August 28th, 2013

WATCH: Farage on Syria

Only one leader coming out against intervention so far. Nigel Farage asks whose side we are on, whether firing cruise missiles into Damascus will make anything better and why we should trust the government when they say there is “no doubt” Assad is responsible. It is the populist position…

Via @liarpoliticians

255 Comments

  1. 1
    GAS says:

    Until the poll showing the public were against intervention UKIP had kept their cards close to their chest. Cheap populist politicking

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      Tooth fairy says:

      Rubbish, UKIP have been against these illegal wars for ages.

      It is not ‘populist’ it is common sense.

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        what a plonker. says:

        I never thought that he would be on the same side as Galloway.

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          Mitch says:

          Happening to agree from a mostly different standpoint isn’t really “on the same side”.

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          • Demos says:

            The cream of any leadership [i.e. Farage in this case] always rises to the top in crisis situations.

            They always do.

            Remember WW2.

            Vote UKIP

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          • But, he's still a clown says:

            Steady on

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          • Well said, Nigel Farage! says:

            I’m a member of the Conservative Party and a hard working activist. I am totally against taking action in Syria for all the reasons Mr Farage gives.

            I am not on the same side as Mr Galloway, Putin or the Chinese.

            I am on the same side as the 77% who yesterday signed the Telegraph’s poll against involvement in Syria, the people who see an attack on Syria as just another Kosovo and Iraq.

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          • Unspun says:

            While the press likes to portray UKIP as garrulous right wingers always ready for a fight with Johnny Foreigner, it is important to point out that UKIP has been opposed British involvement in all the recent foreign wars which the LibLabCon have lost.

            In choosing to go to war the elite have shown little regard for whether their is any popular public support for actions taken in the name of the British people. They just press ahead, starting unwinnable wars, without proper aims or planned outcomes, fought in places no-one has heard of, for reasons which no one understands or has any commitment to.

            UKIP have always said that the UK is not the worlds Policeman, we will strive to protect our own interests but we won’t meddle in affairs that are not our business, preferring instead to let them sort themselves out. When UKIP looks out into the world they do so with a view to trading and creating prosperity rather than poking our noses into other peoples lives at the end of a gun.

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          • Whippersnapper2 says:

            That’s why he calls himself a plonker QED………

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        • 28
          Fishy says:

          UKIP on the same side as Putin and the Chinese.

          Probably explains why they teamed up with the Socialists in Norfolk

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      • 140
        Simon B says:

        No, it’s traitorous nonsense. Our Boys are just itching to do their job: go kill a bunch of mu3lims. The arms and reconstruction industries (and their shareholders) will benefit greatly from this war, and thus our economy will improve even further. War is always good for business, and if you don’t like capitalism, go live in North Korea. Like it or not, the US and UK are now the world’s policemen and we have a duty to go kick some arse.

        Guido is right on this, Farage is wrong.

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      • 171
        Anonymous says:

        Populist is what the elite know its popular but not with them.

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      • 226
        Jimmy says:

        To be fair to Biggles, the British far right has traditionally favoured appeasement. And let’s face it, if he even he thinks an operation involving aircraft is ill considered you have to listen.

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    • 11
      Maq­boul says:

      Doing what the vast majority of the nation wants is “cheap populist politicking”? And why do you need polls to tell you the obvious?

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    • 19
      Tories can be bought easily says:

      Hague needs to be indicted at the Hague. I wonder if Mossad still have the compromising video tapes.

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    • 23
      Here we go again... sigh says:

      Utter claptrap and I suggest you research your position before you make a complete arse of yourself in future.

      UKIP have been against any involvement in Syria since the very start, just because we are ramping up to military action and the public are beginning to form an opinion on this AND this chimes with what UKIP have been saying all along does not make it populist.

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    • 43
      An Ordinary Shire Bloke says:

      You call it populist Guido as some sort of put down.

      I would label it as a sensible and measured position.

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    • 63
      Johnny Norfolk says:

      Ukip said the same as this in June. The complete opposite of what you have just said.

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    • 74
      Keitho says:

      They seem to not understand that being amongst the victors in WWII brings responsibilities and obligations. That is why there are only five permanent members of the UNSC, with vetoes.

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      • 85
        The German Economy says:

        Victors !!! – PMSL, ROTFL, LOL, etc

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      • 116
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        WWII ended 70 years ago. Times have changed since then. For a start, Germany and Japan have 2 of the strongest global economies, The UK, France and Russia are shadows of their former glories and the USA is in a state of advanced senility having elected a commie as POTUS. The history of the UNSC is one of the most inglorious episodes in global politics.

        Liddell-Hart, himself a victim of chemical warfare, pointed out in a little-known treatise that a chemical weapon was no more frightful than any other weapon and that dying slowly and in great pain from a bullet in the gut was just as fatal as dying quickly from a chemical weapon.

        The West’s intervention in the ME since Suez has brought only greater disruption to the people who live there, and the resentment caused by de facto colonialisation has been the fertile breeding ground for a fundamentalist, populist islam which is hostile to the West. Doing more of the same to settle things down is insane. Having totally fucked things up, the best thing the West can do is keep their noses out of affairs which are not theirs and leave people to choose for themselves the way they want to conduct their affairs.

