Hardly a surprise but good news nonetheless that a jury has found former Labour MP Margaret Moran fiddled her expenses to the tune of £53,000. She committed 15 counts of false accounting and six counts of using a false instrument, though the jury were instructed they could not find her guilty due to her mental health. She will be sentenced at a later date…
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Andrew Pierce on Ed Balls…
“Porky Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls sweet-talked guests at a fund-raising dinner by saying if he wasn’t a politician, he would be a chef. That’s not surprising, since he was accused of cooking the Treasury books when he was Gordon Brown’s boot boy.”
is there anyone in the world that Tony hasnt screwed in some way?
You forgot to put the false nose on
i CAN ATE ONE MORE tater than a pig
Fucking disgusting fat pig. She’s got Irish ancestory and they’re a bunch of socialist crooks – worse than the Greeks.
Unlike the Jamacians
Who are drug dealers.
Guido, how can she be “sentenced” when she can’t be found “Guilty”?
Fuckwit of the Day. The Judge was issuing false instruction to the jury. They ignored him.
I hope she will have to pay the £53,000 back, and i hope after the miraculous recovery she will got not be selected for any jobs that might cause her to have a relapse. I trust you will keep us posted Guido.
Mental Ill-health can be so convenient can’t it.
Keep up the pretense dear, this isn’t going away….you are!!!
‘Far from the “exuberant personality” she once was, she latterly spent her days “walking the dog, doing some cooking and watching TV”, consultant psychiatrist Philip Joseph told a fitness to plead hearing in April held at Lewes crown court.’
Guardian
walking the dog?cooking?watching tv?
And she’s not fit to stand trial?
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
These lefties don’t like being caught out. And when they are caught red handed, they haven’t even got the backbone or integrity to put their hands up and say “I’m guilty” OR “I’m sorry”.
Instead, they grovel and create illnesses, whilst insisting on their innocence.
Cowardly behaviour to say the least.
The old – Act daft & get a free ride – routine has worked well here.
by the look of her a lot of cokking fat bstard
a lot of cokking – fuck me – she’s a fat pig and a lying fat thieving pig at that – the fat thieving lying pig
She couldn’t attend court because she was mentally unfit. She was also mentally unfit to be an MP but it didn’t stop her attending parliament. One has got to say that there are a lot of people in Luton who are mentally unfit to have a vote that they should have elected a nut case.
Yes. I can see another “Ernest Saunders” miracle cure occurring in a few years time!
And now the miraculous recovery begins…..
Amazing how quickly Guiness recovered from Alzheimers – err, a progressive disease with no chance of remission that eventually kills the victim – after his trial was abandoned.
You mean Ernest Saunders.
Thx for the correction.
Ernest Saunders was perhaps who you meant; and that creep Ronson is still pretending to be hard done by. He was a lot more bent than Conrad Black ever was! And why does Simin Thurlow be seen in the company of that Moran fellow who was srummed out of Lloyds; is there no integrity left in public life these days?
Patten did I hear?
Srummed – if that’s not a real word – it bloody well ought to be…..
Sorry, going to fast on iPhone, but glad you liked it!
er too! What with that and over enthusiastic text prediction!!
Well, it worked for me!
I am so ill I have taken to my pool
Glug glug glug glug
The End
If only.
If she’s a nutter then send her to Broadmoor,
Rampton would be more suitable…….
Get in…. (jail)
Huhne next.
Rubbish, he will get off. It was written
Anyone really surprised?
Jury ought to award the thieving cow an Oscar
or the EU Nobel Prize for theft
It makes MP criticising the BBC seem a bit rich.
Bye-bye greedy fat piggy
weee! weee!
You just can’t trust the Tories with the NHS.
Fears for patient safety as 60,000 NHS jobs face the axe
Health News
The NHS is “sleepwalking” into a nursing crisis with thousands of frontline posts lost and training positions axed, the Government is warned today.
I wish that I had actually gone on that NHS rally, rather than show-boating with rich football club owners.
If you’ve been in a hospital in the last 10 years you’d know that ‘nursing’ is already in a crisis. Getting one who knows her arse from her elbow is a bonus.
If you were allowed to pinch their arses they would soon learn
Well that still leaves 1,400,000 working in it. Isn’t that enough? Biggest employer on the planet except for the Chinese and Indian armies.
‘Well that still leaves 1,400,000 working in it’
Next time please use ‘employed’ rather than ‘working’ as the later has meanings I am sure you didn’t mean to make.
