February 1st, 2013

Dave’s 2014 Deadline

20130201-083412.jpgAnother twist in the Adam Afriyie stalking horse plot this morning. Today’s headlines report that the PM has been set a deadline of summer 2014 to improve the party’s poll ratings or face a vote of confidence. Not only that but the Chancellor is now in the plotters’ sights as well. Guido knows of at least two Tory MPs who have received dinner invites from Afriyie as part of a concerted effort to woo potential backers. It’s on…


  1. 1
    Hugh Janus says:

    Not before time, either. The sooner One Term Dave is removed, and replaced by a Conservative, the better.

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    Whatever says:

    Not sure why Adam is so keen to be leader of the opposition, really.

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    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    Good. I’d been thinking cameron and georgieporgie needed a good shake up !

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    Screwed Taxpayer says:

    Typo error guys. Summer of 2013, not 2014.


  5. 5
    aLiarpoliticians says:

    Nigel Farage for Prime Minister! Oh wait, that won’t go as smoothly as people think……

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    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    As a matter of interest what is afriyie’s position on the EU?

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    Gawd Help Us says:

    Just get on with it, Monday morning seems like a good time to make a fresh start.

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    Is he another PC chatterati? says:

    and gay marriage?

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    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    Improve the party’s poll ratings.

    Simple. Make sure Conservative party members start a polling organisation and buy a national news organisation which commissions opinion polls from them.

    It’s how Labour have faked their polling position for over 40 years.

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    Theres no point turning up to a fisheries protection committee meeting
    When there’s No fish left to protect

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    Anonymous says:

    Has long as he shuts the BBC down he gets my vote for life.

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    Ex-Conservative voter says:

    I thought Dismal Dave was given an 18 month deadline back in 2010..

  13. 13
    Ex-Conservative voter says:

    and immigration.

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    Synic says:

    Guido — ffs why did an ad. for Sheffield Department of Sociological Studies just come up after Post 11?

    The PC fuckers are everywhere now.

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    stewartedwards says:

    Steps to secure a Tory Victory:-

    1. Stop fracturing our nation with well intentioned but ill thought out policies that time have proven to be failures. Tricky one to resolve in a year I give you.

    2. Generate sufficient decent paying jobs, again a tricky one.

    3. Work out how you are going to deal with the national social fallout as the cuts hit the poorest even more deeply from April, by Summer 2014 there are going to be hundreds of thousands of more families really struggling with an axe to grind. Lots of voters in those families. (Tory policies might have the right broad idea but in my opinion a drasticly wrong approach, but I accept they are limited by the 5 years timeframe).

    4. Keep your fingers crossed that Labour dont get their act into better gear.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Be better if we just replaced the Conservatives.

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    Curious says:

    and eliminating the Deficit by 2015?

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    With what? A Sesame Street look-a-like and a financial incontinent?

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    Muuurty's Ghuuuurst says:

    Should have dumped him ages ago.

    More from the University of Stating the Bleedingly Obvious.

    One can hope I suppose.

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    Shooty* says:


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    Westminster Gossip says:

    Before talk of replacing David Cameron let’s talk about who could replace him. THe idea of a complete outsider is just plain stupid! Now take a close look at the Tory CAbinet members, with the exception of William Hague, who still has serious questions to answer over his sleeping arrangement with his junior aide, there is no one else…

    I quite like David Cameron and I think the people do when comparing the alternative of Mr ED the Milliband and MR Ed the Balls…

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    Shooty* says:

    I’m going to come out and say this. Not sure if anyone has before:

    *deep breath*

    This is not America. Core Tory voters will not vote for a party led by Adam Afriyie, no matter how competent and Conservative he might be.

    If you disagree, please feel free to put me right.

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    Ex-Conservative voter says:

    1. Abolish employers’ national insurance contributions, the infamous “tax on jobs”.
    2. Abolish foreign aid, and instead use the £11bn p/a to raise the personal tax allowance.
    3. Abolish Trident. Who the f*ck’s going to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against us, FFS.
    4. Deport any immigrant who breaks the law. Germany does this, we can, too.
    5. Scrap the toll/tax booths at Dartford.
    6. Don’t allow anyone into Britain without a visa.
    7. Don’t give a visa to anyone who hasn’t got health insurance.
    8. Scrap road tax. And don’t even think about toll roads.

