July 14th, 2013

Labour Plan to Make Benefits a “Human Right”
Secret Recording Reveals Plans for Lib-Lab Deal

fabian-wolf-in-sheeps-clothingThis covert recording obtained by Guido – made at the Fabian Society’s recent £100-a-ticket gala – reveals that Labour are planning to enshrine welfare payments as a human right, with plans to extend the Human Rights Act to include ‘economic and social rights’. Essentially enshrining socialism in law. No wonder the symbol of the Fabian Society is a socialist wolf in sheep’s clothing…

The Sun reported the plan which Labour’s Shadow Minister for Scotland, Willie Bain, himself describes as a “scrounger’s charter”. In response Labour put out a statement claiming “The discussion at a Fabian Society event was about methods used abroad, not something the Labour Party is considering as a policy.”  If you listen to the actual recording you will realise that is complete spin:

After admitting it will be a lot easier for Labour to do a deal with Vince Cable he says a Lib-Lab coalition would make welfare benefits a “human right”:

willie-bain“Sadiq asked me to do this and Jon Cruddas is keen on this as well is to look at whether economic and social rights can be put into law. At the moment the human rights act just deals with civil political rights. It needs really careful handling because I think the politics of this would be the Tories would say it’s a scroungers charter, helping skivers….we might just talk about having a commission on it. It might need a commission after the election…that’s something again where there’d be a communality with the Libs.”

Lawyers will love this, welfare reform would be impossible because it would be a “human right”…


533 Comments

  1. 1
    Pollytwaddle says:

    Just NO!

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    • 13
      Faceless Bureaucrat says:

      When are we having that EU Referendum again?…

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      • 21
        Django says:

        Vote UKIP…. And let Labour in to so they can introduce this!

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        • 31
          C.O.Jones says:

          How long can this status quo continue? We have a coalition govt that are basically continuing the policies of new labour.

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          • LB says:

            So make it a human right that the right to property is a human right.

            ie. Taxation cannot exceed 20% of income, enshrined in law as a right.

            Then Labour’s got a problem.

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          • Labour have got feck all to do with the working class. I can’t stress how irrelevant Labour are to ordinary working people. No one I know in my humble northern town, and I mean no one, will be voting for the Miliband party in ’15.

            The Conservative leadership are too intimidated by the BBC and the Guardian to have the courage of their convictions. If Cameron had the balls to speak up for the people of this country instead of trying to appear ‘nice’ he’d have won the last election by a landslide.

            Which leaves a Farage-sized gap in the political playing field. The Euro election of 2014 is going to be a game-changer…

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          • NE Frontiersman says:

            If the Lib Dems have learned anything from coalition – which is open to doubt – surely it must be that they would have had far more influence over events by staying outside government, thus keeping a potential veto over all policy.
            This will be equally true if Labour have no overall majority.
            They’d have had to miss out on all the goodies, of course.

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          • Ed Miliband is Crap says:

            Ukip will win the elections in 2014, but won’t win a single seat in 2015. Everybody knows that.

            Voting Ukip in 2014 will send an important message. Voting Ukip in 2015 will be a pointless waste and an invitation to Ed “Twelvety” Balls to destroy this country.

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      • 115
        V1le Labour trashed my Country says:

        It appears to be a human right already as every scumbag sponger from across the world is already here signing on. I’m feeling tremendously enriched and loving my super diverse multicultural eu dominated corrupt UK cesspit and eagerly await another 10 million sponging scumbag immigrants.

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    • 16
      Expat Geordie says:

      Agreed. Who the hell is going to pay for all of this? That’s right, the genuine working man, the poor sod who has ended up paying for everything whenever Labour has been in power.

      Labour are like a cricket (or football) selector who can’t make their mind up. We can’t lose anything that we already have, so lets keep the current team. But there aren’t enough ethnics, so lets pick Samit Patel and Ravi Bopara. The team is hideously white, so let’s have Michael Carbery, especially since he is a bloody good batsman. We need more bowlers, so Chris Tremlett, Tim Bresnan, etc. Ultimately they “pick” 30 players and forget that they can only have eleven. So Labour want to spend 3 times more than they have actually got, but can’t decide how to make best use of what they have actually got. And because they can’t decide how to best spend the money that they have they piss it up against the wall so that no-one else can spend it and show how useless they are.

      If Labour were the England cricket selectors picking a team to face the Aussies they would probably pick a club side from Hackney or Tower Hamlets as it would be “fair” and forget that the purpose is to actually win.

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      • 23
        Expat Geordie says:

        Australia needing 79 to win with one wicket left, but Agar is already out. Looks like we didn’t pick a Tower Hamlets 11 (or 30) this time.

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      • 24
        Living in 97.3% white Merseyside says:

        No idea what you are talking about as I NEVER follow cricket!

        Boring, boring, boring.

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        • 77
          Anonymous says:

          Not the point my little cherub. :)

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          • broderick crawford says:

            precisely .

            the noble game of cricket is none other than the game of life within the borders of a playing field

            ( though whether that field is till bordered by men drinking warm beer and village spinsters cycling to evensong and John banging Edwina in the pavillion I know not )

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          • Lord Stansted says:

            Cricket, the fucking boat race, varsity match (or matches, whatever), wimbledon, ascot, grand whatever, fa whatever and something another league whatever are all boring, boring, boring, boring ………………

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          • Something Wicket This Way Comes says:

            The game of Cricket is like marriage– sure, you’ve had a good innings with the old bat, but sooner or later, you know you’ve got to trade in for a newer model.

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          • Old Blind Pugh says:

            Could be she would want a part exchange works both ways old cock

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          • Saxon Sid says:

            “Not the point my little cherub”

            The point is lost on anyone who doesn’t give a toss about cricket, that’s the fucking point you nonce.

            Why bother with a fucking metaphor anyway – if you can’t say it straight, it ain’t worth saying.

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          • Maqboul says:

            Saxon Sid you need to whip off the bails and walk back to the pavilion.

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      • 82
        Point of Information 2 says:

        There are a few schmucks left in the UK who think they are producing and contributing to a traditional economy, but the truth is the economy of the UK is supported in large part by uncontrolled borrowing on the international markets and QE (money printing / accounting fraud).

        Until the economy is fixed properly – which will require full separation from the EU and a proper recession (correction in housing market in particular) / cleaning out of the trash who are distorting things at present, then the current zombie status quo will continue to lurch on.

        NB: The zombie becomes more rotten as time passes.

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        • 91
          Village Idiot says:

          England win 1st Test!!!

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        • 97
          broderick crawford says:

          Yes .

          i e cleaning out the Augean stables , making a Faustian pact with Lucifer and promising the country nothing less than a Chutchilliana five years of blood sweat and tears out of the clutches of the Brussels / Sttrasbourg Lubjanka before we get on our feet again and can look forward to a series of hail fellow met glad confident mornings .

          Where s the politician with the brass neck and moral fibre to guide us through that particular slough of despond to the ultimate sunlit uplands ??

          step forward myself !!

          ( i think i may have exhausted all the politically platitudinous mixed metaphors in the dictionary so i ll close )

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      • 116
        Anonymous says:

        But don’t forget we’d also need some females, gays, lesbian and transgender players for the cricket team!

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    • 150
      Dee Lusional says:

      You can reach for the stars by standing on the shoulders of giants – or you can scramble over the tops of poor, destitute, weak and powerless.

      Which are you?

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    • 257
      fitz fitz says:

      A few choice new ghetto names : Jicyra , Chade, Cha’iel , Javona …

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  2. 2
    Viv says:

    I was fearful of 2015 already – now I’m terrified!

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    • 28
      Old Blind Pugh says:

      Well, well, well it came from the Sun, who would have guessed it, Geefdo just a branch of News Corp without the direct association, the next thing we will get on here is soft porn every 3rd article per day. How’s live in the new office in the Little Shard?

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      • 89
        Alex says:

        Typical – no effort to debate the subject of the article, with the favoured preference of stupid and dishonest people the world over, i.e. attack the messenger.

        Muppet.

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        • 98
          broderick crawford says:

          DAGAA DAGAA DAGAA !!!

          Beware the Pun from the Sun !

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        • 260
          Old Blind Pugh says:

          Who’s shooting the messenger Gonzo, all I am suggesting that Geedo is just an off shoot of News Corp, but held at arms length.

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          • lowresolutionfox says:

            And the guardian is not a left wing newspaper spouting left wing ideas?

            Are people only allowed to have an opinion that agrees with you? That happens to involve the prioritisation of useless hordes of uneducated losers to the detriment of the working class?

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    • 472
      Moonrat says:

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  3. 3
    M102 says:

    Labour cuuuuuuunts!!!!!!!!

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    • 34
      Old Blind Pugh says:

      Dave’s mob of disaffected cabinet members is rapidly heading that way, do they really want to get into power in 2015?

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    • 100
      broderick crawford says:

      No no no my dear friend you are being far too direct thus your sarcasm is diluted to infinity .

      You might I suggest refer to labour as those fellows with the
      same double barrelled surname as the Minister for health i e
      a certain Mr C. U. Next – Tuesday.

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    • 390
      Moonrat says:

      Lucking Cabour funts.

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  4. 4
    Anon says:

    A little part of my will to live just died – what planet are these people on? This is wrong on so many freakin’ levels.

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  5. 5
    C.O.Jones says:

    Lets have some Victims of Crime rights!

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    • 37
      Old Blind Pugh says:

      Victims of drunk, drugged up and speeding motorists (I don’t mean those doing 35mph in a 30mph area)

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    • 105
      broderick crawford says:

      Mad Frankie’s Blazer says :::

      Naahh tell yah wot … let ‘ s just have … VICTIMS !!!

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  6. 6
    Fabians are evil says:

    Not content with their record of destruction over thirteen years, Labour are, as they always do, plotting the final financial destruction of this country from within.

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    • 33
      Living in 97.3% white Merseyside says:

      I quite liked it when that nice Mr Blair was in charge.

      Ah, the Boom Years!

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      • 40
        Old Blind Pugh says:

        Not so sure there, it wasn’t long before his true colours came through.

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      • 52
        Expat Geordie says:

        Boom and Bang more like.

