December 6th, 2012

Ice To See You, To See You Ice

Good news. It seems the glaciers are not melting. Eco-loons had predicted glaciers in the Himalayas would be gone by 2035, but with 100cm of fresh snowfall in November, the Times of India reports that “the abundance of snow on the mountains has rejuvenated nearly one thousand glaciers in the Himalayas. 

“While scanty snowfall and rising temperature in last decade had sparked the possibilities of fast shrinking of glaciers, good spells of snowfall in last three years have changed the trend with glaciers almost growing to their original size.”

It’s over! Rejoice!


193 Comments

  1. 1
    Snow Man says:

    First

  2. 2
    Just saying says:

    No vested interest there!

  3. 3
    Kebab Time says:

    Is that picture suitable for a “family Blog” ? ;)

  4. 4
    ancientpopeye says:

    And I’m over the moon to know I didn’t really cause it.
    When are the lying politicians going to repay me the taxes that have been taken from me for causing it?

  5. 5
    The Sleeper says:

    Is that a picture of your lunchtime antics,Fawkes?

  6. 6
    Larry Grayson-Perry says:

    How old is she?

  7. 7
    Al Gore says:

    Second

  8. 8
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Can we have a rebate?

    And are all the hate-filled warmists going to apologise and cough up.

  9. 9
    Fantasy says:

    Yes, that’s right, keep consuming and consuming and plundering the world’s resources.

  10. 10
    Over to Pesto says:

    As predicted by the Express three months ago.

  11. 11
    I value my iPad more than the environment says:

    Cool – so we can now cancel carbon tax, donations to eco-fraud outfits, the Green party and complain if people don’t wash or get in the way with their bikes ? Sweet.

  12. 12
    Hank the Cat says:

    Yes but was it the right kind of snow if it wasn’ it does not count

  13. 13
    tallbloke says:

    Rejoice? I thought it was nice while it lasted… ;)

  14. 14
    Old Bailey reporter says:

    It was a bit chillly in the Old Bailey today

    Funny that….

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/06/andy-coulson-rebekah-brooks

  15. 15
    bergen says:

    I look forward to the report of this important news on the BBC and , especially, a feature by Roger Harrabin on Today.

    And in other news a pig flew….

  16. 16
    Jimmy says:

    It was never about science, it was about taking the world forward to progressive values, re-distribution and penance for the Wests crimes against humanity.

  17. 17
    Estufa says:

    They’re melting in Switzerland. A Swiss friend tells me that the permafrost is melting and whole hillsides are crashing down into the valleys.

    I suspect that global warming is causing the monsoon to be more intense, causing extra snowfall at high altitudes in India. But I’m no expert, as I suspect nobody else is on here either.

  18. 18
    Maggie Snatcher says:

    Rejoice! What’s my name again? Rejoice! Woop!

  19. 19
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Just finished Delingpoles Watermelons – fantastic read & exposes this cult of eco Taliban authoritarians for what they are.

  20. 20
    Tory voter says:

    Sadly, global warming is not over.

    Whether or not you think it’s man-made is your own judgement. However, the fact is that the climate is gradually warming and a good amount of snow on the highest mountain range in the world doesn’t change that.

    Note that, for example, Arctic ice is becoming so little that the Russians are expecting to open a seaway there, vastly reducing shipping time and distance for them.

  21. 21
    kebabmon says:

    Is Guido stating, through fact based journalism, that the average temperature of this planet (Earth for those that don’t know) hasn’t risen over the last 100 years?

  22. 22
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Not funny enough to be Jimmy. Mind you, spot on analysis.

  23. 23
    Tim Yeo says:

    ROTFL

  24. 24
    Jonno List says:

    Once again Guido shows just how thick he and his readers are.

  25. 25
    Hate filled? says:

    Don’t make me laugh. No one’s more hate filled than the right. Blacks, gays, the poor, the disabled, women, the list goes on.

  26. 26
    Greenpiss says:

    ‘Good news’ to me is when I read the earth is on the verge of destruction.
    Is that perverted?

  27. 27
    FFS Egypt was once green and fertile says:

    and your point?

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    Now they will say its snowing because of global worming!

    It is also true ice is melting in north pole (as it had happened after the ice age) but know one talk about increasing ice in the south pole.

  29. 29
  30. 30

    Don’t be silly, Guido. The greenies aren’t going to let a little thing like facts derail their gravy train. Not while they have hoons like Cameron, Millipede and Clegg on their side.

  31. 31
    Make his a triple says:

    What else do you expect from a fat mick with a droopy eye and two DUI convictions?

  32. 32
    Polar Bear says:

    Yiiiiippppppppeeeeeeee!!!

