January 3rd, 2014

Environment Agency Massively Over-Staffed
Arguably World’s Most Bloated Quango

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Prospect, the union which represents workers at the Environment Agency, is taking the opportunity of the floods to protest job cuts – “The government must call an immediate moratorium on 1,500 job cuts in the Environment Agency in the light of the flooding that has swept the UK this winter” – as if that would stop the rain. 1,500 job cuts sounds like a lot until you realise that it is only 10% of the bloated workforce.

Bloated? Well it is by international comparisons. Equivalent quangos in the rest of the world are much smaller, the Environment Agency for England alone has more staff than the Canadian, Danish, French, German, Swedish and Austrian equivalents, combined!

Only the US Environmental Protection Agency has more staff, (15,913 versus 11,200) hardly surprising given the US is some eighty times larger than the UK with six times the population. According to a whistle blower, blogging for Inside the Environment Agency“, based on international comparisons it has 9,000 too many and a billion plus budget that should be slashed in half. Some serious Treasury axe wielding required here…


264 Comments

  1. 1
    KEITH VAJAZZLE says:

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      vile labour ruined my wife says:

      it is pretty funny that the planes coming over were half empty at best and the 100,000s of people Farage and his moronic ilk predicted haven’t turned up.

      yet.

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        Faceless Bureaucrat says:

        I think the word ‘yet’ is the most telling…

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        • 21
          I hate socialists. says:

          The real peasants are coming by bus and coach .

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          • Leading BBC Reporter says:

            The BBC can confirm the expected invasion has failed to materialise, indeed travelling from Bulgaria to Heathrow by Virgin Business Class a team of 75 BBC journalists failed to find a single Roma immigrant.

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          • Toxic Labour for Spongers, Parasites, Immigrants and Criminals says:

            Only 75? It looks like the cuts are beginning to bite!

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          • time to break the HOUSE says:

            HO HO HO.
            use ?
            SUE.

            CLAIM THat.
            sue the HOUSE….for what?

            rather just HOHOHO.

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        • 26
          Anonymous says:

          This invasion hasn’t happened. We were promised floods on day one. The kippers are all going to have to dress up as convincing R&Bs and sleep rough in Hyde Park otherwise nobody’s going to give a fuck. Bit hard work at their age but needs must.

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          • Jack Ketch says:

            I am sorry to fall to the level of the Labour Party staffers who post on here, but you are a Twat. Today at 13h50 a coach pulled at Chatham Bus station. 34 people who looked suspiciously like Roma disembarked with an enormous collection of multi-colour striped bags and a great many plastic bags. They were met by a number of bashed up looking vehicles. Possibly they had arrived on a filthy cold, windy January day to look at the sights, maybe not.

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          • Airey Belvoir says:

            Apparently ther Roma take their New Year celebrations seriously and they run up to Jan 14th. A surge expected after that.

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          • Dick Head says:

            Dear God are you really this stupid?

            How many Roma can afford to fly, with their seven children to London?

            Do you have any idea what the average wage is in Bulgaria, Romania or Moldova ( who the Romanians have rather ‘helpfully’ have sold over a million passports to } is?

            Thought not.

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          • Only 13000 Poles will come here says:

            So how many of your glorious Poles arrived here on the first day, liblabconner?

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          • Sir William Wayde says:

            Romania and Bulgaria are mainly Orthodox Christian countries. Their Christmas falls on January 7. Not many people will want to leave home just before Crimbo.

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        • 28
          Justin Time says:

          We’ll know in the coming months whether UKIP were correct or just scaremongering. Just in time for the Euro elections.

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          • White Flight says:

            As if we were all going to wake up to Roma sleeping in our front gardens come 1st Jan.

            Give it six months..

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          • Roo Manianne says:

            As long as Vaz is on the front line greeting immigrants, then numbers are bound to be small.

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          • A good use of Vaz says:

            Well done Keith Vaz

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          • Count broderick garlic and crucifix says:

            THEY RE NOT THAT BAD THESE ROMAS ….. JUDGING FROM THE PHOTO OF THREE NEW ARRIVALS SAT AT A CAFETERIA IN LUTON AIRPORT

            INDEED THAT PODGY ELDERLY TANNED ONE WITH GLASSES AND PAUNCH LOOKED JUST LIKE ONE OF US ….

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        • 78
          Penfold says:

          Assuming the Border’s Agency, or whatever they call themselves these days, is capable of ticking boxes on their clip boards and giving us a genuine figure.

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          • Anonymous says:

            I’m sure they are, but they dare not.

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          • hold says:

            john has thawed.
            sweeney is merely a toad.

            lewis is alve.
            kick the habit.
            break john lweis.
            when only lewis would do, why have major.
            john major is so dead.
            be a general not a major. or even a general major.
            drive your motor as if you are a driver not a tosser.

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        • 128
          Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

          Remember only a few Poles turned up initially and now 700,000 later.

          For all the left wing mongs out there who think mass immigration is not a problem a few suggestions that may help the rest of us

          1. Let a Rumanian family sleep in your spare bedroom, or camp on your lawn

          2, If you have to go to hospital please stay on a trolley whilst a migrant has your bed.

          3. Take you kids miles to school out of your borough as most migrant areas are running out of junior school places

          4. Don’t complain if you have to wait for a few days to get a GP appointment

          5. Don’t complain if your kids have to wait years on the social housing list

          etc., etc.

          When will these left wing mongs get it into their thick heads that the UK is full, we cannot support the people already here never mind net immigration of 177,000

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          • Noneofthem says:

            The only thing I can correct from that is the number of Poles. Even the immigration loving BBC stated that 1.5 million of them came here.

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      • 69
        mr badger says:

        quite!! rumour has it the police are out searching for the missing 400,000 – these tory bastards should be shot

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      • 132
        lojolondon says:

        Speaking of morons – it is pretty funny that you expect people who live on $50 a month to take a plane to the UK. The horsecart will be here in a month, so brace yourself Sheila!!

