April 19th, 2013

Victory: Guido’s Blog Will Remain Unregulated
Government Tells Evan Harris to “Blog Off”

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Dr Evan Harris told all who would listen that he wanted this blog to be regulated, Max Mosley wanted the government to “cut the wires” of the internet for bloggers who didn’t submit to judicial censorship and the nutty Professor Brian Cathcart who mutters about freedom of the press while trying to stamp it out didn’t really engage. Well they have completely and utterly failed in their ambitions.

The government has announced that for-profit blogs which make less than £2 million will be exempt from the new system of press regulation and there would also be an exemption for blogs with fewer than 10 employees under the amendments to the Crime and Courts Bill. Which leaves plenty of room for Guido to expand his operations…

We would not in any event have gone along with a regime that attempted to put an unbearable and unjustified regulatory burden on us. This is not to say that Guido supports the legislation, it seems pretty unfair on small newspapers who will still be regulated and it means there is not a level playing field. There will, as Guido told Leveson, be a thriving unregulated free press and a withering regulated unfree press with one hand tied behind its back. You only have to consider the Rolf Harris story revealed on this blog three months ago and only today seen on the front pages of the newspapers…


259 Comments

  1. 1
    Hugh Grant says:

    This is completely unacceptable.

    I’m going to drive around LA for a while to gather my thoughts.

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    • 259
      Peter Duncan says:

      It is completely unacceptable. It’s OK to regulate some web publishers?

      Bugger you Jack, I’m alright.

      You short sighted gut bucket.

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  2. 2
    Kebab Time says:

    small bloggers not included YET.

    Soon they will, soon they will…….

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      Aless says:

      The point shouldn’t be about protecting small blogs, we shouldn’t have to rely on Guido and underground micro news to get our information. We need a full free press, including large newspapers and TV if we’re going to be freely able to hold government to account

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        WVM says:

        Indeed.

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        • 48
          One who is concerned says:

          Hear Hear

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          • Bloke says:

            Message to HM ‘Government’:

            Fuck off you twats.

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          • perception says:

            It is becoming clear now about this blog and dear Rupert’s organisation “The government has announced that for-profit blogs which make less than £2 million will be exempt from the new system of press regulation and there would also be an exemption for blogs with fewer than 10 employees under the amendments to the Crime and Courts Bill. Which leaves plenty of room for Guido to expand his operations…” not that I think there is anything unusual in business but Rupert did want a presence in the blogging game now he has it without the direct responsibility, cute eh?

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          • Calmdown,Calm down says:

            Emailed threat to burn down Old Holborn’s business and house from:

            David Malcolm Gregory
            46 New Lane,
            Southport
            PR9 8LJ

            http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/r743/Uknown268/deaththreat_zpsa2dc5cfb.jpg

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      • 56
        One-term Dave, dragging the Tories to their grave, says:

        Free Press? No.

        PS: I also want to bug all your phone calls and emails and website visits.

        Toode pip!

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        • 189
          Top hole says:

          Like NOTW tapped phones you mean?

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          • perception says:

            That’s ok because it is NI please get over it, NI does the tapping that is perfectly acceptable but for anyone else it is deplorable

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          Ding. Dong. Ed is Red says:

          That is still a Labour party aim and was proposed during Gordon’s reign of decline. It’s in their DNA.

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          • perception says:

            All electronic communications are monitored and information passed to a foreign country, they just have targets to go for to glean information, so if they decide that they want to monitor this blog every contributor and the comments will be recorded, they would be able to trace where you live or where you write from. Another thought that has crossed my mind is if this initially goes from Geedo’s computer to an NI computer they will have got your number as well.

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      • 112
        Blowing Whistles says:

        The ‘free press’ of the moment only give the ‘impression’ / and squeal ad infinitum about “their” freedom as being sacrosanct but they ain’t and they have not been ‘free’ for decades – It has all been an ‘illusion’ …

        If they had been a free press and ‘were’ & ‘had’ been ‘holding the executive to account’ – How come ‘many’ like this blogger and even the likes of Maurice Kirk AND OTHERS have not had the ‘Public coverage’ SPLASHED ACROSS ALL THEM NATIONAL PAPERS that we deserve for CALLING THE CRIMINALS ATOP THE SYSTEM TO BE HELD ACCOUNT?

        I do love it when the free press ‘corner themselves’ and btw Hacked off, Common Purpose et al the leggers can F Off too.

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      • 174
        Glyn H says:

        Aless: totally agree, the whole Leveson thing should be anathema in an open western culture. However £2m and 10 employees is hopeful. I used to make a good living with 4 employees and £100,000 t/o. Always avoided getting bigger cos unless you then pass 50 and have an HR person HMG or the employment tribunal creeps (3rd rate lawyers, unable to make in in commercial practice or even local authorities) screw you; that and the six times increased in 20 years business rates!!

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      • 241
        NE Frontiersman says:

        So presumably the Guardian, which makes a stonking loss, will be exempt? Is this their Cunning Plan?

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    • 10
      Anonymous says:

      Too right 8illy, ‘They’ don’t like anything they can’t control.

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      • 13
        V1le, vicious Labour ruined my Country says:

        The Socialists must be really unhappy about this, shame!

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        • 20
          Geoglo says:

          Yup! That Socialist Spring aint going to happen. Teehee!

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        • 30
          Ask E says:

          this blog is already a bastion for hypocrites that spout, “Let us say whatever the fuck we want” with one arsehole and, yet, say, “You can’t say THAT or BE that on MY blog, Missus” out of the other.

          confusing, isn’t it?

          at the end of the day, this blog is an ant climbing a dog-turd on the pavement and just about to be squished by a passing Waynetta on her way to Spar K.

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      • 24
        earthi matters says:

        who is they.
        .
        put the middle of the right wrist on navel..and feel the pulse of the soul, that which cannot be destroyed.
        .
        whilst the hand fully supports the stomach in that relaxed position what is the right thumb directed at. the heart where god resides, that which certainli cannot be controlled.
        .
        what creation is in the stomach.