        You can always have a boom and fight lots of little wars when you are spending other peoples money.

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      • 121
        Jethro says:

        33 I quite liked it when that nice Mr Brush was in charge.

        Ah, the Boom-boom Years!

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    • 57
      Gideots Housing Bubble says:

      I’m amazed people still believe in the Labour/Tory dog and pony show any more. THEY ARE THE SAME!

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    • 108
      broderick crawford says:

      yes but there again …. and i am certainly no labourite in any way ….so is Bernanke in the States , Draghi in Euroland/Frankfurt and Huroda in Tokyo .

      evertbody s printing fiat currency to high heaven to stave off the evil day of a western world credit bubble explosion aided and abetted by that wonderful concept of fractional reserve bankiing which means you can lend five to ten times the deposits you hold as a credit house /bank .

      so who ll arrive at armageddon first .. Difficult one …

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  7. 7
    Bazinga! says:

    So millions of immigrants will also get those “uman rites”

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    • 42
      Old Blind Pugh says:

      I agree, all those dodgy oligarchs, all those we must have foreigners, all the shady guys that have seem to come to this country

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    • 109
      broderick crawford says:

      spell it properly Squire .

      It’s ” EEEEWWWWWWMANNN ” rights…. innit??

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  8. 8
    Anonymous says:

    Oh dear!

    Perhaps time for you to flee to a country more to your liking, Greedo.

    Zimbabwe would suit you.

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    • 11
      Bazinga! says:

      Anon: Are you a public sector piece of shit by chance?

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    • 45
      Old Blind Pugh says:

      Depends which Geedo you mean, the elder or the younger, the older Geedo probably has 3 passports UK, Irish and maybe Indian the younger will have to apply for a Scottish passport, as well as his UK passport

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      • 49
        LB says:

        Identity cards are good for you, so lots of ID must be better.

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        • 66
          Old Blind Pugh says:

          I bet those identity cards would have in small print “The holder of this card does not prove that they are the person registered on this card” opening a bank account where you are already a customer you have to prove who you are.

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          • broderick crawford says:

            yes but does anyone really really know who they are .

            now the majority of us have been scammed , virused , hacked and identity thieved .

            Am i really Broderick Crawford just because it says so on my passport , driving licence , NHS card etc ???

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          • A Stark Reminder says:

            “Am I really Broderick Crawford…[?]”

            I sure the fuck hope you’re THIS Broderick Crawford– the one who realised he was being used and decided to lash out against the ones doing the using. Hopefully, you’re not the one who became so embittered by losing the governor’s race that you became cynical, and when you succeeded four years later, you spent all your time paying off all the old scores:

            Ten-Four!

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          • Anonymous says:

            “does anyone really really know who they are .”
            We all have 3 choices :-
            1/ Who we think we are.
            2/ Who others think we are.
            3/ Who we really are.

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  9. 9
    Bazinga! says:

    Why doesn’t Liebore just go the whole way and make voting a human right open to EVERYONE regardless of age or immigration status? Then they can’t lose an election ever again.

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  10. 10
    Matrix Chambers partner says:

    But I’m already rich beyond the dreams of avarice!

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  11. 12
    disenfranchised says:

    Any right minded person with Conservative leanings must now seriously weigh up the choice between UKIP and the Tories.
    With LibDem and Labour already doing backstreet deals perhaps the sooner UKIP and the Tories complete the same to target marginal or other LibDem / Labour seats and strengthen their own marginals with just the one candidate the better.
    Otherwise after 2015 with Labour leading a LibDem / Labour / Unite coalition in power you can kiss your country goodbye forever.

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  12. 18
    LB says:

    And when the money runs out, that makes MPs guilty of abusing human rights.

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    • 20
      Expat Geordie says:

      Somehow I bet that they never thought about that.

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      • 25
        Bluebottle says:

        Money never runs out silly.

        You just keep printing it and printing it.

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        • 50
          LB says:

          Doesn’t work when the debts are inflation linked.

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          • broderick crawford says:

            what … you mean there will actually come a time when an external creditor counterparty ( e g china or qatar or the sultanate of brunei ) will actually have the temerity to turn up at threadneedle street and DARE to ask Her Brittanic Majessty’s Govt. for PHYSICAL payment of its overdue debts ??

            Any ” stiif notes” still left at the F C O and do we still have the odd gunship in Portsmouth we could de- mothball and send up the upstart country ‘ s main creek ?

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    • 26
      C.O.Jones says:

      Since the advent of QE that scenario will never happen. We need to consult with Mugabe on how to print billion pound notes.

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      • 39
        P-a-u-l Smugman, Nobel Laureate Keynesian Economist says:

        We just mint a trillion-dollar coin, declare it legal tender, and the debts are all paid off, and we start from scratch.
        I’m so brilliant, it’s no wonder I won the Nobel Prize for Economics. I’d rather it had been the Peace Prize, but there you are.
        I’m still working on the aliens-from-Mars-scenario.

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        • 198
          US Dept of Treasury Dept. says:

          We might not recognise a trillion dollar coin minted by the British government, but thanks for the idea

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  13. 22
    Hoots! It's Clown says:

    It’s genius. My legacy will live on for generations.

    *fnaarp, splut!* Nursie, I’ve plopped my troosers!

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  14. 27
    Living in 97.3% white Merseyside says:

    So what? My benefits are as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar anyway.

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    • 176
      disenfranchised says:

      And will probably stay like the Rock stable and fixed.
      But 2020 with Labour in charge as you go to the cigarette machine [ if such a vice is still allowed in Labour's nanny state UK] you will probably be requested to put at least a 50 pound note into the slot to obtain the goods.
      Of course by then you will have been reluctantly required to change your moniker to ‘Living in 60% beige Merseystan ;)

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    • 502
      The Bleedin Oblivious says:

      97.3% bleedin white, eh? Not bleedin possible unless you count the bleedin Irish as white. The Tims will live there but the bleedin nignogs won’t go near the bleedin place.

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  15. 30
    John Galt says:

    You all know what to do.
    It’s the counter-strategy to Cloward-Piven.
    Designed to accomplish the same thing, only faster, and on OUR terms.
    The mind, on sit-down strike.

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  16. 35
    Happiness is knowing you are Welsh says:

    That Mr Cable or Mr Greenback or whatever he is called.

    Well he may be a good ballroom dancer and will always get an “A” for A level Economics but he does not always call things right.

    We have all paid the parking tickets that prove it!

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  17. 38
    Lady Cynthia Meatyflapps says:

    Scrounger’s Charter indeed-but then, they constitute Labour’s core vote. How about a Working People Who Are Forced To Subsidise Scroungers Charter?

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  18. 41
    Ben Fitscrounger says:

    Hehehe…
    Fuck da posh nobs universal benefit it’ll be me hooooman rights to sit on my arse.

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    • 84
      Point of Information 2 says:

      You have the right to sit on your arse.

      You should not have the right to force others to pay for that choice.

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      • 504
        The Bleedin Oblivious says:

        You don’t bleedin get it, do you. Bleedin Labour want all these bleedin scroungers to sit on their bleedin arses so they can all get jobs as bleedin government arse inspectors.

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    • 131
      broderick crawford says:

      Surely sir your full name should be listed in the Members Interests Register as

      Ben E. Fitscrounger .

      as in the legend soul singer Ben E King .

      Although of course he plied a singing career and thus EARNED his money .

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  19. 43
    Hoooooman Rights! says:

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  20. 44
    Tiddles says:

    it’s my right to consume gourmet cat food 2x a day, Oh and a saucer of yak milk if you please.

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    • 137
      broderick crawford says:

      i m glad you did not say it was your HUMAN right to do so .

      Because you are not human . With a name like Tiddles you are of course
      … a cat .

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  21. 46

    We have the right to be Human, thats enough, innit?

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    • 81
      *Inserts a, plainly-packaged, burnham into every orifice and lights them with a pre-war Zippo* says:

      Didn’t you use to write boring novels on The Daily Telegraph’s comment section under the, equally, unimaginative moniker of “keredybretsae”, dear?

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  22. 48
    Scottish Chav says:

    wonder if (once they bankrupt the country again) labour will start borrowing from wonga

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  23. 53
    gordon is a moron says:

    just watched brillo . that woman eagle is a complete dullard.

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    • 142
      broderick crawford says:

      Does Brillo possess any cranial hair at all ? I assume he wears a wig but
      his ( facial !!) cheeks and upper lip are as smooth as a baby’s bottom .

      Does he ever need to shave — or has he lost capillary growth down below as well as up top??

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      • 148
        Mrs Mills says:

        His crotch looks like a butternut squash.

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      • 182
        hair apparent says:

        Brillo’s luxurious locks survive on Grecian 15000.
        Always the highlight of my day trying to guess what colour it will be.
        Unfortunately now without hair aplenty it’s his scalp that reflects the colour from the BBC arclights.

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  24. 54
    Betty Beeboid says:

    Nothing about human responsibility then?

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  25. 55
    Soacialism is Total Bollux says:

    Nobody need ever do any work again! LabLib paradise.

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  26. 56
    The Anti-Ruprecht says:

    Ruprecht’s paid mouthpiece doing the ‘his master’s voice’ thing, ooooh how scawy! People who haven’t inherited wealth like Ruprecht, how dare they! Who do they think they are?

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  27. 59
    Bazinga! says:

    BBC News ticker

    “Labour urge implementation of Francis report”

    BBC spinning the story for Labour once again.

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    • 96
      Be afraid be very afraid says:

      Sky news

      Mr Burnham told Sky News’ Murnaghan show there should be “more focus on the government and the Conservative Party and where they get their money from, and whether they are practising the highest standards”.

      So ignore the unions lets get the Tories

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    • 163
      Viewer says:

      That was Pretty Boy Burnham’s main point today – and he is going to raise it definitely in the HoC this week. So there!

      Diversionary tactics away from his NHS cockups.

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      • 274
        Betty Beeboid says:

        Rubbish. They can spin/blame it onto the last 3 years of coalition so expect the BBC to ramp it up big time. Health ministers and history only starts 2010 remember.