I’m making a lot of mistakes tonight. Thx for the correction.
There are 2 ‘ts’ in “latter”.
Most of them are managers and administrators driving Audis.
Ha ha ha ha ha
It would be more truthful to say that Labour are all shit-scared that Andrew Neil will tear them a new one. Far better to go on the Labour-friendly Andrew Marr show. He doesn’t ask any awkward questions.
But he might shove his hand down your crack if he fancies you.
Is that a make or female crack?
Burnham is a common liar. Worse than MacShane in sone respects. For goodness sake Burnham tell the truth for once.
Is this another of the scare mongering stories from Liebour, hoping to scare the electorate into ignoring the party’s crimes?
No sorry it’s from one of the ‘never satisfied no matter who’s in power’ groups! Probably hoccum, and Leibour will spin with it until there’s a commons debate and then miraculously never be there.
Burnham must be listening to a different programme than me.
I’ll cut the deficit, not the NHS
Then why has the Intensive Care Unit I work in just recruited 17 staff and are looking for another 17. Oh and it is an NHS unit in a major hospital.
Why do the NHS need a hangman in an ICU?
How can you sentence someone who hasn’t been found guilty?
case law silly – ie judges make it up as they go along and totally ignore the wishes of those who enacted the law, that is provided ECHR agrees.
Oh and if you can make the most incomprehensible decision, and one at odds to what Joe Public wants then that makes you a better judge. If you can generate an appeal even better – thats more money for the friends.
Charge him for that answer.
If a jury finds someone guilty, they should be treated as being guilty
Absolutely: the jury is in charge, though every other agency in court resents the fact and tries to hide it. The jury should send in whatever verdict they see fit.
Totally agree. The whole point of the court case was to determine whether she actually did the deeds of which she stands accused – or did not do them. i.e., Guilty or Not-Guilty. The Judge may then take her current mental state into account when handing down sentence, if he/she thinks appropriate. Thats the way the system is supposed to work.
But for the Judge to direct the Jury to return a verdict of Not-Guilty due to her current mental state is seriously wrong. What it means is – the deeds of which she stands accused did not happen; she didnt do it! Thats what Not-Guilty means.
Unfortunately, as NE Frontiersman says, the jury is probably not aware of the fact that they are in charge not the judge and that judge’s directions are in fact no more than requests – and can be completely ignored if the jury so wishes.
What the judge could have done, is to rule that she is not fit enough to stand trial; in which case the court should be dissolved and no verdict would be reached.
But if she is fit enough to stand trial then she is fit enough for the trial to reach a verdict based on the evidence. The jury should have told the judge to sod off.
So, she will not face a criminal conviction due to her convenient ill health?
F A R C E
Why have a jury if they need to be “instructed” what to decide?
+1
The Judge is the master of Law whilst the Jury are the master of facts.
Nonsense. The jury are the master of both.
Some time ago there was a case where a bunch of green activists were accused of destroying a field of GM crops.
There was no question that they had in fact destroyed the crops. The Greens didn’t dispute the fact they simply said ‘What of it?’
The jury found them ‘Not Guilty’. Why? Well, unlike the US where jury members are often interviewed after the trial, a UK jury doesn’t have to explain itself to anybody but I would suggest they found them ‘Not Guilty’ because enough jury members were sympathetic to their cause.
And that’s exactly how it should be.
If there is some rubbish law on the books that is, in the opinion of a jury, being misapplied or simply out-of-date or they simply don’t agree with it is within their exclusive power to return a ‘Not Guilty’ verdict and the judge can take a couple of steps back and go fuck himself.
“And that’s exactly how it should be.”
Not if it gets green loons of the hook, it should not!
in the uk the jury are there to just make up the numbers
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, do you find the defendant Not Guilty, or Not Guilty?
I would have thought that the Clerk of the Court would have advised the jury of their options. I am now completely bemused about our justice system, this case should be referred back to the Justice Ministry.
She will have to act this charade out for the rest of her life because the moment she “recovers” we will be onto her. In that way, she will be the loser.
We have very long memories over people who swindle us of our own money and we will find her when the time comes. She cannot hide.
Please… the electorate of this nation has a memory like the proverbial goldfish. Happened today, forgotten about by tomorrow, replaced by either s*hit about celebs., or some nice propoganda from our trusty national broadcaster.
