June 26th, 2013

Ed Ballses Up Brillo Interview

Under pressure from Brillo earlier, Balls coughed that he believed “the cuts are deeper than they need to be” for the spending review. Meanwhile spinners were pushing the line that Labour will stick to spending cuts if elected in 2015. Which was even on the rather unfortunate ticker scrolling along the bottom of the screen while Balls was speaking. So these cuts are too deep but Labour will stick to them, eh?

Here is the video:


221 Comments

  1. 1
    Tom says:

    He’s such a tosser

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    • 5
      Peter Grimes says:

      Talking bollocks out of his arse, just like always.

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      • 11
        Cilla B'lack says:

        The only surprise here is that Guido seems surprised by this classic load of Balls

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        • 37
          political bollocks says:

          Isn’t the governments economic policy spending whatever was shaped by the Treasury before 2010 election. Osbourne is using balls/brown/darling/milliband economics post 2007. He has no option. balls/brown/darling/milliband economics started post 2001 following clarkes.

          Want to limit a bust limit your boom.

          Still don’t understand how an economic journalist can’t still ask balls/milliband
          Why did RBS lens £50 for every £1 on deposit. In 1974 it was 10 to 1 ratio.
          Why did brown overspend at the peak of tax collecting years
          Why aren’t their lots of new factory units to employ future generations.
          Why allow the housing boom.
          Why……

          Other than is good to get us re-elected what about the downside.

          The only difference if balls/milliband were in office is the liberal left and the unions would shut up.

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    • 16
      what a plonker. says:

      Gods gift to the Tories.

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      • 27
        Bollocks to getting a pseudonym says:

        Whenever Liebore provide the Tories with an open goal, you can rely on Camoron to hoof it way over the bar.

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      • 153
        Who votes for these pillocks says:

        Slot Gob Gove being interviewed by Paxo.

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        • 175
          The White Glove Company. says:

          .
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          the world is white glove mad.
          purity is noble.
          hence nobility wins.
          .
          who teaches the legal profession not to shake the hands of its clients?
          ……..all the world is in the hand………
          ……..and it moves at the flicks……….

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    • 167
      spiv says:

      #dodgy

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    • 187
      left wing, right wing, it's all a Turkey! says:

      So full of sh1t …….
      It’s coming out of his mouth!

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  2. 2
    Stolen innocence 2012 of United Wheeldom says:

    Reblogged this on stoleninnocence2012's Blog.

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    • 20
      Anonymous says:

      You don’t need to keep telling us that you’ve reblogged this. It’s safe to assume that you reblog everything.

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  3. 3
    Mickie Most says:

    Arse… Elbow… Balls

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    • 30
      Banshee Bitch says:

      Balls, Sharapova and Azarenko all slip up. No more Banshee screeching. This Wimbledon I won’t wear out the mute button.

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  4. 4
    Les says:

    Nooo He aspires to be a tosser! He hasn’t reached those dizzy heights yet! :)

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  5. 6
    realism please says:

    public spending is going up not down…

    cuts what cuts?

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  6. 7
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    How on earth can anybody with anything more than a modicum of intelligence contemplate voting for a party in which this party this idiot is in such a lofty position ?

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  7. 8
    Anonymous says:

    Please tell me what cuts?
    We are still not cutting spending to live within our means. We are spending more than Gordon Brown

    Any way who is in charge of the budget that oversees the palace of westminster? What salary cuts will there be to MPs? What expenses will they no longer be able to claim? Will the subsidies paid for their beer and food be ended?
    Will they be forced to work a six day week?
    How many MPs will be cut?
    How many councillors will be cut?
    In redbridge we have 63 councillors, do we need them, I think not. London should be run in its entirety by city hall. The politicians are so corrupt, worse than ever, they only think of themselves, period. For fu c k sake we don’t need them all any more. But the plebs can suffer while the corrupt political elite just carry on taking other peoples money. Thus it ever was and will continue to be so.

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    • 17
      Old Blind Pugh says:

      “Who is in charge ” Gideon
      “salary cuts will there be to MPs” don’t be silly of course not
      “What expenses ” will be increased
      “subsidies paid for their beer and food be ended” definitely not
      “6 day week” that’s for the plebs
      Cut don’t be silly
      Councillors reduced not on your life
      When things they go into committee clear the chamber

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    • 25
      Geoffrey Brooking says:

      So right.

      If they can have one Council for Cornwall and Wiltshire what’s wrong with London and Lincolnshire?

      Even in Essex the food bill is on Joe Public.

      And I heard a rumour that at a recent County Council Meeting in Lincolnshire the Leader’s Dog, Boris, even got his nose in the trough :)

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  8. 9
    Old Blind Pugh says:

    ” So these cuts are too deep but Labour will stick to them, eh?” Well they will not be able to instantly do anything unless Gideon’s calculations are his normal standard, didn’t he say that the Cons would have sorted everything out by 2015, that day has been put further and further back

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  9. 10
    Sit Petra says:

    Tonto say fat man speak with forked tongue!.