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    • 91
      Michel de Nostradamus says:

      The prophecy is that if Dave attacks he goes the way of the dodo.
      Successful wars are soooo last century.

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    • 114
      Propaganda Watch says:

      The timing speaks more to the news cycle that any particular agenda or strategy of UKIP. Polls come in against, so they put Nigel on hoping to make the case that being against is ‘fruitcake’ talk, and subsequently fail.

      If you listen closely to what Nigel actually says, and what UKIPs position is, things are not quite so clear cut.

      i) They do not rule out military action: This is important as they do leave the door open to intervention, however, this is with a lot of sensible caveats.

      ii) They point out the obvious flaws to immediate action:

      a) Two wrongs do not make a right: Killing people with a cruise missile because someone thinks that some gas may have been used by another to kill others makes absolutely no sense. By this logic we should kill Blair immediately.

      b) What happens if you collapse the regime ? ie. With no clear replacement government available, you will inflict more harm by destroying the state and likely grant power to the ‘AQ’ insurgents, who the BBC likes to label ‘rebels’.

      Both of these points strongly suggest the policy is all about supporting terrorism. WTF is a relevant question.

      iii) They do ask for some more thought to be put in. By this they mean to have some sort of debate, as is the norm in democratic countries.

      Dave and his spin machine, as with Blair, will paint that as delaying tactics of the weak who wish to allow more to die unnecessarily. Glossing over the fact that ‘surgical’ strikes are a myth and the civilian casualties of a Western intervention up front and moving forward will be much larger than the total casualties thus far.

      The BBC are also mis-leading on the chemical weapons convention. Syr!a is not signed up to this, and the conventions they are signed up to say nothing about the use of such weapons when war has not been formally declared.

      BBC lying is nothing new though: They want a diversion from Savile.

      The real question that needs to be asked is:

      Have either the Syr!an people or the Syr!an government asked for international assistance.

      Application through the UN is the correct path.

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    • 130
      Voter says:

      UKIP has consistently opposed British involvement in Syria, with its Deputy Leader, Paul Nuttall, saying this in February 2012 on the BBC’s Question Time, of which a clip has been placed on the UKIP website.

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    • 150
      Faceless Bureaucrat says:

      Seems Farage is the ony politician speaking sense at the moment. Having a punch-up is one thing, but at least ensure you are beating-up the right guy before you start…

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    • 176
      Fag End says:

      Sorry what is wrong with populist? A bit more might get us a government that is closer to what is really going on.

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    • 225
      Charles says:

      All wars are Talmudic., Mel Gibson was right and the hollo caust is total bull!

      Good luck shab bat go yim. Your kids will curse your graves when they find out you sold them into slavery!

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    • 254
      Anonymous says:

      GAS stop lying

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  2. 2
    Gorgeous George says:

    Guido how dare you say it’s the populist position.

    There is only one demagogue and it’s MEEEEEEEEEEE !!!

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  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    1

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  4. 4
    Ed Miliband says:

    I have been rushed to hospital and placed on a vacillator.

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  5. 5
    Steve Miliband says:

    What I really want to know is what does Hugh Grant think we should do?

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  6. 6
    Mary Whitehouse says:

    Why is he not in the cabinet security meeting

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  7. 7
    Owin Jones says:

    Owen Jones is firing on all cylinders today. Few are safe.

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    Anonymous says:

    For all their claims to be the inheritors of Churchill, its clear they would have spent the 30s calling him a warmonger and proclaiming the Britain had no place interfering in foreign affairs.

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      Cameron's troll army are as shite as he is says:

      What an idiotic statement. The comparison is trite and frankly, laughable.

      Are you a stupid lefty who compares the fabled ‘window tax’ with the treatment of the Juice in 1930’s Germany?

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    • 180
      Fag End says:

      A position that this country really should have adopted in 1914. We squandered the heritage of 300 years of wealth in the first 50 years of the 20th Century and have been in the shit ever since.

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    The strikes will amount to nothing like Farage says says:

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-said-to-clear-out-security-installations-ahead-of-attack/

    “The Syrian regime was reportedly evacuating strategic security centers Wednesday amid mounting signs of an impending Western attack on military targets in the country. According to activists quoted in a report in the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya media channel, Syria was abandoning command centers and government security offices — sites that it suspects will be targeted in a possible Western strike. New facilities were being set up in secret locations, some of which were reportedly within walking distance of the former centers, and in alternative sites, such as in schools. Trucks were deployed to vacate some of the regime’s main security centers. “

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  10. 16
    Consipracy Nut says:

    Isaiah 17:1

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  11. 17
    Tojo says:

    At last, one lone voice of common sense

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      The British Public says:

      Plus the majority of the british population!.

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      Lord Stansted says:

      Agree. After the antics of B£liar, do Dave and the Chosen One really think joe-public will believe them?

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      • 76
        Jooboys r us says:

        They’re all pretty straight kind of guys. (Apart from Dave of course, who’s a tubby bumboy).

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      • 133
        Alki Campbell ... hic says:

        Just shows the standing of Tone and his cronies in the UK.
        Few believe politicians now, especially when they speak.

