July 11th, 2013

New MPs’ Pay Package Costs Half a Million More a Year

IPSA’s 11% pay increase for MPs includes:

  • a salary of £74,000 in 2015, indexed to average earnings in the whole economy thereafter;
  • a new pension on a par with those in other parts of the public service, saving the taxpayer millions;
  • scrapping out-of-touch “resettlement payments” worth tens of thousands of pound per MP and introducing more modest, modern redundancy packages, available only to those who contest their seat and lose; and
  • a tighter regime of business costs and expenses – ending the provision for things such as evening meals.

They are spinning hard by throwing expenses into the mix so overall they can say money is being saved. On pay alone this is a net cost of £500,000 a year….


72 Comments

  1. 1
    House of ill repute says:

    Here piggy piggy

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    • 7
      Having your cake and eating it. says:

      MPs’ conflicting argument.

      We can’t lecture the world on human rights if we behave like the rest of the world.

      We can’t do our job unless we are paid like the rest of the world.

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      • 28
        Francis Maude is a **** says:

        Seeing as most new “sparkle” MPs that are parachuted into safe seats are either twenty-somethings or early thirty-somethings…£74,000 a year can be considered to be not a bad screw, especially when considering the 20 odd weeks holiday a year and platignum plated pensions.

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      • 46
        Django Angryheart. says:

        I keep hearing MPs state that the rise isn’t warranted, I’ve yet to hear one say that he or she won’t take it… They are basically useless the lot of them!

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    • 11
      V1le Labour trashed my Country says:

      Come on and get in the trough piggies, oh, you were already in there! I’m feeling really enriched and loving my super diverse multicultural eu dominated corrupt UK shithouse of a Country.

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      • 21
        Anonymous says:

        me too….i’m thinking how much my children are going to enjoy it to in twenty years or so, my god aren’t they going to be lucky…

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      • 58
        A Comment says:

        Fuck off to another country then. You will not be missed. Or simply stay here, continue being an angry idiot. Multiculturalism will continue to embrace you, even angry idiots are an accepted culture within our fine nation.

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        • 61
          Anonymous says:

          better still why dont you fuck off to another country and take your multicultural friends with you…….And you sure as hell wont be missed….

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        • 63
          Anonymous says:

          Fine nation, open your fuckin eyes, not anymore…

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          • A Comment says:

            Just got back from a great sports day at my kids school..all seemed mighty fine to me.

            Have yourself a lovely day.

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          • Anonymous says:

            my kids sports day was great too, but its not a great reflection whats going on in our country you fuckin retard….

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  2. 2
    Culturally enriched MP says:

    If evening meals are no longer allowed can I claim for meals at 2am during Ramadan?

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  3. 3
    Luciana Berger says:

    Because I’m worth it.

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    • 66
      More4Less says:

      It is worth it IF they
      * Increase the size of constituencies and make them similar in size.
      * Dramatically reduce the number of MPs.

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  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Seems reasonable.

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  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    “by throwing expenses into the mix”

    Which is absolutely correct. Expenses are part of overall remuneration for MPs, and you yourself have treated them as such in the past.

    If anyone is spinning, you are, trying to do anything you can to whip up claims of greed when the reality doesn’t fit your facts.

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    • 9
      Simple Sword Of Truth says:

      So, how much PER DAY is McDoom earning for his rare appearances as an MP?

      Now tell me that is not corrupt & greedy.

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    • 10
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Ecoloons says:

      What is to stop them still fiddling their expenses as before?

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      • 24
        An M.P. says:

        Look you ungrateful bastards, you need to pay for my mortgage, fuel bills, redecoration cost, food and drink, air, rail and taxi fares, running car costs, insurance, Sky subscriptions, phone bills, heating costs, furniture, new televisions, pnones and computers, gardening bills, house repairs, carpets and chrystal glass bowls.

        In fact, just about everything you plebs have to cough up hard earned for.

        Because I am worth it, I am very important and you are not. Get it?

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    • 15
      Piggy pig pig piggy MP's says:

      In the real world most workers don’t have expenses to throw in or out the fucking mix.
      The cost of running my car to commute to work comes out my pay.
      My lunch is paid for out of my pay.
      My shoes and work clothes are paid for out of my fucking pay.
      Get it?

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      • 20
        Anonymous says:

        In the public sector if you require, for your job, a qualification based membership of a body, that has to be paid out of your salary.

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  6. 6
    Basil Fawlty says:

    Can’t we just string the lot of them up slowly on lamp posts with piano wire.

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  7. 8
    Joey Deacon says:

    I could be just as useless as most MP’s in parliament for a fraction of the cost.

