July 24th, 2013

POLL RESULT: 86% of Readers Say Sue Claire Perry
Guido Has Instructed Lawyers to Commence Proceedings

The people have spoken. Nearly three thousand of you voted in Guido’s consultation on whether he should sue Claire Perry for defamation after she accused him of “sponsoring” hackers to post porno pictures on her website. 2,404 co-conspirators said Guido should sue Claire Perry…

It is not as if Guido did not politely ask her to withdraw her false accusations:

Reluctantly, Guido has instructed m’learned friends who will be writing to her today…


244 Comments

  1. 1
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Its the right thing to do Guido.

  2. 2
    Chris Bryant MP says:

    You’re pants Guido!

  3. 3
    Owen Jones says:

    Hear ! Hear !

  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Hang the moron out to dry.

  5. 5
    Sally Bercow says:

    Why is Guido trending? *couldntcarelessface*

  6. 6
    Pleb says:

    She may elect for payment in kind

  7. 7

    So 86% of your following want a fight, in which they will be voyeurs. Hope you can persuade ‘er indoors to put up Fawkes Towers as collateral for the second mortgage needed to cover your costs.

  8. 8
    Pleb says:

    Piers?

  9. 9
    Schillings says:

    Super injunction anyone ?

  10. 10
    Darrow says:

    A man who takes legal advice from a poll has a fool for Lawyer.

  11. 11
    Guido says:

    No brainer. The extra traffic and clicks will more than pay for the £30 letter.

  12. 12
    Anonymous says:

    So you’re not suing over the hosting claims? Why is that then? Because you were hosting links?

  13. 13
    Guido Fawkes says:

    This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs.

  14. 14
    Bill Quango MP - x says:

    You’ve done it now! Doncha know who I am!
    I am NANNY IN CHIEF! I AM THE NEW HATTIE!
    Ministeress for finger wagging, disapproving frowns, lecturing, hectoring and badgering.

    I’ll see you in court!

    Claire Perry PmTp
    Ministeress for infobarn-superhighstreet-online-digital-madeupoffice web police.

  15. 15
    bit gay this says:

    it makes you look pretty pathetic tbh.

    the playground bully going crying to teacher when someone kicks sand in his eyes for a change.

  16. 16
    Kebab Information Service says:

    An interesting read does Cameron’s seven years at Carlton (94-01) make as their Director of Corporate Affairs.

    Including working alongside BSKyB for the ONdigital franchise and the almost wholesale destruction of the regional television network. He got a first in Philosophy and Economics (hard to believe I know) and is widely regarded as being the one person who saved the Tory party from another decade in the wilderness, appealing to the younger voter with his soundbites and youthful exuberance.

    So the fact he cannot seem to avoid making such God awful decisions is beyond my comprehension. You would have thought with a background in a corporate environment, even though a fleeting one, would have taught him to be more careful about who you are seen to mix with and how you are perceived. These lapses are much more worrying coming from someone like him – rather than a relative novice with little experience of anything.

  17. 17
    Frank J says:

    The onus of proof is on her. She has to prove he did it otherwise she loses.

  18. 18

    I think that you are right on this Paul.

  19. 19

    Well done Guido.

    Honestly think you have no other option given the circumstances. Suggest the facts here are even clearer than McAlpine v Bercow.

  20. 20
    Not really.. says:

    Spending your time reading about what a young lad did 20 years ago is more worrying, tbh. I suspect at that age he wasn’t making executive decisions.

  21. 21
    Nanny Knows Best says:

    you obviously have not used a solicitor in recent times. thirty quid may cover the postage.

  22. 22
    Mike (England) says:

    can we get her extradited or at the very least get her forced to attend an internet course so she can learn what she is talking about?

  23. 23
    Cast-Iron Guarantee says:

    Her Twitter account has gone very quiet today. Must be a very long conversation she’s having with Sun editor about Guido’s journalistic future…

  24. 24
    nellnewman says:

    The only way to deal with bullies is to face them down.

  25. 25
    The David Cameron Red Bus Service says:

    12:00:00 – Andy Coulson Express
    12:00:01 – Lynton Crosby via Ash Lane
    12:00:02 – Claire Perry School Run

  26. 26
    Mumsnet says:

    Doesn’t anyone think about the lawyers.

  27. 27
    Nicky Stads Adult Productions says:

    Nah, mate. Cretin shouldn’t have made cretinous unfounded comments then, should she?

    I think you’ll get the money shot now, Guido – I’ll get me camera!

  28. 28
    Bill Quango MP - x says:

    Probably not.
    Its much easier not to get involved in a legal hair splitting definition of hosting.

    Far, far easier to ask CP what evidence she has in support of her claim that Guido sponsored the hacking of her website.

    Here she will have to admit that she meant to say ‘encouraged people to view’ rather than actively engaged in infiltrating the code. A very different thing.
    Someone who posts pictures of a car crash does not usually automatically become responsible for the car crash.

