April 23rd, 2009

Iain Martin Leaving Labourgraph

Iain MartinDon’t know why or if he even has somewhere to go, but source is reliable.   Maybe Iain is too Conservative leaning for the newspaper’s political team.  The political team has just been strengthened by importing Ben Brogan from the Daily Mail.  On the other hand it has been weakened by the loss of contributing editor Damian McBride, who supplied stories to the chief copy-taker, Andrew Porter.

Guido is also all too well aware that there are internal recriminations at The Telegraph over how it has handled Smeargate.  The Guardian this morning is reporting something of the story.  The Telegraph’s official line is that they aren’t bothered, a TMG spokesperson told the Guardian “As you might imagine, we did not entirely buy [Guido's] version of events. But we are relaxed about it, to be honest.”

Well perhaps they might like to explain their version of events after everyone has seen this:

From : Christopher Hope
To : Guy Fawkes

Date : Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:09 PM
subject :  Non-disclosure agreement
mailed-by telegraph.co.uk

…This is to confirm that we, the Telegraph Media Group, are happy to give you our assurance that anything that you show to us tomorrow (April 3) will be in confidence, for our information, and will not be published in any form without your explicit and prior agreement.

Yours sincerely

Christopher Hope
Whitehall Editor
The Daily Telegraph
111 Buckingham Palace Road
London
SW1W 0DT

SmokescreenAs far as Guido is concerned they have behaved abysmally. They tipped off Downing Street with details of a politically serious story, publishing a spoiler that might as well have had Damian McBride’s byline (it didn’t mention him), they then alone of any newspaper in the world published a hatchet job of a profile. So if you are a source with an important political story, best you give the Telegraph a wide swerve.  They can’t be trusted.  They are likely betray your confidence and reveal you as the source…

UPDATE : Iain Martin has not responded to Guido’s emailed request for comment. So read into that what you will. Also have just noticed that Michael Ellam told the Lobby in the first briefing in the aftermath of Smeargate that the first Downing Street knew about Smeargate was when they were contacted on Friday night (by “national press” aka The Telegraph.)


337 Comments

  1. 1
    do I look like a people person? says:

    A good strapline

    The Telegraph – the paper that betrays it’s sources!

    • 27
      Plato says:

      An epitaph if ever I saw one.

      HAHAHAHAHA

      Bravo, encore, more!

      • 169
        SJ says:

        Really should be trotty-graph though don’t you think?

      • 281
        Anonymous says:

        No, I like that: Trotgraph.

        Not really true but probably one for the backwoodsmen and for all of those in search of a cheeky laugh at the Trotgraph’s expense.

      • 330
        backwoodsman says:

        actually, we’re all closet guardianistas

      • 334
        Old reactionary says:

        That’s why the Trotgraph got rid of Peter Simple. He was the only one that told the TRUTH.

    • 65
      I am not a gynaecologist, but I will take a look says:

      call that a strapline?

    • 120
      Anna R says:

      Well done Guido – best avoided, for reading or contributing.

    • 140
      Churchill's Cattleprod says:

      The Daily Telegraph – you need a real paper for that “morning after last night’s curry” moment.

      • 157
        Anonymous says:

        Garraway and the Biggest LOSER.

        the irony

        http://www.torybear.com/2009/04/biggest-loser.html

      • 243
        Minekiller says:

        What is Kate Garroway’s background? What are quals, university etc…how did she get to GMTV etc etc, whats the connection?

        I note a lot of stuff here about how ‘hot’ she is etc etc….

        frankyl you guys in the Uk must be desperate to think she is well, a bit of totty.

        Compared to the average mum I see at the local hockey club here where I live in Holland, she has by comparison a face and figure like a busted sofa (DFS quality)

    • 167
      thick as thieves says:

      And the Lord did, at the beckoning of the great thick as thieves, appear before the dirty and lowly masses and he spoke to the filthy mob.
      He spoke to tell them an important truth, in order that they may be less stupid and cretinous and ignorant and smelly.
      The crowd of lepers and thieves fell into a hushed silence for they knew an important truth was about to be revealed to them even though they were greedy and unworthy.
      And the Lord said
      “If you ever ask a suit how they feel about a particular issue and they say they are relaxed about it, then that is the answer of the beast. if they say that word then you will know that they work for the devil and what you should do is this; grab the nearest sharp implement and stab it right through the motherfuckers heart. It’s the only way to kill those blood sucking vampires. That’s an order.”
      Amen

      • 263
        Budgie's socialist moron. says:

        “This isn’t my kind of socialism”.

      • 325
        Doctor Mick says:

        thick as.. is in need of some serious phychotherapy to deal with his issues.

      • 333
        thick as thieves says:

        my health is not in question.
        and mickey, for you to lecture on mental health issues is rather like the yorkshire ripper giving advice on the subject of courtship.
        and what’s with the typing in bold you inadequate spastic? honestly mick, you’re not even spastic, you’re fucking sub-spastic you c’unt!
        hmm … hold on……. you are gordon ‘afghanistan is my vietnam’ brown and I claim my £5 pounds!
        er, no, I won’t accept one of your dodgy scottish fivers.

  2. 2
    Johan says:

    Disgraceful.

    • 188

      I am deeply suspicious of the Telegraph now, and now keep an open mind as to their political direction. Viz – if they support a discredited government, Labour, what use will they be to the electorate come the general election ??

    • 316
      The Shape of Ed Ball's Face says:

      It did not start in America. It started with the shape of Ed Ball’s face.

      seen on political betting.com:

      “and that’s not just the craven coronation of an obvious psycho to be their leader but everything else too from education to crime to Iraq to debt to waste to sleaze to Lisbon to bin inspections to soldiers’ houses to welfare sponging to the police to the shape of Ed Balls’ face – they have just fuc*ed evey single thing they have touched”

      Add they have even fucked up the Telegraph.

  3. 3
    Dame Celia Molestrangler says:

    Good luck to Iain – he’s a very good journo. Maybe you should offer him a column Guido?

    • 37
      idle says:

      He was one of the last two or three worth reading there.

      Well, I’m off, too. Anyone fancy a pint?

    • 38
      Plato says:

      Him and Bill Blanko too.

      I’d never heard of him [not being a regular Grauniad reader] until my daily Draper Google alert arrived earlier today – have posted highlights here

      http://plato-says.blogspot.com

      I have subscribed to his feed if this is typical of his content :wink:

      • 81
        I will take a look says:

        This one is good from Billy Boy – but it might be apocryphal:

        Stephen Pollard, the man who, in January 2001, famously used the first letter of every paragraph in a Daily Express leader column to spell “Fuck you, Desmond”.

  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Are NDA breaches actionable?

    • 7
      Mr Ned says:

      Why would you create one if it were not? Of course they are actionable. It is a contract, offer, consideration and acceptance. If the telegraph signed the NDA then they ARE actionable for any breach.

      • 34
        Anonymous says:

        correct
        don’t even have to sign as email address and statement of fact is good enough and shows that an agreement between two parties has been entered into.

        What legal mileage you actually get out of this one though is very debateable

    • 75
      IRB says:

      Yes but choose from:
      (i) pissing away years of your life and get nothing in return.
      (ii) taking some satisfaction that at least a few of their readership have no intention of buying their piss poor paper ever again.

    • 84
      11 says:

      Telegraph (Barclay Berks) has deep pockets and would obviously defend any legal action vigorously. David vs Goliath – a hiding to nowhere.

      No, much better is what GF is doing keep on, Watergate-style, until every last one of the Liebour scum involved have been outed and despatched. This (mis)government is in such a state of total decay that lots more dirt will ooze out, just watch.

      Keep going Mr Fawkes thousands are alongside you.

      • 249
        Young Mr Paul says:

        That’s not an NDA! They will have the law on their side, even if they are low down dirty dealers

    • 94
      Anonymous says:

      Well, this one doesn’t appear to be. There doesn’t seem to be consideration, so it’s not enforceable as a contract, and it doesn’t seem to be executed as a deed (as most NDAs are). Looks as if it’s worth the paper it is (presumably not) written on.

