September 7th, 2013

GMB Millions Move Forced Ed’s Weak Hand

GMB Red Ed Ballot Paper

Within days of the GMB canceling their million pound direct debit to the Labour Party, Ed exonerates the unions from undemocratically stitching up MP selections. Brutal power politics at its most raw. Union member witnesses mysteriously withdrew their allegations that they were signed up to the Falkirk Labour Party without their knowledge, Karie Murphy withdraws her candidature and everything is swept under the carpet in time for TUC conference. Ed has bottled it…

The GMB made him leader, they pay the bills, they pull his strings on policy and they have now pulled his leash. Ed’s attempt to stand up to the unions has left him looking weaker…


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    • 2
      Little Boy Blue says:



    • 9
      Expat Geordie says:

      It’s the Golden Rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.


      • 14
        Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

        Gold ? Sold ! :)


        • 284
          Smug git Max says:

          Please don’t forget me, even though I’m keeping a low profile because of er er er er events.


          • broderick crawford says:

            Grumpy dwarf Gordon Strachan has refuted claims he is a garden ornament which has been brought to life through the use of black magic.
            The Scotland manager addressed the issue after his team were bent over and had their liberty taken by a genetically superior Belgium side.

            He said: “I still can’t believe this story keeps coming up.

            “I’m a man, a very small angry man who doesn’t look human…but I am human.

            “Let me take this opportunity to say, I am not a fucking gnome, or a fucking hobbit or one of the supporting characters from Gregory’s Girl. I am me, no one else.”

            A source close to the funny looking Strachan confirmed there will always be questions over his genealogy.

            “No matter what he says or does, people can’t help imaging him dressed as one of Santa’s helpers or a character from Lord of the Rings.

            “His family keep telling him he should be thankful.

            “If the Nazis had won the war, he would probably be performing in a camp somewhere to groups of Japanese and German businessmen, whose moral compasses have been surgically removed by the satanic overlords who have turned the world into a living fucking horror show.”

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      • 15
        Gordon Brown says:

        That’s why I flogged all your gold off cheap, suckers.


        • 37
          V1le disgusting toxic Labour trashed my Country says:

          And why you trashed our Country. All the previous Labour Government Ministers should be executed for treason.


        • 285
          Dr Evil says:

          The mistake was announcing it to the market before you did. Brilliant move.


      • 70
        ciconia says:

        More a case of grab their balls and the rest follows.
        Tears in miliminor’s eyes?


    • 69
      Thunderbirds are go (ish) says:

      So David heads up International Rescue while Ed is a mere puppet on a string.


    • 153
      The allseeing Eye says:

      I was convinced I’d been taken back to McMentals rule listening to Today R4 this am – in fact my special “liar alert” red light started flashing the moment Watson started to speak, he didn’t even attempt to sound as though he was speaking the truth.

      The same utter contempt for anyone not in the Labour bunker and a total disconnect from reality.


    • 253
      Gooey Blob says:

      Labour need a Blairite leader to push through reforms, not this weak union muppet. The question is, are the rank and file happy for someone to lead their party from the centre or would they rather face incompetent but principled annihilation on the left?

      They’re cutting it a bit fine if they still want to win 250 seats in 2015.


    • 490
      D notice says:


    • 521
      The One And Only. says:

      God not fucking allah, whoevre the the fuck he is, twat,


    • 555
      Beast with two Eds says:

      You can’t touch me – I’m the prat of the Union.


  2. 3
    Malcolm Redfellow says:

    Question to be asked (and answered):

    Does Fawkes make it up, or does he take his script from Tory Central?


    • 5
      Watcher says:

      The other way round, twit.


      • 61
        The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

        No he gets his orders from Barak Selfama.


      • 78
        Ma­qboul says:

        The question to be asked is why is Ed allowing Len McLuskey to run the Labour Party?


        • 90
          Just Saying says:

          Even his great friend the BBC are incredulous and have not ignored this near criminal U turn, but are desperately seeking excuses.
          Now Ed is under greater pressure to release the original report. So he will be in deep secretive discussions to redact much of it for public information. Trust Ed to be totally untrustworthy. Even his mother must be in hissing fits.


        • 297
          Len Murray's memories says:

          I’m buggered if I know either


    • 6
      R. Youshore says:

      Nn. Next ?


    • 24
      Gideon says:

      Don’t be silly. he now gets his orders from Rupe Central. he has to dance to his tune or he loses his nice little earner on the Sun, he’s hit the pot of Gold (he seems obsessed with the metal)


      • 34
        Tony Blair (godfather to one of Murdoch's kids and filmed kissing Rebekah) says:

        People who are in Murdoch’s pocket are awful, aren’t they. I’m glad neither myself nor the Labour Party ever had anything to do with him.


    • 56
      Anonymous says:

      Dont shoot the messenger, sort out labour, they are a disgrace.


      • 76
        Labour are splitting says:

        1 : Labour are simply not fit for credible governance.


        • 113
          What a plonker. says:

          Red Ed Miliband just keeps on giving .


        • 306
          Labour Party says:

          That’s OK, we may have no policies, but if we keep stirring up class war and calling the Tories posh and out of touch, we can still pick up enough votes


          • Expat Geordie says:

            That’s a good one. Point out to Labour voters that the only post war party after Atlee’s Labour Party to care about the working classes was Thatcher’s (and to a lesser extent Major’s) Conservatives and they all have seizures, lie down and go on the sick.


      • 525
        The One And Only. says:

        udwhGo fuck yourselve


    • 522
      ALLAH says:

      Syrians all the children should be first.


  3. 7
    Scottish Chav says:

    back to the future 1970’s … unions bully, country collapses, labour weak, fashion goes straight to heck … and SLADE are back rocking the country WOOHOO!


  4. 8
    RED LEN says:

    Thanks for saving me a seat, Ed. Run along and get me some popcorn now.


    • 11
      Expat Geordie says:

      Don’t the Chinese regard the colour red and the number eight to be lucky? Of course Ed has deliberately left that seat empty and look where it has gotten him.


    • 38
      Gideon says:

      It looks like that is a section of the audience from that old comedians’ graveyard, the old Glasgow Empire, judging by the look on their faces


    • 91
      Big Momma says:

      Very cheerful looking audience? Not surprising seeing the state of the Liebor Party.


    • 197
      The Eddie Boys Bandwagon Tour conference whispers says:

      behind the scenes labour are we’re getting ready for conference concerting their routines .. dollops of statesmanlike stuff from the boys … rehearsals are going very well but they’re struggling with lines as usual … and policies and ..well you know the rest but it’ll be alright on the night


  5. 12
    Bollocks Broadcating Corporation says:

    Ed is simply using the L and C technique we use when discussing executive payoffs – Lies and Cover-up.


  6. 17
    Pollytwaddle says:

    Just as long as he doesn’t get kicked out before the election…


    • 21
      Elvis says:

      But who would replace him? I can’t see the unions supporting anyone sensible so Liebore would end up with Balls, which would guarantee disaster.


      • 92
        Darling, Darling says:

        I’m up for it and I was the only one to fight off that idiot Brown and Balls when they tried to interfere. Didn’t do the country any good though.


        • 252
          Public Image Maker says:

          I’m sure I saw a picture of you in a nazi SS uniform organising queues at the camps. Was I mistaken?. Or was it just the glasses and hair. At any rate, you need a makeover to stand any chance.


          • PIM extra says:

            … and for people to ‘forget’ how you flipped homes as exposed in the Expenses Scandal. Oh, weren’t you Chancellor then, you smug Scottish hoon?


    • 22
      David Minibanana says:

      Ed is Labour’s biggest asshole asset.


    • 119
      What a plonker. says:

      No please keep him .He may be an untrustworthy idiot but he is the greatest asset
      to the Conservative party except for that other tosser Ed Balls.


  7. 19
    So Len didn't want war in Syr!a says:

    Is Len’s Poodle paving the way for !ranian funding of Unite


  8. 20
    nellnewman says:

    He who pays the piper calls the tune.


    • 28
      Anonymous says:

      Few would wish to pipe you.


    • 47
      Gideon says:

      And our dearly beloved leaders of all hues dance a merry jig to the sound of money dropping into their caps. Money buys influence, always has, and always will, ever since politicians and political parties arose from the mirk .


    • 169
      Burgermeister, Hamelin, says:

      “He who pays the piper calls the tune.”
      And when you call a tune, you have to pay the Piper; the reverse is true as well.
      Just remember though, what happens when you try to not pay the Piper.
      Trust me– he’s a nasty piece of work. Don’t get on his bad side.
      Word to the wise if they would but listen, Frau Newman.


    • 312
      The next time Nell bends over, I'm popping one up her bum says:

      Very appropriate for Order-Order


  9. 23
    Malcolm Redfellow says:

    Fact: GMU currently affiliates on basis of 420,000 members @ £3 each a year.

    Fact: that amounts to some £1,260,000 a year.

    GMU reckons 50,000 members voted in Labour Leadership election. That suggests the actual politically-active and motivated core.

    Fact: under Miliband’s scheme, those 50,000 join the Party as individuals.

    Fact: 50,000 @ £3.71 each a month amounts to £2,226,000 a year.

    Fact: if 30,000 of those affiliates became full members, the Party is into profit.