    So, its an easier win. I doubt Guido wants a court case. Just an apology.

  29. 29
    The Court of Public Opinion says:

    Guilty as charged. Send her down.

  30. 30

    The question is, “who’s bullying who?”

  31. 31
    The Lizzud Returns says:

    I think you’re on weak ground, Guido. She clearly meant “sponsor” in the sense of “promote”. By running the story that you ran, you arguably did promote the hacking, particularly as you made approving comments about it.

  32. 32
    Peter says:

    Shouldn’t cost you a penny Guido. I’m a solicitor, and you’ve got her bang to rights. Get a lawyer on a “no win, no fee” deal. She’ll get advice to promptly apologise and make a reasonable offer before the costs get out of hand. It’ll settle at £3-5k with about the same in costs. She’ll go for it because it’s affordable at that level, whereas letting it escalate will mean a £100k costs hit.

  33. 33
    Too mant tweets makes a what? says:

    Sat at the kitchen table with the smell of fish fingers and chips cooking in the oven can lull a person into a false sense of security when they are Tweeting.

  34. 34
    Owen Jones says:

    WITHOUT PREJUDICE

    BBC News: Royal Baby Name “To Be Announced.”

    I’d thought they might have gone with something like Edward or Henry.

  35. 35
    Judge Dreadful says:

    Will you be represented by Carter Fuck?

  36. 36
    Splitting Heirs says:

    So does Iran promote Hamas, or does Iran sponsor Hamas?

  37. 37
    Owen Jones's Aunt Myfanwy, baby sitting the little tit, again! says:

    Where? Where?

  38. 38
    nellnewman says:

    she’s a politician! these people are not exactly famed for their intelligence. I would suggest sending her on a course would be a total waste of expenses.

  39. 39
    The LabLibCon says:

    Whatever we disagree with, must be proscribed and prohibited.

    It is the progressive thing to do and the way forward in a modern Europe, facing a new global future.

  40. 40
    Anonymous says:

    3 man gang bang of Guido’s choosing or she’s going down…not literally of course…unless you accepts of course

  41. 41
    Maximus says:

    It would be worth your while to dig a little deeper as to the way a position was secured at Carlton for Camoron. Hint: the White House’s verdict on first acquaintance with him was: “lightweight”.

  42. 42
    Mike Hoxard, MP, Labour says:

    Hairy cheque?

  43. 43
    The Lizzud Returns says:

    Both, according to the Oxford Thesaurus of English.

  44. 44
    Lord Whore Whore says:

    Whore, whore!

  45. 45
    Cilla Black says:

    But not according to the law unfortunately for rrr Cleeerrr

  46. 46
    Nick Clegg says:

    Really? What was the question?

  47. 47
    nellnewman says:

    she was the one making wild accusation about Guido and then threatening to talk to the Ed of the Sun as she wriggled on the hook and tried to get her details taken off the blog. That was clearly bullying.

    Guido on the other hand was simply reporting a news story which is what he does. No bullying there.

  48. 48
    The Lizzud Returns says:

    And your authority is?

  49. 49
    Dave is a liar and hates the UK says:

    Bravo Guido

  50. 50
    Maximus says:

    Clearly the line of argument a defense brief would try on. Unfortunately judges have a habit of construing words in their primary sense in the first instance to see if an argument will fly. As Guido’s brief I would want to establish if Perry’s knowledge of the “intertubes” is any better than a first year nursing student despatched to the basement to procure a “fallopian tube”.

  51. 51
    Old Chinese proverb says:

    He who seeks vengeance must dig two graves

  52. 52
    Nicky Stads Adult Productions says:

    Christ, I wouldn’t want to see that horse faced mare’s frowning badger! When MIWFS go bad!

  53. 53

    OK. What is Cameron’s size?

  54. 54
    Dweeb says:

    FAQ off.

  55. 55
    Owen Jones in the typing pool says:

    Perry: Lawyers have handed her immigration documents at Moscow Airport.

  56. 56
    Yeah, right... says:

    No. Hectoring, bossy MPs like this one need a proper kick in the arse now and again. Too many safe seats and the five year electoral cycle mean that the electorate can’t do it. Perry is the latest in a long line of attention seeking MPs using genuine public unease over an issue to further their perosnal power trip.

    Fill yer boots, Guido…

  57. 57
    Andrew Efiong says:

    I look forward to her delectable humiliation.

    Indeed she should resign. She’s been exposed as a low grade MP with little intelligence, too quick to accuse before she checks the facts.

  58. 58
    Clam says:

    If she says can you take it out of that..ask her if she has anything smaller

  59. 59
    ManicRuss says:

    What about his pants? Are they on show?

  60. 60
    The Lizzud Returns says:

    Or she could fight it out, win and get her costs off him.

