May 19th, 2014

10 Establishment Loonies Not Mentioned By Mainstream Media

Guido has said before that the mainstream media has consistently failed to give equal prominence to stories about the establishment parties’ loony members compared to those in UKIP. Here is a helpful round-up of Tory, Labour and LibDem nutters who didn’t make the news from, er, the BBC’s Daily Politics:

And let’s not forget the LibDems:

They’ve got a point…


110 Comments

  1. 1
    Free Pass Only for the Liberal Elite says:

    And who is protecting them & why?

  2. 2
    Anonymous says:

    Access to this video has been denied. http://content.jwplatform.com/videos/AN7dzBVR-zcJAubgS.mp4

  3. 3
    King James 1 says:

    Methinks Guido has redeemed himself!

  4. 4
    Persona non grata says:

    About time Guido. All the Hunts on DP, venomously laying into Farage whilst ignoring their own indiscretions. And who would have guessed Lammy was of immigrant stock?

  5. 5
    Hope not Soap says:

    Any mention of SWP r’apists?

  6. 6
    Maqb­oul says:

    More than that, a clever setup. Drawing everyone into the feeding frenzy on UKIP and then hitting them with the old hypocrisy trump card.

  7. 7
    Upchuck Umumma says:

    You’re all C list trash.

  8. 8
    rimmmmer says:

    But then you pump out at least one “UKIP uses the word Britain and nudge nudge wink wink so do the B&P” article every day while linking to the worst of the mainstream smears against ukip.

    Tossing a bone now is a bit late, Guido. The mainstream media has behaved disgracefully in recent weeks with regard to ukip and you have joined in. You have convinced me to vote ukip at least, just to piss off the likes of you and H.o.d.g.e.s.

  9. 9
    Andrew Efiong says:

    We can get the measure of Labour and Tory in government, national and local.

    All we can see from UKIP is Nigel Farage, it’s hard to name another party member. In Nigel’s shadow we find criminal records, ejected MEPs, rejected councillors and plenty of hilarious gaffes and blunders to keep this web log turning.

  10. 10
    TheTimes says:

    UKIP should put in their 2015 policies the right to recall MP’s.

    Also make MP’s jobs just like anyone else’s in our country. You break the law, you lose your job, get a mark on your CRB and can never work in politics or be a Civil Servant again.

    Imagine the votes they’d get. We might even end up with something that resembles a democracy for the people.

  11. 11
    Jimmy the fish says:

    I’ve read this blog for years, back well before thick as thieves and Harmanpride used to entertain us. Guido you actually once commanded respect and were the only blog of importance, getting the mcbride scoop was important and show what a mendacious liar brown really was.

    But your reputation is over now. To see you join in with the attempt to smear ukip is pathetic. We are now seeing that the guardian has a secret deal with the Tories for it. Channel 4 have gone mental over it. And let’s not even talk about the odious and moronic dan hodges and the telegraph.

    I am truly mystified why you have joined in with their game, money, peer pressure, blackmail over something, threats about leveson being extended to blogs, no idea. But you have done so and your reputation as an independent voice is gone forever.

    The post here is absolutely atrocious. You know damn well that you could draw such comparisons with half the slogans the Tories and labour use, anything with the word Britain in it really.

    From being torn between Tory and ukip, you have pushed me or the edge to vote ukip and I even donated to them in principle that the ENTIRE media are playing dirty and it’s wrong. Do remember Brits live an underdog though and everyone can see garage is a decent bloke…

  12. 12

    And they are just the tip of the iceberg.

  13. 13
    B3 says:

    @ no 3, you’re easily pleased aren’t you?

    @6 Nail on head!

  14. 14
    Anonymous says:

    The smug faces of biased BBC panel revealed that they thought they were witnesses of another `car crash`. See you on Thursday boys!

