December 14th, 2012

Browne Sugar
LibDem’s ‘Fact-Finding Mission’ to Amsterdam

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Coming out as pro-liberalisation if not pro-drugs legalisation, at least Nick Clegg is moving in the right direction this morning. There is much talk in Westminster, surely not rooted in jealously, of his announcement that Jeremy Browne will be sent on an all-expenses paid “fact-finding mission” to Amsterdam, Portugal and Latin America. The Home Office minister will be, ahem, researching the effects of liberal drugs policies in these countries. At least that’s what he is telling his boss…


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  1. 1
    Hank the Cat says:

    1st

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  2. 2
    Mary Jane says:

    High from Buenos Aires

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  3. 3
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    Pot smoking Liberals the lot of them .

    No back bone . No moral fibre .

    Fuck all use in a fist fight .

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  4. 4
    Hank the Cat says:

    Fact finding mission, there is such a beast called the internet, but then again the thieving troughing MP’s will kill for a freebie

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    • 12
      The taxpayer says:

      It is time these ridiculous MPs freebies were stopped. Any MP who wants to now about drugs can find out by talking to people in their own constituencies. Its the idea that their magic ‘presence’ that is required everywhere that astonishes me.

      Even the EU summit can take place using skype or similar.

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      • 19
        Alasdair Campbell Murderer says:

        +1

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      • 37
        Jan says:

        Any MP who wants to ‘know’ about drugs should trawl the council estates in London.Also go and visit some of the children’s charities like Kids Company which is a safe haven for many children.I’ve worked with young people whose parents are addicts.These kids were always the first at school (when they bothered to attend) and always smelly,hungry and tired.

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      • 66
        Rumpoy says:

        When my fucking PC can dispense wine while I am on Skype then I am in, until then forget it.

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      • 69
        Bollocks to Getting a Pseudonym says:

        All those political summits (especially the ones on climate change, or whatevcer it’s called today) can be held by using Skype or similar. You can bet private industry uses such technology, because they have to make sure all expenditure is necessary.

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    • 35
      Rasta Bob, your friendly supplier says:

      I already supply Downing Street by internet

      Then I get the Chief Whippie to hand deliver the stuff

      No one doubts him…

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  5. 5
    Ken Dodd's Dad's dog says:

    Good at hiding behind chairs and women’s skirts though.

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  6. 8
    LordWhiteAdder says:

    Nice work if you can get it. I’ll quite happily volunteer to go back to the ‘Dam for this factfinding mission at the taxpayers expense…

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    • 89
      Handycock Sex Tourist on Taxpayer's money. says:

      I am quite prepared to be the government representative on a fact finding mission to eastern Europe and Russia. Boaz.

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  7. 9
    Ken Dodd's Dad's dog says:

    I feel sorry for the Customs Officer who has to perform a rectal examination on you without having had a pay rise in three years.

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  8. 10

    On 6th November 2012 Colorado and Washington state legalised cannabis for adults!

    Are we so stupid in Britain that we cannot learn the lessons of history? If we prohibit something for which there is huge demand then the price rises and violent criminals become involved.

    If we introduced a legally regulated system we would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, prescription medicines and all other recreational drugs. The evidence is that where legal regulation is introduced, consumption by children and all health and social harms are reduced.

    Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an illegal monopoly on cannabis so they make millions out of a medicine that you can grow in your greenhouse for virtually nothing.

    Independent, expert research also indicates that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion pa.

    Our present policy on cannabis is irrational, irresponsible and dangerous. Surely, this inevitable and long overdue reform will now begin to roll out across the world?

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    • 28
      Sensible Person says:

      Because there are no widely available methods of detecting drug intoxication and we do not want our roads filled with stoned loonies. Some devices are beginning to be produced, but they still are not reliable, and not in widespread use. Same applies to multiple variants of pills.

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      • 80
        WobblyJim says:

        No. 28 says:

        “Because there are no widely available methods of detecting drug intoxication and we do not want our roads filled with stoned loonies.”

