November 10th, 2012

Saturday Seven Up


651 Comments

  1. 1
    Joey Deacon says:

    First

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      Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

      So, according to a former NN editor on toady: ‘it’s the cuts’ that has led them to behave the way they have.

      Ergo, it’s the Tories fault.

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        CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

        you couldn’t make it up!

        Newsnight may soon be cut all together, followed by the whole of the BBC

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          Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

          It looks like the old adage ‘Give them enough rope . . . ‘

          The bBBc have been so carried away for the last two and a half years with slaging off the Conservatives (without any Tory fight back) that when their battle stalled due to the Saville affair, they redoubled their efforts and started lashing out blindly with really serious allegations probably in the hope to deliver the coup de grace and get their socialist mates back on top, and have now come right un-stuck.

          Begs the question was lefty Dave hoping for this or has he just had a lucky get out?

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          • CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

            The BBC has been living a lie for decades. At some point, all this degenerate filth, that they have been sitting on, was going to explode into public view.

            This wasn’t a political attack on the BBC, it was just the past catching up with them, that they have responded to, in time-honoured BBC fashion, by launching a political assault on the Conservatives.

            But after phone-hacking (a Labour cover-up scandal) that the BBC tried to turn on Cameron, because he hired Coulson. Cameron and the Conservatives, must be quietly very chuffed, watching the BBC sink under far worse allegations.

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          • Anonymous says:

            BBC have messed it up. This would not have happened if the 1st inquiry and police has done a proper job years ago.

            Only thing that is certain is that there was abuse not just in North Wales and it never got fully investigated. The reason for this has to come out.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Do you not see this was actually an attempt to discredit Whistle blowers.

            He was not listened to for years and now with Savile suddenly had a voice that would be heard. The BBC did not do any investigation, not even showing him photographs or checking the basic details of the accused person.

            Now it is clear that both the Police and the investigative journalist route is not available. So guess who is safe?

            This is a distraction crime requiring the setting up a victim.

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          • The Ministry of Truth says:

            I think the BBC should be broken up into smaller companies, rather like the old ITV regions, and then sold off.

            The current arrangement has to stop. I object to paying for such poor journalism.

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          • Anonymous says:

            The Ministry of Truth, I don’t care how it is done but TV licence fee should be abolished. Could be pay as you go, advertisement, or combination of both.

            Broadcasting market should be open up in such a way there are more providers, that include more satellite TV as well.

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          • The BBC is a pile of crap. says:

            “I object to paying for such poor journalism.”

            Me too. I also object to paying for documentaries that are ruined by rock music instrumentals that drown-out whatever the presenter is trying to say (take note, Professor Brian Cox).

            So I don’t pay, and haven’t paid for more than 10 years.

            They produce dumbed-down drivel, and I don’t pay for it. It’s not a perfect arrangement, but it works.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            There is further evidence of cover ups going back to Operation Countryman [MET corruption] – initially investigated by Arthur Hambleton – who’s obituary appeared in the Telegraph on tuesday 6th November 2012

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          • AC1 says:

            BBC Documentary

            This is a science program
            This is a science program
            This is a science program
            About atoms, but not really, it’s about people who investigate atoms
            About atoms, but not really, it’s about people who investigate atoms
            About atoms, but not really, it’s about people who investigate atoms
            etc
            etc
            etc

            Rather annoying
            Rather annoying
            Rather annoying

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          • Anonymous says:

            fight or flight.
            2 basic emotions from the animal kingdom.
            where is the integrity?

            abusers fight for attention.
            the abused run away.
            an imbalance is at the heart.
            it takes courage to be still. ..The lizard feeds of your anxiety.
            so be still.
            do less,
            do better.

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    • 21
      suissebob says:

      Nice to see that Labour party front The Bureau of Investigative Journalism screw themselves, thick wankers.

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      • 44
        Journo says:

        Investigative journalism as in copy and paste what dodgy internet sites are saying, but don’t do any investigation themselves, like we f***ing pay them to.

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        • 184
          Pawn Sandwich says:

          If you are pointing a finger at the Conservatives then the burden of truth is far lower. Bring politics into the media and you should get shut down.

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        • 186
          Mr P Schofield says:

          We are all investigative journalists these days, a 3 minute search on the internet ensures that.

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        • 473
          Blowing Whistles says:

          well, well, let’s just hold on there a moment – wasn’t it one Alistaire Campbell who produced a “dodgy dossier” when he did an internet trawl and cut and pasted lots of gash from some students thesis?

          Ho hum – Alistarie alcy Campbell – If the shoe fits wear it you psychotic 5hit for brains delusional scumbag.

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      • 77
        Anonymous says:

        We had Bloody Sunday, Hillsborough Disaster, etc what happened to the initial cover up? Has anyone been punished yet? Lots of people even don’t believe the inquiry on Iraqi war also there is one in Scotland, outcome of it cannot come out for 100 years.

        We should have an inquiry to see how we ended up with cover ups in inquiry.

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          V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

          It’s really refreshing to see the BBC collapsing under its own bias. Maybe now they’ll close it down and stop this vicious TV tax that will rise continuously under Labour.

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          • Robin says:

            It would never have happened in my Day.

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          • Anonymous says:

            I am not certain BBC is biased but I agree tv licencing is unfair. BBC should be allowed to advertise and use that revenue to run the itself.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Junior hacks on local papers are taught to not take anything on face value and never to lift stories from other sources without completing their own checks.
            How can BBC journalists get it so wrong?

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          • Anonymous says:

            Even cases police take to courts have collapsed does that means we shouldn’t have a police force?

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          • Mr Nobody says:

            The BBC is certainly biased – occasionally blatantly so, though usually it’s more subtle. Sometimes it’s even impartial. But there is no denying that there is a leaning to the left within its ranks which is apparent in its output.

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          cower to the crowd says:

          Bloody Sunday….the cover up of all cover up where the demand for ‘justice’ was simply a demand to exonerate the IRA who fired the first shots of the day and ignore the rioting of the illegal marchers, you mean?

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          Fluffy the Destroyer says:

          Rule No. 1: When ever your see or hear the word ‘enquiry’ translate to ‘coverup’.

          Thankyou.

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          • Anonymous says:

            when you inquire you get some info. our awareness goes up, but only if we have the capacity to become more aware. rest is …well.

