November 28th, 2012

Guidorama Investigation: Guardian Offices Owned Offshore

Day two of the Guardian’s ongoing Offshore Secrets investigation focused on “who is buying up London: the real identities behind Britain’s secret property deals”. Apparently some 100,000 tax avoiders have been purchasing British properties and offices using offshore companies, hiding their dealings in the UK and reducing their bill to the exchequer. Wouldn’t it be ironic if the Guardian’s very own offices were owned by an offshore company? Surely not…

Guido can reveal that 90 King’s Place, the Guardian’s offices in central London, is owned by a tax exempt offshore investment trust managed from Germany:

If and when the trust’s owners ever decide to sell the property, bought for £234 million and now worth considerably more, the owners could sell the trust offshore rather than the property itself and avoid all UK taxes. The trust itself is exempt from corporation tax in Germany. The Treasury will be denied millions of pounds.

It is incredible that the Guardian is paying millions to an offshore trust which is structured in such a way that it pays no corporation tax anywhere in the world. Guidorama tried to contact James Ball, the Guardian investigations journalist at the forefront of the Offshore Secrets series, he said he was too ill to speak to us, the Guardian Media Group’s press office claims that all the press officers are abroad. Caught on camera Patrick Wintour, the paper’s political editor, pleaded ignorance.

The hypocrisy of the Guardian moralising about tax-avoiding offshore owned properties when it is actually based in one is priceless …


  1. 1
    Kebab Time says:

    Guardian like most lefties are hypocrites.

  2. 2
    The team at Department S says:

    James Ball is too ill to speak to you? Is he as sick as a dog for not ‘discovering’ this fact about his employers, even though Private Eye have been saying so for many moons?

  3. 3
    Tuscan Tony says:

    Nice one Guido, Neo, job well done.

  4. 4
    Cheryl Grow says:

    I thought that was perfectly legal!

  5. 5
    Ghost of Greg Stone. says:

    The Guardian has a press office?

  6. 6
    Anonymous says:

    The number of underemployed – those who want to work more hours – hit a total of 3.05 million in 2012, a 50pc jump since 2008, with school crossing assistants and bar staff some of the jobs with the highest levels of underemployment, with one in four part-time workers wanting to work more hours.

    The 3.05m underemployed represents around 1 in 10 of the 29.41m people in work, giving an underemployment rate of 10.5pc.

  7. 7
    Steve Miliband says:

    Woodward and Bernstein live on

  8. 8
    Anonymous says:

    The address says 82 – 96 York Way not Kings Place !

  9. 9
    Jimmy says:

    Its not worng when we do it, silly.

  10. 10
    Red Egg Millitit..... says:

    Nice one Cyril, nice one son, nice on Cyril, lets have another one :)

  11. 11
    Steve Miliband says:

    so you said in an earlier post.
    Does a government have to provide a job for everyone?

  12. 12
    its bleak in sunderland says:

    What else would you expect from the Left Wing arse licking hypocritical f…..s?

  13. 13
    Oh I say, hey oik! says:

    Why did Liebour allow uncontrolled emigration, like being idiotic green , theirs only a finite amount of resources or in this case jobs in Britain to go around, we are not the job centre for the 3rd world.

  14. 14
    My four by four trolls the streets of London says:

    Well, got to be said, put the hunts up against the wall, the total monatary bloodsuckers in our land, living off our culture, and not paying their due fair whack,

    Ey? Cultural blood mosquitoes, and we all know what we need to do about mosquitoes? YES!, swat them away.

  15. 15
    Archbishop Chris Eubank says:

    Who’d of Eubank’d it?

  16. 16
    Jen The Blue says:

    Kebab is exactly right. Lefties are usually total hypocrites.

  17. 17
    Cyril Pervo says:

    You missed out ‘another one in the bum’

  18. 18
    Silent Bob says:


  19. 19
    Cyril Pervo says:

    And ‘No Harm Done’

  20. 20
    Universal Hiss says:

    Why am I not surprised by this.

    In other news;

    I’m not sure I believe any of that. Seems like it’s all made up.

    Still it is in The Guardian.

  21. 21
    The planet says:

    And it was boring then. Only an autistic with no sense of what is interesting would post this crap in the first place. But it takes a special kind of unaware asbergers kid to post it twice!

  22. 22
    Cyril Pervo says:

    With big bells on.

  23. 23
    Plato says:

    Professional job. But, where are the custard pies, big shoes, and spinning ties?

  24. 24
    Polly Pot says:

    Chairman Alan will be releasing a statement fully explaining our position to the people’s republic of Guardiana shortly.
    In the mean time some patriotic folk music and some images of the EU flag.

  25. 25 says:

    One minute the Tories are getting slated for not signing up to the working time directive (working too many hours). Now some tossers are whingeing because people are working too little. That’s even more hypocrisy for you.

  26. 26
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    Get the rent-seeking tax dodgers.

    What Would Adam Smith do?