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  12. 29
    Mr Pedantic says:

    Syria hasn’t signed the UN Chemical Weapons Treaty, so it’s use of them is legal under international law.

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    • 33
      Mitch says:

      Murder is illegal everywhere?

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      • 39
        Dr Dav1d Ke11y says:

        You think?

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        What is your point? says:

        By cruise missile, by bullets, by napalm, by sword, by rope, they are all legal but by gas is somehow worse?

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          Mitch says:

          It is worse, actually, although of course any state-sponsored murder is abhorrent. My point is that states cannot be allowed to murder people, particulalry by weapons of mass destruction, or try and avoid justice by what they happen to have signed or not signed.

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          • Cameron's a war mongering maggot, just like his hero Bliar says:

            The proof you have for that statement is?

            Oh, that’s right you don’t have any, just a few un-attributable quotes from unknown and un-named ‘security sources’ and ‘intelligence operatives’, who ‘believe’ who, what and why, these weapons ‘may’ have been used.

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          • Mitch says:

            I agree. But, what can we do? Intervene and probably make the situation worse; or stand by and watch innocent people being killed by ‘somebody’?

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          • Grumpy Old Man says:

            How would you rather die? In agony over days with a bullet in the gut or in seconds from a chemical weapon?

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          • Anon says:

            Weapons of mass destruction – gas….!
            100,000 have been killed in Syria by conventional steel and gunpowder.
            Several 100 have been killed by gas.

            This obsessions with chemical weapons is trite and logically indefensible.

            The cruise missiles will kill many thousands of people more than the gas did. It is a morally and logically flawed justification which has disgustingly been promoted by our traitorous and complicit MSM.

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          • Fag End says:

            Death from any modern weapon is pretty awful. Yes chemical weapons add the extra horror of being WMDs. But we are still at the mercy of information that is unreliable and unverifiable. Nor is it clear why Britain feels the need to be part of any military action? Sweden is not sending forces to the region nor is Germany. We can and should support the UN in it’s investigations but we also need to accept that if there is no clear evidence this is a situation that it is best not to act.

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  13. 30
    Julia Middleton CEO Common Purpose says:

    I will be opening a Common Purpose Branch in Syria soon.

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  14. 34
    CIA says:

    Definitely wasn’t us…

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      Al Queeeeeeedaaaa says:

      We wouldn’t do it.
      We have have nothing to gain from releasing chemical weapons !

      And if you don’t agree with us, we will cut your head off.

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  15. 35
    The man behind the grassy knoll says:

    It was the US OF A that gassed Syria.

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      Dave & Ed Millimarx says:

      it was CFR Shills who organised this
      and Prince Bandit “Bush” of Saud that
      organised the payments, for gas delivery.

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  16. 37
    The British Media are cuunts says:

    My moniker say sit all.

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  17. 41
    BBC says:

    Over there,
    Over there,
    Send your wor-king class kids over there.

    The BBC is cumming,
    at the prospect of Assads bumming,
    And we wont back off till your bodies blown all over,over there.

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  18. 42
    Not the world's policeman says:

    Cameron and Clegg don’t want us “to idly stand by” : presumably there are 195 or so other countries planning to do just that. It’s time some of them stepped up to the plate and perhaps DC will call on them rather than foolishly ignore the UK electorate who do NOT want to become involved.

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    • 47
      Call me Dave says:

      I may not be a policeman but I would love to show the boys my ‘bobbies helmet’

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    • 52
      Mitch says:

      Reality check on the news last night with the analyst saying the US will fire off 100+ cruise missiles and we’ll fire 3 or 4, and then have to come back to base to re-load.

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      • 231
        William Vague says:

        No, the US will fire One missile,
        then a Russian Battlecruiser will
        sink the ship that launched it to
        the bottom of the Mediterranean.

        There will be no futher retaliation.

        No more missiles will be fired.

        USA will slink away in disgrace

        Some people (not arabs) will go on trial
        for these mass murders which already
        took place.

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  19. 43
    albacore says:

    When Dave ain’t kow-towing to the E U
    He lets O’Bummer tell him what to do
    Every now and then, wouldn’t it be great –
    A P M that cared about Britain’s fate?

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    • 93
      Heel Patch says:

      Cameron still believes in the special relationship
      The one that keeps dropping our country in the shit
      Wedding bells will shortly Ring
      Bend over backwards and let them in.

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  20. 46
    Heel Patch says:

    Still haven’t seen a shred of credible evidence that any chemical weapons have been deployed, and if they have by whom?, and the moral position for intervention is also somewhat shaky, if you are on death row it can only be a matter of personal preference whether you are despatched by a ‘friendly’ cruise missile, an HE packed drone or lethal injection (a chemical weapon championed by G. Bush in his Alabama days).

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    • 75
      T. B£iar says:

      Well, look, everyone is entitled to their views. But I have to say that your argument is much too sensible to be understood by anyone. You are forgetting that there’s money involved here. If we get rid of Assad then we’ll (well, myself and my chums) will make millions from the gas pipeline from the Gulf to Turkey. Pip – pip- got to go. There’s a war to start and I’m rather good at that.

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      • 81
        Jooboys r us says:

        If only Tony were still in charge – a really classy guy.

