June 18th, 2014

WATCH: Dave Goes Down Fighting on Juncker

BB: “How is his campaign going to stop Mr Juncker?”


DC: “It’s a simple issue of principle, much more connected to the principle than the name. The principle is this –  and I think it will be shared on every side of the House – that the members of the European Council, the elected Prime Ministers and the elected Presidents, under the treaties, we should choose who runs the European Commission. And I don’t mind how many people on the European Council disagree with me, I will fight this right to the very end. And what I would say to my colleagues on the European Council, many of whom have expressed interesting views about both this principle and this person, if you want reform in Europe you’ve got to stand up for it, if you want change in Europe you’ve got to vote for it. That is the message I will take, and that is the right message for our country.”

Warning other EU leaders to do in public what they are saying about Juncker in private…


  1. 1
    non taxable pikey says:

    Another cast iron guarantee in the offing?

  2. 2
    Tony Blair says:

    Tora! Tora! Tora!

  3. 3
    tigerowl says:

    We have just voted in the European elections for people to make such decisions. Do we not trust those we have just elected to do so?
    If those that we have elected pick this Junker then that is democracy working. What is it about democracy some of us Brits do not understand?

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    Green and Howards musketman says:

    Stick it up yer Junkers.

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    Cameron's P45 says:

    “That is the message I will take, and that is the right message for our country.”

    Is the mong incapable of understanding, we don’t want ‘messages’, we want results.

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    Round the Bend says:

    If Junckers is selected that will send the clearest message, that the EU is hell bent on full Federalisation.

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    The British media are cunts says:

    This is just fucing nonsense. The krauts run the EU, they decide who gets what jobs. No one tkakes a shit in the EU without Von Merkel’s say so.

    Time to pack our bags and leave. If the krauts and froggies spit their dummies out then tough shit, we just stop them flogging their shite cars here in the UK, the boss of BMW or VW won’t be very impressed with Merkel if that happens.

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    Twampersand mk II says:

    He has not even been elected PM himself, just like his mental predecessor.

    Just a stich-up, just like the next one will be.

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    anon says:

    That’s the problem with all career politicians, they make a speech and think that it counts as doing something.

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    Twampersand mk II says:

    You suspect there is even the slightest possibility it is not?

  12. 12
    David Cameron PM says:

    I fought the EU and the EU won…

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    Never give a sucker an even break says:

    It’s an interesting situation. Junker is the German’s (apparent) man. The French have expressed no opinion, in public. Bumsex nails his balls to ….who? The provocateurs suggest Strauss-Kahn’s bird. There is Master Kinnock’s bride leering from the wings.
    Yet, this is being advanced as the Euro-Parliament “picking” its candidate. This is the body that could go anti-EU at the next Election. No. It would never let democracy even have a look in.

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    Koba says:

    The Lisbon treaty effectively abolished the nation states, didn’t anybody read it before our elected PM signed it?

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    Cameron's P45 says:


    This was one of Blair’s biggest faults, which Heir to Blair seems to have inherited.

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    Johnny says says:

    Cameron said: “… that the members of the European Council, the elected Prime Ministers and the elected Presidents, under the treaties, we should choose who runs the European Commission.”

    The Lisbon treaty allows the European Council to *nominate* a candidate. It is then up to the European Parliament to vote for or against that candidate.

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    The United Kingdom says:

    “… if you want reform in Europe you’ve got to stand up for it, if you want change in Europe you’ve got to vote for it.”

    Look, you fat chinless tube, we want out of it.

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    Jeffrey Bernard says:

    I am not sure why Ben Bradshaw was laughing: what is remotely funny about the prospect of Juncker getting the job?

  20. 20
    Tony Blair says:

    Let’s have more wars! I love war! More money for me and Slotgob.

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    Political reality: The Citizens voted for Juncker albeit with a slim lead over Schulz – who has himself endorsed Juncker and the vote – and Europe is going to Federalize one way or another.

    It would be much wiser for the member States to concentrate on transitioning power to the People whilst power transitions to the EP and demos is established in the office of European President.

    The pan-Europa problem, which Juncker is part of, needs to be dealt with carefully. Better for a United States of Europe of Union rather than Unity – the latter is fundamentally unstable and will lead to war.