    Ground-rents are a still more proper subject of taxation than the rent of houses. A tax upon ground-rents would not raise the rents of houses. It would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent, who acts always as a monopolist, and exacts the greatest rent which can be got for the use of his ground. More or less can be got for it according as the competitors happen to be richer or poorer, or can afford to gratify their fancy for a particular spot of ground at a greater or smaller expense. In every country the greatest number of rich competitors is in the capital, and it is there accordingly that the highest ground-rents are always to be found. As the wealth of those competitors would in no respect be increased by a tax upon ground-rents, they would not probably be disposed to pay more for the use of the ground. Whether the tax was to be advanced by the inhabitant, or by the owner of the ground, would be of little importance. The more the inhabitant was obliged to pay for the tax, the less he would incline to pay for the ground; so that the final payment of the tax would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent.

    — Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations, Book V, Chapter 2, Article I: Taxes upon the Rent of Houses

  27. 27
    Nice Pie says:

    Yeah Liebour, why did you let everybody emigrate? And why did you restrict grammar and spelling?

  28. 28
    Ear Ear says:

    Buy a half decent microphone for feck sake and sort out the audio mix in the video!

    Apart from that nice one!

  29. 29
    Anonymous says:

    28m are going to be allowed to move freely with in EU. Even if 1% comes in we are going to get 280,000 more people moving into UK. As things are we might get around 4% i.e. around 1,100,000 moving into UK under Cameron.

  30. 30 says:

    He probably works too many hours or maybe too few hours. Ask a socialist which one the meddling state should decree how long people must work. Sky pixie forbid the individual should be allowed to take that decision.

  31. 31
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    Actually no, unemployment is caused by taxation of incomes (employee income, NI, Employer NI, Corp Tax, VAT).

    Immigration “merely” puts pressure on wages, and increases rents.

  32. 32
    Engineer says:

    It is (I presume).

    But why do companies bother? Because tax rates in the UK are too high.

    Why are tax rates too high? Beacause lefty governments like spending other people’s money.

    What have we got for all the money spent? Actually – I’m not all that sure.

  33. 33
    Chap with an iphone says:


    You gotta do something about the comments on your blog that make it malfunction on an iPhone. I assume I’m not the only one seeing this problem. First comnemt on this story and I think first comment on the farage media profile have something in them that makes the iPhone malfunction then rest of comments unreadable. Perhaps someone does this intentionally?

  34. 34
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Aha, they’ve been flushed out again!

    They say one thing and do another. Their finances are offshore and their values are overboard.

  35. 35
    Denis Macshame says:

    I got 16 laptops and still Comet goes bust!

    Insolvent electrical chain Comet is closing a further 125 stores, its administrators have said. Following the closures, which should begin next month, there will be 70 stores left open from an original 236. Reports suggest more than 3,000 jobs could be affected by the latest round of store closures.

  36. 36
    Cyril Pervo Smith's Ghost says:

    Another 40 year old on Sky News is making up things against me.

    Remember 1972 was so long ago so no one can remember.

  37. 37
    My four by four trolls the streets of London says:

    It should, as a right, to work, as it used to be after WWII, so people don’t fall into a puddle of alcohol, various meow type drugs, nor crime. Or am I being simple minded here. Howard?

    Garden shed summer rave festival with eight? Might work, if the ticket prices are high enough. Genius see.

  38. 38
    Anonymous says:

    It shows Cameron and Osborne’s Plan A has failed.

  39. 39
    pilsdon says:

    to contact the Guardian, the Observer and

    Please address any correspondence to:
    Kings Place, 90 York Way
    London N1 9GU

  40. 40
    Stereo/Mono says:

    Is there a reason the sound goes mono halfway through?

  41. 41
    Jimmy says:

    Now then now then.

  42. 42
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    The number of underpaid – those who want to get paid more – hit a total of 29.41 million in 2012, a 0pc jump since 50,000BC, with telephone sanitisers some of the jobs with the highest levels of underpayment, with four in four part-time workers wanting more dosh.

    The 29.41m underpaid represents around 10 in 10 of the 29.41m people in work, giving an underpayment rate of 100.0pc.

  43. 43
    Guardian reader says:

    Guardian is a decent paper that doesn’t peddle right wing propaganda. That’s why you all hate it.

  44. 44
    Anonymous says:

    Turkey must join EU, says Cameron: ‘Those who are against are playing on fears of Islam’

    Read more:
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  45. 45
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    Get a decent phone.

  46. 46
    Anonymous says:

    Yeah the Guardians address is Kings Place but the address for which Guido claims is the G’s offices but is owned by company in Germany is for York Way NOT Kings Place !

  47. 47
    My four by four trolls the streets of London says:

    Met Howard behind the times when it was a broadsheet in the Boar’s Head Carmarthen, with his glasses on, looking for interesting todays news, and I made him laugh also, and he made me – he liked my joke on where he is from me, Kenfig, when I asked him when did the citizens of Kenfig hill decide building sand castles was not for them? I got him into stitches with that one. You won’t get it unless you are from Bridgend, where all their decendants now live.

  48. 48
    Anonymous says:

    You mean this government increasing VAT, employee NI, pastry tax, caravan tax, etc.

    Forgotten, also reducing the band at which people pay 40% tax.

    In the meantime people (like Cameron’s friends and family) making over £150,000 are getting 5% tax cut.

  49. 49
    Engineer says:

    High taxes = businesses that can’t compete globally = fewer jobs.

