Straw you’d be up in from of the magistrates, fined and jailed.
British Politics is now well and truly in the sewer.
Started with Dolly-McBride
The only way to deal with this – as they’re not going to sack themselves – is an angry march on Parliament, blocking Whitehall and Trafalgar Square. Will it happen? Of course not.
Why should mp’s get away with buying a place on taxpayers, decorating it on taxpayers, selling it, pocketing the capital gains 6 months later, then do it all over again, its blatant fraud.
Buying a freehold, decorating the place and then claiming back the stamp duty, its pure dishonesty.
Its a personal bank loan really if you look at it and then defaulting.
Why do they get to keep the property, i they purchae a place with taxpayers fund, they should either hand it back when they leave the commons or pay back all the expenses from capital gains which they AVOID.
If you or I did any of this, the inland revenue would bust your ass for every single penny then ruin your credit for years.
Just listening to Evan Davis shredding Harriet Harman on Radio 4 Today programme now – worth a listen again, but I think Evan could be laying in a bit more.
Evan, unfortunately, has never been the most gifted of interviewers when it comes to putting Political figures under any sort of withering scrutiny.
Luckily Harman does a splendid job of sounding pathetically corrupt and weasely without any outside help.
646 new cases of Swine Plague being reported. Health officials are reporting all these new cases contracted the disease from eating from the same infected trough.
Just waiting for the first fatalities.
Gordon’s wage to cleaner shows he may pay well, while Jacqui Smith has not given her cleaner a raise in three years.
Is her husband the cleaner?
is Brown a special needs patient? is he in some care in the community programme? is Brown’s brother Gordon’s carer?
Who else do you know who pays his “brother” for “cleaning services”
Toanails Robinson suggests that if if Brother had not organised it the flat would not have been cleaned, fair enough the Brother sorted it out in the first place but why make the Brother a middleman, it is hardly a complex financial transaction and it does leave Brown open to questions that it was a fraudulent relationship
Either way it just shows Brown lack basic intelligence and lacks the political judgement required to run a country
If he’s too incompetant to organise the cleaning of his own flat its no wonder understanding the national economy was beyond him.
Why the hell does Gordon have another westminister flat or is this the “entertaining” flat if you get my meaning.
Exciting days ahead Guido so I thought that this may be of use to you!
I only heard the last 5 minutes of Harriet Harman’s Today interview and I didn’t have your explanatory list to hand but I believe she may have used each and every excuse; maybe someone could “fisk” the interview – that might be interesting.
Do we know whether Brown declared in his tax return the rental income on his illegally sublet constituency office before this practice was found out?
Given the expenses news, I expect the wife of the state-subsidised bluemovie rater to release the Hillsborough files this morning.
These MPs all sound like Father Ted when he regularly explained that “the money was just resting” in his account.
hahahahahaha
Wow, Harman is getting roasted on Sky and she is squirming, she is making it worse for them all.
Evan Davis quite rightly severely questioning Harman on “Today” whilst Nick Robinson clearly on the defensive on behalf of Nu Lab. He’s quite blatant and the BBC should be ashamed.
I’d happily slap the hell out of Nick Robinson, he’s a disgrace to political journalism.
They’ve wheeled out Harman to defend the Government and all she can repeatedly trot out is that the British Parliament is not as bad as others. Disgraceful.
Harman is the last person you’d want to trot out, lest we forget her shameful stuff during the labour donations scandal, she’s not clean either.
She is a ‘Trot’ of sorts!
Look, if I didn’t arrange for Gordon’s flat to be hosed out once a week, who would? Would you want to go there? Thought not! And surely £6K is peanuts for you little taxpayers to pay to cut the risk of a global scabies outbreak being traced back to his handshake? We have to think of this country’s image overseas.
Why do MPs claim for food? My tax adviser says that because you HAVE to eat regardless of wheter you are employed or not, it is not a reasonable business expense. Maybe MPs need the money to buy more food than needed to fill the proverbial trough. MP = Munching Pigs.
Ministers and other MP’s don’t even have to buy food – they get invites to all manner of lunches and dinners that trips to the supermarkets are only for us common people – remember some of them do not even know how much a loaf of bread is!! I met one Labour life peer who bragged that she had not bought any food for TEN years just mumped her meals from all and sundry
1. Why are these expenses not means tested? everything else is. 2. if they get help with paying for the second home, the money should be paid back after the MP has exploited the rising (as it was) housing market. 3. Anything bought for a second home should be public property when the home is no longer needed, ebay it all for charity. 4. a rail/flight pass should be issued for travel. 5. A westminster hotel should be bought to house MPs when in London, rooms should be rented out to the public when not in use. 6. worst of all is value for money, everyone i have ever known who has actual dealings with government says that they do not care about value for money.