  15. 15
    Jimmy the fish says:

    Sorry for the repeat post – but I am genuinely pissed off and I hope Guido reads it. For years now when I have had 5 minutes before the start of work I have clicked on to this blog feeling I might get some insight the bbc and others would try to bury. So I am really frustrated to find this blog has been co-opted into the mainstream and to do so so blatantly and indulges the worst of the smear tactics. Honestly articles like the one about how ukip talk about taking back our country – the sort of slogan used throughout the world – but with a smear to link to the B&P might as well have been written by Dan Hodges or Cathy Newman. It is a real shame.

  16. 16
    Persona non grata says:

    Good suggestions. I’ll post them on the UKIP blog, to see if there is any support for these measures. I suspect there might be.

  17. 17
    Anonymous says:

    The BBC are a joke. They point out Labour then don’t ask Lammy about that,they ask him about UKIP.

    The Labour list was very short,why no mention of Diane Abbott, convicted p do’s et al?

  18. 18
    Jimmy the fish says:

    (So obviously “the post here” referred to the one earlier today where Guido tried to smear UKIP with an meaningless and non-existent link to the B&P – I just copied and pasted my message then)

  19. 19
    Anon & Voting for UKIP ORG says:

    Its all in the handshake !!!

  20. 20
    Dan Hodges Cat says:

    What pisses Dan off most is when I drape a shit half in and half out the litter tray.
    I don’t see much hope just plenty of hate in his eye’s as he cleans it up.
    I’ll break him one day

  21. 21
    PMQs MPs says:

    Hear Hear!

  22. 22
    Mr & Mrs Farage says:

    http://s.coop/onyourside

    VOTE GREEN ON THURSDAY

  23. 23
    In other news says:

    Arnold Pickering, who absconded while on day release, has been arrested. He’s being charged with being at large without a comedy nickname.

  24. 24
    Man in a cave says:

    What is this UKIP?

    never heard of it before

  25. 25
    Austin Tash says:

    This list covers yesterday’s (the 15th May) and today’s press reports only. The breakdown is:

    Tories – 2 on firearms offences, 1 for falsely claiming to be a barrister, 1 drink driving ban, 1 disqualified for benefits fraud, 1 cronyism over pub license breach, 1 accused of sexist remarks

    Labour – 1 banned from office for bullying, 1 cronyism delaying prosecution for benefits fraud, 1 electoral fraud allegation, 5 resignations over racism claims, 2 resignations over homophobia claims, 1 facing investigation into homophobic remarks

    Lib Dem – 2 on benefits fraud charges

    http://www.nopenothope.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/the-latest-digest-of-crimes-etc-by.html

  26. 26
    Kenneth Wolstenholme says:

    Today’s halftime smears score : UKIP, 4. Every other party, 1

  27. 27
    Mr Quelch says:

    BREAKING Nigel Farage to standardise shoe sizes to 15 : “For too long the clown footed have been mocked for their disability, UKIP will end that”

  28. 28
    intergalacticsuperhero says:

    I don’t think we need to worry about Romanians.

    The biggest threat to this country, our way of life, and a democratically elected Parliament is the media.

    Would you date a journalist on the Telegraph?

    Would you want a houseful of men from the BBC living next door to you and your children?

  29. 29
    Anonymong says:

    It’s pure brand damage. Whether Guido is aware of it or not, he’s taking part in a blatantly orchestrated CCHQ media campaign. It means he’s no better than the lobby hacks he so often derides.

    If the ‘Guidoisation’ of politics has been reduced to taking the same media lines as everyone else, what is the point of this blog?

  30. 30
    IMHO says:

    No he hasn’t.

    He needs to withdraw the slurs he has been spreading about UKIP in the pretense of ‘reporting’ them. Oh, and sack H@rry C@le.

  31. 31
    Perry Neeham says:

    If we’re all repeating our posts I’ll join in!
    The point is that Guido treats all politicos the same – whether they are LibLabCon or your cherished UKIP.
    BTW, while I’m on can’t resist sharing this guy’s sane and measured views:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10839448/My-rivals-should-be-hanged-for-treason-says-Ukip-candidate.html .