  61. 61
    Saltpetre says:

    I say good luck to you Guido. You have annoyed me in the past with your removal of my restrained comments about Israel…..but an elected bully with real power should be dealt with when she rears her ugly head. I’m sure that pornography is just a convenient bandwagon to Perry to help push her up the political ladder. She needs to be brought down a rung or two. Good luck !

  62. 62
    Cilla Black says:

    I just have a hole in the space time continuum.

    Either that or I have common sense in bounds.

    Tarraa

  63. 63
    Morning playlist says:

    I think this dumbo woman need to learn how t’internet works before she opens her twitter again

  64. 64
    Matthew 5.25 says:

    You are wrong on this Guido.

    The bible is quite clear that you should try to settle out of court first.

    Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

  65. 65
    Paniagua v5 says:

    No, dig 15 smaller ones, just to be on the safe side.

  66. 66
    bit gay this says:

    he’s already made her look a complete moron. just think our libel culture is pathetic.

  67. 67
    The Betting Line says:

    Wayne: drifting 1000 / 1

    Gary: no interest 750 / 1

    Carla: Topical but no takers 2000 / 1

    James: late backers 5 / 1 ( Favourite )

    George: interest fading 100 / 1

    Iqbal: minority interest 5000 / 1

  68. 68

    Guido would have to have extraordinarily inept Counsel for that to arise and my bet is that he is much smarter than that.

  69. 69
    Confucious says:

    Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

    Well he bloody well used to before interfering fucking nanny politicians came along.

  70. 70
    Fingle Blunt says:

    Yeah, right. Septics never get Brits right. They have an inferiority complex where the UK is concerned and never understand British understatement.

  71. 71
    Lionel Putz, Attorney at Law says:

    But who, if anyone, has been defamed – the tweet only named @Gui*oFawkes?

    Would a ‘reasonable reader’ be able to come to the conclusion that the alleged defamatory statement referred to a person.

  72. 72
  73. 73
    Bread & Circuseseseses'es says:

    Can we all please get back to the script, and cheer and smile at the royal baby?

  74. 74
    Mr Grainger says:

    The Gormless woman should go in to school teaching

    The real worl appears a bit too much for her to cope with

  75. 75
    reasonable reader says:

    yes

  76. 76
    Bodgit, Leggit and Scarper says:

    that’s a bit of a waste of a 69 post ?

  77. 77
    Mad eyed Persian Mullah says:

    10p a mile, I think.

  78. 78

    What approving comments? Name one.

    The weakness is in your brain, not to mention the spelling of your moniker.

  79. 79
    Cherie Booth (Ms.) says:

    Did someone say the were looking for extraordinarily inept Counsel ?

  80. 80
    Paniagua v5 says:

    Better still – http://www.willitblend.com/

  81. 81
    Nicky Stads Adult Productions says:

    His council would have to actively undermine his case. IMHO she is yet another loud mouth wannabe whatever – Being an MP is just porn for fugly munters “look at me, look at me! Seem me take on Big Boy Guido and make him squeal!”

  82. 82
    Gordon Brown (where am I?) says:

    It’s Sue’s fault
    again
    bigoted woman
    hoots!

  83. 83
    Mike (England) says:

    good point, extradition it is then ;)

  84. 84
    Anonymous says:

    Isn’t Muhammad very popular these days?

  85. 85
    Sir David Eady says:

    She dug herself into a hole. Then kept digging. With each tweet looking more and more moronic. Then she threatened. Then she refused to have good grace.
    She obviously doesn’t understand the internet at all. Yet she is seeking to censor it. Does she practice brain surgery on her children too?
    This woman is dangerous to our freedoms and liberties yet her actions are based on being an ignorant and arrogant moron.

  86. 86
    Nicky Stads Adult Productions says:

    I’ve got a post that needs a 69!

  87. 87
    TomTom says:

    We have received no such undertaking, that means War

  88. 88
    marcyd says:

    Does it hell. This is the grown up world, son. Actions and stupid ones at that have consequences. A woman so thick and tech illiterate should not be legislating on these issues. If she needs to be taught a sharp lesson about the net, then so be it.

  89. 89
    Jimmy says:

    Is Blaney writing the letter or are you serious this time?

  90. 90
    Lord Hoohah says:

    Hooo Haaaa

  91. 91
    Alex says:

    Publishing a screenshot is not even remotely the same as hosting links.

    Do try and keep up.

  92. 92
    Nick Clegg says:

    Can we just make it a 68 and I’ll owe you one?

  93. 93
    M'Learned Envelope Stuffer says:

    But not the cost of stuffing the envelope

  94. 94
    marcyd says:

    Yeah of course. How could the most powerful country in the world not be insecure over us? I’ll have some of what you are having, it’s evidently good shit.

  95. 95
    Alex says:

    So standing up for yourself in the face of intimidatory tactics constitutes bullying in your eyes does it?

    Please, you’re just embarrassing yourself.

  96. 96
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    I wish Princess would settle out of Court. Whatever my boys and me offer her she just refuses. Jahbulon.