    Member States should push hard for a 10th Amendment style clause in the Constitution, which is yet to be written: Lisbon needs to be binned.

    UK will need to secede sooner rather than later. The UK is not ready or suitable for Federalization – as are several other notable member States (!taly…) and has been marginalized in such a way that it is now part of the problem within Europe.

    Discouraging Eastern and Central Europe from jumping back to Russ!a would be advantageous.

    Vote UKIP :-D

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    Johnnie Foreigner says:

    And why does Cameron assume that other EU leaders want reform anyway?

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    Bullshit says:

    The disconnect between what or who a person votes for in an EU election and who they actually get to represent them is where the EU version of democracy is a joke.
    A deliberately designed joke at that.
    I bet barely 10% of the EU parliament actually want this bloke as president.

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    Mad Bad Gordo McDoom says:

    I cast my eye over it.

  25. 25
    Wat wen wong woy says:

    Britain’s oh so gallant loser !

  26. 26
    T.Bl£ir says:

    Look, what is important, is.

  27. 27
    BAE says:

    We agree

  28. 28
    J.M.Barroso says:

    We are merely progressing the socialist cause of europa, get over it english

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    Who is that pikey woman in the purple top sitting behind Dave ? She looks like she needs a good seeing to, might cheer her up

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    Anonymous says:

    ‘fought’ is putting it rather strongly.
    Cammy is a waste of space.

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    Ben D Bradshaw says:

    It’s because I is a Cvnt

  32. 32
    Labour are the nasty party says:

    It was not David Cameron who signed it , It was Gordon Brown .

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    David 'Dave' Camoron, the Heir to Blair says:

    So do I, Tone. I’m just softening the British people up today:


    …’cos, y’know, people think I’m, y’know, a pretty straight kinda guy.

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    Fishy says:

    He’s sneering because he knows that Labour have handed over our country to the EU and despite the will of the people, we will have a 1000 year Socialist Reich.

  35. 35
    Margaret says:

    Hey, that’s my line!

  36. 36
    Sue Denim says:

    You should have used the one that works.

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    Matteo Renzi says:

    I just want to cut a deal for you rich states…and UK taxpayers (I love you!) to go easy on us….then I’ll support any ass with a nomination badge on it…how about that delicious VP, Cat-a-rina Ash-ton? Mmmm jig-a-jig

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    The two Muppets says:

    Gordon Brown was never elected Prime Minister by the British people .

  39. 39
    Fishy says:

    You might laugh, you might sneer but in future years, be very careful when you use public transport, go to your local shopping centres, go to the pub or cinema.

    There is a gathering storm.

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    Enoch's ghost says:

    Arm both sides and sell the winners body bags.

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    Winston says:

    Cameron will fight to the end, will he? That will be May 2015, when he is no longer PM. Tories on 29% and UKIP on 15%. Even if there is an improvement, Cameron will not reach the dizzy heights of 35% achieved in 2010. Unless, he wants a LibLabCon coalition? Cameron is a goner and the EU leaders know it. Not sure, why Guido believes differently.

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    voter says:

    “We have just voted in the European elections for people ”

    No, we voted for parties, and the parties chose the candidates in order on the list.

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    Taxfodder says:

    Probably less than 10% in the UK want or need any MP in Parliament as they are a total waste of space, time and money.

    The country bumbles along its own sweet way despite them.

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    Enoch's ghost says:

    Please Guido, take out the ‘fighting’ and the title will then be accurate.

  45. 45
    Slotgob says:

    Oooh Tone, I lurve it when you talk dirty.

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    Enoch's ghost says:

    It was his Jap eye.

  47. 47
    Winston says:

    The State has passed legislation which forces suspected football hooligans (some have no convictions) to hand over their passports on demand. 1,500 of such people were forced to hand their passports to the police for the duration of the World Cup in case they might throw a chair in a town square. Yet, the State cannot and will not do anything to prevent thousands of British Islamists from travelling abroad to kill, rape and torture and then return to our island.

    Keep voting LibLabCon for more madness.

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    Willy Whitelaw says:

    Bomb the bastards!