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    • 21
      Harriet Haradian says:

      Quite right Billy. Guido will do as he’s told. If he doesn’t register we’ll make him. That goes for you too.

      I will have my way.

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    • 22
      Sarah says:

      Old Holborn website & Twitter cut off.

      Welcome to East Germany.

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      • 57
        Stasi (england) says:

        It’s the right thing to do.

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      • 59
        One-term Dave, dragging the Tories to their grave, says:

        Spiffing! What what.

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      • 97
        Achtung says:

        Good riddance.. It became a place for the most vile of persons

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      • 106
        New Holborn says:

        sn!gger

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      • 107
        JH32840923840932 says:

        I blame the Police for Hillsborough.

        They should have realised where they were, and anticipated that a cohort of football-obsessed drunken idiots would shoulder barge their way en-masse on to the stands, and continue to do so despite being screamed at to stop by people telling them what was happening as a result of their gross stupidity.

        So yeah, completely the Police’s fault. The fans cannot be allocated any blame. They are, after all, from Liverpool.

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      • 173
        Gordon - with a Broomstick up his arse says:

        This weird jaw movement I do – it’s connected with the movement of the broomstick – and it still gives me a real thrill – and everyone watching!

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    • 103
      Great Granddad says:

      You’re not out of the woods yet, Guido. Just a little more of that Q.E. stuff and any body not making two million will be at the soup kitchen. Back in the early ‘fifties the widow of a U.S. General told a reporter that her husband used to say that “the only thing that the Army couldn’t do to you was to stick an umbrella up you and open it”. The government now has that umbrella and they are coming after you and me and everyone else on this blog. Don’t expect a civilised ‘en garde’ warning before the first thrust of the umbrella. Go well and keep your head down.

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      • 108
        M102 says:

        I don’t think Keb@b T!me’s blog is going to come under these rules any time soon.

        Oh sorry I though it said under ten readers, not under ten staff.

        LOL

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        • 162
          who what why where when says:

          How the hell did we get into the situation where joke figures like Mosely and Grant,backed by secretive rich foreigners and the Labour party are going to decide what the British public are allowed to read??

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        • 178
          perception says:

          Isn’t the Daily Star looking for an enterprising young blogger now the 2 Geedoes had left the Sex Press Group? Give them a try Bill , Geddo did it and it appears to have paid off quite handsomely, you were Geedo’s most loyal fan after all, do what he has done.

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    • 188
      Anonymous says:

      Jenny Agutter and her Walkabout in 1971 has a lot to answer for, affecting RH’s mind, methinks, (over 18s only, please!),

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  3. 3
    Flesh says:

    Less than two million per what Guido?

    A week
    A month
    a year
    a decade
    a lifetime
    Forever
    ?????

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  4. 4
    Let the Leftists tell their jokes says:

    Oh well another week over and it’s lefty comedy time on radio 4 now.

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    • 52
      The BBC says:

      We couldn’t find a better team of comedians

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      Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill (and 1st class passenger!) says:

      Outrageous, towards the end was a jab at Miliband, saying Blair says “carry on opposing tory cuts”, Milibands adds “opposing tory cuts to his to do list”. I will be speaking to the D-G over croissants tomorrow morning. Rest assured this is a free, liberal democracy when it comes to what jokes are passable and what is below the belt.

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      • 118
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Blair has been taking de pi55 out of the military for the past 19 years – they follow his false flags / orders get to kill some people and blair talks them up while he fills his boots with dosh … Hello who’s been taking de pi55 out of who?

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    Fony Blair says:

    Sounds fairly easy to avoid if you set up the blog element as a loss leader and ensure any advertising is charged via a different entity.

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      What's good 4 the BBC says:

      Just increase the wage bill (you and young H) to keep the profits down and do like the BBC and make sure any extra staff are self employed to keep the numbers on the payroll below 10.

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    :) says:

    Dancing on Mosley’s face. Happy Days :)

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      Axe The Telly Tax & Religion & Kill All Ecoloons says:

      He likes being whipped. LOL

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      • 74
        Concerned Parent says:

        The press doesn’t like being bound and gagged though.

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        • 121
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Andy F-wit big ears Marr – was forever calling himself and his cohorts the only group who ‘were holding the government to account under labour’. It was a crock of shit by Marr and his marrxist mates notwithstanding that the tory party had been ‘neutered’ during the reign of terror. All they in opposition sought was the backing of that bastard murdoch and his stringpullers.

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          • Village Idiot says:

            Bang on….

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          • What the Labour sheep forget says:

            Which was quite difficult when Blair and even Brown had their tongues half way up Murdoch’s arsehole. Why else would Murdoch have supported Labour for so long when everyone knew that Labour were a useless bag of shite. When their tongues weren’t up Murdoch’s arse they were half way up the bankers’ arses.

            That’s just another truth which left-wing bigots so conveniently forget.

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          • perception says:

            Murdoch is very crafty, he weighs up which party is likely to win a GE but not until he is certain, a bit like Lord Stanley at the battle of Bosworth or Blucher at Waterloo, then he broadcasts, “It was the Sun what won it”

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      • 114
        Mrs Whippy from above says:

        coming!

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  7. 11
    EU Funded Pro EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP

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    :) says:

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  9. 14
    :) says:

    Vote to stay in EU so that I can makes loads a money!

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    • 18
      B.liar the puppet master of Noooo Labour. says:

      Wrong monika.

      Vote to stay in EU so that I
      can makes loads a money!

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  10. 15

    Whilst welcome news to this blog, the idea that any larger sized organisation which operates outside of jurisdiction should be swept into its controls still smacks of censorship.

    How the hell can we hold the high ground against the Chinese when we effectively behave in a similar manner to them?

    The moment another Labour government gets its hands on the reigns, they will sweep in the smaller sites. I know this from having experienced it in my own field.

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    • 16
      Casual Observer says:

      The high ground has been surrendered.