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      • 263

        The reason they didn’t turn up on Jan 1 2014 is because visa restrictions were lifted Jan 1 2007 had you been at Dover on Jan 1 2007 you would have seen coach load after coach load of Romanians turning up.

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    • 90
      Prime Minister David Cameron says:

      26 Million Brits live on the breadline, Thanks to the Tories, Just rejoice at that news.

      http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/330027/26-Million-Brits-live-on-the-breadline … …

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        Toxic Labour for Spongers, Parasites, Immigrants and Criminals says:

        This is bollocks, if they prioritised their spending there would be no problem. There is no poverty in this country only relative poverty compared to high earners.

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        • 119
          Anonymous says:

          “There is no poverty in this country”. Well, there goes your credibility. Goodbye!

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          • lojolondon says:

            The man with no name and no signature says you lack credibility… gutted!

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          • Charlie says:

            Look at poverty preWW1: people living in work house. Many people are poor because they have not made best use of schools and many well paid jobs disappeared to computer aided manufacture and design. electronics and computers are so advanced that there are now excavators which are 1m wide and therefor undertake work previously done by several labourers.

            Very few people have considered how changes in technology and trade will impact on employment.

            When India became independent, it was the end of the lancashire cotton industry because the country wanted to weave it’s fabric.

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          • Intellectual Pygmy says:

            Mass unfettered immigration designed to drive down labour costs, helping businesses to make more profit. Labour did that.

            Destruction of the countries finances through an accumulation of debt used to massively increase future state spending on public service pay and pensions. Labour did that too.

            Labour are no friends of the working class.

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      • 102
        I don't believe it says:

        Are any of these the incredibly fat ones who barge past me in ASDA with overflowing trolleys and mobiles clamped to their ears?

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      • 134
        Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

        So they won’t be needing the council run gyms that Ms Berger says are closing because of the cuts.

        One day Labour are saying that food banks are needed as people are starving then the next day that gyms are closing and the obese can’t get the exercise they need

        God save us from the modern politician.

        Always remember there have been no cuts in overall public spending since Cameron came to power, quite the opposite it is still out of control and the national debts grows daily.

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      • 249
        Vlad the Loudhailer says:

        That’s virtually every others person. So Labour really did trash the country more than most realise. Miliband must be proud.

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    • 162
      lojolondon says:

      In case you believe the MSM angle that the UK is uniquely anti these benefit tourists – here is an article you will never see in the Guardian / BBC – or any mainstream media outlet : http://www.thelocal.de/20140103/fingerprints-for-foreigners-call-sparks-outcry

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      • 235
        World Traveller says:

        This is a very good idea. If you go to Malaysia, at the immigration counter they take prints of your two index fingers which register themselves in the computer database along with your passport etc details. In exchange you get a little sticker thingy attached to your passport. When you leave the country you have to repeat the process at the immigration desk to prove you are who you claim to be.

        For the locals they use their thumbprint to get through the electronic gate (their prints having been taken when they pick up their passports)

        What’s not to like?

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  2. 2
    Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:

    I am an environmentalist.

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      fido says:

      there’s a pile of fido’s eggs on the pavement outside – to which government dept/agency should this be reported?

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      Psyche the Dog says:

      How many of the total staff Guido are managers and higher ups with cracking salaries and the proportion that have to clear drains, repair breached river banks, etc, in other words to do the dirty, hands on stuff. Management has always had a habit of looking after it’s own, 33 years ago when I was working in a private steel works there were 6 technical managers and 14 technicians after I was made redundant there were 6 technical managers and 6 technicians.

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  3. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Does this include lower state level agencies and funding? The UK is more centralised than most – comparisons often make no sense (particularly with the US) unless all state levels are included.

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      FFS says:

      I think it works the other way around!

      Much of what the “Environment Agency” does overlaps severely with other agencies, such as local councils, water companies, etc. I’m guessing you could cut 90% of it without noticing any difference at all.

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      • 87
        You're not wrong says:

        Quite so.

        For my sins I worked for a local authority for 5 years in the nineties.

        They employed one council employee, for every 10 residents. When I suggested one employee could do all the required work for 100 residents easily, I was met with derision and abuse.

        The council in question, was at the time, a flagship Tory borough in London.

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  4. 5
    Vlad the Loudhailer says:

    What happened to “a bonfire of the quangos”, oh I forgot Cameron is the heir to Blair. Make an announcement and the jobs done.

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    • 19
      Faceless Bureaucrat says:

      ‘Bonfire of the Quangos’?
      Oh, that was another of Dave’s ‘Cast Iron Guarantees’ that turned to dog s**t along with the redrawing of Constituency Boundaries (a decision that will cost the Tories the next Election).
      Still, at least Gay Marriage will be a sure-fire vote winner with the Tory grassroots – for UKIP…

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      • 58
        Anonymous says:

        The “redrawing of Constituency Boundaries ” was stopped by Clegg.He well knew it would cost the Tories the next Election.
        Hopefully it will result also in the forecast,& much needed,demise of the libdems.

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        • 91
          Oh Really? says:

          Err, remind us all again who Nick Clegg’s boss is.

          Cameron could have called Clegg’s bluff and put it to the House anyway and made Clegg look like the teacherous, buggins turn rat he is.

          But as usual Cameron spine turned to jelly.

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          • Not Dame Lawrence of Arabia says:

            Yes. Such a move may well have led to a vote of (no) confidence and a new election. Then (but probably not now) Cameron would have won a clear majority and could have cast the Libdums into the outer wilderness (where they truly belong).

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          • Intellectual Pygmy says:

            Or Labour and Lib Dem MP’s could have defeated the government bill making it more difficult for the Tories to propose boundary changes in the future.

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    • 29
      John Major(Minor) says:

      The bonfire of the quangos went the same way as the cones hotline.

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      • 73
        mr badger says:

        it is incumbent on all tories to lie and lie and lie – they have no evidence even of their own existence and in the words of iain duncan donut – if i believe then i am – it’s the rest of us that suffer their nastiness

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        • 93
          Oh Really? says:

          Nastiness?