    Facts: troublesome little details found in most political commentaries, but rarely in this one.

    Loons: far more plentiful here.


    • 39
      Durr says:

      “Fact: under Miliband’s scheme, those 50,000 join the Party as individuals.”

      Reality: no they won’t.


      • 102
        Just Saying says:

        Real fact – only about 20% of any union members (except NUT(S)) will join the Labour Party even under union pressure.
        The working man Labour Party is in the same condition as Working Men’s Clubs.


        • 138
          Malcolm Redfellow says:

          Let’s see: 20% of GMB’s 420,000 @ £3.71 a month is going on £3.75 million. That would triple Labour’s “take” from GMU-types.

          Of course, it won’t be anything like 20%. Focus on the 50,000: they are the activists. Many of that cohort are locked into positions and involvements in local Labour Parties, Trades Councils, delegated offices, whatever. They’ll have to cough the full subs.

          Meanwhile, you are howlingly wrong about NUT. It’s not an affiliated union, as far as I know. What I do know, from bitter personal encounters, is that the high-octane activists (especially in and around London) are SWP and even worse.

          Get with the program and follow the facts.

          Don’t diss the CIU. The one down the road is serving keg ale at £2.50 a pint. Better than Weatherspoons.


          • jmf says:

            just because you type fact in front of everything does not mean you are not talking bollocks and looking at your post you are talking bollocks


  10. 26
    Anonymous says:

    Hopefully this is merely a start to regime change.

    We need a good cleansing of all the liblabcon treasonous misruling class. In front of their families.


    • 29
      Owen Jones says:

      I agree and I possess the intellect and integrity to be the figurehead the public need.


      • 36
        The British Public says:

        We don’t need any new figureheads, thank you very much. The Queen does that task admirably whenever called upon.


      • 248
        NHS helpline says:

        you’re a perfect candidate for Public Dickhead but theres a long waiting list chum


      • 281
        Gideon says:

        I think you should forget it Owen lad, that’s the trouble with everything in this country, too much management (and their “blue sky thinking”, aka B’Liar) and not enough actual doers, with their feet firmly on solid ground, organise a tiddly-winks contest if you want to do something


  11. 35
    Forced Union Member says:

    Fact: £3.71 a month down the drain.


  12. 43
    Mehdi Hasan says:

    Tony Blair always tells it like it is.

    “Islam threatens UK’s future security”


  13. 44
    The BBC says:

    Another example of clear sighted judgement from Mr Miliband so different from the poor judgement demonstrated continually by Mr Cameron who continues to look weak in dealing with his party


  14. 45
    Di says:

    Money talks


    • 178
      Neil Diamond, Forever In Blue Jeans, says:

      “But it don’t sing and dance, and it don’t walk…”

      PS, money doesn’t talk, it SHOUTS!


  15. 46
    Elvis says:

    Apparently Italy ended up backing both Russia and USA over Syria at the G20.


  16. 51
    Reader says:

    Sponsored post by the maritime industry. Fair play Guido, no problem with that, you have to make a living, but having the comments off is a bit of a bore and not really in the spirit of things on the internet is it?


    • 62
      An old sea dog says:

      Indeed. If UK shipping is so bloody wonderful, why has the number of “red-duster” registrations dropped.


      • 106
        Questioner says:

        I thought that happened years ago as if you registered as ‘Monrovian’ or whatever, you could skip all the annoying maritime safety regulations?


        • 121
          Vince Cabal says:

          If the Jockanese choose independence then shipping will be able to register as Munrovian and head to Scotland for a dump under the flag of convenience.


    • 179
      Living in 97.222% white Merseyside says:

      “Our long and proud maritime history”.

      That of course includes Liverpool and please don’t forget it.

      And please don’t mention the dock workers!


      • 194

        God forgive anybody who mentions the lazy thieving scum.


        • 200
          Ed Miliband's socialist speech therapist says:

          In polite company we don’t say ‘lazy thieving scum’, we say ‘Liverpool’.

          And when the cat’s moniker is saying things like this, we say ‘Sock Puppet’.


          • Thank you. It is such a devastating thing to say that I find it difficult to believe that they don’t immediately stop the sock puppetry.


          • @Ed Miliband’s socialist speech therapist

            Perceptive comment. I have been having a siesta after my 530km drive of yesterday which followed a 1100km drive from Hoek-van-Holland on Tuesday.

            Seems that I can’t even do this without this seemingly Unite sponsored pest offering his five bob’s worth.

            Understandably, he has clearly been trying to improve his former lamentable stylistic efforts – but he still does not get it…


          • @Ed Miliband’s socialist speech therapist

            Perceptive comment. I have been having a siesta after my 530km drіve of yesterday which followed a 1100km drіve from Hoek-van-Holland on Tuesday.

            Seems that I can’t even do this without this seemingly Unite sponsored pest offering his five bob’s worth.

            Understandably, he has clearly been trying to improve his former lamentable stylistic efforts – but he still does not get it…


          • green ink says:

            you’ve got an echo SC


          • Ego usus interdicitur verbum:
            agitare :-)


          • Gonk says:

            An echo and an illness. Mostly brought on by bedsits and loneliness.


      • 558
        Degsy Hatton says:

        In a former life I worked for a big building firm with offices all over the country but avoided setting up shop in Liverpool like the plague because of the union aggro rampant there, but another outfit marched bravely into Wallasey/Runcorn and were plagued from day one with grief from the unions. Damned near finished them!


  17. 60
    BBC leftwit says:

    The license fee could be rounded up to £200 with £10 going to Labour and the rest to BBC staff in illegal payoff.


  18. 66

    Casual Observer made a good post last night about the corruption that has unsurprisingly seeped from every other walk of public life into the NGO sector. I hope he is wrong about Médecins sans frontières but fear he is correct.

    However I think there is a full-circle rationale witnessed in the unwillingness of the elected legislatures (in both UK and USA) to support any decision to go to war if there is not seen to be any direct or contingent threat to our national interest that recalls the policies of non-intervention some decades ago.

    It is harder to do nothing nowadays as the media brings it straight to us. But doing nothing can be an honourable option if there is any chance that direct involvement will actually make matters worse.

    The calculus relating to such decisions has been badly skewed in the past by relying on poor intelligence so the onus of proof must always reflect this now widely acknowledged weakness. That is why the British people are 80% in favour of keeping out of Syria, a position with which I totally agree.


    • 118
      Just Saying. says:

      Situation is very similar to the Balkan Wars of 1913-14 and in Armenia.
      Lots of rhetoric but no action from both sides of the pond.
      London did send army officer observers to Greece on this war, and their reports are very hard reading for a weak stomach; much as they would be in Syria.
      The beginning of one of their reports was used as a preface to a serious book on the Bosnian war.


    • 148
      Expat Geordie says:

      As Sir Edward Leigh pointed out in the Commons debate, we are not the former colonial power, and we have no other links to the country, so it is not our war. We did fight there in 1941, but that was against the French.


      • 171
        Point of Information 5 says:

        France is the former colonial power, but one suspects they have their eye more on another ex colony, Lebanon.

        Biggest gas fields so far discovered belong to them, but they are having some domestic issues bringing production online. Fighting already with !srael over rumours of theft via horizontal drilling etc. Lots of oil fields also in their waters.

        The recent billion euro Saud! arms deal signed with France is perhaps also relevant. Signed off and announced on the 29th Aug. US also signed a very large deal last month.

        UK has not had a lot of luck in its business dealings there, L!am Fox / Werrity et. al. being the tip of a fairly sandy ice berg.

        (B.A.E / E.A.D.S merger cancellation did upset the US quite a bit.)


    • 158
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Yes SC CO’s comments noted. btw I got me a new full time troll / smear merchant it appears.


    • 189
      Tay King-dePisse says:

      Any intervention in Syria could be called a potential “Tar Baby” if we weren’t afraid that, somehow, it would be taken as a racial remark against Obama.

      So I won’t call it that. And neither should anyone else. (Nudge nudge wink wink.)


      • 385
        Lateral Thought says:

        But Br’er Rabbit appears to be asking Br’er Fox not to fling him into the brier-patch… and Br’er Fox is flinging him…


    • 254
      green ink says:

      in a pragmatic judgement you are not alone but having strategic options removed by political expediency on an issue like chemical weapons sends the wrong message at the wrong juncture to all sides in the middle eastern region.

      glad you returned to roost safely


  19. 68
    Selohesra says:

    Is the Maritime post above thisvthread tittle tattle gossip or rumour – if none of these is it on the right blog?


  20. 71
    Song for Ed says:


  21. 80
    unsponsored post says:

    The education system is apparently lacking in capacity because of the failure of Labour ministers to provide for the massive increase in immigration and birth rate, who would have imagined that eh ?


    • 84
      The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

      If you are hosting a party and it is gatecrashed by hundreds of unwanted guests is anybody really surprised when you run out of booze?


      • 94
        Off the hostess trolley says:

        No, but the properly invited guests do not appreciate having their cutlery, plates, glasses, food drink and chairs taken away and given to the gatecrashers, who meanwhile demand a change in the music and doggie bags for their relatives.