  97. 97
  98. 98
    Claire Rayner says:

    All relationships go through tricky patches. Have you tried sitting down together and apologising?

    Will you do that for me luvvies, will you?

  99. 99
    Sal E Bercow says:

    I can do lessons *sour face*

  100. 100
    Oh No No says:

    Or double negatives

  101. 101
    Baghdad market place says:

    Going down a bomb.

  102. 102
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    Agree. At least before you sue, find out whether she does a turn or not. Boaz.

  103. 103
    Owen Jones says:

    Mum?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

  104. 104
    Thomas Crapper says:

    Not so sure.

    Cast Iron is by any definition lightweight, he has as much gravitas as Eddy Izzard.

  105. 105
    Raving Loon says:

    I appreciate that you may want to sue for damages Guido but, for the sake of the nation, can you just get her to drop the policy instead?

  106. 106
    Silly Moocow says:

    You can give me one later, if you turn up in an untaxed Transit van offering to Tarmac me drive!

  107. 107
    The Playground says:

    Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight

  108. 108
    Casual Observer says:

    It is the right thing to do.

    Height of Government hypocrisy: On the one hand launch a crusade to ban porn whilst at the same time hosting it on their web sites.

    Would prefer if Government did not use tax payers money in this way – private citizens should be able to exercise their own judgement regarding internet content but should not fund p0rn through tax.

    As for the shooting the messenger issue…

    Do we have a Coalition, or just new-new-Labour ?

    What is UKIPs policy on Government funded p0rn web sites ?

  109. 109
    Daily Mail Royal Baby Coverage is Awesome ! says:

    P’rry should really consider her position…

  110. 110
    Roundell says:

    Perry is another “A” Lister who needs to be brought down

  111. 111
    The Cittie of Yorke says:

    Guido, you really should have had an option for:

    ‘I want to see counsel’s opinion befre i make my mind up’

  112. 112
    Anonymous says:

    marcyd says “Actions and stupid ones at that have consequences.”

    Newton said “Every action has an equal & opposite reaction”.

  113. 113
    Casual Observer says:

    Apparently he was involved in some interesting cover ups back at Carlton…

  114. 114
    Jimmy says:

    Should have had one for “make noises about suing but quietly drop the idea when everyone’s forgotten about it”

  115. 115
    Bodgit, Leggit and Scarper says:

    trouble is now the Septics have got space, medical, industrial and academic research facilities where they can find out about stuff whereas we have got service industries

  116. 116
    The mumsnet collective says:

    The mumsnet collective do not feel that UK Government should be hosting porn on Government websites at tax payer expense.

  117. 117
    Pdubya says:

    You’ve got that arse about face mate. She should be doing the settling which in all probability is what will happen.
    If, in future, Perry wants to shoot from the hip she should firstly identify the correct target she is shooting at and secondly, having made an error, take the far less expensive route of apologising for wounding an innocent victim. I suspect any legal opinion she opts for will give her the same answer.

  118. 118
    Vince says:

    Can’t remember!

  119. 119
    Carlos Danger says:

    Anyone know if she got Skype? ;-)

  120. 120
    Anonymous says:

    This morning Guido Fawkes handed Claire Perry MP a final note, stating that, unless he heard from her by 12 o’clock that she was prepared at once to withdraw her allegations, a state of war would exist between us. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and that consequently this blogger is at war with the said Lady.

  121. 121
    via H.M.P. Doncaste says:

    Try explaining that to a judge.

  122. 122
    Arse says:

    Why put bread on the table of parasitic lawyers by suing a misguided but otherwise bummable politician for accusing you of doing something nobody cares about in the slightest?

  123. 123
    They fear the hare says:

    The whole thing terrifies me. Its frightening that an electorate could be so stupid to vote for this woman. Equally frightening that her political opponents where considered worse. Its frightening that she feels qualified to hold her position, despite her ignorance. Its frightening that someone in authority thought she was a suitable candidate for the job.

  124. 124
    The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

    £100 Levi – on the nose.

  125. 125
    Bodgit, Leggit and Scarper says:

    if I could explain ? She said that Guido sponsored the hacking of her website. I, an averagely educated and reasonable person, understood that to mean that Guido gave assistance to the actual act of the hacking of her website.

  126. 126
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Two, maybe three distinct libels, there. What an idiot. Go for it, sir!

  127. 127
    Arse says:

    I don’t think you need any qualifications if your job is to get the Daily Mail on your side.

  128. 128
    Bring Back Conscription says:

    Will we all be home by Christmas?

  129. 129
    Anonymous says:

    Whether she loses or wins depends on who gets to pick the Judge.

  130. 130
    The Government of Bullies says:

    You have nothing to fear but fear itself. Unless you have something to hide.

  131. 131
    The EU is croques (de merde) monsieur says:

    You could get your lawyers to hack into her phone, computer, etc. It appears it’s only illegal and unacceptable for newspapers to do that.