  32. 32
    Austin Tash says:

    The smears are working — UKIP up one point in latest General Election poll (Tories in the lead):

    http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/05/19/populus-becomes-the-third-pollster-in-a-week-to-show-the-tories-ahead/

  33. 33
    IMHO says:

    I agree. He’s proven himself to be a nasty Murdoch shill.

  34. 34
    Confused.com says:

    Quite. Seems as though comments on Romanians is deemed more important than p’do apologists on the Labour front bench or worse in the (past) upper echelons of the Libs. Perhaps the MSM ( which I think now includes this blog ) deem the sensitivities of a few economic migrants more worthy than abused kids. Nice!

  35. 35
    Anonymous says:

    Worth noting that David Lammy sees racism everywhere. Even smoke can be racist.

  36. 36
    facts says:

    Sadly the mainstream media has proved in recent weeks how
    completely out of touch it has become from it’s core readership.
    Plummeting newspaper sales won’t ever increase if readers are
    patronised and basically accused of racism because they identify
    with and support UKIP.

  37. 37
    Maimed Codger says:

    Stalin Killed more people than Hitler, so why this problem with a Fascist state when a Communist one seems acceptable…somewhere here the balance is all wrong.. at Golf Yesterday I was rather surprised how many were talking about UKIP in a favorable light, it seems across the political spectrum of male voters this EU vote is not seen as something really serious, UKIP will attract votes it might not get in a general election… but then if they do well in Europe, who knows..

  38. 38
    Anonymong says:

    Really? Where are Guido’s daily attack pieces on the Lib Dems, Conservative and Labour from the past fortnight. I must have missed them, strange that.

  39. 39
    Wake up - Green is the new red says:

    Break the mould.

    Vote UKIP.

  40. 40
    Polly Pot says:

    Golf is a middle class pursuit for white imperialist males.

    Under Ed Milioband golfers would be taxed 95% of their pensions and forced to draw the tax out in cash and give it to a black family who never enjoyed the privilege of Empire.

  41. 41
    Guido... says:

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  42. 42
    BBC Red Bottom says:

    Ohhh, don’t mind us ducks! We’re very quiet..You won’t here a peep except during Eurovision and the Sex in the City Marathon.

    If the Iroquois wind chime bothers you feel free to smash it to bits. It’s Grahams’ and he hasn’t a shred of taste!

    I’ll leave a mallet in the shed..help yourself ..byezies!

  43. 43
    Albert's chainsaw sharpeners says:

    Upto a month ago the LibLabCon merchants considered that voting in the EU elections were nothing to be considered about now and if people voted for UKIP they will be back to their main party in 2015, why is it they have tried to destroy this party, they have used every dirty trick in the book to smear UKIP, why? why?, if the EU elections are a nothing to worry matter, for what party’s and media have done I will vote UKIP in the EU and 2015 elections and I hope millions follow, what a lot of vile nasty people we have in the Palace of Westminster and in the media, the gutter press is far to good a term for the media.

  44. 44
    Anonymous says:

    Erm,wonder why Lammy really gave Abbott a pass?

    David Lammy:

    “Look what happens when you fall foul: Diane Abbott exchanges views with a constituent on the homogeneity of the black community and makes an error. She says that white people try to divide and rule the black community. She’s been branded racist. By MPs. By Twitter. Even, implicitly, by her own boss. Her crime? Forgetting to add the word “some”.

    … Diane may be passionate, witty, Leftist, reactionary and occasionally boorish, but racist? Never.

  45. 45
    Jimmy the fish says:

    Clearly untrue Perry.

    I’m not even a ukip man, I’ve voted tory all my life but now i am supporting ukip.