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          Dodgy Dossier ? What Dodgy Dossier ? says:

          It is generally accepted by the left that Chilcot will deliver the verdict that the Iraqi War was the fault of the Tories and IDS..if they had voted with the LibDems against the war then not only would the war probably not have happened but Bliar and the Labour Government would have fallen…essentially the facts for the history books will be that Labour despite being the government at the time was completely innocent of involving the country in an illegal war or of allegedly lying to the country and Parliament at the despatch box

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          • Anonymous says:

            That Tony Blair aided and abetted by Alistair Campbell, misled Parliament on the strength of the intelligence on WMD is ” beyond doubt”.

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          • Pawn Sandwich says:

            Labour had a massive majority at the time. Parliament tend to unify before sending troops into war.

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          • Anonymous says:

            we were used.
            bliar showed callousness beyond.
            abusers actions are always beyond belief.
            it is our poverty of imagination, that the ex BBC DG spoke of.
            we
            are
            .
            restricted by our consciousness. we need to take psy.cho..logical risks and look at the world slowly.
            Gangnam style.

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          • Tony Bliar, 33° Royal Arch Mason says:

            I was in an impossible position. My fellow 33° Mason, George W Bush, had received intelligence from the CIA, after I imposed a ‘D’ notice on Operation Ore, that my Government was full of Nonces in high positions. George, despite my protestations and Craft loyalty, threatened to expose these Nonces if we did not go to war with him. If this had happened my Government would have fallen. Consequently Alastair and I created the dodgy dossier and we went to war with Iraq. Tubalcain.

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          Expat Geordie says:

          Bloody Sunday. Paddy fired first and lost big style.

          Paddy was the one who lied about it so that he could get a seat at the top table. Unofficial estimates were that up to 30 paddies were killed that day, not 13, and that there were a lot of secret burials on the other side of the border over the next few days. Paddy got his arse kicked anddidn’t like it.

          There was no British cover up about it. To say that there was is to slander/libel a lot of good men, many of whom are now dead, including a VC recipient (Soldier T – Pvt I J McKay, 1 Para Mortar Platoon, later Sgt 3 Para).

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    • 102
      just die you twat says:

      Oh God, I see that tedious bastard Campbell is in the papers again whinging about his alcoholism this time ——>

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      • 111
        Poor me poor me pour me another says:

        I’ll save my sympathy for the families of soldiers killed in his illegal war.

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          ác1 says:

          Parliament approved it, so it wasn’t illegal.

          Use another term.

          /pedant

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          • Where are those WMDs? says:

            Dodgy

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          • Pawn Sandwich says:

            Illegal under International Law.

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          • ác1 says:

            International Law is an oxymoron.

            Law is national.

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          • Expat Geordie says:

            Parliament didn’t have to approve it to be legal. It was actually the first war to be approved by Parliament before it happened, so it was probably the most democratic war that we have ever thought.

            You’re right, it certainly wasn’t illegal.

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          • Anonymous says:

            laws exist to prevent law of the jungle.
            why do international courts exist.
            legal actions can be taken based on a lie.
            democracy can be in name only. we have civil thoughts but somehow our actions are indecent.
            schizophrenic us,

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        Monty Don is pissed again. Don't give the Alky pished up Labour plants a bean. says:

        I am always pished at the crack of dawn. It is the pressure of keeping up this lefty farse at the BBC. I think I will stick 2 types of celery up my arse.

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      • 163
        Journo says:

        Oh god. Spare me the tedium of having to listen to insufferable stories about his inner ‘demons’.

        Why doesn’t he just go on one big final mother of all benders, like Nicholas Cage in ‘Leaving Las Vegas’, and have done with it.

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    • 569
      ác1 says:

      IMHO terrible case of suicide.

      http://preview.tinyurl.com/bz7wtjp

      Case closed.

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  2. 2
    Toby Bellend says:

    http://www.monbiot.com/
    George Monbiot – Tell people something they know already and they will thank you for it. Tell people something new and they will hate you for it.

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    Parkler says:

    Silent Bobs comment is awaiting moderation.

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  4. 4
    Article 38 says:

    Newsnight’s paedophile investigations are being undertaken with all the skill of a blind man playing Whack-a-Mole.

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      Selohesra says:

      If only that were the case. BBC going into overdrive about journalistic errors – admitting this to deflect from real issue that they were so excited about opportunity to attack ‘senior tories’ and smear Thatcher that they were not going to let facts or integity get in their way.

      If ever there was case for judicial enquiry it is now – what links are there between Watson, Labour and this story?

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      • 228
        ác1 says:

        BIJ=Labour=BBC

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      • 344
        Anonymous says:

        saville and bbc.
        savile and Tory right.
        savile and royal circles. savile and the police.

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        • 349
          Anonymous says:

          one hook.
          so many connections.
          and not one Abu Hamza in sight.

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          • Anonymous says:

            do our abu hamza’s shape shift.
            They do not look physically ugly or scary.
            but then do we see them.
            up close. they do reveal themselves in their name so.vile savile but do we care. was he a close confidant of lady di … and we all kept chanting di, di di.
            and she died.
            all very irrational.

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    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    The McAlpine retraction by the media, is now a good excuse to ignore allegations against the 30 odd BBC employees, past and present, who are currently under police investigation, same with any Labour connected people. The BBC and media can say “look what happened last time”.

    Makes you wonder if was all dug-up to help sweep the BBC allegations under the media carpet. After-all, the media have been ignoring it for decades anyway.

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      My Say says:

      The exposure of the whole Welsh Care Homes affair at this time, and the way it was done, clearly looks like a BBC/Labour plan to divert attention from the current BBC scandals. Because it was directly targeted at the Tories, and indirectly took a swipe at Fatchur, it easily and joyously got through the “editorial process” – no doubt fast-tracked. The BBC – institutionally Socialist, and no longer fit for purpose.

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        Fatgit-son says:

        I love it when a plan comes together.

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      • 43
        eh eh?? says:

        Spot on! The BBC is a cesspit of cultural marxism. Scrap the licence fee now. Let’s stop funding this leftie/liberal propaganda machine.

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        eh eh?? says:

        Spot on. The BBC are a cesspit of cultural marxism pouring out leftie/liberal propaganda to the masses.

        Shame the Tories have such weak, pinko leaders in place. They should be pushing to scrap the licence fee.