          If your definition of nastiness, is living within your means and not sponging a lifestyle choice off of others, then I’m all for nastiness.

          Though somehow I doubt it is.

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          • ShitStirrer says:

            hello donkey – your turn next

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          • Intellectual Pygmy says:

            These feckers think Santa would vote Labour because he delivers free stuff to little children. They don’t think about how Santa would create billions of fucking presents if he had to actually finance their production through taxation.

            Free money for all with little or no thought for how to pay for it.

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      Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

      +1000

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  5. 7
    Anonymous says:

    Guido, your phrase “to protest job cuts” is American English. In British English it is “to protest ABOUT job cuts”.

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    • 17
      Lord Stansted says:

      How do you know it wasn’t Brit English originally. Many words and much usage that we have forgotten returns to the Mother Country after leaving in the 17th., 18th. Centuries.

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      • 100
        Adam Smith says:

        The fact is that “protest” is not a transitive verb in UK usage.

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        • 155
          Psyche the Dog says:

          Your Scottish, Adam.

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          • Expat Geordie says:

            It should be “you’re Scottish, Adam”. However when Smith was alive he would probably have referred to himself as a “North Briton” as Scots were considered to be potential traitors.

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    Vote? I nearly paid my licence fee says:

    £1 billion per annum budget – what’s it all spent on other than leaflets?

    Mind you, the BBC gets £3.7 billion p.a.

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    Lord Stansted says:

    They should have remained in Wallingford making models of rivers.

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    BarryW says:

    It is not that it is over staffed as such, but over staffed with managers, tree huggers, environmentalists etc etc and not enough JCB dredger drivers etc.
    We have a lot of coast/rivers and rain

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      Mornington Crescent says:

      Ditto the Met Office: ram packed with Climate Change scammers who know (yeah!) what the weather is going to do in 100 years’ time and not enough proper meteorologists who can prise themselves away from their computer screens and tell me – accurately – what it’s going to do in 6 fucking hours’ time.

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    Lazarus of Atos says:

    Ammaz Qureshi, 35, of North London is said to have told his Norwegian mistress to punish the one-year-old girl when the baby’s cries interrupted their chat. Married Qureshi is facing charges of premeditated murder and assault in Oslo after being extradited from Britain in December 2012, and is accused of masterminding months of abuse against the child……………..

    So is this another year of the same group always “big” on punishment or another 100 years?

    How many Christians to be murdered/ displaced etc etc.

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    • 217
      ShitStirrer says:

      ah don’t ya just love dem christians – they never did any plunderin’ and murder did they??????????

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  10. 13

    Environment Troughing Agency, innit?

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    • 27
      Harry Gimblett says:

      I was born in Somerset many moons ago.

      Yes it does flood a lot around the River Severn when it rains during high tides.

      If you live there you sleep upstairs and don’t leave anything of value on the ground floor.

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        Psyche the Dog says:

        Because the planners are told by builders that they want to build houses on that nice flat land near a river, would fetch a high price etc trouble is a lot of these houses have been built on flood plains which were probably noted as Liable to flooding on maps years ago OS 1st series (1855)

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    • 75
      leapy lee says:

      Let’s do what we always do.Say that were going to slash their budget ,get rid of thousands in non jobs,save the country billions but at the end of the day do NOTHING.

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  11. 14
    Mitch says:

    Some organisations we know can function with 66% less staff and still be as good as the old days..

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  12. 15
    Ariel Sharon says:

    My name is Tallulah.

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  13. 20
    PICKFORDS REMOVALS (Van for a Mr Cameron) says:

    Could we not stack them all up along the river bank , so they actually do what we pay them for ? What !

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  14. 23
    David Cameron says:

    Cuts in the Public Sector?!!! I haven’t finished taxing you lot yet. Once I’ve done that I might get round to actually making some spending cuts. So just pay up and stop moaning.

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      Oh Really? says:

      Is that the same David Cameron who said before the 2010 elections that ‘ I didn’t come into politics to cut anything’?

      He obviously wasn’t lying then for a change, was he?

      By 2015, Labour looters record debt, will have doubled under this rotten coalition and my childrens children, will be paying it off, all their lives.

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  15. 25
    Public Sector Shirker says:

    I suspect if you cut deep you’ll improve the service as it means the agency gets rid of a lot of deadwood drongos.

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    • 30
      Unlikely says:

      No, most of the deadwood drongos are at the top of the tree.

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    • 30
      Lazarus of Atos says:

      So the professional work dodgers who inhabit workstations in their millions, expert at shortening the day, periods before public holidays a particular speciality, absolute thiefs who should be locked up, are in 2014 in for a bit of a shake up.

      Cut deeep. Promote Frankie for the job after he`s ejected the pilgrims.

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  16. 32
    albacore says:

    Ah, come on, Guido, do have a heart
    That Agency is a vital part
    Of the LibLabCon lead-swingers’ art
    Telling folks when and where they can fart

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    Stinks of an honour ******* says:

    The poor girl is probably the victim of an honour you know what.

    The sister of teenager Nida Ul-Naseer, missing from her home for six days, has made an emotional appeal for her to come home. Nilah Anwar said the family in Newport “miss Nida desperately” and stressed she was not in any trouble. Gwent Police say Nida, 18, had an argument at home which could have upset her.

    On a completely unrelated subject, the family of this poor girl also pleaded for her to return home. Her parents were later convicted of her murder.

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    • 47
      FFS says:

      That’s what I thought. Went missing putting the bins out? More likely they’ve done her in or she’s run off with her white boyfriend.

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      • 55
        Stinks of an honour ******* says:

        The former. If it was the latter, the “putting out the bins” scenario wouldn’t have been mentioned.

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  18. 35
    UKIP or bust says:

    On the 1st news from the Bbbc this morning “Climate change is becoming more serious because the amount of flood warnings issued by the met office was up considerably on last year”

    WTF, so presumably if they issue more bollox flood warnings this year it will mean that ‘climate change’ is worse still!

