May 15th, 2014

Quote of the Day

Peter Oborne points out:

“No political party in modern history – not even Neil Kinnock’s Labour in 1987 – has come under such sustained attack and misrepresentation. Mr Kinnock at least had The Guardian and the Daily Mirror; Mr Farage cannot boast a single national title, and several papers are running vendettas against him. Mr Kinnock was treated reasonably fairly by the broadcast media. This is not the case with Mr Farage: consider the lacerating contempt shown towards him by Channel 4 News and its chief presenter, Jon Snow. Nick Robinson, the BBC’s political editor, has also abandoned his usual fairness when dealing with the party.”


  1. 1
    dai amused says:

    the established media are realising that time has been called on the old system – ukip’s rise may both a symptom and a cause – and ukip is getting the media backlash -perhaps to its electoral benefit

    the fictional world portrayed by snow & robinson reflects their idea of their own worth

  2. 2
    Sunny Jim says:

    The sheeple have finally woken up – and the Establishment are crapping themselves. Excellent.

  3. 3
    lojolondon says:

    Peter Oborne should have pointed out that even the right-wing, anti-government Guido is attacking Farage personally and UKIP generally.

    Disgusting behaviour by all the MSM, that will be suitably rewarded at the ballot box.

    It is increasingly clear that the MSM does not represent patriotic British opinion, in fact, tries very hard to modify and manage the opinions of their readers.

    Unfortunately Guido has to be included in this attack.

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    lojolondon says:

    BTW – Nick Robinson – fair?? You have to be joking, he is as weak on Labour as all the rest of them!! Just watch any of his interviews with Bliar, Brown or Miliband, not a single tough question – ever.

  5. 5

    There may be gaping holes in parts of UKIP’s ideology (just like all the other parties), but the monstering behaviour of the media make me want to ‘watch the world burn’, and I can’t be the only one.

    Kick up the establishment’s arse for these elections, and find the positives for the GE…

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    UKIP are clowns says:

    UKIP offer overly simplistic solutions to difficult problems. Try to be all things to all men and are swept up in their own hyperbole. They are worthy of contempt.

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    Hang all Tories says:

    Here Here Mr Oborne well said.

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    ed milliband peoples representitive of doncaster says:

    the express is on his side and have been for a while

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    tigerowl says:

    Farage and UKIP have set themselves up as anti the establishment. Too much of their message is generalisations and as we have found over its predictions, way off the mark. They have no policies that people can ask them about. Simply saying that coming out of the EU and having border controls will solve all our problems,
    So it is only right that UKIP are questioned. How else are we to learn what UKIP have to offer? At the moment it is UKIP saying vote for us and…. well and what?
    The idea of an Australian immigration system of points will create a labour shortage. What points would you give an unskilled Polish worker who is here to pick vegetables? Farage talks only of skilled people coming here. Problem there. The agricultural economy is not where most people live. It is in rural areas and to pick it requires many more people than live in those areas. Sad for locations like Boston, but there are then two options. Let the crops rot and pick what we can with the labour in the area, OR we bring in many workers to do the job. Not many are going to move from the higher unemployment areas of the cities to the countryside as there are no houses and the cost would not make it affordable. Low wages for one. So what is UKIPs idea over the agricultural industry? Having a point system for migrant workers based on skills will mean no unskilled agricultural labour would be available.
    So it is only right that UKIP are questioned. They may see it as them against the rest, but until UKIP come clean and provide their policies, they will be under the microscope. Voting for them at the moment is voting blind. Only a fool would do so.

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    tigerowl says:

    Who reads the Express? Run by porn merchants for a start. Only stories they cover are Princess Diana and the many conspiracies around her death. useless rag.

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    thostids says:

    The real difference this time is that, unlike when the Press for instance pushed Churchill as the “man for the moment” in 1940 and this was a stitch-up between the parties, this time the electorate were hideously lied to by both Blair and Cameron over existential risks who have destroyed any faith in the political class to tell any truth on such serious matters. The Media are equally proving duplicitous thus Robinson is a slaphead with an eye for his future if UKIP really do start to call the tune.
    They are all viewed with contempt by the informed and semi-informed voters, as for the rest, according to most of the politicos are simply calling them Racists, loonies fruit cakes swivel-eyed etc. well, tribalism works only up to the point where the main tribes decide that now is a very good time to give the ruling class a right good seeing-to. And there aren’t yet enough immigrants dependant on the State to rake up arms to protect their status quo and the politico, not even with postal votes.
    Wait until next week, Mr Robinson, the tumbrels might be added you to its list of pending passengers.