      Disclosure: I am not lawyer (but I get to sign a shedload of NDAs)

      • 151
        Arnie says:

        Yes, so the court of public opinion is much more potent.

        Cant wait for this months stats for order-order.com

      • 168
        Balcony Brothers says:

        Guido has that commodity which is all too rare these days in the journalistic profession. We are speaking of… integrity, of course.

        We are great admirers of that virtue. Which is why we’d like to buy it.

        How much for your integrity Mr Guido? This is an open cheque offer.

      • 226
        horace says:

        Want of consideration arguments don’t in practice succeed very often and anyway G agreeing to tell them stuff is perfectly good consideration. Your problem here would be proving financial loss caused by the breach of contract.

    • 161
      Anonymous says:

      I agree with the non lawyer – a contract, among other things, must have consideration (a price: even a penny or a peppercorn) or be executed under deed (candlewax will never stick to email).

      This NDA, presumably not forming part of any other contractual arrangement, doesn’t look enforceable but that isn’t really the point.

      If this is how the Tellytubbygraph behaves now with respect to its sources, then that kind of reputation will spread like a dose of clap in the Football Association HQ.

      • 228
        horace says:

        see above.

      • 266
        Apathist Voter says:

        see above above

      • 295
        Lord Justice Cockbrain says:

        All you need for consideration is something of value in the eyes of the law passing from one party to the other which would be to the benefit of other party. That can be a promise. The price for that original promise can be another promise in return. There is no need for consideration to be of economic benefit. Forget peppercorns.

    • 164
      Pilly says:

      Did they publish the e-mail?

      Perhaps he should have got something that said will not be referred to…. rather than what you show us will not be published?

    • 166
      Churchill's Cattleprod says:

      You don’t have to take legal action. If you have, as I presume Guido does, a daily readership of well over 100,000 you can make a serious dent in the Daily Telegraph online readership, and thus also their advertising revenue just by keeping the pressure on every week or so with another story about DTel bias toward Labour. Pretty soon you’ll also get the paper buyers to start thinking twice about buying what is starting to look like a red rag.

    • 213
      The Lawyer says:

      Yes they are actionable and of course there is consideration in that the Telegraph had sight of this hot material before anyone else. The problem for Guido would be damages. Since he gave away the material for free how could he claim to have lost by the Telegraph’s spoiler? This is all the more so as according to the counsel’s opinion given to Guido he could publish risk free only if he gave it away.

      If you’ve read the young Guido’s advice in the New Issue you’ll know that Guido never sues anyone richer than himself so unless he’s richer than the Barclays it’s a non-starter.

      • 293
        Lord Justice Cockbrain says:

        Yes, you need a loss on a contract before you can claim damages – obviously here the only loss would be to his readership and therefore advertising revenue. It has probably never done before but if you could prove that the DT broke a NDA which caused a loss to readership on Guido’s blog and the consequent advertising revenue then there might be a case for loss or damage as a result of the DT’s breach of contract, though it would be impossible to quantify.

        However, my guess is that the way things work is that Guido’s readership would not have dropped because of this spoiler but grown in the long-term – hence no loss of profits as everyone flocked to this site. Smeargate will surely have massively inflated Guido’s readership.

      • 328
        Tusan Tony says:

        212 Lawyer – his damages were lost advertising revenue and more importantly readership numbers, which impacts on the value of his brand and business, I would have said for starters. Worth pursuing though? Highly unlikely.

  5. 5
    SwissBob says:

    I read that newspaper man and paperboy, well actually I read all of them, especially page 3 of the Sun but it was the only newspaper I would buy regulalry until a few years ago.

    I got sick of reading articles about how brilliant Brown was, pages of the execrable stuff. Fuck ‘em, they haven’t had a penny off me for a couple of years now.

    Sadly the Freak borothers have also got their hands on the Spectator.

    • 49
      Plato says:

      Ditto Mr Bob, I thought I was losing my mind when puff pieces by-lined by Brown started appearing.

      I thought the new innovations around layout and content on/offline were pretty far out but slick for their traditional audience but to hatchet the news content was OTTTTTT for me.

      They do great animal picture though :lol:

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/earth/3173441/Animal-pictures-of-the-week.html

    • 61
      Andy Carpark says:

      Iain Martin may well have been the enemy of our enemy but he seldom told us anything we didn’t already know.

      The only Telegraph journalists who do that on a routine basis are Liam Halligan and Philip Johnston and they can surely do better for themselves.

      Under Matthew Custard-Face D’Ancona, emeritus professor of glorified tittle tattle, the Spectator has shrunk to 55 pages of inane drivel along the lines of “Boris Johnson stole my cocktail sausage”.

      The time is fast approaching where lazy client journalists will be reduced to playing air guitar in the street and bellowing tunelessly that the answer is blowing in the wind. I shall encourage my dog to use them as lampposts, from which they should of course be strung up, the useless f*ckaz.

    • 83
      Maggie says:

      I am now thinking of cancelling my subscription, but what right wing alternatives are there?

    • 130
      SwissBob says:

      I’m so slow.

      For those interested, Stanislav, a young polish plumber has the following to say about the Daily Bizarrograph (see righthand sidebar, scoll down a bit, title is ‘Courtesy of Stanislav’s Advertising agency) Stanislav’s Daily Bizarrograph Ad

  6. 6
    LEP says:

    I thought you might be interested in following a live audience with Minister for Children, Ed Balls, at http://www.lep.co.uk/CustomPages/CustomPage.aspx?pageid=78588 from 5.30pm today.

    • 36
      Anonymous says:

      is he being hung?
      I would be very interested then if not then no thanks.

    • 124
      Margy says:

      It’s a complete disaster. The sound on the video is not working and they say there is a technical fault and will be showing highlights later.

      People keep asking about the SATs scandal and I don’t think Balls likes it!! Take a look, it’s quite sad actually!

      They’ve had one commie student asking a proper question (called Edward).

  7. 8
    Old Tory says:

    Can some get me up to speed. I dont read the Telegraph, but I always thought it was a right wing paper. A paper read by vicars, blue rinses and old colonels, what happened?

    • 9
      Mr Ned says:

      Bought out by the Barclay Brothers and turned it into a 3rd way, marxist advert for the “Common Purpose” cancer that is eating our country and deliberately creating as much failure and chaos as possible.

      • 301
        Dr Nuts says:

        Which is interesting as a lot of the managers etc under the Barclay Brothers apparently despise Brown with a passion.

        Apparently from well informed sources – Sarah’s in a sham marriage. She’s there for the hetro-vote. I know that Fondlebum has been mentioning it, and Brown bought him off with the peerage… by the looks of it, but the story has been on going for about 7 years that I know of.

    • 11

      They got lazy, complacent and allowed themselves to be corrupted by taking copy directly from the teats of Drowning Street’s fetid press nipples.

    • 13
      Icarus says:

      Alex cartoon is good though!

    • 40
      A Hastings gentleman who reads says:

      We get, at chez nous, the Torygraph. I do the crossword but like the obituary column best.

      • 60
        Seen-it-all-before, mate says:

        Fortunately we too take the Torygraph as we promised to get about 10 years supply for small contribution to their sinking fund.
        The letters page is OK especially as they printed one of mine last year but they forgot to send a fee. The best journo they have is St Jeff Randall closely followed by Simon Heffer who hates every politician in the world. Even his bile has bile.
        Up the workers and vote Ukip next time.

      • 70
        Hanging's too good for the bastards says:

        Perhaps the Hoonsville Gazette will publish its own obituary.

      • 98
        Plato says:

        The Smeargraph appears to have been in The Priory over the weekend and have published some appalling graphs – the kind that go blah blah oops blah oh FUCK.

        http://plato-says.blogspot.com/2009/04/economy-under-labour-graph.html

  8. 10
    Anonymous says:

    The Telegraph?

    It is dead to me.

  9. 12
    Dolly the sheep says:

    No needs Red Rag, when we have the Telegraph in our pocket!

  10. 14
    Anonymous says:

    did you know that Mr Porter went to the Arsenal game with Mr McBride after Mr McBride was sacked!!! No doubt to show solidarity!!