    Flood warnings are not floods you pack of sponging NWO socialist parasites.

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    • 60
      This New meme needs to be nipped in the bud says:

      All that’s happened is ONE storm surge has now generated hundreds of localised warnings. Not because the weather or climate has changed but because the technology ie Google Earth has changed. And it is criminal to claim that a new data system is a sign of global warming.

      Where before one storm surge resulted in one UK wide warning now one storm surge produces a flood of warnings.

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      • 70
        Tomasz Shafernackers V says:

        Most of today’s floods seemed more to do with spring tides than anything else. Only a strong breeze here in Murkeyside, certainly no gales.

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    • 86
      The BBC says:

      There were never any floods, hurricanes or snow before 1974.

      And there was no heat wave in 1976 either.

      The BBC – we are right, because we say so.

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      • 104
        Oh Really? says:

        The government and BBC, claimed 2012 was a drought year.

        For most of it there were hosepipe bans everywhere for months on end.

        The Bollocks Broadcasting Corporation, put that down to ‘climate change’ too.

        If we get some snow this winter, the BBC ‘severe weather caused by climate change’ will go into overdrive.

        I really don’t think they realise how childishly idiotic, they are making themselves look.

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        • 153
          Anonymous says:

          Funny how the BBC are desperate to avoid mentioning it is the middle of summer in antartica where the boat full of eco-warmists is stuck in the ice

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          • Not Dame Lawrence of Arabia says:

            All this weather stuff must be affecting their brains.

            Am I the only one to notice constant mis-spellings in the BBC foot of the screen runners? Examples last week were: “Autralian” and “recieved”. From the comment above, they also appear not to know the different usages of ‘amount’ and ‘number’.

            Or maybe they just employ thick illiterate offspring of senior managers to do the typing.

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          • Not Dame Lawrence of Arabia says:

            Oh and PS: Out here in the sticks there really is no requirement to pay the telly tax either. So I don’t.

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    • 172
      Psyche the Dog says:

      Please, you can rest assured that there is NO GLOBAL WARMING, Guido has given his personal own cast iron guarantee , rest assured. How far has the Thames got to rise above the Embankment and then it is downhill all the way, once in the tube, never mind, you can sleep safe with Guido’s cast iron guarantee.

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      • 207
        Grwq says:

        The reason for the Thames barrier is not rising sea levels. It is there to protect London from land sinkage.

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  19. 36

    The answer is simple.

    Privatise it.

    Then we can see how well they can perform and how much in demand their expensive services are.

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      Casual Observer 5 says:

      I like the cut of that jib, but the Environment Agency must surely qualify as one of those services which the private sector would have no interest in ?

      Public sector doesn’t need one quite this large though.

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      • 127

        Google the words: Environment Agency

        On the very top line of 390m results, it comes up with:

        UK government agency concerned mainly with rivers, flooding, and pollution, in other words, the beginnings of a mission statement, but only the beginnings!

        OK, we know we have to visit the site to read it properly, so we hit on the link…

        Can’t find those words on the page at all! Can’t click through to any page which has them. OK, let’s try the search box. I always group words which I know to be in the right order within inverted commas, as it cuts down on irrelevant finds.:


        Search was unable to find any results for “UK government agency concerned mainly with rivers, flooding, and pollution…”, you may have typed your word incorrectly, or are being too specific.

        No I am not being too specific! I am using your very own formulation, EA! Where is your mission statement? Have you become a secret society?

        I do see a fatuous message declaring “creating a better place” with all the inherent problems of what exactly is meant by “better”. I also see the normal Common Purpose “Equality and diversity” link, as if that is more important than what they were created for. If one is bold enough to click on this, there are pages of propaganda which does more than state that they observe the law of the land.

        There are no less than seven .pdfs one may download to see statistics on this and one may read about bisexual and transgendered people until the cows come home, which might create environmental questions all of itself…

        But all I want to know is a very simple question:

        What are you here for?

        If they cannot tell me this immediately then I have good cause to believe that they cannot serve any practical purpose at all. Apart, of course, from lining their own pockets and pursuing their own political agenda.

        Isn’t my request the epitome of reasonableness?

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        • 142
          P. Doff says:

          Yes

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          • Thank you, kind sir.

            Though I should have stated If one is bold enough to click on this, there are pages of propaganda which does no more than state that they observe the law of the land.

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        • 173
          Casual Observer 5 says:

          You raise a very good point on the Google description.

          Allow me to illuminate you a little on the darks arts of Search Engine optimization.

          You probably know that Google bot goes around looking for sites and filling in the Google index. The main description for a link is usually taken from the sites ‘title’ tag – which displays in the browsers title bar on some systems.

          Now – the description underneath is a bit more involved.

          That is usually taken in part from a meta tag labelled ‘Description’ – this is a tag which you do not see on the front end (unless you look at the source), but the Google bot does pay attention to.

          There are other factors as well: The Google algorithm for figuring out a summary description will also grab text from the page itself which it determines as being relevant – cross checking with other pages that may reference.

          I checked through the internet archive and could not find that specific text (it will be there somewhere – but this does suggest that Google haven’t properly crawled the site in a while), but back in 2010 they had this for description:

          ‘We are the main environmental regulator for England and Wales. We implement government policy, inspect and regulate businesses, warn people about flooding and build flood defences. We react in an emergency like a flood or pollution incident.’

          Haven’t check to see if that came down in response to the floods the other year.

          Now – I make no challenge to your questions and claims about the environment agency itself, however I would suggest that they are a jobsworth ‘vapour’ Q’uango which doesn’t actually do anything or have any form of accountability, but does consume a lot of public funds and pushes the common purpose agenda.

          Why public monies intended to be used for environmental protection are being used on promoting diversity and the other abhorrent stuff they have clearly budgeted well for is a mystery.