Joanna Lumley is on the rampage again on Radio 4.
Splendid comedy and theatre as Phil Woolas stupidly tries to “rectify” his hilarious bungling confrontation yesterday.
His quivering tremulous attempts at “damage control” are pure Gold.
The man is clearly a masochist of quite some severity
Radio doesn’t do the situation full justice. The embarrassment of the man was plain to see yesterday – his ears were bright red.
Joanna Lumley is doing her best to rehabilitate the govt by driving everyone mad with her shrewish nagging. I’m completely won over by the contrasting calm and measured tones of Phil Woolas.
Sounded to me like Woolas had given up and couldn’t give a f*** anymore.
When your enemy is defeated and on the run, that’s when you release the cavalry to destroy them utterly. Good for Joanna.
don’t dare slag of our lovely lummers, bog off troll.
dddddd do I detect a hint of sarcasm?
Remember what happend to the last imposter, Perkin Warbeck.
Did it hurt?
Feel Woolass ?? Ding dong !
Woolas just sounds like a naughty boy caught up to no good by his strict and elegant headmistress.
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Excuse me, I need to go and… lie down for a minute.
Nice one, Perkin. Lunch as usual in the Beeb staff canteen?
The whole lot should be investigated by the Fraud Squad.
Why ? Accountancy is not my strongest suit and now I intend to draw a line under this, learn the lessons, move on and get on with the job.
The whole country would want me to get on with the job and that is what I shall be doing; getting on with the job.
As am I
Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt.
In an effort to save some people a little time, I’ve written the following statement to be cut and pasted as and when required;
In light of recent allegations regarding my private life, I would like to make the following statement.
I have been happily married for xx years to my dear wife xxxxxxxxxxxx. We have x wonderful children of whom we are both very proud.
It has come to light through the recent publication of MP’s receipts that I regularly made trips to xxxxxxxx to stay at the xxxxxxx hotel with a companion/researcher/prostitute/neo nazi prostitute/rent boy/colleague [delete as necessary].
Therefore, in an effort to protect my wife from any further embarrassment, I am today offering my resignation as the Member of Parliament for xxxxxxxxx.
Finally, I would like to thank my wife for her unwavering support at this difficult time and assure those close to us that our relationship is stronger than ever.
Thank you.
Oh Fank u, fank u, fank u 4 that.
as a prer-derct ov nooliber skoolin ‘n that i can’t think or write v well
a. n. otherfucka
mp
Has Brown complied with the relevant tax law in paying his brother to act as a a cleaner?
His claim was for cleaning services, not as finacial intermediary
Does his brother have the necessary public liability insurance, because I am sure that if there was a claim as a result of negligent cleaning his brother would be a party to the action
Brown just cannot do this, it is not tranparent, it is wrong
Surely this counts as income to his brother. I assume he declared it?
yes it should, you are right
Well would you clean up after me for less than six grand?
Perhaps. But if you had been entertaining Mark Oaten the night before, I might charge a premium.
“Lessons have been learned“ – we have got away with it, but we won’t do it again. No, this means “we will start doing it again when the heat has died down and we have devised a cleverer way of doing it.”
I like the Straw Defence – “accountancy is not my strong suit” and “I was doing it in marginal (?) time” – i.e., I did it carelessly and in a rush. We should all try that one on Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs.
Harman on box this morning…… “MP’s that have to work and live in 2 places need to be able to claim.”
So if it good enough for them to take public money as expenses for two work locations, then it is good enough for the rest of us too. So I expect everone that has to work in more than one location to be able to claim this off their tax bills. NOT!!!
Is anyone compiling a register of all the swindles? It would be helpful to avoid anyone slipping through the net. A record of the excuses offered in each fraud case would be useful for future reference when stories start changing.
I think Straw should resign immediately, this is absolutely scandalous.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli…icle6245848.ece
In May 2008 the High Court ruled that MPs’ expenses must be published. Two months later the Justice Secretary returned the difference, covering four years’ payments, to the Commons authorities with a hand-written note. “I have been checking my claims since 04 and I have realised that my claims for council tax have been incorrect,” he wrote. Blaming an oversight of his “zero occupancy discount” he added: “I’m afraid that the reality of life over the last few years is that I’ve often had to complete the claims in marginal time and without recourse to all the records.”
IF YOU OR I DID THIS WE WOULD DOWN THE POLICE STATION, BANGED UP AND INLAND REVENUE WOULD BE THROUGH YOUR ACCOUNTS WITH A FINE TOOTHCOMB.
STRAW RESIGN NOW.
This is especially bad because
a) of his judicial position as Justice Secretary
b) he is an ex Home Secretary
c) he has defrauded his own electorate that have voted for him
d) he did so as he knew the game was up.