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    • 42
      Tommy Hawk says:

      Tommy Hawk say, you’re gonna be minus a scalp in about two minutes if you’re gonna keep up that “Unhhh”-Native shit, kimosabe. And this ain’t the firewater talkin’, either.

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  10. 12
    Terry says:

    How can our politicians be so stupid why do we vote for these morons?

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  11. 13
    Gok Wan says:

    I am not too sure about the pink tie.

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  12. 14
    Bazinga! says:

    The BBC don’t get irony do they?

    Julia Gillard gets beaten by her old foe and the BBC make out it’s all to do with sexism, yet the BBC also admit her party are looking at a good kicking in the polls.

    The BBC then spout the line that it was all nasty stuff thrown at Gillard (showing shots of ‘witch posters’) yet the BBC was one of the biggest peddlers of hate at Margaret Thatcher oh and Sarah Palin of course.

    Of course in the past Ruud was the darling of the BBC which him being a lefty eco loon.

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    • 24
      Sit Petra says:

      Anybody that can knit a Kangaroo for her granddaughter can’t be all bad.

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    • 28
      Peter Martin says:

      ‘The BBC don’t get irony do they?’

      No.

      But they don’t have to.

      What they do get they get no matter what, and if anyone asks any questions, Chris Patten will send the boys from BIJ/Newsnight round, if you know what he means.

      That’s how you get to be so trusted.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-editors-23032145

      “Whatever media platform audiences use to access BBC news, what they will find is accurate, impartial, trustworthy journalism. “

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      • 32
        Bazinga! says:

        The BBC is about as reliable as a Cameron cast iron promise

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      • 35
        Sit Petra says:

        Current track record setting aside their PR spin suggests in-accurate, partial, untrustworthy and not even journalism, just populist pap!.

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      • 218
        Rufus Stone says:

        What will the Beebs’ position be when Gordhelpus Brown “does a Rudd” & tries to depose Millitwat?

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    • 90
      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Ecoloons says:

      The Wizard of Oz (Tony Abbott) and his supporters should be singing “Ding dong the aussie witch is dead” :-)

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    • 98
      Missing Tabloid Headline says:

      Gillard gets a Ruudy good spanking

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  13. 15
    NomdePlumb says:

    Arse Aware

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  14. 18
    George Osborne says:

    I’m going to squeeze the poor until the pips squeak.

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  15. 19
    Geoffrey Brooking says:

    Its as if he wants to be a Pianist for a living.

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  16. 22
    Terry says:

    Our politicians are such tossers, I don’t know why we vote for any of them.I cannot believe they believe what they say.

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  17. 23
    jj139 says:

    Well the biggest beneficiaries of ‘welfare’ are the likes of the Windsors, the rescued banks, the heavily subsidised private rail companies, big landowners and all the companies that pay less than the living wage and expect their employees to make up their wages with tax credits, landlords who charge such high rents that their tenants get housing benefit that goes straight to them, why should Labour be labelled the Welfare Party as I can’t imagine many of the above vote for them.

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  18. 26
    Bluestone says:

    People with no money for a week might need a ‘short-term loan’ to tide them over.

    Wonga need a return on their investment in the Tory party, after all. Those ‘donations’ weren’t charity.

    Forcing no income for a week won’t even save that much, but it’s really about driving a wedge between unemployment and social security payments. And they’ll be hammering that wedge in from now on

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    • 31
      Geoffrey Brooking says:

      The only way is the Ukip Way.

      Get out of the E.U.

      End all Foreign Aid until we return to credit.

      Ban all foreigners from claiming benefits completely.

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    • 40
      WarRocketAjax says:

      You already have to wait a fortnight before receiving any JSA once you’ve made your claim as it’s paid in arrears and now this cock nosed prick who’s never known a minute of hardship in his life wants people to spend another week with no way to feed themselves?

      I wonder if Wonga giving half a million quid to the Tory Party has anything to do with this latest kicking of the poorest in this country.

      Fucking despicable

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  19. 29
    Anonymous says:

    “I think the British people have a strong sense of what is fair” – George Osborne

    Possibly, but this obviously hasn’t rubbed off on him.

    “I would say I have taken substantive action to make things easier for people”.

    Easier to what? Starve?

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  20. 33
    Anonymous says:

    Actually Gideon/Jeff, Britain is moving from intensive care into the morgue.

    You cannot have millions of people receiving pay cuts, and going from secure jobs to insecure ones and expect any sort of recovery.

    Where will the spending money come from to get the economy moving? Thin air? Or more new exotic financial products created by the only part of the economy you haven’t touched?

    The 1930’s depression is meant to be a lesson from history. You seem to think it is a policy aim.

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  21. 36
    Tachybaptus says:

    Did you notice Gideon quietly mentioning that the DWP would have to make ‘efficiency savings’ and some ‘expensive schemes’ would be scrapped?