Nice to see creepy Uncle Beeb has actually found the cahoots to put up an article on this subject… I await the next tory smear campaign to even out the scales…
Agree that the majority are like that but not all. Revenge is a dish which is best served cold. I have waited ten years or more in order to get people stuffed – quite legally – and I assure you it works.
I do hope none of the evidence used against this lady was not extracted through the use of torture.
Personally, I hope it was.
Way to go!
So would you rather
1) evidence is obtained fairly and is thus admissible in court
2) evidence is obtained through torture and thus inadmissible in court
Hmmmmm hard choice
Pity she would not be incarcerated in a place were she’d receive a hard one.
I think I see a Patten beginning to emerge here
His over-fed tummy first, by a long way
I will be doing some forced speed dating with this lady…
I’m playing with my Action Man
Brilliant – so the fact she was stone cold sober when she committed the crimes counts for nothing?
If the above logic applies then Adolf needn’t have topped himself, all he had to do was wait for the police, put a silly hat on and get a halfway decent brief and he’d've got off completely free.
Justice, an ephemeral butterfly or what?
I’ve met 100s of interesting people
But not one of them says the same about you dear.
F… Off back to Barnsley
This makes me embarrassed to be British
I’m neither embarrassed nor British. Just bare assed.
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“Let me get you off the hook” – I presume you didn’t get the Hamza gig??
You can be confident that at some point in the future when somebody says ‘Margaret Moran is a convicted expenses crook’ that she will sue them on the grounds that she was never found guilty and that it is a terrible slur on her good name and reputation.
It was the ghost of Gordon Brown that signed these false accounts
It was Fatcha wot started it
I told you the other day, it’s a finding that she did in fact do the act of which she stands accused, and as a result, may have her liberty curtailed, insofar as she may be mandated to seek treatment to be supervised by the Court (i.e., like being on probation), which will occur at her “sentencing,” but the whole idea is that they want to get the 53 grand from her just to deny unjust enrichment, as a warning to anyone else who tries this wheeze; as I said the other day, just ‘coz you’re not playing with a full pack of cards, that don’t mean you get to keep the dosh. A finding that she needs to be supervised, based on a “conviction” of sorts for her defalcations, would give them the right to find the 53K and take it.
So are you saying she will not be going down, but simply will have to return the money?
She will sell the rights to her story to some muck raking redtop
That will may all the bills…
She may soon have to go down to get some money!
Correction
“defalcations” should read “defecations”
Defaceting on the Parlimentary Estate is forbidden
Are you sure about that?
You nicked my moniker and you’re awful, but I like you!
It DOES kinda describe what she’s been doing, trying to shit us and shit all over us, innit?
And knowing our Justice system , the tax payer will have to pay out triple that figure to get it back. I’ve decided on the torture, fuck the courts.
So we were governed by loony tune fiddling MPs?
How many more will claim “mental breakdown” when their collars are felt?
Let’s just hope they bang her up in one of those urine soaked, evil smelling psych wards (yes, they still exist), and I bet you she’ll make a miraculous recovery.
Plus, she either pays the money back, OR stays in there for the rest of her natural – her choice!
Her health was fine until she got found out.
It’s classic stuff..
Look at all the Mafiosos who suddenly become “too ill” to attend trial…
Or the police and other public-sector workers who, faced with an investigation (and possible loss of pension), retire on the grounds of ‘ill-health’.
Well I think she’s been fucking bonkers for quite awhile – she’s fucking Liebor after all !!!! AND fucking us taxpayers too!!
This has to be cobblers: is she claiming that she was mentally unfit to be an MP, which is when the offences took place? Her state of mind now is not the point, though that is relevant to the sentence. Who’s the judge?
We are all from the same stable you know
There is honour among thieves
So the judge is a horse. That explains everything.
Parasites.
This is the woman who was caught on camera trying to sell her services to a fake lobbyist when she was apparently too ill to do any constituency work, according to her agent in Luton.
Her mental state is shame at being caught and a blatant attempt to escape justice
Sociopaths like Moran don’t feel shame because they don’t have a conscience.
All you nasty people saying horrible things about me! Do you think it’s easy pretending to be miserable and suicidal? Every time I leave my house, I have to remember to put a banana on my head and stick a crayon up my nose to play the part.
If she’s fit not be sent to prison then how about broadmoor?
In a cell next to Brodie or Sutcliffe
Moran is an an idiot. Who is using mental illness to stay out of prison.