What is needed is for receipts to be disclosed for the entire period of their time in Parliament or at least for as long as records are required to be kept, which I suppose is the time for HMRC purposes ie 7 years
Expect a flurry of little old ladies having their televisions returned four years later with a hand written note attached to them saying, “terribly sorry for the oversignt. Unfortunately smack has made my life bit of a mess and my records are all over the place. I had inadvertently forgotten that this wasn’t mine.”
Accountancy is not my strongest suit and now I intend to draw a line under this, learn the lessons, move on and get on with the job.
The whole country would want me to get on with the job and that is what I shall be doing; getting on with the job.
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As am I
Can we expect The Sun or News of the World to send round a suitably attired “cleaner” for a nice photo-op proudly displaying a placard proclaiming
“Will clean up this filthy Parliament for Free! £6000 not required.”
Only a matter of time surely ?
From today’s Grauniad
[Sir Stuart] Bell [the Labour MP who sits on the House of Commons commission]said: “If this was received by unauthorised means, it is disgraceful that a national newspaper should stoop so low as to buy information which will be in the public domain in July. It undermines the very basis of our democracy.”
Q1. If its readily available now why are we to wait ’till July?
Q2. Were you not planning to publish a sanitised version?
Q3.How, precisely, does putting public information in the public domain undermine democracy?
Q4 Do you have a comment to make on the level of stoop exhibited by those exposed.
‘Er… um… spirit and letter of the law… um… Gordon Brown… right man for the times! You see… undermines the… we’re all pretty guilty, you see… dark day for democracy!
…
And How!’
I detect the hand of Mandy or Campbell.
Expect Government underlings, apologists and spinners to try and frantically “steer” the story to the Telegraphs publishing of the details rather than the details themselves.
Can’t see it working though. There’s just far too much for the Press to feed on now. And they do love a good sleaze up.
6k for cleaning?
Cleaners get paid around 7 an hour (if they’re lucky).
Assuming the cleaner works every week, that 16 hours cleaning a week, for a flat?????
Is he, you know, crapping on the carpet or something?
Ooooooh.
Well if you were going to walk into a flat that Gordon Brown had been in recently, wouldn’t you want to know that it had been cleaned in the most thorough way imaginable?
you do get the impression he is a bit of a dirtbird really. I couldnt do it, if I was Sarah, i’d have to have a steel scrub and hazmat suit just inside the door.
Surely Purnell’s the one to ask about dirty flats.
No allowance for negative equity either. Let them go bankrupt.
that is brilliant
Even toenails this morning said ” but our MP’s are nowhere near as bad as other countries MP’s and so this whole affair is just a storm in a teacup ”
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
And my wife says I get wound up too easily theseadays !
I was hoping Joanna Lumley would have been tempted to deal with his questioning yesterday about the political affiliations of her Gurkha campaign by asking him whether he would really want her to explain on live TV why he is known as “Toenails” on the internet.
Why is he?
Yoink!
Fucking BBC. I know you can say that most mornings but… still. Fucking BBC. Nick Robinson. Is there a lower form of life in the media than Nick Robinson?
However, young Evan on Today played a nice one with Harriet “if you disagree with me you are a terrorist” Harman – switching her around sweetly on discussion of second homes, tossing a few suggestive hints in that some ministers might have claimed for CGT relief on “second” homes, she didn’t know what to say. Keep ‘em guessin lad, let’s see what comes.
hattie’s best response was that westminster MPs aren’t as corrupt as some others around the world – makes you proud eh?
Oh and I love Darling’s excuse for claiming hotel bills while his second second home was being rennovated – he was “between second homes”. C u n t.
Let’s have a think now – does anybody think we’d be making a major mistake if we simply marched them all into parliament square, and shot the fucking lot of ‘em? Oh I’m sure there are patches of decency, I know there are, but y’know, just to be sure.
“if we simply marched them all into parliament square, and shot the fucking lot of ‘em?”
Ruin the grass! Drop em off in Helmund Province and give them the equipment they scrimped on giving our troops and see how long they will last.
That new John Lewis list in full.
Kalashnikov (gold plated)
Improvished Explosive Device – Iranian import
Goat herder – local, very cheap to run
Local hand woven rugs – look great in that 2nd hut.
Rocket propelled grenade – 3 for the price of 2 just this week.
Stupid looking hat.
Beard trimmer – out of stock sorry.
Oil painting local – “poppies by sunset”
Bathplug. (Unused)
Patio heater heavily discounted 99% off to clear surplus stock
Croquet set, owner no longer uses – no balls.
‘hattie’s best response was that westminster MPs aren’t as corrupt as some others around the world – makes you proud eh?’
