November 13th, 2012

Jury Finds Moran Committed 15 Counts of False Accouting

Hardly a surprise but good news nonetheless that a jury has found former Labour MP Margaret Moran fiddled her expenses to the tune of £53,000. She committed 15 counts of false accounting and six counts of using a false instrument, though the jury were instructed they could not find her guilty due to her mental health. She will be sentenced at a later date…


157 Comments

  1. 1
    Selohesra says:

    You forgot to put the false nose on :)

    • 10
      m.mORAN says:

      i CAN ATE ONE MORE tater than a pig

    • 26
      Rising Damp says:

      Guido, how can she be “sentenced” when she can’t be found “Guilty”?

      • 52
        Maximus says:

        Fuckwit of the Day. The Judge was issuing false instruction to the jury. They ignored him.

      • 124
        Anonymous says:

        I hope she will have to pay the £53,000 back, and i hope after the miraculous recovery she will got not be selected for any jobs that might cause her to have a relapse. I trust you will keep us posted Guido.

    • 74
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      Mental Ill-health can be so convenient can’t it.

      Keep up the pretense dear, this isn’t going away….you are!!!

      • 103
        Are all psychiatrists mad I ask says:

        ‘Far from the “exuberant personality” she once was, she latterly spent her days “walking the dog, doing some cooking and watching TV”, consultant psychiatrist Philip Joseph told a fitness to plead hearing in April held at Lewes crown court.’
        Guardian

        walking the dog?cooking?watching tv?
        And she’s not fit to stand trial?
        Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

        • 118
          Mrs Kindleysides, Penrith says:

          These lefties don’t like being caught out. And when they are caught red handed, they haven’t even got the backbone or integrity to put their hands up and say “I’m guilty” OR “I’m sorry”.

          Instead, they grovel and create illnesses, whilst insisting on their innocence.

          Cowardly behaviour to say the least.

        • 146
          dunstall says:

          by the look of her a lot of cokking fat bstard

          • Ivor Biggan says:

            a lot of cokking – fuck me – she’s a fat pig and a lying fat thieving pig at that – the fat thieving lying pig

      • 137
        Old Blue Eyes says:

        She couldn’t attend court because she was mentally unfit. She was also mentally unfit to be an MP but it didn’t stop her attending parliament. One has got to say that there are a lot of people in Luton who are mentally unfit to have a vote that they should have elected a nut case.

      • 150
        Whitestones says:

        Yes. I can see another “Ernest Saunders” miracle cure occurring in a few years time!

  2. 2
    Dennis McShane's Shed says:

    And now the miraculous recovery begins…..

    • 13
      Lord Mooncrater says:

      Amazing how quickly Guiness recovered from Alzheimers – err, a progressive disease with no chance of remission that eventually kills the victim – after his trial was abandoned.

      • 19
        smo­ggie says:

        You mean Ernest Saunders.

      • 24
        Glyn H says:

        Ernest Saunders was perhaps who you meant; and that creep Ronson is still pretending to be hard done by. He was a lot more bent than Conrad Black ever was! And why does Simin Thurlow be seen in the company of that Moran fellow who was srummed out of Lloyds; is there no integrity left in public life these days?

        Patten did I hear?

    • 21
      Ernest Saunders says:

      Well, it worked for me!

  3. 3
    Margaret Moran from her Spanish Estate says:

    I am so ill I have taken to my pool

  4. 4
    smo­ggie says:

    If she’s a nutter then send her to Broadmoor,

  5. 5
    Anon E Mouse says:

    Get in…. (jail)

  6. 6
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    Huhne next.

  7. 7
    Fuct says:

    Anyone really surprised?

    Jury ought to award the thieving cow an Oscar

  8. 8
    Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

    Bye-bye greedy fat piggy
    weee! weee!

  9. 11
    Ed Miliband (Leader of the Party opposite) says:

    You just can’t trust the Tories with the NHS.

    Fears for patient safety as 60,000 NHS jobs face the axe

    Health News

    The NHS is “sleepwalking” into a nursing crisis with thousands of frontline posts lost and training positions axed, the Government is warned today.

    • 14
      Ed Miliband says:

      I wish that I had actually gone on that NHS rally, rather than show-boating with rich football club owners.

    • 15
      Plato says:

      If you’ve been in a hospital in the last 10 years you’d know that ‘nursing’ is already in a crisis. Getting one who knows her arse from her elbow is a bonus.

    • 16
      Lord Mooncrater says:

      Well that still leaves 1,400,000 working in it. Isn’t that enough? Biggest employer on the planet except for the Chinese and Indian armies.