  33. 33
    digitaltoast says:

    Hmmm, scientifically unqualified blogger says:

    “Global warming is over. It seems the glaciers are not melting”

    article blogger links to says:

    “The 11-km-long Bara Shigri is the largest glacier in Himachal, but is shrinking very fast. The Dhaka glacier in Chandrabhaga mountain ranges is also losing its length, width and height. This was proved beyond doubt when wreckage of an AN-12 aircraft which remained beneath the glacier since 1968 recently surfaced due to melting of snow.

    According to Kuniyal, changing pattern of weather, which is causing extreme weather conditions and shifting of the seasons, is a matter of concern. “Snowfall is good but heavy snowfall in lower and new areas and scanty snowfall on higher areas is sign of global warming. For now, regular spells of snowfall are good for vegetation and hydel projects as there would be enough moisture and water in summer months.”

    .

    Awkard. Whether to trust the words of “a senior scientist with GB Pant Institute of Himalayan Environment and Development, who has been studying the behaviour of Himalayan environment for many years”, blogger with no relevant qualifications.

    Tricky, eh?

  34. 34
    Getting tired of crooks says:

    Wiki…

    “Clifford is regarded as being one of the shrewdest practitioners of his trade, and in July 2005 he told reporters that he would not represent Michael Jackson after he was found innocent of child abuse charges….”

    Who will represent him is the question?!

  35. 35
    Anonymous says:

    a family bog.

  36. 36
    Fred Loads says:

    I’m fed up with this cold already. Spent most of the day breaking up the frozen garden.

  37. 37
    George Monbiot, pants on fire says:

    The evidence is in, the science is settled, the matter is now beyond debate: I’m definitely a c_u_n_t.

  38. 38
    FFS Egypt was once green and fertile says:

    What do you make of the fact that you are one of the readers and QED thick?

  39. 39
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Eco-loon, the earth has been in a permanent state of flux since its inception – climate has never been a static entity, constantly evolving.

    This brief period of stability that has allowed mankind & life on earth to prosper is a mere fraction of a micron of a slither of an epoc were life is sustainable.

    The conditions on Earth will change because they always have changed.

    The King Canutes who want to “stabilise” the climate are disengenuous at best, absolutely corrupt at worst.

    Repeal the Climate Change Act – call it the Repeal the Ed Miliband Eco-loon Bill.

  40. 40
    Steve Miliband says:

    The post is nothing top do with the subject – they justed wanted to show off their picture

  41. 41
    Mayanostradamus says:

    Only 16 days to go.

  42. 42
    Arctic Fox says:

    This is the best sea ice page on t’internet.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/

  43. 43
    Steve Miliband says:

    I stop reading as soon as I see ‘progressive’

  44. 44
    Fatty Fawks says:

    Trust me! Hic. I’ll have another, barman.

  45. 45
    Peter Hitchens says:

    Who the fuck invited George Monbiot to the discussion? All that twat does is insult you, like that arse-face, Russell Brand.

    C_u_n_t.

    Anyway, as I’ve been saying on my blog for years, global warming is a pile of shite. You idiots need to keep up.

    Really, you’ve got to read Enid Blyton to properly understand it all and appreciate how the winter light catches Ed Milliband’s arse.

  46. 46
    It takes one to know one says:

    Well said comrade!

  47. 47
    Pierced Organ says:

    I may make it without arrest eh?

  48. 48
    Wiki and Max and Jail says:

    This is amusing as well

    wiki

    ” Later that week Clifford was accused of arranging a distraction from the assault made by his friend Rebekah Wade on her husband, EastEnders actor Ross Kemp, via the “coincidence” of the other “Mitchell brother….”

    So today, 6 December 2012, “his frined” Rebekah appears at the Old Bailey and Max gets arrested

    You could not make it up

    Could not have happened to a nivcer chap…and all that

  49. 49
    Greenpiss says:

    I’ll take trying to reduce Britain’s carbon footprint seriously when I see the Green’s and Liblacons limit the amount of carbon consuming immigrants they let in.

  50. 50
    The verdict on global warming says:

  51. 51
    Amazon says:

    There is a good product here that will help what you mention in your first line.

  52. 52
    Jonno List says:

    Oh you got me! You smarty pants!

  53. 53
    Labour Websters Dictionary says:

    Progressive

    Alt

    regressive

  54. 54
    Get yer wellies on says:

    The time to start really worrying is when landborne ice melts. Sea ice melting isn’t going to drown London.
    However:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_ice_sheet#The_melting_ice_sheet

  55. 55

    Professor Phil Jones formerly of the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit now reviews Treasury statements and policy for Ed Balls

    From Omniscient to OmnishamBalls

  56. 56
    bergen says:

    There has always been a summer seaway north-about Russia.Look up the voyage of German Raider Komet in 1940 when it sailed through these waters to reach the Pacific.