    Low taxes = competitive businesses = lots of jobs.

  50. 50
    Realist says:

    No it doesn’t. It also reduces the need to educate our own young people, which is disastrous for our future.

  51. 51
    Diane Abbott says:

    White people love playing ‘divide and rule’.

  52. 52
    Anonymous says:

    Your mother and I both feel that its time that you knew that you were adopted Jimmy. Oh and that we both vote UKIP. Bye.

  53. 53
    Great Granddad:Prime Minister in Waiting, New Utopia Party says:

    It is not remotely wrong for the Guardian, or you, or me, to avoid tax. It is not wrong for you or me to demand payment in legal tender: we have the legal right to demand it. It is sad that the Chancellor, the Treasury and the tax man (to say nothing of their predecessors) cannot between them write plain and simple tax law that leaves no room for the wealthy to jump through the loopholes. What we need is a written constitution that, inter alia, prohibits any act of parliament that cannot in its entirety be written in 10 point script on two sides of a piece of foolscap paper. It should be illegal for the publicly funded BBC to spend its entire advertising budget in one “newspaper” thus delaying the release of that anointed publication from its deathbed. It should be legal to summarily dismiss any employee for patent display of being unable do the lob for which they are employed. Fortunately for Messrs. Ball and Wintour that law is not yet in place.

    Finally, I do not understand why Guido has not got the newspapers and No. 10 queuing up with attractive job offers. Perhaps they are, Guido, and cannily you are not telling us.

  54. 54
    Wallace and Vomit says:

    No it peddles left wing cr*p like the BBC which is why blinkered socialists like it

  55. 55
    Engineer says:

    “….5% tax cut.”

    Good. Maybe they’ll stop pissing off abroad. 50% of fuck all = fuck all. 45% of a bit more is better. 25% of lots more is even better.

  56. 56
    Nice Pie says:

    What school of economics is that? Osbornomics? If it weren’t so depressing it would be funny. HAHAHAHAHAHA, Oh look, we’re all dead because of tax… No, I’m alright, I’ve just got Tax AIDS but my accountant has a cure, offshore.

  57. 57
    Tim W says:

    Showbiz gave us the Glitterati.
    Twitter gave us the Twatterati.
    Now, the Guardian has given us the Hypocrati!

  58. 58
    Plato says:

    “Hate” is a bad word; that’s why I don’t use it. Personally, it’s the sanctimonious hyocrisy of the Guardian I “strongly dislike”.

  59. 59
    Realist says:

    The site is intended for the intelligentsia. Only a thicko would buy an Iphone.

  60. 60
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Taxes are for poor people to pay not rich intellectual lefties

  61. 61
    John Jackson says:

    From the guardian web-page: is based at:
    Kings Place, 90 York Way, London N1 9GU, United Kingdom

  62. 62
    Widescreen2010 says:

    Who would have thunk it?

  63. 63
    its bleak in sunderland says:

    If only!

  64. 64
    Moussa Koussa Mark 3 says:

    In protest…Guido and his chum Dale ( not winton, but same flavour ) are gonna pay their taxes, and leave the schemes they use to evade correct payment

  65. 65
    Anonymous says:

    Engineer; last week people found out big business in UK are paying almost 0% tax. You cannot cut it further than 0%.

  66. 66
    Operation Crossbow says:

    I love the way the BBC are trying to spin the “Tories failing with jobs” line.

    Some bint on TV is moping about how she can’t get a job, if it’s the same one they interviewed on Radio 5 this morning she has a degree (the TV don’t say) in English literature and says “I was told I’d walk straight into a good job”

    Yes love, you mean one of those public sector 70K a year diversity officer or lesbian condom investigator that Gordon Brown created to bloat the public sector by a million extra Labour voters…I mean jobs.

    Here’s a thought, why didn’t you study mechanical engineering at university instead, you wouldn’t be short of a job then love.

  67. 67
    its bleak in sunderland says:

    Maybe he can get a job in one of them as part of his rehabilitation when he comes out of the slammer!

  68. 68
    Engineer says:

    If that’s what the law allows them to do, you can’t blame them. If it was legal for you to pay 0% tax, you would too.

  69. 69
    Paxo classic says:

  70. 70
    Anonymous says:

    Engineer; tax cut to everyone I agree. But under this government tax has been increase to almost everyone while tax was cut for people earning over £150,000. This is where the problem is.

  71. 71
    Polly says:

    I shall not be writing a column regarding this.

  72. 72
    Anonymous says:

    Engineer; so how do you want the tax to be cut from 0%?

  73. 73
    Missing be the centre of attraction says:

    I could have tweeted that *gulp*

  74. 74

    And Plan B won’t either – he’s busy promoting the Sweeny movie and his new album.

  75. 75
    Anonymous says:

    Like his own MPs!

  76. 76
    keredybretsa says:

    Like my tax geez always said, you must pay your taxes, its my job to see you pay as little as possible.