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          Beast says:

          The licence fee was meant to ensure the BBC was free of external pressures and corruption. sadly the corruption now lies within. There are certain divisions within the BBC that are totally corrupt, without the pressure of having to make a profit and being accountable jobs and certain contracts are awarded to friends of friends, and are not based on value for money or ability to deliver. The private sector is actually cleaner as it needs to make a profit. Within the BBC the attitude is “well its somebody else’s money”

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    genghiz the kahn says:

    Until I read Ffion Hague’s book about Lloyd George, I was unaware that the great man had been rogering Roberta MacAlpine.

    Ex Premier shagged his daughter in Law.

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    Red Ed says:

    We wouldn’t have this happen if the BBC ran all the media and we abolished the Tories.

    Then we’d have the truth as people require, not all these distractions.

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    • 16
      Fatgit-son says:

      BBC only control 70 % of the media but one 100% of the truth.

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      Tony Eden from Eton says:

      I have started watching Al Jazeera .

      it is excellent and absolutely free .

      Start watching Al Jazeera .

      You wont miss BBC at all .

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        Kenny says:

        I prefer Russia Today, far more informative, far more objective.

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        • 47
          Mitt Romney says:

          Fox is reasonably accurate too

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        • 91
          RagingBull says:

          Are you completely insane? Putin’s main state media outlet “objective”? It gives a different perspective to our biased media outlets yes, but don’t kid yourself that it’s objective!

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          • Leftie says:

            They suit us socialists and arabists.

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          • Your Friendly Neighbourhood Media Bias Analysis Service says:

            The thing is, don’t believe whatever they say as far as internal matters go. Of course, as with BBC, it’s bound to be skewed. However, RT, al-Jazeera, and numerous other outlets provide external news to other nations that those nations probably won’t hear very much on their own state broadcaster. For them to have any credibility, they can’t slant the news too much lest they lose audience share– yeah, they DO compete, you know, with each other! They take the WWII Voice of America tack– “You know who we are, you know what we believe in, OK, we’re not exactly neutral in all this, but if we are FACTUALLY wrong, as opposed to our interpretation of what’s going on, then don’t listen. If we’re getting our asses whipped in the Netherlands, we’ll tell you that– if the Germans are getting theirs whipped in Northern France, how quick do you think they’ll tell you about it? Probably when Joe and Tommy show up at your door! At least trust us to get our facts straight, and you can do the interpreting yourself, if you don’t like our take on it!” Of course, there’s always the question of whether they are reporting something which is in fact the case, but that BBC or another state broadcaster does not deem “newsworthy,” in their humble journalistic opinion. That’s more like the FOXNews tack– “The ‘Big Boys’ think you shouldn’t hear this, folks, can you trust them to get it right?” Most fair assessments of FOX, beyond the “FOX lies!” mantra, argue that by their self-confessed wariness of buying into the NYTimes/WashPost idea of the precedence of what stories should be reported, FOX expresses an editorial viewpoint that skews the news. Again, the WWII VoA challenge arises– prove us wrong on the actual facts if you can! RT and al-Jazeera can at least serve as a FOXNews of sorts– “Here’s OUR idea of what should be reported– line it up against the BBC, and make up your own mind whether you’re getting the straight story!”

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    • 19
      genghiz the kahn says:

      Other then 4 main channels, News24, 4 national radio stations, 30+ local radio stations, a website and magaizines, how much market share does this behometh have over broadcast news and current affairs?

      It was always odd that Leveson ignored the culture, practices and ethics of the BBC when he had his famous inquiry, but even the great judge would be hard pressed to find integrity at Newsnight.

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  8. 15
    Nadine's left nipple says:

    Rather than wasting your time on this site writing utter crap why don’t you all do something really really useful.

    Why don’t you volunteer to be a Maternity Buddy or better still become a ChIld Care Buddy ?

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    anon. says:

    Disgusting.

    The inane Owen Jones was on Radio 5 along with others and he has now brought LORD ASHCROFTS name into the mix of the BBC Newsnight pedo ring fiasco.

    Listen from 2:13.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nphf6/Stephen_Nolan_09_11_2012/

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  10. 25
    nellnewman says:

    TomWatson has gone remarkably quiet in last couple of days. Is he hiding or something?

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      lol says:

      As a self-styled anti-paedo campaigner, perhaps Fat Tom’s investigating the role of Labour politicians in Dunblane and Operation Ore?

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    • 55
      Tom Watson says:

      I’ve managed to get Tory,Thatcher and child abuse all spoken in one breath,if I can just add a Murdoch that would be great.
      Here kiddy kiddy kiddy tell uncle Tom what he wants to hear.
      I promise I’ll pretend to give a fuck.

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        Expat Geordie says:

        Wasn’t the “Lord McAlpine” also known to the victim as “Tom”?

        Just a thought but perhaps Watson DOES know more about this than he is letting on.

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    • 63
      Watson using other people's pain for political gain says:

      The master of self deception-Watson- is in meltdown and has taken to comfort eating. Eating a whole sheep as we speak, plotting on how to continue to pull the wool over our eyes. The public will not be fooled.

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      Mornington Crescent says:

      Indeed, Nell. Not a peep from Watson or his party – including Schnorbitz. The bandwagon must be in for a service.

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    • 253
      Rip van Wrinkle says:

      Tom Watson….hide? Do me a favour. He’s the original elephant in the room.

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    Anonymous says:

    Is it not wonderful to see our socialist millionaires (with our money) at the BBC and their incestuous partners at the Grauniad in such deep doo-doo?
    With a bit of luck the latter will be taken to the cleaners and just go bust.
    As far as the BBC is concerned one can but hope but with that buffoon Cameron in charge hope is all we have.

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    lol says:

    Why are we being forced to pay a £145 licence tax to fund the lies and propaganda of the BBC?

    They shamelessly attack a Tory in order to divert attention from the mess in their own backyard using this so-called witness Meesham who is either a fuckwit or has been bought off. For 20 years he claims a particular senior Tory abused him and now he says he’s just seen a picture of this man and it isn’t him after all. He’s either a liar or a cretin but certainly not a credible witness.

    Meanwhile it’s gone quiet on the Savile/BBC perv issue and don’t even mention Labour’s involvement in the Dunblane cover-up and Operation Ore.

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    • 49
      Mornington Crescent says:

      Then don’t have a licence, you arse.

      I gave up my TV (and, thus, the licence) 3 years ago. I get my news from the papers and online (incl. the BBC); I listen to the radio; on the very rare occasions I see a programme in the listings that might be interesting, I watch it online after broadcast.