Maybe it started in America ???
So is Hattie saying Westminister MP’s ARE corrupt?
A clear admission of guilt if ever there was one,
No, we should nuke Parliament from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
ending with Ripley, battling Queen Alien Harmon in the loading bay, clad in a walking forklift truck…excellent…!!!!!!
Are you Cinna the Poet or Cinna the Conspirator?
“It was within the rules” aka Nazi guards at Auschwitz “I was just following orders”
precisely.
There’s one missing.
The majority of MPs are honest – Half[1] are corrupt, and the other half looked the other way
Nick
[1] Substitute the actual percentage
Half….. er…… 50% ?
I know 1/2 is 50%. I was educated before the current shower got in.
Is it a minority or the majority? I suspect the majority are on the fiddle, based on the sample published by the Telegraph where half the cabinet were fiddling.
A discussion of the disadvantages of being an incumbant with the taint of pork is called for.
How much can we expect the vote against a porking MP to swing against them?
So the question is………….
Where will Brown disappear to this week to avoid everyone, Afghanistan, Germany, Pakistan, Australia.
Place your bets now.
One beacon of honesty and integrity – Philip Hollobone, Tory MP for Kettering.
One to watch for the future I feel.
You may be right. Perhaps we have gone far enough attacking those we know are at fault and form some sort of short list, or profile on those that really could be good for the country.
All of us are profiled, I say the surveillance state can go both-ways but it may as well be something positive, because no matter how much I detest the current administration saying how much I do will never make it right.
So where do we start?
Trouble is they are all the same.
Emailed Cameron about Pickles and got the expected response “Eric is a good guy and he has abided by the rules.
Fuck em all!!!
Anyway..away from all the spleen venting,there is a rather nice subliminal to all this ……
It is now quite clear that the Media,en masse,feels perfectly free,and well disposed to, kicking the living shit out of the Government and Brown.
This is a welcome development,and can only mean that ‘they’ can smell the downfall of this stinking,parasitical cesspit executive.
Apart from the BBC perhaps….
There seems to be a lot of debate about why Brown’s cleaning bill for his flat is so high whilst living Downing street
Did they need specialist contract cleaners to jet wash the place down after Brown’s special nights in with his chums?
drip… drip… drip… drip… drip…
‘Ere never mind wot they spend on themselves. How much do they spend keeping their voting constituents sweet?
If I woz to shout ‘..oooohhh sore back cannae get upstairs…’ would that mean an magical Stannah stairlift installation at the taxpayers expense.
I think so and many times over
This is spot on. Politicians are trying to pull the wool over our eyes with jargon, when they should be giving back the money they’ve stolen.
I still don’t understand second home allowances, yes MP’s may need to have a residence in London if their constituency is way up north, but surely giving them a rail pass and converting one of the many undesirable housing blocks in London into communal MP’s residence would have been cheaper for the Taxpayer, especially in the long run?
And why do MP’s need to own their flats/houses/whatever, the term is 5 years, do they then give them back?
Why aren’t the 646 being asked the honourable question?
If the revealing of MP’s expenses had not come into the public domain would they have carried on as they were or would they have said that the system of (legitimate) claiming was not equitable and must be changed without delay?
Are all MPs desperate now to keep their snouts out of the trough?
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May 10, 2009 at 12:27 am
Asking the Questions on McBride.
Copy of Email (and response) to my local NuLabour MP:
Thank you for your response, xxxxx, and your agreement that this type of behaviour within government is entirely unacceptable. I understand the Prime Minister took immediate and effective action to ensure that Mr McBride was no longer associated with Government.
As you ask whether further assistance can be offered, may I ask that you formally confirm (or have confirmed on my behalf) that Mr Damian McBride is not, and will never wil be in future, employed by either of Downing Sreet or the Civil Service ?
Thank you.
xxxxxx
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Subject: RE: Choosing the right path.
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:45:29 +0100
From: xxx@parliament.uk
To: xxxxx@hotmail.com
Dear xxxxxx
I write to thank you for your email sent on 15th April 2009. I was appalled by the actions of Damian McBride and agree that the current political culture at the heart of Government needs to change. It is vital in a Parliamentary democracy that discussions within Government and also within political parties on policy issues are allowed to take place and I believe it is totally wrong for this to be stifled and for personal attacks to occur against people who may disagree with the Prime Minister.
I was pleased to see Mr. McBride resign and hope the Prime Minister now acts to ensure that decisions are taken in a much more open and transparent environment.
I agree with you that huge damage has been done by not just this episode but by various others.
If you feel I can be of any further assistance on this or any other issue please do not hesitate to get in touch.
With Best Wishes,
xxxxxxx
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