  77. 77
    Engineer says:


  78. 78
    Your Friendly Neighbourhood Political Machinations Explanation Service says:

    That sort of gerrymandering is done in the US every ten years. When certain states lost population or gained slower than others, they lost seats in Congress, thus the boundaries of each constituency were expanded. State Legislatures, however, obviously don’t lose seats. As suburbs burgeoned and populations there increased, the Republicans took over many State Legislature seats, which also must be redrawn every ten years. When they became the Majority in those states, the Repub’s used the power of redistricting which the Constitution gives the Legislatures (subject only to the Equal Protection Clause and enabling legislation in the Voting Rights Act of 1965 to eliminate egregiously bad districts which dissipate the voting strength of “protected classes,” i.e., racial minorities). Thus, Republicans were able to draw lines which, in states that lose population, favour Repub’s naturally, and in growing states, concentrate minorities into ever geographically smaller and more demographically uniform districts. That’s how the Repub’s have controlled the House of Representatives 14 out of the last 18 years, and for the next two as well.

  79. 79
    Just Saying says:

    Only half of the above is correct.

  80. 80
    lojolondon says:

    Actually the businesses are quite correctly paying tax according to the law. Because EU law allows companies to pay tax in any European country they choose, most choose Lichtenstein or Switzerland, and they pay the full rate of tax there, exactly as the law specifies.

    It is our own fault, for allowing the Commies to con us into being part of the EU.

    That is why I vote UKIP.

  81. 81
    Clair Sillymum says:

    Yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah, but, itwasTriciawhostoleKerriesboyfriendJimandspiltcideralloverShellsshoesandthenweallwentinthebuildingbecausethedoorswereopenlikeandthefireextinguisherthatwasTanyawhoissuchabitchanditwasntme, fascist.

  82. 82
    Deaf in One Ear says:

    Not sure I only hear half the sound.

  83. 83
    Red Egg Millitit..... says:

    what a stupid, lazy, ignorant, slapper she was pip pip…… :)

    Get a flocking job……

  84. 84
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    Those creating > 150,000 pounds of wealth were punished less for it. Hopefully they will continue to create wealth.

    They had a tax cut because they were picked on by insane marxist *ENVY taxes. Government should tax it’s products (land rights, copyrights, patents & contract arbitration), not destroy comparative advantage with moronic harmful taxes.

    *a tautology.

  85. 85
    Anonymous says:

    All we know is, Plan A has failed. As Plan B or C hasn’t been tried we don’t know how it will end.

    What I am saying is, there is no point in sticking to Cameron and Osborne’s Plan A that failed. Also there is no point in sticking to Cameron and Osborne as well. We need new PM and chancellor as these two had failed; can be from any party.

  86. 86
    Dick the Butcher says:

    Good point Anon. I foresee a future where my mobile gets a message from lawyers “Adopted/fostered by UKIP voters? Huge compo payouts available – just call Slime, Leech & Vermin”.

  87. 87
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    Sharks must be allowed in swimming pools, says Cameron: ‘Those who are against are playing on fears of Sharks’

  88. 88
    More Cow Bells says:

    I prefer the Blue Oyster Cult

  89. 89
    Liberal Zombie says:

    Don’t look at me, I didn’t do it.

  90. 90
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    Grauniad is morally and financially b4nkrupt. It only keeps going because it’s subsidised by a magazine that sells plant-food creating cars.

  91. 91
    anon. says:

  92. 92
    Engineer says:

    Chancellor has a problem. Trying to balance tax rates at a point at which avoidance isn’t worth the bother. High earners can afford the fees of tax specialists, lower earners often can’t. He’d like to reduce all tax rates (classical way to stimulate growth), but he needs the revenue to avoid the deficit rising. He’s in a no-win position; given the hand he was dealt by the last government, he’s doing about as well as anybody could.

  93. 93
    Jimmy says:

    In tomorrow’s thrilling instalment, Guido will calculate the tax the grauniad is avoiding on its losses.

    Can’t wait.

  94. 94
    Chef says:

    Rice and pea!

  95. 95
    Paxo classic says:

    Love how she dodges every single question!

  96. 96
    Mrs Bone says:

    I want Peter to bone me.

  97. 97
    Lord Clyde says:

    D-u-u-h-h-h, Mr Tax Geez, we’ve been telling everyone to do that for years, Learned Hand and me.

  98. 98
    Jimmy says:

    If you’re finding the comments here unreadable then it’s probably working fine.

  99. 99
    David B says:

    LabourLIst was able to do an article yesterday on a Q&A session that the two Ed’s are doing today in which they were able to give MiLLE’s answer on tax avoidance. (How he know what the questions were going to be is not explained!).

    The answer was heavy on the critizising the government for cutting taxes to stimulate economic grown, but interesting the Guardian or Margaret Hodge appeared to be absent from the answer.

  100. 100
    David B says:

    Appears they are avoiding the same amount of tax as Starbucks avoids on their losses!

  101. 101
    Jimmy says:

    He spelt “reich” wrong

  102. 102
    Sir William W says:

    The Grauniad should go completely offshore, to one of those places that it admires so much; Venezuela, say, or Gaza.

  103. 103
    Tiswaz says:

    And Sally James’s Tit’s

  104. 104
    Anonymous says:

    I don’t agree with it. As any tax will be passed on to the consumer in one way or other. What we need is a level playing field where every business pay the same % of tax.