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    The tory party should have ditched Camoron and Osborne after the first 18 months , we are now deeper in shit than ever and just exactly what has Dave achieved ?
    He gets rid of 58,000 service personnel , then drags us into yet another pointless war.
    We don’t need to fight terrorists in foreign lands , we are an island FFS all we need is tighter borders , which he has also failed to master
    we need to tell the European court where to stick their human rights act and start to deport all the shit of the world that has ended washed up on our shores
    He failed to get his boundary changes
    he failed to get lords reform
    he failed with his social security reforms
    he failed to “kick start the economy
    and he failed in just about everything he said he would do
    but the worst Fail by a country mile if his failure to deliver his “Cast Iron “guarantee of a referendum That was an out and out lie and for that he should step down , as he is there under false pretenses , because his margin of victory was so small , that if you removed those people who believed they would get a referendum from the total , he would not be in power
    Now he is under the impression that he lied once and it paid off , so he can do it a second and get away with it , he is showing that he thinks the electorate are plebs
    History will show him as one of the worst PM’s in history “Do nowt Dave ”
    his only aclaim to fame is he wasted a whole parliament on Gay marriage !

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    XXXX says:

    has Beckham’s decision to give his French earnings to Charity and keeps his kids in the UK got anything to do with the French tax regime?

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    I thintherely hope you aren’t weferring to me ath Gonthzo – coth he wath in ve Muppetth!!

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    Climbing the Greasy Pole messes up your clothes says:

    Going for long term positioning.

    This is the first move in raising his profile within the party, media and public. It’s inevitable that Cameron will lose in 2015 and that he will be replaced. Osborne will be busted flush so any leadership contest will include Gove, May and probably Fox. Afriye could be in the running too although the Tory Party made THAT mis-judgement in 2005 and may not want to go for this type of candidate again.

    Labour will take over the poison chalice of government in 2015 but it’s likely under Miliband and Balls stewardship to end in tears with a resurgent Opposition. Umunna is likely to be in the running for Labour leadership when Labour lose 2020 election and by then Afiye could be well positioned as Leader of Opposition to take over as PM.

    Of course …it could all go tits up and Afriye could join the ranks of the best Prime Minister we never had like many e.g Rab Butler, Roy Jenkins etc who at their zenith were all touted as future Prime Ministers but never achieved it.

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    Anonymous says:

    2014 will be too late. There will not be enough time to turn UK economy. If its done now, UK economy could be turned with changes made to 2013 budget.

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    And I’ll have you know, I’m financially intercontinental – I helped Gordmong f.uck it up all OVER the world!!

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    Steve Miliband says:

    Ditch dismal Clegg and his woeful flip floppers

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    The Hodge offshore trust fund says:

    And miscegenation

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    Let me make this absolutely clear says:


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    Hang The B@stards says:

    They can stalk all they want. They are only fighting to be the next leader of the opposition.

    Dave’s lost it.

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    @# says:

    Cameron promised them the Blair effect , but failed to see they where out witted by far cleverer men in the Labour ranks determined to make the tories unelectable & so having fallen for the promised land of PR , spin & cosy links to the media the Tories find themselves on foundations built on salt & sand. When they can only only muster 754 votes in a by election in a industrial wasteland of their making, then surely its time to understand that their days as a national party are over. How many MPs in Scotland , Wales & affiliates in Northern Ireland? & then they have the nerve to stand in front of the union flag.

    All Cameron ever was was a front , a nice clean image to disguise the secret beating heart of the Tories – George Osborne a man wedded to the gloden era of Margaret The Blessed , a fanatical student of the ‘Finchley Faith’ a determined disciple along with Gove et al who spent 13 years watching New Labour out Tory the Tory party & who having seen how PR & spin worked its magic fell for the same spell, without realising that Blair, Mandelson & Campbell are total masters of the craft, one only had to see Blair at Leveson to see , compare Blair’s slickness & that of Cameron who looked totally out of his depth , sat squirming & desperate.