  11. 15
    jgm2 says:

    I migrated to the Telegraph from The Independent along with Miles Kington and Matt. It used to be good when they had Auberon Waugh but his replacement is worthy of a Private Eye Polly Filla pisstake all of his own somebody Brown is it? Fucking shite and that is being generous.

    Used to get a free copy courtesy of my wife’s company. Now make do with picking ‘em up free at airport lounges. Good only for crossword and Matt cartoon plus the economics guy whose name escapes me right now.

    • 63
      jgm2 says:

      Forgot too that at the time their Obituaries were required reading. Who could ever forget the Obituary of the third Lord Moynihan….

      The third Lord Moynihan provided through his character and career ample ammunition for critics of the hereditary principle. His chief occupations were bongo drummer, confidence trickster, brothel-keeper, drug-smuggler and police informer…… and on and on for practically half a page. Fucking hilarious.

      We had it cut out and pinned to the notice board as inspiration.

    • 69
      crackers says:

      Roger Bootle and Liam Halligan. Jeff Randall.

      Bron Waugh – oh how we need him now.

  12. 16
    Blake's7 says:

    I wouldn’t wipe my arse with it, not only is it prone to smearing, it is also unfair to my shit. And so say we all.

    • 62
      Anonymous says:

      You can’t wipe your arse with it because it’s already full of shit!

    • 107
      do I look like a people person? says:

      Actually I find my chihuahua is very useful when I run out of Telegraph/toilet paper.

      Only I have to remember to rinse him off under the tap afterwords.

      He gets very cross if I don’t.

  13. 17
    Peter Grimes says:

    Come on Guido, that is about as watertight as Mandy’s sphincter!

    Your missus will have told you that NDA isn’t worth the paper it is printed on, and binding in honour only!

    It does show what slimy duplicitous lying gits infest the Labourgraph, though!

  14. 18
    perdix says:

    The only difference between the Mirror and the Telegraph is that the former publishes Nulab’s scurrilous rumours and the latter embellishes Nulab’s press releases.

  15. 19

    The MSM has been caught cutting and pasting a few too many times by astute bloggers. They have been revealed to be lazy, venal and in thrall to Government insiders. It has not gone unnoticed that a raft of dismissive articles have appeared about bloggers recently. They have been exposed for what they are and they don’t like it.

    Some people have the mistaken impression that journalists spend their time firing of FOI requests, scouring journals, and meeting shadowy figures in underground car-parks. They do not. They sit there and get told what to write by their editors, and some of the cleverer ones do re-writes. Don’t expect Woodstein.

    I have managed to dig exclusive stories out simply by following google trails.

    The new media is shutting them down and they are behaving like luddites – hardly surprising given their recent history of unionising everything that moves and moonlighting three or four jobs at a time.

    I had to work in an era when the NUJ and the printe unions conspired to tyrannise the newspaper industry. Nothing has changed by the looks of it.

    They are not to be trusted.

  16. 20
    Johnnydub says:

    I made a point of phoning their subscription department up to cancel my order (I think my exact words involved “sticking it up the Barclay brothers arseholes but can’t be sure)

    What they have done to a once proud paper is truly sad, but then the Barclay’s are wankers as their actions on Sark have proven.

    • 136
      Peter says:

      Can you cancel subs to other media outfits that totally compromise ethical and professional standards and breach contrac… excuse me… charters?

      Just wondr’in.

      Personally I am thinking of declaring a FATWa – First Against The Wall now the revolution is here – and a list is already being drawn up. Be afraid MSM print and broadcast lackeys, be very afraid for your funding.

      First he cancelled his sub and they blinked a bit.
      Then he no longer graced them with his online readership, and the advertisers blinked.
      And then he cancelled his licence fee DD, and they had no more blinking credibility left to even think of trying to mount a legal case:)

  17. 21
    The Telegraph - Once a fine newspaper says:

    Obviously trying to suck up to the Brown one, hoping for a ‘Lord and Lady Barclay’ rather than plain old Sir and Sir Barclay.

  18. 23
    Jimmy says:

    Are they the only ones who failed to see how distressed you would be by the attention that came from being identified as the source?

    “we did not entirely buy [Guido's] version of events.”

    For shame!

    Given that there is nothing here to suggest that they published anything you showed them or that you had requested anonymity, perhaps it’s time to stop scraping the barrel on this one. Whineing is undignified.

  19. 24
    Monty says:

    So what are the Barclay Brothers playing at ?
    They must be suffering financial damage to their investment.
    They can’t believe that Gordon will be there long enough to do them any good.
    Are they after some bigger EU type benefit ?

    • 33
      The Telegraph - Once a fine newspaper says:

      Unless it’s an eye on the ‘termination honours’

    • 49
      Geoffrey Robinson says:

      Gordo the Incontinent will shit on the Barclays as he shat on McBride, and I will pick up their rag for nought.

  20. 25

    Telegraph = Hoons

    Labour = Hoons

    Hoon = Huhne

  21. 26
    Blake's7 says:

    O/T (actually no it probably isn’t) but Aljabeeba’s latest headline is

    Tax rise ‘not end of New Labour’

    Does anybody want to tell them or shall we hand them some more meds. Mc fuckface obviously thinks he can still save Labour and win another election. Which means he won’t blow his brains out, I mean what would have to happen for him to stand down and recvognise that he is a Huhne to his very core.

    • 47
      Colt 45 says:

      waste of a good bullet if he did

    • 66

      Don’t even click the inversion of reality that is their article on “Robin Hood”.

      They somehow manage to miss the fact that Robin Hood is a story of an oppressive over-taxing state run by an elite separated from the normal people of the country.

      The BBC is only useful for working out what the latest lefty lie is.

    • 165
      Four-eyed English Genius says:

      He would miss anyway!

  22. 28

    Generally, for a contract to be binding it would probably need to be made out to somebody other than a dead historic figure.

    As entertaining as it is to be referred to by your online name, it probably doesn’t help your legal case.

    If it’s any consolation, I’ve moved away from the Telegraph over this. So that’s one reader they’ve lost.

  23. 30
    Col Heywood Jablowme says:

    Used to be proud to read the Telegraph. Now I wouldn’t use it to wipe the horse’s arse. What’s that young fella Heffer doing still working for them? He most be the only Tory left on the paper. Time to jump ship, before it’s crawling with leftie rats.

  24. 32
    Pip says:

    The Telegraph management are fools.
    Conservative minded supporters have no newspaper left to agree with ! Although I would read the Telegraph first, Times 2nd, Guardian 3rd and Independent 4th – the only paper that did not fawn over Labour and subsequently Gordon Brown, was the Telegraph. Found the Mail a bit depressing and also too fond of G.B.
    Labour have nobbled the paper they wanted to nobble.
    Well – didn’t the Telegraph time that well. No readers left and cosying up for drinkypoos on the Titanic !

  25. 41
    Henry Rogers says:

    Guido,

    Keep us up to speed with the DT’s circulation figures. Like many other of your readers I’ve cancelled my order. There probably aren’t enough blog readers alone to make any difference at all but I doubt the rest of the readership cares for the way the paper has been turned into a Brown mouthpiece. How long will Heffer and Randall stay there, I wonder?

    • 68
      Anonymous says:

      Yeah, I’ve canceled as well. it would be interesting to see if this affair has lasting impact.

    • 108
      madhouse says:

      Randall already moved over to a TV job, he only guests for LabourlieII

  26. 43
    bergen says:

    Still good for wrapping fish and chips.But that’s it.

    • 53
      EU Regulation 0004567/89/00567 Part B section 7 subsection 3 line12 says:

      not allowed

      • 74
        A Hastings gentleman with a laptop says:

        what happened to the computer

      • 80
        Col Heywood Jablowme says:

        But can one wipe the horse’s arse with it? The filly has been suffering from a dose of the squits. Damned messy.

      • 149
        Roberto says:

        @ 43, 53, 74 & 80.

        Thank you all for your contribution, fantastic. Bremner, Bird and Fortune could not have done better.
        Laugh, I thought my trousers would never dry.