        The legal status of dope will not address your two concerns.

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    • 73
      Legal Eagle says:

      In Colorado / Washington state, whilst legal under state law, it is still illegal under Federal law.

      There is a strict limit on the amount that can be in possession of an adult (21 years and over) and there are strict restriction on where you can possess and consume, for instance it is illegal to consume on the street.

      You probably do not want to consume or possess at home if you have children as you may be open to child abuse charges.

      There are means of detection: Urine / Blood samples, and a saliva test is being developed. The problem for DUI determination is that the thresholds for ‘intoxication’ have not been determined. In the US, many medical users who are perfectly safe behind the wheel despite blood saturation, have found themselves fall foul of this during routine stops. Prosecutors usually go lenient when the full facts are in.

      Cannabis is not completely harmless and has been shown to be a more potent carcinogen than tobacco, and seems to be a risk factor for schizophrenia and other psychotic conditions developing in people exposed at least before age 18. The issue of exposure to children is the most important.

      The real long term health effects have not been studied, however the case for medicinal use has been established.

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  9. 13
    Alasdair Campbell Murderer says:

    Couldn’t he just send an email to our embassies? Wouldn’t that be the eco-friendly deficit reducing thing to do?

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  10. 17
    Hank the Cat says:

    Came across this

    £3,525 Keith Vaz’s claim for 42,000 calendars
    £650 Venetian blinds for Taunton MP Jeremy Browne

    And it turns out That Jeremy Browne is a sex pest

    http://wspostnews.blogspot.co.uk/2007/11/mp-pesters-teenage-woman-over-internet.html

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  11. 20
    How did this slip under Guido's radar? says:

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    • 31
      Fuck the LibLabCon says:

      Arr yes some realpolitik for once, I see they’ve yet to adopt the Western model of being two cheeks of the same arse and shitting all over the public.

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    • 34
      I d on't nee d no doctor says:

      Imagine what they would do to Ed Balls.

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  12. 21
    Margaret Moran says:

    Ha ha! I got away with it! You fools all paid for my dry rot repairs!! That’s why I love Labour! Tee-hee!

    I’m off down the pub. Later, you mugs!

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  13. 24
    Holland Watch says:

    Some other facts about Netherlands:

    US State Dept: The Netherlands is a source, destination, and transit country for men, women, and children subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically forced prostitution and forced labor.

    U.S. Helsinki Commission chairman Chris Smith recently testified at a hearing entitled: ‘Listening to Victims of Child Sex Trafficking’ that: Joris Demmink, former secretary-general of the Dutch Ministry of Security and Justice, has been accused by witnesses in Amsterdam and Turkey of sexually abusing boys aged 11-15.

    In light of various child protection investigations ongoing in the UK, there could be other facts being looked at here.

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  14. 27
    Hansard writer says:

    He must be an Orange Booker with hair like that

    I am always have my doubts about these orange people…

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  15. 30
    Will Selfcentred says:

    I’ll go too because I am such an authority on drugs. Did I ever tell you about my drug taking in the past….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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    • 36
      The droning voice of the so called intellectual left and loved by the BBC says:

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      • 43
        Drug Watch says:

        The first one on there was not really the effects of use, but the effects of manufacture gone wrong. The woman is a burns victim who got caught out when her meth lab exploded. Not sure about the prevalence of meth amphetamine in UK, but definitely one to avoid.

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      • 93
        JH284661651665 says:

        Sort of on topic, if you get the chance watch ‘Breaking Bad’. Best TV since the Sopranos, better than The Wire.

        I speak as one who usually studiously avoids TV.

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    • 38
      I d on't nee d no doctor says:

      I saw Will Self on QT last night, well for about two minutes before turning off. He is just a jumped up prick with a big gob. He should be fitted with a dog shit moustache.
      QT really is just for socialist liberal ethnic is best arsewipes.