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    Winston says:

    The State has passed legislation which forces suspected football hooligans (some have no convictions) to hand over their passports on demand. 1,500 of such people were forced to hand their passports to the police for the duration of the World Cup in case they might throw a chair in a town square. Yet, the State cannot and will not do anything to prevent thousands of British Islamists from travelling abroad to commit mass murder and then return to our island.

    Keep voting LibLabCon for more madness.

  50. 50
    Toxic Labour for Spongers, Parasites, Criminals, Layabouts & other Wasters says:

    The eu monstrosity needs to be destroyed.

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    tigerowl says:

    This about sums up the level of debate in the UK. No wonder we are seen as the backside of Europe.
    “Who is that pikey woman in the purple top sitting behind Dave ? She looks like she needs a good seeing to, might cheer her up”
    Get a life.

  52. 52

    anyone but Tony Blair!

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    tigerowl says:

    ” … thousands of British Islamists from travelling abroad to commit mass murder and then return to our island.”
    About four hundred in total. Nothing to stop then being arrested on return.
    Labour put laws in place to hold people without charge to see if that person had or could be a danger to the UK.

  54. 54
    Round the Bend says:

    It’s because he knows what it is like to be shafted.

  55. 55
    tigerowl says:

    This is a great contribution to the debate eh?

  56. 56

    The Prime Mentalist and the Treaty of Lisbon:

    Vote UKIP :-D

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    I Heart Frownie Justine says:

    A couple of years ago the Mail ran this story – which did come across as a bit of a lonely hearts ad


  58. 58
    Bent Badshow says:

    Aren’t I clever ???

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    On the plus side says:

    If they go to Syria they might get blown to bits.

  60. 60
    tigerowl says:

    But you did vote UKIP and this is the result. Party against the EU who do not turn up at debates leaves the rest of the EU to decide what happens.
    Great voting folks.

  61. 61
    Bloomers in rain-soaked Bongo Bongo Land says:

    Don’t be daft.

  62. 62
    A Brazilian Rent Boy says:

    You not bad looking either.

  63. 63
    Vlad the Loudhailer says:

    McMoron read the Lisbon Treaty. That’s why he slithered on his belly, through the back door after dark to sign away our rights.
    He knew exactly what he was doing.

  64. 64
    Just David says:

    I shall sqweam and sqweam until I’m sick.

  65. 65
    Owen Jones says:

    ISIS will attack in the UK in 45 minutes.

  66. 66
    Eu Kommisar says:

    Democracy in the eurozone?


  67. 67
    Vote Tory for unlimited immigration says:

    Shop online.

    Just be wary of postmen with beards and ticking parcels.

  68. 68
    jgm2 says:

    Fuck off you sanctimonious prick.

  69. 69
    Anonymous says:

    He wasn’t even elected by the Labour party. Bullied his way in.

  70. 70
    Elsie Hargreaves 5 Railway Terrace Dewsbury says:

    Can we put them in quarantine ?

  71. 71
    Anonymous says:

    @Twampersand mk II well seeing as this country elects parties and these parties choose who becomes prime minister, I suggest you shut up!

  72. 72
    Socialism is theft says:

    I disagree. All those countries that get a net benefit from EU contributions will want even more. That is why there isn’t an even bigger outcry in those countries against the utterly corrupt EU.

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    Head says:

    “do not turn up at debates”

    Errant nonsense or tory propaganda.

    You can see Farage et al in action, on youtube.

    see me after class

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    Socialism is theft says:

    But they do turn up and vote. Far more than people like Gordon Brown do.

  75. 75

    “the elected Prime Ministers”

    What role should unelected Prime Ministers play?

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    Eton mess says:

    Cameron don’t do “do”.
    Cameron, he do words.
    Words good.
    Doing is for oiks.

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    Ve vill ask ze qvestyuns says:

    What debate?

  78. 78
    UKIP Voter says:

    I would like to leave the EU construct then have a debate as to whether to re-join.

  79. 79
    Socialism is theft says:

    More importantly why does Cameron assume that Europe and the EU are the same thing?

  80. 80
    Socialism is theft says:

    Ask Gordon Brown.

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    Anonymous says:

    Taking the piss out of the sham parliament of thieves and traitors is about all it’s f-ing good for.

  82. 82

    None at all. But they do (or similarly titled fonctionnaires do). In the EU.