    • 17
      Maybe its Maybelline says:
    • 20
      HappyHour says:

      Is this another of the scare mongering stories from Liebour, hoping to scare the electorate into ignoring the party’s crimes?

      No sorry it’s from one of the ‘never satisfied no matter who’s in power’ groups! Probably hoccum, and Leibour will spin with it until there’s a commons debate and then miraculously never be there.

    • 75
      The pathological liar masquerading as Prime Minister says:

      I’ll cut the deficit, not the NHS

    • 108
      Laughing hangman says:

      Then why has the Intensive Care Unit I work in just recruited 17 staff and are looking for another 17. Oh and it is an NHS unit in a major hospital.

  10. 17
    Rob says:

    How can you sentence someone who hasn’t been found guilty?

    • 25
      Time 2 CTRL, ALT & DEL says:

      case law silly – ie judges make it up as they go along and totally ignore the wishes of those who enacted the law, that is provided ECHR agrees.
      Oh and if you can make the most incomprehensible decision, and one at odds to what Joe Public wants then that makes you a better judge. If you can generate an appeal even better – thats more money for the friends.

    • 28
      Perverse verdict says:

      If a jury finds someone guilty, they should be treated as being guilty

      • 60
        NE Frontiersman says:

        Absolutely: the jury is in charge, though every other agency in court resents the fact and tries to hide it. The jury should send in whatever verdict they see fit.

        • 88
          Sick of the lot of them says:

          Totally agree. The whole point of the court case was to determine whether she actually did the deeds of which she stands accused – or did not do them. i.e., Guilty or Not-Guilty. The Judge may then take her current mental state into account when handing down sentence, if he/she thinks appropriate. Thats the way the system is supposed to work.
          But for the Judge to direct the Jury to return a verdict of Not-Guilty due to her current mental state is seriously wrong. What it means is – the deeds of which she stands accused did not happen; she didnt do it! Thats what Not-Guilty means.
          Unfortunately, as NE Frontiersman says, the jury is probably not aware of the fact that they are in charge not the judge and that judge’s directions are in fact no more than requests – and can be completely ignored if the jury so wishes.
          What the judge could have done, is to rule that she is not fit enough to stand trial; in which case the court should be dissolved and no verdict would be reached.
          But if she is fit enough to stand trial then she is fit enough for the trial to reach a verdict based on the evidence. The jury should have told the judge to sod off.

          • The law IS an arse says:

            So, she will not face a criminal conviction due to her convenient ill health?

            F A R C E

    • 31
      smo­ggie says:

      Why have a jury if they need to be “instructed” what to decide?

      • 35
        Operation Ore with a D-Notice says:

        +1

      • 79
        Law 101 says:

        The Judge is the master of Law whilst the Jury are the master of facts.

        • 121
          1984 says:

          Nonsense. The jury are the master of both.

          Some time ago there was a case where a bunch of green activists were accused of destroying a field of GM crops.

          There was no question that they had in fact destroyed the crops. The Greens didn’t dispute the fact they simply said ‘What of it?’

          The jury found them ‘Not Guilty’. Why? Well, unlike the US where jury members are often interviewed after the trial, a UK jury doesn’t have to explain itself to anybody but I would suggest they found them ‘Not Guilty’ because enough jury members were sympathetic to their cause.

          And that’s exactly how it should be.

          If there is some rubbish law on the books that is, in the opinion of a jury, being misapplied or simply out-of-date or they simply don’t agree with it is within their exclusive power to return a ‘Not Guilty’ verdict and the judge can take a couple of steps back and go fuck himself.

      • 126
        Judge says:

        Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, do you find the defendant Not Guilty, or Not Guilty?

      • 149
        The wizz says:

        I would have thought that the Clerk of the Court would have advised the jury of their options. I am now completely bemused about our justice system, this case should be referred back to the Justice Ministry.

  11. 23

    She will have to act this charade out for the rest of her life because the moment she “recovers” we will be onto her. In that way, she will be the loser.

    We have very long memories over people who swindle us of our own money and we will find her when the time comes. She cannot hide.

    • 30
      HappyHour says:

      Please… the electorate of this nation has a memory like the proverbial goldfish. Happened today, forgotten about by tomorrow, replaced by either s*hit about celebs., or some nice propoganda from our trusty national broadcaster.

      Nice to see creepy Uncle Beeb has actually found the cahoots to put up an article on this subject… I await the next tory smear campaign to even out the scales…

      • 55

        Agree that the majority are like that but not all. Revenge is a dish which is best served cold. I have waited ten years or more in order to get people stuffed – quite legally – and I assure you it works.