      Stop whingeing and act.

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      • 129
        Horace says:

        Yep, for advice on how to outwit the BBC’s goons, any search engine is your pal. Try “TV licence” for starters.

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      • 219
        Ted says:

        Mornington Crescent: you’re the ‘arse’ if you’re too thick or too naive to understand that 90% of the British people are sheep who will continue to pay the BBC licence tax so long as the law requires them to do so.

        The only way to deal with the BBC and it’s corrosive leftist/liberal brainwashing is to scrap the licence tax, but don’t expect the useless Tories to do it anytime soon.

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    • 60
      Sir WW says:

      The licence fee is doomed in the medium-term, because young people setting up on their own for the first time will not bother with a conventional telly. They may have a nice big plasma screen but it will be supplied by the internet or a DvD. Just as the previous group ceased to bother to install a telephone landline, the present lot won’t see the need for a cable or satellite subscription.

      The BBC will at some point have to ask for funding out of general taxation. An increasing number of people will however not understand why they should help pay for an obsolescent form of communication that they do not use.

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  13. 34
    Kebab,The Lefty Tosser says:

    The establishment are using Newsnight like a bulldozer to bury the abuse story and deflect blame everywhere. Don’t be fooled.

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  14. 35
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    £10,000 to stuff a 20-foot python?

    That’s about £42 an inch.

    Is that the going rate for getting stuffed in London?

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  15. 36
    CCHQ says:

    Great work,Guido,keep it up old chap.

    “This week a massive 232,912 visitors visited 504,472 times viewing 870,098 pages”

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  16. 37
    eh? says:

    Now they have been exposed again as shit-stirring liars, why are we still being forced, on pain of jail, to finance the BBC and their anti-Tory leftie-liberal outpourings?

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    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Can’t work out if humphrys (on toady right now) is having a heart-to-heart with george entwistle or tony blair, they sound so much alike.

    Still according to tony entwistle ‘lesons will be lernt’.

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    BBC -Master of Misdirection-Mr Tricky Dicky says:

    The Newsshite team were falling over themselves, eager to suck on Mr Tricky’s dicky they ended up being fooked up the arse with their own dildo. Serves them right.

    What next? evil pranks while reading the weather? Subliminal and suggestive hidden political messages?The evil controlled tory constituency Corby will send deep chilling shivers right to your spine. Make sure you are well protected from these chilling conditions. We do not want you turning Blue? A different climate however in Liverpool labour controlled areas areas which will feel warm, cheery with a spring like breeze giving your cheeks a nice Red rosey glow.

    The BBC is sad and pathetic.

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  19. 53
    George Osborne says:

    Today I will spend two hundred and fifty million pounds more than I receive from taxation. This is a perfectly sensible, sustainable idea.

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    • 62
      Sir Merv says:

      That’s perfectly O.K.

      I will Q.E. some more cash first thing Monday. Will £15 billion cover this month for you? Don’t want to over do it and wake up the stupid plebs now do we?

      P.S. The Peerage you and Dave promised me is still coming through, isn’t it? I really do fancy becoming Lord Threadneedle.

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    • 86
      Joss Taskin says:

      Didn’t the Libor ‘government’ leave you a reserve from those boom years ?

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  20. 54
    Journo says:

    It’s the Messham guy I really feel sorry for. He was brave to come forward a second time the way he did, only to have aspersions cast on him.

    There seems to be a touch of the old ‘putting the kettle in the fridge and blaming it on the wife to convince her she’s going mad’ going on here. None of this would be an issue if the police hadn’t destroyed photographic evidence. It’s easy to deny any involvement now the photos have gone.

    There’s a touch of Karin Ward’s story about all this. She was dismissed as a fantasist by some when she first made her allegations, especially when Freddie Starr attacked her and called her a liar.

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    • 66
      Synic says:

      What is on Meesham’s C.V. ? He looks and behaves like your average bent plod.

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    • 67
      Tom Watson says:

      Came forward or was brought forward?
      My desire to single handedly destroy Murdoch and the Conservatives know’s no bounds.

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    • 79
      Gaslighting says:

      It is all a bit strange. The poor guy will be kicking himself. I reckon the Newsshite team were encouraging Messham towards naming Mkalpyne. It is shoddy sinister journalism.

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    • 125
      The public says:

      He was being manipulated by socialists. It is evil to exploit vulnerable people in this way.

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      • 248
        Synic says:

        More likely he got a whiff of potential compensation from the taxpayer for imagined or exaggerated incidents, and was encouraged by dodgy lawyers and the corrupt incompetent BBC staff.

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  21. 57
    Backwoodsman says:

    If only CMD had listened to us 2 years ago – scrap the bbc and all liebour quango appointees on day one, we told him. Save the country 5 or 6 billion pounds and yourself a bunch of grief.
    But no, he surrounds himself with a bunch of mini-me’s , with PPE degrees and shit happens.

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    • 243
      ác1 says:

      Should be called PPK degree, it’s Keynesianism they’re taught, not economics.

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    • 320
      Anonymous says:

      the prefect way to have a good life is to relocate.
      obscure Italian location.
      nice.
      protected.

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    • 414
      bergen says:

      Yes-lots of us here made the point in 2010 but Dave is far too much the “gent”. Sadly he will lose and deserves to.He does not possess the passion and anger needed to destroy the BBC and so they will destroy him instead.

      Even now with it in pieces in front of him, he’s not going to do anything at all.

      But I must record that John Humphreys was superb in dismantling Entwistle.They’ll never ever properly reassemble the bits.

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    Mornington Crescent says:

    If you can bear it, look at the Bureau of Inv. Journalism’s site this morning, running a story saying Messham apologises – really dropping him in it. Not a hint of an apology from them and… comments are not allowed on the article. Utter, utter bastards.

    http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/11/10/abuse-victim-steven-messham-apologises-to-lord-mcalpine/#respond

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    • 76
      Hugh Janus says:

      Not overly impressed then, MC??

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      • 83
        Mornington Crescent says:

        :-).

        I’d forgotten that they’re bankrolled by that leftie ‘philanthropist’ David Potter (founder of Psion) and his wife and thought they’d scored a ‘massive coup’ by ‘revealing’ that 50% of Conservative donations come from the financial services sector. No investigations into Labour funding, naturally.

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        Cinna says:

        I note Iain Overton is ex BBC.