    We have end in a situation where local coffee shop is paying more tax than a massive chain operating in this country.

  105. 105
    Carter Smünt says:

    Fat ‘Eck Salmond wants separate Press regulation for Scotland

    ‘Eck may have been upset after been pictured with Murdoch last Hanukkah stuffing the press baron’s capon with his haggis.

  106. 106
    The eternal student says:

    Has this perpetual drain on the taxpayer, graduated yet ?

  107. 107
    Raving Loon says:

    Tax is only for the little people.

  108. 108
    Ed Microband the Unreddy says:

    Leveson must be told. This calls for another judge-led inquiry when he gets back from his holiday in Australia. Beggars belief. Resign before end of the day … somebody. I would never condone tax avoidance. The rich should pay their fair share …… (and more incoherent, rambling bollocks).

  109. 109
    Dave Camoron (one-term PM) says:

    Turkey must join EU, those who are against are limiting my ability to get a new conservatory built and my house redecorated by dirt-cheap workers for a rock-bottom price, what what!

    Plus the demand on housing will push my property values up and I’ll make a jolly mint!

    Sod everyone else, buy shares in Wimpey Homes! I have! What what what!

  110. 110
    Anonymous says:

    Engineer, so why did Osborne increase Foreign Aid or benefit payment by almost 6%?

    Number of other countries has much less avoidance. UK even let small islands it control to help increase tax avoidance.

  111. 111
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    Let’s actually try austerity…

  112. 112
    Dave Camoron says:

    Turkey must join EU, those who are against are limiting my ability to get a new conservatory built and my house redecorated by dirt-cheap workers for a rock-bottom price, what what!

    Plus the demand on housing will push my property values up and I’ll make a jolly mint!

    Sod everyone else, get shares in Wimpey Homes! I have! What what what!

  113. 113
    Carter Smünt says:

    Paxo didn’t mention my name in that clip, can I sue the BEEB for libel?

  114. 114
    Halley says:

    Closing sale started 10 years ago. Saw it coming with my telescope.

  115. 115
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    Aha, You don’t believe Ricardo’s law of rent (the only “economists” who agree with you are called Marx and Malthus)..

    Landlords could raise rents massively, but they don’t because they’re good like that…

  116. 116
    Chubblie Jungler says:

    I think there is a job going at Telford Communist Donkey Park for a Split Arsed Mare

  117. 117
    Rotherham SS (Social Services) says:

    Our department would like to clarify that in accordance with Common Purpose directives we do not act on behalf of the elected council as that would contravene our clear policy of leading beyond authority.

    We would respectfully ask Mr Bone to prepare his children for state protection and not impede the work of our staff who are currently in transit to his address.

    – Think global, act local.

  118. 118
    Archer Karcher says:

    “He needs the revenue”

    To piss it away on the EU thieves paradise?
    DfID money sprayed around the world at people who hate us and third world dictators?
    For idiotic, eye wateringly expensive and utterly useless windfarms?
    Or paying immigrants not to work and giving unemployable asylum seekers, houses worth north of a million pounds?

    He does not need the revenue, he needs sacking.

  119. 119
    Mr Curious says:

    The Guardian makes a loss? Why? Is it because it’s shit?

  120. 120
    Derry Air says:

    Newsnight will get to bottom of it all. Jeremy Thorpe knew about it all along, of course. What cover-up?

  121. 121
    CarryHole is a Huge Hunt says:

    He’s not a socialist like you and thus doesn’t know how to spell it, let alone implement it.

    National Socialism. It’s Marxism with a different group to pick on.

  122. 122
    Anonymous says:

    lojolondon, why doesn’t it happen in other countries that are in EU like Germany or France?

  123. 123
    Mr Curious. says:

    The Guardian makes a loss?? Well I never. Is it because it’s shit?

  124. 124
    Socialism is a severe mental illness says:

    What about the Socialist Utopia of North Korea?

    Added bonus; they don’t have any paper (apparently they could produce all the paper they need and more, but they don’t want to).

  125. 125
    Anonymous says:

    There is the another issue, loads of leaseholders pay peppercorn rent (less than £100 a year) to landlords. Even if you put 100% tax on this £100 you will not raise much tax.

  126. 126
    Good Thinking says:

  127. 127
    The savant8.5 says:

    Does. Jason king still. Work. For department s

    If so why hasn. T. It bin on telly lately

    Or is peter wyngarde now brown bread ??

  128. 128
    Meanwhile: says:

    Three siblings removed from their foster parents after the couple were found to be members of Ukip have now been split up.

    And still Thacker has not been fired…………..

  129. 129
    Lord Wayne of Empty Sella says:

    guardian is a good paper with extensive readership

    PS I have no brain

  130. 130
    David B says:

    Does this include Gordon Brown who just does not bother going to work

  131. 131
    tinnitus says:

    Eh! I heard that.!

  132. 132
    David B says:

    But Starbuck makes a loss, just like the Guardian.

  133. 133
    Paxo classic says:

    She’s probably onto her fifth degree now.

  134. 134
    Konga says:

    I am so fat I drink tomato soup

    I am so fat I burts

  135. 135
    Living in 98 percent white Merseyside (with a view towards 99% white N. Wales) says:

    Yes, it’s on The Strand, Bootle.