  132. 132
    Judge Dreadful says:

    I have no problem with the concept. Send her down.

  133. 133
    Maqboul QC says:

    It will make an out of court settlement all the more likely and meaningful if she knows Guido is not bluffing. In mediaeval times the notice of Trial by Combat had the effect of bringing the parties to the table to agree a resolution. Guido’s threat of action should have a similar consequence. Furthermore I would envisage that the publicity generated will shine a light on the tories’ naive attempt to control the internet and the incompetent manner in which they aim so to do. Additional benefits should include increased international interest in Guido’s blog and Sunday column. As we in legal profession say, he’d be fucking daft not to.

  134. 134
    The Playground says:

    Na na na na na

  135. 135
    A Fat Git QC says:

    It will be £250,000 for a refresher

  136. 136
    The chips are down says:

    Oi Fishface – to plaice

  137. 137
    GCHQ says:

    We can make all those tweets disappear for a ‘consideration’.

  138. 138
    via H.M.P. Doncaster says:

    You say Cameron’s made god awfully bad decisions but what consequences has he faced as a result? Don’t make the mistake of assuming he’s going to judge himself by oik standards like ours. We might expect some integrity in the Prime Minister, he just guffaws in our faces because what the hell can we do about it anyway?

    And as for this suing Perry lark… meh. Meh. How on earth have we let things slip so badly, that people like her are even able to get elected? It’s our own fault in the end, for standing by as they stole our democracy and sold it off. MEH.

  139. 139
    via H.M.P. Doncaster says:

    That’s the modus operandi of Dave. Talk loudly about some new policy, then quietly drop it once everyone’s forgotten about Lynton Crosby.

  140. 140

    Absolutely the right decision. Politicians need to understand that they are not above the law and do not have the right to libel (and then threaten) journalists when they report news.

  141. 141
    Doomed says:

    She has made a number of serious and deeply unwise accusations, been given the opportunity to recant yet has chosen not to do so.

    That may of course change once she has the benefit of sound legal advice which sets out in dull but horrible detail just how deep into the ordure she has dug herself.

    We shall see….

  142. 142
    Point of Information 3 says:

    Guido is a reporter – this is a political blog reporting as per the byline.

    There is a difference between reporting fact, promoting sleaze, and hosting porn.

    There is also a problem when Government officials decide to publicly attack reporters in order

  143. 143
    Just asking says:

    Of course, the issue as to quantum is another matter entirely. What exactly is Guido’s hitherto unsullied reputation worth?

  144. 144
    Horace Harkness says:

    Our libel culture is pathetic, yes, but it’s the MPs who are to blame for that. Maybe if they have to suffer it they’ll deal with it.

  145. 145
    D'jango the voice of reason ffs! says:

    is Guido thinking of the publicity this will bring? I suggest that Ms Perry issue a grovelling apology and pay for Guido to have dinner at the Ritz with a bottle of Champagne… Honour satisfied?

  146. 146
    Why use lawyers says:

    Guido may have a legal right but surely he can take what he likes to give out.

  147. 147
    neitherdeadnoralive says:

    Whatever !!! Just sue the pompous, overbearing, uneducated bitch !!

  148. 148
    neitherdeadnoralive says:

    She thinks it’s an STD…………..

  149. 149
    Ippikin says:

    Hear, Hear.
    The good lady would be the first to commence proceedings against Guido were the boot upon the other foot.
    Let us hope that a sincere and public apology, coupled with a suitable donation to the anti-pyrotechnic lobby with prove sufficient for Mr. Fawkes to be charitable towards her.
    In that way m’learned friends will spared the arduous task of the impending proceedings, Mr. Fawkes can rest easier during his nocturnal activities and Claire Perry will have learned a valuable lesson.

  150. 150
    Ippikin says:

    Live by sword. . .

  151. 151
    Father Christmas K. Merley says:

    Ho Ho Ho

  152. 152
    Ippikin says:

    Disagree. If this was some pleb making mischief on a blog noted for mischief – fair enough, but it isn’t is it?
    This is supposed to be a responsible member of government.

  153. 153
    Ippikin says:

    That’s because you have behaved like an obnoxious turd Sir!

  154. 154
    Anonymous says:

    Sue the fucking cυnt.

    The thick bitch is a tory.

    Take her for all she’s got.

  155. 155
    Ippikin says:

    No just naff ‘Y’ fronts.

  156. 156
    Last Week's Spad says:

    Who?

  157. 157
    Another Engineer says:

    It doesn’t matter if Guido’s reputation is worth 50p.

    As long as it makes stupid politicians look stupid, it is worth doing.

  158. 158
    Ippikin says:

    Haven’t I just seen you in Eye?
    Just the transposition of Leggit to Runne.

  159. 159
    Ippikin says:

    Nope, sorry. Can’t get worked up on those images.