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      • 82
        Anonymous says:

        when you normalise something,,,,it becomes normal.
        some wierd stuff
        going
        on

        who
        benefits. follow the benefit.=
        =
        ben,e,fit, he certainly fit. the ben,e,fit trail. the lives of some are easy. look up as well as down. war on earth.
        terror apparently facing the sky,
        nothing possible without calm.
        calm those who terrify.
        they in da way. the world is upndwn. the truth is not, like thetruth seek still.ness. truth is beyond the paywall,
        pay the price. some effort required. build a fortress so effort possible.

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          Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

          The facial expressions of Peter Hitchens reminded of my best mate at school who also had the same opinions. He was diagnosed as a schizo at 17.

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  16. 33
    I d on't nee d no doctor says:

    Never to be seen again.

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  17. 40
    Jack says:

    This guy went to Bedales School

    It was full of drugs years ago I seem to remember

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  18. 41
    Lady Gaga's talent manager says:

    Why do I get persecuted for smoking c i g a r e t t e s

    And encouraged to spoke h a s h?

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  19. 46
    I d on't nee d no doctor says:

    Racist Miliband is currently talking bollocks on BBC News 24.
    If people have to be able to speak english for certain jobs, does that include dumb people as well? Miliband is anti-dumb people.

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    • 88
      Kwizling says:

      ..only if they are white, middle aged and English. Exceptions will be made for all others [insert usual list here].

      Let’s face it, he is simply dumb from top to bottom.

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    I always knew Grant is a nasty c-unt says:

    Hugh Grant will never be asked back onto Jon Stewart’s ‘The Daily Show’, after he was reportedly rude to staff. The US TV host also branded the British actor ‘a big pain in the ass’.

    Stewart was speaking at a fundraiser for the Montclair Film Festival in New Jersey when he revealed his disdain for Grant. “He’s giving everyone shit the whole time, and he’s a big pain in the ass. And we’ve had dictators
    on the show,” he said.

    Stewart also revealed Grant’s displeasure at the clip they showed of his film ‘Did You Hear About The Morgans?’ during their interview. Grant reportedly said: “What is that clip? It’s a terrible clip,” to which Stewart quickly shot back: “Well, then make a better fucking movie.”

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  21. 49
    I d on't nee d no doctor says:

    On yesterday’s Daily Politics brillo showed Caroline Lucas up big time. Where are the pipelines Caroline? And while we are on the Green theme, how do you travel around, and how is your house and office heated and lit. Pedal power is it?

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  22. 57
    Hash Tag says:

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  23. 61
    Jeremy Browne says:

    Guido, you have to be toking right?

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  24. 62
    Nick Griffin says:

    ♬ I’m dreaming of a white Christmas ♬ ♪ just like the ones we used to know ♪

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  25. 63
    Pig Meat Pork says:

    Telegraph: Margaret Moran expenses sentencing: ‘Some may think she has got away with it,’ says judge A judge admitted today that Margaret Moran, the former Labour MP, may be perceived to have “got away” with fiddling her expenses by avoiding a criminal conviction and jail.

    “The findings of the court were not convictions. Those findings enable me to make orders requiring her to undergo treatment for her mental health.”

    I AM ONE OF THOSE WHO THINKS SHE HAS GOT AWAY WITH IT

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  26. 68
    Ed Millibland Speech Executive Summary Service says:

    VOTE FOR ME.

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  27. 77
    the poor bloody taxpayer says:

    hash brown anyone?

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  28. 78
    the flower-pot man says:

    fancy a Little Weed?

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  29. 84
    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Will they be received by Dilma, Cristina and Hugo?

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  30. 91
    keredybretsa says:

    Ohhhhhh! Baby this is quality stuff. I am flying high in my Porky Pie world.

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  31. 92
    An Edinburgh junkie says:

    If he wants to know the effects of drugs, he should talk to some of the homeless and visit prisons.

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  32. 96
    an imartial observer says:

    Bloody hell! Are those weed prices for real? Shirly not? Time to load the van with Alpujarra Gold & drive north, methinks.

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  33. 99
    TGF UKIP says:

    Yes, but when does Huhne go to jail?

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