  83. 83
    coulda woulda shoulda says:

    Irish voted “No”.

    Cameron described the Government’s plans as the “height of arrogance” and accused the Government of “flying in the face of public opinion.”

    Brown goes ahead.


    But now we know, Dave was merely posturing and playing political games. The twat.

  84. 84
    pookie snackumberger says:

    What happend to the Malta crissis and the Argintina/Malvenus turnout?

    Weren’t we suposed to get all hot and bothered about them and not pay attention to what was happening in our own country?

    Vote UKIP

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    Socialism is theft says:

    Looks like the EU and Dave will cut a deal. The EU will get Junckers and Dave will get his wish to invite Albania and Turkey into the EU. Get ready for another flood of poverty stricken immigrants.

  86. 86
    Anon says:

    Just stop paying them any money.

  87. 87
    Alan Clarke, Tory, originator of Bongo Bongo Land says:

    You’d be daft not to.

  88. 88
    Gordon Brown (unelected PM) says:

    We sign the treaties behind closed doors

  89. 89
    #Traitorsgate says:

    Ben Bradly is traitorous Scum.

    Only a rabid lefty would find the defeat of Great Britain by the EU a laughing matter.

  90. 90
    Wibble says:

    Jimmy was probably one of the few who actually did vote for him.

  91. 91
    Reliable Source says:

    Was it in the Sun?

  92. 92

    RSPB favours further releases of beavers :-) – HeraldScotland


  93. 93
    # Nuke Brussels says:

    Press the button Dave. They won’t do it again .

  94. 94

    Even Jimmy was embarrassed by Brown…

  95. 95
    Oh for gawds sake... says:

    Pure political theatre. It’s basically ‘bread and circuses’, but without the bread…

  96. 96
    Enoch powell says:

    Don’t bring my name into this gay zoo of a parliament

  97. 97

    Recall some better moments in UK politics, to contrast Cameron…

    Vote UKIP :-D

  98. 98

    … and an excess of clown in the circus.

    Vote UKIP :-D

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    Fishy says:

    Just stumbled on the Passport Office debate in Parliament. Teresa May, trying to update MPs is being hampered by Labour MP’s interrupting to showboat and ask May where Mrs Jones, Mr Smith, Mr Uddin from Acacia Avenue’s applications are up to.

    Apparently 24 staff have been set aside to receive calls from MPs about additional cases…and more will be set aside next week. Those 24 or more staff would be better placed to deal with applications, not showboating MPs.

    Mrs Balls is sitting there with a face like a slapped arse, continually interrupting.

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    Village Idiot says:

    ..They are not there to comply with the EU, rather to expose it and create mischief, and , ultimately , to destroy it, I hope!!!!

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    ? says:

    Having such a massive out of touch federalist knob like Junkers being made head of the EU makes Cameron’s job of being a Europhile PM that much harder.
    It is not on behalf of the UK Dave is objecting to Junkers that is for sure.

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    Let Down by Lefty insurgents says:

    He didn’t reckon on Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron just giving Great Britain’s sovereignty away. How could he have realised that a British PM would do such a disgusting thing?

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    jgm2 says:

    But can see no wrong in Blair.

    A man who invented ‘evidence’ to justify his insane war in Iraq. And now that it’s all gone to shit his justification is ‘It would have gone to shit anyway. But now that it’s gone to shit we should get involved in the shit again.’

    The c*unt is insane. Yet still his little internet apologists cannot get their tongues far enough up his arse.

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    Unhinged says:

    ….”We are where we are”…..(never a thought that the daft twat got us there.)

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    jgm2 says:

    Ah, Mrs Balls. The next leader of HM loyal opposition. Around July 2015.

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    Churchill could not have been reasonably expected to have anticipated the four horsemen of mediocrity (the monochrome, the megalomaniac, the mongoloid and the moronic) to have come to pass.

    But Churchill would say:

    Vote UKIP :-D

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    The two Muppets says:

    Ben Bradshaw was useless as Health Minister and Culture Secretary
    in the Blair/Brown Governments, and was caught with his snout in the
    trough in 2009 . A typical Labour politician .

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    Village Idiot says:

    ….If he was not elected, then his signing is null and void and counts for nothing!…..We,ve been had?????
    Lisbon Treaty not signed by an elected Prime Minister of Great Britain, so , we can get out of it, …..can,t we?