    I wondered at the time if that was a hint at Universal Credit being dumped, it’s the usual way they sneak these things out to the public hoping nobody will notice

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  22. 38
    Essex says:

    “From the autumn of 2015, we will link the winter fuel payment to a temperature test. People in hot countries will no longer get it. It is, after all, a payment for winter fuel.

    The way this will work is that people in countries with higher average winter temperatures than the UK won’t get the allowance.”

    There’s a big flaw in that argument: For example, the average winter temperature in Spain is higher than the average winter temperature in the UK, but there are parts of Spain where the average winter temperature is lower than the average winter temperature in London. I don’t have the time to look up all the numbers but I’m pretty sure that would apply to France as well, for example.

    Is this the pasty tax part 2?

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    • 43
      Sit Petra says:

      It can bet a bit chilly in the Pyrenees mountains so I’ve heard, oops back to the drawing board again.

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    • 55
      Save Money on Pointless Administration says:

      Frankly, nobody should get a winter fuel payment. Pensions should be adequate enough for one not to be needed and the administrators of this silly benefit should be dispensed with.

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    • 62
      Dave should resign now says:

      It wouldn’t work in countries in Europe.

      If government tried this on, someone would bring a discrimination case before the ECJ and the UK government would have to foot the bill for that, lose, and then maybe payout more, and to the rest of Spain to boot.

      It is a total bollocks statement to make for many reasons.

      Given the climate change debacle you wouldn’t be able to trust the figures anyway. But running such a scheme could help get failed climate scientists into a new job.

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  23. 39
    Sarcan Kebab III says:

    The mask has slipped. Labour haven’t got a clue.

    Balls drove Britain into this mess as Brown’s closest henchman.

    You can’t trust Ed Balls to tell the time correctly.

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  24. 41
    bojo's cock says:

    I used to be the next big thing

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  25. 44
    Anonymous says:

    Maybe it is time to make it a requirement for ministers who hold specific positions in government to have some experience in the sector. George Osborne has never even sold a glass of lemonade in his front yard and yet he is in charge of the countries finances? And don’t get me started on Jeremy Munt.

    Is there any other sector that hires people with no experience to fill the top positions?

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  26. 46
    SPT777 says:

    Let me get this right. I left school in 1974, during that time I’ve been fortunate to have been unemployed for a total of only 8 months.

    During that time I have paid thousands in National Insurance & now Gidiot is telling me that if I am unfortunate enough to lose my job I won’t get anything for the first week.

    Will somebody please explain to the obnoxious little turd the definition of ‘insurance’?

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  27. 48
    Anne Selby says:

    So this means that Osborne and his fellow MPs will do without their proposed pay rise of £20,000 a year?

    I’m guessing not. There is no way in the world that these people will understand the level of suffering they are putting the other citizens of this country through and that’s because they are not suffering and while they get their huge salary, their pay rises, their subsidised bars, their 2nd Home allowance, their £400 per month food allowance and not even touching whatever capital any of them have in the bank (and the majority of them are millionaires), they don’t have to suffer. It’s very easy to put others in the position where they are begging for food if you have a full belly.

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  28. 49

    Smart may have the brains but stupid has the Balls.

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    • 54
      Point of Information says:

      The gift of the smart is that they can fool everyone to think they are stupid.

      He’s playing a game here, but appears to have, ahem, fumbled the ball.

      Top marks earlier for getting a full Rainbow reference on the record. Not sure who Zippy, but we all know George, and unfortunately Ed has proven that he is Bungle. Dave is a very credible Jeffrey.

      Boomerang spin at the dispatch box: The new Labour strategy.

      Now once upon a time, more enlightened pundits would have torn him to shreds. Let’s see what Brillo / Paxo and the other ‘luminaries’ fail to do.

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      • 75

        We are in the era of the spaceship* whilst our parliamentary systems can barely cope with the era of the horse.

        * with all the attendant communications benefits that entails.

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        • 85
          Point of Information says:

          Well it would be fair to point out that seeing as daily they can snoop on 600m+ emails, yet can’t seem to get a simple BBC interview right then perhaps they are either incompetent or just playing around.

          Would suspect it is the latter.

          Just sayin’

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          • My Conan-Doyle Inspector Lestrade point leaps at you here.

            Arthur Ignatius was a genius.

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          • Point of Information says:

            With the utmost respect, it came bounding in with my slippers and newspaper in it’s mouth and the biggest moo eyes I have ever seen.

            I placed my violin down and inspected the slippers carefully, as only minutes before they had been on my feet.

            Then I noticed that the newspaper was not local, but from Utah.

            Stroking the ears of the point, which yawned before curling in front of the fireplace for a snooze, I realized that this was to be a most interesting case.

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          • Don’t ever recall biggest moo eyes but, that apart, a splendid effort! :-)

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          • Schrödinger's rat says:

            Yeah, like he needs your approval you patronising cuпt.

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          • and Badger says:

            Mashed potato.

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          • When has the issue of approval, or not, ever mattered here. If it had, you would have been banned long ago. Oh! You were, weren’t you?

