September 3rd, 2013

Pickles Refuses to Back Down as PCS Get Off on Technicality

Union fat cat Mark Serwotka’s plan to legal DCLG into submission over ending the automatic collection of union subs from civil servants’ salaries, the so-called check-off system, has worked. The PCS has got off on a technicality, meaning the taxpayer has to stump up £90,000. Pickles’s spokesperson says:

“This is a ruling on a technical point of employment law, based on a staff handbook drawn up under the Labour Government. We have already saved taxpayers’ money by abolishing full-time trade union ‘pilgrims’ and cutting back so-called ‘facility time’ to private sector levels. It remains Ministers’ intention to abolish check-off, which is an outdated and unnecessary practice given to trade unions, and epitomises a cosy and unhealthy relationship between the unions and the state.”

Serwotka’s claim that DCLG is wasting taxpayers’ money is risible given the reforms aimed to save taxpayers’ money in the first place. The department has a point when it rolls out the £250,000-a-year it is already saving by cutting back on union facility time. DCLG will still push to abolish check-off. Pickles is hardly going to give up that easily…


  1. 1
    John says:

    If they’d won, the taxpayer still would have footed the bill. Technically…

  2. 2
    Displaced Brummie says:

    A friend of mine was so impressed by Mark Serwotka’s oratorical skills when he addressed a massed PCS meeting that she immediately cancelled her membership, having been a union member for over 20 years.

  3. 3
    Dudley Zoo says:

    Don’t we pay someone with a big forhed lots of muney to look at “technicalitys”

    It’s a good job people who make planes are technical

  4. 4
    Mark Wouters. says:

    The Tories/Liberal democrats and Israelis are real “SCHMUCKS”

  5. 5
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    The Unions have and will always have my full support. It is right for the State to subsidise Union Officials doing their important jobs for their members. Boaz.

  6. 6
    Sleazo Paines says:

    It is an unnecessary fight. All Serwotka needs do is shout ‘free buffet’ and all thoughts of anything else will pass from Uncle Eric’s mind as fast as 10 mega macs can disappear down his throat.

  7. 7
    Err says:

    Talking about down-under, is Tom Watson back yet?

  8. 8
    Diane Fatbut says:

    Free buffet? Where?!

  9. 9
    trolls are tossers says:

    Stop trying to pretend you are from the Black Country. Your spelling makes it clear you are a Geordie or Scouser.

  10. 10
    trolls are tossers says:

    I always thought a schmuck was someone stupid enough to employ Carry Hole.

  11. 11
    not a machine says:

    yawns scratches backside um oh is that parliament thingy back going again , better get my shirt on then ……… hope your all well , bit dissapointed that postie hasnt been , oh well I assume then I am retired…… my monies on a difficult PMQs for ed , just hope PM can think about the langauge if he starts looking all volcanic , 400 children dead , see the gas gets into the little cellars under the rubble , its yer only option if you want cleansing and you have reduced the landscape to rubble , and to think syria had only just emerged from 40 yrs of national state of emergency , clever people these nutters arnt they …

    mmm anyone got a book going on eds chances of being labour leader past christmas , let the kerfuffle commence

  12. 12
    trolls are tossers says:

    I know a struggling maker of bowler hats and cravats. Any chance of him having a stall at the next massed PCS meeting?

  13. 13
    trolls are tossers says:

    Ok. I gather that you are not referencing Guido since (obviously) he cannot reach his backside to scratch it. Who are you meant to be?

  14. 14
    Revenge on phone scammers is fun says:

  15. 15
    Fishy says:


    When last seen, he was outside this joint asking for seconds, a receipt…and if the girly holding the sign would like to be an MP.

  16. 16
    Anonymous says:

    For all the huffing and puffing the 2500 pilgrims are still in place actively lobbying against everything the government is trying to do to reduc publice spending.

    The achievements of this government as follows

    1. Gay Marriage

    2. Updated the laws on succession to the throne

    3. Additional paternatity leave

    4. Benefits capped at £26k which is approx £35 earned, thats really going to get people back to work

    5. 500,000 new immigrants to the Uk every year of the coalition

    No progress whatsoever on

    a. Reducing public spending

    b. Repeal of the Human Rights Act

    c. Improving the Health Service ( No one has lost their job at Mid Staffs or the Care Quality Commission)

    d. Controlling Immigration

    e. Reducing taxes

    f. Reducing red tape for industry

    g. Trade union reform

    h. Constituency Boundaries and Postal Voting

    i. EU referendum

    Latest polls show a right of centre vote of well over 40% ( UKIP and Tory) and the Tories still don’t know what they have to do to win an election.

  17. 17
    V1le disgusting toxic Labour trashed my Country says:

    It’s about time these disgusting freeloading Unions were abolished. They are dinosaurs and have no place in a modern democracy.

  18. 18
    Mitch says:

    Where is the evidence that Pickles is refusing to back down? The DCLG quote above seems to accept the decision?