    • 87
      Labours literally unwritten plan says:

      Labour opened the flood gates to get people in for:

      1. Votes
      2. Tax revenue
      3. Reduced cost of Labor

      they bribed the first generation with housing and benefits, so as they could afford to work cheap, pay tax and vote. They did not extend pension benefits though as new comers were to cover existing liabilities now capped.

      The next generation are not entitled to school places etc in their calculation as this destroys the public sector savings. They I guess hoped that low wages and no meaningful future would have prevented breeding. They got that wrong.


      • 112
        Watcher says:

        You missed :
        4. Much cheaper than sorting out the educational system and trying to wrest control of it from the teaching unions.


    • 122
      That's another one they got wrong then says:

      In early noughties my local council was closing down /amalgamating primary schools as they had loads of surplus places and apparently predictions on birthrate and demographics from central government predicted a fall in birth rate over the following decade..!!!


      • 136
        Lou Scannon says:

        Certainly true here. (Apparently they even went so far as to dump concrete down the loos so there was no going back.)
        Any one with half a brain could see that the demand for places was about to increase, not decrease.


      • 151
        Expat Geordie says:

        Same in Bournemouth where Townsend Primary School was closed as late as
        2008 for the same reason, although admittedly Townsend is a shit hole and the locals act accordingly.


      • 164
        Things Labour Got Wrong says:

        Pretty much everything Labour claimed has been disproven by history.

        Extending the olive branch of belief in anything they say these days is a fools gambit.

        The fundamental question for the election is:

        Would a Labour government help improve my standard of living and reduce my day to day costs ?

        One suspects the electorate know the answer to that from recent experience.


  22. 81
    Bugler Bert says:

    Blackmail; an ugly word, so is exactly correct when applied to some union leaders – not all, as there are a few decent leaders around. But when one sees of whom is in the news, ’tis those always threatening strikes……… The answer is simple – Make voting mandatory!


  23. 88
    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    Why on earth would anyone want to be associated with Ed Miliband?


  24. 97
    David Cummerbund says:

    Labour Party swept away in Aussie elections.

    So dumping ruinously expensive green carbon taxes and toughening up immigration laws is popular with voters?

    So its not about windmill farms and energy taxes and gay marriage after all?


  25. 104
    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:



  26. 115
    Labour's rotten to the core says:

    Good ammunition for Cameron to use at next week’s PMQs.


    • 126
      It was ALL his fault, Mr Speaker says:

      Or even Monday when Dave reports on G20


    • 154
      Dave should resign now says:

      Dave could follow the example set by his friends in Syr!a and just shoot Ed in the back of the head.

      Instructional video’s on this rhetorical technique are available on uTube.


  27. 116
    Tom Fatson MP says:

    Suck me off little boy


    • 142
      Selohesra says:

      Campaign in Oz went well :)


      • 157
        The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

        Surely Gordon Brown was also there backing Aussie Labour?


        • 172
          Bugler Bert says:

          NO, but see what happens when that oaf Watson supports Rudd…….


        • 174
          Julia Gizzard says:

          Can I just say … Ah ha hah ha ha ha!..Ah ha hah ha ha ha!…Ah ha hah ha ha ha!..Ah ha hah ha ha ha!…What do you know..twice as shite without me..Ah ha hah ha ha ha!..Ah ha hah ha ha ha!..

          See…I told you people weren’t fed up with me and my mindless droning, sleaze and utter incompetence..They were fed up with all of the labour party and the mindless droning, sleaze and utter incompetence..


          • Labour...mendacious expedient sociopaths says:

            that fucking accent could grate an onion


          • Expat Geordie says:

            I think that she needs a real man. Her other half is, apparently, a hairdresser. A fine example of the species Homo Australiarse. The country has gone seriously down hill since the Aussie male was emasculated.


          • Teasy Weasy says:

            Dave’s free – have you seen the size of his bollocks?


  28. 140
    Anonymous says:

    The report released to the UN by the Russian government concludes that the weapons used in chemical attacks in Syria are similar to the weapons in the hands of al-Nusra and are different from the weapons known to be possessed by Syria.


    • 146
      Great British Public says:

      Can we all move on from Syria, please ? This Country needs to focus on its own massive problems, the Debt left to us by the last Labour government, the great vampire squid called the European Union which feeds voraciously off us and excessive immigration.

      Syria ought to be the least of our worries.


    • 170
      Jimmy says:

      Israel placed the mercenary rebels in Syria because Israel needs to take Syria before they attack Iran. The rebels were losing the war against the legitimate government of Syria so Israel placed gas in Syria and attempted to blame Syria for the gas. Anybody familiar with how the radical Judaist apartheid church state of Israel operates knows they are liars, thieves, and murderers who will go to any length pull any dirty trick to get what they want.


      • 175
        Julia Gizzard says:

        This is, perhaps, another Jimmy?


      • 183
        Jimmy the Dhimmi says:

        Presumably Thatcher gave them the idea.


      • 185
        Point of Information 5 says:

        The real Jimmy would not give such a coherent argument.

        Also, Jimmy would not erroneously lay the blame at !srael’s door.

        Look to Qatar / Saud! Arab!a / France for the main source of the weapons and funding. Follow the !slamic trail of the Sunn! radical and the Wahhabist for some of the modus operandi.

        The drawing in of !ran is a clear strategy, and the US !srael lobby perhaps does have a role in the design and running of that. But !ran have extended the olive branch to !srael, so this is perhaps not going to wash as easily.

        Comparing the systems of governance in Syr!a and !srael would be a worthwhile exercise, considering that regime change in Syr!a because of perceived ‘badness’ of that government is apparently desired.

        Laying the wholesale blame at !srael’s door is a trap, and not the complete truth.

        The !sraeli-Arab!an axis is most curious and has been overlooked thus far.


      • 383
        Mahmood Uhlulululu says:

        Jimmy luv, come to Israel and I’ll take you out for some lovely food, walks by the beaches and some visits to wonderful museums and if Islam is your bag, there’s a great Muslim Art museum in Jerusalem. You’ll notice people of all colour and creed on the streets and I can show you some of the new posh houses in Haifa built by Israeli Arabs. Maybe you can knock on their doors and tell them they’re living under apartheid – they’ll be very interested.

        Now put away that hatred and imagine you’re being cradled in the arms of your dear Uncle Mahmood


  29. 141
    Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:



  30. 143
    Sponsored commenter says:

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  31. 155
    The Middle East War Envoy says:

    Good morning boys, I am glad you are talking about maritime matters. I am an expert. I am currently on our mega yacht offshore some dirty Greek Islands. They tell me the Greeks are preparing to shoot a few up the arse of the Turks when we start the firstwork display in Syria. Oh well, it’s seems to be heneriditary.

    As you have seen, I have been totting away again, can’t help it. But you should see these boats I spend my hollies on. They have barrels of the white stuff, quite extraordinary. I now understand why we put into Palermo on the way. And the girls, they don’t seem to have any clothes on board. Where were they brought up? They look like New Labour voters to me, who have escaped from all those sink estates which elect us..

    I will keep you all abreast of the success of my warmaking mission, I know you are all riveted…

    Toot toot…..oops…

    Oh I forgot to tell you

    I have received payments of over $50 million from the Qataris and Saudi for supporting their Sunni jihad. What is Slotty going to buy now I ask?


  32. 159
    The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

    What’s with all this marry-time bullshit? Haven’t we had enough of gay marriage?


  33. 161
    Andrew Efiong says:

    It’s part of a pattern. When he’s under pressure he blusters and cooks up a panic solution that damages everyone.

    Don’t let him near a whelk stall!


  34. 166
    Loookalikkeeeee says:

    Well, good luck to Chris Bryant in his new job as Prime Minster of Australia.


  35. 176
    Diana Abbott Self appointed leader of the ghetto says:

    Maritime what?
    I didn’t even know Britain was near the sea.


  36. 177
    Ed Moribund says:

    What does GMB stand for anyway?

    Grimsby metal bashers? Give me bennies? Groaning militant brothers?


  37. 180
    Ed Moribund says:

    I’ve been looking very hard into this One Nation stuff I’ve been blabbering about.

    I have to say .. it really is just a howling pile of evil smelling pig shit.
    I’d flush it, but I’m not sure the sewers could cope with something as putrid as this.


    • 288
      Dyno-Rod says:

      Sorry we’re still trying to unblock the blockage caused by Cameron’s ” Big Society”. We can’t deal with another load of bullshit


  38. 182
    Tom Watson says:

    Well that went well.

    Which way is the airport, sport?


    • 241
      bunterwatch says:

      hey fatso …. do one


      • 262
        Aussie Rugby Coach says:

        Hey Tom! Ever played rugby union? Reckon I could get ya a place in the front row of the Canberra Ladies’ Third XV. You’d have to hide yer tackle, slap on a bit of lippy and have a less effeminate hair-do, but I reckon they’d take ya.


  39. 201
    RED LEN says:



  40. 203

    As of June 2013 of the 400 councils In England and Wales there are now 86 paying or committed to pay their staff the living wage. In addition all 32 councils in Scotland are now living wage employers paying their staff at least the living wage.