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    Old Grumpy says:

    I am unsurprised by this. While Farage gets a pretty fair share of positive coverage in the Daily Express (own column and all that) his disciples are less favoured, I suspect.

    Any adverse commentary on UKIP statements, actions ….. anything, immediately precipitates a saturation barrage of ill-tempered comment. Much of it borders on criminal abuse and probably will with the anticipated legislation covering this on line activity.

    At the beginning of last year, when participating in a “private” comments board, I identified a PROFESSIONAL seeking to subvert the political colour of mainstream political comment in that newspaper. I pointed this out to the paper, but they, “the professionals” held that the guy was just promoting an honest conviction………. until another participant actually identified the person as an anchor of the UKIP Official website!

    It is a substantiated tactic of UKIP to aggressively comment against dissenters, to discourage them from submitting their opinions. In many cases they have succeeded, as in the case quoted. The numbers of cowed respondents, who restarted their participation was quite significant, in a membership of about 20,000.

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    Submissive Servile 'Free Thinker' says:

    Take a look in the Mirror and just ‘reflect’ on your previous comment. What are these ‘difficult problems’, that you obviously understand so well, that the rest of us chimps cannot?

    PS. chuck in a few long words and hope that people mistake your ‘command of the English Language’ constitutes and overarching understanding of everyone’s Problems and Lives.

    Answers on the back of a postage stamp.

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    Perse O'Nalley says:

    Sounds like the tactics of LibLabCon

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    Peter Martin says:

    “BBC’s political editor, has also abandoned his usual fairness”


    Just needed to cut and paste that to re-read without cracking up.

    Nope. Not possible.

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    Pete says:

    Kinnock also had the BBC, so he was hardly friendless in the media.

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    Whippersnapper2 says:

    Hasn’t affected the poll ratings- in fact I think the press have done a wonderful job for UKIP and hope they keep at it for the next year at least. Every article every day is worth thousands of votes for us.
    At last the public have realised and understood that they are being conned by Lib/Lab/Con because they see the result of the shysters every day in their streets and their places of work and reality has set in, not the lies of the press and scum like Snow and his ilk.

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    The 'Bearded Girl' Next Door says:

    Yes, because before the EU no vegetables were ever grown or picked in the UK. BTW, I know what the LibLabCon’s policies are on the matter – they DON’T have one. Carry-on regardless. However, don’t let point hide your overt hatred and excessive criticism of UKIP get in the way of your very ‘objective’ thinking.

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    Whippersnapper2 says:

    Absolutely spot on I can smell the sh*t from here. The establishment press are doing a wonderful job for us we could not BUY their vituperation. Even the great British public have them sussed them as they see the real truth in their everyday lives not the Westminster dreamworld of scum like Snow & Robinson et al. Every article is thousands more votes for Nigel. Cometh the hour cometh the man.

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    Dr. Drain says:

    Spot on Peter Oborne. The reason is that establishment are crapping themselves and the sewer is blocked with the putrid waste of a cosy, metropolitan elite who are so out of touch that they don’t even recognise the stink. UKIP is there to clear the blocked pipes like a good dose of sulphuric acid. Power to Farage and a pox on the others’ houses.

  21. 21
    Weed All About It! says:

    The latest LOL from the Liberal Dictator Mr. ‘Democracy’ Clegg:

    “Eurosceptics are ‘deeply unpatriotic’, says Nick Clegg”

    Have Drugs been Legalized in the UK since I went to bed last night?

  22. 22
    Maimed Codger says:

    An interesting reaction to being scared of UKIP,

  23. 23
    B N P voter says:

    That, Mr “Old Grumpy”, is the complete opposite of the truth.