  27. 45
    chris g says:

    I always thought the Telegraph was the Torygraph, and now it is the Labourgraph? What’s changed their line?

    Always amusing to read your take on the Dead Trees…..

    • 52
      Jimmy says:

      They refused to pay Guido any money for the stolen e-mail and then wrote a rude story about him.

      They’re dead to him now.

      • 84
        Mrs Crewe says:

        think you’ll find that he didn’t ask for money Jimmy of Labour Central

      • 97
        Jimmy says:

        I’m afraid he’s confessed, although to be fair he does say that after their refusal he decided not to accept.

      • 110
        I will take a look says:

        I doubt the paltry sum of £20k could even begin to match the pleasure Guido has obtained from singeing Brown’s beard.

      • 126

        Jimmy that is not the truth.

      • 131
        Anonymous says:

        106 – Has Mrs Jonah McDoom gone up in smoke then?

      • 156
        Jimmy says:

        Somewhat laconic there Guido. I’m going by the published record. I’m happy to apologise if I’ve misunderstood. Would you care to elaborate?

  28. 51
    Agent 99 says:

    ‘temazepam’

    Thats the yellow stuff that goes between the fruit cake and the icing on top right?

  29. 54

    Thats pathetic…………shocking even for the telegraph

  30. 56
    StrongholdBarricades says:

    Bit of a turkey shoot really

  31. 58
    Barclays pee in a pod says:

    Iain Martin gone

    at damian’s request

  32. 59
    Nu Labour Britain 2009 says:

    O/T but get a load of this story

    A woman who removed her elderly mother from a care home amid worries over her health was shocked to see police and social workers on her doorstep with a battering ram ready to snatch her back. Rosalind Figg was concerned about the treatment her elderly mother was receiving and took her home to look after her personally.

    But social workers in Coventry disagreed with her actions and used a little-known power to take her back. They obtained an emergency warrant from magistrates under the Mental Health Act on the grounds that a “person believed to be suffering from a mental disorder is being ill treated and neglected”.

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090423/tuk-social-workers-snatch-elderly-mother-dba1618.html

    • 67
      jgm2 says:

      They obtained an emergency warrant from magistrates under the Mental Health Act on the grounds that a “person believed to be suffering from a mental disorder is being ill treated and neglected”.

      Interesting. Is this the angle we’ve been searching for to rid us of Brown?

    • 76
      A Hastings gentleman says:

      you just could not make this up!

    • 116
      Anonymous says:

      I think you’ll find that this applies to most people with forms of dementia, who have undergone an assessment by a psychiatric doctor. Once within a care home, they cannot be removed even by a relative in most cases. The government owns them in effect. Most of these care homes are little more than prisons, although of course they call it a, ‘safe and secure environment.’

    • 302
      Dr Nuts says:

      The Mental Health Act Section 7 (with period of confinement maximum 6 months) is ‘If the person is a danger to himself or others’. …

      How many others? Can we have Gordon Sectioned? Section 2 allows 2 weeks for observation, with an option on Section 7.

    • 312
      "For the restless, not the true believers, this one's for you.." says:

      This is not uncommon..

      My friend’s Aunt was taken into care and by the time he turned up they were already making arrangements to have her house sold to pay for her care.

      Problem was, he owned the house outright and they were not best pleased when he told them they couldn’t sell it.

      This act is just another way these fascists can get their hands on your property.

      Make provision so they cannot.

  33. 71
    A Hastings gentleman who is a part-time man-nurse says:

    increase your Mezcal medication from three pills to 20. immediately.

  34. 73
    Desperate Dan says:

    On 5Live yesterday afternoon Kevin Maguire was invited on to give us his opinion on the Budget. (He liked it)
    Appearing with him to give the Conservative view of the Budget – according to Peter Allen – was Andrew Porter!!!!

  35. 77

    Re Quote of the day. Kelvin Mackenzie said on Sky TV…

    “Gordon should take a bottle of brandy and a gun, go to a quiet room, have a drink, then blow his brains out. “

    Did anybody else notice how ill GB looked during the budget. He sat with his eyes glazed over in obvious depression. He looks like he hasn’t slept properly in weeks and it is impacting his already poor judgement as seen in that dreadful video he made just the day before.

    • 144
      A concerned Hastings gentleman says:

      I agree. he does not look well. the video suggests rictus has already started its grim journey. on strictly humanitarian grounds and speaking of journeys I ambled this pm down to the corniche and thence to the Shopping Mall.
      I noticed a lastminute holiday to the bracing Falkland Islands. exceptionally good discount if one goes for more than 30 years. I instructed them to ‘hold’one seat. one 20kg suitcase only. free seating. VC10 out of Brize Norton. Saturday morning early departure. we wish him well. bye..

      • 146
        A concerned Hastings gentleman says:

        why are most of my comments always waiting MODERATION.
        Solon the greek believed in moderation. what a boring bugger he must have been..

        • 153
          Brian Davies says:

          I want to know what is the magic to get a comment posted in the internet DT. The badly formatted rambles of Igonikon Jack get through every time yet not a comment of mine has appeared in six months! I used to think it was because I log on at nearly lunch’ time in England (07.30 in sunny South Carolina) and Lunch Time O’booze, the moderator, had vanished for the pleasures of a liquid snack. But yesterday evening I logged on before bed time, posted a comment and – nix. Perhaps it’s because I once let on that I am over 70 and by cultural definition I must therefore be hopelessly ga-ga.

          • Doctor Mick says:

            And Igonikon Jack is not?

            I think the trick is too agree with the author of the pice or at least appear to.

          • Anonymous says:

            Could be that there aren’t any genuine posters on there at all any more. Wouldn’t be surprised if the few that do appear are written by paid hacks.

          • DT Editor says:

            We like to keep all comment in-house and for that purpose we employ an army of hacklets. The public are a nuisance, don’t toe the party line and most of them haven’t even got a degree. Read all about it at http://www.telegraph.co.uk please.

          • Adrian Prole says:

            I think you mean [...don't tow the party line...], unless of course, you have placed your foot up your arse. Mmm, do you write for the Guarniad?

          • Adrian Prole says:

            This was a reply to DT Editor @9:20, but the numbering has gone to pot again.

          • DT Editor says:

            Prole @ 1024 Are you sure about that? Think once, think twice. Grauniad, indeed.

          • Don Key Kong says:

            is that Lady Ga Ga?

          • Odds Bodkins says:

            Same reason why the BBC tend to over-obfuscate comments on Have Your Say. If they don’t like them they “moderate” them. Very New Labour.

          • "For the restless, not the true believers, this one's for you.." says:

            Try here……

            http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/

          • "For the restless, not the true believers, this one's for you.." says:

            Try here …again!!!

            http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/

          • Fausty says:

            I posted about 10 comments per day, all of which got published – until a few months ago. After that date, regardless of the email address supplied and the nature of the comment, NONE got published hence.

            Perhaps they log IP addresses and have a ‘banned’ list (supplied by the likes of McBride)?

          • Clartmonkey says:

            See 302 above – I posted before I saw your comment.

            The longest, dullest book in the world: ‘Igonikon Jack’s Telegraph Posts’. I occasionally start reading one but, on the stict understanding that I stop as soon as I come upon a conjunction separated from its own clause by a comma and, that usually gets me off the hook by the second line…

          • Clartmonkey says:

            Clartmonkey 5.25am directed at Brain Davies 7.24 pm but it looks like Guido’s threading is all shot to shit….

        • 195
          Resurgemus says:

          Spare us the hypocrisy ?

          So we now have a top rate tax rate of over 50% for the rich – defined as those earning more than £ 150,000.

          An interesting issue is the point flagged up by Vince Cable that the numerous loopholes in the tax system make this a potentially semi-voluntary tax.

          It will be interesting to follow therefore the impact of this tax change on the rich – particularly those rich and their associates who are maintaining higher tax is social justice.

          Some examples are no doubt worth tracking:

          The Blairs
          Lord Sainsbury
          Shaun Woodward
          Geoffrey Robinson

          Will they hold to paying their share or will they go down the tax minimisation route ? It would of course be less than acceptable if they do not wish to support the people and take share the national pain.