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  8. 12
    Steve Miliband says:

    Just shows how much they must have been creaming off expenses.

    Has the BBC head of HR been sacked yet?

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  9. 13
    Fuck Em says:

    Sky had their cameras at the Portcullis House car park gate this morning filming MPs on their way to work. FFS the cars they were driving cost more than their annual pay after this payrise. Methinks they are making at least twice the advertised rate when expenses, select committees and jollys are taken into account.

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    • 29
      Stay asleep comrade, you can always have beautiful dreams that way says:

      Stop spreading lies comrade.

      The average MP drives a bottom of the range Ford or Skoda, can only afford a one week holiday in Skegness and lives like every other worker in the commune, with no special privileges.
      The running dog Sky media, is lying and you have been tricked by their lies.

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      • 47
        q says:

        sky mulling over the ashes of inpropriatory, again – notice how i got the ashes in ….sky … shit news from a shit company

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  10. 14
    Village Idiot says:

    ……News of the day to deliberately deflect and wind up the electorate!
    Our political elite are in a Serbonian Bog of their own making!!!(red worm attack)

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  11. 16
    Anonymous says:

    I am against the pay rises, but I do not agree with the change to the “resettlement payments”

    It is hard enough to get MP to do anything, but if they are distracted from their work, and are continuously looking to their next career, it will just make it worse.

    It is stupid not to give them a year or so gap after office for them to sort out a future.

    Keep the pay low and keep them focused on the job.

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  12. 17
    keith says:

    Their pension should be half final benefit and half defined contribution. They would soon worry about the effect on annuity rates by QE which has hammered savers and pensioners.

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    • 22
      Quiet Bat Person says:

      “a new pension on a par with those in other parts of the public service, saving the taxpayer millions”

      Says it all really. Public sector pensions are incredibly generous when compared to those of the private sector (and ultimately are paid for by the private sector).

      Yet the Troughers in the Commons had something even more priviliged than that. Their sense of entitlement makes me sick.

      MPs should have contributory pensions, without inflation-indexing. just like the people who actually work to pay their sodding pensions

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      • 39
        Anonymous says:

        “in other parts of the public service”

        That does not mean the average. That means in some select parts.

        Public sector pensions are terrible due to the pay they are calculated off. It is only the top 3 levels that have the stupid pay.

        The problem is that they compare the top Public sector positions with private industry. Yet there is no elected group in charge in the private sector. There is no safety net or any means to by “shareholders” to remove these top public sector people.

        If you fixed the problem with these salaries then the MPs would not be asking for more.

        Yet another symptom being addressed.

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        • 51
          Don't give a shit about LiBore, UKRAP or the Limp Dumbs says:

          Yep – I heard that union numpty John Baldwin arguing that selling off the Post Office is uneccessary because it now (after Darwin knows how long) is making over £400m p.a.

          Two words, you weasel wroded cnut – “pension… deficit”

          £6bn and counting – another Bliar/ Brownian black hole in the public balance sheet.

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    • 25
      Greenpeace didn't say that says:

      We have come to the conclusion that we can no longer ignore the elephant in the room.
      To cut Britain’s carbon emissions by 2020 we will need to bring net migration down to zero.

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      • 32
        Stay asleep comrade, you can always have beautiful dreams that way says:

        Net migration of zero is a zero reduction, even if you believed in the CO2 fraud. Reduction would require reduction, though of course that would only mean a UK reduction, not a global one.

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    • 40
      zap says:

      I don’t suppose the plod will use their tasers on them.

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  14. 19
    Anonymous says:

    Britain is about to go bankrupt due to exponentially rising debt. The last people deserving a pay rise, or even a salary at all in the circumstances, are those who put themsleves forward as guardians of our true interest. May they all rot in hell.
    Tony

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  15. 23

    Kirkup is right.

    The number of people who want to be MPs far exceeds the number of jobs as MPs. Market forces says pay them less.

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    • 30
      Mad says:

      Artists, writers,actors and musicians.Footballers, tennis players and golfers.
      There are millions of people who do these things for the pleasure of it.
      Why do we pay so much to the professionals?
      Mad.

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      • 33

        No one holds a gun to the heads of those who pay.

        It’s called choice.

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        • 43
          Mad says:

          The TV poll tax is sort of like a gun to my head.

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          • That is not choice. Agreed.

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          • LEFT WING, RIGHT WING, It's all a turkey! says:

            yes it is a choice!

            Look on youtub at all the people CHOOSING not to pay ;)

            Even the polic(e)ymen accompanying the TV license inspectors, end up escorting them away from homeowners premises because they have NO right of access!!