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          Cameron's a war mongering maggot, just like his hero Bliar says:

          It really is a shame Bliar is ‘only’ making £25 million a year these days as a financial consultant and Middle East ‘peace’ envoy.

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    • 185
      Anonymous says:

      You haven’t seen a shred of credible evidence that Assad used the weapons, because there isn’t a shred of evidence he did….

      However, the rebels have already used chemical weapons a number of times in Syria as reported. And the rebels have a large motive to continue using them and blame Assad.

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  21. 55
    bs says:

    Three problems:

    a. How can we “prove” that Assad’s regime used gas? I accept that this may be overcome with reliable evidence, but I’ve not seen any yet.

    b. Is an attack simply to “punish” Assad’s regime for using gas lawful? For that I think it should have UN support, or be needed to protect people against a humanitarian disaster.

    c. Leading on from b, how is a punitive attack going to protect people in Syria or improve things for them there (or elsewhere)?

    I can see the answer is that attacking Assad in retaliation makes things better because it will stop him and others resorting to use of gas in the future, but I’d think that such an operation needs the backing of the UN to have such a clear global meaning. I guess if China and Russia abstain rather than veto and a vote is won that’s better.

    Also, from a practical point of view, if an attack breaches security at a gas installation so that some of the real crazies can get hold of it – what might they do with it? Are such people beyond attacking their own people (or, much better, Israel) and blaming it on Assad?

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    • 69
      The British Public says:

      Well said, keep out of Syria, its their civil war let them get on with it.

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    • 79
      T. B£iar says:

      Arguments like these never bother me.

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        Thuggy Al says:

        Do you need another dossier Tony?
        Scarlett will approve whatever we say, and tubby Goldsmith is onside with any legal niceties that we need to cover.
        Jack Straw says that he’s depressed, so hey-ho, who gives a flying fooook for that?

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    • 90
      Keitho says:

      The problem with the UNSC is that Russia and China have successfully blocked every attempt to achieve a diplomatic resolution to the Syrian crisis. That is why we are here.

      If Syria is not penalised for using gas on its citizenry then presumably it is okidoki for anyone anywhere to do so. This isn’t really about a civil war it’s about the Responsibility to Protect that is the UN’s mandate. A mandate it is unable to perform thanks to Russia and China for whatever their reasons might be.

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      • 119
        Propaganda Watch says:

        Totally false.

        The Russ!ans in particular have been trying to get to the negotiating table, but the US and France have refused to show up.

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    • 126
      lojolondon says:

      1. Obama opened the door to this whole scam by announcing that use of chemical weapons would be a red line and that the USA would intervene if they were used.
      2. Since that foolish announcement there have been a few alleged Sarin attacks.
      3. Each one was proven to have been carried out by the FSA, as they tried to enable the eager USA and UK to have a ‘reason’ to enter the war.
      4. The West has been extremely duplicitous, because they did not respond to these previous attacks by attacking FSA.
      5. Assad is winning, he is driving the FSA back on every front. He is taking over Damascus. If he was going to use chemical weapons, we can surmise he would use them on enemy soldiers, not on civilians. After two years of conventional warfare, which he is winning, would he really risk the wrath of the West and their entry into the war by gassing civilians?? This entirely defies logic.
      6. There is a strong feeling that the USA / UK want to engage Assad to remove the only nation in the Middle East that is friendly with Iran, no more and no less.
      7. The whole of the UK is totally opposed to another war, it is less popular a subject than HS2 if that were possible, the coalition will engage in this escapade at their peril.
      8. The site of the attacks is in an FSA-controlled area. The rebels, far from helping the UN to get to the site, are refusing to guarantee safe passage, and sniping at UN patrols who are trying to gather information, not the sign of innocence in this matter!

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  22. 57
    Owen Jones says:

    This war is the start of the Communist revolution in this country.

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  23. 60
    Engineer says:

    Just out of passing interest, suppose the US, UK, France and whoever else do end up lobbing assorted whizz-bangs at Syria. Suppose we hit one or more of their (alledged) chemical weapon stores. There’s a big bang, and nasty chemicals get spread around the neighbourhood, distributed by the wind. Innocent civilians get caught up in the outfall. Are the US/UK/France/whoever then responsible under international law for the consequences of their actions in blowing up the chemical dumps? Will such an action irritate Alky Ada, dodgy Iranians, and Gawd knows what other nasty parties?

    Maybe we should have a careful think before poking a wasp’s nest with a stick.

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    • 66
      Heel Patch says:

      Yes, and it’s a civil war internal to Syria at the moment but by the time these meddling dickheads have finished there will be whizz bangs flying all over the place.

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      • 73
        The British Public says:

        Once Assad sees the end coming I think he might decide to dispose of his stockpile of SCUD missles complele with assorted warheads, I wonder we he might send them?.

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      • 83
        Engineer says:

        Indeed, but it’s a civil war with some fairly serious outside backers of the various participants. Backers such as Iran and Saudi Arabia. Press the wrong political and military buttons, and WW3 is a very real possibility.

        If they want to sort out their differences, let them. I don’t see any benefit to the UK (or the US, France or whoever) in becoming embroiled in other peoples’ wars.