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    DPRK in detention.

    I’ran / M’yanmar – most improved.

    I’ndia / I’srael playing truant.

    Fair assessment:

    R’ussia circumventing the INF treaty by testing it’s long range ICBM’s over a shorter distance not mentioned, but certainly should be.

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    Bluebottle says:

    You sure of that ?

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    Mornington Crescent says:

    Eurasian beavers, too.


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    táxpáyér says:


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    Good guys in Syria become bad guys in Iraq ?????? says:

    Why the Fuck would ISIS whos stated aim is to create a Sunni Calaphate in Syria and Iraq lose focus by engaging in a terron campaign against the UK. They are going o need all their resources on taking Bagdad and all an attack on the UK would achieve would be to give us a pretext for sending in our troops…..oh hold on !

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    To Russia with love says:

    Manby Airfield is no longer operational send the extra nuke to London.

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    The Hinduja affair says:

    Put Keith Vaz in charge of the passport office as he has a good record of ensuring people receive their passports in jig time.

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    Mornington Crescent says:

    …23 or those 24 staff specifically for Keith Vaz who, apparently, has considerable experience in asking for passports.

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    Fishy says:

    Yes. She’s struggling to understand May’s figures at the moment – her back of the fag packet attempt to embarrass May is all over the place.

    It would appear that lack of numeracy runs in the family in the Balls household

  118. 118
    Knox Cunningham 'mentor' to Tony Blair says:

    Or me.

  119. 119
    Norma Stitz says:

    “Politicians think that, because they have made a speech about something, something has happened. All that has happened is that they have made a speech.”

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    It's all going to go Balkans says:

    If you’re not with them you’re against them whoever or wherever you are.
    That is the mad Muslim way of things.

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    Junkers 88 says:

    He’s Merkel’s puppet. WWIII and European domination but without that inconvenient collateral damage that happened last time. Deutschesland uber alles.

  122. 122
    Malcolm Rifkind says:

    Why did Ben Bradshaw find his question so hysterically funny?

  123. 123
    Mycroft says:

    Headline suggestion!

    Stupid Fokker downed by a Juncker!

    I thang-you, get my video now available in the foyer, only £99.99!

  124. 124
    táxpáyér says:

    Marxism based European unity projects are always force based and lead to war.

  125. 125
    Junkers 88 says:

    + 1000

  126. 126
    Mycroft says:


    Mid-air collision, no survivors, following state instructions to not revive the stupid fokker.

  127. 127
    táxpáyér says:

    + 1/0

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    Everyone in Chingford says:

    He blusters almost as much as IDS and Boris did when they pretended they’d fiight to save the Walthamstow dog track.

  129. 129
    Operation Sealying says:

    Does their ‘annual report’ ‘Spring/summer collection’ or whatever the fuck it is very helpfully outline their plans for the 2014-2015 season ? Maybe we should look up the chapter headed UK terror campaign 2014-2015 !!!!

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    Ben Bradshaw says:

    Can I be the messy shit?

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    Junckers 88 says:

    Because he’s a super twat.

  132. 132
    táxpáyér says:

    It’s what Blair did to THIS country that worries me, not the Iraq meddle.

  133. 133
    I Heart Frownie Justine says:

    There’s a photo of Justine on the beach here:


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    Eurograph says:

    John Major wrote in his memoirs that, besides Germany and France, none of the other countries ever stood up for themselves in rows about principles in Brussels (of course when it was money at stake they screamed and howled). They would complain bitterly about issues but then obediently do what the French and Germans wanted. Major believed they were all bribed by fat concessions to go along with the Franco-German alliance that really ran the EU. I doubt much has changed.

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    táxpáyér says:

    Some people will stukka to any level to make a joke.

  136. 136
    táxpáyér says:

    Unio Europaea delenda est

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    The British media are cunts says:

    Handycock says sorry.

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    Albert's chainsaw sharpeners says:

    So Camoron has just found out what the people of the country have been complaining or worried about, I hope he finds a deep hole for all the politicians to hide in, the I RA were playing compared to these people, the politicians have left us unarmed, no military and what’s left of a police force, don’t expect to EU to send military over here as according to Clegg they don’t have any, besides they will be recognised as an invasion force and piss the country off ,

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    The British media are cunts says:

    Spot on, the Europeans have always acted cowardly when in the face of jerry.