    The Tory party has been a bunch of malcontents since the end of Thatchers days , John Major was riddled by them as they tore themselves apart, one embarrassment after another, & so it would appear that some 20 years later they still argue the toss about the great bogeyman that is Europe as though its some kind of evil monster without understanding that in the grand scheme its irrelevant, that waving the flag about doesn’t disguise the fact that their policies are whats causing their low poll ratings, their arrogance, their attitude of somehow having a divine right to rule & a total disregard for the state , the fabric of society& that they have no connection to the harsh realities of modern Britain & all the trappings of a country thats been sold off , where 24 hr supermarkets, burger joints & shopping malls are all that seemingly keep this once industrious & inventive nation going. They are the architects of their own downfall, changing leader will not alter the fact that they are dinosaurs , totally out of time , clinging to ideology thats a busted flush. 1997 should have sent the alarm bells ringing. Seats once bastions of conservatism lost forever , the golden era that never was under Margaret The Blessed has become that big a millstone they cant even see it. The country has moved on , the Tories haven’t, they have a chancellor who thinks the budgets of 81 & 86 are the answer to the problems of 2013 & therein lies the problem.

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    Gonk says:

    Gove, Fox, Davis and my favourite, Francis Maude.

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    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    Exactly. The Conservative’s biggest electoral asset with the floating vote is Cameron. Not with loonies and Labour trolls ranting on these forums, but in the real world of electors, Cameron is by far the best choice for leader.

    and do people actually believe opinion polls in this country????!!! after 40 years of complete bollocks from pollsters and their media customers, people actually take what they say seriously??

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    A gay spitroast does not hold the same appeal, Frankie! :-(

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    SP4BS says:

    Yes. And that his contract is less than 6 months.
    French tax authorities take into consideration both whether you’ve lived there for 183 days and whether “the centre of your life” (*) is in france.

    So, He’s not going to get taxed in france. Fair enough you might say, especially as if he lived in france he’d have to pay 600k per year in “rich bastard tax”. (0.5% of his + mrs.B’s total posessions)

    Not getting taxed in france, but getting paid loads in France would make him deeply unpopular.

    So then he wouldn’t be able to sell underwear and perfume. Which might be what the whole thing is about. oh, and that he probably still does have fun playing football.

    (*)trust the buggers to make tax law sound like something out of a bloody philosophy course.

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    Anonymous says:

    Cameron is giving loads of cast iron guarantees after 2015. As pressure increases there will be more. I will not be surprised if he tell everyone that he will double or triple their salaries after 2015.

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    Popeye says:

    Or even, perish the thought, Vicky wants to be based in Paris for a time?

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    The Answer says:

    What is his position?

    Voted strongly against more EU integration.

    Has never voted on equal gay rights.

    Voted for a stricter asylum system.

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    Hang The B@stards says:

    Ahmen !

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    Let me make this absolutely clear says:

    All good except 3.

    If you want peace, then prepare for war.

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    Anonymous says:

    Unless they do it before 2013 budget.

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    Compo says:

    Cameron couldn’t wipe the floor with a mop, he certainly couldn’t wipe the floor with the most unpopular Brown. The man had the Election handed to him practically on a silver platter yet still couldn’t manage a majority.

    The conservatives had to go into a coalition with the Left Lib’s much to the annoyance of the rank & file shires, and what a disastrous episode that has been.

    Milliband may not be the strongest the opposition has to offer but he will win a majority against Cameron, IF Cameron is still in No 10!.

    That being said it is doubtful that Cameron will last much longer, the rumblings on the benches have become louder day by day.

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    Oh dear – not turned up to do the committee job he’s paid for.

    Still, all the UKRAP supporters will probably say it is his ironic rebellious spirit, to take EU money and then divert it to good works, while using his time saved for other important things.

    How IS that Jersey-based (only because it’s closer to EU headquarters, not for tax avoidance purposes of course) educational trust structured?

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    Lou Scannon says:

    That’s a very good question. We need to take an in-depth look at this guy in order to decide whether or not he deserves our support.

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    Toooldbyfar says:

    Politicians make me puke.

    “Fix the polls or lose your leadership”. Not “Fix the economy” or “increase employment” but rather “save our cushy gin-soaked lifestyle”.