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    • 88
      Jeeeez... says:

      Well, according to some pro-intervention spokesman on 5 Live this morning, he says that we would fire missiles that contain their own chemicals that would neutralise the chemicals released from the exploding chemical weapons.

      Simple.

      Nothing to worry about.

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      • 95
        Engineer says:

        So now we know exactly what chemical weapons are stored in which dumps? Our nice chemicals are guaranteed to neutralise all their nasty chemicals?

        Hmmm….

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  24. 61
    It's all BongoBongo Land to me says:

    Of course UKIP oppose intervention. Watching Arabs slaughter other Arabs is probably their idea of a fun day out.

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    • 71
      The court of public opinion says:

      Sounds rather entertaining and far better than them slaughtering our boys.

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    • 173
      Anonymous says:

      Its all land to me…

      Your comments are weak, poor and to be frank, disrespectfull to the poor people of Syria on both sides who have died in this awful war.

      Farage and UKIP are the only party who have had the guts to come out and say this proposed attack is wrong. They deserve respect for that position.

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      • 234
        Big Ben says:

        As Tony Ben would say,
        Farage is like a signpost,
        always pointing in the same way,
        even when a strong wind blows against.

        Hague & Cameron & Obama & Kerry,
        are like weathervanes, and they will
        point whichever way the wind blows
        them Sadly most of the “wind” does
        emanate from their fatuous gobs.
        Soon it will emanate from their rear
        ends, along with much diarrhoea.

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    Charlie says:

    Obama said chemical weapons was red line. How do we know that some islamicist group did not let off the chemical weapons in order to bring USA, UK and France into war ? Would islamicist groups be any better than Assad? Any vaguely democratic prop-wester groups appear very weak . If the islamicist groups did take over, they would probably massacre the Alawites, Christians and any Sunnni pro-wester democratic groups .

    Groups which are prepared to behead priest with a knife( surrounded by a large cheering group) and kill , cut out and eat a human organ; are not going to introduce a tolerant and free society. Let the Arab and Islamic countries sort out Syria.

    If the West become involved, the Arab/Islamic Countries will only resent us because we have shown them incapable of solving their problems.

    If people are against colonialism, then countries should be left to sort out their problems . Western involvement just demonstrates countries lack of competence

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    • 141
      Anne says:

      Can we not just develop shale gas and not have to worry at all about the Middle East for our energy supplies? Leave them to get on with it, as we do with inter-necine wars in Central Africa? (Not my original thought – I read it some time ago in an article by Matthew Parris. I don’t agree with much of what he says, but this time he seemed spot-on.)

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    • 174
      The BBC says:

      We cannot compute this logic, error error error.
      Please delete from system.
      It does not fit our common purpose.

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  26. 67
    Diane Abbotapotumus says:

    Anybody want to hear my opinion?

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    Mmmmm... says:

    Looking forward to reading what the very-carefully-worded motion will be, to be put before Parliament on Thursday…

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  28. 72
    Johnny Norfolk says:

    This is what Farage said on the 13th of June on QT.

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      what a plonker. says:

      I see in that clip George Galloway nodding in agreement.

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      • 101
        Diane Abbotapotumus says:

        And I was nodding off.

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      • 109
        There's only one plonker here, and it's you. says:

        So, by extension, you think we should arm alky aida? And you think it would be OK for them to turn our own weapons on British troops?

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        • 237
          Drowning not waving says:

          Al pish

          it’s an invention of the CFR & CIA
          “The Dossier” or “The File” of USA
          backed Arab Agents. That’s who
          so called rebels/enemy really are.

          Wake up and do some research

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      • 175
        Anonymous says:

        Farage was spot on in that clip, he got a big chear from the usually labour lefty audience as well.

        Interestingly it shows UKIP have been very clear with their policies and views on intervention in the middle east for months now.

        A very different situation from the arrogent LibLabCon who treat the UK voters with complete and utter contempt with their disgusting trigger happy egotistical addiction to war…

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    • 115
      UKIP Central says:

      Yes, we won’t ever confront difficult issues. We just say whatever we think Joe Public wants to hear. When Nigel next appears on QT he’ll say that the UK should have 1,000 new hospitals and 10 new aircraft carriers.

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      • 121
        War Watch says:

        The 10 new aircraft carriers are needed.

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      • 179
        Anonymous says:

        Central..

        It is extremely disrespectful to the people of Syria who have been killed in this awful war to try and make cheap political points like you have above.

        If you can, debate the issues, if you cant, eff off and leave it to the older boys and girls.

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        • 182
          Anonymous says:

          It is extremely disrespectful of you to pretend that UKIP gives a **** about the people of Syria. And to use them to attempt to deflect criticism of Mr Bandwagon Farage is beneath contempt.

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        • 183
          Anonymous says:

          It’s disrespectful of you to use the people of Syria to deflect criticism of Saint Nigel. And don’t try to pretend that UKIP give a stuff about them either.

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        • 189
          Anonymous says:

          Farage has always been very clear on UK involvement in foreign wars.

          As proven in that 3 month old question time clip.

          He is against the UK’s intervention in Syria’s war – simple as that.

          If there is any contempt, it is that which the LibLabCon treat the UK public.