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      Maxwell's Silver Hammer says:

      From their web site:

      “Our team of journalists bolsters original news by producing high-quality investigations for press and broadcast media with the aim of educating the public and the media on both the realities of today’s world and the value of honest reporting.”

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    • 281
      Fish says:

      They were behind the much derided’expose’ into the Help for Heroes charity which newsnight ran.

      Once again they uses the same MO of running it on the back of a war victim, setting him up as a vehicle to bring the whole thing down. It didn’t work then either, the reprot being criticised as materially wrong and unbalanced – not interviewing vererans who had been supported.

      They were also behind the Tory funding smear, claiming wrongly that 50% or more of their funds came from big finance. GF rubbished that with ease some time back.

      There seems to be a bit of a pattern here. Political agandas and incompetence being part of what makes them and the BBC unique.

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    When I was a boy the poor were skinny says:

    testing testing which monika to use.

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    Margie Hodge says:

    We are the 0.01%.

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      Gladiolus says:

      How wonderful it must have been in the days of Blair when you and your husband, (what do they call the judiciary – independent?) were round at Downing Street plotting to flood the UK with Labour voters.

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  25. 69
    Ben at the Baby Bonking Corporation says:

    Twatson has been making a mountain out of a mole-hill.

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  26. 70
    Bent Broadcasting Corpse says:

    Didn’t we do well?

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    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    I could forgive the BBC covering up 40 years of child abuse.
    I could forgive the BBC using tax dodging methods.
    I could forgive the BBC engaging in shoddy journalism.

    What I can never forgive is their blatant left-wing bias and their rank hypocrisy.

    The BBC must go the same way as the News of the World if there is to be any justice. But I doubt it will happen because they have so many influential allies and so much power and they will use it as arrogantly, forcefully and dishonestly as they need to.

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  28. 72
    Bollux Broadcasting Cnuts says:

    Shock Horror !!!!

    Nearly 10 million people died in the U.K. while Margaret Thatcher was P.M.

    Vote Liebour — Live for Ever — Do No Work — Feed off the Benefits Tree.

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  29. 73
    Well it's a thought says:

    See the BBC if finally getting it’s cumuppance, if it had stayed as it should have done a non biased public broadcaster and hadn’t let the left toadies take over it, it’s checks and balances would have picked up the problems, but like arrogant sh*tes it went beyond it’s scope and finally got caught, time to sell the thing off and make it come into todays world and get rid of the licence and the ban on receiving of all tv transmissions without a licence.

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    BBC is finished, crumbling from the inside out – rotten, like the GDR.

    BUT – no one make the mistake of believing this is incompetence; The DG and Newsnight are being sacrificed to build a narrative of incompetence rather than crookedness. This is the Hutton and the Dodgy Dossier all over again. They are all claiming idiocy as their defence. We didn’t know, I never read the papers, no one told me…

    The truth is that the BBC is a criminally corrupt and malicious edifice of lies and propaganda, that defends its friends, smears its enemies, and has as its core goal the cementing of socialist rule in this country. Propaganda – the most intelligent and effective propaganda operation the world has ever known, levelled at us.

    This morning, millions of people will have learned that they cannot trust this body one fucking inch. And last night I watched Newsnight – I saw fear. The BBC’s own staff now know they can’t trust it either.

    It really might be happening. If the BBC goes, we really might be able to save this country.

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      Bugger says:

      The BBC and a lot of the public(Eastender viewers) see it as some sort of holy of holy outfit like the NHS or fire brigade.
      As with the Vatican the BBC will be allowed to just move on.

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      Bob Fleming says:

      Couldn’t agree more. I watched Newsnight last night and couldn’t believe what I was seeing – the whole thing looked stage and nervous as hell – like first night of some sixth form play. If they don’t get a grip soon it’s over. And hopefully there is so much more to come out on the back of this and I sincerely hope it does – BBC promotion of the EU in return for EU cash, BBC promotion of AGW to boost BBC pension investments to name two..

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      Rip van Wrinkle says:

      Agree 100%.

      But the sheep never learned nuffink. They are, after all, just sheep. Brought up in an education system that makes the BBC look like a paragon of virtue.

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    Synic says:

    Entwhistle.

    Have you suspended the Newsnight journalists and editors for gross incompetence, prior to sacking them?

    If not, why not?

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    Anonymous says:

    Let’s save the BBC the trouble of lots of inquiries.
    Saville was one of the main faces of the BBC who was allowed to procure and abuse vulnerable children on BBC premises for years.
    Biased BBC ” journalists” failed to complete basic tests to stand up a story because the potential to stick the boot into the Tories was too tempting.

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      The BBC is a pile of shit. says:

      If Pudsey the Bear isn’t a paedo, I don’t know what is.

      A grown man, in a bear outfit, wandering around children’s wards in hospitals, encouraging little kiddies to stroke his fur.

      Come on! Which cock at the BBC thought that was a good idea?

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      Tricky Dicky and The Master of Self Deception says:

      Plus they were itchin to itch their tricky dicky. So much so they resorted to pish poor journalism. They were in such rush to pull their tricky dicky off that the cumback exploded in their faces.

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  33. 149
    BBC & Tom e-mails says:

    BBC:
    Thanks for kicking off the false flag operation to deflect attention from us Tom but this Meesham bloke has turned out to be a bit flaky.

    Tom:
    That’s why we ignored him all those years we were in power but you said you needed dirt on the hurry up and he was the best I could do.

    BBC:
    Well we found this other guy in a hoody talking about sex abuse and people in flash cars.Hope that’s enough to keep the Tory kiddy fiddle meme going.

    Tom:
    Hope so too by the way thanks again for the wall to wall coverage of ‘Leveson’ sorry my intervention on your behalf hasn’t worked out as well.

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    Woolly Pullover says:

    He eats the sheep after he has shagged it. No need for rent boys, plus sheep don’t talk. But we are teaching them sign language. Then we will have our proof.

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    jj says:

    Alistair Campbell is writing about his chronic alcoholic mania – why would he do this?

    Campbell would not do this without a reason

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      nellnewman says:

      I thought for once that perhaps he was being honorable .

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      Tay King-dePisse says:

      For the love of God, I hope he isn’t setting up some sort of defence to some charge stemming from that era, of the kind that, in the wake of all the Savile allegations, prompted people to say “But it was a different time, then.” Not to say that it was grab-arsing young girls (or boys), necessarily, but it could be something which, had it come to light before his service in Government, certainly would have put his moral fitness in question. But hey, am I not begging the question here? Are ANY of the jokers who make it through to the top ranks morally fit?