    The taxpayer is currently funding these self-obsessed idiots to sit in dark rooms and plan how THEY can stay in power rather than working like dogs to improve the country. How many of them right now are discussing political strategy rather than economic improvement?

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    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    eh? “Core Tory voters will vote Tory with anyone in charge, that’s why they are “core”.

    The wh1te working-class, floating vote might not like it much. But then, voting for the Labour won’t be an alternative for them either

    The wet middle-class floating vote won’t care except that they will think the Tories are nasty for getting rid of Cameron

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    Phoney Blair says:

    Can I be leader of the Conservatives? Honestly, I’m not fussy.

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    SP4BS says:

    that won’t last when she realises just how much dog shit you’d have to wipe off your shoes.

  53. 53
    fruitcake says:

    Morning all, another day with the UK tied up in party politics while the economy goes to ratshit.

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    Roopert Birdmuck says:


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    Evil Landlord says:

    Think of the Gift Aid tax reclaim he can make to reduce his UK tax

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    It does for most senior Tories ,I fear
    Good morning sir !

    A country run by gayers for gayers , It’s backs to the wall time !

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    Procrastination is the thief of time says:

    Why wait so long?

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    Honest Dave says:

    It was one of those cast iron deadlines that never quite arrive.

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    Hugh Janus says:

    Unfortunately (and to my eternal regret) I and millions like me gave the posh prat 5 years from May 2010.

    Won’t be making the same mistake again.

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    P0rn Stats from elsewhere says:

    So, if you enjoy reading The Needle, you’re certainly not alone.

    Another statistic that I’d like to share is this one.

    The amount of money I have made from this blog = ………………………………….£0

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    Who'd have thought says:

    Too late minds have been made up, decisions already taken, the Conservatives can now to to hell in a handcart as far as I’am concerned, even if the remove the yellow from their spines , the tainted smell is still there.

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    Anonymous says:

    This story makes me laugh ! i cant think of one member of the government who could do any better, with the constant whingeing by the media and nonentities on the Labour front bench !also the disloyalty by some “Coservative! and Libdem MPs has been a disgrace.

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    Ctesibius says:

    Edit 1) to read “Replace Income Tax, Inheritance Tax, Capital Gains Tax, Stamp Duties, Television Licence Fee, etc. and National Insurance with a £12,000 tax free personal allowance and a 23% flat tax on ll income and capital gains.”

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    Ctesibius says:

    ‘ll’ should read ‘all’

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    Anonymous says:

    Dont be rediculous! the mess Labour feft will take longer than a year to sort out, grow up FFS !

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    Mornington Crescent says:


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    Anonymous says:

    You dont seriously think Labour will get in with those numpties at the top do you ?

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    There are other ways, than the third way says:

    Oh I get it, only loonies and Labourites think Cameron is a lefty ‘progressive’ tosser?
    Funny place your world, full of cranks, socialists and sane ‘progressive’ types like you and Dismal Dave.

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    Anonymous says:

    I dont think either of the Beckhams do anything unless loads of dosh are involved !

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    Who'd have thought says:

    It’s the comments the Conservatives should be looking at, they will find they have been beaten yet again by Libors PR, the Conservatives are getting the blame for the destruction of the economy even if it was destroyed in Libors reign of terror in 1997 to 2010.

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    Anonymous says:

    I dont think Afriye has a cat in hells chance of leading the Conservative party, he is unknown and doesnt come over very well, why on earth change David Cameron for him ?

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    Cunning Fox says:

    use Firefox with Ghostery add-on and they will dissappear

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    There is one good aspect. they can’t reproduce!

    The very best of health to you on this cold, grey morning.

    I have taken my arse well out of harm’s way. (Only eight more weeks and they are open again down here… and the nudie camp sites!)

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    same old...same old says:


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    Anonymous says:

    Be careful what you wish for you moron, do you really think Ed Milliband and his band of expense fiddlers can do any better ? Ha Ha Ha

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    Time to dust off the sombrero i fear
    lucky bugger err or should that be jotter lol

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    Anonymous says:

    Nigel Farage is useless, he isnt even an MP how anybody thinks he could be PM in 2 years time beats me, but it does show what a poor grasp his “supporters” have of parliament !