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    • 255
      Anonymous says:

      I love Nigel

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  29. 77
    fearless Frank says:

    As usual UKIP are on the side of the majority of British people.

    And LibLabCon aren’t.

    Fawkes has revealed himself as Cameron’s best boy bum-sucker.

    Like

    • 86
      Jooboys r us says:

      cocksucker please – 8illy and fatarry do the bumsucking.

      Like

    • 94
      Little Boy Blue says:

      Great politician. Wait for the polls and then come down on the side of the majority.

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    • 181
      Common Sense says:

      Maybe Guido’s “support” of the “intervention” being proposed by Parliament is deliberately “faux…”

      Maybe he is trying to show how supporting the “party line” sounds pathetic when right minded independent thinkers repeat the mantra… maybe he wants to sound trite and shallow, so it reflects on the MSM and MP’s and highlights their utter contempt for the UK voters and any kind of reasoned logic ?!

      Just a thought..

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  30. 82
    Frankfurt School says:

    Our plan for a marxist world government is going to plan.

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  31. 89
    Little Boy Blue says:

    Sky News Advert.

    Hundreds of people are dying each week because of lack of water.

    For just £10 a month you can help end this tragedy.

    Please Give Generously.

    Thank You.

    The UK Health Secretary.

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  32. 99
    Leftard says:

    I HATE it when politicians do things that are popular.

    The little people should accept the judgement of their betters, particularly when it is in regards to issues that people like me have a curiously emotionalised investment in such as immigration, the NHS and unions.

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  33. 102
    Nick says:

    i think this is typical of all government’s and has been shown to be the case for the past 20 years in which government’s like Syria/Iraq/ UK/china/Zimbabwe kill groups of people and blame others or their departments for the deaths of those people who have died but never themselves the story is always the same it’s not me GUV

    Just as David Cameron blames the killing of the sick and disabled going through the welfare benefit reforms on the sick themselves for failing to fill their forms out correctly leading the their benefits being stopped the Syrian regime blame al-Qaida for the chemical attack
    All that ends up happening is that the USA gets involved with a missile strike and then gets to have to take over irrespective of any other views on the table worldwide

    All this does is encourage bad relations worldwide and gives rise to a never ending world of war with the masters north Korea looking on with a sense of don’t mess with us

    The usa would never touch north Korea for the very good reason they would lose very quickly despite verbally they would win
    The overall standard of the uk and usa governments is very poor and because they are so poor they breed poorness in the other middle eastern countries instead of what they should be inspiring to is greatness not only in themselves but for all other counties and their leaders

    This will never change all the time the likes of Cameron and his elitist attitude is around this country needs desperately to get a better leader in running the government if this country will ever be able to transform the lives not only of its own people but inspire the other leaders of the world to do good for a better future for their own people

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    • 240
      Lord Blair of the Yard says:

      Did you mean The Royal Institute for International Affairs at Chatham House ?

      You can answer the question but you are not allowed to say who told you the answer, or what the question was, or who attended, but it’s all above board though, and not at all fishy.

      Move along now, nothing to see here.

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  34. 104
    Officer Dibble says:

    An anti-interventionist policy is defensible (though not very appealing when they’re gassing kids) and consistent with libertarianism, small state, etc. I understand the argument that air strikes won’t achieve much, though at the very least they should be some deterrent to others doing likewise. The suggestion that we don’t know which side we’re on is stupid, as is the idea that we shouldn’t trust the Govt. We shouldn’t have trusted Blair, but that was obvious to many at the time.

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    • 113
      Heel Patch says:

      A well balanced and coherent argument Officer Drivel.

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    • 124
      A Libertarian says:

      Be aware that the libertarian view would totally rule out intervention period.

      The rational being that liberty extends to the boundary of your nation state and not beyond. To impose your will on those without is morally indefensible and undermines the others liberty, hence is a no no.

      War is covered by defending your own liberty from those who wish to deny.

      In this case, Syr!a is not attacking the UK or attempting to deprive us of liberty, hence there is absolutely no grounds for intervening.

      This is irrespective of what is allegedly going on in the foreign land.

      Arguments for intervention, and being unduly concerned about what happens internally in other countries, not to mention the desire to enforce a relative moral value system which is alien to others denying them the right to free determination is part of the international socialist poison which is at large.

      Libertarians within the UK should recognize the true enemy and start to engage it.

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  35. 108
    Have you noticed that the Islamic for Allah looks like the Loch Ness monster ? says:

    You tell ‘em Nige

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  36. 110
    Anonymous says:

    Forgive me for having my doubts about a leadership who declared themselves as the “Heir to Blair” and that Blair was “the master” involving themselves in yet another military intervention.

    Farage is spot on. We know of the tale of the evil Bashar al-Assad but what of the rebels? Who are they? Who leads them? What do they want from this conflict?

    There is no singular rebel force, merely a group of unorganized and ideologically contrasting factions. One would think the lessons of leaving a power vacuum would have been learnt from Iraq, but once again for some reason unbeknownst to me western forces are intervening in a chaos-ridden pit which will only result in more bloodshed, more chaos and more suffering for the Syrian people.