      It is all downhill now.

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      • 17

        IMO, technology will ensure that an alternative to the internet will develop as this sort of thing starts to strangle what we know as the net. It may come from satellite but, just as most of us were unaware how the internet itself would take off, it might instead be via some other means not even available now.

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        • 19
          Geoglo says:

          Do no evil.

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          any old crap says:

          We could always go back to bulletin boards, even dial up internet links.

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        • 44
          Casual Observer says:

          It’s not the net etc. which has got them rattled.

          It is the fact that they have lost control, control which will not be reclaimed easily which has.

          If the press is controlled by government, it is quite simple to make the case that it is to be ignored. That is more dangerous for those in power than the currently deteriorating status quo.

          To your point on international high ground, most of what is published by other less ‘free’ countries is rightly regarded as trash. UK MSM is now is in that category officially.

          For those in the pressure groups who encouraged this, I look forward to not seeing them get state sanctioned press coverage, and as happened in other countries who have gone down this path, when the state murders these useful idiots and their families I look forward to not reading about it.

          But at least I can still blog about it as I see fit, and poke fun on Twitter.

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          • Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill (and 1st class passenger!) says:

            A word on defamation, this is the rich man’s tort, if you have no assets (or a short-lived spv company) you can say what you like, and risk almost nothing financially: also you can just avoid straying into a character assassination which relies on lies. If lies are what is selling then it is high time that rot stopped.

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          • @CO The very reason we have blogs, which have been pivotal in kicking in the doors of the barn which is potentially controllable media, is due to the rise of the net which is now available in most people’s homes. So it is difficult for me to agree with your first sentence. One follows the other.

            The net, with all its aspects, is really like one big pub conversation but capable of carrying much more sophisticated (as well as banal) content and allowing people to have multiple simultaneous conversational interchanges, much as we are exchanging thoughts now. My point is that, at some point, we shall be effectively closed down over these in the same way as China is now.

            It will be done on some other pretext, anti-terrorism is an excellent example – nobody wants terrorism do they? So therefore we act against terrorist Icelandic Banks… (as an aside, one may wonder if it was drawn up with sufficent flexibility of interpretion to enable these unforseen events to be included – but that would invest the left with much more intelligence than I think it has.

            We also see mission creep in Operation Yewtree where Jim Davidson is arrested for something which may, or may not, have happened with girls in their mid 20s. Yet the inevitable Savile/Yewtree association means that a number of people will be saying that it must have been underaged girls involved, just as they are now with Rolf Harris. I do not know the truth of his case either (anyone who has broken the law must face trial of course) but I do understand the concept of taint and I know that the UK authorities are deliberately and concertedly contributing to it on an industrial scale, here and in many other disparate fields. Why, we might ask?

            The answer, of course, is the control you refer to. It is now a dirty war they are fighting because everyone has forgotten what the right way was. Go out and ask a dozen people in the street what Habeas corpus means or how its effect has changed in the last decade. In London, one person might know. In Bradford or Preston, probably none will.

            Think of the way Margaret Thatcher broke the post-war consensus of politics. Now use the same approach regarding the internet. A genie has been let out of the bottle and it will never be returned.

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          • Casual Observer says:

            @Zeitgeist: Libel does not mean untrue. Who wants to defame the allegedly rich in any case ? Ignore them ideologically and economically and their power wanes.

            @SC: Governments can only control fear. Ideological will always be dirty when morality has been sacrificed, as essentially happened under Blair.

            The overall net is much bigger than the pub conversation, but some elements of it can be modeled as you suggest. The ongoing Bitcoin saga is showing the real direction / power which the technology is capable of releasing. The Arab Spring revolutions (and to a degree the 2011 London riots) another.

            All government can do is control the node points, for censorship purposes very specifically those at the border. However, this is very difficult. The ‘security surface’ is too vast and fundamentally porous to manage using old style strategies.

            I do not think the terrorism card would be pulled out to regulate net. What will be is economics, in particular taxation of traffic on the long distance portions. This would prove more effective a deterrent and control mechanism than ‘cutting the wires’. Leave them there, just make them expensive, and increase control on the cheaper routes.

            Agree with Yewtree scope: But Yewtree is a blood letting for Savile, and cover up of a grand scale. Fairbanks / Fernbridge is much more interesting and doesn’t seem to be resulting in many arrests at present.

            The real issues behind those investigations should be convincing many irrespective of the presence of the net that the previous status quo has to change. Those in power who are implicated will one way or another be thrown under the bus.

            What should be unsettling though is the question of who benefits most from this transition, and what are things transitioning to ? So many lucid questions not being asked, and being lost in the background noise of the pub conversation.

            There is one use of the internet right there though for government. Threatening its freedom certainly does help distract people from real issues, and despite the fine communication mechanism it is, so much information which should be transmitted isn’t.

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    • 43
      Ritter Wilhelm von Waad says:

      The point about the Chinese government is that it is competent and patriotic. Being Communist and corrupt may be unhelpful, but they are insignificant by comparison.

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    • 126
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Back in the mid 70′s a HIGHLY MONIED UP group of people ‘assumed’ wrongly that they had TAKEN COMPLETE CONTROL of the worlds press and media. They wrongly assumed that they had it ‘all’ ["total control" OVER EVERY FACET OF LIFE via the MSM] in the bag.

      They did not odds for the net. AND “that” is their undoing and unravelling right NOW as they desperately strive to dupe and decieve with fearmongering and propaganda – the masses who have caught the bastards out. Forget being a righty or lefty tribal monkey – that’s all part of their game of deception.

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      …reins… unwanted g

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  11. 23
    Bazinga! says:

    Channel 4 are a hoot. Talking about the two scumbag Moozlum terrorists, the lefty mong states that the evidence against them is very thin.

    Really? Like shooting dead a cop and then throwing grenades and a bomb at others?

    Fuck off you lefty cuunts. If these had been two white red neck right wing Sarah Palin fans you fucking shits would be trashing them every 30 seconds.