    Laced with a threat “criminal” … “anticipated legislation”.

    You say nothing about the abuse, threats, and violence directed at UKIP of an ACTUAL criminal nature.

    Your comment is disingenuous, given that it is a response to a diagnosis of where pro-UKIP commenter anger comes from – from the whole establishment being against them – you are a stooge, merely proving that point true.

    In a fair system, the anger would not exist, UKIP would be fairly represented in parliament, and probably less of a force – the British love an underdog – if you want to destroy UKIP, then let’s have PR in parliament, full representation and scrutiny – what are you afraid of?

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    8 N P voter says:

    That, Mr Grumpy, is the complete opposite of the truth.

    Laced with a threat “criminal” … “anticipated legislation”.

    You say nothing about the abuse, threats, and violence directed at UKIP of an ACTUAL criminal nature.

    Your comment is disingenuous, given that it is a response to a diagnosis of where pro-UKIP commenter anger comes from – from the whole establishment being against them – you are a stooge, merely proving that point true.

    In a fair system, the anger would not exist, UKIP would be fairly represented in parliament, and probably less of a force – the British love an underdog – if you want to destroy UKIP, then let’s have PR in parliament, full representation and scrutiny – what are you afraid of?

  25. 25
    8 N P voter says:

    It’s just typical Labour sulky spite at having lost – and lost when everything is on their side.

  26. 26
    8 N P voter says:

    Labour’s election song for 2015

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    Billy Badger says:

    Absolutely right. These rabid attacks show how scared the centre left, metro elite and media are of the rise of this new political group that is speaking for so many of the disenfranchised amongst us. As with anything new that has emerged so quickly there are growing pains which will settle down in the months to come. I for one will be voting UKIP and to hell with the others. They have had their chance and look what a mess they have made.

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    broderick crawford says:

    Farage interviewed by Mother Martha on World at One today . Acquitted himself well but lost some points in maintaining total population of 28 million Rumanians /Bulgarians could potentially migrate here plus 450 million poulation of the EU could trchnically up sticks and come to
    Blighty !!

    A bit fanciful Nigel expecially the last part .

    Then toned it down by saying he convinced immigration figures since Jan 1 on track to project 250 thou from Rum/Bulg over next FIVE years and most would come via Spain when they realized no prospects for them there.

    Thst s more like it Nigel . Highly possible . Probable indeed !

  29. 29
    broderick crawford says:

    …… or more validly …answers on a brain please ….preferably a functioning one .

  30. 30
    broderick crawford says:

    What about tbe Mail ?
    Doesn ‘ t or Didn’ t Oborne scribe for it ?

    Why can’t he convert his (ex) editors .??

  31. 31
    broderick crawford says:

    Yeah but hold on …. no houses for the Brits in country areas ?

    Yeah ..ok .. so where do all the unskilled immigrants sleep . In the greenhouses overnight ?

    I ‘ ll never eat tomatoes or lettuce with the same relish agsin .
    If that s the case sod the five a day kark . Stick to spuds and no Jackets !!

  32. 32
    broderick crawford says:

    Yeah …. but WE HERE know all this .
    But we are preaching in a mentally incestuous way to our own coterie of converted .

    How many people e read this or similar sites ?

    Now … How many sheeple will read their red top/broadsheet editorial on the Wednesday urging them to vote for one of the two ( three?) main parties and follow the instruction slavishly on the Thursday ?
    Quad erat demonstrandum .

  33. 33
    broderick crawford says:

    Yeah ….. and he lost !

    But with phrases loke

    “WHEN we get in — watch yer wallet !”


    “Weee’rre aaaaaaawwwwiiiiiioghhhhhht !!”

    … do you wonder !

  34. 34
    broderick crawford says:

    The Great Stink resurfaces again ???

    Call Bazalgette immediately !
    Why did nt his sewerage system last more than 200 years ?

    Are there no guarantees of master workmanship any more ?

    Built in obsolescence is every where .!

    ( next thing my washing machine of a mere 20 years will inexplicably cease to function !! )

  35. 35
    broderick crawford says:

    No . but he probably replenished supplies on a sortie to his favourite Amsterdam ” coffee shop “

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