    The councils in England and Wales are:

    Ashfield District Council, LB Barking and Dagenham, Barnsley Metropolitan Borough Council, Bassetlaw District Council , Blackpool Council, Birmingham City Council, Braintree District Council, LB Brent, Brighton and Hove City Council, Bristol City Council, Bromsgrove District Council, Burnley Borough Council, Caerphilly County Borough Council, Cambridge City Council, Cherwell District Council, Calderdale Council, LB Camden, Cardiff Council, Carlisle City Council Chorley Borough Council, City of London Corporation, Coventry City Council, Crawley Borough Council, Croydon Council, Dartford Borough Council, Deal Town Council, LB Ealing, LB Enfield, Exeter City Council, Gedling District Council, Gloucester City Council, LB Greenwich, LB Haringey, Harlow District Council, LB Harrow, LB Hounslow, Hyndburn Borough Council, Ipswich Borough Council, LB Islington, North Kesteven District Council, LB Lambeth, Lancaster City Council, Leicester City Council, LB Lewisham, Malvern Hills District Council, Mansfield District Council, Manchester City Council, Melton Mowbray District Council, LB Merton, Newark and Sherwood District Council, LB Newham, Newcastle under Lyme Borough Council, Newcastle City Council, Newport City Council, Norwich City Council, Nottingham City Council, Oldham Metropolitan Borough Council, Oxford City Council, Plymouth City Council, Preston City Council, Redcar and Cleveland Borough Council, Rossendale Borough Council, Salford City Council, Sandwell Metropolitan Borough Council, Scarborough Borough Council, Sheffield City Council, Slough Borough Council, South Gloucestershire Council, LB Southwark, Surrey County Council, Swindon Borough Council, Swansea City and County Council, Tamworth Borough Council, Thurrock Council, LB Tower Hamlets, South Tyneside Council, Walsall Metropolitan Borough Council, Winchester City Council, Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council, Worcester City Council, Wolverhampton City Council, Wyre Forest District Council and City or York Council.

    GMB congratulates all 22 councils in Scotland for their trailblazing decision to introduce a living wage at their councils from 1st April this year (2013). This is pointing the way forward for councils in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

    GMB in Jan 2013 launched a campaign to win a living wage for 280,000 low paid workers in councils across England and Wales. See copies of campaign material in additional resources at the bottom of this page:

    GMB Living Wage – Petition
    GMB Living Wage – Workplace Poster
    GMB Living Wage – Model Council Resolution
    GMB has secured the support of Labour leader Ed Miliband and Shadow Treasury Secretary Rachel Reeves for higher pay for low paid council staff and other workers across the UK.

    Council pay rates start at £6.30ph, just 11p above the national minimum wage. As a result hundreds of thousands of council workers are forced to claim tax credits, free school meals, housing benefit and council tax benefit to make ends meet.

    GMB is campaigning for a living wage – keep up to date with the latest GMB press releases.


    • 209

      … but so far o GMB member has promised to do a fair days work!


    • 218
      Not the money tree says:

      Question. Does the living wage take into account other benefits an employee may already be receiving? Housing benefit- council house- additional holiday allowances etc? Are they factored into which employee needs a living wage as you seem to imply they only need to get increased pay to reduce the benefits that they claim?
      {Please see below also.}

      – Is the living wage regional? Does an employee in Hull receive the same wage as an employee in London? If so, why? Living standards vary considerably.

      – Have councils reduced employee numbers in order to pay this living wage or have they increased council tax, thereby raising a tax on their constituents to pay for this increased cost?

      – is the living wage included in all future pension commitments? IE has the council not only increased it s costs but also dramatically increased its future liabilities too?

      – Have any cuts to services been made to pay these new salaries?

      – Has there been an incremental shift in ALL council worker’s pay in order to retain the divisions of labour or are managers now paid the same as non-managers?

      – Have these newly increased paid workers undergone an assessment from the council in order to ensure that as they were claiming free school meals, tax exemptions and credits etc, that they are no longer doing so as they now no longer need to?

      – Why is it mainly Labour councils who’s officers and elected officials are in receipt of union money that have agreed to this increased public expense? is this not in fact a conflict of interests? is this in fact..lobbying? Something the labour party is against.

      – Have workers agreed to any new productivity targets in order to qualify for this new sum? or is it simply a bigger payment for doing the same job in the same way?
      In fact, if no productivity has been agreed then surely all the union has done is to put these jobs at risk once private companies show they can deliver the same services at a considerable saving?

      Thankyou for your post and I’m sure that once you have demonstrated that there has been no increase or additional burden onto council tax payers and no services cut, and that no one has been given a significant wage increase many times above that their private sector colleagues might enjoy, but for no extra work, then we would all welcome this interesting proposal.


      • 224

        Speak for yourself, I never welcome this sort of crap. We try to keep the debate here at a higher more reasoned level.


      • 232
        Dame Diane says:

        The living wage is nonsense, It simply increases costs for no net gain. We will rue the day…..

        For example, lets say the living wage increases to £10 per hour. The government and local authorities have to raise taxes to pay the extra. Because taxes have gone up, the living wage has to go up to, say £11 per hour. However, private sector workers have to find extra tax to pay the living wage to the public sector – even if they are on wages below the living wage themselves.
        The public sector is already paid more than the private sector and has huge, gold-plated pensions. We need to redistribute public sector pay and pensions back to the private sector.


    • 219
      Fed up Taxpayer says:

      Cutting and pasting. What Council workers do all day.


      • 293
        REALWORLDER says:

        What about the valuable contribution of the “five a day”advisors and the
        lesbian outreach workers?


    • 298
      Subjugated Council Tax Payer says:

      My council is in that list. That would explain why they are now having to get their employees to close council services down for single unpaid days because they say they haven’t got the cash. Despite that they continue to lend money to other Labour controlled councils from their reserves, and declined to take up the government’s offer of additional cash this year.
      That’s what happens when Labour gain control and the ‘chief executive’ has been a union trougher all his life, ratcheting up his salary by moving from one council to another.
      And of course the unpaid days off are simply to annoy the public by making a childish political point.


    • 345
      Expat Geordie says:

      No Durham County Council on this list? I’m surprised, nay shocked. Perhaps DCC is actually doing something right for once. Then again, perhaps the cost of living up there is such that they don’t need to pay it. But since virtually everyone up there is on the government payroll anyway, there aren’t enough private sector earners to pay for it


  41. 215
    Alex Salmond, formerly the cleverest man in politics says:

    Well, that’s winter arrived in Scotland so we’ll be in hibernation until next May.


  42. 256
    Michael Parkinson says:

    Does anyone know if Ed is over 50? I’d like to sell him some life insurance.


    • 261
      Blue Peter Goldfish says:

      Now that would be something if somebody could guarantee your life… insurance.


      • 264
        Gooey Blob says:

        Would it cover Ed for “accidental” backstabbing or defenestration?

        Come to think of it, you’re speaking of the Sun Life Over 50s Plan, are you not? Alas, I fear Labour will have nothing to do with The Sun since three-time election winner Tony Blair was shown the door…


    • 263
      Ed Miliband the Vacuum Impaler says:

      what a kind thought Michael but since I had the remainder of my spine removed during the recess I’m dreadfully incontinent and this syria thingey has made it a lot worse .. do you have any mates at tena ?


  43. 266
    The Libor party says:


    • 274
      Point of Information 5 says:

      Taxpayer already directly supports political parties.

      It is called; Short Money


    • 346
      Expat Geordie says:

      Shouldn’t that be StopThe Militax.coN?


      • 368
        i want my money back says:

        I’d never heard of Short Money until yesterday- courtesy of Guido.
        I’m honestly shocked that public money has been donated to opposition
        parties for years, and few of us know anything about it.
        It’s not acceptable and must be stopped.


  44. 267
    Owen Jones says:

    “Talk complete bullshit, lie, cheat & spend everyone else’s money without consideration”

    The mantra of David Cameron’s Conservatives.


  45. 282
    Gideon, expert towel folder says:

    There’s only 108 days until Xmas, so everyone go out and spend, spend, spend!

    With VAT at 20%, purchasing even Chinese tat from the 98p Store will help pay for civil servant’s index-linked pension for a few minutes.

    It’s your patriotic duty not to save!


  46. 292

    Now the obnoxious little worm seriously expects TAXPAYERS money to
    fund his treacherous gang of euro arselickers.
    It is no surprise ,the solution to everything ,more of other peoples money.


    • 300
      The Eddie Boys Bandwagon Tour tena leaks team insider says:

      good conference poster with Your Country Needs Me emblazened…. we like it


  47. 303
    David Cameron says:

    I am the result of privilege and therefore perfectly placed to tell the feckless poor, unemployed and disabled how they should run their lives….on less money if at all possible


    • 304
      A typical Labour voter says:

      I did very badly at school, have few qualifications, a rubbish insecure menial job paying minimum wage, I can’t manage my finances and my bank account is always going overdrawn. What little money I have, I tend to spend on alcopops and pizza.

      I am therefore highly intelligent and totally justified in calling Tories “stupid”.


  48. 307
    Gung Ho says:

    They pretend to care about the ‘poor Syrian children’ whilst our own freeze in the winter and rely on food banks and are now denied an education.
    What happened to these Tory MPs that turned them into such cold, dreadful spiteful and malicious psychopaths?