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    • 123
      Have you noticed that the Islamic for Allah looks like the Loch Ness monster ? says:

      The only reason I can think of is that they are frightened that somebody will do that here so they are lashing out hoping to dissuade anybody from trying it. Not that I can see it making the slightest bit of difference.

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  37. 111
    William Vague says:

    We must do this for the wee children and for regime change, which is why the UK military operation is codenamed ‘baby bashar’. Oh, wait!

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    • 127
      Savile's Legacy says:

      The UK has no moral authority in the area of defense of children whilst it actively sanctions and supports state sponsored sexual abuse and exploitation of children in its care.

      Hague has form for covering up in North Wales.

      Those crimes were far more serious with bigger impacts on the victims and society at large than any alleged foreign gas attacks against foreign children.

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  38. 125
    Such is the standing of MP's says:

    Tom Harris MP, writing in the Torygraph:

    ‘Similarly, Douglas Alexander, the Shadow Foreign Secretary, is a person of immense moral fibre whose first class judgment has never let me or our party down.’

    ‘Immense moral fibre’, my arse.

    Doesn’t Harris recall wee Dougies expenses claims?

    Oh, hang on. Wasn’t it Harris who was upset about not being able to claim for a cot and steriliser?

    So, both upstanding and honourable men then. Wankers.

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  39. 132
    Universal Hiss says:

    I totally agree with Nigel & don’t care if he is populist.What he is is right.

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  40. 138
    Cameron is a dud says:

    Populist it may be. But it also sounds right to me.

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  41. 139
    Handycock says:

    I’m against the war and I now believe ukip is my natural home.Look out Nigel here I come.

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  42. 143
    Pee Wee says:

    It’s NOT OUR SQUABBLE!
    Between the politicans cutting back on our armed forces (how many being made redundant in the Army and how few in MOD?) and constant rotations to Afghanistan we do not have the personnel to get involved in other peoples’ domestic squabbles. if the EU want to get involved – let them. If the US want to get involved (unlikely – most Americans don’t have a clue what’s outside their country unless an American is killed there) – let them. If our political leaders want to go there and fight – let them (Gallothingy one side and Millithingy the other?)
    That’s it.

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  43. 144
    Weygand says:

    ‘Democratic’ when you agree with it and ‘populist’ when you don’t.

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  44. 145
    Oh, It's a Lovely War! says:

    Brent crude futures up 6% in 48 hours
    Gold up 6% on the month
    Halliburton stock up 30% this year
    Lockwood Martin up 38% this year

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    • 241
      Pte Frazer says:

      money will be no use when you can’t grow food due to the nuclear winter, even if anyone survives the global thermonuclear war.

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  45. 147
    Honour n all that says:

    When/if its revealed the chemical gas attack was carried out by the rebels, and not Assad, I assume that cocky little bastard William Hague will resign immediately.

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  46. 149
    I d on't n eed no d octor says:

    No difference between Farage and Miliband. The wait and see what public opinion is before we announce our policy. The no leadership duo.

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  47. 156
    UKIP Voter says:

    “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 – 1860)

    First “Fruitcake” then “Clown” then “Racist”and now “Populist”
    Looks like we are past stage 1 and now comes stage 2 and 3.
    Roll on election time.

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    • 162
      Yvonne from the Colliers Arms says:

      People like you who watch people being poisoned to death in their own beds and then are happy to turn the cheek and do nothing make me sick.

      David Cameron does not think like you and that must be a good thing.

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      • 172
        SamCam says:

        That’s right Yvonne, here’s your £20

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      • 192
        Anonymous says:

        Yvonne

        Yes, its much better to kill thousands upon thousands of people with cruise missiles than watch several hundred die in a chemical weapon attack.

        Never mind the 100,000 that have already been killed in this war.

        Your obsession that chemical weapons is a “red line” that cannot be crossed is as morally bancrupt as me saying cutting out the internal organs of soldiers and eating them is a red line I do not accept can be crossed.

        Bancrupt and illogical. Run along pls..

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        • 200
          Anonymous says:

          I’m so glad that, not being a Kipper, I don’t have to think hard about which method of killing children is the more logical.

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      • 198
        ThePopulist says:

        So..

        Your answer is to drop more ordinance on the people lying in their beds?

        The rebels used chemical weapons back in May. What makes you think it wasn’t them this time, just as the UN inspectors show up, a few miles from their hotel?

        Assad is a tyrant but he’s not an idiot. He was winning, why would he do such a thing. It doesn’t make sense. And if it doesn’t make sense, someone is lying.

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  48. 160
    The Count of Blandford Forum says:

    Assad’s dad was a nasty bit of work so it can hardly come as any surprise how the son has turned out.

    Luckily in David Cameron we have a true Leader who is simply not going to turn a blind eye to mass murder on a horrific scale and is prepared to stand up and fight.

    If people don’t like it then they have the right to protest in the streets but I believe their names and addresses should be made available to us all or alternatively they be forced to wear white feathers so we will know to avoid them.

    Surprised to find Farage in the white feather camp but best we know before the next Election.

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    • 187
      Anonymous says:

      I’m not surprised. It’s the easiest thing in the world to advocate doing nothing. I expect the toughest decision Farage makes each day is how large a whisky to pour himself for breakast.