  12. 29
    Justice Fingers says:

    I do hope none of the evidence used against this lady was not extracted through the use of torture.

  13. 32
    Hold the Front Page says:

    I think I see a Patten beginning to emerge here

  14. 34
    Denis MacShameless says:

    I will be doing some forced speed dating with this lady…

  15. 37
    Stepney says:

    Brilliant – so the fact she was stone cold sober when she committed the crimes counts for nothing?

    If the above logic applies then Adolf needn’t have topped himself, all he had to do was wait for the police, put a silly hat on and get a halfway decent brief and he’d’ve got off completely free.

    Justice, an ephemeral butterfly or what?

  16. 40
    Michael Fucking Parkinson says:

    I’ve met 100s of interesting people

  17. 41
    Abu Qatada says:

    This makes me embarrassed to be British

  18. 42
    Rent-a-Shrink says:

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    Need a judge to believe you’re not fit to stand trial? Need to avoid a lengthy and potentially embarrassing trial by having a psychiatrist deem you clinically depressed? Then don’t delay! Call Rent-a-Shrink today! I’ve had hundreds of satisfied customers!

    Mrs M Moran says: “I was caught stealing from the taxpayer and faced a trial and potential prison sentence. But thanks to Rent-a-Shrink, the judge declared I was unfit to stand trial. Thanks, Rent-a-Shrink. You saved me from the slammer!”

    So call me today and let me get you off the hook!

    • 73
      stroppycow-gooner4ever!!!!!! says:

      “Let me get you off the hook” – I presume you didn’t get the Hamza gig??

  19. 43
    1984 says:

    You can be confident that at some point in the future when somebody says ‘Margaret Moran is a convicted expenses crook’ that she will sue them on the grounds that she was never found guilty and that it is a terrible slur on her good name and reputation.

  20. 44
    Lord Cashpoint says:

    It was the ghost of Gordon Brown that signed these false accounts

  21. 45
    Aydodge E. Scheisster QC says:

    I told you the other day, it’s a finding that she did in fact do the act of which she stands accused, and as a result, may have her liberty curtailed, insofar as she may be mandated to seek treatment to be supervised by the Court (i.e., like being on probation), which will occur at her “sentencing,” but the whole idea is that they want to get the 53 grand from her just to deny unjust enrichment, as a warning to anyone else who tries this wheeze; as I said the other day, just ‘coz you’re not playing with a full pack of cards, that don’t mean you get to keep the dosh. A finding that she needs to be supervised, based on a “conviction” of sorts for her defalcations, would give them the right to find the 53K and take it.

  22. 46
    Historian of our times says:

    So we were governed by loony tune fiddling MPs?

    How many more will claim “mental breakdown” when their collars are felt?

    • 59
      Rat's arse says:

      Let’s just hope they bang her up in one of those urine soaked, evil smelling psych wards (yes, they still exist), and I bet you she’ll make a miraculous recovery.

      Plus, she either pays the money back, OR stays in there for the rest of her natural – her choice!

  23. 51
    geekparent says:

    Her health was fine until she got found out.

    • 61
      All the Parliamentary criminals says:

      It’s classic stuff..

      Look at all the Mafiosos who suddenly become “too ill” to attend trial…

      • 67
        1984 says:

        Or the police and other public-sector workers who, faced with an investigation (and possible loss of pension), retire on the grounds of ‘ill-health’.

        • 91
          stroppycow-gooner4ever!!!!!! says:

          Well I think she’s been fucking bonkers for quite awhile – she’s fucking Liebor after all !!!! AND fucking us taxpayers too!!

  24. 54
    NE Frontiersman says:

    This has to be cobblers: is she claiming that she was mentally unfit to be an MP, which is when the offences took place? Her state of mind now is not the point, though that is relevant to the sentence. Who’s the judge?

  25. 58
    Gilmore's Gimps can fuck off and do one. says:

    Parasites.

  26. 62
    Julian the Wonderhorse says:

    This is the woman who was caught on camera trying to sell her services to a fake lobbyist when she was apparently too ill to do any constituency work, according to her agent in Luton.

    Her mental state is shame at being caught and a blatant attempt to escape justice

  27. 65
    Margaret Moron says:

    All you nasty people saying horrible things about me! Do you think it’s easy pretending to be miserable and suicidal? Every time I leave my house, I have to remember to put a banana on my head and stick a crayon up my nose to play the part.

  28. 66
    anon. says:

    If she’s fit not be sent to prison then how about broadmoor?

  29. 68
    Gilmore's Gimps can fuck off and do one. Parasites says:

    Moran is an an idiot. Who is using mental illness to stay out of prison.