  57. 57
    Yes...but says:

    ‘As PERMOS’ systematic monitoring commenced in 2000, most of our data cover around a decade, whereas for robust statements about trends in climate science typically a 30-year period is considered,” Nötzli points out. “However,” the researcher adds, “much of our data points to permafrost degradation. For example, in the past three years active layer depths in summer have increased with new record values at many of the observed sites.”*

    Record values over 12 years…before that no record of ie insufficient data to know anything!

    It points to but does not evidence.

    Significant choice of words.

  58. 58
    Jonno List says:

    Sandra, stick to the accounting.

  59. 59
    Arse says:

    Not so fast Fawkes. 3 years does not make a long-term trend. Our model predictions show there will be no glaciers at all by the year 4,200,845,421 +/- 22 minutes. This is coincidental with and completely unrelated to the Sun expanding to the size of a Red Giant and destroying the Earth.

    Our models prove it.

  60. 60
    Anonymous says:

    This hardly helps challenge the consensus around climate change, does it?

  61. 61
    Kate is fit and fine, nice to seeee says:

    Ollie Reed, winter then summer

  62. 62
    ancientpopeye says:

    Yeah, we used to call them ice-ages at school, that is years ago when we were really taught, by real teachers.
    They come and go and so it will always be.
    Re the shipping channels, Bigger ice-breakers?

  63. 63
    Yes...but says:

    and bio-diversity is equipped to deal with much more than the fluctuations we are and will experience in decades to come

  64. 64
    Spelling it out slowly says:

    Did you take out any PPI on global warming , you could be owed thousands .

  65. 65
    Yes...but says:

    No…because it has…but nothing worth noting for 16 years now

  66. 66
    Greg says:

    It’s risen over the last 200 years, since the end of the little ice age

  67. 67
    Steve Miliband says:

    Why do the BBC allow famous stars to promote their latest products on all their shows? I’ve got stuff to sell, am I allowed on Radio 2 if I say a few scripted jokes?

  68. 68
    Stephen S says:

    I didn’t see any reference to temperature in the article. I only saw something about increased precipitation, which all climate models for global warming have been predicting over the last couple of decades.

    In actual fact, if anybody bothered to read the TOI article, nowhere do the scientists on whose research the article is based make any attempt to refute global warming, though we do have this quote which Guido has obviously overlooked:-

    “”Global warming is a contentious issue but it’s a reality,” said J C Kuniyal, senior scientist with GB Pant Institute of Himalayan Environment and Development, who is studying the behaviour of Himalayan environment for many years. “It’s good that our receding glaciers are receiving good amount of snow. Glaciers not only play an important role in balancing life of flora and fauna, but presence of snow on mountains also helps in balancing the temperature. Snowfall would give new life to underground water sources,” he said.”

    Global warming is still a scientific reality, even if it doesn’t fit your political ideology.

  69. 69
    EdMiliband says:

    I need an enquiry so that a Judge can decide my policy on this.

  70. 70
  71. 71
    Jonno List says:

    Oh lol, were you really expecting that to happen when you saw this story on the front page?

  72. 72
    118118 says:

    Directory enquiry?

  73. 73
    Keith AB says:

    With a huge nuclear Ice Breaker up front . . 50 Let Pobedy I think.

  74. 74
    The BBC says:

    Go on then!

  75. 75
    Jonno List says:

    Excellent scienceing old chap. You’ve totally scienced the shit out of this.

  76. 76
    somebody says:

    http://www.dw.de/study-polar-ice-caps-melting-gets-faster/a-16432199

    “The polar ice has melted faster in the last 20 years than in the past 10,000. A comprehensive satellite study confirms that the melting ice caps are raising sea levels at an accelerating rate. “

  77. 77
    I don't nee d no doctor says:

    What about the item I’ve got for sale on ebay. Can I have an invite for the One Show, or maybe the Breakfast Show?

  78. 78
    Quick says:

    Don’t forget the muzzies

  79. 79
    Jonno List says:

    Wow 16 years! If you shrink your observation period short enough you can show that today was colder than yesterday. Fuck you hippies I just proved global warming is made up!

  80. 80
    somebody says:

    “The polar ice has melted faster in the last 20 years than in the past 10,000. A comprehensive satellite study confirms that the melting ice caps are raising sea levels at an accelerating rate. ”

    http://www.dw.de/study-polar-ice-caps-melting-gets-faster/a-16432199

  81. 81
    Mr BumBum says:

    Haven’t the nonces suffered enough?