    The media are trying to smear ukip. Guido has joined in. I’m all for criticism of politicians but that isn’t what’s going on here – and you know it. Go to a working mens club and see what labour voters think of non-whites and the EU. You might get the shock of your life. Just don’t expect to see Cathy Newman and Guido writing articles about it.

    When ukip do stuff wrong, fine criticise them. I think they leave themselves open to criticism by taking expenses from the EU for example though i know they have good reasons to do so. Still it is a legitimate story. Trying to smear them as being the b&p is not. Of course you know the difference.

  46. 46
    Woman in a Handbag says:

    Vote for Green UKIPpers

  47. 47
    Anonymous says:

    Lam my is as thick as shit..

  48. 48
    Ronald McDonald says:

    RAAACCCCCIIIIISSSSTTTTTTT!!

  49. 49
    Ockham's Razor says:

    The only thing that I know for sure is that I know nothing. So what follows has only a chance of being correct.

    This site that you are visiting is primarily a business. It makes money from various sources including advertising. If the Communist Party want to advertise here, and are prepared to pay the rate, then we should not expect the proprietor to do other than accept the money. I would in such circumstances.

    Right at the moment there are some very sad people who think that, by throwing walls of cash about, they can affect the outcome of this week’s election. If they are right at all, and there was some limited evidence of this on the previous page, then you cannot blame our host from profiting from it.

    So far, so good. But it becomes rather more opaque from hereon in. For some years, this site ran as a sole proprietorship. This is what many here, myself included, really admired.

    Now a large part of it is managed by one who professed to be a Tory when he had his own blog. One needs to ponder what the more Libertarian inclined founder thinks as opposed to the now not-so-new junior partner.

    It would be incredible if they actually saw eye to eye over every issue. But the issue which really matters is that they continue to attract revenue which pays their bills. That imperative may help to paper over other lesser-order considerations (as evaluated in business terms).

    We who post here do not have such deflections to intervene in our calculus.

    So where we see something we can identify as bollocks, we can bellow out “bollocks!” In a polite and civilised way, of course.

  50. 50
    Newsfox says:

    Private Eye’s Rotten Boroughs has been doing it for years.

  51. 51
    Hell Al's Bacon Butties is that Cosher says:

    They could also test for drink and drugs if suspected of impaired behavior before a vote in the commons
    Maybe not most would be put in Broadmoor

  52. 52
    Raddiy says:

    Bought and paid for by a poke of Murdoch gold!!

    You could have been the one Guido, you could have stood on the side of ‘us’ rather than ‘them’ who have been fighting for years to right a wrong.

    When the chips were down you dropped your Calvin Klein’s, bent over and winked surrender at a wizened old Australian dick.

  53. 53
    Austin Tash says:

    Am I allowed to post this?

  54. 54
    #innocentface says:

    UAF are a front for the SWP aren’t they?

  55. 55
    Leftybrains says:

    The one I want see up is Alastair Campbell and Fiona Millar on ‘Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.’ They are asked who launched Skylab into space in 1973. The options were a) Britain b) France c) the Soviet Union d) the USA

    They didn’t know but thought it might be France. They phoned a friend who also thought it might be France. Final answer : France. I forget the sum they lost with that stunning display of knowledge, but it wasn’t that much.

  56. 56
    Jan says:

    Sickening to see Humphreys salivating and slavering.I remember a hit from 1970 ‘Young,Gifted and B…..ck’. Well this certainly doesn’t apply to Lammy does it? My pupils in 1970 Tottenham who were in the remedial class would have got more correct answers than this joke.

  57. 57
    john in cheshire says:

    UAF are certainly an affront – to normal, decent behaviour.

  58. 58
    Bluto says:

    By definition, no hippo can be considered ‘witty’.

    By the way wasn’t Lammy in the running for Brain of Britain or something a while back?
    Now I’ve made myself spill coffee all over the keyboard.