  30. 71
    Winnie the Pooh says:

    Gosh!

  31. 75
    Winnie the Pooh says:

  32. 78
    Diane Abott says:

    It’s all whitey’s fault.

  33. 83
    Anna Moeba says:

    Presumably her MPs pension has been withdrawn following these decisions?

  34. 84
    забыл says:

    Перестало работать после установки яндексовых приблуд. Когда AIMP устанавливал забыл что по умолчанию яндексовые панели ставятся после чего блокировка отключилась. В прошлый раз помогло включить только после удаление вех профилей и конфигов.

  35. 87
    ZIL9014 says:

    исчезла иконка с панели при отметке “включено” в настройках, прога перестала работать вообще. удивлён проблеме. попытки удалить и установить заново ничего не дали.

  36. 89
    Mystic Mog says:

    I predict a sudden and remarkable recovery!

    How coincidental that the judge went by the name of Saunders.

  37. 92
    David Wisteria says:

    What a greedy selfish bitch !

    At least you will not find women like her in the Conservative Party .

  38. 93
    Anonymous says:

    A very small percentage of a huge organisation overstep the mark by, nearly, implicating an establishment figure is a child abuse scandal of simply horrific proportions and depravity. The head of the organisation leaves within days and others there queue up to admit some responsibility, or at least to not deny it, while the powers that be order an immediate internal inquiry. I have no doubt that more heads will roll and soon.
    Compare and contrast with another organisation where 99% of the members committed arguably criminal offences, over a long period of time. The whole lot of them denied responsibility, fought tooth and nail to avoid exposure, invoked arcane laws to try and avoid prosecution, hid behind their leader who tried to invoke the FOI act to limit impact. Said leader is elevated to a life long sinecure in another part of the organisation. Less than 1% of the organisation are even subject to minor punishment, and many carry on doing their jobs as before. Within less than three years of this scandalous behaviour tens of members of the same organisation are once more committing similar offences.
    Who should throw the first stone?

  39. 99
    Peter (Lord to you) Mandelson says:

    Need a sweepstake on how many weeks after sentencing she is spotted quaffing sangria at her spanish pad.

  40. 100
    The Impartial observer says:

    Any idea of the sentence date? I’d imagine they’ll wait over the street parties in Orgiva until then. I really don’t want to miss being in Alessandro’s bar when the wine & tapas are being handed out, the fireworks go off & they burn the effigy down by the Rio Guadalfio. It’s a community thing, you know.

    http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2011/09/20/fraud-mp-weeps-in-court/

  41. 101
    Anonymous says:

    Why bother having a jury if the verdict is to be dictated by the judge?

    In any case if her accounting was indeed false then logically she must be guilty, regardless of what the judge says. Or have I misunderstood something?

  42. 113
    Anonymous says:

    Thieving bitch screws public again. These scum always stick together to fuck us plebs over. Burn in hell.

  43. 130
    Jonathan says:

    To be sentenced at a later date? What nonsense. She’s got away with it. As someone else has noted, in due course Moran will experience a complete recovery comparable to and nothing less miraculous than that enjoyed by Matthew Crawley in Downton Abbey!

  44. 131
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    If anything does happen to her (which I suspect it won’t), she will be suspended for just under the amount of time which precludes her from taking up her job again.

    Simples.

  45. 132
    GeoffM says:

    “Six counts of using a false instrument” ?

    Since when were dildo’s made illegal?

  46. 134
    Earl of Croydon says:

    This reminds me of the time that Sir Alex Fergusson was let off speeding on a motorway because his lawyer told the court he needed a shit.

    • 153
      Ben Tasall Getout says:

      “his lawyer told the court he needed a shit.”
      Another one? To compare notes with?

  47. 138
    Scoliosis says:

    This despicable parasite is an insult to anyone with mental health issues. Someone who suffers from severe depression cannot be arsed with farting around with expenses let alone decorating and furnishing. Moran is using mental health to get out of jail. She has succeeded while tarnishing people with mood disorders. Shame on her.

  48. 139
    I pay for you to watch Sky TV says:

    Is being a Labour MP sufficient evidence of insanity on its own?
    Voting Labour most certainly is, unless of course you are a dole scrounger.

  49. 154
    Ben Tasall Getout says:

    Since when you could avoid being tried and sentenced because you felt too ill to attend court and refused to enter a plea?
    When did that start?
    Goering and Himmler would have had laugh. They’d be Labour Lords by now.

  50. 156
    Boulton Paul Defiant says:

    String up the thieving tosspot.


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