  82. 82
    Closest Star to Uranus says:

    stupid twat, theres been a sea lane in the artic for the last 100 years or so

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/09/thinning-arctic-ice-more-al-gore-aided-and-abetted-misinformation/

  83. 83
    Kate is fit and fine, nice to seeee says:

    good for the leeks, say no more, and the turmips too may I addm but I suppose I am baffling some with arable farming, let alone common gardening…

  84. 84
    Sally Berkowicz says:

    How’s it looking down under?

  85. 85
    Senile old person about to croak says:

    Do I get a free pen just for applying?

  86. 86
    Swiss Bob says:

    Yeah, but they’re also uncovering villages swallowed up a few hundred years ago, so they come and go, come and go etc

  87. 87
    AGW is a man made scam says:

    The eco-fcukwits will continue regardless of all evidence especially the BBC.
    Facts mean sod all to the religious lunatics that punted this stuff out and what’s more, admitting it isn’t happening would mean the Government having to cut all green taxes and then there’d be a clamour for a refund.
    So it’ll never be over.

  88. 88
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  90. 90
    Nick Clegg says:

    Praise Gaia

  91. 91
    Marques de Rey says:

    It never began.

  92. 92
    I don't nee d no doctor says:

    The problem is we have too many experts with their own agendas, and too many lobbyists talking to governments.

  93. 93
    Darwinian says:

    Warm, wet, and sticky.

  94. 94
    Anonymous says:

    If the aircraft has been covered by ice since it crashed in 1968 then clearly the glacier has been thicker at that point for the last 40 years or so – despite increased CO2 levels and slight global warming for part of that time. If it has recently receded back to 1968 levels what does that prove exactly?

  95. 95
    Does this make me naughty? says:

    The man said it has been going on for three years,so it must be OK.

  96. 96
    AGW is a man made scam says:

    We’re currently in the middle of an ice age – be grateful that it’s getting warmer.

  97. 97
    Swiss Bob says:

    Very disingenuous of you. the fifteen years without global warming was a figure some charlatan climate scientist came up with, which he stated was the period of no warming required to falsify their pathetic hypothesis.

    Twat.

  98. 98
    Its the t'internet silly says:

    Front page? don’t all articles appear on the front page?

  99. 99
    AGW is a man made scam says:

    Global warming is a reality.
    Man-made global warming is monkey spunk science.

  100. 100
  101. 101
    I don't nee d no doctor says:

    What method of utilities and transport does Caroline Lucas MP use. Does she walk everywhere? Does she use a renewable energy source at home?

  102. 102
    digitaltoast says:

    Confusing scary sciency bit for Anonymous:

    Glaciers move.

  103. 103
    G'day from Australia says:

    Wrong!

  104. 104
    Snow Balls says:

    All that snow around at the moment – makes it look like we are heading rapidly to the next one

  105. 105
    Swiss Bob says:

    Spitting crap out of the end of glaciers is what they do, FA to do with ‘global warming’.

  106. 106
    I don't nee d no doctor says:

    Is that what your union paymaster told you to say?

  107. 107
    AGW is a man made scam says:

    Apologies, I should have said ‘climate change is a reality’.

  108. 108
    A Worm says:

    More importantly is she bio-degradeable?

  109. 109
    Snow Balls says:

    It must have been a submarine capable aircraft? If not, how did it get under the ice?

  110. 110
    Stupid Cnut says:

    The Earth is flat, and has infinite resources. Therefore we can let the population expand and have economic growth every year for ever.

    P.S. Anybody know who makes bigger buckets. My head’s got stuck in this one.

  111. 111
    Qqqq says:

    You are Ed Balls and I claim my 5 free pairs of thermal socks

  112. 112
    Bob Shouty Ward says:

    YOU TELL THEM, THOSE EVIL DENIERS WILL NOT BE HAPPY UNTIL WE ALL BURN!

  113. 113
    AGW is a man made scam says:

    Anybody asked her what she does with the carbon dioxide, methane and water vapour she produces?

  114. 114
    Not a BBC employee says: says:

    NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
    Think of our pensions ..sobs…

  115. 115
    Snowy Balls says:

    Hoorah!

  116. 116
    somebody says:

    Facts like this?

    “Despite this rapid growth, ice extent remains far below normal as we begin November. Average ice extent for October was 7.00 million square kilometers (2.70 million square miles). This is the second lowest in the satellite record, 230,000 square kilometers (88,800 square miles) above the 2007 record for the month. However, it is 2.29 million square kilometers (884,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average.”