            DON’T PAY THE TELLY TAX IT’S NOT NECESSARY

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      • 37
        Stay asleep comrade, you can always have beautiful dreams that way says:

        Most sport, particularly football, is part of a huge money laundering and tax evasion operation, on behalf of Oligarch’s and Mafia interest’s.

        As for MP’s, put their jobs out for competitive open tender, then you will see exactly what they are worth.

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        • 55

          I admit to one mistake in Kirkup’s view and, thereby, my repetition of it.

          To be an MP should be a vocation, not a job. Competitive open tender is not suitable if the ideal of democracy is to stand.

          Personally, I would use the jury system. You, you and you, drawn from lots; go and run the government for two years. We will pay whatever you were earning before. If you were a teacher, then you get teacher’s pay. If you were unemployed, you get benefit pay. If you were earning a million, the state will pay you a million.

          They have no choice. They do it and, at the end, they are out. The lobby system would be blown apart. Parties can go hang. Unite can return their ill-gotten gains to the members that they confiscated it from.

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  16. 26
    A Sardine says:

    The pay rise is not going to attract better people for the job.

    Biggest objection is that these are meant to be austere times, and the economy is shit.

    Perhaps get an 11% payrise when there has been 11% sustained growth ?

    Cut expenses and the other stuff: That would be austerity.

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  17. 27
    Anonymous says:

    Bastards

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  18. 34
    Anonymous says:

    introduce boundary changes and reduce number of MPs

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    • 50
      q says:

      can’t we just introduce personnel changes and start with cameron and work down?
      that would be fun

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  19. 36
    Penfold says:

    Why a redundancy package?

    The people vote they walk, why be rewarded for being kicked out.

    Being an MP shouldn’t be a career…………Politics shouldn’t be treated as a career path.

    It is a result of politics being treated as a career path that we have the disconnect between voters and Town Halls and Westminster !!

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  20. 44
    Anonymous says:

    What is missing at the moment is private sector pay increases. The country can not have proper inflation until the wages go up.

    How can we devalue the pound, and the debts, without inflation?

    So we are being led. It is now the expectation that pay will increase.

    The inflation must be kept at a reasonably high constant level. But with consumer demand down, they are failing to make the devaluation happen.

    This is the race to the bottom. Last one there wins.

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    • 56
      Anonymous says:

      Actually I’d prefer to pay less for things than have things constantly getting more expensive.

      Or is your post a particularly good troll?

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      • 57
        Anonymous says:

        Quick everyone, I’ve spotted a debt free person. Gather round.

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        • 65
          Anonymous says:

          Yes indeed, for all the good it’s done me. Work hard, pay off all debts, save up – that’s what I was lead to believe was the thing to do.

          Bugger all good it’s done me as I still can’t afford property where I am even though I’m well into the 40% tax bracket with £50k in the bank.

          Fuck inflation.

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  21. 53
    Paniagua v5 says:

    I am very interested to find out if HMRC currently class all the free meals etc that the parasites trough as a ‘benefit in kind’ and tax them accordingly?

    In the real world ‘perks’ are taxed as if they are income.

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  22. 54
    HenryV says:

    I never understood their pension entitlement. As for pay I would pay them 3 times the average national average wage the day the election was called. And I would put an additional 1 x average national wage into a holding account as it were for each year they are in office. It would be paid out to them if they don’t get elected next time or if they stand down at that the next election. That way a normal person could enter Parliament knowing that they would have some money coming in if they didn’t get in next time. They aren’t off down the JobCentre on JSA. Payments would end if they got a job so no £200 per hour barristers getting a nice chunk of the tax payers for nowt. I would also wave things like tuition fees if they wanted to go uni or other training. That way a 30 something could leave their job. Get elected. Serve 5 years. Stand down and have a good foundation to start off on on their life post Parliament.

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  23. 60
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    So if they get this one off payrise and then link in automatic inflation linked annual rises thereafter what do you think will happen?

    It is hardly rocket science any of this .

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  24. 62
    Ministry of Magick says:

    Is it, in real terms, a pay rise? With all this QE and more to come, are they not just ensuring that their pay retains its value? Quantitative reasoning? Pay more, pay less of them.

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  25. 67
    It would never happen in Westminster! says:

    Irish Government MP (male) pulls another Irish Government MP (female) onto his lap during an all-night sitting.

    At 16 seconds, look directly above the “y” in “pregnancy”….

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  26. 71
    les says:

    That’s not too much IMO – how much does Paxman or Liniker etc get ? just for sitting on their arse waffling. Paid for by the public.

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