            Pity. You used to be quite funny, even spectacularly so, but are now just screwed up.

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    • 65
      Ron White, world-class consumer of Scotch, says:

      “There’s not a pill you can take— there’s not a class you can go to…”

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  29. 51
    Mong Watch says:

    Ed Balls and Labour are trying to play the old Good Cop – Bad Cop populist routine by the look of it. Keep the electorate confused as to what their position is.

    Both he and Gideon are following the latest Bilderburg script: Their credibility is quite low.

    Now Ed is trying to take opposite positions simultaneously, see which one gets consensus and go with it in the poles.

    A developing majority consensus is not being taken in by this b/s though.

    This would work with a slightly more happy electorate, but when your departure from party line is highlighted in real time by the BBC ticker… FFS…

    Balls is doing his part to help get UKIP in by the look of it.

    Lasagne is probably in the dog tonight, isn’t it Yvette ?

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  30. 52
    All change, no change bog off says:

    I see all the MPs and Lords took a paycut to help out the poor taxpayers, NOT, so everybody else takes a hit and our beloved rulers and the EU and the rest of the world we pay for take a holiday at our expense, no change then.

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  31. 53
    Former Tory Voter says:

    If the magic private sector has created 3 jobs for every one lost in the public sector why has productivity in this country plummeted?

    Surely if all the ‘non jobs’ in the public sector the Tories like to blather on about are going and being replaced by super duper private sector ones the precise opposite should be happening.

    Could it be these jobs aren’t even non jobs but in fact for the most part not even real jobs at all?

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    • 57
      Point of Information says:

      No mention was made of which industry the jobs were created in.

      In the private sector there are some truly private sectors.

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    • 61
      move along please, masters of the universe want to get on. says:

      Seems to me the only private sector jobs that are doing well are the ones that have contracts with the government, the manufactures have all buggered off to China, it’s the only place to make money.

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      • 117
        Wun Hung Low (Peopls Economic Co-ordinator) says:

        You gaujo fuckers are too busy indulging eco-wankers; we just shoot the commie bastards.

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  32. 59
    Jimmy says:

    It’s class war and and the fuckers mean to keep fucking us hard, while they can.

    No money for the poor, the working poor, the unemployed and others on the breadline but a budget increase for the surveillance state? That shows you where their priorities really are.

    Bevan was right – the Tories are scum to a man. And you can add the Lib Dems to that list as well

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    • 63
      Jimmy the Liebour mouthpiece still selling snake oil says:

      But Jimmy whitewashing all those billions Liebour wasted on ID cards and spying on bins and talking lamposts, won’t make it go away that Liebour are just one side of the LibLabCon pact who are determined to destroy the country.

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    • 68
      Advice for Jimmy says:

      Vote UKIP

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    • 79

      Has the funny, interesting, quite intelligent if misguided, Jimmy retired?

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      • 80
        A Sardine says:

        Saw the Jimmy shrimp swimming after the cod towards the UKIP shoal.

        Starting to get crowded over there.

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      • 95
        mong watch says:

        Has the funny ———- Wrong

        interesting———-Wrong

        quite intelligent———Wrong

        misguided———-Right

        Congratulations, one out of four is your best score to date!

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        • 105

          I disagree. We do that sort of thing here.

          Jimmy would be much more fun to go for a beer with than, for example, you.

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          • Schrödinger's rat says:

            Hahahahahahaha, you sad old twat if you really think that.

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          • Not a fan of Jimmy's ideology, but says:

            No – he’s correct. Love or hate his views, Jimmy is a knowledgeable and fair contributor who would be worth chatting with over a pint or two and a bag of scratchings.

            One of the big problems with Labour at the moment is that they are screwing up so badly that it just isn’t possible to have a sensible debate with Jimmy and vice versa.

            Anything Jimmy puts down, even the eminently reasonable stuff, is rendered mong like with people like Balls in the background spanking the monkey so irreverently on the BBC etc.

            The left have got to get rid of a lot of the now ‘old guard’ and start afresh. Socialism lite with clause 4 brought back would be a good start for them.

            Even in Parliament you can see the problems.

            Debate Osborne over the hidden bear traps in welfare reform which will hurt people genuinely in need / deserving ? Or just give him the finger ?

            The latter is not debate, has awarded the opposition victory, and as Labour voters who will now look at UKIP more seriously will realize, the party which is meant to be looking after their interests have just given them the finger as well.

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          • For those without the intellectual firepower, then I can imagine them being inhibited by Jimmy, as he has a quick mind and wit.

            Not mentioning anyone in particular, of course.

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          • Average dude says:

            SC,
            Miaow but you are right.

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          • Unlike some, I am never worried about talking to someone cleverer than I am. There is only the opportunity to learn – and steal! (Only ideas do I steal)

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          • Jimmy says:

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          • Not quite that much…

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    • 109
      RED, RED WHINE says:

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  33. 60
    Labour liars its what we do says:

    Balls = Cnut of 1st order-order

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  34. 66
    Easterman says:

    If you earn a million a year you have had a £44,000 tax windfall this year.