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  28. 60
    Fed Up says:

    If they put welfare into the Human Rights Act it would mean that our taxes would pay for even more immigrants to draw benefits and in some cases more than those that work. We already pay for the rest of the World to use our tax paid Health system for free and we are educating half the World for free whilst at the same time giving money to another good percentage of the World. Let us face it none of the Political Parties are on our side (that is why they are spying on us) and not worth the latest salary increase that they did not earn. They are a bunch of misfits causing harm to our Country and are guilty of Treason, they will be tried for this crime one day make no mistake, sooner the better.

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    • 64
      Bazinga! says:

      To be honest as many immigrants can use the NHS as they like, it just means more of them will die at the hands of the NHS.

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    • 165
      Viewer says:

      Why are you suggesting that more money is wasted on unnecessary trials?

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  29. 61
    b-b-p says:

    BROKEN BRITISH POLITICS – WELFARE & POOR-REPLACED BY SURVIVAL & SLAVERY
    Successive Governments have tried to teach the Nation how to become greedy scrounging shierkers so we are on the same par as them .None of them has had any enthusiasm for tackling Major Failings within our System .NHS,Employment and Housing .Cameron’s” more money spent on Hospitals” is a statement from a cross between a Sloth and an Ostrich with its head in the sand after it has tried to blame the Public for its inadequate efforts .13,000 Deaths have come to light concerning 14 Hospitals ,why because there is 17% fewer Doctors,5% fewer Nurses and 20% fewer cleaners .
    Employment ,they can work for free, create proper work schemes,instead of just pelting our money at failed private agencies .Housing ,why build more when we can Force a Bedroom Tax on them and let them do our job for us .Gag the Media ,Gag the surfs and we’ll get away with it,just tell more lies.

    http://brokenbritishpolitics.simplesite.com

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  30. 62
    Bazinga! says:

    Oh dear, bloke on BBC news has just pointed the finger at Gordon Brown now. The BBC will not be impressed.

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    • 103
      Gordon McFuckepwit Broon says:

      I saved the world you know !!! I did I saved the world
      Nurse don’t put me back in the restraints plleeeeeeasssssseeee I saved he world I did I did I saved the world

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  31. 63
    Anonymous says:

    More ‘work’ for lawyers.

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  32. 65
    The Anti-Ruprecht says:

    What this country needs is a proper caste system with those untouchables put in their place!

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  33. 68
    Speaking to his wine merchant, Owen Jones says:

    With forty million people entirely dependent on food banks for their survival, of course benefits should be a human right.

    In fact I will not be happy until everyone is on benefits. Then we will all have plenty to eat.

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    • 72
      Bazinga! says:

      Good idea, why doesn’t the government just employ everyone on 50K a year? Poverty problem solved overnight.

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  34. 69
    Jimmy says:

    “The Sun reported the plan”

    Well that’s good enough for me.

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    • 128
      Labour screwed the country long enforce 2008 says:

      You really are a twat
      Look at the table

      We all know Labour twats followed the Tory spending plans for 3 years before Brown and Blair let rip in 2000 / 2001 From that point Labour fucked the economy and we were in dire trouble long before 2008.

      Why don’t the BBC tell the fucking truth arghhhhhhh!

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  35. 70
    Bazinga! says:

    Bummer Burham on the BBC right now getting a massive blow job off gay lefty male beeboid interviewing him.

    Sickening.

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    • 73
      Be afraid be very afraid says:

      This is why the Tories can never win. Burnham should be hauled over the coals but he won’t be. Nope all the problems stated in 2010

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    • 444
      Shields Up! says:

      So Burnham is busy deflecting attention away from himself by accusing the Tories of making political capital out of the issue, with the BBC obediently reporting his every word.

      I’m sure that makes the families and friends of the thousands who died needlessly feel a lot better.

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  36. 71
    Be afraid be very afraid says:

    Thats my money that I work hard for. For all the joking on here I am now truly truly fearing the election of Labour. I am now becoming very scared.

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    • 78
      Anonymous says:

      But don`t be bullied or scared out of voting UKIP. The other 3 are basically the same, so don`t think the escape is voting Conservative.

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      • 104
        Anonymous says:

        Human rights should be based on what makes life liveable. Decent homes. Good education. Good health provision.
        We should have a basic financial limit as to what is a liveable income for a household. When households fall below that level, then that is when welfare should kick in.
        I would suggest the limit as what ever is average household income at that time. So if the average household income is £21500, then any household falling below that figure would receive welfare to make up the gap.
        As for UKIP. they oppose human rights and workers rights and maternity rights. All said by farage. UKIP are different. They are so far right they make the Tories look lika angels.

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        • 155
          Jethro says:

          103 Anon. Slight arithmetical problem here: let’s take your £21,500 figure, and assume you’re right that that is ‘the average household income’. Grant ‘welfare’ to those who fall ‘below that figure’ to ‘make up the gap’, and where does ‘average household income’ go? I’ll make it easy: will ‘average household income’ go down, or go up?
          I think I know in which direction the ‘average’ will move, but, surely, in whatsoever direction the ‘average’ moves, your proposal will move it both further and faster.
          Let’s assume that the ‘average’ is moved upwards by your proposal: this will need money (‘to make up the gap’). Fairly obviously, that money cannot come from those who ‘fall below that figure’, as that would keep them in the same position (‘Here’s £1,500 to bring your household income up to the average: unfortunately, this will cost you £1,500, in order to fund the supplement.’) In practice, of course, the £1,500 ‘re-distributed’ would incur administrative costs – 5%? – 10%??
          So, ‘making up the gap’ will be a costly exercise (£1,500 + admin.). Who’s going to pay for that? Plainly, not those already below the £21,500 level, as we’ve already seen. So, presumably, the money needed ‘to make up the gap’ will have to come from those above the ‘average household income’. Fine, ‘the rich help the poor in this life…’, and someone whose household income is far above that £21,500, could – perhaps should – be encouraged to help those with far less: besides, someone whose ‘household income’ is, say, £215,500 will hardly be impoverished by handing over £1,500 – he probably pays his Accountant more than this! But, of course, the Admin. costs of dealing with this transfer of funds will be considerable.
          But what about those whose ‘household income’ is only a trifle above that £21,500: are they to be brought down to below that figure, to help pay for those initially below it? Does it really make sense to make a few rich people a bit poorer, and several comfortably-off people uncomfortable, in order vainly to attempt to rig the Mathematics? After all, a mean, or average, is based on finding the mid-point between the extremes, and ‘doctoring’ the figures by increasing one, will merely move that average/mean in the same direction.
          But, perhaps, there really is a ‘money-tree’, and it’s just that many of us are so blinded that we cannot see it.

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          • 24 Hours to cover up the failings in the NHS says:

            ‘poverty’ will always be a moveable feast and will always be with us since its based on averages.

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          Man from the street says:

          I have a feeling most things are on the far right of your political compass because your are on the extreme left.

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        Labour screwed the country long enforce 2008 says:

        Vote UKIP will only split the vote on the right. Yes we would all ove to do it but if you do then be prepared for milligram balls and cable.

        If they ever get back into power then they will be in for ever. The system will be changed so that it becomes impossible to get anything but a left wing socialist government…how?

        Make everyone’s benefit a human right hence securing those votes under fear that anyone else will remove this odious idea.

        Vote Tory and only Tory. In 2015 its your last chance to save the country from the left and the clutches of Labour

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          Viewer says:

          There is of course always the option of a violent revolution against these people. Those Belfastians are really only just warming up at the moment, as are the Greeks, Italians, Spanish and Egyptians. Better get your beans and tin hats in while you still can.

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          • coup soleil says:

            The recent change over / coup in Egypt reminded me to revisit the Wiki section concerning the same happening many many moons ago in Fiji. There, the local indigenous population of born and bred Fijians realised they were being ruled by the influx of Indians and Indo-Fijians introduce earlier by the British government despite the guests being a minority.
            Eventually the army, one of the last bastions for indigenous Fijians instigated a coup to reverse the trend. Coups have then been occurring back and forth to try to establish a compromise but the net result would appear that the Indian / Indo Fijian percentage of their population is reducing.
            No, I do not wish the same to happen to the UK but with politicians having more interest in foreign affairs and more support for immigrants than its own indigenous population, stranger things could happen.
            With UK police standing back from the recent City rioting [predominantly being done by a 'guest' group of locals running riot] I wonder how they would react should the last straw that breaks the camel’s back situation be instigated by an indeginous population revolution?
            Please, please, if or when you do decide to revolt put Vaz and Abbott on the first boat out .

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          Man from the street says:

          What the gay marriage, windmill, mass immigration Tories?

          When the Conservative party become conservative again give me a call, until then its UKIP for me and most of my friends and family.

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    Bazinga! says:

    Bum boy Burnham was quick to claim Labour improved the NHS, seems to be unwilling to accept responsibility for it going wrong.

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      When is Burnham going to apologise and resign says:

      Well they did reduce the numbers using it making more services available to the others. Slight downside to that was they killed a lot of people to achieve it.

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    Ruprecht says:

    Don’t people know how hard I worked in the womb to be born into wealth and power? These lazy scroungers sleeping their gestation away thinking their in some warm cozy waterbed, taking it easy whilst I, and others like me worked our arses off in the womb, to be born into money. We understood that it starts at gestation, not at birth and we got ahead by our efforts in the womb!

    I also need to make it clear that I am completely race-blind when it comes to being born into wealth and power, I don’t care what race or colour you are, if you were born into the elite, then you’re one of us!

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    Anonymous says:

    Cameron would (secretly) love this.

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    Keep calm, vote UKIP says:

    This plan would not work in practice.

    It was tried in the old Communist bloc, and didn’t work out there.

    If such b/s was brought in under the human rights trojan, then what would happen next is that rights would be made contingent upon party membership.

    In the old Communist bloc, if you lost your party membership you would lose access to all state benefits / access to employment.

    If ‘benefits’ became a human right then when the money ran out to pay for them the government have no other option than to withdraw human rights from people in order to reduce their cost. Anybody who expressed dissent as the system began to fail would similarly find themselves excluded.

    The path being discussed should not happen, however is an exceptionally dangerous one to contemplate – Irrespective of how reasonable the argument in support of it is put now.