    • 308
      Gung ho ho ho says:

      Never heard so much garbage in my life, food banks were about in 2008/9, education was denied, remember the kids who came out of school unable to read and write all the immigrants who’s language skills were not English, all politicians are sad people because they suck the blood out of the people of this country for their own ends


    • 309
      Voter says:

      IDS, Cameron, Gove, Osborne … a team of trumped up posh boys without the intellect or substance to lead a scout troupe.

      But hey, without Clegg and his little gang they would be flapping about on the opposition benches like stranded haddock


      • 370
        don't make me laugh says:

        Labour contain as many trumped up posh boys who delight in sticking their noses in the trough.
        But they hypocritically pretend they’re the same as us.
        And you’re daft enough to fall for it.


      • 411
        Sir Sidney Bunberry-Dewdrop says:

        you miss gordon … vote ukip


  49. 311
    Grandad Voted Labour, Father Voted Labour, so I vote Labour says:

    Fank God for food banks – I couldn’t afford drugs, booze and fags on me benny money wivout ‘em.


    • 316
      Universal Hiss says:

      Take the trouble to read the Welfare Reform Act 2012.

      It’s chilling reading, pushed through parliament by any means possible as it could not stand up to scrutiny in a democratic country.

      Coming to many of the middle classes soon,or it would if it was not for the abject failure of George Smith & the DWP & all who sail in her.

      A disgusting piece of legislation that gives unlimited powers to the secretary of state.

      Where the fuck was Labour or the Libdems?


      • 321
        Cynic says:

        Only too happy to let the Tories take the rap for their profligacy over the years.

        Stay schtum and blame the baby-eating Tories.


      • 327
        Socialism is a severe mental illness says:

        “Take the trouble to read the Welfare Reform Act 2012.”

        Does it, by any chance, abolish welfare, “forcing” people to.. you know.. look after themselves?

        Rather than let them continue to sponge off others?

        Dear God, I hope so.


        • 332
          Universal Hiss says:

          I’m afraid it doesn’t.

          The spongers in this instant are the government producing draconian legislation that will never work & cost billions to no effect.

          So I’m afraid you & I will still be paying for the spongers,you know,the ones in sharp suits not shell suits.

          I love a good stereotype.


          • the buck stops says:

            Apart from the genuinely disabled, no Brits should be eligible
            for benefit unless they actively seek work and do community service.
            And no immigrants should be eligible for any benefits-including housing,medical treatment and education.


          • Universal Hiss says:

            It’s been the case for thirty years or more that to receive work related benefits,they come with the condition of actively seeking work.

            The community service element is problematic.Outsourced to the very efficient private sector. Always has costs and the tax payer pays yet again for little result. Of course everyone & his dog has a different definition of community service.


          • no more money says:

            Pretending to seek work and actively seeking work are two very different things.
            Sadly there are far too many of the former getting away with it.


  50. 314
    Barry and Dave says:

    Barry: “Bomb the bastards”.
    Dave: “I wish they’d let me bomb the bastards”.


  51. 315
    We can have peace says:

    The EU’s 28 members decided this evening against war against Syria, despite Mr Kehrny’s propaganda efforts

    It is high time/sreal stopped interfering in the internal affairs of oivilised western countries and addressed its own war crimes and illegal occupation and apar t h eid before daring to tell anyone what to do

    The State of !sreal is the greatest threat to the Middle East – it wants to attack Syria and then Iran – everyone whose eyes and ears are half open knows that – And the lead warmongers AIPAC state its openly

    Above all, to push western countries into sacrificing ilives and treasure for a
    z i o n i s t ambition is obscene

    There is not threat to US national security from Sysria

    Thereis not threat to UK national security

    There is no threat to European secutiry

    And it is a WAR CRIME to attack another country without a UN Resolution
    as the UN envoy Brahimi has just said again

    Opinion in western countries is running 2 to 1 against this mad war

    Civilised western countries should listen isten to the wisdom of their people not the lies smearing and propaganda of a country trying to manpulate others to fight its wars of aggression for it –

    We want peace not war

    Jaw jaw not war war

    Be intelligent friends


    • 319
      Great Granddad says:

      You want to ease up on the juice, fellah.


    • 336
      Point of Information 5 says:

      There is a big impact for EU security though.

      That would be tied to the refugee problem which is already causing problems out in Greece, and if provoked will cause significant problems moving forward.

      The French destabilization of the Syr!an government is largely responsible.


      • 338
        We can have peace says:

        Attacking nSyria would proably increa


      • 341
        We can have peace says:

        I would suggest that “big impact” is an exaggeration

        And it is not a security threat per se

        It is a humanitarian problem yes,, which we all regret

        Attacking Syria would cetainly increase the number of refugees…

        The US, UK and French plus the Qataris and Saudis have ALL been destabilising the Syrian government – pretty openly – the French no more than others in my opinion, and I follow them closely and am married to one…

        If you remember, it started as “non lethal aid” now it is “lethal” – next step will be regime change, genocide and ethnic cleansing on a massive scale which could only be stopped by another invasion like Iraq!


        • 348
          Point of Information 5 says:

          The humanitarian situation is a problem now.

          It would be increased significantly by an intervention, excluding an intervention coordinated with and at the request of the Syr!an government.

          With the current state of EU, especially the periphery, a large number of refugees showing up would be a big impact. In Greece it has not helped their fragile political status quo at present.

          J0rdan and Lebanon have been bearing the brunt thus far, but !srael is now beginning to see displaced Syr!ans showing up en-masse at their border.

          The people have been displaced by the insurgent forces, not the government.

          The realistic figures we are talking about for potential displacement are in the order of 2 to 3 million people.


          • We can have peace says:

            It would be nice to think that an intervention could be organised with and at the request of Syrian Government…bloody difficult to do…humanitarian corridoors is an old French idea of Kouchner’s but never really tried..

            But I think that line of thinking is good..especially if it could lead to a de facto division of Syria into two/three autonomous areas like Kurdistan in Iraq – which actually works –

            Might be the best way to limit the number of deaths which is really what it is all about


          • Point of Information 5 says:

            The easiest way to fix the mess is to cut the funding and supply lines to the insurgents. They will run out of munitions fairly quickly.

            Lift the trade embargo’s on the Syr!an government.

            Allow the government to finish off the insurgents, and perhaps supply UN observers to confirm that the government does not take action against its own people, or use CW in dealing with it insurgent problem.

            Humanitarian aid in the form of food and medical supplies should be made available to the Syr!an government and local agencies on the ground, with UN oversight to ensure and assist in distribution.

            Russ!a itself should be a willing assistant and donor.

            The UK may wish to provide aid, but needs to work on rebuilding diplomatic links with the country with an eye on the future.

            Syr!a could be a good trading partner moving forward.

            Free trade across the Levant should be more in the UKs interest than the false case for regime change and disruption of trade which the insurgency is causing.


          • Blowing Whistles says:

            I was reading some info posted up just around here at approx 8:45 pm where the poster [not me] had written of ’90 degrees to verticle’ drilling … and all of a sudden the whole post just disappeared.

            Freedom of Expression – refers to the right to send and receive information regardless of frontiers or boundaries.

            But when it comes to secret agendas and dirty business deals being concealed from the public well aren’t the corrupted states’ executive members just adequately displaying that they are the ones caught out for their criminal enterprises?


          • Point of Information 5 says:

            That was not me, but is a touchy subject.

            Some are claiming people are stealing gas or oil which isn’t yet proven. This is a ridiculous argument, but for many very credible black propaganda.

            Google, but treat that information with a grain of salt just at the moment. :-)


          • Blowing Whistles says:

            POI5 – I didn’t state it was you – therefore you did not have to deny it – but that you did is noted.


        • 357
          Point of Information 5 says:

          To clarify why I singled out French being a problem was to focus on the EU angle.

          UK has been supplying materiel, but has mainly logistical equipment to the insurgents. eg. The mobile phones a lot of them have been using to make propaganda flicks for uTube.

          If UK guns / grenades / etc. start showing up, then Parliament has some very serious questions to ask of Hague.

          France has been supplying arms and cash.

          The Qatar!, Saud! and US involvement, when looked at from the humanitarian angle and the direct impact it is having in the region should be considered as hostile action against EU periphery nations, J0rdan, Turkey and !srael.

          They have been supplying arms, fighters and most importantly the ideology which has been dr!ving the insurgents on.

          Creating humanitarian problems is a standard strategy in warfare, and a powerful one. In particular large refugee displacements are good for clearing land and destabilizing regions. Draining the resources of the enemy by creating casualties slows them down and weakens them.

          An example of the last point: The deliberate targeting by insurgent snipers of children in Syr!a, aiming for the spine to cripple rather than kill.

          The interventionists are supporting these actions by targeting the Syr!an government, and a practice which will leave a permanent mark on the next generation of Syr!ans.

          In a twisted way the NGOs appear to be satisfied with this as where they are assisting in dealing with the problem, they are able to justify their continued funding.

          It should be noted that NGOs are involved as the Syr!an government is tied up with the insurgents, and itself is denied the ability to purchase the resources it need to deal with this problem due to trade restrictions which have been imposed on the country.

          One should look at this entire picture very carefully, and somewhat dispassionately.