    Typical Pickles – bluff and bluster, but no real b*lls.

  19. 19
    Independent observer says:


    Thank you for the steyn commentator reference

    His article repeats much of what some of us havecsaid here since day 1 ofbthiscwarmongering madness

    And an increasing number of sane US conservatives and libertarians are saying the same thing

    There is NO PLAN behind any of this warmongering

    Only a real danger of supporting Al Q

    Like the neo con war in Iraq produced an Iranian ally

  20. 20
    Neo Liblabcons says:

    You sir are a little Englander

  21. 21
    UKIP or bust says:

    A gret little film banned by the unions in Wales (they owned the cinimas).

    The unions trashed every big industry in this country during the 1960s, 70s. and 80s, and stood silent while jobs were moved abroad during the reign of terror.
    Then as soon as thier beloved ‘screw the workers party’ were booted out in 2010 they wanted to create havoc again.

    Utter commie shite.

  22. 22
    Sall E B A'Cow says:

    Serwotka, Welsh twat, I wouldn’t let him serwat my wotka.

  23. 23
    Our kid says:

    “It’s a good job folk who mek planes am technical”

    Yow’ve gorra get it roight ay ya?

  24. 24
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    What is the £90k for?

    Check off is not the employer paying the union subs but the employer collecting the subs by deducting from an employees pay for the union. For which they can deduct a fee.

    I would rack the fee up as high as possible and get the union to pay into depaymental coffers.

  25. 25
    Stephanie Flanders says:

    Which of the two Ed’s fathered Allegra Stratton’s baby?

  26. 26
    Dudley Zoo says:

    Yow’ve gorra get roight fust toime kidda

  27. 27
    Bonar Law says:

    No, NOT “Pickles’ spokesperson says …”. You mean, “Pickles’ SPOKESMAN says …” Do cut out the politically correct mangling of the English language!

  28. 28
    Penfold says:

    I have to pay my prof fees myself, my employer is not interested in increasing payroll costs.
    So why should the taxpayer fund Unions’ admin costs.
    Members can pay their own fees, its called a Standing Order or Direct Debit from your bank account.

    Another cosy little back-scratching deal from the Blair years.

    And, what about the Union Modernisation Fund, blatant bit of gerrymandering with tax payers monies.

  29. 29
    Plane rubbish says:

    One can imagine if John Prescott made an aircraft

    It would be a piece of shit

  30. 30
    Penfold says:

    Ya, just like those useless bastards with the Comet.

  31. 31
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    The employees handbook usually forms no part of your terms and conditions of employment but this being the government it may well be. Alternatively it the EH may be covered by the union recognition agreement. In either case the department should do what all senisble companies do – reduce the content of the contract of employment and recognition agreement to the bare minimum and have the rest sit outside. It is much harder to get support for a strike to change a recognition agreement than a change in pay and conditions. If they cant get agreement then serve notice on the recognition agreement and the worst that can happen is statutory recognition that only covers pay, holidays etc.

  32. 32
    Independent observer says:

    Rather meaningless since I am neither an Englishman nor living in England!

    Try again…

  33. 33
    Owen Jones says:

    From Owen Jones, a very happy Rosh Hashana to all the brave IDF soldiers!

  34. 34
    broderick crawford says:

    Pupils ‘must learn workplace bullshit’

    GCSE pupils should learn the superfluous bullshit needed for the modern workplace, according to employers.

    They warned that many school leavers are unable to bother colleagues into sponsoring them for a fun run, talk at length about their dinner plans or write arsey notes about unwashed mugs.

    Businessman Bill McKay said: “Too many young people enter the workplace unaware that at least 60% of their time will be spent chatting, bickering and engaging in juvenile politics.

    “One young lass didn’t understand there was a rigid hot drink rota that fills people with smouldering resentment if every single cuppa is not reciprocated.

    “She’s been here a week now, and not once have I heard her complain about the smokers outside the foyer making the company look unprofessional.”

    Business leaders now want the government to change the national curriculum to include skills ranging from hoarding magic markers to whining about the canteen closing at 6pm, thus inconveniencing late-working staff with no social life.

    A Department of Education spokesman said: “Business leaders have told us they want more petty-minded workaholic losers, and it is the duty of the education system to provide them.

    “We’re planning to get rid of GCSE Maths and English and replace them with subjects like GCSE Obsessing About How Long Your Colleagues Take For Lunch.

    “Ultimately our goal is that every pupil will be the sort of co-worker you really try to avoid getting the train home with.”

  35. 35
    Owen Jones says:

    Right on Handy. You are one of us.

  36. 36
    Handycock (Former Director of BBC Daytime Club) says:

    Thanks Owen. Boaz.

  37. 37
    Blue Peter Goldfish says:

    Sounds like he would have more success trying to pick a lilly.

  38. 38
    broderick crawford says:


    Market dips on shrinking of Beckham’s balls
    THE FTSE 100 has dipped after photographs showed a sharp reduction in the size of David Beckham’s testicles.