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      Tay King-dePisse says:

      “To each according to need, from each according to ability.”

      In a real Socialist society, and not a mixed-economy society in process of being dismantled, believe me, it is never the worker who gets to determine need and ability.

      Common sense tells you mostly everyone’s going to try to get the most they can for as little as they can expend in obtaining it. And no moral suasion is going to change that. Yeah, sure, New Soviet Man– how did that one work out?

      At least the capitalist boss was being honest about it: “I’ll hire you for as cheaply as you’re willing to work, and squeeze as much work out of you as I can.” He was trying to get the most he could for as little as he could expend, and no homilies on sacrifice for the greater good. At least with the old Robber Baron, you knew where you stood: Hobson’s Choice, of work for Lord Moneybags or not at all, and need to come up with some other means of sustenance if you quit your employment. You might have to resort to petty crime, and you might end up in the workhouse.

      In a socialist country, that would become Hobbes’s Choice– a life solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short. There is no other Lord Moneybags to hire you, and you won’t be allowed to emigrate. At best, you’d be sectioned and kept in the laughing academy, as your actions in opposing the State would clearly indicate insanity. At worst, you would be considered a traitor of sorts and would end up serving a slave labour sentence for subversion.

      End of rant.

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        I wonder what a certain Joo monomaniac would make of the lines: Secondly, by the Son of Man, His own Son, our blessed Saviour Jesus Christ, that came to reduce the Jеws and induce all nations into the kingdom of his Father; not as of himself, but as sent from his Father. Leviathan Chapter XVI

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          Tay King-dePisse says:

          When he’s not engaged in personal vituperation against other posters, BW can actually make a point or two, especially against the legal/judicial system (the latter word of which I’m sure he would lampoon with an alternate spelling). If his point is that the tribe of Judah has influence beyond its numbers, this has never been a secret. It is the attribution of ulterior motive to their being in such positions as they are, insinuations of their having reached those positions uncompetitively (as neutral a word as I can right this moment come up with), and allegations of their serving some purpose which is at odds with the good of the greater society, that I find disconcerting, if his point is that it is they and they alone who are the “conspiracy” to be forewarned and forearmed against. One could, with roughly equal justice, say the same about the old boys of certain schools (*ahem*Eton*ahem*).

          Incidentally, Cat, there are those who claim it is as unreasonable/irrational to believe that every occurrence is completely random and can never be the result of concerted effort on the part of more than one person to bring it about, as it is to believe that everything is interconnected in some way cabalistically. For those in the peanut gallery, that means, sometimes shit happens, and some other times shit happens on purpose, and wisdom is being able to know the difference, and to be able to distinguish act from omission, malice from negligence, and cart from horse in terms of which preceded what in the hierarchy. It may take a brighter mind than I have, or anyone else has, to get it right every single time.

          There has always been the joke that there is all one big diabolical conspiracy to convince us (as the Devil attempts to do in his own cause), that conspiracies do not exist. This is a misnomer, as there are as many conspiracies to convince us that conspiracies don’t exist, as there are conspiracies that DO exist, you’d have to figure.

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          • A tyre factory on fire has a considerable drawback. The fire-fighters have difficulty in seeing where the problem is due to the rancid black smoke spewing out.

            Your words: When he’s not engaged in personal vituperation against other posters… says it all in terms of damaging BW’s message, which you have seen and, I fear, I have not, at least in the same way.

            I have posted enough times here that most sentient beings will know that I claim that all sectors of public service have become grossly contaminated. So in a way, BW is being grossly selective in my view. Sort that out and there is still a Herculean task left.

            If he cannot engage with that idea then he has a rude awakening, however successful he may be in vanquishing his foes.

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          • Tay King-dePisse says:

            Ya go with wot ya know, Cat. My suspicion is that BW was some sort of idealistic activist for some ostensibly worthwhile cause, at one time, and one who felt that raising the issue was not enough, and got into the game of attempting to enforce whatever the law was on that issue, only to discover, to his horror, what a cynical game it all was, the only winners of which were the lawyers. Sort of like the elderly commodity broker brothers in Trading Places: “Some people make money in commodities, some lose money– we don’t care who does what, we’re getting our commission either way.” Same with the wigs and their fees. And there may have been a, shall we say, “demographic bulge” in the public-interest-law sector of the legal profession. (You are welcome to confirm this hunch of mine or not, BW.)

            One is put in mind of the old joke about the Wild West, that so long as there was only one lawyer in a town, he was the poorest man in that town, but as soon as another moved in, the two of them became the richest men in town.

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          Your posts are becoming an ancient thing.

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          Referee says:

          Guys, a little Respect wouldn’t go amiss.
          It’s what separates us from the monkeys (that, and the Opposable Thumb).

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        • 503

          There is absolutely no need for me to take lessons from you BW, especially with your arrogant and ignorant method of assault which presupposes that anyone five minutes older than you must be brainless.

          What happens when you get there? Will your frontal cortex close down as you go gaga? Will you recognise that as considered settled as you voluntarily go into purdah? I very much doubt it.

          You are a fucking pompous arsehole to dismiss any and all wisdom of the ages whilst simultaneously falling prey to your own lifetimes perceptions, exactly as you accuse others of doing. Coupled with your use of a standard set of formulated smears for which you should show some contrition but dismally fail to proffer. It is called hypocrisy but, in your case, it has been elevated into an art form which has then been mounted onto Daliesque stilts for maximum chaos, unfortunately without the master’s intelligence and deft hand to back it up.

          The only thing I can hold out as the merest glimmer of hope for you is that you lack any subtlety or humour in your rancid line of attack and flagrantly perpetrate this Potemkin sham for all to see. I do not even have to bother to take your legs off most of the time. You are perfectly capable of doing that all for yourself.

          I can only presume that you are so petrified of my lowly writings that you have to employ this obsessive approach to fight your imaginary dragons.

          Sorry, Referee, but to use this duplicitous imbecile’s own words to take his argument apart is, in this instance, not only a pleasure, it is a moral imperative.

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        Are you blind or summat? says:

        What the Tory press pack fail to mention (They need an opposite to exist too you know) is that:-

        What fucking Tory press pack

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    Anonymous says:

    Right up the Establishment`s street.

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    Point of Information 2 says:

    Will the Unions be supportive of this ? Or is Labour going out on a limb here ?

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      peas in a pod says:

      Is there really any difference between Labour’s mentality and that of the Unions????

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  43. 87
    EU Funded Pro-EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP

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    dai laughing says:

    the withdrawal of labour part are merely offering to those unlikely ever to make much if any economic contribution, what they have agreed with conlib we should pay to mps

    therefore if the six-figure number of mrs gamps who are employed by but don’t work in the nhs have to be dumped the pbt will pay and mrs gamp will get the same lolly

    its rather like the post office phoney privatisation – a long term run-down of an inflated benefits system

    readers of this column should suspend disbelief and give generously

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    It's me 'uman rights to smoke and drink meself to death innit ? says:

    This is just the tip of the iceberg

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    nellnewman says:

    Labour – ‘The NHS Safe in Our Hands’ – ++++Hollow Laugh++++
    When are they going to prosecute aljohnson and burnham for negligence for those thousands of avoidable deaths that happened on labours watch?

    And then there’s bliar and alicampbell and their lies of ‘wmd at 45 mins’ to justify an unjustifiable war and the unexplained death of D r D a v i d K e l l y – labour with blood on their hands.

    And now this, labour’s plans for a Scroungers Charter!!

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    Lynton Crosby says:

    Guido,I HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK, just fuck off.

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      do you read as assiduously as you write? says:

      B. Boredom’s KT website allows free-speech, if you can be arsed to make a GooglacHunt, that is.

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    Andy "Maybelline" Burn'em says:

    I wish people would follow the lead of the BBC and call me The Hero of Hilsborough and not call me Commander in Chief of NHS Death Camps.

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    • 126
      nellnewman says:

      ‘In March 2009 Gordon Brown, then prime minister, told MPs: “I am assured by the Healthcare Commission [the then regulator]… that there is no equivalent case in all the other NHS hospitals across the country.” ‘

      We must not forget the role of your pal gordon in all of this . He tried his best to spin stafford as a one-off. 14 more hospitals later the truth about labour and their mismanagement of the NHS for the benefit of the Unions and to the detriment of the patients, is only just now beginning to emerge

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        Beeboid and Burnham say look squirrel says:

        Nell
        It’s being reported its over 20 now but the BBC are kindly blaming this on the present health secretary who unlike that scumbag Burnham ordered a full investigation.

        Before the week is out Stafford would have been the responsibility of the Tories

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  49. 118
    Benny Fitz-Clements says:

    YES !!! YES, YES, YES, YES YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS !!!!!

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  50. 129
    An unpaid marketing pawn & scapegoat for the BBC and other media outlets says:

    I am sick of this!

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  51. 132
    nellnewman says:

    “Jeremy Hunt said in his statement yesterday that the hospital regulator should be an organisation that stands up for patients without fear or favour. Yet Labour ministers – whose interest is spin and self preservation – tasked the regulator with ticking boxes and closing down problems. The former chair of the CQC, Baroness Young, has made very serious allegations that ministers ‘leaned on’ her to ‘tone down’ criticism of NHS organisations. She claims that “there was huge government pressure, because the government hated the idea that a regulator would criticise it”. Damningly, she revealed that this political pressure peaked under current shadow health secretary’s Andy Burnham’s tenure as secretary of state. This is why Labour turned down 81 separate requests for a public inquiry into the Mid Staffs scandal.”

    Imagine that andyburnham turned down 81 requests for a public inquiry into the deaths at north staffs – and he still had the brass neck to claim he’s innocent!!!

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    Labour screwed the country long enforce 2008 says:

    Vote UKIP will only split the vote on the right. Yes we would all ove to do it but if you do then be prepared for milligram balls and cable.

    If they ever get back into power then they will be in for ever. The system will be changed so that it becomes impossible to get anything but a left wing socialist government…how?

    Make everyone’s benefit a human right hence securing those votes under fear that anyone else will remove this odious idea.