  160. 160
    Bodgit, Leggit and Scarper says:

    Isn’t James a bit of a liberal sounding name ? sorry James’s don’t know why.
    something strong and authoritative but at the same time humble and caring.
    What about Chuck ?

  161. 161
    Ippikin says:

    She hasn’t been to Poland has she?

  162. 162
    Anonymous says:

    I’m a Brummie. Trying to displace myself from the donkey town that is the so-called second city. I don’t think I’ll be waiting for HS2. ha ha

  163. 163
    Ippikin says:

    Coz I am one and I need to eat.

  164. 164
    Ippikin says:

    Besides, bumming was not on the agenda. My mother would disapprove.

  165. 165
    Chadacre says:

    That’s right. Am no supporter of CP but it’s clear that she means ‘promotes’.

    After all, the accusation that kicked off the twitterspat was that Guido had publicized the hacking, and with relish. CP may have mangled this line of attack, by seeming not to know what a link is etc. but it’s clear that ‘sponsors’ was intended to maintain it, not to make a new (and much more serious) accusation.

    The question is: does Guido also know that a court would probably find against him. If so, what is he up to?

  166. 166
    Ippikin says:

    Yes, yes, yes & yes. That is the whole point.

  167. 167
    Jim says:

    Sue her to depths of hell from whence she came.

  168. 168
    Anonymous says:

    No change there then.

  169. 169
    Jim says:

    She said ‘sponsored’ as in Guido was directly involved in getting her site hacked. That is untrue and therefore libelous.

  170. 170
    Bodgit, Leggit and Scarper says:

    I think when you say “publicized” you clearly meant to say “reported”

  171. 171
    meh says:

    surely the question is “who’s bullying whom?”?

  172. 172
    Psychedelic Hippo says:

    or even Chunky (as per Neddy Seagoon circa 1959 ish)

  173. 173
    golli says:

    You forget his wife is a member of the profession.

  174. 174
    Psychedelic Hippo says:

    Standard Trunk Dialling? Used for calling up elephants about 30 years ago.

  175. 175
    golli says:

    …hiding an inconsequential budgie?

  176. 176
    Anonymous says:

    Twit

  177. 177
    golli says:

    Bollox man she’s a naif numpty if she hasn’t yet learnt that Twitter is a graveyard for careless politicians and Speaker’s wives.

  178. 178
    golli says:

    +1

  179. 179
    Anonymous says:

    Unfortunately the political class in the UK is full of reactionaries and populists who will pounce on any subject matter to increase their profile and cement their grip on power, all the while the real issues are ignored. I’m glad this is happening, politicians like this need taking down a peg or three.

  180. 180
    SaltPetre says:

    Even left wing blogs are supporting you now Guido: http://boingboing.net/2013/07/24/technologically-illiterate-mp.html

  181. 181
    Pdubya says:

    The proven lack of ability shown by the women on the opposition front bench frighten me far more, including Jack.

  182. 182
    Anonymous says:

    So it’s not defamatory for you to claim she’s peddling porn, but it is for her to say you were hacking her site.

    Good old hypocrisy from Guido yet again.

  183. 183
    Won't Get Fooled Again says:

    Make it 87% in favour.
    Sue her and give the damages to one of the safer internet groups.
    Perhaps she could flog some furniture on eBay as well…..

  184. 184
    WelshRacer says:

    This is a point of principle. She made a public accusation which implicated Guido of which something he has not done. Had she done more research on the topic she appears to talk quite a lot about, she would have not made the claim she did.

    She needs to be made aware that her lack of knowledge on a certain subject is not doing her cause any good, nor will it advance either – parliament will make certain of that (if and when the Coalition submit a new bill or amendments to existing laws regarding Internet & Porn).

    I wish Mr Fawkes and his team all the good luck with this case.

  185. 185
    Arse says:

    I thought you were talking about Guido for a second there.

  186. 186
    Bluto says:

    She is an awful woman and the fact that she is supposed to be a Conservative MP fills me with disgust.

    “We will be strong in defence of freedom. The Government believes that the British state has become too authoritarian, and that over the past decade it has abused and eroded fundamental human freedoms and historic civil liberties. We need to restore the rights of individuals in the face of encroaching state power, in keeping with Britain’s tradition of freedom and fairness.”

    And yet the state is going to force its criteria of what constitutes acceptable and unacceptable internet viewing on every single household in the UK. Like China.

    “We will implement a full programme of measures to reverse the substantial erosion of civil liberties and roll back state intrusion.”

    And yet the state is pushing the Communications Data bill for mass surveillance.

    “We will introduce a new mechanism to prevent the proliferation of unnecessary new criminal offences.”

    And yet the state is planning to extend the criminalisation of sexual fantasies. About as close to creating thought crime as you can get.

    “We will establish a Commission to investigate the creation of a British Bill of Rights that incorporates and builds on all our obligations under the European Convention on Human Rights, ensures that these rights continue to be enshrined in British law, and protects and extends British liberties. We will seek to promote a better understanding of the true scope of these obligations and liberties.”