      And bless nellnewman for her charitable impulse, I hope she’s right and I’m wrong, and that Alky truly is repentant. (No money on that bet, however.)

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        Anonymous says:

        Comical Ali was the one who included the phrase “beyond doubt” into the script repeated by Blair to the House. That phrase had no foundation.

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      Alyingstare Campbell says:

      I am preparing to take up a safe Libor set at the next General Election.

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        Anonymous says:

        Are voters really going to support a bullying,lying,alky who’s hands are covered in blood?

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          Expat Geordie says:

          Sadly, yes. You could put the Yorkshire Ripper up as a Labour candidate in some safe Labour seats and they would still elect him. After all, he was keeping prostitutes off the streets.

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  36. 157
    Operation Crossbow says:

    George Entwhistle is making an utter fool of himself. But where is Chris Patton on this?

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    nellnewman says:

    http://news.sky.com/story/1009588/bbc-boss-was-unaware-of-child-abuse-slur

    entwistle says he knew nothing about the Newsnight programme claiming the tories were p a e d o p h i l e s until the scandal broker the day after.

    almost his exact words to the Common’s Committee when he was questioned over Savile.

    So what exactly is the purpose of this highly paid man who knows nothing?

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      Enwistle's P45 says:

      “entwistle says he knew nothing about the Newsnight programme”

      Hey, that sounds about as genuine as the German people saying, “hey, we didn’t know what the Nazis were up to! I mean, sure, we knew all the J3ws had been rounded up, and we knew the Dachau chimneys were belching smoke, and we knew there was a strong smell of BBQ bacon, but Hell, we didn’t know what the Nazis were up to, honest!”

      Pull the other one, Entwistle, it’s got bells on.

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    • 168
      George Wetwhistle says:

      I do lunches and dinners.

      Odi profanum vulgus et arceo

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      Ignorance is bliss says:

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        the stench of hypocrisy says:

        When News International bosses claimed they knew nothing about phone-hacking, they were villified by the BBC.

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      Rhonddablue says:

      He didn’t know anything about it? What, about Newsnight threatening to name a senior Tory from the Thatcher era??? In the immediate wake of p-doh-frenzy controversies at the BBC with which Newsnight was closely associated??? Which THE major contributor to the article (Overton) had triumphantly tweeted about 12 hours before broadcast was due???? I don’t normally swear, ……..but F**K ME! This bloke must live in a lead-lined coffin. Everybody knew and was waiting with bated breath for the revelations!!!! He’s the Director General FFS.

      Or was.

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    Operation Crossbow says:

    The BBC simply wanted to lash out at the Tories once again. The rabid attacks from Radio 5 this week have been no better.

    It’s not just Newsnight, it’s the whole of the BBC that tore into the “Tory politician of the Thatcher era”

    Take a listen to Stephen Nolan last week literally spitting those words out on radio

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    Hear Ye! Hear Ye!

    My price now for voting for any political party is that they undertake that the BBC should be sold off to the highest acceptable bidder within two years of such party becoming elected.

    They may keep the BBC World Service as a public entity if that cannot be funded otherwise.

    Nothing can begin to improve for the UK if a grossly biased national broadcaster remains in place.

    That is all.

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    The BBC are cunts says:

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      Anonymous says:

      If Entwistle couldn’t even be bothered to watch such a potentially explosive Newsnight, which had been widely publicised during the day, he’s not fit to be in charge.

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      Roscoe Rules says:

      Entwistle has all the makings of an EU President.

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        Your IP adderss will be logged. says:

        BBC chief George Entwistle faces MPs over Jimmy Savile scandal …
        http://www.guardian.co.uk › News › Media › George Entwistle24 Oct 2012 – George Entwistle, the BBC’s director general, has faced two hours of questioning from MPs … Your IP address will be logged … 08 Nov 2012 …

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          Anonymous says:

          Can you imagine a newspaper editor who doesn’t bother reading the paper before it’s printed?
          BBC staff are so far removed from reality they’ve forgotten how the world works.

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    Mr Tumble-Drier says:

    Let me get this right. Just because Messham wrongly ‘identified’ McAlpine (did he actually because the last time I heard him he wasn’t saying exactly who it was) then all of the rumours circulating on the net about the likes of J****r, P******o, L***y et al – they’re all false too?

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      Mr Tumble-Drier says:

      Was Tom Watson actually referring to Lord McAlpine in the Commons? At the time I thought he was referring to Morrison.
      Didn’t the original allegation go along the lines of “his name is similar to a high-ranking government minister” So what did that mean?

      Also,, some of the websites that have been following this story for over 10 years have allegations against Lord McAlpine that have been on view for many years, not just a few days.

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        In Toms case it would be acceptable to shoot the messenger says:

        By all means bring to justice all those guilty involved but whoever Watson was referring to his subject and timing stinks of political opportunism and deflection.

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      Philip Witch Cunt Schofield says:

      Tom Watson’s favourite game is to play WitchHunt is it? He was Brown’s bulldog once. Watson’s prints are all over this. Plus This Morning is a Labour ‘pulling the strings’ Stunt. Schofield is a Labour muppet. What a tool!

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      blub says:

      He (and another victim) were shown a photograph and identified the man in the photograph as their abuser. The police put a name to the man in that photograph. The boys didn’t identify the man by name. (I assume because they didn’t know it.) The question remains whose photograph were they shown.

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    Wrongblog says:

    Alf tupper could win races after a hard days work and lived on a diet of fish and chips ,so you can stick your healthy diets

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  43. 193
    Have at it! says:

    Seems like Twatson’s website is down.. squeaky bum time or just trying to rewrite history?

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    peter davidson says:

    My dad was in India in 1947 in quite a high position and knew Ghandi and Mountbatten personally. He still speaks fluent Gujarati amd Hindi.
    He also knew Lady Mountbatten who complained to him about the lack of nocturnal activity with her husband and his preference for the other side.
    Whilst my dad did not partake, Ghandi was an occasional evening visitor, which kinda changes one’s opinion of him a little.
    No big deal but for the cynics amongst us, and I am getting more cynical as well, it might explain 1979.
    He is still alive and as right wing as ever….and only eaten one curry in his life, on my graduation, at my choice of restaurant.

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      Lost in Clacton says:

      Have you eaten my maltesers ?