    If you think this if from some eco-fcukwit site you could be right.

    It is from this:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/11/06/sea-ice-news-volume-3-15-arctic-sea-ice-doubles-in-october/

  117. 117
    Synic says:

    We are like goldfish, shitting in the goldfish bowl that we are trapped in.

    Mother Nature will solve the problem of our gross exploitation of the planet by letting loose a nasty virus. We will then fly it around the globe within 24 hours. Rats and cockroaches etc. will take over and perhaps do a better job than we have.

  118. 118

    I’m actually quite keen on women.

  119. 119
    Muffled Squeaker says:

    Can’t see or hear you very well. These great flappy things are right over my head.

  120. 120
    Anonymous says:

    Don’t you think it’s time that a real expert is produced? You know, one that can explain, in the context of global warming, farming by the Vikings on Greenland for 450 to 500 years only ending in about 1450? Or one that can explain the medieval warm period 950 to 1250? How about one that can explain ice fairs on the Thames in the little ice age 1550 to 1850? These are so well known I have not bothered putting references to them. Here’s a lesser known one, The Artic has melted before in the 1920s… http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/16/you-ask-i-provide-november-2nd-1922-arctic-ocean-getting-warm-seals-vanish-and-icebergs-melt/ It’s been quoted on this blog before and has extracts from the Washington Post in 1922. Now, I know there are lots of ‘scientists’ who BELIVE in man-made global warming, but before you go spend MY kids inheritance on ameliorating the risk, could someone please show that this IS actually more than the equivalent of the establishment of the church of England. That is you have to ‘believe’ before you can be in a position of power.

  121. 121
    Paddy Power says:

    Dear Lord

    This has been a tough two or three years.

    You have taken my favourite actor Patrick Swayze.

    My favourite musician Michael Jackson.

    My favourite Blues Singer Amy Winehouse.

    My favourite actress Elizabeth Taylor.

    And now my favourite singer Whitney Houston.

    I just wanted you to know that my favourite politicians are
    David Cameron, Nick Clegg, Jack Straw, The Milliband’s, Ed Balls, Alex Salmond and John Bercow

  122. 122
    Mr BumBum says:

    “Rats and cockroaches etc. will take over”.

    Take a look at the House of Commons – they already have.

  123. 123
    Ed Dopey Davey says:

    Don’t you all realise it’s climate change nowadays, not global warming. Any bad weather will give us a chance to tax you until all your pips squeak

  124. 124
    Malthus says:

    Hello – I’m back! I never really went away…

  125. 125
    Red Ed Miliband says:

    REJOICE?

    YOU WILL BE FLOGGED IN THE PEOPLE’S SQUARE FOR THIS!

    GLOBAL WARMING HASN’T STOPPED!

    AN EXTRA RATION OF TURNIP SOUP FOR EVERYONE THAT DENOUNCES THIS COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARY!

    ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY ALL-POWERFUL, ALL-SEEING, WISE STATE!

    REJOICE!

  126. 126
    A poor, black, lesbian says:

    Cyclists. Velonazis. They’re the new poor, black, disabled homosexuals. They want want we had. Loads of recognition and privileges. Except – they want to break the law, too.

  127. 127
    Tone an' Gorgon says:

    Why aren’t we favourites of yours as well Paddy. Is it because we’re soooo Yesterday?

  128. 128
    AGW is a man made scam says:

    If you can tie that to man’s behaviour then you will have done what no other scientist has managed so far.

    As I’ve said before, climate change is natural whereas man-made climate change is nonsense.

  129. 129
    Winnie the Pooh says:

  130. 130
    Roger The lodger says:

    The beeb constantly plug their own shows on TV & radio saying that it’s “program information”. It isn’t. It’s ADVERTISING. Which pisses me off, obviously.

  131. 131
    Anonymous says:

    we are trapped in a rubbish triangle of false feelings, false goals, and false gods.

    just step out of it,

  132. 132
    Roger The lodger says:

    Oh, and they even manage to fit them into news bulletins if it has any topical content.

  133. 133
    Viscount Rothermere says:

    This sort of post brings everything else on the site into disrepute. It’d be like Mervyn King interrupting one of his own sobering calls on banking culture to say “Oh yeah, and that Queen? SHE’S A FUCKING LIZARD.”

    Guido’s shown his hand, and it’s Queen and King of Bullshit.

  134. 134
    Daniel says:

    However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.

    “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html

    20 March 2000

    W*nkers!

  135. 135
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Of course when they say they would wear a mask they are clearly lying.

    A good spoof but a more relevant set of questions would be how much are they all being paid, wages and exe’s, and who by?