          But then I do not work in the public sector. :-)

          To their current Google description – on the matter of ‘what’s in your backyard’ ? The answer to the EA is: None of your fucking business. ;-)

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          • The fact is that they only work in the public sector in so far as they are in receipt of funds from our taxed monies.

            Glad to see your mastery of the HTML and in particular the finishing statement made in bold! Quite right too. ;-)

            I would make one other observation. To get to that degree of prominence i.e. first out of 390m, in all probability they will have to pay a large sum of spondulicks to Messrs Google.

            Now, remind me again, who pays for the Environment Agency?

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          • Casual Observer 5 says:

            Maybe, but then they do have their keywords (another Meta tag) set up to be:

            Environment, Agency, Regulation

            And that has been the case going back over 10 years.

            I suspect that Google may bias rankings results partly by domain, and they are on a .gov And then you have hits – the army they have working there, when not surfing for p0rn, probably are under orders to spend most of the working day googling their own home page and clicking on the link.

            To your point though, on $ to Google, the UK Govt. may pay a block amount to ensure that .gov remains high ranking.

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          • Casual Observer 5 says:

            Oh – and first out of 390m ?

            Try clicking through – you will probably find results peter out after about 30 pages or so. At about 10 results per page, a number closer to 300 is more likely.

            Google cache hit counts are a bit like US house numbering from the Cold War: Are there really 50,000 properties on X Street Nomansville, or did they just start numbering from 49,998 ?
            ;-)

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          • Another analogy is Britain’s unfunded Old Age pension scheme.

            Every pensioner is guaranteed a weekly income for as long as they shall live.

            Now let us go looking for it… Not in this pot, nor in this one, dear dear, Min, you can’t get the wood, you know …

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          • FFS says:

            Send the whole of the EA on garden leave, then see what happens. If there is a problem, start calling them back.

            I’m guessing you’ll hardly call any of them back.

            I think perhaps we could do this with all the quangos.

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    • 175
      Psyche the Dog says:

      The trouble is that it would be like the railway system, folks used to moan and groan about BR about its services and cost of tickets and the susidies it got, now it is privatised, how much more do tickets cost and the multiple of BR subsidies do the rail companies get, and still folks are moaning.

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      • 253
        2112 says:

        That’s comparing apples to oranges. Many people rely on the railway network to get to where they want to go, and so they have to make use of the service regardless of who owns it. How many peopel would even notice if the Environment Agency changed hands?

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  20. 37
    Vazdazzle says:

    They are even more greasy than me.

    http://www.insidetheenvironmentagency.co.uk/

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  21. 38
    Rightwinggit says:

    They’re too busy swanning around telling people what they can’t do, like dredge at Cockermouth etc., that’s why we’ve got floods.

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  22. 39
    Vazdazzle says:

    Sorry can’t read.

    Its in Guido’s report.

    I am even more stupid than I thought.

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  23. 40
    Round the Bend says:

    Who designed this agency and who allowed it to get this big.

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    • 88
      Linda Barker says:

      I designed the interior, and got paid thousands

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    • 170
      Mine d'Boggles says:

      I think it was the amalgamation of all county council water boards and rivers authorities. What that means is that before amalgamation our local rivers were kept in order, alders were felled , and so on. After amalgamation, we get localised flooding (not seriou) because no maintenance is done any more.

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      • 230
        FFS says:

        Yes, I think these were the people that used to dredge out the brooks and streams, then they got amalgamated into one and report to the national government, which means they do as they please in effect. But what I don’t understand is now it seems the local councils are cleaning out the brooks and streams using your regular council employees.

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    • 254
      stushie says:

      The EA combined the National Rivers Authority (highly competent) & The Pollution Inspectorate too cosy with industry & a hot bed of underused Ph D’s.
      The Waste Inspectors were chucked in too.They were largely timeservers who couldn’t believe their luck at the juicy promotions they bagged.
      A total bloody balls up.
      To compound it, plunk a useless politician in as ‘Chair’

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  24. 42
    Stalag 15 says:

    There is no shortage of money at the environment agency. They have ruined a country walk in Cornwall with a no expenses spared 4 mile long fence to protect walkers from 6″deep puddles.

    http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Fence-makes-park-like-PoW-camp/story-15364332-detail/story.html#axzz2pM3gbLYL

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  25. 43
    Casual Observer 5 says:

    With an environment agency that large, how can anyone who cares about the UK be described as a little Englander ? That’s huge !

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  26. 48
    william says:

    Here on the River Arun, they arrive daily, in brand new top of the range 4by 4s,three vehicles, each with 2 men, to do not a lot for the day, and then bugger off at 3 pm. This has gone on for 17 years

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    • 56
      AT LAST the Light shines on the EA says:

      So it’s not just here then. Thanks. Yes they really do have the best equipment money can buy and yes they never travel in less than pairs and yes I have noticed it too.

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    • 255
      stushie says:

      You’re Lucky .The Kings Lynn lot stroll along the beach mob handed,avoiding eye contact while they stifle grins at their cushy numbers.

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    • 62
      Blue Peter Goldfish says:

      Getting very confused, climate change, global warming and just weather, amazing how the snake oil salesmen continue to get away with it, roll up, roll up get your carbon emission discounts here! (It’s the next best scam since the last Ponzi scheme).

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      • 168
        Simples says:

        Originally it was “Global Warming” (remember the hockey-stick graphs?).

        But when reality failed to cooperate with their computer models and it didn’t get any warmer, it was hastily re-branded “Climate Change”.

        Except the climate didn’t change either, so now we have “Climate Disruption” so they can blame us whether it gets warmer, colder, wetter or drier.

        They can’t admit they got it wrong, or all that lovely govermnent funding will suddenly disappear!

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  28. 50
    ancientpopeye says:

    I remember talking to an old river-board man and him telling me that he walked the bank with his gang and if they found a potential leak they would plug it with withies.
    Then the environmental agency was formed, these old guys were phased out and the new came in, all equipped with range rovers in which they would observe.
    If they even saw a problem (which I doubt) they would note it and it maybe would be sorted later, usually after the bank had breached and flooded the area.
    That’s what they call progress folks.