          More interesting however are those politicos\commentariat who by their own definition are now wealthy and who are trying to convince us they are just people like us. For example:

          Balls \ Cooper household – two almost rich people ( ministerial salaries are just sub £150,000 ) who will avoid much of the new tax but where the joint remuneration is equivalent to a FTSE 250 CEO or even a banker !

          Kevin Maguire a high earning journo/broadcaster. Kevin likes to tell his readers about the hypocrisy of those living in a rich household and at least we now know this is an informed view. He has of course a huge dilemna ; who should he despise more himself or his CEO ( salary £ 750,000 in 2008 )?

          I could of course list more, but Guido and his readers will know them more comprehensively than myself.

          Taking Kevin Maguire’s moral stance literally could Guido consider a ” Spare us the Hypocrisy” feature to go alongside Porkbusters wherein:

          - he raises the profile of those rich who conveniently forget to declare it to the general public, readers should of course feel welcome to send their nominations
          - he ensures those who support this government’s tax moves, pay their dues over the next decade and do not use accountants, lawyers etc. ( because that’s the rules ) to pass their bills to the rest of us.

          I am sure readers might like to help Guido in his quest to ensure social justice for all of us

          • Dr Feelgood says:

            Good post.

            The other thing that pisses me off about the Labour-supporting media luvvies is that they can easily obviate any decline in their standard of living resulting from increased taxation. They do this by getting their mates to place a few of their pieces in the press, a few more appearances on the BBC, etc.

            We wage slaves on a fixed salary (plus modest performance bonus (not this year!)) do not have option of turning our gross income on or off like a tap.

            Nice travel piece for Mr Brigstock… film review Mr Hardy. Kerching!

          • Jimmy says:

            Excellent idea. If there’s anyone better placed to lead a campaign to ensure people pay their fair share of taxes, then Guido’s your man.

          • Anonymous says:

            Many of our celebrity friends are prime examples of this hypocricy , these hoons are always bleating on about Governments not doing enough to help the worlds poor yet they pay very little tax due to employing clever accountants.

            Some of the worst offenders are the ones who bleat loudest!

            Pathetic.

      • 294
        Fausty says:

        a concerned Hastings gentleman:

        Because you’re paranoid?

    • 194
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      He’s rotting from the inside, just like his wretched party.

    • 280
      Budgie says:

      Not the budget, but the video of Gordon McCreep with his solution to MPs’ fraud was weird – rictus grins at completely arbitrary points in his dissembling. Is he human or a faulty replicant?

      • 314
        "For the restless, not the true believers, this one's for you.." says:

        So…. Voodooo works then?

  36. 78
    Harvey Hawley Crippen MD., says:

    It is my cynical opinion that

    Damian McBride is midbrain maced

    due to prolonged exposure to the rantings of a nutty Prime Minister.

  37. 82
    DominicJ says:

    I have the blogs section bookmarked, read into that what you may

    Hmm, I need a newspaper to read

  38. 86
    Mike Rouse says:

    I wonder how many other sources were revealed along the way before they did it to Guido who was too big?

  39. 91
    Icarus says:

    Telegraph circulation in the UK is 678,753 plus 110,000 “multiple copies” . Multiple copies are those given away on planes, hotels etc.

    The figure includes 322,580 subscriptions at discounted prices.

  40. 92
    John Henry says:

    FWIW I cancelled my derit debit for their subscription scheme this afternoon because of the way they handled Smeargate. Probably just the final straw, but it really wound me up.

    • 99
      DT Editor says:

      Wise choice, sir. We don’t want right-minded people buying our comic.

    • 106
      Brownturn says:

      I cancelled my Telegraph delivery last year – got sick of their daily ‘exclusive’ interviews with Brown and Labour ministers

      Was putting me off my breakfast

  41. 93

    I think Paul is a sterling chap, but he is being very naive here to imagine that any National Newspaper would do the decent thing and honour an NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement).

    As a Journalist who got his first start in Newspapers in 1955, I can assure you that, if they think they can get away with it, without a law suit they will be as dishonorable as it takes. If they think there will be a court case, then they will way out the cost of a possible fine against the number of newspapers they will sell if they run with the story. And might then stil publish and be damned.

    Ampers

  42. 96
    Dick the Prick says:

    Nice article in Big Issue GF. Yeah, prety similar situation myself but Scumberside had changed to a University by my time. Fun & games, fun & games.

  43. 100
    Adrian Prole says:

    I see that bloody awful woman Mary Riddell is still there. Until she has gone, I will find difficulty in regaining any faith in the Labourgraph. It is still delivered to my house because we subscribed to it with the coupons. It is a far cry from what it was 37yrs ago when I started reading it.

  44. 101
    Andrew Porter, Gordon Brown Reporter says:

    Not me!

    I’m as blue-rinse as they come!

  45. 102
    Alex says:

    Hard luck Guido, but my guess is that the NDA has clauses about (i) information already in or passing into the public domain and (ii) information supplied to them from other sources that has not come directly or indirectly from you.

    In which case I would hazerd a guess that their lawyers would have told the editors that they had to get the same information from McBride as you showed to them so that they were covered.

    It would be interesting to know what the DT actually has in its files next to your NDA.

    You want an NDA that really hurts next time? Give me a bell.

    • 261
      Moley says:

      Guido;
      Why don’t you use the provisions of the Data Protection Act to get a copy of your “file” from the DT.?
      I am sure that the Data commissioner would help you to get hold of it so that you could “correct any erroneous personal information”.

  46. 103
    shergar says:

    A special circle in hell reserved for hypocritical champagne socialists like Maguire. Telling truth to power? He’s been gagging on power’s knob since it slithered into No.10.

  47. 109
    Anonymous says:

    What a sad old thing the DT has become.A matter of time me thinks!The Ch. Is. people can’t all be wrong can they?

  48. 112
    Anonymous says:

    Good luck indeed to Iain Martin.

  49. 117
    U Turn if you want too says:

    Is that the sound of screeching tyres??

    50p tax on rich may be temporary, Labour ministers hint

    Mandelson spinning furiously, as Brown executes a handbrake turn, and darling flees the country for an important visit to Washington [the IMF?]

    Senior ministers have hinted that the 50p top rate of income may only be temporary as they fend off accusations of the death of New Labour.

    Gordon Brown and senior members of his Cabinet moved to resuscitate the New Labour legacy today by insisting the Budget announcement of a 50p top rate of tax – the highest level for 30 years – was not a political or ideological gesture.

    “It’s most certainly not the end of New Labour. We are not a high tax party. We don’t tax for its own sake,” the Business Secretary said.

    • 128
      Margy says:

      Do you think Brown & Darling did the 50% taxt without telling the Dame? I mean it seems a little crazy to suddenly say “Oh it’s not for ever it’s only temporary”.

      Are they that stupid that they didn’t realise their huge vote losing gaff yesterday (as if they needed one!). They really are thick numpties!

      If they hadn’t been controlling the press there’s no way they would still be in power.

    • 134
      “Warning! Warning! This vehicle is reversing!" says:

      Now top story on the Times website Labour’s 50p tax on rich may be temporary

      Note they’ve now dropped the ‘..Labour ministers hint” bit

      Loving the photo of Brown – he looks like some fucked up fat, moody alien, squeezed into a small box

      • 185
        fucked up, fat, moody alien squeezed into a small box says:

        I cannot breathe in here, but it is comfortable, no angry voices any more, am I still prime minister?

    • 210
      Squeaking pips says:

      NuLab knows it won’t have to prove its claim (that it’s temporary). All it has to do is to convince the electorate that it is sincere.

      Unfortunately for NuLab, the party backers are unlikely to fall for this con.

      • 303
        Dr Nuts says:

        You mean they still have backers? I thought they had debts to the eye-balls.

        I mean – if they can’t manage Party finances – what’s the point expecting them to get national finances sorted.