    If you rely upon a home-help, day-centre, or community transport for your quality of life Geoffrey wants you to fuck off and die.

    Tory scum

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    • 70
      Owen Jones says:

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    • 111
      RED, RED WHINE says:

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    • 113
      Labour leftie cockroaches says:

      wish you would fuck off and die. No mention of the billions wasted by Labour then

      Hunt

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    • 125
      Thames Dover Wight says:

      So why was that tax 50%band not put in place during browns first budget in 1997 – in case you cant figure he was so far up the bankers arses

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    • 127
      Piss off Balls. No one listens to you. says:

      Who earns a million a year?
      Not even the DG of the BBC earns that. Can’t be more than 100 people in the whole country.

      But what you really mean is there was a tax cut for people earning over £150,000 a year.

      You claim the very highest extreme number is the median. Is it because you genuinely want to confuse the gullible. Genuinely don’t know how many noughts are in a million or you’re just a Hunt?

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  35. 67
    BMW Dealer, Addis Ababa says:

    Thank you Britain!

    Thank you taxpayers!

    Your aid is very welcome, my clients can now purchase many, many new armoured BMWs.

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    • 138
      old bangers and smash. says:

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      the world has now shifted into “faith” mode….when it is publicly revealed that the electronics in the cars can be controlled remotely.
      .

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  36. 69
    Wally Waver says:

    Ballsy is on the run

    Fire on the ambulances boys

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  37. 73
    Conspiracy Watch says:

    It is worrying when the Z!onist NWO Mongoloids appear to have hedged their bets on Ed Balls.

    Perhaps they realize the game is up and need a straw man to burn whilst they make off with the loot.

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    • 141
      old bangers and smash. says:

      Mother earth calling Mother Earth.
      .
      .
      it is time for a “put”.
      stay put.

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  38. 74
    Stavros says:

    Sometimes you think Ed Balls will say anything if it wins votes. But the biggest vote winner for Labour would be to sack Balls.

    I hope he stays put!

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  39. 77
    Ed Bilderballs says:

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  40. 78
    Anonymous says:

    Please remind me what cuts all politicians will be facing?

    How much was it to have Haigs asp stuffed?

    How much did bercow spend on the speakers apartment, etc etc?

    You politicians have no credibilty what so ever; all you do is line your own pockets at the taxpayers expense. If this is not true, then please tell us what sacrifices you have made since 2010 and what future sacrifices you will be making, listed in the current round of spending cuts? What cuts will apply to local councillors. How many politicians jobs will be cut, both in parliament and in local government?

    I think we already know the answers.

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  41. 82
    Anonymous says:

    This is all a waste of time.

    All out austerity efforts, eg vat rise to 20% etc, have been swallowed up and more, by increased contributions and bail outs to the european union. NO MATTER WHAT OUR DAVE SAYS, HE HAS LOST OUT EACH TIME TO THE EU PARLIAMENT!

    No wonder, although we have increased taxes and cut spending, we are still in debt more now than when brown was in no 10.

    As you know there won’t be any cuts at all to the EU budget!

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  42. 84

    Without knowing what the politics of Sir Tim Berners-Lee are, I support him completely when he attacks governments for seriously spying on the internet.

    It is Obama who is leading it, too.

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    • 86
      White Hat Geek says:

      This all started years back. The first attempt was the Total Information Awareness program which got shot down under Bush. It was only shot down as it was to be run by DoD / US Army, and the tech was not quite good enough.

      NSA did not want DoD treading on their turf.

      Obama isn’t really leading it. If he tried to do anything about it he would probably wind up dead, or all the secrets he doesn’t want in the public domain may start showing up in the media.

      Berners Lee is a scientist who has been at CERN for a while.

      I would peg him as publicly funded center left, with Libertarian leanings.

      If he was any good at writing fiction he would probably be a somewhere between Orwell and Phillip K Dick.

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      • 88

        Whilst I can accept the broad thrust of what you posit, there can be no doubt that Obama’s approach has been enthusiastic rather than reluctant.

        Anyone who runs for POTUS should be prepared to be assassinated for it without compromising their beliefs. Otherwise, don’t stand.

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        • 97
          White Hat Geek says:

          And there is the nub of the point.

          Did Obama ever actually stand opposed to Bush ?

          His politics were a whole lot more radical and much less Liberal / Libertarian.

          If the truth is fully outed, Obama likely did not know all the details or the extent. The US secret service, in particular the NSA, operates in an odd grey area which is segregated from the executive / presidential office at many levels.

          This is important so as POTUS can maintain plausible deniability when they screw up abroad. The secret service is not meant to be considering itself above the constitution though.

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          • But in actuality…

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          • White Hat Geek says:

            In actuality I don’t think he led it.

            He didn’t do anything to stop it, and isn’t saying much against it.

            He is dealing with the fallout now, and has probably been on a sharp learning curve which may have eaten into his Oval office hoop time.