  59. 59
    Bluto says:

    .. and then install Firefoxy with Addddblok so you don’t get to see any of these pesky adverts anyway.

  60. 60
    Anonymous says:

    Hear hear +1 million…

  61. 61
    Bluto says:

    Sorry No53 below, I posted this before I got that far down the blog.

  62. 62
    David Lammy says:

    My mistake.

    I am however a great admirer of Pope John Paul II and his successor, Pope John Paul I.

    By the way, you are all racists.

  63. 63
    JH326y34523435432 says:

    Er, if they ended up here, they ARE enjoying the privilege of Empire.

  64. 64
    Nadia Cummycrotch says:

    Not really, let him prove his legitimacy by totting up the number of hostile stories on each party since January, do a scatter graph, and have the y axis as the number of comments or views… Let’s look at the stats.

  65. 65
    broderick crawford says:

    Let me have about me men that are lean and hungry .

    Yon Gweeders has a stout and lethargic look

    ( shome mishtake there –Ed)

  66. 66
    broderick crawford says:

    Oooohhhh Chukkaa

    All the wonen I know say you are soooooo good looking , most of them wee their panties when you re on TV .

  67. 67
    Jack Ketch says:

    So are Greens, so are Hope-not-soap.

  68. 68
    broderick crawford says:

    I won t repeat myself again

    The next time you refuse to use the francophone spelling of Merde-doc the Committee will have no option but to send you for a good spanking administered by headmistress Viviane Reding who will dole out the punishment dressed in high heels ,a silk basque and lacy nylons held up by black satin suspenders …..and will force you to look !!!

  69. 69
    Jack Ketch says:

    Note to editors
    You really must get this modbot sorted. It kicks out perfectly uncontroversial posts based on crude word-matching. We know about that Northern town that ends in Thorpe, but a perfectly reasonable post of mine was bumped for referring to the German based language spoken by a European religious group. Now this one–holding for nearly an hour. Let me try again with spelling sidesteps/

    A useless statistic. The European population of the Ind1an Empire (Ind1a, P@k1st@n, Ceylon, Sikkim, B@ngladesh and a few bits and pieces) never exceeded 200,000 of which a third were in the army. In times of peace the figure was rarely above 125,000. There are 4.3 million people with Ind1an, B@ngladesh1, P@k1st@n1 and Sinhalese as their stated ethnicity in Britain as of 2011.

  70. 70
    Vince Cable says:

    What are these Liberal Democrats?

    never heard of them before

  71. 71
    Vlad the Loudhailer says:

    Is it any wonder we are all broke after 13 years of Labour!

    http://iaindale.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/when-david-lammy-should-have-known.html

  72. 72
    Kipper says:

    +10000000

  73. 73
    Kipper says:

    We’ll said that cod

  74. 74
    Sassoon says:

    Maybe Siegfried Sassoon had the right idea in his poem Fight to a Finish.

    Fight to a Finish

    The boys came back. Bands played and flags were flying,
    And Yellow-Pressmen thronged the sunlit street
    To cheer the soldiers who’d refrained from dying,
    And hear the music of returning feet.
    ‘Of all the thrills and ardours War has brought,
    This moment is the finest.’ (So they thought.)

    Snapping their bayonets on to charge the mob,
    Grim Fusiliers broke ranks with glint of steel,
    At last the boys had found a cushy job.

    . . . .
    I heard the Yellow-Pressmen grunt and squeal;
    And with my trusty bombers turned and went
    To clear those Junkers out of Parliament.

    Siegfried Sassoon

  75. 75
    Anonymous says:

    I would like UKIP to state that no-one can stand on the party ticket unless they have worked, outside parliament, for ten years. Everyone needs to do a proper job.

  76. 76
    the colonal says:

    Definition of failure.David Lammy A black Labour MP who cannot command a front bench post.

  77. 77
    Does my pun look big in this? says:

    Just raise the minimum age to 40 then.