        The only thing that Labour is successful at – is racking up debts.
        They’ve depleted our pensions. They’ve cost our gold reserves. They’ve wasted our tax-returns. They’ve raised every tax possible except income tax upto this budget, 18.5% promised for VAT with the exclusion list reduced. He’s increased off-book debt with PFI’s. He kept the house-price market booming, although by 2004 the market was already unsustainable, teachers, police, lecturers, and so on (social infrastructure workers) etc couldn’t afford homes!! He raised the cost of petrol destroying the transport industry and penalising commuters to the point that working was unaffordable for the lower paid staff. He didn’t just deregulate the City, he stopped any effective policing of the city altogether. He sought to destroy the Farming community (for the first time since WW2 we’ve been in negative equity with food – we can’t feed ourselves independently due to Labour operations. He obliterated what was left of our manufacturing base – thinking being that Tesco’s and Sainsbury’s are great employers – ignoring that manufacturing are wealth creation. That was left to the city. Banks were deregulated (again!), the costs of ‘bank charges’ soared after Labour came to power, credit cards and store cards proliferated.

        The Labour message – bust was not going to happen – spend, spend, spend.
        Even now – it’s spend, spend, spend. 1 m new jobs – where? In the public sector. The car scrappage – £1000 from the public sector … still prolific spending, what’s being spent – plus more….

        IMF anyone? Browns organised a promise of $1tn from the other 18 G20 countries, because he knew we would need it. That’s Brown’s ambition!

  50. 118
    Pienomics says:

    Just another demonstration of the web of deceit and influence which has mushroomed under this government of third rate intellects bound together in Bliars Big Tent by the pathetic “spinnings” of Whelan, Mcbride,Campbell, Moore (remember her). This government is truly wretched. Bring on an election. Bye bye Gordy, Mandy, Ally C, Ally D, Harry H, Hazel B, Coopers B………..

  51. 121
    Scooby Doo says:

    What a shame, Iain Martin is on the ball. What the hell are the Telegraph doing alienating their readership. It is insane!! They’ve just lost one of their best. When will someone fire Janet Daley and Marry Riddell?

    • 174
      Roger M Hall says:

      Why is it that Ms Doolally is at least 6 months behind the rest of the world ? And as for Mary Twaddle ….. another brain-dead ZaNubot.

    • 331
      Clartmonkey says:

      I’ll willingly fire Daley, but I’m buggered if I’m going to marry Riddell.

  52. 122
    Paper-boy says:

    I’m not one to judge others by their bookmarks. The blogs section is like watching a car crash. They are actually paying people to turn that shite out, day after day? If they dumped 90% of that drivel it wouldn’t be enough. I sometimes leave a comment out of sympathy for the poor fucks.

    Comments (0)

  53. 123
    Anonymous says:

    BBC reporting that Labour will be introducing the biggest cuts in spending since the mid 1970′s, even bigger than those Thatcher made.

    • 284
      Budgie says:

      Actually:-
      Thatcher – 2 percent INCREASE
      ZaNu – 0.7 percent increase

    • 304
      Dr Nuts says:

      That’s bullshit – they’ve just increased spending with the ‘Car Scrappage’.

      Have they scrapped ID cards?

      NO – because they have every intention of spending more and going to the IMF to continue the spending spree.

  54. 125
    Dame Celia Molestrangler says:

    Come on Guido, let’s get back to razzing the government, much more fun.

  55. 129
    man in the street says:

    I started to by The Times as a result of this.

  56. 132
    SwissBob says:

    For those interested, Stanislav, a young polish plumber has the following to say about the Daily Bizarrograph (see righthand sidebar, scoll down a bit, title is ‘Courtesy of Stanislav’s Advertising agency’) Stanislav’s Daily Bizarrograph Ad

  57. 135
    What me? Impartial? Nick Robinson says:

    Iain’s merely doing what the readers are doing

  58. 139
    caesars wife says:

    Its all bit surreal , by 2011 we will owe 79% of what this country was worth when it was in growth ,

    when do we get to see what new senior press spad puts out ???

    as for telegraph , they have done some starnge headlines to deflect tory points , but they do allow some right thinking voices . but not happy if they publish anyone as source to alert the stasi

    re guilts article , its not clever what alistair is doing is it ??? i dont quite understand the mechanism , have posted hoping for some answers

  59. 141
    Heads on poles says:

    I used to buy the Telegraph for the Matt cartoon and James May’s motoring column.
    I’ll miss them.

  60. 142
    Heads on poles says:

    Slightly OT but AljaBeeba have forgotten that there was a cock-up of a budget yesterday with the story of ‘too many seagulls in urban areas’ – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8014975.stm

    Peston took a bit of a kicking on his blog today :)

  61. 147
    Billy le Bob says:

    A right bunch of Barclay Banks…….

  62. 152
    Anonymous says:

    Clearly there’s a history attached to that ‘disclosure email’ but it does not stand a chance in court. Both parties must sign and counter-sign a proper ‘non-disclosure agreement’. They saw you coming. Typical of the newpaper industry.

  63. 155
    Martin Day says:

    A perfect Film Name for the Labour Government plus Nigel Griffiths!!!!!! :lol:

    http://delivernothinglabourparty.blogspot.com/2009/04/labour-inglorious-bastards.html

  64. 158
    Trough and Drop says:

    It’s a lot of money to pay for a crossword.

  65. 160
    Koba says:

    The Blogging business gets a bit personal, doesn’t it.

  66. 170
    Gordon's new SpAd says:

    Great Beeb headline

    LATEST:

    International donors pledge £172 to boost security in Somalia

    I’ll do my bit for world poverty, I’ll double it!

  67. 171
    moooo moooo says:

    The order of comments appearing at the moment (no indentation) is: 157, 159, 51, 71, 57, 64, 145. Excuse me, no queue jumping!

    • 177
      moooo moooo says:

      Update: I appear to have queue jumped

    • 233
      Honk says:

      When queue jumping becomes as rife as this, you know liebour has won.

      Decent standards are what made this country great, once.

      Alas , since the Reds took over we’ve all been doomed, doooooomed I tell you.

  68. 176
    A Hastings, Captain (retired) says:

    Does anyone actually read Ignominicon Junk ?
    I suspect it contains secret coded messages somewhere in the middle.

    • 187
      Dave Figgley says:

      Ha ha, mate. Igonnakum Jerk? My cat accidentally read of one of his monoliths once. One time too many, though. Poor Finkter had a major feline seizure and ended up four legs in the air. Now I just use him as a door-stop. Ta for that Jerk, son.

  69. 180
    rusty bullet hole says:

    I have been a telegraph reader for thirty years but I have just about had enough of them. The editorial staff are a bunch of twits. They can’t decide what they are. Well I know what I am and if Iain “Pincher” Martin leaves then I will desert them. The crossword is shit’e anyway

    • 198
      Adrian Prole says:

      I can see the Labourgraph following the Gaurniad to Berliner format – then continue after them – down the lavatory.

    • 238
      Durotriges says:

      I started to get uneasy when they got their eco-environmentalist correspondent who started spouting green shit. After 40 years I’ve had enough. Old fashioned I know but I do like a daily paper. What should I get?

  70. 182
    JD says:

    I have stopped reading the Telegraph. JD.

  71. 183
    Col Heywood Jablowme says:

    That Balls fella has got a face like the wrong end of a Gloucester Old Spot. Feel sorry for his lady wife, having to wake up every morning next to a pig’s arse.

    • 196
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      Hey, steady on…unfair to pigs!!

      • 204
        Adrian Prole says:

        If you saw Mrs Balls (Yvette Cooper) on CH4 last night, with Jon Snow allowing her full rein, you wouldn’t feel at all sorry for her. She could teach Dolly Draper a thing or two when it comes to interupting somebody else. (Okay, it was Ken Clarke, but he didn’t display rudeness to her.) The woman was almost hysterical in her attempt to defend ZaNuLabour. She displayed the attributes of a woman in panic (probably worried with regards to continuing her fiddled expenses).

    • 234
      Balls today but no Balls tomorrow says:

      Lady wife!

      Effete If ette

      That is no Lady sir….

  72. 190
    It all started in America you bastards! says:

    The Telegraph has become a joke. In fat, ALL the mainstream press has been shown up by bloggers.

    Too many fat idle journalists cosying up to even fatter corrupt grubby politicians.