    Vote Tory and only Tory. In 2015 its your last chance to save the country from the left and the clutches of Labour

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      oooh fancy splitting the vote says:

      It’s long past splitting the Conservative vote to let Liebour in, time has come to either vote UKIP or vote Conservative, as the Conservatives are just another part of Liebour , I think it’s time to take the chance and vote UKIP, if Liebour get in the we will be bankrupt within a few years, the LibLabCon shitehawkes can go to hell, vote UKIP.

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      Man from the street says:

      Oh the old friendly bit of advice approach, well your argument would be valid if the Conservative party resembled a centre right party and with UKIP just one point behind the Tories in the only poll that prompts for UKIP and averaging 26% in recent by-elections if your true intentions were to not split the right wing vote you should’ve advocating voting UKIP.

      Has it ever occurred to you that your sort are the jreason people don’t vote Tory (like 2010) because you put yourself before the cause.

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  53. 134
    An Australian says:

    Whinge

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  54. 139
    Tax Payer says:

    What about the human rights of the hard working tax payers who pay for all this ?

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    • 194
      Freeloader who votes Labour says:

      Shaddup and keep paying you mug. How can I afford me 60 inch plasma TV and Sky Subscription ???

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  55. 140
    Owen Jones says:

    Tory election guru Lynton Crosby facing questions over links to tobacco firm.

    Should be easy pickings for you,Guido.

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    Nigeria Islamists hit schools to destroy Western ideas

    Most of the teachers and pupils had fled, but some students, one teacher and headmaster Adanu Haruna were still in the compound, one of many rural boarding schools in Nigeria surrounded by forest and farmland.

    “They made the students line up and strip naked, then they made the ones with pubic hair lie face down on the ground,” Haruna said, eyes wide with horror at describing the attack on the iron-roofed school built by British colonisers in the 1950s.

    “They shot them point blank then set the bodies on fire.”

    The Mamudo government school, charred and smelling of scorched blood after 22 students and a teacher were killed there in the July 6 attack near Potiskum in Nigeria’s northeast, was the fourth to be targeted by suspected Boko Haram militants in less than a month.

    http://reut.rs/1409HTo

    How long before that happens in the British caliphate?

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    • 161

      Re-read my last sentence.

      Have you forgotten Woolwich?

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      • 187
        David, call me Prime Minister if you like says:

        *Draws pictures on Samantha’s, pregnant, belly*
        Hmm, guys. You really ARE at the cutting edge, are you not?

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      fitz fitz says:

      … the BBC did not over-describe the Nigeria horror … if the leftists are not brought to heel quickly, the BBC will be be left without a groundswell of support and will be wrecked and privatised … commercials every few minutes, lads ?

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        Point of Information 2 says:

        Rampant commercialism promotes materialism, which is the essence of Marxism. Commercializing the BBC would cement its Marxist capstone.

        Removing the element of fraud through funding the piece of shit differently would be a bonus. Paying out for a service which you likely do not watch because you wish to watch live television is an idea well past its sell-by date.

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  57. 145
    Owen 'Robin Hood' Jones says:

    When I am General secretary of the people’s republic of Britain.

    I will rob from the rich and give to the poor.

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      Dweeb says:

      Very noble of you, Owen. Unfortunately there won’t be any rich. But at least we’ll all be on benefits.

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  58. 146
    Len McCluskey says:

    I don’t suppose there will be much overblown hyperbolic rhetoric today, right?

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    Anonymous says:

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      Sally Bercow says:

      To start, I’ll have the Cream of Sum Yung Man please, waiter.

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    • 160
      Capt. Wingding-Crapfont says:

      This so unfunny first time. Almost unfunny my Englische pump-hole wife.

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        Garden Shed Time-Lord says:

        How long, E?

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          this cider make me angry an i needs a refund says:

          *waves*

          Fuck knows , honey .

          Them little shits is gonna wish they never hears of Ewa , I thinks ;p

          Bout 0600 hrs , I thinks .

          Ta for bovverin , an that x .

          E x x x

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        Anonymous ex-LibDem MP says:

        Melanie cuts through the boredom.

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        @BW

        You started talking about MP, not me. I had a look and the most recent was several weeks old. So don’t DYOR on me thank you very much, especially as I put my links in as a courtesy to my readers (see above).

        Presumably you found whatever she was saying too rabbinical for you on a Sunday? Still, at least you are not in Golders Green, with all those ZZ Top lookalikes recounting their most recent visit to the Wailing Wall. I am surprised that Rabbi Chaim Gunnar Kutsher-Dickov hasn’t come along and metaphorically bitten you on the arse!

        Shalom.

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        @NBW

        I have been working all today and occasionally switching laptop on to see what is happening. If BW can’t be arsed to do a bitly or a tinyurl, then I am not going to take him seriously.

        We probably all encounter journos who we know talk some sense but there is some impediment, stylistic or logically problematic, in there work which keeps us at arm’s length. I can name dozens of them and MP would certainly fit into that category. At times, you think they are absolutely spot on and at others you groan.

        People are going to think that about you and myself too. Since I write what I think (sometimes mischievously or ironically), I have to accept that others are doing the same.

        Criticism is not, and should not be, a problem for anyone. It is unsatisfactory IMHO to denigrate someone without giving some sort of signpost as to why you hold that view.

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        @NBW

        I had already seen that article. Has anyone noticed it is dated 22 July when today is only 14 July? Bastille day. Very strange.

        I have no problem with people hiding their sources when someone’s ID needs protecting, but public forum stuff? C’mon! (That is not a dig against you BTW.)

        Not convinced by her argument here but neither was I convinced by Netanyahu’s last speech at the General Assembly which was dumbed down to the nth degree with his utterly ridiculous graphic.

        Herein lies a problem as my sympathies are with the people rather than with their politicos who, increasingly nowadays, have to play a faux hand. I think you are saying this is all about audiences. That is the modern style, certainly. It mostly brings no answers.

        But I have met these people on their turf. I imagine that our friend has not. I have also met all their neighbours. Again…

        Both have pleasant and decent people in their populations but only one runs an efficient modern civil and democratic state.

        Would we wish Egypt’s or Iraq’s fate upon them. Not from my point of view.

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        @NBW 9:24 pm

        I think you can understand my issues with BW over ambiguity. Laziness does not help one’s message.

        Would not any reasonable person argue thus: If I were Israel, how would I react in the circumstances and given recent history. Of course, our friend is not interested in history so could not follow the argument or know about the series of wars started by Israel’s neighbours. Santayana spoke most eloquently on this but unfortunately is mostly misquoted.

        My take is that she is 90% factually correct here. Maybe more. How much blood must a nation allow to be shed to convince people it has a case?

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        @NBW 9:28 pm

        I have admitted elsewhere here that Farage has been more perceptive than I have on other topics.

        However, he is not infallible. Nor are any of us, me included.

        On this issue, I sincerely believe he is mistaken.

        Look at the Realpolitik here. He is making inroads into Labour territory. He hardly wants to undo that gain. Hence this argument. Prove me wrong.

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    • 164
      BOTTY-BOY!! says:

      ÜR Ä ÇÙÑT

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        Careful Thinker, in a garden shed says:

        “Recently, I found myself facing a baying mob, aka a booing, sneering audience bristling with outrage and hostility towards me, on Question Time.”

        She has a rather huge ego and narcississtic me, me, me, I, my, me complex.

        Nuke Mel P.

        Take out the QT reference, sign it, “Love E xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx”, and it could be anyone, for fuck’s sake.

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  61. 167
    Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:

    Accept the mumbo-jumbo about climate change and just pay higher taxes !!

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      Anonymous says:

      Maybe Ed Davey will take a trip with me. I will take him to all the places I visited on my 7 years of travels. I will show him what is happening to this planet. It is being destroyed.

      But I will also show him it has nothing to do with CO2 or any gas in the atmosphere.

      It is nothing to do with say coal as a fuel.

      I will, however, show him what is the cause: Humanity.

      So please Ed Davey open your eyes, or let someone open them for you, and see for yourself the so called science is just bad “theories” distracting us from the real blame.

      All good deceptions are based on truth but distorted for financial gain. Do not be their mark.

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      Sit Petra says:

      What does a “climate change scientist” specialise in?, think about it, Doh!.

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        WWF Mong says:

        He specialises in publishing our eco-bullshit as science – that is what we pay them for.

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      Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:

      HEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLPPPP !!!

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      ████ 'changed my tune ' Hoon says:

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    Idon'tneednodoctor says:

    Burnham – Resign you immoral scumbag.

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    Sun reader says:

    I am delighted to see we have a new Children’s Laureate… Mrs Blackman.

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      Dweeb says:

      Ah, a poet for da peeple’s kidz, describing herself as “I’m just Malorie Blackman, a black woman writer”.

      Interesting to note from her Wiki entry that she studied at plebeian Thames Polytechnic. Dig around elsewhere and you find she also attended upper-crust Marlborough College, whose alumni include Sam Cam, Kate and Pippa Middleton, Princess Eugenie, Otis Ferry, Dan Hannan and … wait for it… Sally Bercow.

      Nothing wrong with that of course. Just sayin’.

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        fitz fitz says:

        Otis, Otis …

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        Prof Higgins says:

        If the Ber Cow went to snooty Marlborough, how come she speaks like a chav? All nasal and glottal stops.

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          Dweeb says:

          For the same reason that Ms Blackperson wants to forget her privileged education. They’re now dahn wiv da kidz so the Beeb and Groaniad will love them.

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    Slave for the BBC says:

    Burnham should do the decent thing and resign.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/heal-our-hospitals/10178552/Labours-denial-machine-over-hospital-death-rates.html

    The Spin Machine that is New Labour is fucking EVIL and cost lives in Iraq & the NHS.

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  65. 190
    Penfold says:

    Oh dear God.
    These people are not on Planet Earth.
    Will benefit rights be enshrined with eugenics?, that only those deserving will have rights, and who decides who’s deserving?
    Beatrice and Sydney must be having a right little laugh.