  140. 140
    Jack Ketch. says:

    Just like the Weimar Republic that produced, um, er–What’s ‘is name?

  141. 141
    Bottom says:

    He was laughing because Dave delivered legal bumsex of which Bendover Ben was a leading advocate.

  142. 142
    Angela and Junker says:

    Face facts Dave,



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    pigs in space says:

    Good to see Cam wearing a blue tie and Cloggy a yellow one. Looks like they are starting the differentiation for next years GE. Politions of all parties have been wearing purple ties mostly for the last few years.

  144. 144
    Jack Ketch. says:

    Is a Brazilian beaver invisible?

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    Cameron is a fat, useless cunt says:

    But “fought” sounds much more impressive than “stood up and talked bollocks that everyone ignored”.

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    Backdoor Ben - the shitstabber's shitstabber says:

    Dave’s one of us.

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    Who'd poke a munter like that? says:


  148. 148
    Dave - Blobby, Blobby, Blobby - Cameron says:

    My wisteria needs trimming.

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    geordieboy says:

    Cameron can huff and puff until the house blows down and Junkers will still get the job but will Cameron keep his promise to make an early exit from the EU? I don’t fucking think so.

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    Persona non grata says:

    Good. Anything to keep the f*cking Neo-cons in check.

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    EuRopedMeInForIt says:

    Bradshaw is just the kind of smug git who would be comfortable with a committed federalist like Juncker in place, so as not to rock any boats.

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    Ann, the poverty stricken accounts clerk says:

    Yup, just bin it and tell all those on the other side of the Channel that we are no longer part of their club – and as this week’s events have shown, the rest of the world is a huge place with which to trade without all this EU red tape and “Directives” getting in the way.

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    Ann, the poverty stricken accounts clerk says:

    ‘twat’ is not half strong enough. Stop being mealy-mouthed; say what you mean! :-)

  154. 154
    Ann, the poverty stricken accounts clerk says:

    I don’t recall Cameron being elected as PM of the UK either..

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    A drowning man will cling to Jack Straw.

  156. 156
    Ann, the poverty stricken accounts clerk says:

    Whenever an MP calls the duty bod on the desk should switch on the answerphone message saying: The applicant’s passport is in the queue and will be dealt with when it reaches the top of the pile. Have a nice day”. Click

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    Ann, the poverty stricken accounts clerk says:

    FFS, will you please change the f***g record. There is not one person on here (apart from you) who gives a flying f…ox about some stupid dog track.

  158. 158
    Ann, the poverty stricken accounts clerk says:

    If someone was to chuck him in the Thames, do you think anyone else would notice?

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    Dangerous Brian says:

    A bit more apposite than your mealy mouthed bull crap.

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    Cameron is a spineless collaborator , he should have pointed out that Juncker was only ever Prime minister of a country with a population hardly larger than some of the bigger London boroughs with no armed forces, where the only industries are dodgy banking ,Selling chocolate, and a little tourism.
    But as ever he quakes before Merkel ,Hollande , and Barrosso, no doubt with his eye firmly fixed on some nice little tax free sinecure after he surrenders the next election to the even more compliant EU poodle Milliband .

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    Disturbed Pensioner says:

    Quite, and these moral dwarves lord it over 500 000 000 people who have no personal contact or much information as to what they are like, or even how much they are stealing from them. Knowing Kinnock it is a staggering amount.

  162. 162
    Dodgy Geezer says:

    Ann darling, come into my bedroom and I’ll explain.

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    Dodgy Geezer says:

    Turkey will not get in because France will not allow it. The entry of Turkey would depress the prices of French agricultural products and ruin the French biased EU agricultural policy.

  164. 164
    Jack the Ripper says:

    Not to mention Ted Heath, Harold Wilson, Jim Callaghan, Margaret Thatcher and John Major.

  165. 165
    Dodgy Geezer says:

    Yes, whoever was on top of him at the time.

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    Dodgy Geezer says:

    Rubbish! They are not known for selling chocolate!