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    I think meeting Posh set Cherie on her chosen path.

    Cherie and Tony have loads of integrity. All the integrity money can buy.

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    It's the message, not the messenger says:

    What utter bollocks.

    Using your logic, tories would never vote for a woman as PM either.
    Whoops, they did in huge numbers too.
    Something all her ‘moderate’ ie: dripping wet tosser successors, have never managed since.

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    DIY Marton says:

    Never mind the ciggie get your unhygenic arse off that bed.

    { During a recent unplanned short stay in an NHS hospital, I observed time and time again that the hygiene of the patients and particularly their visitors that caused me to worry. The staff’s hygiene was very good ).


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    Grollace says:

    The writing was always on the wall when Cammy failed to get a grip on immigration, probably because his industrialist friends did not want salaries to go up, the same ones that probably had a nanny or two on the minimum wage.
    So much promise: so little deliverance!
    Nobs do not realise the country is overpopulated because they leave too far away from it.
    It’s only honest Jo’s, who can’t get their child into a nursery, or need to wait a year for an operation that have to bear the brunt of this human tidal wave.
    Ironic really that his “counter punch” is part of the problem, not the solution.

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    Anonymous says:

    ….and loyalty ?

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    Anonymous says:

    You only need to be reminded, that Dave never won the last election, when every one despised so much the odious Brown.

    Dream on if you think he will win outright, the next election.

    As he said recently, “Wake up and smell the coffee”

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    They even elected John Bercow FFS! says:

    Why would any small “c” conservative vote for the Tories unless their mental faculties were impaired?

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    Anonymous says:

    So you would rather give posh pratt Ed Milliband a go now would you ? you sound a bit thick !

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    T'Old Fella says:

    That is true, the Cons have always been a revolting party eg MacMillan, Hume, Heath and Major, and when they really got really, really brave Maggie (that was only because they felt they were likely to loose an election. I have to admit though Dave started with Tory high hopes. maybe too high, but in the first 6 months Cams was hardly at the despatch box and Cleggy held PMQ. I think he has been finding jobbies for old school and uni chums, they maybe maybe quite personable in normal life but they have no real experience of working life for any length of time in business or in a professional capacity eg scienentist, engineer, medics, the degrees of PPE are what they have, almost straight into the Cons HQ.

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    Anonymous says:

    Then we can make jokes about him, so he never gets taken seriously again!

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    T'Old Fella says:

    The proverbial rats in a sack, I don’t say stoats in a sack, we all know what they get up to

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    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    Labourites post under the guise of “disgusted” UKIPPERS and the like, to get us right-wingers frothing at the mouth and all sheep-like, start ranting about Cameron etc.

    Cameron is the best communicator and leader most favoured by the floating vote. Clegg stole his thunder at the last election because of dumb-ass TV debates. Given that is unlikely to happen again in 2015, with Cameron’s main opponent being Millitwat. They should stick with Cameron if they want to keep the floating vote and take the ones that voted for Clegg.

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    Disgusted Tunbridge Wells says:

    -£145.50 sounds better

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    Stabber I think you mean. … and it wasn’t with a knife LoL :-)

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    It's the message, not the messenger says:

    None of them, Lab, Lib or Con, are interested in economic improvement.

    If they were they would remove impediments to employment and lower costs, with low tax and cheap energy policies. They are the problem and until they are smashed, we will continue to spiral into the dark.

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    T'Old Fella says:

    I say old chap, that is going a bit far old chap, what,what

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    Anonymous says:

    We’be had 3 Jocks in a row at No 10, what harm would it do?

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    It was the voters who got mad cow disease but we managed to kill the cattle instead.

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    Delusions of grandeur says:

    The Mail online story calls the select committee chairman Lady Margaret Hodge today! Do they know something we don’t?

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    Anonymous says:

    In reality,barring any real internal or external significant “events”, the most likely outcome of the next election, is a Lab/Lib coalition.

    The achievements of this coalition government are so underwhelming as to conclude that, the only reason for its existence,is that it suits both the political parties involved and their respective persons egos only! It’s nice to have PM or deputy PM on your CV when you apply for the presidency of a United States of Europe.