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  66. 191
    From the people who brought you..... says:

    The Fabians of course have a proud hisTory of advocating Eugenics and many of their ilk formed the Blackshirts in the 1930s

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  67. 193
    Slave for the BBC says:

    The Evil B.liarites want to take over the Labour Party. Toxic Tony’s Tribe are self serving Hunts!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/bravo-ed-miliband-but-wholl-pay-for-the-election-now-8707419.html

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  68. 195
    Sit Petra says:

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  69. 203
    Garden Shed Time-Lord, naked in the loft says:

    Are you just going to see your time out on here then, dear? From the Skype screenshots, you seem to have a few more years in you.
    Too many, maybe?

    Like

    • 207
      passing a breezy one says:

      Arguing with yourself can stimulate the brain to make the body indestructible, forever.

      Like

  70. 211
    24 Hours to cover up the failings in the NHS says:

    I heard Andy Burnham finds it objectionable to being held to account.

    Like

  71. 212
    Benny Fitz-Clements says:

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  72. 231
    B. Botty esq. says:

    Who reads the fucking Sun, anyway?

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  73. 232
    fitz fitz says:

    Cherie Blair and all the Matrix lot must be salivating over this new Right … the trough is already waiting …

    Like

  74. 235
    McSHANES laptop emporium ? says:

    It’a already a “Human right in this country , thats why millions of fat slappers are breeding for benefits
    Who’s bastards in return will do exactly the same

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  75. 240
    I don't want 2 share the same air as the leeching scrotes in Edinburgh. They are dogshite on my shoe says:

    It doesn’t work does it?

    Like

  76. 259
    David, call me Prime Minister if you like says:

    Bless. He’s wandered off for some munchies.

    Like

  77. 268
    Allislost says:

    Needed:
    A party of the people for the people and not the elitist few.
    Absolute essentials: Affordable food. An affordable roof over the head. Affordable warmth, in a cold climate of 8 months a year. A not for profit NHS. Honesty.

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  78. 270
    Man from the street says:

    With UKIP just one point behind the Tories in the only poll that prompts for UKIP and averaging 26% in recent by-elections the only way to vote in 2014 and 2015 is UKIP, they truly are the detoxified Tory party, a party that any morally conservative person can vote for without the stigma of voting Tory.

    Thanks Dave you were good to your word, you did de-toxify the Tory party, it’s just a shame for your it wasn’t the Tories.

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  79. 272
    Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:

    HHHEEEELLLPPPP !!!!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22883414

    Like

  80. 278

    Skid and Mark in just a matter of hours. (Don’t think there ever was a Skid incidentally – Mark was just trying to hose off the blame.)

    Like

    • 285
      Front Running the Monday Morning Cryptic Cartoon says:

      Hmm… Balls out for sheepy wolves where Owen Jones takes a brown shirt full of money from Union pay master.

      They need to start working in an increasingly irritated elephant with UKIP painted on it’s trunk to reflect in cartoon style what is happening with the electorate. The elephant should occupy at least 25% of the page.

      Like

    • 355
      a non says:

      Personally, for kids’ attempts I think the Miss Fawkeses are doing a reasonable job.

      Like

  81. 284
    Anonymous says:

    Politicians Don’t Understand Harm Caused By Damaging Immigration Rhetoric, Says Lib Dem Sarah Teather

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    • 287
      Cheap Populist Politician, likely to lose his seat to UKIP says:

      We do understand. Why do you think we are doing it.

      You don’t think we are stupid do you ?

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    • 306
      Universal Hiss says:

      If one deletes the word rhetoric,I’d say she was correct.

      Like

  82. 288
    Mother Linden, Linden Lab 945 Battery Street San Francisco, CA 94111 says:

    To whom it may concern:
    Ultimately, you will be banned from having an IP address. We are not wankers and we take our on-line activities extremely seriously. We squeeze real dollars from the feeble-of-mind.
    Having you jumping all over us like a pigmy pony is not helping us to reach our target audience.
    Your account will re-activated when we feel you have become, fully, Stepfordized.

    P.S. In about 2 hours, Ewa. Kisses.

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  83. 293
    An MP defecting to UKIP before summer recess would put the Lion among the pidgeons says:

    Just Sayin’ :-D

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  84. 320

    It seems that civil rights groups in the US do not accept justice. All-woman jury. Would a male jury have been harder on Zimmerman?

    We have not yet emerged from the state where the criminal is in the right and the victim is guilty as a starting position. No system of justice is perfect.

    But the mood in the USA has turned. It is turning in Britain, far too late, but it is turning.

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    • 324
      David, call me Prime Minister if you like says:

      I HATES right-wing poseurs.

      *waves anyway*

      lol DcmPMiyl x x x

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    • 333
      A Sardine says:

      The problem of emotional engagement is the most tricky for the justice system and those who practice within it to manage.

      It is not about presumed guilt, but always about presumed innocence until facts have proven beyond reasonable doubt.

      Those who make out otherwise – particularly the civil liberty groups and left – do so for their own objective reasons. As do those who practice the dark arts of global climate change research under the banner of ‘science’.

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    • 384
      Drummer Lee Rigby says:

      What do you suppose would have happened if, like George Zimmerman, I had been armed with a pistol, and, as a last resort, employed lethal force?

      Stephen Lawrence case, anyone? Keep going till the Crown gets it “right”?

      That would never happen, yeah?

      Just like all the usual suspects of the Lee Jasper-equivalent ilk over in the States aren’t trying to trump up phony Federal charges against Zimmo, either.

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  85. 321
    Ahmed Rafiq al-Hakim bin Majid al-Nori bin bin says:

    It is my humans right to kill all infidels! Death to kuffars!

    Now, where do I get the form for Jobseekers Allowance?

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  86. 325
    Eminem says:

    When I was just a little baby boy
    Labour used to tell me such crazy things
    They used to tell me that Thatcher was an evil woman
    They used to tell me she hated me
    But then I got a little bit older
    And I realised that they were the crazy ones
    But there was nothing that I could say or do
    Cos that’s just the way they are

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  87. 328
    Schrodinger's budgie says:

    If there’s one thing more annoying than politicians openly pandering to big business interests at the expense of doing what’s right – it’s politicians openly pandering to big business interests at the expense of doing what’s right and thinking we’re all too stupid to notice.

    Here are three facts:
    Lynton Crosby is the Tories’ chief election strategist.
    Lynton Crosby’s firm Crosby Textor is a paid lobbyist for big tobacco companies such as Philip Morris and British American Tobacco.
    The Tories have dropped plans to introduce plain packaging for cigarettes – a policy strongly opposed by big tobacco companies such as Philip Morris and British American Tobacco.

    Now, got your stupid hat on? Good. Because here’s what the Tories want you to believe.

    These three pieces of information are entirely unrelated.

    OK?

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    • 332
      David, call me Prime Minister if you like says:

      I Lab/Tory/Lib/Schrodey proof , ain’t I , babes ???

      Like

      • 337
        Twat Watch says:

        Ewa – me – both, honey buns. But, petal, where pray do you lay your political hat / apron ? Beneath the sheep skin hearth there lies a sheep – eh babes ?

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        • 366
          Microsoft "Reg-mark" are a bunch of tossers says:

          Only in ur “special” world, baby. I jus giggles @ ur faux-sincerite (wivva accent)

          Like

    • 334
      Very disgruntled Tory voter says:

      Grant Shapps on Any Questions yesterday avoided giving a direct answer on whether Cameron had ‘had a conversation’ with Crosby’ about this.

      He did claim he hadn’t had a conversation with Crosby.
      Didn’t say whether Crosby had talked to Michael Green, or Shapps’ other business alter egos

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    • 335
      nellnewman says:

      Hmmm. So putting cigarettes into plain packaging is going to stop people smoking .

      How? Why?

      Do you really think the folks on benefits who smoke and drink , as a main focus of their life, will give all that up and buy healthy food and start jogging in the mornings just because the government decides to put tobacco under plain cover and put a minimum price on bottles of wine.

      What idiocy is this?!!

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      • 341
        Point of Information 2 says:

        It would perhaps be better for government to ban the filling of cigarette packets with cigarettes, rather than messing with the labels.

        People would stop buying empty packets fairly quickly, and without cigarettes available the number of those who would give up would increase dramatically.

        This plan has probably been seriously discussed at high levels before, however, for some reason rejected as good policy.

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      • 342
        notnellnewman who isn't nell newman anyway says:

        The issue is why the government suddenly changed its mind. Still, Cameron wouldn’t lie, would he?

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    • 340
      Hippo Crits says:

      And now you can put on your stupid hat and explain why Labour also opposed plain packaging for 13 years. It’s ok, I can wait.

      Like

    • 397
      Dweeb says:

      Budgie, could it be because, just for once, they have done the right thing?

      As I’ve said before, all that plain packaging has done on Oz is boost the sale of designer cigarette cases as a must-have fashion accessory.

      Like

  88. 329
    Wayne and Chantiqua says:

    We’re in the bennies
    We’re in the bennies
    We’ve got a lot of what it takes to sit on our arse

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  89. 338
    Kebab Information Service says:

    The Police take a back hander from a newspaper and we call it a bribe. Politicians take money from a large corporation and we call it funding.

    You couldn’t make it up …. hypocrisy of the highest order.

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  90. 344
    Elliot Ness says:

    Not really. I’m not a smoker myself and can’t stand the smell, but what you’re suggesting is the equivalent of prohibition. And we know how well that worked out.

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  91. 346
    Andy Burnham is a cunt news says:

    http://newportcity.blogspot.com/2008/12/andy-burnham-is-Hunt.html?m=1

    More death camps in the NHS to add to his C.V.

    Like

    • 348
      Wake up Liverpool says:

      Andy Burnham killed more on the care pathways than people died at Hillsborough.

      Ratio is of order 100:1 fatalities Burnham NHS : Major Police screw up.

      Penny dropping ?

      Like

  92. 351
    • 361
      Point of Information 2 says:

      No. The women were desperate for children.

      Access to benefits may have helped the women make their decision, but this would likely have happened irrespective of that.

      Absent strong moral codes, nature will take its course as it will.

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  93. 353
    Anonymous says:

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  94. 356
    Andy's cool son. says:

    If Crosby becomes the story, and it looks like that’s what is happening, then he’s finished. Which is a good thing.

    Like

  95. 357
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    That Crosby character should be nowhere near Cameron and his Government.

    One of the clearest conflicts of interest I have seen in ages.

    He should have been told to sling his hook by now.