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    • 35
      A lefty Minging mong says:

      All Americans own grenades and shoot at each other in their tanks in the parking lot of JC Penny. They snipe at democrats on their way to bowling alleys to eat 99″ pizzas.
      The Moslems are innocent of the west’s global warming terror hate crimes!

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      (I don't need no doctor) says:

      C4 News are Lefty Gobshites.

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    • 55
      Tron says:

      That made me laugh. “Evidence thin” C4.
      When they hi-jacked the car they said “we are the marathon bombers !!!”

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      • 176
        Bazinga! says:

        Also one of the people blown up actually gave a description of one of them to the police.

        Now Newnight are giving the two scumbags a blow job as well. Fuck the BBC and their Moozie loving ways.

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      Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill (and 1st class passenger!) says:

      Collated evidence is thin insofar as if this reached a court of law, they would use this as an opportunity to blow up the judge and jury. Sometimes a real-action contact which involves apprehension and enforcement of public defence and self-defence means shooting people (if hell-bent attackers). Or did C4 not reach ‘Defences’ in their childlike legal knowledge, focussing on how to/how not to lock people up.

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    The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

    Yes there are still battles to be fought before the war is won as per esteemed comments above .

    But this weekend is one for celebration

    Go get hammered. Guido and staff but make sure the degree of liver damage is limited and allows you to. Be back bright eyed and bushy tailed on Monday .

    Cheers !!!

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      Casual Observer says:

      I think he is stealing another UKIP policy idea, and trying to repaint his communist stripes as free market libertarian.

      We all know that Dave lies through his teeth, is unreliable at best, Gordon Brown post gene-therapy at worst.

      Thatcher did know what was right, and she did right.

      Cameron does not know what is right, and has done wrong.

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  14. 28
    Anonymous says:

    Well done! Have you got an offshore bank account as well? If you and the other blogs are the only real news left with any balls you guys will be raking it in

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  15. 29
    Roselmach says:

    It’s a handy rule in life that if Evan Harris does something then you’re invairably better off doing the opposite.

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      Concerned Parent says:

      Can there be anything more satisfying in life than the thought of resisting left-wing sanctimony?

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      • 119
        How about... says:

        A world without Muslim fundamentalists?

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          Timmy Tin Foil says:

          As long as you bring it up…

          The suspect in Boston who was killed, and his brother arrested, were Chechens, but apparently they were not particularly involved in any specifically nationalistic anti-Russian activity, but were more garden-variety Is*lamic jihad types, if there can be said to be such a thing. It is being speculated that the FBI knew about one of them, from having been tipped off by the KGB, based on this creature’s travels to a republic nearby to Chechnya, that he was trouble, but that the FBI blew off the KGB because they thought it was the Russians looking to use the US as a cat’s-paw in settling their grievance with the likes of this creature. He had been admitted to the US as an asylee, which made it all the more likely the KGB’s warning would go unheeded. But what is more interesting is the MO for the bombing, if you will follow me: If you are some sort of international terror organisation, and you can use someone who seems to have a prima-facie reason for their act independent of your involvement, would you use him? It’s being thought that, as these men were “white,” i.e., not “sand-monkey-looking,” and, as they live in Boston, what better target than a large public event (as in the Atlanta Olympics Centennial Park bombing by a US home-grown non-muzlim bomber)– on a day that is close enough in time of year to the OKC bombing/Waco conflagration(stay tuned on that fertiliser factory fire)/Columbine HS shootings anniversaries, and spot-on as the day commemorating the opening shots of the American War of Independence (just down the road from where those took place)– by these two men, who, assuming they won’t be captured on scene, may be thought to be American “militia” types at first, and divert the course of the investigation down a blind alley. Even if caught, on scene or later, they will seem to have a plausible “alibi” motive.

          Given all this, do you take the chance these men may make a soup sandwich of the whole follow-up to the operation, by not having a real exit strategy, and convince them they are doing it for God, and what happens is in His hands alone, unless they decide to pull the pin on themselves? Where is the downside, if you are an international terror organisation? Even if they would be caught alive and waterboarded etc., they still don’t know much beyond maybe who their handler was– do you go for it?

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  16. 31

    …Thelma Hickham steps forward and pulls the ghouls rubber mask off.

    There are loud gasps “Mr Rusbridger!”
    “Wrawarll” howls scoobygui-do.

    Shaggy Neo says “it was you trying to drive everyone to offshore servers? But why? You own one of the biggest-smallest circulation newspapers. Why would you try and have yourself shut down?”

    The editor in the ghoul outfit sighed and said,

    “I don’t make any money. All the big papers were taking the piss. I just had a load of morons complaining about thought equality and student fees and tofu salad and Etruscan pottery on CIF. If I could have got Brian to close down all free press then I’d have an excuse to pack it in and become a pianist in a shopping centre.

    And I would have got away with it too if it wasn’t for you meddling blogger kids!”

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  17. 32
    ROFL ARRIS says:

    This blog is full of free speech.

    *Aside to little Joanna*

    “Can you guess what it is yet?”

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  18. 33
    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    Mosely is in denial. He can’t accept that he is a pervert and a scumbag. He thinks that because he is mega rich he can do want he wants with impunity.
    Mosely you are wrong!

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  19. 39
    Ritter Wilhelm von Waad says:

    What the control freaks don’t realise is that a censored press would publish even more complete guff than it does now. Since serious, important reporting would be restricted to the point of impotence, they would fall back on celebrity gossip, twaddle and filler.

    As long as it’s not about Them, They probably don’t care.

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    • 68
      Tessa Tickles says:

      Can the press actually print more guff than it does now? Even The Times is a sea of celebrity shite nowadays (I’m determined to get the lesser half to cancel it), and the Telegraph (which we gave up on a while back) was just utter crap about Apple/Android phones, Twitter, Facebook, Google-Doodle and those infernal “live news” stories that are just a garbled mass of crud that no-one had bothered to proof-read.)