            What they are hoping for is that people still see this as an infringement of privacy and civil liberties, rather than global scale industrial espionage.

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          • White Hat Geek says:

            It is tricky to follow that money as most of it doesn’t appear on government books. It does appear in shady offshore centers though.

            The bigger issue is that of the pensions and retirement entitlements.

            There is competition between the CIA / NSA – but many in both now have realized that they are screwed in the future on the pension front. (They have the information after all and know how to analyze it).

            Now, with that known, a suggestion that some would become rogue and perhaps seek to increase their hold on power through acquiring and concentrating more information is credible.

            Snowden’s real personal motivation may well have been partly this. Which could explain why he tried to bail to Ch!na, a country which is expected to continue growing for the foreseeable future.

            Spreading dis-information to discredit in the eyes of the paymasters the competition to secure more funding does appear to go on. That was first evident with 9-11.

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          • @WHG

            Surely it is both an infringement of privacy and civil liberties and global scale industrial espionage. It is government way out of control.

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          • In the main the only money they follow is the honest stuff and the petty criminal stuff. The big stuff goes through like a coach and horses.

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          • White Hat Geek says:

            Check back on this Guardian article:

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-informant-global-datamining#

            The map is important.

            The hot spots for surveillance, outside the US and middle east, just happen to be mainly !ndia and Ch!na : Now there could be some security issues there, but there is an awful lot more industrial stuff worth picking up.

            This is not new for the US, or generally. The Ch!nese have state sponsored industrial and regular espionage going on all the time. The leaks from B A E a few years back one example. Clean desk policies in office buildings are another reaction to this existential problem. (Not specifically Ch!nese, but mainly low paid foreign staff, any of whom could be working for another agency or company…)

            One example which always stood out for me was the Hovercraft.

            Check the interesting history of that otherwise awesome British invention :-)

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          • Was well acquainted with the hovercraft and travelled to France, Isle of Wight and went on a private one.

            The industrial espionage is taken as a given and goes each way. Given the recent and many failings over data, I do not trust the NSA’s word or even the map in the slightest. It will all come out, it always does.

            Many on here treated this with disdain as it was the Graun. I think they make a dangerous mistake.

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      Build Nuremburg. says:

      .
      .
      should they spy off the net?
      in reality, it is all about jobs.

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      • 140
        White Hat Geek says:

        Indeed it is about the jobs.

        What career options are there for disgruntled ex NSA operatives ?

        – Mercenary work, at home and abroad. Some is useful, but only if they are working for you, and not so much at home.
        – Go in to politics – like Putin did. The US political class do not really want new competition.
        – Work in Walmart ? No way.
        – Form a patriotic cell network to attack the state domestically creating the conditions which would cause the public to demand that you get your old job back ? 9-11 is argued to be an example of that.

        Trapping these guys in windowless rooms to go through intercepts 24 x 7 is a good way to keep them off the streets and quiet.

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          Until their long repressed egos finally burst and they decide to go out on a shooting spree?

          Conveniently, they can then be categorised as loners who spent all their time in a virtual world and there will be no one around who can say Hang on a minute, he was working for the NSA, wasn’t he?

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  43. 93
    God Help Us All says:

    How can ANYBODY with an ounce of intelligence vote for a fucking idiot like this?.
    And why is his wife always referred to as Yvette ‘COOPER’?.
    Is it because even SHE doesn’t want to be associated with the fucking idiot?.

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  44. 99
    Huree Jamset Sing says:

    He ballsed it up, now bring back Lance Corporal Darling.

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  45. 100
    Nigel Evans boyfriend says:

    Any one got any spare KY. My bond portfolio is getting reamed

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  46. 102
    poacher says:

    nevermind that the government are killing disabled people lets have a go a fuckface balls

    in more serious news

    due to injuries the wimbledon final this year will be between andy murray and serena williams – odds are that williams will win

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    • 115
      Labour leftie cockroaches says:

      name somewhere where Tories killed more than fucking Labour. Cant be done

      tit

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    • 129
      tourmaline says:

      North Staffs Hospital and on and on…

      Plus the Iraq War…..

      Labour would take some keeping up with when it comes to killing folks off!!

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  47. 108
    Offa`s Dyke says:

    So, a “budget” for the years after the next election is considered more relevant than the present, impoverishment of the punters spending power will do nothing to aid recovery. The top get richer and the rest can go F@&* themselves. Gideon needs a refresh and Balls the sack. Nigel..its all yours.

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  48. 120
    The Pork Sword of Justice says:

    Saw Marc Rich died today.

    I don’t really subscribe to the international four by two conspiracy theories but cnuts like him make you wonder.

    The presidential pardon from Clinton at the behest of Rich’s ex-wife confirms how corrupt Slick Willie was (and probably is) and makes you wonder whether she had been honking the bobo in the Oval Office just like Lewinsky

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    • 124
      Confused Reader says:

      For a minute there I thought we were going to be out of Monday morning cryptic cartoons.