Whos the idiot ?
Gosh!
I wouldn’t be so happy love. Your party represents holocaust deniers, shariah law, and i doubt you’ll be allowed to see the light of day once your paty’s supoprters run the place.
Why isn’t Yvonne wearing her burka.
A classic case of Stockholm syndrome.
Identifying with her kidnappers.
As Livingstone once said if voting made any difference they would abolish it.
It’s all whitey’s fault.
Presumably her MPs pension has been withdrawn following these decisions?
*points to sky*
Look, a flying pig!
Перестало работать после установки яндексовых приблуд. Когда AIMP устанавливал забыл что по умолчанию яндексовые панели ставятся после чего блокировка отключилась. В прошлый раз помогло включить только после удаление вех профилей и конфигов.
Yes,
третий бен мусора на право
исчезла иконка с панели при отметке “включено” в настройках, прога перестала работать вообще. удивлён проблеме. попытки удалить и установить заново ничего не дали.
No.
Извините, я имел в виду третий слева
I predict a sudden and remarkable recovery!
How coincidental that the judge went by the name of Saunders.
What a greedy selfish bitch !
At least you will not find women like her in the Conservative Party .
At least you won’t find ones stupid enough to get caught!
A very small percentage of a huge organisation overstep the mark by, nearly, implicating an establishment figure is a child abuse scandal of simply horrific proportions and depravity. The head of the organisation leaves within days and others there queue up to admit some responsibility, or at least to not deny it, while the powers that be order an immediate internal inquiry. I have no doubt that more heads will roll and soon.
Compare and contrast with another organisation where 99% of the members committed arguably criminal offences, over a long period of time. The whole lot of them denied responsibility, fought tooth and nail to avoid exposure, invoked arcane laws to try and avoid prosecution, hid behind their leader who tried to invoke the FOI act to limit impact. Said leader is elevated to a life long sinecure in another part of the organisation. Less than 1% of the organisation are even subject to minor punishment, and many carry on doing their jobs as before. Within less than three years of this scandalous behaviour tens of members of the same organisation are once more committing similar offences.
Who should throw the first stone?
Us
You miss the point. It’s all the corrupt, privileged, public schooled, left-leaning Establishment. I say burn it all down.
Need a sweepstake on how many weeks after sentencing she is spotted quaffing sangria at her spanish pad.
Any idea of the sentence date? I’d imagine they’ll wait over the street parties in Orgiva until then. I really don’t want to miss being in Alessandro’s bar when the wine & tapas are being handed out, the fireworks go off & they burn the effigy down by the Rio Guadalfio. It’s a community thing, you know.
http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2011/09/20/fraud-mp-weeps-in-court/
Why bother having a jury if the verdict is to be dictated by the judge?
In any case if her accounting was indeed false then logically she must be guilty, regardless of what the judge says. Or have I misunderstood something?
Because most people do not realise that any judge who ‘directs’ a jury is interfering with the jury. Which is a crime in itself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushel%27s_Case
The jury is judge and jury. The judge can go fuck himself.
Thieving bitch screws public again. These scum always stick together to fuck us plebs over. Burn in hell.
To be sentenced at a later date? What nonsense. She’s got away with it. As someone else has noted, in due course Moran will experience a complete recovery comparable to and nothing less miraculous than that enjoyed by Matthew Crawley in Downton Abbey!
I.d pay to watch her give Lady Mary one!
If anything does happen to her (which I suspect it won’t), she will be suspended for just under the amount of time which precludes her from taking up her job again.
Simples.
“Six counts of using a false instrument” ?
Since when were dildo’s made illegal?
This reminds me of the time that Sir Alex Fergusson was let off speeding on a motorway because his lawyer told the court he needed a shit.
“his lawyer told the court he needed a shit.”
Another one? To compare notes with?
This despicable parasite is an insult to anyone with mental health issues. Someone who suffers from severe depression cannot be arsed with farting around with expenses let alone decorating and furnishing. Moran is using mental health to get out of jail. She has succeeded while tarnishing people with mood disorders. Shame on her.
Is being a Labour MP sufficient evidence of insanity on its own?
Voting Labour most certainly is, unless of course you are a dole scrounger.
Since when you could avoid being tried and sentenced because you felt too ill to attend court and refused to enter a plea?
When did that start?
Goering and Himmler would have had laugh. They’d be Labour Lords by now.
String up the thieving tosspot.