    Who can argue with this?

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    Nick Clogg says:

    Count me in! I have all the qualities to make a great PM.

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    T'Old Fella says:

    They are still encouraging more to come into the country, all those tax avoiders in their own countries, you know rich chappies like themselves, they will not pay tax in this country either.

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    T'Old Fella says:

    It maybe even worse than thatwith even a 4 way split

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    You've been slotted says:

    Honestly ?

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    It's the message, not the messenger says:

    That ‘sorting out’ stuff, should have started day one.

    Dismal Dave is pissing money away on utter bollocks while sacking soldiers when we are at war, so they can come home to a P45.

    Still, he is working tirelessly on gay marriage and the the ‘boost’ that will give the economy, right?

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    SP4BS says:


    Assumes that negotiating with Balls is less painful than negotiating with Brown/Balls.

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    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    Taking back the floaters who were going to vote for Cameron and then went for Clegg at the last minute after TV debates and, by default, taking back many seats that the Liberals took off the Conservatives in the last 20 years, as their protest and cop-out vote will fall back. Bent boundaries or not, the Tories seat count will increase.
    Labour tossers,like you, really shouldn’t think that Milliband will automatically get the floating vote because people don’t usually blame the fire brigade for not putting out fore quick enough, over blaming the arsonist.

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    It's the message, not the messenger says:

    What’s the difference?

    The coalition are spending more, on even worse crap, than the financial incontinents of ZaNuLab.
    Cameron is obeying his orders, just as the imbecile Miliband will.

    Until we either stop taking orders, or remove oursleves from their malign influence, it matters not who sits in Wastemonster.

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    Duncan Makyor says:

    Who is this guy Afriyie, I’ve never heard of him.
    Where is his power base, is it just magically spun out of thin air?
    When have we heard him speak, or express an opinion?
    Does he publish manifestos and the like?
    Does he feature even on YouTube?
    Is he a brilliant businessman?
    Is he loved by the Lobby?

    Or is he just photogenic. That won’t work, as Obama, BLiar & Cameron have taught us.

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    It's the message, not the messenger says:

    Right winger?

    Biggest laugh of the day so far. Please keep posting tosh dressed as fact, it’s hilarious.

    What next, dripping wet Fabian Dave is the son of Maggie, not Heath?

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    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    An important point to consider is how many seats will the Liberals have to bargain with after the next election. It is very possible that they could nearly be down to single digits or perhaps less than 15 seats, after the cop-out and protest votes drop back. The 60 seats they had after 2010 meant they could deliver a decent majority, but giving a small majority won’t exactly be stable.

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    Billericay Dickie says:

    Dave loves pounding the pink pound.

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    Billericay Dickie says:

    Loyalty is less important when you have a piece of shit like Cameron as your “leader”.

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    It's the message, not the messenger says:

    Farage PM?

    Are you serious? I don’t imagine anyone in UKIP or Farage himself thinks anything of the kind. The objective is to become the third party in place of Clagg’s Lib-Dim shower and break the Fabian LabLibCon, consensus.

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    Fool me once.... says:

    Commendable soothsaying, although any one of the scenarios in your comment would likely mean our country will continue its decent down the crapper.

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    Fuck off Now Dave. says:

    Camoron — doubling the National Debt in this Parliament etc etc — we might as well have Liebour back to finish fucking up the economy.

    Camoron is a useless ConLibLabber. There is no point in him being P.M.

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    It's the message, not the messenger says:

    ED, Dave, Dave, Ed, from where I’m standing, apart from one sounding like a complete prat and one acting like a complete prat, I can’t discern a difference in actual policy, between them.

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    Get back in your pram says:

    Pathetic Moron.

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    JH293923492384 says:

    I don’t give a crap about the BBC, I don’t pay for a license anyway.

    The very first thing I watched on broadcast TV this year was last night, the Charlie Brooker Wipe thing. Which was shite – he’s lost it, he’s part of the meeedia establishment now, with references to ‘austerity’ to boot.

    I doubt I will watch more than 10 hours of TV this year, so they can fuck the fuck off if they think I am paying £14 per hour for the ‘priveledge’.