          • We can have peace says:

            To be brief
            My understanding is that Qataris are purchasing and supplyihg the most lethal weaponsvfollowed by French and UK – though UK on non attributable basis -don’t forget Cameron has very front running on this for some time now, which I have never understood except for some Blairite Gulf bung
            On Syrian regime, I agree on most points tho see little hope of turning clock back..especially sinde this is golden opportunity hyped up with lies and smearihg for ! Srael to get US and co to attack Syria Hesbollah and then Iran..the neo con machine is out in full force – todays smear being “appeasement” of course worthy of Go ebb ls
            On NGOSs – I have known the Medecins sans frontiere people for years – pretty odd bunch at thebtop -far too political for me
            I prefer the old plodders at the Rec Cross – less political and independently funded


          • We can have peace says:

            Dont forget

            The last refuge of the neo cons is smearing lies and censorship

            They are out in full force now


          • Blowing Whistles says:

            WCHP me demodd at 8:25 pm too.
            POI5 – you mentioned ‘funding’ – now didn’t I just posit here last week a question about the funding of the UN and / or of their predisposition to not throw light at Israel [which is now a given] – and I should have said the IMF as well but I didn’t.

            Too many secret and hidden agendas by too many old boys of the old political school – just sit back and watch them all eat themselves alive along with their corrupted circus mates over in the msm.

            Oh yeah …. can’t wait! for the the sunday spoiler stories – wanchors the lot of em.


          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Just a little footnote for now – ‘The sins of their fathers’ – the publics political fathers – the old boys who get themselves talked up as of being political giants and who hold themselves out to be of such high ‘n mighty morals – bastard Rsoles – living in their group herd cognitive dissonance bubbles of self-impotence.

            When are the MET going to lift Blair for multitudes of criminal offences – and btw he does not have immunity from prosecution – if he gained immunity illegally / unlawfully.


      • 343
        We can have peace says:

        This might interest you

        B Obama Chicago 2002

        “What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

        What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income — to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.”

        Change the names of a few of the armchair warriors and it is a repeat…..with even more dangerous implications now


    • 355
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Kerry’s rhetoric in attempting to promote his and his friends’ case for attacking is floundering. Even the lawmakers in the US have to be careful with the legalese being touted as if it were fact. Kerry stated by implication of it being ‘clear’ it was Assad – yet he still used the believe word.

      If you do not know for a fact then put a sock in it Kerry.

      Kerry and his executives’ case for ‘attack, attack’ has more holes in it than the bumbling and bungling ruse [pack of lies and twisted statistics] of Al [fucking] Gore’s pitiful Global Warming scaremongering < The vast majority of its so called scientific evidence having been outed as legalese, fear-mongering, hot air and utter drivel in order to mislead the masses on 'both sides of the Atlantic'.

      If they can't have civil, open and transparent public discussions with the public – then politicians have no right to claim any form of public / national interest without being held to account. And that includes the despicable closing down of public opinion by the msm as well.


      • 455
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Ahh di dums – they still can’t de -mod the 8:25 pm comment and its now after 11:20 pm – whats the matter eh will it interfere with the msm b/s that’s currently being printed?


        • 464
          Schrödinger's cat, Two dogs, Fifty seventh earl, and so many other pseudo-intellectual monikers says:

          Hopefully it will be sorted out in the morning. Sleep well my friend.


        • 467
          Tachybaptus says:

          No, BW, they can’t. They are unconscious and snoring stertorously, and only the bot is keeping watch. Maybe you used a naughty word like ‘dгunk’ or ‘drіνе’. But there is no appeal against the bot.


    • 462
      Blowing Whistles says:

      What is it about the DM that they cannot mention on page 10 Sat 7 Sept in the article that the chief protaganist at Staffs CC is none other than a Mr Tradewell who just happens to be a Common Purpose fully indoctrinated / NLP’d up to his eye balls ‘leading by authority’ mongrel; and could it just be that the Tory stupid Goy’mnt are also ‘fully infested with Francis Maude types too – hence the ‘DEAFENING SILENCE’?


      • 482
        Not Blowing Whistles says:

        Isn’t it ‘leading beyond authority’ ?

        The DM is a hostile source of propaganda and dis-information.


        • 487
          Blowing Whistles says:

          I stand corrected NBW my humble apologies for my despicable mistake. The bloke in question is still a fucking nutjob though and like the NHS mongrel Ceo CP wanchor in denial twat establishment placeman who’s waiting for his pay off. What a fucking worldwide farce Blair has turned this country into.


          • Not Blowing Whistles says:

            No problem BW + no need to chastise yourself.

            The official CP maxim of ‘leading beyond authority’ makes as much legitimate sense as ‘leading by authority’.

            Legitimate leaders lead with authority, the authority being granted by consensus of those following to their leader.

            This is the ‘democratic’ way.

            The corruption CP has promoted, and that which you put down in error, point to a subtle difference. In both cases the consensus of granting authority is removed, and in the CP case, that leadership is by those unaccountable to authority as they are beyond this.

            Both suggest a dictatorship model. The CP version an explicitly unaccountable one for would be leaders.

            For CP to be disassembled, their so called leaders simply need to be held to account, and consensus allowed to grant authority to leaders moving forward. The legitimacy of CP qualifications should also be clarified and in most cases denied.


  52. 317
    Great Granddad says:

    Give the poor guy a break. If any of you lot were preceded in office by no less than Foote, Kinnock, Blair, and Browne, how well could we possibly expect you to perform in office?


  53. 320
    Ed Twelvety Balls says:

    Here’s a part of the Labour manifesto wot I wroted…

    1. We will spend all of the taxpayers’ money on a great big party to celebrate diversity. We’ll call it “The Labour Party”, and there’ll be cakes and jelly and ice-cream and stuff.

    2. We shall hire a magician to come and entertain us and when he has finished pulling rabbits from hats he can magic some more money out of thin air to spend on those poor people who vote for us.

    6. We’ll tax everybody at a million percent and pay them benefits back. They’ll be so grateful they’ll come to the party too, and because there’ll be crisps and cakes and sandwiches they won’t need to buy their own food. So we can tax them even more.

    3. Tom Watson can come, but not Ed Miliband. He’s not my friend anymore.

    7. Don’t forget the party poppers. And no girls, they’re stupid.


  54. 322
    Tony Abbott says:

    G’day cobbers! Global Warming is a load of crap. All you eco-bastards are out of work – so Feck Off!


  55. 323
    Born And Bred in The UK - Definitely Leaving. says:

    Ed ‘Wallace’ Milibrain.
    Ed ‘Wiggy’ Bollucks.
    How the fuck have they got to where they are?.
    God Help the UK!.


    • 325
      Universal Hiss says:

      That’s why I’m so glad I live in Scotland. There is a fourth way. It may be shit but not as shittier than Westminster shit.


  56. 324
    Mehdi Hasan says:

    “This is our Munich moment, this is our chance to stand together and choose accountability over appeasement” is the quote from Owen Jones


  57. 326
    Diane Fatbott says:

    Spent all today cutting out newspaper headlines “It’s an Abbott landslide”, “Big win for Abbott”, “Abbott tops the poll” etc.

    Then I laid them all out where I could see them and pleasured myself.


    • 328
      How did she become shadow Heath Minister? Oh, right.. Miliband! FFS. says:

      “pleasured myself”

      In your case, “stuffed my big fat racist gob with pies”.


    • 344
      David Cummerbund says:

      Classy !

      I look through amateur photographer for headlines such as ” new Cam is a winner”


  58. 335
    Boris Johnson says:

    Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Maecenas interdum nulla ut arcu varius ornare. Duis neque nulla, porttitor in, interdum nec, tempor nec, erat. Integer wisi erat, consequat at, sagittis et, tristique lacinia, ipsum. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Maecenas interdum nulla ut arcu varius ornare. Duis neque nulla, porttitor in, interdum nec, tempor nec, erat. Integer wisi erat, consequat at, sagittis et, tristique lacinia, ipsum. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Maecenas interdum nulla ut arcu varius ornare. Duis neque nulla, porttitor in, interdum nec, tempor nec, erat. Integer wisi erat, consequat at, sagittis et, tristique lacinia, ipsum.


    • 339
      Last night of the proms says:

      Te referre non est necesse


    • 351
      Expat Geordie says:

      For those not in the know, these are the words often used in trial printers proof of booklets, etc., when you want to know how it will look, but don’t have the content yet.

      Bit like Boris really.


      • 378


        I would suggest it is extremely Milibanded.


        • 391
          Exclusive: Miliband's first policy says:

          Lorem ipsum dolor one nation, consectetuer Miliband elit. Maecenas interdum Balls is mong varius ornare. Duis neque nulla, porttitor in, interdum nec, nation one, erat. Integer jobs erat, consequat at, sagittis et, tristique Unite, ipsum. Lorem together dolor sit amet, community adipiscing elit. Maecenas nation nulla ut arcu varius ornare. Duis neque nulla, porttitor in, progress nec, common nec, erat. Integer wisi erat, community at, sagittis GMB, tristique lacinia, ipsum. Labour ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Maecenas equality nulla ut arcu varius harmony. Duis neque nulla, porttitor in, interdum nec, building nec, erat. Integer wisi erat, Miliband was here, giggle et, tristique lacinia, future.


  59. 342
    Fishy says:

    So the greasy creap, Vaz is going to reveal all on Monday, despite agreeing with Soca that he would keep the names of the clients of dodgy PI’s and other third parties secret.