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  29. 52
    Canute says:

    I find their advice not to go swimming in the sea in January, not to drive into deep floods, and not to walk along seafronts when giant waves are sweeping in, to be particularly valuable and useful. I always check whether warnings are red or amber, or possibly other colours. They need more resources.

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    • 99
      more Environmental Agency advise says:

      Quite agree more resources.
      Leaves, wrong snow, winds you say it all have their detrimental effect on our railways which we need advice on what to do. A 100,000 miles to be assessed hourly needs people on the line.

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      • 221
        Rowan Ash says:

        These would the people who keep getting hit by trains and who thereby cause all the delays, right ?

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    • 257
      Let's do history says:

      You do know that Canute was one of the wisest of English (well, Danish) kings and that the point he was making when telling the tide to retreat was that he wanted his retinue to know his disdain for flattery and his recognition of the limits of the power of monarchs?

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  30. 53
    Bravo to Order Order says:

    I am glad you have high lighted this Guido. The Environment agency spends money like a drunken sailor on shore leave down Union Street.

    They appear to be totally out of control and constantly play the unbeatable Green eco card when there is no justifiable reason to do so.

    They also seem to have statutory powers of unbelievable privilege that no ordinary person or other government agency can challenge.

    Of all the government quangos this is the one that has gone under the radar for far too long and has literally got away with blue murder.

    WELL DONE SIR.

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  31. 57
    widescreen2010 says:

    Nice work if you can still get it..!

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  32. 61
    Tony London says:

    Did not Mr Cameron say he had got rid of loads of useless Quangos which were going to save the taxpayer 20 % of their money ?

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  33. 63
    Casual Observer 5 says:

    Interesting interview on the subject of Obamacare, and how the younger generation in US are essentially rejecting it:

    The interesting takeaway points from the spokesman is that mood among the younger generation is very much as follows:

    Why should my health care premiums go up to cover the increased health care costs of the older generation ?

    This has an interesting echo to the shifting mood in Australia, where the younger generation have just about had enough of increasing house prices, mainly on the principal that they do not understand why they should be transferring their wealth to an already wealthy older generation.

    Perhaps this shift is long overdue in the UK ? There are signs of similar sentiment emerging in the Eurozone, and bizarrely in !srael.

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  34. 64
    Union of Arseholes says:

    All this environmental crap is a big con! Green tax for this, non job for him, promotion to department of sweet fa for her. It is a joke! Not a funny one, just an expensive waste of time!

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  35. 65
    Brillo says:

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    • 74
      Hargaret Modge, Labour MP and Hypocritical serial long term aggressive Tax Avoider + expenses thief says:

      Oh go on
      go on
      go on.

      The EU gets something right for once? ….Nah still want it to die a slow painful death, well painful anyway ..quick and painful would be good.

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      • 240
        Not Dame Lawrence of Arabia says:

        2020??? Why wait until this evening to do it? Stop it now, at once, immediately, pronto, without delay…

        Like

    • 79
      Blue Peter Goldfish says:

      A wind farm subsidy cut would be good, who should we start with… President José Manuel Barroso…Rumpey Pumpey?.

      Like

    • 125
      Chuckabrick says:

      Me neither. I still don’t believe it, but I do want to. I need to read the story again.

      Like

    • 129
      HEARDITALLSEENITALLBEFORE says:

      We all know that what Brussels wants Brussels gets

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    • 212

      All the proof we need that wind farms are not an answer to anything.

      Brussels is certainly a gigantic wind subsidy all of its own.

      Some of the wind is passed upwards but much is passed downwards, on account of all those expensive lunches and dinners, paid for by us.

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  36. 66
    Penfold says:

    News reports are now saying that the job cuts are 15%.

    I thought we had inflation under control?

    Like

  37. 68
    Pax Amerika says:

    Why do we keep getting updates on what the weather is like in the US.

    Why not in Russia or China?

    Like

    • 84
      Sea weed says:

      Because our weather mostly comes in from the west. That big storm over the states will be here next. They get it as snow and we then get it as rain, been like that since…forever.

      Then when the East wind doth blow we get Snow.

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    • 89
      leapy lee says:

      Now as regards these enviromentalists stuck in the ice in Antartica in the middle of summer.A story not covered much on the BBC.
      If their ship is crushed by the ice and sinks,will the resulting pollution be their fault or will Jeremy Clarkson be to blame?

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      • 179
        The Met Office says:

        No, it will be climate change denialist icebergs.

        They had no way to expect that ice to be there using our current models.

        Of course, they could have used the near-real-time satellite imagery available to them, but that is awfully crude and too much like ‘reality’ which has a known right-wing bias.

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  38. 71
    Hargaret Modge, Labour MP and Hypocritical serial long term aggressive Tax Avoider + expenses thief says:

    Plenty more quangoes for that long awaited Camerloon bonfire.

    Potato Marketing Board.
    Milk Marketing Board
    Welsh Ofice

    and so forth

    http://www.lawfulrebellion.org/2010/10/17/200-uk-quangos-extinguished-whilst-the-eu-fire-rages-on/

    Burn baby burn!

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  39. 76
    mr badger says:

    how funny it is to see david bernstein – latterly the ceo of the football association – a week after becoming a lord, thanks to daveyboy – slaagging off football managers – another torychewboy

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    • 85
      Jack Ketch says:

      But Bernstein is right. The outrageously piggish behaviour that we see on the pitch and on the touchline never existed before all the foreigners were allowed to be players and managers of our teams. Hooliganism was confined to the terraces.

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  40. 96
    Anon. says:

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  41. 107
    Anon. says:

    Update.

    Akademik Shokalskiy still stuck in ice :oops:

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    • 117
      Anon. says:

      How much is all this costing and who’s paying?
      More help on the way…

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    • 124
      Brillo says:

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      • 133
        #SendTheBillToTurney says:

        “Turney Gang”

        LOL!