  78. 78
    Does my pun look big in this? says:

    Just a bit… especially in places like sHunthorpe.

  79. 79
    Does my pun look big in this? says:

    Right, so why not just mention Jack Straw and Dominic Grieve in the same paragraph as Farage?

    The obvious point is that being better than the MSM means not just following their lead, but stepping back and applying a little objective analysis.

    It’s pretty gay the way Guido tries to argue that he’s only presenting the news or only reporting when ukip fuck up… this isn’t journalism but effectively just disingenuous hotlinking to news outlets with very clear agendas.

    He can call most of his commenters lunatics, but they have a very obvious point behind all the inarticulate ranting – that he is being a shit blogger by not adding value to the news from other outlets by challenging it – or at least comparing and contrasting it for consistency and rationality, and that IS genuinely negatively affecting his credibility.

    I don’t think, as he seems to imply, that the commenters here expect him to defend ukip or undermine criticisms of them, but what they do expect is for him to genuinely take the piss out of everyone – just blindly regurgitating news from elsewhere is just trolling, and no better than your average Daily Mail article.

    Where is his own voice?

    Just saying “ooh look, paper x says this about so and so” is just lame bollocks really.

    I suppose what it really comes down to is that there is big appetite for a blogger who rips the shit out of the MSM in general – and Guido seems to fancy himself in that role, but quite frankly, he doesn’t appear to have sufficient talent for it.

    Far easier to just do a bit of trolling and maintain a level of traffic sufficient to claim some kind of influence on the scene.

    Very cheap; very lame really.

    Guido seems to do what the DM does in terms of grabbing attention and entertaining the reader with bollocks, but like the DM, when it comes to content, he’s mostly a bit wank really.

    Guido, raise your game, or fuck off.

  80. 80
    Anonymous says:

    Why shouldn’t UKIP come under scrutiny? It is a pity that no one actually asks them to cost anything. Also why cannot people see that Nigel Farage makes a very good living being a MEP, hypocrite springs to mind.

  81. 81
    Does my pun look big in this? says:

    Some black MPs are as thick as shit.

  82. 82
    Does my pun look big in this? says:

    The Labour front bench is hideously hideous.

  83. 83
    Does my pun look big in this? says:

    Neil Kinnock and Peter Mandelson make even better livings as EU commissioners.

    Do you still have a problem with people making a very good living?

    There’s a difference between scrutiny and incitement to hatred.

  84. 84
    Anonymous says:

    No I don’t but Farage is very happy working as an MEP and at the same time saying he wants to come out of the Eu.

  85. 85
    youthpasta says:

    The Greens ones were highly amusing, yet unsurprising. Mostly illiberal acts from those that would view themselves as being among the more liberal members of society!

  86. 86
    Does my pun look big in this? says:

    Este Cyril Smith Romån?

    http://www.curentul.ro/2011/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=60353&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=43

    Da-mi-ai limbi in cur să-mi ciufuleşti căcătul!

  87. 87
    Ed on collision says:

    Look! I stopped as soon as I found out I’d been found out!

  88. 88
    Transylvanian Families says:

    Adevarat! Nu mai e mult scop. Avem nevoie de ceva mai mult balcoane romanesc.

    http://www.libertatea.ro/detalii/articol/in-ce-pozitii-fac-sex-femeile-bune-la-pat-478184.html

  89. 89
    Transylvanian Families says:

    I meanted s horpe of course.

  90. 90
    Transylvanian Families says:

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    For fuck’s sake… why can you say fuck but not çunt? You ¢unt.

  91. 91
    Transylvanian Families says:

    Is he from Niger originally? of from the city of Bum in Sierra Leone.

  92. 92

    Guido used to be the Sam Vimes of political blogs. Nowadays he’s one of many Mayonnaise Quirkes

  93. 93
  94. 94
    Old Rat says:

    Who on earth is the speccie twat on newsnight? Condercending arse.