  136. 136
    marcmarc says:

    What has that got to do with global warming,or is there something the greenies do not want us to know.

  137. 137
    marcmarc says:

    Make your bloody mind up,less snow in the Himlayas because of global warming,more snow in the Himalayas because of global bloody warming,good effin grief you people bend with the wind.

  138. 138
    marcmarc says:

    What the same shipping lanes that were open in the 1930’s.

  139. 139
    The fundamental error of the Left says:

    They are the same “King Canutes” who want to ” stabilise” the economy ie no more boom and bust. The fact is life the universe and everything is in a state of constant flux and it adaptation to change which brings progress and prosperity.
    Cradle to grave security is BAD for us.

  140. 140
    The fundamental error of the Left says:

    Mervyn King was a lickspital

  141. 141
    PooBare says:

    Truth be told, I’m a cripple and have been so for63years. Not filled with hate.

  142. 142
    PooBare says:

    Wonderful. Bring it on. I won’t be around.

  143. 143
    Fishy says:

    Is that the John Lewis snowman? Didn’t hang around did he?

  144. 144
    Rich Geoengineer says:

    Global DIMming…..
    A ha ha….
    A ha ha…….

  145. 145
    Jimmy says:

    That’s Guy News for today, now over to Neo for tomorrow’s Climate.

  146. 146
    ecotards R us says:

    From a paltry 30yr record the eco retards believe they can discern a long term trend? Yeah as if, news flash sea ice goes up and down according to natural cycles just as it goes up and down in the summer. In the olden days of sail and wooden ships and salty old sea dogs they would time their exploration of the far North to coincide with the low cycles.

    WUWT is the most popular science website in the world. Now if you want to visit a real ecotard whack job pseudo science joke then visit sceptical science or desmog blog, nobody else does so you might be a little lonely but the odd, and I do mean odd whack job cultist does turn up.

  147. 147
    Tory voter says:

    Of course climate varies and always has. That’s well-established.

    The issue is when people assume that the current warming won’t be a problem. De-glaciation of the polar regions will ultimately flood many coastal settlements. Severe storms are becoming more common and the consequences are therefore worse. Crops are failing more often. Rains, excessive in some places, is becoming much scarcer in others.

    Whether you believe these changes are man-made is almost irrelevant. What matters is how to plan for the future to minimise the impact on society.

  148. 148
    ecotards R us says:

    Desperate stuff indeed, global warming ended 16yrs ago or did you not get the memo? So global warming is not a scientific reality at all, talking out of your arse minus the facts I think. And the IPCC did in fact allow unqualified activists to introduce a scare story about the glaciers melting away in a few years. The global warming models can and have been rigged to give any answer required and they have all been proven wrong. When you cultists are finally forced to confront the fact that CAGW was a complete fraud your heads will explode and we sceptics will be there to laugh at you.

  149. 149
    lojolondon says:

    Well, full marks to the Times of India for discovering the excellent news that global warming has been reversed and we have all been saved. I wonder what happened to our magnificent reporters in the BBC – focused on the universal threat of global warming as they are, surely such a moment didn’t just pass them by?

  150. 150
    ecotards R us says:

    Trust the word of someone who has made a mint out of the grant money tsunami for years? Would you take the word of someone who has a direct financial stake in peddling the line that protects their funding stream? If a paid scientist told you to jump off a cliff would you look first or simply trust them? Its all about trust, your sort have been taken for the mother of all rides, one born every minute and always those sharpsters ready to take the piss and the cash.

    That was how the CAGW scam got so big, too much grant cash at stake to do anything other than say the right words to keep the cash flowing. If you think all scientists are saints you are in for a rude awakening, most researchers would sell their grannies for grants. Scientists come out of uni and from the start their career is one long soul destroying hunt for the next grant cheque and those who sit up and beg and say the right words get the cash.

  151. 151
    Marion the cat says:

    ‘plane crashed, a glacier formed over it and has now retreated. Now does that mean that the glacier conducive weather has come and then gone?. Hmmm. Wish I was a scientist, then I guess I could spin that like the unfortunate ‘plane.

  152. 152
    Brent Fraser says:

    I think that somebody may be getting confused between weather and climate here…

  153. 153
    Alex says:

    So funny the way you and all the other cretins accuse those who disagree with you politically of so many isms.

    Prejudice comes from all sides of the political fence, and it’s pathetic the way you and your ilk try to claim otherwise.

  154. 154
    Arse says:

    How can polar ice melt be increasing sea level when it’s fucking ice and it fucking floats and when it melts it doesn’t raise the level of the fucking water?

    Now if you were talking about water on land masses melting, like Antarctica, that would be different. But Antarctic ice is increasing, like you know, FUCKING HUGELY.