  136. 136
    Judge Pickled says:

    Sit on my knee dear boy and anything is possible.

  137. 137
    The savant8.5 says:

    The only person EVER to have entitlement to wearing a spinning bow tie was ricky s dad in eastenders when he turned up wearing nothing else on at big patricia’s. Front door to plight his troth

    Or as they say in eastenders.
    Dip. His wick .

    I ve forgotten his. Name.
    No i have nt.
    it s mike reid

    Rest in peace

  138. 138
    Eve Pollard's Big Tits says:

    Me too, can’t think why.??

  139. 139
    Tom Watson is a pearl in the dungheap says:

    It’s funny how no one mentions the Non Dom status of Rothermere and the tax haven of the Barclays.

    They’re all in it together.

  140. 140
    The savant8.5 says:

    Liam byrne says :


    There s. none. Left

    I. Ate it all

  141. 141
    Living in 98 percent white Merseyside (with a view towards 99% white N. Wales) says:

    Bet they don’t shop at Poundland.

  142. 142
    The voice of reason says:


  143. 143
    Back passage says:

    No the failure was the socialist spend till you drop , this government are now tasked with the awful task of repairing the shit left behind and are doing it correctly

  144. 144
    Archer Karcher says:

    Straight out of the St. Tone of Truth, Ed Balls playbook ” I think the real question you should be asking here is”.

  145. 145
    Carter Smünt says:

    Good Judge: What about equal rights for necrophiliacs: allowing open displays of affection, marriage, adoption etc?

  146. 146
    IMHO says:

    The very least the Guardian could do would be to Blush for bare-faced hypocrisy, better still, they should seal themselves in a pit of their own filth. Comment is Free.

  147. 147
    JH says:

    Big of you to admit they make losses Jimmy.

    How can that be, with its wonderfully worthy world view it earnestly believes should be forced on everybody?

    Maybe because barely anyone outside cosy little liberal metropolitan elites actually shares that world view enough to put their hand in their pocket to buy a paper espousing it?

    Amazed there has not been more of a push for a ‘progressive media license’ from lefties. They get their TV and radio paid for via money extorted from others, why not their papers too?

  148. 148
    Socialists = Sociopaths says:

    Hypocrisy and Mendacity – it’s in Libor’s D-N-A.

  149. 149
    For classical scholars only. The last PM will understand perfectly says:

    Well done lads. Go get ‘em. Time to untie this Guardian Knot.

  150. 150
    Archer Karcher says:

    National socialists were socialists just like you Jimmy. It was a conservative who stood up to them and smashed their plans of slavery and conquest.

    Clearly, that really niggles you, a lot.

  151. 151
    Anonymous says:

    Even if you are paid 1p a month you are counted as employed.

    Even if one on full unemployment benefit is sent for 1 hour training a week, he / she comes out of people counted as unemployed and on benefits.

    UK population is around 62m. 29m are employed 2.5m are unemployed, do you think UK has 30.5m pensioners and kids?

  152. 152
    The savant8.5 says:

    Silent my dear dear fellow

    How nice to hear from you again

    We thought you had joined jeffrey Bernard in the coach and horses hereafter.

    Glad to see you are well. This week

    Will you be unwell again next week ??

  153. 153
    Jeremy 'TaxPlan' Paxman says:

    I’ll have a rant about this later.

  154. 154
    Archer Karcher says:

    The only difference between Starbucks and the Guardian is, Starbucks don’t try and hypocritically grandstand about tax avoidance. Still, that’s ‘progressives’ for you, hypocrites and liars all.

  155. 155
    unrealistic expectations says:

    …who we have to wait until their plans come up against the same realtime issues and have a mixed bag of achievements not unlike cameron and osborne. Given our difficulties in the current economic cycle we are enduring nobody could please you Anon

  156. 156
    Engineer says:

    Total spent on EU membership and overseas aid combined would not solve the deficit problem (and no, I don’t like the amount spent on either). The problem is the far larger sums spent on Welfare, Health and Debt Interest, non of which can be easily reduced, but between them amount to about half of all public spending.

  157. 157
    The team at Department S says:

    We understand that Mr. Wyngarde is alive and well. But as to where he is living, we’re not sure.

  158. 158
    Fanny Haddock says:

    Nice to see Louis Walsh relieve Mr Murdoch of half a million euros plus costs.

  159. 159
    Jimmy says:

    Actually I think you’ll find that final victory was delivered under a Labour government, although we do generously acknowledge the contribution of our earlier coalition partners in reversing the failures of the previous tory administration.

  160. 160
    The savant8.5 says:

    Who the freak is going to buy anything from theremaining 70 stores on limited life support

    Would you like our comet five year guarantee with that sir ….

    Better to lance the boil now and Do a woolworths

  161. 161
    Anonymous says:

    Engineer, debt interest has been reduced by £35bn. BOE printed the money bought government debt collected interest and gave it back to the government.

    Benefits, why did Osborne increase it by 6% when salary increases were less than 2%?

  162. 162
    The savant8.5 says:

    When you say

    Guardian reader

    Are you the ONE guardian reader left ????