  73. 191
    Gordon "The Kiddy fiddler" Brown says:

    Yesterday some socialist scumbag calling himself soak the rich was whining about “little Englanders”. Well here’s a film clip made by “little Deutchlanders” about Brussels greed.
    Watch the MEPs turning up at 7:00 am on a Friday to sign for their daily expenses. Then watch them drag their suitcases to the lift to run off home for the weekend.
    Watch the Irish MEP get all ‘legal and threatening’
    Watch the German MEP accuse the camera team of ‘impertinence’

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/bruno_waterfield/blog/2009/04/23/just_how_dishonest_are_meps

    Streets ahead of Mark Mardell

    • 201
      DT Editor says:

      Fuck me, mate. I thought it was a spoof until near the end. Absolute fucking rotters.

    • 267
      I Squiggle says:

      Well, one thing the ‘graph gets right – not to get the story, but at least point us to it. I urge everyone to watch the video thingy – why do we have to rely on the Germans to see this, where are our festering journos? Highly illuminating..

    • 329

      Extraordinary – if this is right, why all the face hiding, anger and Brave Sir Robin-style running away?

  74. 197
    Boombastic says:

    They really have turned into the gutter press. If you can’t trust a journo not to reveal you as a source they are all doomed. Wide boys in the pocket of NuLab.

  75. 199
    Anonymous says:

    I’m sorry, but the idea that the Telegraph is Labour-leaning is ridiculous. Clearly they don’t like Guido (and probably feel threatened by him) but that does not mean they support Brown. Read the telegraph and you’ll see its like an ode to upper-middle class conservative doctrine.

    • 214
      If It's Not On The BBC It Must Be True says:

      Good grief, after what you’ve just said I’ll have to revise my opinion of Mary Riddell.

      • 230
        Dave Figgley says:

        Ha ha. Riddle cracks me up, son. Seriously away with the fairies. Still, she attracts shitloads of derision from the staffers and that’s always worth a gander.

    • 240
      Horsey says:

      Presumably you’re reading the Racing pages.

  76. 202
    Anonymous says:

    The idea that the Telegraph is Labour-leaning is ridiculous. Clearly they don’t like Guido (and probably feel threatened by him) but that does not mean they support Brown. Have you read the Telegraph lately – its an ode to upper-middle class conservative doctrine.

    • 216
      If It's Not On The BBC It Must Be True says:

      Just to emphasise the point
      Good grief, after what you’ve just said I’ll have to revise my opinion of Mary Riddell.

    • 220
      Adrian Prole says:

      I buy and read the Telegraph 7 days a week. People such as Simon Heffer are as you describe, but these people are commentators on their own opinion. Please do not confuse them with lobby journos and news editors who filter what they want you to learn and omit the bits that are distasteful to them.

    • 291
      Budgie says:

      What’s confusing everyone is that Camoron is a Bliar puppet, so when the Labourgraph supports the Camerhoons it looks like it is supporting Liebore.

  77. 203
    Dame Sybil Crumb says:

    Actually, the Telegraph is ok…sure they balled up the McBride story…I guess in the best (low) standards of journalism, but pro-nulab/oldlab/anylab they are not.
    They even give prominence to that right wing nutter Simon Heffer, the Ted Heath lookalike….I wonder what his blood pressure looks like?

    • 215
      DT Editor says:

      Actually, Simon is a lovely chap; modest, quiet as a mouse and a model employee. He has a tendency to be painfully cynical at times and occasionally suffers the odd bout of verbal diarrheoa, as do all journalists, but, on the whole, he is a pleasure to work with. Right wing? Mr. Heffer is of no political persuasion and certainly doesn’t believe anything he writes. Blood pressure 130 over 80; not bad for a man of his age. Sometimes appears a bit purple but when we remind him to loosen his neck-tie the colour soon returns to, or rather fades from, his face.

  78. 205
    StrongholdBarricades says:

    I see Nick is so happy with his new interviewing style that he’s put his interview of the chancellor on his blog

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/04/age_of_austerit.html#comments

    Even Iain Dale is saying he went for the jugular, certainly the first time I’ve heard him ask for the “truth”

    • 272
      Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

      Hedging his bets now. I thought poor old Darling was going to sob.
      Actually I’d like to feel a tad sorry for Darling, he obviously hasn’t the foggiest what he’s doing. But he must be a tool to have accepted the job, it being obvious that disaster loomed.

  79. 206
    Sunonmars says:

    Oh Brown really is taking the piss now, doing this when the public is pissed off with expenses. Infuriating.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1172974/Good-times-ARE-just-round-corner-Budget-doubles-ministers-wine-dine-party.html

    The budget for ministers’ parties has been quietly increased by 50 per cent – and almost £140,000 spent on an exclusive wine cellar.

    In the week when the Chancellor promised a Whitehall efficiency drive, official figures suggest Government hospitality is unaffected by the recession.

    The unit set up to organise wining and dining for ministers and senior civil servants has had its budget increased by 52 per cent from £525,000 to £800,000 for this financial year.

    The Government Hospitality Unit, based in the Foreign Office, delivers ‘official hospitality for all government ministers and Permanent Secretary-level officials’.

    Last year it delivered 208 functions at an average cost of £2,227 per event. Since 1997, it has cost £7.1 million to run.

  80. 209
    Odds Bodkins says:

    The future of the dead tree press looks decidedly bleak. It will almost certainly lose out as the internet takes hold.

    Warren Buffett, the greatest investor in the history of mankind (hyperbole intentional) has some very pertinent comments to make on this matter:

    http://blog.blawg.com/archive/2007/03/05/Warren-Buffett-Newspapers-the-Internet-and-Eyeballs.aspx

    http://www.hypergene.net/blog/weblog.php?id=P338

    “Now, however, almost all newspaper owners realize that they are constantly losing ground in the battle for eyeballs. Simply put, if cable and satellite broadcasting, as well as the internet, had come along first, newspapers as we know them probably would never have existed.”

    It has not gone unnoticed that as the blogosphere gains in popularity, the said dinosaurs (newspapers and TV) have become more and more left wing. Just an observation.

  81. 211
    Odds Bodkins says:

    Can anyone tell me why my prev. comment seems to have been singled out for moderation. Just curious.

  82. 217
    Fausty says:

    The Telegraph might well be concerned by the loss of readers and hence, loss of advertising revenue, but if it has a political agenda (‘paid for’ via tax breaks), then it might suffer another loss …

    If it has lost the confidence of its traditional middle-class readership, then it has lost the ability to influence the middle class readership. Therefore, it is of no use to advertisers (who dropped out due to readers’ confidence loss) and the government (who will drop out if the middle class desert).

    It’s in a bit of a pickle, no?

  83. 218
    eagerbeaver says:

    Telegraph’s behaviour over Smeargate was disgraceful but since the budget the cavalry have taken charge.

    Other than a ridiculous puff piece by Mary Riddell (can a woman be a hoon??) there have been wonderfully scathing articles by Hefferlump, Martin and Halligan crowned off tonight by a masterpiece from Jeff Randall. Even been some tremendous articles from the second string.

    Coffee House has been magnificent as well – stream of article’s from Fraser Nelson et al pointing out that not only does the emperor have no clothes he’s got his eye’s shut, his fingers in his ears and a trickle of blood from his arse.

    Shills and lackeys like Toilets, Pollytwaddle and Mrs Marr have been drowned out by the more serious commentators.

    Labour are well and truly fucked

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      The queens spokesperson for justifiable swearing says:

      For your information a female k unt is known as a k untess.

  84. 219
    Where is Stan says:

    what’s happened to stan, I don’t mind being ass raoed by the Govt, I don’t mind ending up in some money spinning war for the Elites or in their Gas chambers but the though that stan is no more is too much…..

    Is it really then end of life as we know it, he should Join up with the Daily Mash. that would sell as Good as Viz down the Newsagents.

    http://www.skymadeupnewsandfilth.com/2009/04/stanislavplumbcheap4u-rip.html

  85. 222
    bill martin says:

    The Telegraph one of the few examples of rats joining a sinking ship?