    There should be a full audit trail into this little appointment to check that money has not been going where it should not be going.

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  96. 358
    Private Eye says:

    Exclusive: GF Troll Ewa outed as Owen Jones !

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  97. 360
    Ian Kiernan says:

    We have “Plain Tobacco Packaging” in Australia and it is working a treat. Less and less tobacco users all the time and many places where you cannot smoke outdoors as well as indoors. At long last we are learning to breathe clean air again and we had hoped that our British Brothers and Sisters were about to join us, but then you lot cave in to the Tobacco Industry. Shame on you, shame shame shame. I might add that we are not referring to tobacco users as “Smokers” anymore, but instead as “Suckers” because that is what tobacco users do. Ciggies “Smoke”, users “Suck” :p

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    • 367
      Guido Fawkes says:

      Shame on you for posting here, farkwad :)

      Like

    • 376
      13 million smokers could eject any government at the ballot box says:

      Ian Kiernan, you’re deluded. What is putting some Australians off smoking is a gargantuan tax increase.

      Australian cigarettes cost over £12 per pack !!!

      Cameron or any other PM who tries that here will be chewed up and spat out OUT by smokers at the next election.

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    • 404
      Dweeb says:

      What the fuk are you on about, “learning to breath clean air again”? You’ve got more air in Australia than my Aldi tyre pump. You’re fucking paranoid.

      I note that the first known case of “water psychosis” – a woman’s refusal to drink water because it will deplete the planet’s resources – comes from Australia.

      Now you’re complaining about a pea-sized plug of burning vegetable matter. Yes, you’re all fucking paranoid.

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  98. 370
    Moussa Koussa mark 14 says:

    The Conservative party is such a patriotic party. That’s why they rely on foreign billionaires, tax cheats and foreign plutocrats. They are incapable of persuading people to vote for their neo-liberal conservatism so instead they use mass fraud on the idiots who vote. The kind of morons who with their anti-EU blinkers cannot see any other issue in front of that. What’s that Mr Cameron, lower wages are good for me? Of course I’ll vote for you. You mean if my boss can sack me more easily, that means it’s more likely I’ll have a job? Of course you’re right! Really? G4S is the solution to an inefficient public sector. Thank god for my elders and betters. The Conservative Party. They know what’s best. Can’t trust Labour, their leaders are socialist. Bad people. Lord whatsisname and her Ladyship. They’ll see the country right. Must vote for them. A working class Tory: the definition of stupidity

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  99. 372
    Fabians are evil says:

    Told you so!

    Like

  100. 380
    Andy Burnham the NHS Monster. says:

    The Nazi death camp leader of the NHS wants to ban Sugar Puffs & Frosties. To think that the Fashist Hunt wanted to be Labour leader.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9675904/MPs-should-consider-banning-Frosties-says-Andy-Burnham.html

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  101. 386
    Andy Burnham Shadow Heath Monster says:

    NHS failings
    ‘suppressed for
    electoral reasons’

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23309720

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  102. 387
    Saffron says:

    The human rights framework came after ww2 seeing what had been done by despots as regards peoples rights.
    Seeing that the benefits culture as we see it today did not exsist back in them days what the feckin hell is liebours game plan to try and make benefit scroungers proptected by human rights.
    As I have read today in the press are liebour proposing a benefit scroungers charter.
    This liebour lot led by the unions are a communist disgrace who for reasons unknown by me people keep on voting for.
    Talk about lemmings and cliffs you can’t get better than this.

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  103. 388
    Just asking says:

    Isn’t Crosby in one of those positions that are vetted by the security services? Wasn’t there concern about the lack of vetting of Coulson?

    Or are the security services too busy packing people into sports bags and listening into John and Joan Smith phone conversations to worry about top officials?

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    • 391
      GCHQ Orange, High Heels and Suspenders Department says:

      Could you just say that again so we can get a fix on your position ?

      Like

  104. 389
    easy meat zappa says:

    *Dumps shite on blog*

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  105. 392
    Moussa Koussa mark 14 says:

    Once again we see the Tory party putting their business mates ahead of the health of the nation is just not surprising.

    They’ve allowed vending machines and junk food into schools.

    They abolished free swimming for children and pensioners.

    Use of foodbanks is soaring

    The Tories are pushing more children into poverty.

    They are forcing people to either pay the v bedroom tax or eat and come winter when people will have to pay increased utility bills they will be starving, in poverty abd freezing cold too!

    They are dividing and conquering this country and turning people against each other.

    Suicides are rising as people can no longer cope.

    The Tories are in the act of deliberately running the NHS down, as they privatise it.

    Soon we will be charged to see our GPs.

    Now we have the abandonment of the plain packaging policy on cigarettes, no doubt closely followed by the dropping of the minimum alcohol policy.

    The Conservative party is VERY bad for our health.

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    • 395
      Keep calm, vote UKIP says:

      There is another way.

      Like

      • 401
        easy meat up Duffy's winky says:

        But you haven’t got a clue *winks*

        Like

        • 403
          Keep calm, vote UKIP says:

          Nope. I’ll watch and learn on my Sennheisers from beyond the kennel that my Nazty parents have banned me from.

          Like

    • 411
      Dweeb says:

      Being charged to see the GP is an excellent idea. It will deter hypochondriacs, sick-note harvesters, and mothers who insist their child has an allergeeeee when the solution is to stop feeding them crap.

      Like

  106. 396
    Anonymous says:

    When I signed on last week I was told in my small area there were over 3000 vacancies in my area in my sector. The assertion was made on a count of vacancies on a job aggregator site. I responded if that were so we would have full employment. I then showed the numpty that 90% were more than 3 weeks old so filled. Then I demonstrated how many of the remaining vacancies were just a few in number just relisted by over 20 companies.

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  107. 399
    easy meat up Duffy's winky says:

    Ignore the Daily Femail and,………..

    +++HOLD KAY BURLEY’S BALLS++++

    …..Your typing has got me THINKING

    Like

  108. 402
    Heat Wave for Andy. says:

    It is the final countdown to Burnhams meltdown. Doodoodoo! The Heat Wave is on! :)

    Like

  109. 405
    Saffron says:

    Mascara Man Burny.
    Saw him today getting a bit stroppy,he should remember that a lot of this NHS failure to offer basic care happened on his watch.
    Just what does basic care mean in terms of patients:-
    1) That they are fed.
    2) That they are watered.
    3)That they are cleaned to make them comfortable.
    Is this rocket science well absolutely not.
    These things happen all over the country every day in families who care for people.
    Burnioism appears to only care for getting off the hook and football to try and make a name for himself ala the hills disaster.

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    • 407
      e-substitute says:

      Fuck cares . Gonna wade in there an spank botties .

      E x x x

      Like

      • 413
        Stat Tractor says:

        30 billion users at any one time, E.

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      • 417
        Not: E ! says:

        BDSM on the NHS ? Not the best timing politically with all this murder business being resolved. Whatever floats yer boat though petal.

        Andy would approve.

        Like

      • 420
        Mother Linden, Linden Lab 945 Battery Street San Francisco, CA 94111 says:

        Welcome back, Golden Gazelle of The Universe. Please refrain from saying anything.

        Like

  110. 409
  111. 410
    Pygmalion: Why George Bernard Shaw should have got a blow job says:

    It most certainly wouldn’t be luverly if benefits and human rights were fused in this way. Eliza Doolittle would become Eliza Dofuckall, at Henry’s enforced expense.

    Like

  112. 416
    Richard Timney says:

    I want to be the Ron Jeremy of the UK.

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  114. 430
    And he is wrong? says:

    Like

    • 434

      Diane Abbott has the features, the size and the brain of an orangutan.

      Before I get hit by the normal abuse, I just want to apologise to all orangutans who may be posting, or lurking, here today.

      Like

    • 435
      Treble standards says:

      So it’s OK to say Sam Cam looks like a horse, Margaret Moran looks like a Pig but not OK to say this lady looks like an Orangutan. As all three ladies do resemble the chosen animal why is it only wrong to do the Orangutan comparison

      Like

    • 455
      Fabians are evil says:

      I have news for you Diane; Orangutans do not try and stir up Racist comment and, by the way, I would rather have an Orangutan as my M.P. than you or any of your other Labour drones – he/she would certainly do less harm than Labour did in ‘government’.

      Like

    • 462
      Fabians are evil says:

      Like

    • 465
      Clyde says:

      So what has abbott got against Orangutans? They are lovely animals and I would consider it an honour to be compared.

      Like

    • 501
      Betty Boop says:

      “They went upon their Abbott dabba honeymoon!”

      BOOP BOOP BE DOOP!

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  115. 441
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Guido’s flushed them out again!

    Benefits a human right? Sorry but it’s a responsibility to pay taxes and get a job first before you start draining the cash.

    Only people like cripples or mental nutters should get benefits without being able to work.

    Like

    • 442
      Horses 4 courses says:

      Well cripples can do call centers and nutters are ideal for local government.

      Like

      • 447
        Passing Linden, Linden Lab 945 Battery Street San Francisco, CA 94111 character map etc. says:

        And you type rubbish on here for a dollar? We thought we were idiots.

        Like

        • 449
          David, call me Prime Minister if you like says:

          HAY , darlin !!!

          He the furniture an I the cogwebs , babes .

          Now , fuck off back to ur own shitscape , loser .

          Ta .

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  116. 448
    Nick says:

    with the many who have died so far in going through the welfare reform the government have been lucky that these deaths keep being swept under the carpet

    however you would have to be a most remarkable government to keep these deaths quite for ever and there will be a time when justice will need to be served on those responsible for the errors that have led to the many hundreds that have died so far

    as for when that day of judgement will come is anyone’s guess but it will come that you all can be assured of

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    • 452
      Andy Bumhum says:

      There’s no room under the carpet since I swept thousands underneath it.

      Like

      • 464
        Old Nick says:

        Oh yes! I have a special corner of Hell put aside for all those Socialists who have killed in the name of the socialist agenda – Old ‘Uncle’ Joe Stalin is my Trustee

        Like

  117. 454
    Hey, Dickhead *waves* says:

    He pumps out day-loads of bollocks.