    And yet the liberties of freedom of expression and freedom of access are going to be removed or regulated by unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats.

  187. 187
    Social Meedja Queen says:

    Gweeedo Daahlink,

    You’re a reporter now!

    http://boingboing.net/2013/07/24/technologically-illiterate-mp.html

  188. 188
    Jason says:

    Above all else you must sue this idiot to stop her getting anywhere further in advising an already technically illiterate prime minister (lol anyone?) on a matter of which she clearly has even less understanding than he does. Sue and make as much of a song and dance out of it as you possibly can, on behalf of the nation.

  189. 189
    Living in 97.223% white Merseyside says:

    Oooh, do you like me ear rings?

  190. 190
    John says:

    Too late to vote, but please please start legal proceedings against this clueless bat.

  191. 191
    Cornish Pilchard says:

    Is she positioning herself as the New Nadine?

  192. 192
    Anonymous says:

    Don’t get it. Sorry.

  193. 193
    Loverat says:

    Absolutely amazed that you are going to sue. I thought the silly season of suing on Twitter over silly spats was over. When you really sit down and think about this, is this being pursued to vindicate your reputation?

    Of course not, but vindication is the point of suing for libel. Vexatious libel cases and abuse of this law has no place in a civilised and free society.
    This is the kind of nonsense libel claim I might have expected some grubby Tory politician to pursue (too many vexatious cases to mention here) not someone who relies on free speech.

    Extremely surprised and I hope on this one case the Libel Reform Campaign speak out against this. If this proceeds it will make things even more difficult for sites like this – not to mention damage your own reputation beyond repair. An massive own goal.

  194. 194
    Stolen innocence 2012 of United Wheeldom says:

    Reblogged this on stoleninnocence2012's Blog.

  195. 195
    SaltPetre says:

    See 180 above you

  196. 196
    Ctl Alt Del - close Perry.doc says:

    Agreed. Clearly Perry is so ignorant of IT matters it is embarrassing. Guido should pursue this because a) she is accusing him of being complicit / actually hacking her website based on the following evidence … a bloody screen shot and b) this will force her to admit her ignorance of IT and therefore totally undermine her campaign which is totally floored in its current guise. The Internet isn’t Gibraltar;it isn’t a confined space and is hugely challenging to monitor and control. This idea of “cleaning up the Internet” is all very valiant, but shockingly misguided….Perry might find it difficult without global support. She may think it involves virtual marigolds and a broom. Let’s have a whip round and get her a couple of hours with some experts from Royal Holloway or the Oxford Internet Institute because f knows who has been advising her. The use of language and approach just seems so god damn amateurish….Jesus she really is embarrassing.

  197. 197
    Jimmy says:

    Bizarre, she seems to think the Sun takes orders from her party rather than the other way around.

  198. 198
    Bluto says:

    The new Mary Whitehouse.

  199. 199
    Graham says:

    Foolish ignorant MPs who make libellous statements deserve all that comes their way. Should be easy to make her look a complete idiot. Hope it costs her a lot of money. She had the opportunity to apologise and withdraw.

  200. 200
    A N. Other says:

    That’s a lot of head.

  201. 201
    Mornington Crescent says:

    …and she’s ended up squarely positioning herself as the new Sally B.

  202. 202
    Frau Merkel says:

    James will please the SNP as the Tudors died out with Elizabeth 1. So Mary Queen of Scots was the real victor. I prefer another German George.

  203. 203
    Mornington Crescent says:

    “Mrs Perry is on holiday and unavailable for comment…” says her local rag. That didn’t stop her posting her defamatory statement in the first place, did it?

  204. 204
    Victor says:

    “History is written by the victors.”

  205. 205
    Anonymous says:

    he still isnt making executive decisions

  206. 206
    Victor says:

    Just so it’s not a Catholic name like Edward. The Constitution forbids it. Muhammad causes no constitutional problem.

  207. 207
    Anonymous says:

    She pulled the I will be speaking to your boss a couple of weeks ago on Mandrake at the Telegraph. I think he was asking about her marriage break up, if she was still living in her constituency, expenses etc when she spazzed out that time

  208. 208
    Victor says:

    Are you lobbying for Wales?

  209. 209
    Hannibal from Carthage says:

    The woman is implying that criminal offences has been committed under the Malicious Communications Act.

    No doubt she has already today reported the matter to the Police and given them her evidence.

  210. 210
    Victor says:

    Levi cause no Constitutional problem.

  211. 211
    Loopy lou says:

    If I was Prime Minister I would have been insisting today on a full explanation from her as to what the hell has been going on.

  212. 212
    Mark Oaten says:

    Bugger this for a lark, I’m feeling peckish.

    Anyone up for coiling out a Richard for me?

  213. 213
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    There is an MP from Devizes
    Who’s lack of IT nous surprises
    When she took on our Guido
    She got a torpedo
    And now she awaits the assizes.