  86. 225
    Sunray says:

    ITV trailed a new programme tonight. It’s about fat people who are trying to lose weight and it is called `The Big Loser’. The presenter is Kate Garraway, now I ask you, what does she know about big losers?

  87. 227
    Anonymous says:

    Labour budget 2009-THE video!!

    http://subrosa-blonde.blogspot.com/

  88. 236
    billy says:

    Politicalbetting.com has a new YouGov poll out

  89. 242
    Anonymous says:

    PB

    CON 45(+4) LAB 27(-7) LD 18(+2)

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  91. 245
    Anonymous says:

    I had a phone call from a friend to say there was an opinion poll for Scotland this evening – good news for the SNP grim for Labour. I see the Herald have mentioned it.

    http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/news/display.var.2503940.0.Pressure_piles_on_Labour_as_the_SNP_power_ahead_in_the_polls.php

  92. 246
    CuttingEdge says:

    NuLabour getting caned on QT

  93. 247
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    McMental and his circus of freaks should be in The Daily Sport
    Its already full of tits and c*nts so a few more should be most welcome.

  94. 250

    Can we have Prof David Starkey for president please? Failing that, can someone line up a column of tanks and put that fine feller sitting on the first, heading towards Whitehall?

  95. 251
    pp says:

    ot: question time

    John Denham may be the most unhappy person in the country right now…

    ha ha ha ha ha!

  96. 253
    pp says:

    ot: Questiontime

    CLAIRE FOX – apparantly a marxist nutter…

    But even she says” if you can’t trust MPs to set their pay/conditions then you can’t trust anyone to do it.”

  97. 255
    pp says:

    Guido…

    Why not have a regular blog root for QT and This Week…

    A peg for the usual suspects to hang their prejudices on…

  98. 260
    So17 says:

    I used to read the Daily Mail until it became the self appointed champion of Stephen Lawrence.
    No lefty is going to be fooled by this false handwringing and the core readership get pissed off as more often than not it’s a Honky thats the victim and barely gets a footnote in the local rag.

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      DT Editor says:

      Yeah, hysterical, PC-obsessed, wimminizating, health-scare freakin, hypocrites. The Mail are just the same.

  99. 262
    moooo moooo says:

    Kate Garraway has morning sicknness apparently. Look the other way when you wakie up FFS!

  100. 264
    mad nad says:

    Iain Martin had no future once the Telebore signed Ben Brogan. Guess Martin’s gone to work for his only contact – Liam Fox.
    Assume the equally useless Andrew Pierce will be the next to go

  101. 270
    Anonymous says:

    Whenever I hear so called socialists bleating on about increased taxes I ask them How much they propose THEIR tax rate should be increased. This normally puts their gas at a peep as they normally only propose increases to OTHERS income. However some do give a figure along the lines of ” Well I wouldnt mind paying an extra 1 p in the pound if it meant getting a better NHS or education system or whatever. Great I reply then why dont you take out a direct debit to pay this amount on a voluntary basis to fund some hospital or school initiative and miss out the middle man completely !

    They dont tend to do this though, wonder why !

  102. 271
    The human dalek says:

    I am,,,,the Muppet Eagle……..I am your future….

  103. 274
    Anonymous says:

    ITN news at Ten told the viewers a truer picture of how bad the economy really in and I mean BAD !

  104. 277
    big softie says:

    Keep buying the DT……can’t think why……….guess it’s habit and the easy crossword I struggle with.

    After recent revelations with no response from the DT think I may knock it on the head and save myself 90p a day.

    onwards and upwards

  105. 278
    The Grim Reaper says:

    So Guido, if you come across a scoop like this again, which newspaper are you going to share your story with?

    Or are you just gonna go it alone?

  106. 279
    Anonymous says:

    Did anyone notice how the budget is going to effect the “Nexis” over the next financial year ?

  107. 285
    Anonymous says:

    Has Dolly Draper been sacked from Labourlist? There seem to be a series of honest and interesting articles appearing there.

  108. 287
    Born mouth says:

    Jesus, Mohammed, fucksake!-20 years to get back to square one-wankers. Piano wire is too good for’em. Nuff said.

  109. 288
    Minekiller says:

    Can someone please explain to me – why oh why the English are so ball-less and spineless to put up with this unbelievably shit government?

    It is fait accompli, that 30% of the electorate (eligible to vote) will vote Labour. In that wonderfully oxymoronic sense of course because Labour no longer represent workers, just client state tit-suckers and (as they say in Holland) ‘immos’.

    So the Tories (if they ever decide to grow a pair), need to realise that they are working with material that is 70/30. They’ve lost the 30, as thye are Labour created non-productive idle windowlickers – who will vote for them no matter what. So, Tories, no need to hug hoodies or appeal to the lefties.

    Will they? Umm…no…they are BluLabour and still want the client vote. We are all fucked, because unless we do something radical, the next election may return the Toried, but they are infested with Statism and Political Correctness as Nu/Labour.

  110. 290
    StrongholdBarricades says:

    and Frank Field too

    http://franklyspeakingblog.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/the-budget-a-view-from-the-benches/

    Sounds like a wrong word in the wrong ear might just lead to a Gilts strike, a run on the pound…could George Soros have a successor?

    This is brinksmanship from Brown and darling,

    …and to throw in for good measure we’ll make sure those johnnies in the banks that deal with these Gilts get to pay 61.5% tax on those large incomes

    Funny how the banks could call time on the government, you couldn’t make it up

  111. 296

    Very good info, thanks for the post.

  112. 299

    Not that all the papers aren’t at it, but the Telegraph has become – even more – shamelessly pro-Tory / anti-Labour in the past few months. Everyone editorialises, but to be taken as a serious news outlet, surely there has to be a degree of objectivity and decent journalism – a sentiment apparently lost when it comes to reporting the above. Good work Guido.

  113. 300
    spandangler says:

    off topic, but a much watch vid, the future uk, the enemy within?
    http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=1422

  114. 309
    Clartmonkey says:

    On a related subject – my posts stopped appearing altogether on the Telegraph Comment columns some months ago. As I post from China I wondered if it was some kind of firewall issue.

    I had an exchange of emails with the charming Fiona Macdonald, Editorial PR Manager of the Telegraph Media Group, who assured me that this must be a simple technical issue which would be sorted out in a week or so.

    It never was, but I was somewhat taken aback to read a large number of comments on various Telegraph blog columns, following smeargate, from other individuals saying their comments were no longer appearing either. AS many of them probably post here too perhaps they could post their monickers here and I can take the matter up again with Ms Mac…

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    "For the restless, not the true believers, this one's for you.." says:

    Yes! Threading does seem screwed!!!

  116. 322
    anonymous says:

    It appears that at last the electorate have rumbled Brown’s (Darling is merely the”front man” to take the hit when it all unravels)usual “smoke & mirrors” budget tricks – they’ve been conned too many times in the past and even the Telegraph must realise by now the games nearly up for Labour although Keven Maguire still thinks the budget’s a vote winner !!!!!!!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/budget/5209960/David-Cameron-gets-Budget-bounce.html

  117. 323
    Comment on PB.Com says:

    27th February 2032.

    That is when ITN says we will have taken national debt back to acceptable levels.
    Deathly for Labour.

    by Marquee Mark April 23rd, 2009 at 9:58 pm

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    Comment on PB.Com says:

    27th February 2032.

    That is when ITN says we will have taken national debt back to acceptable levels.

    Deathly for Labour.

    by Marquee Mark April 23rd, 2009 at 9:58 pm

  119. 326
    wolvreen says:

    I am new here, just read about the ‘facist’ spat between Nicky Campbell and Guido on radio 5 live, 31 March.
    Does anyone have a link, BBC links have expired?
    Sorry if this is the wrong place.

  120. 332
    AndyinBrum says:

    if it hadnt been for the DT’s attack, yould never have got me as a reader/follower/groupy.

    Now whether thats a good/bad thing is up for debate :)

  121. 335

    It is all going to bits for Brown…

  122. 336
    Jimmy says:

    “Iain Martin has not responded to Guido’s emailed request for comment. So read into that what you will.”

    You’re not as important as you think you are?



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