    These people who have engaged PIs, legitimately, in good faith and have not committed any crimes will be ‘outed’ by a self important publicity seeking, showboating scumbag for no other reason than he’s a self important showboating publicity seeking scumbag.

    (Other Chairs of Parliamentary Select Committees are also available for similar criticism)

    And the conspiracy theorists will have a wonderful time.


    • 350
      Simon C says:

      Any chance of there being a phone vote?


    • 381
      Whatnot says:

      If they have nothing to be ashamed of, they have nothing to fear.


    • 397
      Retired honest banker, dying greed says:

      And how prey are you so sure that all these people engaged PIs legitimately?

      PiS are by definition a very shady bunch

      And knowing too many London soliticitors I would firmly believe that they were not actihg ‘in good faith”

      Most of them are bent as hell -especially those covering up for the bankers Murdoch and co!


  60. 347
    David Cameron says:

    Did I give the impression that the government considers it essential to waste as little money as possible so as to keep tax bills down while reducing the nation’s debts? I was lying. Oh yes.


    • 353
      Expat Geordie says:

      I love the quote “These guinea pigs have been living it up for some time now.” It must be one hell of a party.


      • 360
        taxpayer says:

        Add the £750k pa for musak in p o l i s offices. Do some f@ckin work you morons. Could pay for some c r i m e even to be investigated, that is real boring c r i m e s not media interest stuff.


    • 358
      moderate influence says:

      Add the £750k pa for musak in plod offices. Do some f@ckin work you morons. Could pay for some crime even to be investigated, that is real boring crimes like burglary, car theft and damage, not media interest stuff.


    • 359
      moderate influence says:

      Add the £750k pa for musak in p o l i s offices. Do some f@ckin work you morons. Could pay for some crime even to be investigated, that is real boring crimes like burglary, car theft and damage, not media interest stuff.


  61. 352
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    The BBC and other assorted lefties switch off now:


  62. 356
    moderate influence says:

    So Oz has a new PM with balls. Anti homo marriage, pro misogeny, Thatcher disciple, tough on immigrant masses, Brit born and educated. Could we not have him immigrate to the UK, seems to fit the bill for the next 10 years requirement.


  63. 387
    A Sports Monkey says:

    So, Madrid has been rejected by the IOC.

    I don’t suppose being bloody pains in the arse over Gibraltar helped at all.


    • 394
      An Authoritive State-owned news source for the 21st Century says:

      The BBC meanwhile is reporting on “Olympics: How Madrid has edged ahead in 2020 host city vote”.



  64. 399
    Ed Miliwit says:

    Just looking at family photo album, and remembering dad’s favourite phrases…

    “Red sky at night, Ed’s talking shite”
    “Red sky at morning, Ed’s so boring!”

    That makes me smile even now!


  65. 403
    Universal Hiss says:

    I’m getting rather jaded with all the Syria stuff.

    I know it’s important so someone give me facts please.

    It’s not just Syria it’s all the rest of the lying bastards on everything & anything that’s getting to me.

    Perhaps I should just say fuck them & all their deeds & withdraw my interest?


  66. 409
    The Libor party says:



  67. 413
    Mucis Lover says:

    Stupid idiots at the Proms are massacring ‘You’ll never walk alone”. Far, far too slow. Americans should leave British popular culture alone.They can’t always do it.


    • 444
      Tachybaptus says:

      Between music and mucus. Not a good place to be.


    • 493
      Rodgers & Hammerstein says:

      “Stupid idiots at the Proms are massacring ‘You’ll never walk alone”. Far, far too slow. Americans should leave British popular culture alone.They can’t always do it.”

      This comes as news to us.

      After all, we only wrote the fucking thing– about a young widow in New England having to face the fact that her late husband was a criminal, and that she will have to raise their daughter alone– sung to her by a relative, telling her that she will never walk alone because impliedly she has friends, family, and Almighty God with her. (Reprised at the end when her daughter graduates from high school and the girl’s father, in spirit, watches her.)

      It was in the BROADWAY show, Carousel, which premiered in 1945, FIVE fucking years before it played in London the first time.

      Us Yanks MIGHT have a teeny tiny little bit of ownership rights on that song.


      • 561
        Yanks are 200 years old 0 says:

        More bollocks
        It was first sung by the English armies as they readied themselves for battle with William of orange in 1688


  68. 416
    Anonymous says:

    Nice to see Geroge Galloway has finally woken up to Obumma being a war mongering mong.


  69. 418

    This is a Poco song: And Settling Down from A Good Feelin’ to Know.

    It has arguably the strongest hook in any of their songs in the chorus at the end of each stanza (0:27, 0:37, 1:11, 1:48 etc) repeat together with incredible harmonies lifted by the incredible voice of Timothy B Schmitt (1:27).

    I cannot find any chatter on the internet about this subtle use of a slightly overlong pause before resuming with an emphatic return of the opening chord to the next portion. If there is a recognised musical term for this device, I should love to know.

    Saw them live at the New Vic on 27/10/1976. It was the Pаul Cotton reincarnation, the founding members Jim Messina and Richie Furay had already left but Rusty Young was still playing brilliantly as ever.

    I saw an interesting comment that stated they would have become much better known had George Martin produced their albums.


  70. 423
    ████ 'changed my tune ' Hoon says:



    • 426
      Dumper Truck Watch says:

      No loss. I hope she doesn’t follow Opik and try stand-up


    • 429
      Bill Quango MP -x says:

      Your 1345 majority in a traditional safe Labour seat had no part of your decision then?

      Good for you, you lightweight, over promoted, nonsense talker.

      Although I’d bet Ed could be talked into letting you join his party and keep the seat Its going to go red anyway. And you are a lot more red than yellow. Ask Ed if you can stay? Tell him the baby Straw & Prezza and Blair can find safe seats elsewhere.
      You could defect tomorrow and seriously damage Clegg whilst boosting Miliband.

      Little Ed might go for keep his union and Syria and leadership problems off the front pages, wouldn’t it?

      Go on ask him… Your alternative comedian career is going nowhere.


    • 436
      Voter power says:

      She jumped before she was pushed.


    • 456
      Fishy says:

      End of the Teather


  71. 425
    Patriot says:

    The silly bint singing the solo for Rule Britannia had terrible diction. You couldn’t hear any of her words. Very disappointing rendition. Next time, don’t employ a yankee singer or a yankee conductor. They don’t believe in what they are doing.

    Looks like the BBC have slyly fucking up yet another British cultural institution.


    • 428
      Godfrey Bloom says:

      They sure have. Women can’t take charge of an Orchestra. Conductor female quotas have ruined the promenades


      • 435
        Close the Leftwing BBC Propaganda Department says:

        She’s not a bad conductor. She is just the wrong conductor for this event. She thinks it is all about her.


    • 433
      Close the Leftwing BBC Propaganda Department says:

      Political speech by yankee conductor at last night of Proms lasting far too long. Yuck. Bad note.


      • 451
        not going out says:

        Not a very good evening, so turned off, usually quite enjoy the proms, but the arrogant violinist was arrogant and the usual fun was missing and a bit of political correctness was showing.


      • 515
        Dire says:

        Try the Belfast Proms where Phil Coulter tried to shoe horn Ireland’s Call into the proceedings. The audience weren’t interested.


    • 480
      Living in 97.222% white Merseyside says:

      Monday night’s Hollywood Tribute was the best. Great to watch some Eastern European soprano singing the aria from Citizen Kane. This was the one he forced his talentless second wife to perform. Somewhat like Hearst funding his mistress’s Hollywood career (Marion Davis).


      • 495
        Your Friendly Neighbourhood Roman-a-Clef Service says:

        That part of the film was more specifically a reference to Samuel Insull, a British-born investor who owned the Chicago electric utility corporation and elevated transit lines. He built the Chicago opera house for his wife. That particular fact would have been a fairly recent memory for filmgoers in 1941. Orson Welles did this as a way of deflecting criticism that he was skewering William Randolph Hearst personally– almost all of Kane’s biographical details are at variance with Hearst’s and quite similar to those of other tycoons, for this very purpose– and yet in its overall effect, the fact of its being about Hearst was undeniable.


      • 517
        Murdoch making war again says:

        But ir’s me and Wendy can’t goy see ?

        I am King of Tinsel Town now that I have been expelled from London

        But I still own the Tinsel Town Times of London (until I can find some Russian Oligarch to buy it)


  72. 427
    Could Ed go on a Westminster shooting spree? says:


  73. 430
    That's Les Batersby eith Ed wothisname. Kevin Webster says:


  74. 431
    Post hoc says:

    So between 2006-2010 Britain sold Sarin to the Syrian regime. No wonder Milliboy minor wanted to backtrack. Child of the holocaust? My ass! Child of lies, cowardice and hypocrisy more like.


  75. 441
    BBC Red Bottom says:

    from our website.

    “Under Mr Rudd, Labor initially saw its figures improve. But Mr Abbott, who enjoyed the strident support of Rupert Murdoch’s newspapers, then widened the gap again. ”

    See what we did there? Implied that Murdoch won the election. We never used the words LABOUR WAS TOTALLY WIPED OUT achieving their worst level of support for 100 years. No point mentioning that. Murdoch STOLE the election is the message.
    Its the unique way we are funded you see. Means we don’t really give a fuck about independent reporting.