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      • 183
        JH23890234-023 says:

        Who is going to pay for all this shit?

        The ‘Russian ship’ (which was NOT there on a global warming climate change propaganda puff-piece mission, oh no) has already suffered above-waterline damage. Who knows what it is like below the water line?

        It can’t sail through the roughest seas in the world in that state. While designed for polar conditions, it is no icebreaker and could be crushed like a coke can any time now.

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        • 199
          Greenpeace says:

          Can we help?

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          • ... from the Society of Experts...I says:

            We should send all our MPs and Grundian/Daily Mirror journalists (esp Motormouth McGuire) down there to assist. All the hot air they spout will surely melt 3 metres of solid pack ice withing a matter of minutes.

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  42. 108
    LimpDick says:

    what is it about so-called modern, free thinking tories that makes them want to censor everything?

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  43. 110
    Anonymous says:

    Could the Environment Agency be the ONE quango that we actually need, albeit a slimmed down version thereof?

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    • 184
      East India Company Wallah says:

      no
      entirely useless
      they are simply a monitoring service,flood defence should be the responsibility of the local authority,this agency was set up as a foil to keep the complaints diverted away from central government/local authorities
      Ford will miss the 4×4 sales

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    • 251
      Charlie says:

      Yes but one with competent staff. Most of the competent staff had taken retirement by mid by about 2005. Massive decline in staff competence due to retirement and leaving from about 1995. Need few really expert staff and plenty of monitoring technicians.
      I would suggest each county at most had one experts in flooding , contaminated soil and water, groundwater , water resources , zoology and botany plus few HNC technicians. The problem is that there too many environmental scientists with poor science knowledge and too many fiddling flexi-time/home working.

      What is needed are few scientists /engineers who are very good and plenty of HNC technicians( chemistry/civil engineering trained) recording data. What the EA has are masses of environmental scientists from poor universities.

      There has been accurate monitoring since the early 1800s.Part of the problem is that data has been lost, people have forgotten and people have retired/left and the knowledge has left with them.

      The first step is to publish everyone in the EAs job description, CV, work record – holidays, flexi-time, illness and see where the money is being spent.

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  44. 113
    Adam Smith says:

    “Equivalent quangos in the rest of the world are much smaller”? But the EA is responsible for far more than the pollution protection which is all that its counterparts are doing, and over two-thirds of its budget goes on flood prevention. As I said in Chapter 8 of my interesting book “An Inquiry into the Wealth of Nations”, if people are overworked they are less efficient and less effective. We need to be cautious about cuts to the EA, and make sure we get it right: the deaths in the current round of flooding highlight this.

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    • 122
      the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

      it is not true to say that “if people are over worked they are less efficient and less effective”. I do not know where you got this from but having worked and observed people working all the waking hours and more I can tell you that in those employments thinking becomes very focused on the job in hand. But then you have to want to do it.

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    • 223
      FFS says:

      “over two-thirds of its budget goes on flood prevention”

      Mmmmm. Seems like that was money wasted as well.

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  45. 114
    Universal Hiss says:

    They are all Great Cnuts.

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  46. 116
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    so Scargill was right then when he said that there was a secret plan to close pits ?
    It’s a bit of a shame that someone’s ideology ( fear of working class being organized) gets us where we are today, not very much coal mining and a load of fucking useless windmills

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    • 130
      Universal Hiss says:

      Being a bit of a leftie at that time I was always annoyed that no one could give me the definition of what was an uneconomic pit.Thatcher was I thought besotted by the nuclear lobby & I was against this because of my own ignorance.It’s rather ironic that now coal is dirty & nuclear is good in the eyes of the Marxist greenies.

      Looking back I was a total idiot. The point was not about coal mines but the destruction of an elected government by a Marxist elite in the NUM who had neither their members or the countries interest at heart. These people had to be destroyed.

      She was right. I was totally wrong.

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      • 143
        the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

        did you know any miners ?

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        • 150
          the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

          they said, ” we do not need these pits, we can import coal so much cheaper from Poland”. How foresighted was that ?
          It is nonsense, I think, to say Marxists were trying to bring down the government, can you really imagine a Marxist England ? please be serious.

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          • Hamish Macbeth says:

            At least we are still sat on a load of coal for when the oil runs out and Russia turns off the gas

            Like

          • the MSM says:

            Rather it would have been better to retain important things in public ownership and to trust the people rather than to plunder the national family silver for the benefit of Johnny Foreigner.
            Who is the patriot ?
            Someone who loves his neighbours but is misguided politically or someone with whom you might agree in words but who hates the populace ?

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          • Ann Thracite says:

            Better yet, Hamish, we’ve got plenty of Poles over here already to mine our remaining coal.

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          • FFS says:

            The decline in coal production started in about 1930 and was more or less linear until 1990. During the Thatcher years the decline in coal production was slightly lower.

            There is a fascinating compilation of UK statistics you will find here:-

            http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/briefing-papers/RP99-111/a-century-of-change-trends-in-uk-statistics-since-1900

            It tells you the whole truth about coal production and many other facts of British life. You will find plenty to criticise Thatcher about, but not closing the pits.

            Unless you find facts disturbing?

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    • 222
      FFS says:

      Yep. I remember Blair falling over himself to re-open all those pits and get those jolly miners back in the work which they loved so much.

      Meanwhile, back in reality…….

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  47. 120
    RomaBob....we benefit you! says:

    Can we Romas help, we work for less :)

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    • 159
      Pick litter for bennies says:

      The Roma women with 27 layers of clothes looks to be more useful than a sandbags.

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  48. 135
    tigerowl says:

    Tell the people who are in danger of being flooded that there are too many working for the Environment Agency. Need many more and a big programme of building defences instead of a silly train line between London and Birmingham costing billions. Must be no danger of Number ten flooding or there would be no cuts.

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    • 215
      Pick litter for bennies says:

      Sorry,as a taxpayer i,m funding the Indian and Nigerian space programmes so no money for you Johnny Englander.