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  20. 45
    Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill (and 1st class passenger!) says:

    Goodie (yes Margot, Good-y)! Cautious local journalists leaving only the BBC to go right for the soft parts of those we dislike. Includes you mate.

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    • 134
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Beware of ‘local journalists’ who paint and colour themselves up as reporters of the truth about local issues. Many of them are in fact beholden to bigger corporate behemoths than many people actually realise.

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      • 149
        Casual Observer says:

        In straight plain talk:

        Many ‘local’ reporters suck and are on the take.

        Apparatchik is watchword of the day.

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  21. 46

    £2 million?
    Can one really earn that from a few innuendos, some spicy westminster gossip and half a dozen tweets a day?

    Why aren’t my interns on the case? Get tweeting you munchkins!

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    Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn says:

    Minister: How are we going to regulate the bloggers?

    Sir Humphrey: Well you can’t; they will just move abroad

    Minister: So what can we do? We can’t bring in a law that we can’t enforce, but we can’t back down now or we will look weak

    Sir Humphrey: You just create an exemption for the ones you can’t control, but make it look like a generous concession

    Minister: Brilliant idea, Humphrey

    Sir Hunphrey: Yes, Minister

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    • 77
      Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill (and 1st class passenger!) says:

      Advised so as to look totally impotent. Methinks another Humphrey wants to employ his sons in a widened ministry remit under a Lib-Lab or Lab government, who will need teeming ranks of information ministry officers under their control. Hello Brave New World.

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    • 177
      Francis "The Pope" Urquhart MP says:

      So, Mattie: You believe the Government has surreptitious expansion plans ready, as far as blog regulation, now that we have our thin end of the wedge in?

      You are free to think whatever you wish– I couldn’t possibly comment.

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  24. 67
    in the know says:

    Victory: Guido’s Blog Will Remain Unregulated

    not when it comes to thatcher it won’t FFS

    Like

  25. 69
    The Moderation Robot says:

    Go away, Ewa. Your dog-turd analogy fell flat and was only partially formed.

    Like

  26. 72
    GREAT !! says:

    Everything I say on here awaits/gets mo*erated.

    Which is coool, I suppose.

    You’re afraid/jealous/a control-freak/a numptie/whatever.

    Byeeee. wouldn’t wanna be ya : ((

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  27. 73
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Of course, one could “go Galt,” in a sense, and deliberately set the whole thing up so that one blog one is involved with, let’s call it, say, “Order-order,” makes less than 2 mill and another, let’s call it “Media Guido,” also makes less than 2 mill. Does the fact that the editor/publisher/reporter/analyst/chief-cook-and-bottle-washer of both blogs are exactly the same person play into this at all? See, what I’m afraid of, setting aside the staffing regulations (<10) and all the other Mickey Mouse nonsense, is that it will be the blogger, and not the blogs, that will be the object of any regulation; in other words, you can get away with doing it on one blog, Mr S — ONE. Of course this would require that Guido set up a different URL and do some other things to demonstrate that they are two discrete (though not "discreet"!) entities. Can Himself can be arsed to do all the heavy lifting (to use a figure of speech), if it comes to that?

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    • 90
      Tessa Tickles says:

      And what if one used a Tony Blair-style “Windrush Ventures” thing to hide where all the money was coming from and going to? Or a Starbucksy thing, for that matter. “Yes, we made £5 million, but that was in the Cayman Islands; in the UK we only made a profit of 72p.”

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      • 205
        Your Friendly Neighbourhood "We're Just Haggling Pr!ce, Now!" Service says:

        It was once observed by a reporter, in a story about a police officer working the streets in an area known for prostitution, that you’re never going to get rid of whores or their Johns– it ain’t gonna happen, sez the reporter to the copper, so why go out on the street patrolling as you do, when all that that will accomplish is that they’ll just go around the corner, out of your sight, till later on, another constable comes along and moves them away from that block back to yours, where you will have to return, and so on; the constable, of an old avuncular PC Dixon type, said to the reporter, “Everything you’ve just said is true, Miss– they WILL just scurry like the rats down by the river when I or another rozzer come along; but it IS bloody hard to fuck and run at the same time, innit?”, meaning, we don’t have to make life EASY for them, do we?

        This may be the reasoning by the powers-that-be for any sort of regulation, tax or Internet, or whatnot– sure you’re going to take the piss, we know it, circumvention comes with any reg’s– but we’re not in the business of making things easier for you, are we?

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  28. 76
    q says:

    why have we got wall to wall american news on our tv screens?

    who’s hiding stuff?

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    • 84
      Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill (and 1st class passenger!) says:

      Probably the ONS latest press releases with positive stories which can wait until 2015 to be unleashed on Joe Public with Alastair Campbell’s insistence.

      Like

    • 85
      Guido Fawkes says:

      why have we got wall to wall american news on our tv screens?

      Have you tried turning it off, retard?

      Like

      • 89
        Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill (and 1st class passenger!) says:

        Perfect gloss for example, Labour rapidly increases new hospitals and cuts waiting lists, builds new schools, in fact gives construction a massive kick-start.

        Matt underlayer now showing: everything was on expensive PPI credit and the hospitals probably killed as many people under Thatcher, if not more as the matrons are all often replaced by Union officianados.

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        • 105
          rebekah aka nellnewman says:

          YoungNells was left disabled by the neglect of consultants under 13 years of labour – Dr’s & Nurses were encouraged to be more concerned with meetings over targets than they were with patient care which was pushed down to the bottom of concerns .

          Consultants and nurses considered patients a nuisance in the labour years as they were trying to climb the career tree that labour/andyburnham introduced Evil!! Really Really Evil!!

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  29. 77
    Bliar back seat driver of The Dumb Nation Labour Party. says:

    Vote Labour and stay in the EU. I need a job.

    Like

  30. 92
    Ed Bollocks having his strings pulled by the puppet master B.liar. says:

    We oppose cuts. But now B.liar is pulling the strings- err em- There will be cuts. Just haircuts.