    In my view you’re talking out of your butt hole.

  155. 155
    Nogbad the Bad says:

    The Arctic glaciers are in the sea, and melting them won’t raise sea levels at all, see Achimedes Principle. At the other pole, the amount of glacial ice is increasing and is locking in more water, not less.

    The predicted rise in sea levels is calculated from the expansion of all sea water due to predicted temperature rises. For this to happen the average global sea temperature would need to rise, rather than some getting warmer and some cooler which has no effect on the average.

    The rest of your post lists events that have always occurred from long before humans existed. These events will be catastrophic to more people simply because there are more people.

    If you want a really bad scenario, try global food wars due to shortages created by a combination of fungicide resistance, floods and droughts coupled to the ever increasing world population.

  156. 156
    Nogbad the Bad says:

    So, they carried our detailed analysis of 10,000 years of satellite data, and found that the most rapid melt occurred in the last 20 years. Who but a fool could argue against such convincing evidence.

  157. 157
    David B says:

    Don’t worry it can be ignored.

  158. 158
    Greengrocer says:

    Captain Fantasy of course does not consume.

    He does not use energy for light or warmth, neither does he drink, eat, clothe or shoe himself.

    He does not travel except by foot and has no furniture. He sits on the bare floor with his bare arse.

    He does have the internet though, and some electrical device with which to access it, and the energy to do so. Funny that.

    Mr Fantasy is a watermelon. Green on the outside, red on the inside.

  159. 159
    Stop warmist propaganda now says:

    “the fact is that the climate is gradually warming”

    That is a warmist fiction, not a fact. The climate has not warmed for the last 16 years.

  160. 160
    NE Frontiersman says:

    The nature of Delingpole’s expertise being what, precisely?

  161. 161
    Jimmy says:

    I would never have missed the apostrophe.

  162. 162
    A bit late but.. says:

    Chuckus Yamoney says:
    December 6, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    Professor Phil Jones formerly of the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit now reviews Treasury statements and policy for Ed Balls

    From Omniscient to OmnishamBalls

    So, I just hope he is now using the correct AlGoreithm

  163. 163
    ibrahim says:

    article says that in the title but offers no evidence in the text.

    a common issue with some scientists – have some evidence (satellite data says ice is melting) and come out with a ludicrous press statement (faster than in the last 10,000 years)

    research group funding is partially based on ‘outreach’, of which extreme press statements are a part

  164. 164
    ibrahim says:

    wrong. things that land on glaciers (snow or aeroplanes) move through and with the ice until they come out the end.

  165. 165
    ibrahim says:

    the earth’s climate moves through a well known 1000 year cycle. wiki temperature record.

    30 years is not enough to tell whether thjis is part of that natural cycle or not

  166. 166
    filipinomonkey says:

    you missed out crops being grown for fuel production…

  167. 167
    Mongspotter says:

    That digging up millions of years worth of hydrocarbons and burning them might have some influence on the atmosphere, despite your desperation to look big in a fuel guzzling yanktruck.

  168. 168
    Stuttering Balls says:

    The Thames was much wider and shallower in those days, so vast areas could freeze solid and be safely used for ice fairs. Can’t explain away the Greenland farming though.

    For what it’s worth – China is switching on a 600MW coal fired power station every week, yes every week (36GW p.a.) so switching off street lights in the cities and towns of the UK, does not contribute to anything, except increased risk to their pedestrians and some money to the bonus fund for their “CEO”.

  169. 169
    Mongspotter says:

    Objects slowly sink in ice.

  170. 170
    Tory voter says:

    Much Arctic glaciation is on land – Greenland. As this melts, it will raise sea levels.

    But even melting the sea ice will slightly raise sea levels as that part of the ice (which becomes ware) that is above sea level becomes water. (This is why icebergs float).

    As far as other weather events are concerned, they have indeed occurred in the past. The problem is that they are occurring substantially more often now.

  171. 171
    Tory voter says:

    Sadly, this is not fiction.

    If you cherry pick your data carefully enough, you can prove almost anything. (e.g. “10% of people get cancer.” “Oh no they don’t. Neither I nor nine of my friends have cancer. You’re talking rubbish!”)

    However, looking at the long-term trend, there is no doubt that the climate is warming.

  172. 172
    misterneddy says:

    “Severe storms are becoming more common ”

    No they are not. They are being reported more widely, but there has been no increase in severe storms. Or to be more accurate, there is no correlation between increases in accepted average global temperature and frequency of severe storms. NONE whatsoever.