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    Leon Brittan says:

    What do you call a man who has a seagull on his head?

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    stewartedwards says:

    20 years ago at university this was taught in the Economic theory of politics unit. Politicians will do what it takes to benefit themselves – reelection over the economy etc.

    It is well known about but it is tolerated so it continues. The only people who could change it are voters voting for individuals and not parties, and the parties themselves selecting better candidates.

    Bearing in mind how Osbourne was booed by the whole crowd at the paralympics, and how his policies have failed to create decent paying jobs and have hurt so many, he seems to be an interesting choice to lead the Tory campaign. I mean how many other Tory MPs have been publicly booed by tens of thousands?

    Mind you the inner clique might have got rid of all the no men so might now think that everything is hunkydory. In which case I wonder how many years it will be before the Tories get elected again.

    I still think that the most likely think to lead to a tory victory this time around is the labour party, it really needs to convincingly differentiate itself, be courageous, show wisdom, heal the damage done,,, am I dreaming??

    Steps to Labour Winning next election:-

    1. Stop saying we will do the same as the tories – that may or may not be the sensible thing to do – but those who are hurt by the tories wont go for it. You need to find a convincing alterative strategy that heals the tory policy socail fractrures while meeting the necessary objectives. Bit difficult given that the tories have changed so much in so short a time. But it could be done. If you have the courage.

    2. The tories have made it exceptionally easy for you to inspire, to rebuild trust, to regain credibility, but you are not grasping the opportunities. Remember even the IMF have publicly stated that their maths models were wrong, hence their advice was wrong, and stop following the tory trap of following the money.

    3. Theoreticly I should be your ideal voter – scots working class background, yet I was once a member of teh tory party and have until recently voted lib dem. Ask yourself why have you never appealed sufficiently to get my vote (actually I have voted for you once at local elections, but I dont think I ever have nationally). Crack that (my fee is £1m – Stewart rubs his hands and cackles) and think of how you could better serve the vulnerable in society while improving finances and you could do really well.

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    JabbaTheCat says:

    Anyone noticed how Farage has disappeared up his own arse, after his rather lame effort to claim credit for Cameron’s referendum idea, even though UKIP have always been against in/out EUSSR referendums, as highlighted nicely by the Nikki Sinclaire petition business?

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    JabbaTheCat says:

    To paraphrase Tarantino, we don’t need no n i g g a’ in Downing Street…

  121. 121
    JabbaTheCat says:

    Giz a fish, coz I hungry…

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    +1! Even paying French tax on his earnings would still have made him money, ffs!

    Good on him – I don’t see that cnut GallowsWay giving over 6 months MP’s pay for the Mozzie widows and orphans fund. Or even the woefully underfunded “Battered Penguins, sorry Mozzie Wives Charity”

  123. 123
    Casual Observer says:

    So: If Labour destroyed, but their PR have convinced otherwise, and the Conservatives haven’t but are unlelectable as a result: Walk away from both.

    They are clearly the same side of a coin, so for change the solution is simple.

    Vote UKIP.

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    Frankly I would rather see the Teletubbies as the third party than those useless, sandal wearing arse bandits and teddy throwers.

    At least LieBore DO things, even if they are almost always wrong. AT least they have their own piece of blank paper. The Limp Dumbs don’t even have their own brain cells.

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    Casual Observer says:

    Adam Afriyie is not worth getting to bothered about.

    He appears to be a last ditch attempt to try and woo voters back to what was the Conservative party by appealing to political correct conditioning. Vote for him because of his ethnic group, and you are racist if you object in any way, legitimate or otherwise.

    Voters who have settled or are moving towards UKIP will in particular not be fooled and many core Conservative votes will likely be further alienated.

    This particular candidate will likely alienate the large ethnic vote which the Conservatives have gained, but which is non white. A popular fallacy is that it is only whites who are racist: Not many muzzies or !ndian’s would willingly vote for this guy for personal reasons.

    The Obama effect is a somewhat toxic ticket to attempt to ride as well. When you get past the fluff on that guys alleged delivery and look at the meat, there is very little substance indeed. A state of affairs which is doing for America that which has already been done here.