  163. 163
    The savant8.5 says:

    As opposed to diva. Diane who loves to encourage her. Children to play

    ” private school “.


  164. 164
    The only party that can see the wood for the trees says:

    Roll on 2015 and lets get rid of Dave Shambles Camoron
    This is a man who tells us “We’re all in it together ” yey proves time and time again he’s all for him and his toff chums
    It’s ironic that the pleb now wants to bring in a minimum unit price for alcohol , yet we the tax payers will still be paying the subsidy on parliaments alcohol consumption
    His idea of taxing the many to penalise the few to cut down on binge drinking is total bollocks
    does keep putting the price of fags up stop people smoking ? NO !
    educating people to the dangers , stops people smoking
    does seizing drugs which in turn forces the price up , stop people taking drugs ? No
    This shite gov is getting to be bigger taxers than Labour
    Their failing recovery is not happening
    their failing immigration policy is not working
    Jesus H Christ they can’t even collect tax from some of the biggest major foreign companies that trade here They are an utter disgrace , and a total shambols
    Cameron ! Be Gone you Wanker !

  165. 165
    DPRK Ministry of People's Security says:

    Honourable application considered but denied.

    Our exalted leader considered editorial content and immoral tax arrangement to be socially negative for the peoples of DPRK.

  166. 166
    Scot Trust (Grand Cayman office) says:


  167. 167
    H Block says:

    I am a socialist Lion in the socialist zoo

  168. 168
    H Block says:

    I am also the Conservative snake with a big heat lamp

  169. 169
    unrealistic expectations says:

    fair point engineer..once again you talk like a contrary c’unt Anon…whatever anyone did you would be carping.

  170. 170
    Bellend Benny says:

    The Guardian don’t give a fuck or they wouldn’t peddle such shite

  171. 171
    The Libor party says:

    ‘Monumental mistake’…er no, that was invading Iraq looking for non-existent WMD

  172. 172
    constituency trainbound says:

    pathetic ‘camoron’

  173. 173
    Moussa Koussa's pet meerkat says:

    + one million

  174. 174
    A plague on the lot of 'em says:

    That’s all very well but do you HONESTLY think that Miliband’s Labour would(or will do)any better if they were in government.Let’s face it…in 13 years they fucked over the UK Economy and Society big time.Got us into 2 unwinnable wars, one of which was illegal and which the British Army had to retreat(dress it up all you want)in the face of Iraqi militias in Basra They may not have been responsible for the 2007 crash but they encouraged the scenario with their policies and lack of control on financial services. Labour would be an even bigger catastrophe for Britain as they haven’t got a clue either how to get us out of this mess other than the brilliant idea of running up more debt to keep their “client state” and union bosses happy

  175. 175
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    This was a Liebor Party automated posting from their office computer. They would rather cash strapped employers threw workers out onto the street, than keep them on part time for when the recovery comes, as it surely will.

  176. 176
    Osama the Nazarene says:


  177. 177
    The savant8.5 says:

    Paxo is always good value and as he ages his visage becomes ever more malleable to suit the context of each interview stroke discussion.

    Example: yesterday s expression when talking about death being the only sure thing. Could only properly be described as …… Sepulchral.

    Long live the liverpool care pathway .

  178. 178
    Bliar can't talk !!! says:

    As opposed to Bliar whose position on EVERYTHING including allowing Brown unfettered rein on domestic policy and the economy for fear of tearing the Labour Party apart waging illegal war was a “monumental error “of judgement to end ALL monumental errors

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  180. 180
    Engineer says:

    @ Anonymous – National Debt is rising (and will continue to rise as long as we run a deficit), consquently Debt Interest is rising, not falling – and certainly not by £35bn.

    As to your other questions, you’ll have to ask the Chancellor, not me.

  181. 181
    Judge Pickled says:

    See me in my chambers.

  182. 182
    Yoda says:

    Error there may be. Referendum needed it is.

  183. 183
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    Under incompetent extraordinary Brown there were 16,000 Ed Milliband type millionaires paying tax to the HMRC. Then his appointee Chancellor Darling put up the top rate of tax to 50%. Result only 6,000 millionaires paid tax and the envious incompetents lost £7 billion in income tax the following year. Figures from the HMRC.

  184. 184
    Jimmy says:

    Paranoid nonsense. If my views were forced on everyone who would I have left to laugh at?

  185. 185
    IMHO says:

    I couldn’t give a shit about DCs position on the EU whatever it now is and certainly not Bliars, the monumental error would be to allow a democratic vote of the people is what that the lying toe-rag is saying.

  186. 186
    M Thompson creaming it in suckers says:

    No worries, the British Broadcasting Communists will bury this when they’ve finished sweeping the Bush House paedo JS story under another carpet, although on both counts, lessons will be learnt………….again

  187. 187
    The voice of reason says:


  188. 188
    constituency trainbound says:

    paxo likes to change attitude and manner of interviewing according to the reaction his antics will produce ..if a interviewee is cool and controlled he loses the initiative and resorts to a more measured tone then pounces on the next person hoping to get a point of contradiction or mockery. Not much different to john humphreys who is generally objectionable regardless of subject matter.

    its what the bbc does..period

  189. 189
    Frank's son says:

    Yourself!! Afterall, we all laugh at you.