  76. 448
    Londoner says:

    It is not often that I feel sorry for people associated with the Labour party, but I really feel for them. It must sap the will to live having to get out of bed every day and try to convince people that Miliband is The Man.


  77. 457
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:



  78. 459
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:

    Sarah Teather – gone but not forgotten
    not gone but forgotten.


  79. 461
    Fishy says:


  80. 463
    Schrödinger's cat, Two dogs, Fifty seventh earl, and so many other pseudo-intellectual monikers says:

    Night all


  81. 465
  82. 466
    I fuckin luvs Marxist spunk i does, Stephanie says:

    ed appears to be a useless cu’nt


  83. 469
    David Minibanana says:



    • 497
      Red Ed Milipuppet says:

      Labour are still set to win a 76 seat majority. Len will be running the country.

      Be afraid.


      • 511
        The general public says:

        Yes we can only celebrate when due to the way Labour gerrymandered the system anyone else gets a 6 % lead over them. Even at that point the seats will only be equal.
        The Tories got a million more votes than Labour and Blair still took a landslide victory. Labour corrupt to the core indeed be very afraid


        • 519
          The Loony Left says:

          We can resume our programme of importing more mozzies.


          • Labour are splitting says:

            One can foresee a future where the insurgent fighters in Syr!a, who have been eating the hearts and minds of the people, are perhaps bracketed for no questions asked asylum status in the UK on humanitarian grounds to prevent the Syr!an government from hurting their human rights by firing squad.

            Some good reasons to exit EU sooner rather than later, as such a directive is likely being crafted in anticipation about now.


  84. 473
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Oh dear – politics in the UK – what a circus. And as for the DM & Scum even they cannot admit that they remained silent when CP infiltrated every orrofice of the stablishment.

    So Rupe has slithered in seamlessly [not] behind Abbot down under – odd really so he’s backing the anti-gay-marriage PM of Oz yet he’s backing the pro-gay-marriage PM of the UK (Ditto Climate change) – So who’s going to be the first Journo [not suborned to meedya laws] to force his proprietor in the UK to point out that Rupe couldnt give a F about anything other than his profiteering agendas and business interests from jurisdiction to jurisdiction?


    • 539
      Rupe the duper says:

      Abbott has promised me immunity when the British police and the FBI come after

      Its the least the puppet can do

      PS the hacks on the Times are so corrupt, they do not need to be reminded about keeping their mouths shut about my criminal empire

      Why do you think they are all talking about “morality” in Syria when their colleagues are about to be jailed? It’s all vile disinformation, my speciality


  85. 474
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:



  86. 476
    Living in 97.222% white Merseyside says:

    Djokovic – Nadal final tomorrow.

    GO NOLE!


  87. 483
    Not Blowing Whistles says:

    Why does it look like the Labour Trolls are now turning on Miliband ?


  88. 486
    Top Banana says:


  89. 498
    Lord Fatten says:

    Nobody briefed me the BBC spews out leftist agitprop 24/7


  90. 501
    The Office of Euan Blair says:

    I am Euan Blair of the Labour Party

    I represent criminal bankers, bent lawyers, neo con war criminals, the Murdoch Mob, Hampstead hedge fund owners, generalised corruption,doubling the national debt, Ponzi schemes, nepotism, and everything that Labour has brought to Britain

    Like my Mum and Dad

    PS The only thing I regret is that Mum and Dad did not send me to Eton, the Finishing School for those with golden spoons up their arses


    • 520
      Education, Edyerkayshun, Eddyookaashun says:

      Think of all those expensive tutors who polished the tvrd which is a B£iar. Not for you the bog standard education we created for the proles.


  91. 503
    unsponsored post says:

    why do they call these collections of fuckwits ” parties” as they are no fun at all ?


  92. 505
    The leftie health warning says:

    So as unemployment falls and all economic conditions improve rapidly the Lefties fall back on their normal moaning. The TUC have issued a report that they say indicates Unemployment Figure Could Be Double and many economically inactive are not counted. It’s odd because during the method of counting over the 13 years of terror between 1997 and 2010 this did not appear to be an issue.

    The TUC, Labour and the left in general just cannot bring themselves to admit they got it all wrong and always get it wrong. Expect to see days of moaning and deriding the recovery from a crash that THEY themselves created along with their banker friends who suddenly are now the enemy and the friends of the right.

    Of course the BBC have this front and centre of the news reports so again doing all they can to damage the country , the present government and anyone one that does not agree with the twisted minds of the left in general

    Vote Labour back in if you must but be aware of he consequences of doing so. If they ever get hod of power again there will be absolutely no return for the UK. Don’t say you have not be warned.


    • 530
      Anonymous says:

      “unemployment falls”: It can not fall.

      If it did wage pressure would result. This would trigger yet more immigration.

      You are working on the old rules.


    • 545
      Stephanis Philanderers of the BBC says:

      BUT… you’re not very well of….not as well off as you were before the crash. You are poorer. Remember you are poorer, say after me, WE ARE ALL POORER.

      AND Britain has not recovered to pre crash levels, unlike other countries (OK we were in a hole that was four times as big but I’m not interested in that. That’s a mere technicality).

      Remember you are poorer….remember you are not as well off as you would have been with the gorgeous Ed(s).


  93. 507
    The Economist of London, shameful smearers says:

    Here is a nice comment from the Economist, following the neo con leade,

    “But not even populist Tories should want foreign policy to be determined by opinion polls.”

    So anyone who agrees with the People is “populist”?

    And anyone who thinks that attacking Assad will only make things worse if an “apppeaser”?

    Come on Economist…

    Stop your cheap smearing. You used to represent a little thinking …not knee jerk smearing for the neo con Lobby…

    Or are you part of the neo con Lobby now? Some of your Board certainly are…

    You are looking pretty doubtful now..not the independent voice we once loved


    • 524
      Not Blowing Whistles says:

      Sir David Bell: Common Purpose shill:

      Bell was also one of those instrumental in the Leveson bid to regulate the press last year.

      The Economist as a publication has been redundant for a while, arguably since the 2007/2008 crash which they did not foresee nor were capable of providing credible explanation for.

      The R family really are not having a good time. And they seem to need a major war perhaps to protect their own interests.


  94. 514
    Little Boy Blue says:

    Abbott causes landslide!


  95. 526
    Tinsel Town Times of London says:

    Now that we have assassinated Ed’s character

    It is our God given duty to smear anyone who wants to stop our war frimes

    By calling them appeasers

    Tel Aviv Central have told us to…


    • 532
      Labour are splitting says:

      Ok – so who exactly are we appeasing in the foreign civil war where the UK is not under any form or threat of attack ?

      That same charge by Times logic can be leveled at G’ermany, but will not perhaps because the proprietor does not wish to upset that government as Sky AG is profitable ?


      • 542
        Finkelstein & Aaranovitch, shameless smearers says:

        Of course

        Rupert operates in different markets – and perhaps the Germans do not need to be encouraged to go to war…

        Something tells us they do war rather too well – It might bring back unhappy memories for us and Tel Aviv Central

        Much better to keep them just paying reparations…


        • 551
          The Flying Spaghetti Monster says:

          Well, if G’ermany did intervene in Syr!a the UN may have a problem with the clause in the motion which states that Poland and the Czech Republic should be invaded first.


          • Jihadi Christian eater says:

            The Times of London was against stopping the Germans invading the Sudetanland

            Wrong then

            and wrong on Syria now

            The genttlemen of the Times have become blinded by their own very personal agenda

            That is not journalism

            It is progaganda worthy of a certain German whose name began with G and ended in s…


  96. 531
    William Vague says:

    Back in Yorkshire for the weekend, enjoying my faggots with Yorkshire puddings


  97. 533
    Dianne Fatbutt says:

    Walmart – that’s where Madonna should go for her children.


    Dis WordPress am as useful as a mushy pea, innit ?


  98. 534
    Ebuy says:

    We have a super charity sale next week

    We will be auctioning off Lady Gaga’s Ass

    A tasty morsel indeed

    Well carved, it will make superb rump steaks for the Jihadi’s breakfast


  99. 535
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:


    • 538
      Tony Blair says:

      Don’t worry. We’ll get a big bounce from the royal wedding soon. The next in line ot my throne, dear little Euan of the lefty staring eyes dynasty will be getting married. To a woman. That’ll give us a big poll advantage.


  100. 541
    Window Licker Watch says:

    Great job Tom Watson,well done :-)


  101. 543
    unsponsored post says:

    I think somebody is using predictive text. surely when it says ” left him looking weaker” that should be “left him looking like a wanker” ?


  102. 546
    Eating Hearts And Minds: Last Chance Case for Intervention says:

    This could happen in a town or city near you if you dont !


  103. 550
    Nepotists-R-Us says:

    We in the Labour Party like to keep it in the family. We like to tell the plebs we believe in opportunity for all while we enrich ourselves at the taxpayers’ expense and create the best opportunities for our vile offspring to follow us onto the gravy train. No matter how badly we treat them the proles continue to vote for us. Lubbly jubbly!


  104. 559
    Jongleur says:

    Miliband! From the party that thought Gordon Brown was a good idea.


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