      Not sure which is the sadder news…

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      • 216
        JH349324890234023 says:

        Rich & Mark die every Monday morning.

        You should see their web site. Never have two adult males needed to grow the fuck up and get proper jobs more.

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    • 165
      Lloyd Blankfein says:

      LOL

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  49. 122
    Kevin Rudd says:

    Word of advice poms.

    Some Sheila’s can be nice eye tucker, sure. But don’t let them into politics. They only four-X everything up.

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  50. 128
    tourmaline says:

    OK so georgie porgie is incr easing spen ding by £76billion and bullyballs says he’s cutting’ too far too fast’ and then out of the ot her si de of his mo uth he says he’d sti ck to that bu dget if we’re idi ot enough to elect him.

    And then of course last Saturday bullyballs said he’d be borrowing and taxing more so that he can spend on creating more public non jobs, and more hospitals and schools. That’ll be more P F I hospitals like the Pete rboro ugh one, created by gordon will it? that’s los ing £40million a year, employing more penpushers than Dr’s and Nurses – where the staff are on record as saying they’d be fine if the patients would just leave them alone!

    Caring labour and all that!!!

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  51. 139
    I don't need no doctor says:

    With such a pair of idiots as Miliband and Balls, labour cannot be serious about winning the 2015 election.

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  52. 142
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Resign Burnham and Johnson.

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  53. 146
    Saffron says:

    Ballsup could’nt run the economics of a feckin whelk stall let alone a country.
    His response to Gideon today was frankly dire in his understanding of economics,it was all blather with no substance.
    Does anyone today have any inkling as to what Liebour stand for other than their so far blank piece of paper,I suspect not.
    Now to the cobbled together so called coalition who frankly are another accident not waiting to happen but which continually keeps happening.
    IMHO this country needs to wake up and smell the coffee and to realise that people should not fear their politico’s,it should be that politico’s fear the people who can make or break them.
    To all who read these blogs on this site it is your choice as to which way this country goes,next time round please choose wisely not on tradition but on hard facts on whatever issues.

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    • 206
      Common sense says:

      Yup agreed but the twats will still vote either for Dog shit with a red rosette pinned on it or UKIPS Farages offshore bank account and let the dogs shit onto the No10 carpet through the back door.

      Jeeeez we only just vaxed Brown and Blair off the carpet.

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  54. 147
    Benny Fitz-Clements says:

    Oh, FFS !!

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  55. 148
    Hoots! It's Clown says:

    Go on Andy!

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  56. 149
    Bob Fleming says:

    The tone of Newsnight’s coverage of the spending review tells you that Osbourne has got it broadly right.. the sneering is on an industrial scale even by Newsnight’s standard

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  57. 157
    Bazinga! says:

    Paxmong just gave away his own political view.

    “No one wants to cut public spending”

    Only a lefty would say that. The state should never take a single penny more than it needs to cover basic services.

    Only in the world of the mad left do they think an ever increasing state is a great idea.

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    • 189
      The BBC the last bastion of privilege says:

      The BBC are in confusion…their beloved Labour Party is actually going to carry on with Tory cuts if elected….perhaps they can start with the licence fee

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      • 203
        Ed Bollox says:

        To fast to deep but maybe just a little more faster and deeper for a year or so as the BBC ticker said so.

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  58. 158
    Fuck the LibLabCon says:

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    • 159
      MI5/NSA says:

      We know where you live.

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    • 161
      Bob Fleming says:

      This guy Rattansi is a whacko nutjob by any measure but he’s right to flag up the increase in spending on the UK security services against the back drop of cuts most everywhere else. Make no mistake this is one of the many not so hidden costs of mass immigration, specifically Allah’s own idiots

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  59. 166
    Alan Cholmondely Partridge says:

    Ahahahahahahhahahahhahahaha

    Wanker!

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  60. 171
    Public Health says:

    What are we going to do shortly, when thousands of Muslims travel to Saudi Arabia for Pilgrimage, and return following exposure to the mysterious new chest virus currently doing the rounds in Saudi, Novel Coronavirus, which has killed 30 out of 60 affected. What are NHS and Public Health going to do?

    Quarantine?

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    • 179
      Cabin Crew says:

      Don’t let them back on the plane

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    • 180
      albacore says:

      Stand back and consider that our Parliament
      For decades now at its very core has spent
      That time undermining the British nation
      Via the E U and mass immigration
      And, overall, policies that make no sense
      Except in putting “British” in the past tense
      Don’t believe me, only your own brain and eyes
      When you see folks dying from LibLabCon lies

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    • 183

      50 per cent death rate, eh? That sounds useful. We really need to get the population down to a manageable level. AIDS, SARS and all those things haven’t worked well at all. The last good plague was the Black Death, and even that only killed a third of the population.

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        Andy Burnham reporting from Stafford and lots of other NHS places says:

        Fuck me.. How do you achieve such a good rate as 50 %

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  61. 172
    Jimmy says:

    “So these cuts are too deep but Labour will stick to them, eh?”