    Spinning the PC wheel to get a leader who will appeal based on a perception of worth largely based on guilt over not voting for an ethnic will do damage to the party and guarantee a loss.

    If his bid progresses one would expect to see more votes head UKIPs way.

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    Ali Gatorali says:

    can’t reproduce …..
    So where do they keep coming from, that’s what I want to know.

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    Going to hell in a handbasket says:

    What about ‘Chuckle Bunny’ Umunna?

    He is all of the above and therefore apparently going to be a shoe in for the next Liebour Prime Minister.

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    As I said – real life is more likely to be having to choose between two bad things.

    One finds it difficult talking clearly and thinking at all.

    The other finds it hard to, well…. oh bugger it, you know the rest.

  129. 129

    Still, better than RetardEd Militwat – his Dad must have been more proud of what ran down his wife’s leg the night he was conceived than of what he has turned into.
    Don’t make me laugh – he does it better.

  130. 130
    dangerous times says:

    yes, I watched the last five minutes and at the end was told to ‘go away’ by the host. I certainly will. Arrogant twat.

  131. 131
    Anonymous says:

    I see you refuse to wake up and smell the coffee and it is Tory people like you that will prevent Tory people like me from getting a real Tory government at the next election. How unintelligent of you to assume that Tory voters dare not criticise the Tory party and to assume that those who do are really labour voters.

    No doubt Tories like you will be sitting next to Ken Clarke on the Lab/Lib EU platform.

  132. 132
    Fishy says:

    Talking to yourself I’m afraid.

    It won’t be the righties who elect Cameron in 2015, it will be the swathes of British people who once again will again turn against a party divided against itself if this nonsense continues. People who don’t like what they perceive to be ‘extreme’ policies, won’t vote Tories.

    Of all of the political leaders, Cameron has (amongst ordinary people, not swivel eyed activists) the best approval rating. Stop this crap and get over it.

  133. 133
    Con Artists says:

    I agree with you apart from one teeny little niggle.

    CaMoron is a an utter lying cnut.

  134. 134
    Britain the ruined country says:

    Shooty (22) – well said, you are absolutely correct.

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    annoyed user says:

    It isn’t on at all, this is as big a steaming pile as Chuka Umuna having a chance of being “Labour’s Barak Obama”. The UK is not the USA, not even the Lib Dems would be stupid enought elect a leader from an ethnic minority.

    Dave will be laughing his head off at this so called “plot”

  136. 136
    Frederick Gideon Threepwood says:

    I believe Adam laid on the escorts at the dinner party.

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    VERITAS says:

    Anyon who supports Afriye must be mad,he is a total lightweight and was one of those MPS in the last Parliament who obstructed the expose into expense scandals to the end,he is also in favour of vast increases in the salaries of MPS in summary he is a tosser!

  138. 138
    VERITAS says:

    As Jim Royle would say shoe in my arse,not only is he an intellectual retard Labour would never get elected with him as Leader the USA this aint.

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    Ho hum says:

    or Firefox with Adblock. Works a treat and trebles the speed for reloading here.

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    Ho hum says:


  141. 141
    Ho hum says:

    Looks like the missed out the ‘r’ again.

  142. 142
    Ho hum says:

    Photogenic or pathogenic?

  143. 143
    Ho hum says:

    I do so hope he was comfortable then.

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    Going to hell in a handbasket says:

    What a relief!

  145. 145
    Westminster Gossip says:

    Hi Gonk,

    You obviously want a swivel-eye like Gove and that little man with a chip on his shoulder Fox and his ‘cels friend’ Verity in charge of the Tories. You must either be mad or your eyes are on the turn…

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    Swollen Glands says:

    and of course the UKIP vote split deprived the Conservatives of at least 20 seats and an absolute majority. Now Dave has effectively fallen out with both Farage and Clegg (or his replacement), which way is a Dave to turn, that turn of phrase suddenly drops the scales from my eyes – he’s replacing UKIP and LD supporters with the pink vote.

  147. 147
    tyjdtkj says:

    You can wash your hands after using the toilet as much as you want but they will only be as clean as the dirtiest bugger’s hand as you touch the door handle to leave.

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