    The pictures for H&M show the star’s genitalia to have shrunk by as much as 60 per cent, which experts fear will leave the UK struggling to compete in international markets.

    Market analyst Tom Booker said: “When Gordon Brown, in one of his first acts of Chancellor, announced that the value of sterling would be pegged to David Beckham’s pan-sexual attractiveness it made perfect sense.

    “But it was not to be, like so many other late 90s certainties, such as the coolness of combat pants or Anthea Turner and Grant Bovey’s eternal love.”

    Meanwhile, George Osborne wants to link British currency to a more lasting benchmark, such as Jason Statham’s twice-yearly production of mediocre but vaguely entertaining action films.

  39. 39
    Empty Ed says:

    I am blowing bubbles

    Bubbles in my bath

    My guru, Maurice Glasman, expert on football and dodgy sports, tells me that it is the only thing I am good at

    Oh well, Justine stll loves me, poor thing

  40. 40
    broderick crawford says:

    paternatity leave ??

    is that only given to daddies with man boobs ?

  41. 41
    Wankers Unite says:

    What a set of tossers.

  42. 42
    Blind_leading_the_blind says:

    Well that went well – only £167,899,750,000 to go, and we’ll have the deficit cracked

  43. 43
    Anonymous says:

    “on a technicality” – I suppose you would say that being found not guilty was being “let off on a technicality”, too?

  44. 44
    Xavier Onassis says:

    Absolutely right! PCS is a collection of dinosaur-like old unionists and the socialist workers party (is that where the name Ser Wot ka comes from?)

    I used to be a civil servant and refused to join this leftist mob. They need teaching a lesson, pity Pickles can’t be the one to do it. Cameron never will.

  45. 45
    Objective Observer says:

    Interesting Handy that since you have been running Portsmouth for many years, you have achieved:

    1. It is one of the most, if not t the most, deprived city in the south.
    2. It has one of the highest levels of violent assault in the country.
    3. It has one of the highest levels of criminal damage in the country.
    4. It has one of the highest levels of bicycle theft in the country.
    5. The record of achievement in it’s schools is 4th from the bottom in the entire country.
    6. It has the highest level of politicians who are members of the Freemasons who are / were p*dos, for example your MP predecessor when you won your bye election, Ralph Bonner Pink.
    What is really going on in Portsmouth?

  46. 46
    Handycock, whipping it out says:

    Get your laughing tackle round this darling.. Portsmouth belongs to me and my boys and the Lodge. It always had and it always will. Boaz.

  47. 47
    A chair says:

    I quite agree.

  48. 48
    Demetrius says:

    Fuck off you boring Hunt

  49. 49
    Eeyore says:

    Wot bollox.

    The Comet was the first jetliner ever and a magnificent tribute to the ingenuity and skill of the de Havilland people who built her. In those days Britain led the world in technological innovation. It also happened to be one of the most beautiful aircraft ever built.

    The phenomenon of metal fatigue leading to explosive decompression was what brought the planes down – something never before encountered in aviation. It was a terrible tragedy for the victims and their families and crippled Britain’s lead, allowing the USA to step in and become virtual monopoly supplier of jet passenger aircraft for a generation, but it was not predictable. Once the disasters had happened, the company laboured mightily to discover the cause, which they did, and which became public property that has led to the high levels of aircraft safety we now enjoy.

    Not bad for a bunch of ‘useless bastards’, some might say.

  50. 50
    Eeyore says:

    If you’re really interested, read the detective novels of GRAHAM HURLEY, set in Portsmouth and utterly brilliant.

  51. 51
    Eeyore says:


  52. 52
    trolls are tossers says:

    If so the whole of Newcastle must be on paternity leave.

  53. 53
    Anonymous says:

    Love it! :-)

  54. 54
    Not a union member says:

    Employment is NOT a democracy. Employees need a voice to represent them to employers (who hire specialists to deal with employees).

  55. 55
    Jimmy says:

    “Serwotka’s claim that DCLG is wasting taxpayers’ money is risible”

    Are you saying the salad dodger’s going to make up the 90k he just pissed away out of his own pocket?

  56. 56
    Jimmy says:

    Well the technicality was that the other side was right and they were wrong. He can always do what Dunce Smith did and change the law retrospectively so that they won.

  57. 57
    Major Disaster says:

    Displaced Brummie you’ve used that line about cancelling her membership before, change the record…

  58. 58
    Have a Go Joe says:

    Is the dinner on the table Mabel?

  59. 59
    Rightwinggit says:

    Courtesy of The Daily Mash (again)

  60. 60

    TRULEY the heir to Blair!!!!

  61. 61
    Steve says:

    The government is running scared of ordinary working men and women coming together (which is the definition of union) and standing up to them. This was all about making it difficult to join a union. PCS has no political fund to any party. New Labour attacked working people just like the Tories are doing.

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