  214. 214
    b-b-p says:

    Just Tweeted her “she is a little girl in a corrupt political world dont get above your station”

  215. 215
    Cornish Pilchard says:

    Doesn’t look like slapper material. They don’t do Cardy’s ….in my limited experience …… at least they don’t do Cardys and other clothes at the same time

  216. 216
    Cornish Pilchard says:

    “She has made a number of serious and deeply unwise accusations, been given the opportunity to recant yet has chosen not to do so.”

    ……or, as it known in the trade, the Bercow strategy ….how to double the damages and quadruple the legal bill in one easy lesson

  217. 217
    Cornish Pilchard says:

    You could of course notify her isp that she has been promulgating libels and watch if they close her down

  218. 218
    New Pope, Old Paedophilia says:

    If they suffer, they’ll simply extend parliamentary privilege to apply 24/7. Perry is in the vanguard of the sovietisation of the nation.

  219. 219
    Anonymous says:

    First timer on here. I am going to like visiting here from now on :D

  220. 220
    Rupert the inernez bear says:

    Clare Perry …..A MP promoted beyond ability for simply having a Hunt

  221. 221
    Ippikin says:

    Perhaps but accusations of hosting porn are a bit different.

  222. 222
    Ippikin says:

    Dunno, never been there. Better ask Mrs. G.

  223. 223
    Ippikin says:

    Think its an advertisement for Trex.

  224. 224
    Ippikin says:

    The third?

  225. 225
    Anonymous says:

    SO! What is a motormouth?

  226. 226
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Claire Perry is 49 and has an MBA from Harvard, yet pretends to not understand how the Internet works.

    I question that she can really be quite that ignorant.

  227. 227
    Another Engineer says:

    An MBA?

    MBAs are the people who think they can manage any project, regardless of what it is delivering, without knowing anything about the technicalities. Indeed, some think knowing anything about the technicalities is a disadvantage.

    She exhibits all the classic signs of expecting something to be delivered because she says so, rather than because the people who actually do the delivering say they can.

  228. 228
    Pornoperry says:

    Her problem is she doesn’t watch enough porn. I suggest she watch some furry porn if she doesn’t like nobs that’s pretend porn :P

  229. 229
    Claire Perry kissed a girl and liked it says:

    Always the same route with theses self righteous twats. Bar the demand, not the supply. I live for the day when servers and ISP addresses don’t have to belong to a physical address and are unconnected to a bank account or name. The authorities will shit themselves. It will happen….

  230. 230
    Claire Perry kissed a girl and liked it says:

    Gay marriage now this. Anyone want to talk about fixing the banks, the £ and creating jobs? Didn’t think so. Its all zero sum distraction game.

  231. 231
    Sharon Shoesmith says:

    I love it when blundering political idiots shoot off at the mouth.

    All very rewarding shame the taxpayer had to foot the bill.

    From my HTC @Laguna Nook, Seychelles

  232. 232
    Anonymous says:

    Tits AND GTFO!

  233. 233
    Legal Aid says:

    Taking legal advice from a Pole, it’s his plumber!

  234. 234
    bencorde says:

    About time some of these upstart MPs were made to grovel. Go for it Guido. It’s a nasty allegation and trust your integrity over any MP

  235. 235
    Claire Perry's Electors says:

    We are very upset about this. If we had wanted to see anything exciting we wouldn’t have come to live in Devizes.

  236. 236
  237. 237
    DaveHat says:

    No it’s not. I don’t share Guidos politics and his strange obsession with the Left but he usually gives as good as he gets and stands up for free comment. Hiding behind lawyers is a darn poor show and starts the slow slide into mediocrity. Man up and take the hit.

  238. 238
    Civil Servant says:

    I can’t see any down side to this action – you go, girl!

  239. 239

    This Perry is very much in favour of you suing the hell out of that Perry

  240. 240
    Observer says:

    MBAs are for people who like the idea of being an entrepreneur but who prefer the corporate safety net in reality.

  241. 241
    Yossarian says:

    As spelling does for you.

  242. 242
    coldwarkid says:

    Perry should get back to his’ little bo peep’ cross-dressing and Art

  243. 243
    Mikey Boy says:

    If you cannot back it up with Facts or Evidence then it’s nonsense and worse it could be damaging.

    You seem to miss the point that Guido, always has evidence or data or information or direct quotes to back up his posts. He doesn’t conjure stuff up just to have ammunition to throw at perceived enemies or make irrational unsubstantiated comments.

    There is a difference between informed debate, and a direct accusation of illegal practice by a Third under the 1990 Computer Mis-use Act on a very public forum.

    For my money, if you say something stupid, incorrect and defamatory publicly and for the record, you deserve whatever is coming to you.

  244. 244
    Wildeman says:

    To quote Oscar Wilde:
    “Why the fuck did I sue that idiot.”


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