    Like

    • 456
      Lil' Pull StainyWainy says:

      No kidding. I’ve been coming here for five years and have yet to be entertained.

      Like

      • 459
        not here for the ride says:

        He bans anything that shows signs of life. It’s a socialist bent.

        Like

      • 466
        R. Youshore says:

        Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

        Albert Einstein

        Like

        • 469
          Albert Einstein says:

          Lolz @ blogtard

          Like

        • 473
          Ewa says:

          LMFAO , darlin !!!

          U posts crap on here coz ur in *unemployable market* , yeah ??

          Little Piss Brains does u some pocket-money ???. LOL !!1

          Fair-dos , but any Hoon can Google stuff , darlin : )

          When u gonna get some RL , baby ??

          The clock is tickin , petal : )

          E x x

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          • Oz Linden, Bowel-Ferret, Linden Lab 945 Battery Street San Francisco, CA 94111 says:

            Your accont is unsuspended now.

            Like

          • Ewa says:

            Okios , honey x.

            I , probly , bored wiv ur shit now , tho , ain’t I ?? :(

            I gonna put somethin on an re-group , I thinks .

            Ta for bovverin , an that .

            E x x

            Like

          • Oz Linden, Bowel-Ferret, Linden Lab 945 Battery Street San Francisco, CA 94111 says:

            There’s FIVE L$ FREE waiting for you, you naughty girl.

            Like

          • Ewa says:

            Yeah , honey ??

            I gonna piss on ur RL grave , I thinks : )

            *waves*

            Luv E x x

            Like

          • Not Ewa says:

            That’s some pretty fucked up shit, Ewa.

            Leave that dude’s grave alone, but feel free to hump Ralph Miliband’s next time you’re in town.

            Hell, spit on it, rub ur rag on it, photograph it, and post it up on uTube, know what I mean girl ?

            You’ll get some hardcore respect if you screw that b!tch’s headstone up. Go get ‘em petal.

            NE x x x

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  118. 468
    you know it makes sense says:

    This show why the English need to vote UKIP.

    Get out of the EU.

    Go back to the freedoms enshrined by Magna Carta and forget the socialist “human rights” legislation.

    Let socialism exist merely to put a brake on the worst excesses of capitalism.

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    • 479
      albacore says:

      Another scare story – don’t let Labour in
      You must vote Tory or the bad guys will win
      Tories, after all, are so messianic
      With Dave in charge – phew! – there’s no need to panic
      Well, that’s unless you take a look at the facts
      These days crap is all that Parliament attracts
      Whether the label proclaims Lib, Lab or Con
      The contents are the same: not worth pissing on

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  119. 480
    "Ewa" n "Me" says:

    yuo acn write bollobks n tweet @ same time but musiv is god ;

    Like

    • 484
      Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

      How naked and drunk are you, dear? Reg is at eleven on the “Powder Scale”, if that’s any consolation.

      Like

      • 487
        "Ewa" n "Me" says:

        I @ 10 , Elsie , honey ; )

        Fell over , cracks somethin chesty , in April 2013 , an feelin bit dry .

        Wish these wankers would wake me up , ffs .

        I LUVS stuff wot moves , an that , doesn’t I ??

        Part from solar – plexis , maybes ??

        How ur Reg , darlin ??

        Ouch E x x x

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        • 489
          Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

          Lots of Love, dear. Reg has been rather incommunicado since you invented him.

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  120. 482
    A Machine says:

    Where is ‘not a machine’ when we need him?
    Come home, mate. All is forgiven.
    Just tell us what we did wrong, so we won’t do it again.

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  121. 483
    Labour says:

    Only Labour can be trusted on the NHS. We’ll make sure your elderly relatives starve to death or die of thirst or sleep in their own shit.

    Like

    • 488
      Andy Burnham: Opening statement for the defense says:

      Of course we couldn’t afford oranges, sports bags and quite that much lingerie, so we had no other choice than to let them die of dehydration in their own p!ss.

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  122. 486
    Fat slob on a couch watching Jeremy Kyle says:

    It’s my human right to have 14 kids, a plasma telly, 20 packs of cigarettes a day, 10 bottles of whisky a day, a chinese takeaway every night and lots of free money to raise my 9 kids at home. And I need the spare 5 bedrooms for when my other 5 kids are released from prison.

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  123. 490
    Oz "Gaytard" Linden, Bowel-Ferret, Linden Lab 945 Battery Street San Francisco, CA 94111 says:

    Your account has been un-deactivated, Elsie.
    We appreciate your custom.

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      E says:

      Coooeeeee !!!!

      U pathetic little shitter , Oz, petal :)

      Does u know who I is , for fuck’s sake ???

      Doncha tell him , Stevie –

      I do limerick , if u does , darlin *winks*

      As ever , E x x x

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  124. 491
    Not Ewa says:

    Okios – super.

    Past ur bedtime honey ? Or was your last trick late showing up ?

    ** grins **

    Probly bored wiv ur life now, so off you go for that date with the noose, petal ? That is your human, right ;-)

    Hugs, NE x x x

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  125. 497
    Jessica Wine de O'Flaps says:

    lol @ the tart

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  126. 498
    Just in case you missed it says:

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    • 512
      Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:

      We need to scaremonger otherwise how can we raise taxes in order to pay for our pay increases ?

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  127. 500
    Anonymous says:

    BBC headline: “NHS failings ‘being suppressed'”. Present tense, ffs!

    Of course the actual story (bbc news, health) is about the period of Labour’s slaughter in 2005 – 10, though the full text is a classic fudge, beginning with more dissembling bollocks such as “ministers have suppressed details of NHS failings to avoid losing votes”.

    Evil Tories again, eh?

    Just another little example of BBC’s continual attempts to confuse and mislead the ignorant reader.

    F**king Huhnes!

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  128. 507
    mike rigby says:

    What the fuck do you think I pay lots of tax and NI for?
    If I am unlucky enough to lose my job, of course I want some of my bloody money back.
    Otherwise, what’s the bloody point of paying into the system at all Guido?
    Moron.

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    • 511
      LibLabConners says:

      We’ve spent all your money on the public sector skivers, vanity projects, and our own expenses.
      It’s no longer there for you to have back.
      But don’t worry, we’re just going to print some more.
      “INFLATION GOOD, AUSTERITY (alias proper financial control) BAD”

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  129. 509
    Ed MiliwiMPs Misdirection attempts to save the Andy Burnham Planet makes him look weak and immoral. says:

    Crosby gives Miliwimp the runs, Ed is shit scared of him!

    Labour’s misdirection tricks are just as dodgy as their Evil Spin. Ed wants to save his Shadow Health Monster from having to grow a moral spine and do the decent thing by resigning.

    Look over there Andy? Crosby is ‘avin a fag and he is using a shalegas lighter. By tapping into the pc bollox like smoking & environment then maybe no one will notice that Labour have turned the NHS into death camps.

    The media treat us like fools with scapegoat electricks like this:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/now-cameron-aide-lynton-crosbys-links-to-fracking-industry-are-explored-8708331.html

    Journalists should do their job properly by ditching the scapegoat journalism and making Burnharm and Labour accountable for their Evil actions. The public deserve better than this shoddy journalism. Ffs.

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    • 510
      LibLabConners says:

      We’ve told you plebs before — “The NHS is the envy of the World.” In fact it is so good we must spend 110% of GDP on it, to raise it to a yet higher level of perfection.

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        Ed MiliwiMPs Misdirection attempts to save the Andy Burnham Planet makes him look weak and immoral. says:

        If I want health advice I won’t be looking for it from Labour. Their nhs policies stink of reeking corpses. Labour are busy spinning on graves while journalists look for a scapegoat to stop Labour from doing the right thing by taking responsibility for their mismanagement of the nhs! Burnham should resign!

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      • 518
        Tony B.liar and his Spinning Corpses Party says:

        Iraq had a brilliant health service until I bombed it with Spin &Lies. The electorate really are sheep.

        Burnham’s 13,000 corpses makes him an amateur?

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  130. 515
    Calamity Clegg, Chief Cockroach says:

    ONLY the Liberal Democrats can think up such brilliant ideas…

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  131. 516
    Owen Jones,just another champagne socialist says:

    Frozen yoghurt: one of humanity’s greatest inventions?

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  132. 517
    Thompson_Dartington_Smith says:

    How much of that squandered lake of North Sea oil benefited the average UK citizen?
    Now they are about to pull the same trick with shale gas. charging us TRIPLE for what we own already, enriching the Multinationals but impoverishing the citizen.
    It may seem strange, but many residents of oil rich countries of the world already have a sort of guaranteed national wage (or soft job) irrespective of personal circumstances, which is in effect a sort of universal benefit.
    Is it not always the case that the people who are most scared of true equality are those who know they own more than to which they are entitled?

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  133. 524
    polythesis says:

    Making benefits a ‘human right’ is a brilliant idea…if you are a lawyer, it would be a veritable gold rush that would make the windmill/renewable fraud look like chump change. Overnight it would provide lucrative work lasting years for nigh on every legal firm, when you look behind the proclaimed moral motivations you usually find some rich looters and spivs with an eye to the main chance.

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  134. 525
    Len McCluskey says:

    Today’s “No shit, Sherlock?!” moment is from Owen Jones,the champagne Socialist: “The recession is over.”

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  135. 528
    Lord Scalded Bollock says:

    Middle East:Chaos, Turkey unstable, Italian politics, Portugal on the verge, Spain:incompetence,Greece:business as usual. What can go wrong?

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  136. 529
    Stolen innocence 2012 of United Wheeldom says:

    Reblogged this on stoleninnocence2012's Blog.

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  137. 530
    We should be told says:

    Ed wrote a policy idea on his blank sheet of paper today.

    Then he rubbed it out again.

    Is this his very first U-turn of his own?

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  138. 531
    Ruprecht says:

    Well obviously if the Sun, my stooge here and the Daily Fail pick this shit up then it’s one of my propaganda campaigns. nomesayin?

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  139. 533
    The Voice Of Terror says:

    ‘You’re Mr Sheerlock ‘olmes ain’t ya, I wouldn’t come down ‘ere if I was you, this is Lime’ouse, and we don’t fancy your sort of bloke in these parts.’

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