  190. 190
    constituency trainbound says:

    fuck off fat freak

  191. 191
    Anonymous says:

    Great story Guido.
    It’s almost as hypocritical as Margaret Oppenheimer Hodge questioning firms about tax avoidance…

  192. 192
    Great Gran from outside Shefield says:

    not H17 Sheffield lads?

    BOC are good stuff, don’t get me wrong.

  193. 193
    Great Gran from outside Sheffield says:

    by the way friend, was taught how to spell fish for a nidden measure, not that I am a bible basher at all, here it is how it goes, something like this, if i remember right,

    ghesi = fish, or something like that

  194. 194
    Great Gran from outside Sheffield says:

    My favorite paxo vids, and why not,




    bluddy j-boy

  195. 195
    Great Gran from outside Sheffield says:

    Uti? What about Shimla, Paxo?

  196. 196
    Network Rail Employee says:

    Don’t forget that Network Rail are based in the same building, so, ironically, we taxpayers are also on the hook for financing tax-dodgers. Good job!

  197. 197
    Anonymous says:

    It is not clear why leftist Guardian/BBC types are sometimes described as “the metropolitan elite”.

    In this metropolis, the social elite live in Mayfair, Chelsea or Belgravia. The financial elite are based in the City of London or in St. James’s.

    Guardian/BBC parasites live in shabby North London areas like Camden or Islington, all run by Labour councils leeching off money earned by other people, somewhere else.

    Although I suppose that does make sense, when you think about it.

  198. 198
    MasrterBator says:

    Peggy and Gonzo wanted a hard bone not a spinning bow tie.

  199. 199
    Digested, Tunbridge Wells says:


    The use of the words ‘hypocrisy’ and ‘the Guardian’ in the same sentence of your report is surely tautology?

    Yours faithfully

    Digested, Tunvbridge Wells

  200. 200
    mrjohn says:

    So if your landlord is convicted of a crime does that make you guilty by association?

    The Grauniad is not responsible for the tax affairs of its landlord.

  201. 201
    LibLab dictatorship says:

    Common Purpose gobshites all over the airwaves today. You WILL be controlled.

  202. 202
    Anonymous says:

    The Guardian simply rents space in the building. National Rail does too.

  203. 203
    Chimp Catcher says:

    If you want to learn how to lawfully and legally never pay taxes on your personal income, and never again pay for a TV license google and buy the book FREEDOM IS NOT JUST A SEVEN-LETTER WORD – and gander GRIFFIN WATCH, The New Griffin File, from time to time. Strong stuff on their.

  204. 204
    Chimp Catcher says:

    correction `their’ should be `there’.

    The above mentioned book’ ( ISBN 978 – 1 – 906169 – 31 – 2) is by Veronica Chapman. Using the advice and information within that book I successfully wiped-out a £7.500 debt owed to a bank, and am now going through the legal procedure for lawfully wiping out a £156,000 mortgage.

  205. 205
    Cinna says:

    F*** ‘em !

  206. 206
    Harper's Bizare says:

    Good grief I thought wearing a light sweater over a shirt and under a coat went out in the 60’s. It was usually worn by manufacturing engineers and union officials as well as technical college teachers.
    Do the Guardian do a fashion page? If so they should start work on their editors.

  207. 207
    BBC aka Bring Back Communism says:

    We have a string of young actor men, women and children groomed for such propaganda instances in attacking the current government on any successful, or in our view unsuccessful, actions and policies.
    Public opinion is piffle – we know best.

  208. 208
    Pundit too too says:

    37 years old, one son grown up, 4 years as a student and on 3 month sabatical as a “union leader” of students.
    I saw the film clips of her being elected and it made me wonder where on earth British educational political mindbending was going.
    Is she a Labour MP yet?

  209. 209
    Stalin's Ghost says:

    The left do not laugh at themselves. They are incapable of such an act as it is in their mission to convert people to their way of thinking, so frivolity and self searching is not acceptable.

  210. 210
    Big Fart says:

    +560,000,000 as I just won the powerball rollover.

  211. 211
    Big Fart says:

    Oops I meant 588,000,000.

  212. 212
    Pundit Too says:

    To be honest I have never heard them called elite by anyone other than themselves.

  213. 213
    Darren Cran says:

    How is the Guardian in any way responsible for its landlord’s tax affairs? I have no idea how the landlord to my business runs its tax affairs so why should the Guardian? This is too easy to pick apart as a non-story. You need to be careful not to pander to the loons Guido and protect your credibility.

  214. 214
    ironside says:

    32% of government revenue is spent on welfare.
    That is more than health and education combined.
    I think you’ll find that is where the real problem lies.

  215. 215
    Alex says:

    No fan of the Guardian but this story is a load of Ed Balls.

    So a London office block is owned by a German investment fund. Hardly in a tax haven. So the investment company doesn’t pay UK corporation tax because it isn’t engaged in a trade or business in the UK, and it doesn’t pay German tax on its UK rental income because it doesn’t have to under the UK German double taxation treaty, but its rental income is subject to UK income tax assessed under Schedule A (tax on income from United Kingdom land).

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