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  49. 139
    Our Nige says:

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    • 141
      Maggie Fan says:

      Let’s face it…no one in their right mind was going to fuck with Maggie.

      She wasn’t called the Iron Lady for nothing.

      Like

      • 154
        the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

        I read that people who voted against her in the first ballot told her that they voted for her but in the second round they would be voting against her. This false tally made her resign rather than face defeat.

        Like

    • 195
      i don't n eed no doctor says:

      Nigel 49 million reasons to not vote UKIP.

      Like

  50. 144
    Useless public sector numptie says:

    There’s hardly any NDPB, quango or devolved agency left where I can do very little while awaiting the gold-played pension.

    Thank goodness Labour will be back in 2015!

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  51. 145
    The veryy useful Environment Agency says:

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    • 149
      RomaBob....we benefit you! says:

      Really? Stating the bleeding obvious, so how much did that cost the taxpayer ??

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  52. 146
    The very useful Environment Agency says:

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  53. 147
    The very useful Environment Agency says:

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    • 148
      the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

      cue loads of picks of overfull kettles, sinks and kitty bowls

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    • 188
      More like says:

      Do you have photos of flooding in the UK? Add them to our Flickr group to help us extort more money for our posh offices, working lunches and brand new fully liveried vehicles.

      Like

      • 194
        the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

        I was driving down some Devon country road in my beat up range rover stuck behind half a dozen brand new black SUVs driving in convoy. I thought what are they doing around here ?
        These were probably the same bunch, I heard later, turned up at a farm and said ” we do not believe you how many sheep you say you have”
        ” Well they are there in the field and on the hill, you go count them”
        ” Cue several EU farm Donks running about the hill in the gloom trying to count spooked sheep”

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  54. 158
    Billie says:

    isNt thois blog just anachronistic dinosaur leftover from nawties guido?

    Like

  55. 161
    Anonymous says:

    Speaking of staff cuts…this blog has not got obviously better since it expanded from the old days. Weild the axe Staines :-)

    Like

  56. 165
    Ah! Monika says:

    Radio 4 Earlier

    “The Scots are looking forward to the referendum…

    The only opportunity they will have to fill in a form, without first having to remove their shoe-laces and belts”

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  57. 169
    Anonymous says:

    I have no problems as long as they all move to London.

    Like

  58. 174
    Cycling with Dave says:

    Hello Voters
    as you will know, for your own protection, I am going to censor the Internet shortly. but hey, don’t worry, because I’m setting up alternatives for you to ‘tune into’ – the first one being my very own site called ‘Cycling with Camo’ – the site will include allsorts of merry entertainment, good British wholesome family fun with a shop for all that cycling wear and a celebrity photo folder where you can watch me with my friends.
    So, off we go – who said I’m worse than China, I love Britain and the British people – wahayyyyyyyyyyy

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  59. 176
    Billie says:

    found a couple of new trackers guido !!

    Like

    • 185
      Anon says:

      They’ll find a cure for cancer before they rid my blog of trackers, Billie.

      Like

      • 187
        Billie says:

        this blog is cancer with little tracker nodules then?

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      • 220
        FFS says:

        Don’t be silly. They will never find an actual cure for cancer, not when they are making so much money out of chemotherapy.

        Haven’t you noticed that they’ve lost interest in finding a cure for HIV now they have an expensive long-term drug therapy?

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        • 245
          Stating the bleeding obvious but.. says:

          So, just like the Liebore party. Don’t lift the plebs any higher up the ladder out of the gutter or they might all start voting for the other lot. Likewise the aid agencies. Get everyone out of poverty etc then they become surplus to requirements and no longer wanted on the voyage to the glorious sunlit uplands.

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  60. 178
    Prime Minister David Cameron says:

    Think I may go for a few pints.

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  61. 181
    majorfurstration says:

    The Government should tackle this issue as harshly as they have tackled the “Pilgrims” Sorry cant stop laughing – what a load if idiots. Lets give them all
    peerages and expenses for life and start with a new lot who we can trust.

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  62. 190
    Diane Abbott says:

    I’m bloated, can anything be done?

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  63. 208
    Pick litter for bennies says:

    Just seen Owen Patterson on Sky News,what a media un-savvy idiot.All he needed to say was all the facts Guido stated regarding coastal defences!!

    Like

  64. 232
    Displaced Brummie says:

    The problem is, of course, the bloatees will never be sacked. Only the real workers.

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  65. 234

    The EA is categorically bloated and out of control. There are others out there in quango land that are as bad in different areas but the EA take the biscuit for all-round toxicity. I see some poor fools have been trying to make sense of their web site – silly boys expecting it to be useful and up to date….

    READ the soddin blog

    Their contempt for the law, professional ethics, honesty, transparency is off the clock it’s obvious the nabobs and managers feel omnipotent, untouchable and worth every penny.

    Try this for size £1,300,000 down the crapper on a £150 licence… lose at court, ignore court order, hide evidence , lie, bully, conspire to defraud, delay, lie some more and on and on….

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    • 250
      UKIP to the max says:

      The EA have become the strong arm of EU assimilation, every diktat from the EU gold plated and then enforced without the slightest care about how damaging or expensive or useless, a kapo uniform would fit them perfectly.

      Like

  66. 247
    Tristram Hunt says:

    We never hear anything from Rick Astley these days. It’s almost like he’s given us up, and let us down.

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  67. 258
    Jess The Dog says:

    I think this is comaring apples and pears…the comparators appear to be mostly federal and will have further regional staff at other tiers of government…EU directives and laws drive most European environmental regulation, including England and Wales etc.

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  68. 264
    robert holmes says:

    S o what do you think of the piece in the Private Eye on the agency? Rob Holmes > WordPress.com > Guido Fawkes posted: ” Prospect, the union which represents workers at > the Environment Agency, is taking the opportunity of the floods to > protest job cuts – “The government must call an immediate moratorium > on 1,500 job cuts in the Environment Agency in the light of the flo” >

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