  167. 167
    Apthorpe says:

    You are arguing from a false premise.
    This is not democracy, for the EU legislative and executive bodies to function in a democratic way all of the EU states electorates would have to first be given the vote on the constitution and electoral process that these bodies would be elected by and the powers that they would have. This has not happened and there is no plan for it to. What you have now is, like the old USSR a plethora of voting but with real power held out of reach of the electorate.

    The British are not anti-Europe, we have traded with Europe in all its forms for thousands of years. What we are anti is grand unaccountable poltical schemes that are run behind close doors.

  168. 168
    Apthorpe says:

    He’s PR merchant they only deal in messages.

  169. 169
    Apthorpe says:

    Exactly the problem. The elite ensured it was a non-issue that ordinary voters could not have an effective voice on.

  170. 170
    Apthorpe says:

    Alas no one is voted into the postion of PM. The PM is the leader of the party that commands a majority in the House of Commons. And on he or she falls the power of patronage to form a government for as long as they command that majority in the HoC.

  171. 171
    Derp says:

    Why don’t people get this?!

    It’s like a spy getting flack for not pulling their weight for the enemy…

  172. 172

    David –to use the Teutonic form of syntax as we all in the future will be obliged so to fo :



  173. 173
    Bill de Burgh says:

    Hancock. Syria. Iraq. Blair. Oakeshott. Hancock. The bird in the purple top behind Dave who looks like she’d benefit from a good seeing-to. Junckers. Hancock. MP’s expenses. Inexorable Chinese influence expansion. Clegg. Cable. Hancock. Yes, yes, I get it.
    But why wasn’t more done to save Walthamstow dog track?

  174. 174
    Anon says:

    In dealing with Juncker, can we just not have him terminated with etreme prejudice

  175. 175
    Big D says:

    Look folks I tried I really tried but it didnt work out .
    Yes I know Germanys in charge but just consider this at least they arent bombing us this time that surely stands for something doesnt it ?
    Anyway time to take the missus on a date , sees yur all later.
    LOL Dave

  176. 176
    All MP's are scum says:

    Twats find that comparison offensive.

  177. 177
    Necrophiliac Dating Agency-Just Where Do They Dig These People Up From? says:

    MEP’s don’t ‘elect’ the new European commissioners, Leaders of the EU’s National Governments do. Do try and keep-up.

  178. 178
    Necrophiliac Dating Agency-Just Where Do They Dig These People Up From? says:

    And you’re basing this lie on what Statistics? Source the voting/Attendances of UKIP in relation to the other party’s in the Euro Parliament and then we’ll dance…BTW, the blog you’re after is down the hall, take the first left, then left again, then the first left. Some might call that ‘going-around in circles’, but hey, no-one’s perfect.

  179. 179
    I'm Nice, just like a Vanilla and Chocolate enema says:

    You don’t hear much from the ‘UKIP are racist’ kuts now do you? If it were a REAL accusation then there’d be some Jail-time involved. There isn’t. So one must draw some fucking simpleton conclusions from entire affair. UKIP ARE NOT A RACIST PARTY, and those ‘budding’ Socialists, apart from voting for a War Criminal in Tony Blair, are FUCKING LIARS. Does that get you? I sure hope it does.

  180. 180
    John Tandy says:

    This will not help the UK at all. Germany wins yet again……..

  181. 181

    The EU can only continue so long as the taxpayers of Germany are blind to the obvious fact that it is their money keeping the whole stinking edifice afloat .

  182. 182
    Tom Catesby says:

    ‘If you want reform in Europe, you’ve got to stand up for it’.’If you want change in Europe you’ve got to vote for it’. Sure Do! Vote UKIP.

  183. 183
    Tom Catesby says:

    Can’t see the point of these arguments myself, they are all red herrings and politicos bluff, designed to confuse and fool the people, example? Even those total opportunist shits, the limpdicks, who believe in nothing except clinging to a grubby bit of influence on the tory government, are talking about sham support for a ‘referendum’. More proof required? Didn’t think so, vote UKIP.

  184. 184
    Incredulous Punter says:

    Solid proof that:

    1: It’s all a load of bollocks
    2: Our politicians are helpless to reform or change the EU in any way
    3: We should leave the EU at the earliest moment

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