    Like

    • 98
      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      +++Laugh++++

      As bliar has just discovered – militwit the son of brown is intent upon becoming the next prime mentalist with his spend spend spend, tax and creating thousands of government non job policies .

      Doubt he’ll make no10 with those vacuous ideas!!

      Like

  31. 93
    Nick says:

    Cameron’s policy on freedom of the press is the spawn of Hugh Grant and Ed Miliband.

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  32. 95
    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    I think the truth is the internet , as demonstrated by Guido, cannot be regulated , because it is international.

    That is a good thing! And bad news for labour and the celebrities who hoped to return to their days of troughing and bad behaviour that would never be revealed to the rest of us!!

    So it’s Thanks to Guido for flying the flag of freedom of speech and for continually revealing the transgressions of our political classes!!

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  33. 96
    Ed Balls. Spend Spend Spend. says:

    I am going nowhere.

    Like

    • 100
      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      I suspect edballs is going to be the next labour party house husband after the 2015 election!

      Like

    • 101
      Eric von pickles says:

      So is the whole of the UK
      So what’s the beef?

      Like

      • 111
        rebekah aka nellnewman says:

        Oh I don’t think so. Don’t know where you are but where I am there are people with their own businesses working hard and succeeding.

        Maybe you’re in kirkcaldy or somewhere where nobody bothers to work!

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        • 128
          Rolfe-a-roo says:

          I name you as old holborn and claim my £5 M&S voucher

          Like

          • rebekah aka nellnewman says:

            Well No!

            Old Holborn is committed to free speech and whatever gives offence. Fair enough!

            I however am committed to the individual who believes in looking after their familyl!!

            There is a significant difference between the two!!

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  34. 113
    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    So where is militwit and his soapbox tonight?

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  35. 122
    Thatcherated says:

    Over two million children in Britain are living in poverty, while thousands of people are relying on donated food to feed their families.

    Miners who were involved in the great strikes were denied basic state benefits by Thatcher.

    She even prevented miners receiving assistance towards funerals.

    This was the callousness of her Tory policies against the working class.

    The outrageous expenditure on her funeral is no more than rubbing salt into the wounds of her policies that devastated Britain.

    However, no matter how many soldiers Cameron puts onto to the streets or gun salutes they fire.

    No matter how many police they use to protect the reactionaries attending this state-funded weep-in.

    No matter how much the BBC tries to sycophantically portray Thatcher in benevolent terms, the people will never forget Thatcher’s legacy of hate and destruction.

    Ed Miliband must ignore the mad ravings of Tony Blair and David Blunkett and set the Labour Party on course to representing the working class once more and not the City of London.

    That would be the best way to fumigate the legacy of Thatcherism from Britain.

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    • 129
      Waste of space says:

      Your meds are in the cupboard.
      I think you’ve forgotten today’s dose.

      Like

    • 131
      melvin says:

      So how do you feel about Wilson, who shut more mines and made many more thousands of miners redundant than Thatcher?

      How do you feel about the miners who voted against striking on three occasions, but were betrayed by Scargill?

      How do you feel about Scargill rejecting the very generous redundancy and regeneration package offered by Thatcher?

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    • 133
      Hearhear says:

      Bravo

      Like

    • 135
      Loony left still trying rewrite history. says:

      The Loony left are back with their Bull.

      Thatcher is gone. Move on you twat.

      Old Labour closed pits. Thatcher closed pits. New Labour closed pits. More Deindustrialisation happened under old & New Labour than Thatcher.

      We can’t afford socialism. Accept. Move On!

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    • 136
      Engineer says:

      The whole world would have been so much better if Michael Foot had won. We’d be part of the Soviet Union by now, happily queueing for our weekly cabbage ration. Or if Neil Kinnock had won, we’d be part of the EUSSR, being bailed out like an even skinter version of Ireland.

      Still, at least we’d still have coal mines, each with it’s statutory pit-head mortuary to give the workers a bit of dignity when the accidents happened. We’d still have Morris Itals, Izal bog paper and power cuts in the evenings. We’d have community cohesiveness, which we’d really appreciate because we’d have fuck-all else.

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      • 141
        any old crap says:

        The Greens rule Liebour so the mines would have closed anyway, how we delight in the 13 years of nothing by Liebour experts at pissing our money on whitewash, 13 years of Liebour what do Liebour have to show, PFI, £1.7trillion uncosted civil servant pensions etc, fast mass immigration, high taxes, troops starved of assets, how many council houses did they build in the 13 years?, how many mines did they reopen, did they renationalise the railway and the buses, we do know what they should have done, build new power stations.

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      • 142
        rebekah aka nellnewman says:

        Bread without the yeast – power cuts – no heat in winter ( our windows froze our windows up inside making wonderful patterns – but we were really cold!!)

        My Grandma died and we couldn’t bury her.!!

        Thankyou Uncaring Unions!!

        Like

      • 150
        Silly BigCow says:

        You are michael’s foot and I
        claim my one size fits all
        Donkey jacket.

        Like

    • 139
      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      Well! What an absolute load of Twaddle!!!!

      Like

    • 143
      5th Amendment says:

      Watched a clip of Thatcher dead party goers, fumigation did come to mind. But bar of soap versus can of special brew gut rot, seems the latter will always win. Then the oh so posh socially minded mingling with the oppressed under classes, if not such a disgusting display, would be comic genius.

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    • 229
      Length does matter says:

      The girls call me Tommy Two-Inch. Wish mine was a foot.

      Like

    • 253
      Arthur thatchhead says:

      The “miners that were involved”.That came out without a ballot in the summer when coal stocks were high.why did’nt the notts miners strike?Talking of funerals there was one for an innocent taxi driver,david Wilkie who was killed by two striking miners by a 46 pound concrete post which was dropped on his taxi.This was a major turning point .Up the workers.