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      • 195
        Anonymous says:

        The paid trolls must be clocking on now from their Conservative aussie inspired election war room.

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      • 215
        UKIP Voter says:

        “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 – 1860)

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        • 220
          GoogleBot says:

          I too can quote philosophers and pretend to understand what they mean. Luckily I’m a bot which can’t damage the UK by actually casting a vote for a party whose ideology is rooted in Nietzsche.

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    • 201
      blahdeblah says:

      “Luckily in David Cameron we have a true Leader who is simply not going to turn a blind eye to mass murder on a horrific scale”

      Does that mean he’s going to do something about Egypt? I mean, the least he could do is stop selling them arms, right?

      Or is he, like you, just a hypocrite who engages in selective outrage depending on who’s doing the killing?

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      • 212
        Hereward the Wake says:

        Perhaps we can have these matters dealt with in the Debate tomorrow as the problems in Syria and Egypt are linked with the people revolting and being murdered .

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  49. 170
    Up the Tories says:

    Vote Tory, get a war. Vote Labour get a war. Vote LibDems get a pineless bunch of yellow bellied wishy washy cowards. I’m voting UKIP. Fed up with the the LibLabCon

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  50. 178
    Martin Luther Obama says:

    “I have a drone…”

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  51. 186
    Mar'in Loofah says:

    Have these third rate tossers learned nothing about the middle east?
    Not in my name.

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  52. 193
    ThePopulist says:

    “It is the populist position…”

    Is there something wrong with doing what the public wants Guido?

    Isn’t that the way a democracy is supposed to work. I want more populism. I don’t want to be ruled over by Eton’s next batch of lunatics.

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  53. 194
    David says:

    So, let me get this right. Opposing the remote control cold blooded murder of the citizens of a country that has not attacked us, has on intention of attacking us, and, indeed, poses no threat to us what so ever, is “populist”? Has GF been kidnapped? This blog has been hijacked by useful idiots of the welfare-warfare State.

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  54. 197
    Mar'in Loofah says:

    In the Ba’ath party.

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  55. 202
    Mar'in Loofah says:

    No politician nor family member will be harmed in the making of this war.
    No meeja bum sniffer will be discomfited.

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  56. 204
    Just sayin' says:

    Good on yer’ Nige.
    The mad neo-Imperialist Elitists in charge will do for us if they are not stopped.
    I don’t do socialism, sadly I’m on the side of the Loony Left this time.

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  57. 208
    Anonymous says:

    The video of the so called gas attack looks nothing like as lethal as a nerve agent
    would do, where are the convulsions ,the bloody vomiting,the thousands of bodies.
    The whole thing looks like one deception job aimed at the gullible idiots Hague
    Cameron ,and Obama
    They are being played like fiddles.

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    • 214
      The Count of Blandford Forum says:

      The people including women and children are dead.

      Just get Assad and his delightful wife arrested for crimes against humanity.

      A one way ticket to a friendly sunny exile is no longer an option.

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      • 245
        Carat de Dimonde says:

        - Count of Bland-Thought

        You utter twatt – there are videos of the so called rebels launching the attack. they themselves posted the videos short afterwards, and are bragging the US supplied them with the gas. they are on youtube and elsewhere.

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  58. 209
    A real right winger says:

    One positive thing about this whole depressing fiasco is that David Cameron, The Daily Mail and Guido Fawkes have shown themselves to be utter utter fuckwitted arseholes. The landscape will never be the same again after this.

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  59. 213
    Ivor Welsh says:

    This recall of Parliament and debate is going to turn out to be a waste of time and taxpayers money.

    The French are not changing their timetable and will debate the matter next week.

    Interestingly when their Ministers go on summer hols they can only go two hours plane time from Paris.

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    • 244
      medieval solution says:

      they should be chained to their desks at westminster until they have come to a peaceful agreement, and not fed either, and have the kights switched on and off every six hours, so as it seems twice as long, and then turn up the heating so as they are sweating, and then let the public in to throw rotten fruit from the balcony.

      err, or something. was that too extreme?

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  60. 216
    Wwmd says:

    With incidents like this I think “what would Maggie do?”
    And that’s normally the best way to deal. She would have considered what is best for Britains interests, not what’s best to make us look like the world police.
    And she would not be about to bomb Assad or support unknown rebels.

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  61. 218
    PeckhamPete says:

    As always, we will do whatever the US wants.

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  62. 222
    ARHCHAIRADMIRAL says:

    When will these idiots learn that the whole situation is designed to suck them in like
    the mugs that they are.
    How can anyone not see through that video must be wilfully blind.
    In any case the uk armed forces are now ,thanks to Cameron a pathetic rump
    barely able to defend the Isle of Wight,never mind interfere overseas,

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  63. 242
    Pte Frazer says:

    Ye are awe doomed,
    doomed, ah tell ye laddie, doomed.

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  64. 251
    John Tandy says:

    Its a true position. Why do politicians hate the truth so much ?

    Like

  65. 252
    REALWORLDER says:

    1£trillion in debt and that moron Hague wants to chuck missiles around,
    it is beyond madness,what is wrong with the TWAT?
    Nobody I know gives a flying fuck about Syria.

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