    If we could make the words any shorter for you we would.

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    • 176

      If Labour think they are too deep and they were miraculously to win the election then why would they be sticking to them?

      One of the big ideas of politics is to win elections and implement one’s policies. Or have I missed something?

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      • 182
        Tachybaptus says:

        Yes. The big idea in politics is to make large promises and, when elected, abandon them and follow your existing prejudices.

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        • 186

          Lining one’s pockets and setting oneself up for lucrative consultancy and lobby work where one can sell one’s privileged know-how and know-who is probably the primary objective for the majority of them.

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      • 184
        Jimmy says:

        Because the revenue would not have been budgeted. Any incoming government has to start from the baseline it inherits. That is by no means an endorsement of the outgoing government. All things being equal a Labour Goverment will be more expansionist than he alternative. Beyond that specific pledges are unrealistic. Who knows what further damage two more years of gideonomics will do?

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        • 213
          Point of Information says:

          Two more years of Gideon-omics will not paper over the growing cracks.

          All he cares about is getting the asset price bubble in housing restarted.

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    CLUELESS CAMERON and his gang of PUBLIC SCHOOL OIK'S says:

    I have protected Britain’s military capability by axing 58,000 service personnel , and scrapping most of their equipment

    What ho !

    “I love the smell of P45’s in the morning”

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    • 178
      The taxpayer says:

      The army, navy and air force do not have a God-given right to sit about on their arses at the nation’s expense. The upper ranks are a bunch of indolent, self-serving drones who have sapped the energy of the energy and given us failure in return. There needs to be a serious clear-out of any over-promoted numskulls who still don’t realise that we just can’t afford them any more.

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      • 181
        Tachybaptus says:

        True enough, but they pale into insignificance when compared to the thousands of useless penpushers at the Ministry of Defence.

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        • 199
          Grubers little tank says:

          Many only sign on for 4 years some for 8 and a few for 12. Don’t believe the BBC bullshit on this. Most leave with an excellent payoff and a trade for life

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    Labour can't count says:

    Balls total lack of numeracy skills ….

    Chancellor
    “The investment is due to begin as soon as 2015 with £50bn spent on capital projects that year.”

    Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls was critical: “There is no point in boasting about infrastructure investment in five or seven years’ time, we need action now”

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  65. 197
    Economics professor says:

    Guido

    For younger co-conspirators, they should understand where Ed Balls and Ed Milliband were educated and by whom.

    Their leading mentor was Larry Summers…

    http://chronicle.com/article/Larry-Summersthe/124790/

    You can see that these totally discredited US academics put us all in the shit, from which we have not yet recovered

    And Balls and Milliband will continue their devastating destruction if not stopped, under the influence of these greedy, inconsistent and dangerous academicsq

    It is all on the record now…

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  66. 198
    Dreaming just dreaming says:

    So we have sufficient shale gas to be energy sufficient for 20 years or more, now and we are getting told the price of gas will drop, who’s kidding who, we are run by a gang of left wing greedy green nutters, who unless get decent back handers won’t allow anything to be done, if the frackers do get to drill and produce, do we all think we will get even a sniff of the gas as we see it shipped off abroad by the companies who own the fracking operation, we’ve been here before with gas and oil that we were all promised would change our lives, which it did by making us even poorer.

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  67. 201

    Eurocrats think the British media are inveterately anti-European. We think Eurocrats are invertebrately supine.

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    • 208
      Bent banana's to you says:

      The British media do what they are told to do by British governments and the EU mafia, a lot of the British people are anti EU not anti-European, the Eurocrats are a piece of unelected power crazy overpaid trash that need a decent lesson in democracy just as British politicians do.

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  68. 205
    Economics for Dummies with Ed and Yvette says:

    Take one taxpayer-funded property, flip it three times = lots of money.

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  69. 211
    didgeriedoodoo says:

    A change is as good as a rest.
    Out of the frying pan into the fire. Poor old Oz. A success story that avoided the worst of the economic downturn,now brought to it’s knees by a few years of misplaced Socialist Utopian dreams.
    Ms Gillard on a par with Gordon Brown, is replaced by glamour boy Rudd, another Socialist clueless wonder. Like the UK, they now have too many dregs of society sucking on the public teat who would vote for a knitted wombat if it wore a red rosette.
    Nothing against competent women in world politics, but after Maggie having set the standard she has not been emulated by any further promoted female stars on the political front. With the 2 Eds failing can you see Cooper, Labour’s only credible candidate doing any better? Or is David Miliband, now on a sabbatical being groomed for a future 2020 return to fill the void.

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  70. 217
    steve smith says:

    Video doesn’t play bloody muppet site

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  71. 220
    Ed Miliband says:

    We’re just saying what we think you want to hear. We don’t actually believe a word of it. Once elected, Twelvety Balls would go straight back to spending money like water.

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  72. 221
    FLETCH says:

    I believe that castration is the process used to get rid of balls.

    Ed says “pass me the scissors Harriet, and I’ll give Jack a special job”

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