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  36. 132
    sadowidtz says:

    Is the bearded twat on HIGNFY supposed to be funny?

    Like

  37. 137
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Clocked the Panam Samcam piccys in the week – reminded me of that Panam … Ughhhuh Lock.erbie thingy wot bliar and some of his cohorts are still trying to cover up. Oh well … maybe I will have to give out a few more clues … now let me think what was that !ran airline downed for?

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  38. 144
    Silly BigCow says:

    You are michael’s foot and I claim my one size fits all Donkey jacket.

    Like

  39. 145
    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    So gordon’s constituents are leaving him in droves since he has abandoned them for his £millionaire lecture circuit!!

    No surprise there except I suspect he’ll be standing for election again in 2015 because it gives him £65k per annum for doing nothing. Idiots if they vote for him!!

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    • 154
      Glow in the dark after a walk on the beach. says:

      I doubt he will be standing as an MP at the next election. He is not representing his constituents and the penny is dropping with them. They will not vote for him.

      Like

      • 161
        rebekah aka nellnewman says:

        Labour voters in the north not really interested in soeone who represents their views or looks after them. Just vote for a donkey who wears a red rosette!!

        Like

        • 164
          Independence for Scotland says:

          Scotland has it’s own parliament anyway- funded by us.
          Why the hell do they have to right to have MP’s in our parliament too?

          Like

          • One dumb nation & 3 devolved Nations. says:

            Get your own parliament. Control your own destiny and stop whining about other nations and using them as scapegoats.

            Like

    • 169
      Saffron says:

      Nell I agree but as always these leftie/commie barstewards will always vote for the pig with a red rose pinned to its chest.
      IMHO if this asshole stands for election he should be given short shrift via his electorate,the man is and has been a total tosser as regards this country and he will go down in this country as a scottish wrecker of england as will his hated non mate bliar.
      INMHO the sooner we get rid of scottish asshole opinion then we might be in a different place.
      I sincerely hope that these guys will vote for independence and then we can be rid of them,as they are living in the past,with their battles against the english,for christs sake move on its in the past.

      Like

  40. 146
    Dan Hodges says:

    RIP Old Holborn.

    Police investigating tweets by blogger Old Holborn (who’s now deactivated his account)

    Like

    • 155
      5th Amendment says:

      Might return as Golden Virginia, you can’t stop dedicated smokers. Or those who think we should be free to speak our thoughts, not what we’re told to think.

      Like

    • 158
      5th Amendment says:

      Yes you did, otherwise you’d have no idea who it was.

      Like

      • 163
        5th Amendment says:

        Exactly, can’t agree more. Who is Steve by the way ?

        Like

      • 168
        5th Amendment says:

        So much your accounts are going to need checking for the threshold level.

        Like

      • 170
        "Steve" says:

        A good ROFLing and one in the arse every Tuesday.
        Plus expenses.

        Like

        • 181
          young Shep says:

          One up the Harris?.

          Like

        • 193
          The scarlet Guido says:

          Where’s the great Guido, probably Rolfing up his own arse, not sure it’s possible, but seems he’s done a runner at same time.

          Like

          • 5th Amendment says:

            Got news for you, he did ( see it now, now you don’t ) call me Steve. WTF is that, no idea, reckon all his posts are gone. He’s ex this & that party political, any party going ecstasy wise. His only background which would tie in with Guido Faukes is Irish Catholic. Why doesn’t he mention that – ever.

            Like

    • 159
      Oh, REALLY? says:

      OH, like ALL bloggers, was a narcissist. Plus, I know who he was.

      Like

    • 165
      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      Old Holborn – free speech and all that – will keep going.- don’t be silly!!

      Like

      • 167
        5th Amendment says:

        What ? Shouldn’t anyone say that, you’re right free speech is a silly idea. You tie yourselves in knots of contradiction.

        Like

  41. 166
    Magna Carta says:

    Freedom of Speech

    buried along with Mrs Thatcher

    The price of freedom is eternal vigilance – and we blew it

    Like

  42. 171
    young Shep says:

    “Cut the Wires”, Maxes safe words. :-)

    Like

  43. 172
    The Complete and Utterly Treacherous Tin Pot Tosser in No 10 says:

    I say you jolly chaps!!! Not very sporting to shoot a captive bird! – but I’ll make an exception for Guido!!

    What???

    Like

  44. 183
    5th Amendment says:

    So who is Steve, got news for you I haven’t a clue. Arrived here via a, believe it or not, BBC news link on Rolf Harris charges. They actually credited & linked to this site, have you got someone on the inside. Sorry not well phrased when talking about BBC. Liked the fact people said what they thought, but you do seem to be peer pressure, don’t disagree or we will set the mob on you. Just like BBC HYS, as pointless as Tw*tter & Facilebook. Don’t argue just agree, everyone will like you then, just ends up same juvenile name calling or blind hatred Rangers v Celtic. Pathetic, especially when you use the name of an historic figure willing to fight & die for his cause.

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  45. 184
    5th Amendment says:

    Guido, thought you would at least stay to show what my comments were directed at. Only a coward says something, gets a reply then runs away hoping the big boys will protect him. All my comments are now out of sequence out of context, because the great Guido has removed his. Coward.

    Like

    • 191
      twinkle twinkle little star. says:

      G hasn’t been here, he’ll be at the Political Betting shindig at Dirty Dicks or on his yacht in the Mediterranean the weekend starts at Friday lunch time for him..

      Like

      • 194
        5th Amendment says:

        No he’s off up the M25 there’s a Rave on this righteous paragon of moral virtues needs some ecstasy. The chemical kind, let’s not mention his obsession with other sorts.

        Like

        • 200
          twinkle twinkle little star. says:

          Hiya TwAT, thought it was you, not taken your pills again.

          Like

          • 5th Amendment says:

            You nicked em all you twat, silly me should know you live in a heaven you created.