  173. 173
    misterneddy says:

    The temperature is warmer than the last 200 years, but colder than the last 1000, 2000, 8000, etc…

    You can prove anything by cherry-picking convenient start and end dates.

  174. 174
    misterneddy says:

    Sad but true. Science has become more corrupt than religion. At least religion does not pretend to have proof of God and asks for your faith.

    Scientific conclusions are bought these days, not discovered scientifically.

  175. 175
    misterneddy says:

    There is no consensus.

    The Doran survey which established the “97% of scientists support the consensus” has been thoroughly debunked.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/18/what-else-did-the-97-of-scientists-say/

    A tiny minority of scientists have actually studied the mechanisms for climatic temperature variations and there isn’t even a consensus amongst those as to how much or what rate of warming there will be for a given increase in atmospheric CO2.

    Certainly there is NO consensus that we are dicing with catastrophe. That is a fraud peddled by paid up believers who rely on the alarmist fearmongering to keep their grant money pouring in by the million.

  176. 176
    misterneddy says:

    +1

  177. 177
    XXXxx says:

    Not really if it is explicit as I think it is, more like a an advert for winter sports on Wimbledon Common

  178. 178
    XXXxx says:

    Listening to the weather forecasts are you ready for the big freeze in the next fortnight, “The Beast from the East”, Guido is not bothered he will be relying on all the hot air coming from politicos mouths and all those boozy parties.

  179. 179
    WorthSaying says:

    Its colder in the Arctic (than the long term average) this winter and the snows came early. The Russians use pairs of nuclear powered ice breakers to clear a way for a specially modified freighter. Nothing to do with climate or temperatures. as technology improves more things are possible. The reason the NW passage became navigable was because of stronger boats – nothing to do with climate. People sat in London imagine the arctic to be one big slab of ice. It isn’t and never had been. Conditions vary.

  180. 180
    XXXxx says:

    Do you know something, tittle-tattel, gossip and rumours. It is no business of mine what Guido does in his spare time but with a wife 2 kids, boozy meetings with politicos he has enough going on for any of that.

  181. 181
    WorthSaying says:

    Melting ice doesn’t raise sea levels. Does the sea level rise every summer? No. Ice displaces its own Weight in water. Schoolboy physics.

  182. 182
    olden1936 says:

    If you believe that you’ll believe anything folks

  183. 183
    BBC manager in charge of propaganda mantras says:

    Under advice from the Guardian and George Monbiot let it be know that the propaganda mantra “global warming” is to be dropped forthwith by the BBC, and the propaganda mantra “climate change” is to be adopted in ALL cases to further our agends to run down and ruin the UK so that Labour can get in power again.

  184. 184
    Red Ed Millibandwagon says:

    I am also totally confused on this issue.
    Guess I will have to join Ralph Fiennes in Antarctica and find out.
    Should be a breeze.

  185. 185
    Pundit too too says:

    One does have to smile / grimace on the daily grind news from Bring Back Communism.
    Global Warming becomes Global Change and today we hear that an English cricketer in India has beaten the record of Wally Hammond in scoring 23 centuries in Test Cricket.
    As normal with one dimensional BBC news they conveniently forget to mention how many tests were played in Hammond’s time as against now etc etc.

  186. 186
    Jake says:

    If I remember correctly oxford and east anglia climate units let out a report on the quiet earlier this year that shows there has been no increase in temperature over the past 13 years…….

  187. 187
    jbowers2 says:

    Cumulative mass loss of alpine glaciers

    http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/article/2012/state-of-the-climate-2011-mountain-glaciers

    Greenland and Antarctica collectively losing three times more ice than in the early 1990s, Greenland alone five times more.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/nov/29/greenland-antarctica-4-trillion-tonnes-ice

    Your announcement fails at all levels.

  188. 188
    jbowers2 says:

    Cumulative mass loss of alpine glaciers

    http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/article/2012/state-of-the-climate-2011-mountain-glaciers

    Greenland and Antarctica collectively losing three times more ice than in the early 1990s, Greenland alone five times more.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/nov/29/greenland-antarctica-4-trillion-tonnes-ice

    You announcement fails on all levels.

  189. 189
    Llareggub says:

    Mostly they’re too busy saving the world, I mean err, promoting the green pension investments of BBC staff.

  190. 190
    Buster Gut says:

    I fink roger harribinman was whining into his microphone in a warm doha….

    poor thing

  191. 191
    Stop warmist propaganda now says:

    Yeah it was warming right up to the moment it stopped.

  192. 192
    keredybretsa says:

    Trouble is….sob…sob..ain’t no pretty polar bears in the Himalayas!

  193. 193
    Anonymous says:

    It’s over? It never even started!


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