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      Roscoe Rules says:

      Speaks fluent Gujarati and Hindi but has eaten only one curry in his life.
      In other words ‘he talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk’ Paaarp

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    • 229
      Ed Balls says:

      So what?

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      Anonymous says:

      Wow. One curry. Yeah gotta live a little.

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      Expat Geordie says:

      I remember the events of 1979 quite well, and the views of a lot of older people, the wartime generation, was that Paddy had just made a huge mistake and that we should go over there, kill everyone and turn the place into a car park.

      Now most of these older people were traditional Labour voters, with no love for the monachy, but took the killing of Mountbatten very personally. I suspect that this view prevailed throughout the whole country, including many predominately Conservative areas, and not just in a north eastern former pit village.

      So why no real reaction from the powers that be? Well the more that I hear about Mountbatten, (Field Marshal Gerald Templer once famously shouted at him “Dickie, you’re so bent that if you swallowed a nail you’d shit out a corkscrew!”), the more I think that his dalliances/split loyalties meant that many important people thought that Paddy had actually done us a favour by bumping him off.

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    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    Two main questions need answering.

    Firstly why the claim against ‘a senior member of the Tory party in the Thatcher era’ was allowed to be broadcast without any investigation into the validity of the claim whatsoever? Simply showing the victim a photo of the alleged culprit would have demolished the claim.

    Secondly why there was no mention that this all happened at a care home run by a Labour run council (Clywd)?

    The only feasible answer is the BBC’s rabid obsession to attack the right-wing and especially the Tory party, as they have been doing for years.

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    • 210
      Shit attempt at spin says:

      Gandhi only had one curry and vegetable pakoras. Yawn!

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    • 216
      Operation Crossbow says:

      We were told that the reason Newnight didn’t go ahead with the Savile story is that they normally need multiple sources and the standard of proof is up there with what a barrister would demand in court.

      So you think a picture of the person involved might have been shows and also another source for the story to cross check?

      The BBC and that bureau of investigative journalism are simply Tory haters and didn’t care. It’s obvious something went on behind the scenes with Watson.

      Just interesting that the Guardian newspaper didn’t seem to want to be a part of this BBC lie as well

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      • 348
        Alan Rusbridger says:

        We have our own problems. Penny for the guy anyone? Just put it in my cup if you want tomorrow’s issue.

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    I don't n e e d no doctor says:

    WATSON
    SCHOFIELD
    ENTWHISTLE

    A

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  47. 211
    I don't n e e d no doctor says:

    WATSON
    SCHOFIELD
    ENTWHISTLE

    All a total disgrace.

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  48. 213
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Notice that once again Helen Boaden is getting away scott free. She is after all the boss of BBC NEWS (or what passes as news at the BBC these days)

    She’s not done a single interview about any of this stuff involving Newsnight. She was supposed to appear before the Commons select committee but hasn’t.

    She’s the one who is most likely to get Entwhistle’s job if he gets fired yet she’s being protected. I hope it’s not because she’s a woman?

    You think Boaden might have had a word with Entwhistle about the Tory politician story just to give him a heads up?

    Me thinks she is either being protected or she’s doing her best to get Entwhistle fired so she can get his job.

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      who why what where when says:

      BBC News- never lets the facts get in the way of an anti- Tory story.

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      Have at it! says:

      She’s probably busy doing what she was appointed for.. making up the female quotient for the diversity requirement. Don’t go confusing the job ‘title’ with job description.

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    “Let me get this right. I know it’s difficult to grasp the logic of what follows if you have a brain on active duty, but, hey, this is Planet Earth in 2012.

    A man called Steve Messham tells the BBC current affairs programme, Newsnight, that he was abused as a child while a resident in a North Wales children’s home in the 1970s/1980s by former Conservative Party Treasurer Lord Alistair McAlpine.

    Except that Newsnight did not broadcast the actual name in its programme.

    Speculation begins and Lord Alistair McAlpine’s name is widely circulated across the Internet from multiple sources as being the person that Messham was talking about although Messham does not confirm this.

    On the day that McAlpine’s lawyers released a statement denying that he is a paedophile or in any way involved in the North Wales children’s homes scandal, Messham issues an apology to Lord McAlpine saying that it was a case of ‘mistaken identity’ and that he should never have named him.

    Er, Steve, mate, publicly you DIDN’T.

    WTF?

    This allows the BBC to issue a grovelling statement apologising to McAlpine whom the Newsnight programme never named!!

    Steve Messham said that the reason he has recanted on his not publicly mentioning the name of Lord McAlpine is that he was shown a picture of McAlpine by police ‘in the last hour’ and he realised it was not the man who abused him over and over and over decades ago.

    Hold on a minute, while I breathe very deeply and sip some very sweet tea. Talk among yourselves.

    Okay, I think I can continue, but I will have to type a little slower.

    Messham says that the problem of ‘mistaken identity’ arose because police showed him a picture in the 1990s of the person that he said abused him and they told him that it was Lord McAlpine. Now he had seen a picture of Lord McAlpine ‘in the last hour’ and he realised that it is not the man in the picture that police showed to him in the 1990s.

    This is where you have to take some deep breaths and sip some sweet tea. I do advise it, anyway.

    You are being asked to believe that in the 15-20 years between Steve Messham allegedly being shown the picture of ‘Lord McAlpine’ by police and accusing him of sexually abusing him in an unbroadcast part of the interview with Newsnight that Messham has never once Googled ‘Lord Alistair McAlpine’ and seen the pictures of him widely available ever since he said he was abused??

    That he never once sought out a picture of him of any kind in the decades since his time in the children’s home until the police showed him one ‘in the last hour’?

    Steve, mate, I am so sorry for what you went through, and what you are going through now, but for me bollocks is the only word in town.

    Yet now the BBC is issuing ‘unreserved apologies’ to someone they didn’t even name and the mainstream media is running around like headless chickens – ‘don’t panic, don’t panic, it’s all explained now, go back to sleep’ – on the basis of such transparent BULLSHIT with regard to Steve Messham.

    You know the most telling and relevant words written on this website in the last week? These …

    ‘If the real and full truth comes out about what really goes on away from the public eye it will bring down the British political establishment across all parties and make the monarchy history.’

    That, in my view, is what Steve Messham’s sudden about-turn after decades is really about and the mainstream media may run, and much of the ‘alternative’ media may run, but I bloody won’t.

    Some of us are not chickens and our heads are still intact. Some of us will not go back to sleep because we were never asleep in the first place.