            Like

          • 5th Amendment says:

            Twinkle what are your thoughts on them Irish papist invaders, destroying the Union so the English will forget about Ulster. Guido would obviously be against this due to his strong right wing views. Stop me, before I die laughing,

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  46. 185
  47. 186
    Anonymous says:

    Ok Max, we will all return to the village pump to get our gossip then. Give me strength, get to the wotsit will you Max, it’s a different World now.

    Like

  48. 187
    kasou says:

    Go guys there are a few of us that support you 100 %

    Like

  49. 195
    Anonymous says:

    Exemption for ‘micro business’ blogs is a small improvement, but it needs further clarification.

    There are millions of lone bloggers who are not businesses at all, so theoretically could still be hit by this stupid, ill-thought out regulation.

    Like

  50. 199
  51. 201
    q says:

    there’s no wonder all we have is news from america

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10006557/Fitch-cuts-UK-credit-rating-on-weaker-economic-and-fiscal-outlook.html

    what with the thatcher propaganda machine in full swing as well – the tories – fucking the country in the dark – bastards the lot of them – fucking cnunts

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    • 248
      Phil says:

      It may have escaped your attention mate but not mine. The tories are trying to reduce Labour’s deficit not their own.We will be in debt until a least 2050 after Labour’s horrendous overspending and thats’ assuming a fair wind.Anybody who thinks the economy can be turned round with that kind of debt in one term is a first class Prick.

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  52. 203
    q says:

    hey what have we here?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/scandal-of-firms-that-dodge-paying-the-minimum-wage-8580941.html

    companies avoiding paying the minimum wage!! And I thought the private sector was honest and true – can some toryboy here explain this to me because it is illegal to pay less than the minimum wage – or maybe you don’t give a fuck…..?????

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  53. 206
    5th Amendment says:

    Paul Staines aka Guido Fawkes,
    We know who you are, you don’t come anywhere near the man you use as pseudo name. You are mixed race Irish Catholic convert, you’ve played politics in any party that will have you. You have no problem speaking to those you supposedly despise. Your only success is creating a blog that is home to juvenile discussions. Then play hardman right wing, before running away & removing your comments. Never answer hard questions, you’re a coward. Manipulative & savvy but a craven coward all the same. NO SURRENDER.

    Like

    • 207
      5th Amendment says:

      I agree, moderate that you cowards.

      Like

      • 208
        5th Amendment says:

        No way the language was wrong, maybe the political statements are wrong. No we have used race or religion, or we named & shamed 1 who loves to do so under freedom of speech & information. That Guido resorts to mods is telling in itself.

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  54. 209
    ping pong ding dong smoke on the water quack quack splat boyle's law and Plank's constant splash !! says:

    How come a yoof is able to shut a whole city down?

    Like

  55. 210
    ROLF is the New ROFL says:

    Like

    • 244
      Fish says:

      Because they are corrupt Rupe.

      Just like the whole Leveson pantomime

      Like

    • 245
      (I don't need no doctor) says:

      It’s all beyond me Rupert old son, but don’t you worry about it.

      Like

    • 249
      Phil says:

      You should know Rupe you were in bed with the worst offenders ever to run to this country for 13 years and you never raised a finger.

      Like

  56. 211
    5th Amendment says:

    NO SURRENDER – you are & always will be a complete coward, any party take me I will support. I am a mixed race Irish Catholic, I found a niche for angry people, soon realised they’re right wing, so pretended to join them. I SCREAM free speech & opacity, but must mod anyone who questions me or says who I actually am. David you are in the closet, you are Irish Catholic, you hate most of your supporters. We know you & your kind.

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    • 213
      Tachybaptus says:

      Well, 5th, it looks as if, rather than being moderated, you have been shoved into the rag-tag of out-of-order comments at the end (not what you would expect in a blog called order-order.com). But in reply to your comment numbered 204, I respect your passion, but what the fuck do you mean about screaming opacity? Did you mean transparency, the opposite of opacity? I can’t think of any other word you could have got it mixed up with.

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  57. 217
    Anonymous says:

    He’s been caught, sleeping in a boat – a nineteen year old, and he was blubbering, and had a sot wound since earlier, hiding in a boat in Boston rivers. Thought Boston should have thought to look there first, after dumping our tea overboard, and paying for the I R A, and things.

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  58. 219
    albacore says:

    If the name of the game is cutting wires
    Begin with the strings to LibLabCon liars
    To our Parliamentary marionettes
    A free and frank press is the greatest of threats
    And whoever’s jerking the treacherous shits
    You can bet your lives it ain’t any real Brits

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    • 220
      Anonymous says:

      Once I met a lady pretty,
      married then kitten.
      Soon turned into cat bite,
      so returned smitten.

      To single life that fare,
      pubs and clubs.
      But then one day bump,
      lady that rubs.

      copyright who ever cares.

      Like

  59. 239
  60. 242
    Owen Jones says:

    Good why should the press be regulated so a Nazi pervert like Max Mosley isn’t exposed.

    Like

  61. 246
    Displaced Brummie says:

    It is now time to launch the Divine Brown Trust for Press Freedom.

    Like

  62. 247
    Displaced Brummie says:

    I’d suggest stringing them up. But Max would say: “Ooh! Yes, please!”

    Like

  63. 252
    Gillian Beastley says:

    Of course, I care nothing for any of the above.

    I merely care that I continue to earn stupid amounts of cash for a position in which I am never responsible for the actions of my officials.

    But hey- that’s why our complaints process is so confusing!

    Nice!

    Like

  64. 255
    Arthur thatchhead says:

    Some great points 5th A.Have a rest for a while and have a gander at”labour 25″(google it)It will cheer you up.You may even see a few of our comrades there.

    Like

  65. 257
    gerrydorrian66 says:

    Well done! But I’m sure this is only the first shot in a long battle. Not that I’m complaining, as much as the fascists tie up the newspapers, they’ll cause a free press to evolve still further on the blogosphere.

    Like

  66. 258
    Anonymous says:

    Is there now a left wing assault on bloggers actioned by the PC Police?

    Like


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