  95. 95
  96. 96

    And the poetic justice/irony is that he’s using his EU allowance to help us get out of the damned monstrosity……. hahahahaha!

  97. 97

    PMSL – I love cats, they’re real characters.

  98. 98

    To the best of my knowledge that’s one of their intentions.

  99. 99

    Yes – I was beginning to think he’d sold out to the rotten Establishment.

  100. 100

    The man has the brain of an amoeba……. which is probably an insult to amoebas.

  101. 101

    Don’t like Watermelons!

  102. 102

    And you’ll never hear of them again……. not outside of a courtroom, at least.

  103. 103

    He made himself look like the complete and utter idiotic tw@t that he actually is on Mastermind.

    He clearly has an extremely unwarranted high opinion of himself.

  104. 104
    The death of Labour says:

    What? You think most people know the names of more than a couple of MPs?
    They struggle to remember the names even of convicted Labour MPs never mind the ones still on the run!

  105. 105
    Owen Jones says:

    So does every Labour MP

  106. 106
    The Truth about PR says:

    You really don’t understand the point of UKIP do you?

    Are you being disingenuous, or just thick?

    The EU election is the only one that is PR, so it’s the only one where a party like UKIP can get representation, coverage, and money to make inroads in the FPTP elections.

    Given that UKIP starts out as a party focussed on the EU, it is even more logical that they should stand in the EU elections so that the public are able to express their rejection of the EU – otherwise they would only have pro-EU parties to vote for, and that would be like a Zimbabwe/Iraq/NorthKorea style election, where the choice is between how high rather to jump or not.

    Until the UK adopts full PR, the public are not fully enfranchised – if all four main parties got 25% at the GE, the spread of MPs wouldn’t come anywhere near reflecting that, which a complete and utter fucking disgrace.

    If we weren’t in the EU, probably wouldn’t exist; but in order for Farage to get into Parliament, he has no choice but to use the EU.

    Anyway… given how much we are forced to put into the EU, it’s fair enough for him to get the money – he represents millions of voters unrepresented in our own Parliament!

  107. 107
    Labour is the enemy of the working classes says:

    You really don’t understand the point of UKIP do you?

    Are you being disingenuous, or just thick?

    The EU election is the only one that is PR, so it’s the only one where a party like UKIP can get representation, coverage, and money to make inroads in the FPTP elections.

    Given that UKIP starts out as a party focussed on the EU, it is even more logical that they should stand in the EU elections so that the public are able to express their rejection of the EU – otherwise they would only have pro-EU parties to vote for, and that would be like a Z!mbabwe/!raq/North|<orea style election, where the choice is between how high rather to jump or not.

    Until the UK adopts full PR, the public are not fully enfranchised – if all four main parties got 25% at the GE, the spread of MPs wouldn't come anywhere near reflecting that, which a complete and utter fucking disgrace.

    If we weren't in the EU, probably wouldn't exist; but in order for Farage to get into Parliament, he has no choice but to use the EU.

    Anyway… given how much we are forced to put into the EU, it's fair enough for him to get the money – he represents millions of voters unrepresented in our own Parliament!

  108. 108
    Wake Up Call says:

    To date, UKIP have shown themselves incapable of forming a consistent set of policies and then explaining those to the public. People are voting for them because they are the only party that seems committed to opposing mass immigration (the EU issue is far more marginal in my view).

  109. 109
    Terminally Bewildered says:

    Lammy (ex-Higher Education MInister!) is definitely “special needs” and is incapable of being embarrassed.
    Remember him from Celebrity Mastermind bottom of the class with a total of 13 points. Asked what Marie Curie’s maiden name was he answered “Antoinette”. Apparently Henry VIII was succeeded by his son, Henry VII.
    If ever a man prospered from racial “disadvantage” that man is Lammy.
    Only in Nu Labour.

  110. 110
    Amoeba says:

    —- amoebae– gerrit righ’


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