    Is it only me that finds all this absolutely inexplicable?

    I doubt it.

    So who’s got the guts to say so?
    Well … here’s at least one …”

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      Giant Firebreathing Lizard Person says:

      Come back into the nest, you’ll catch a chill out there.

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      Gaslighting says:

      There was a nasty smear campaign set up by media hoons aka the BBC and a very a nasty Cow called Sally who if you haven’t noticed tweeted her bird brain thoughts to her thousands upon thousands of followers on twatter trying to out the guy. Mr Watson is suspected of being a big player in getting McAlpines name out in the public domain. He even sent the scum on here to post his smears on McAlpine. I hope McAlpine sues the lot of them, twice and thrice if necessary. Shut these idiots up!

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    Boff says:

    Hearing that Watson tore strips off Messham for going off message. ‘Unlike a dirty little catamite like you, I’ve got a reputation to uphold.’ Not a happy man.

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    Milibandwagon says:

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      Roscoe Rules says:

      Thanks to Labour we will have the best part of a thousand more dead soldiers to remember.
      Stick your tribute up your arse you bullet dodging son of a bullet dodger.

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    • 249
      Have at it! says:

      Quick look over here!
      Squirrel!

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    • 287
      Mornington Crescent says:

      Ah, morning, Schnorbitz – we haven’t heard from you for a while. Maybe the bandwagon’s suddenly off the road for repairs, is it?

      Anyway, how very convenient for you that tomorrow is Remembrance Sunday and how very thoughtful of you to Twat about our servicemen.

      Do us all a favour – save the cynical cant, not least as it was your party that sent our boys and girls into two pointless conflicts. How about your view on Mr. Watson’s partisan witch-hunt which has fallen apart? Nothing? How odd.

      PS: Please tell that charming Abbott woman not to Twat during the 2-minute silence this year.

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  52. 232
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Yeeeesss …Mister I mean Lord Macalpine – so it wasn’t you but you brother James (Jimmy) who it appears was impersonating you and or using your name as cover for his despicable behaviour Ummm and as to you and your family name being defamed – I put it to you that you damned well ought to have know what your brother was up – have you anything to say now?

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    • 242
      Poison Pen says:

      Sadly you are just making things worse for your gossiping lefty bruvs at the BBC

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      • 298
        Blowing Whistles says:

        I have noted the inverted logic of the Daily Mail Comment piece today along with the piece by Amanda Platell – where she conveniently ‘doesn’t mention’ that it was Cameron who brought the gay issue into the child abuse subject matter. Is platell yet another lickspittal?

        The DM comment mentions ‘the public interest’ so are they claiming to act in the public’s interest or is it that they see themselves as another tier of obfuscation keeping the public from getting at the truth of matters which MP’s are supposed to address?

        Brian Leveson does indeed have some issues to tackle – And “The Public Interest” not those of the Hacked off celebs and their friends is paramount – as in to quote a legal maxim – It is the paramount interests of the child which come first…

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      UKIP.i.am.still says:

      He wasn’t his brother. The list of socialist disinformation and blatant lies is endless. What was the Labour-led Clywd council doing when all this was going on under their very noses at one of their very own establishments? How many of them have the BBC mentioned? You would think they would have many questions to answer seeing as they picked and were in charge of the pervy workers at the child-care home.

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    • 400
      Expat Geordie says:

      BW, I have family members that I haven’t spoken to for years, including siblings. They don’t know what I am doing, and I don’t know what they are doing. But by your logic they are responsible for my actions, and I am responsible for theirs.

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      • 489
        Blowing Whistles says:

        One problem there expat – you to the best of my knowledge are not a ‘high profile’ government or ex-government Minsiter – who would have had to go through all manner of security clearances and checks including closest family … think about the last piece I jsut wrote and think properly

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    lol says:

    Guido, someone needs to investigate the so-called ‘Bureau for Investigative Reporting’, the shadowy group involved in these Newsnight smears against the Tories.
    Apparently this outfit was set up by some South Africans and are now based at the City University in London.
    They appear to have gained increasing influence at the BBC, probably because they share the same motives and aims and are unscrupulous in achieving them.

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      Fish says:

      They were behind the much derided’expose’ into the Help for Heroes charity which newsnight ran.

      Once again they uses the same MO of running it on the back of a war victim, setting him up as a vehicle to bring the whole thing down. It didn’t work then either, the reprot being criticised as materially wrong and unbalanced – not interviewing vererans who had been supported.

      They were also behind the Tory funding smear, claiming wrongly that 50% or more of their funds came from big finance. GF rubbished that with ease some time back.

      There seems to be a bit of a pattern here. Political agandas and incompetence being part of what makes them and the BBC unique.

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        ác1 says:

        It would be OK if the BBC matched up competing political agendas and they both did a report but the agenda is always left or far left supporting.

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  54. 236
    A Big Fat Lefty Hypocrite says:

    Margaret Hodge’s family company pays just 0.01pc tax on £2.1bn of business generated in the UK

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/tax/9668396/Margaret-Hodges-family-company-pays-just-0.01pc-tax-on-2.1bn-of-business-generated-in-the-UK.html

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  55. 239
    Spot says:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/11/10/the-secret-28-who-made-bbc-green-will-not-be-named/

    The bbc are accountable to tax payers they must show us whats going on.

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  56. 247
    Are Moonbat and slapper Sal going to prison? says:

    Among those stoking the rumours were the Commons Speaker’s wife, Sally Bercow, and Guardian columnist George Monbiot.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230292/BBC-Director-General-admits-Newsnight-scandal-documentary-gone-humiliating-grilling-live-air-presenter.html

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    Kebab,The Lefty Tosser says:

    Those,like Guido Fawkes, who fight to protect & preserve democracy and freedom from tyrants, dictators, and extremists are owed a debt that can never be repaid.

    Like

    • 251
      Ofcom Stars says:

      The flagship programmes, newsnight and this morning are proof that regulation is a waste of space,

      Like

    • 252
      Have at it! says:

      Yup, just got avoid the potential for lead poisoning and being suicided while walking in the woods..

      Like

  58. 258
    Worm Squirm says:

    Jonathan Dimbleby using BBC Tory Abuse disaster to suggest pulling earlier Newsnight BBC Abuse story was a wise and cautious thing to do!

    Like

  59. 259
    The BBC are cunts says:

    George Entwhistle joined the BBC during the Thatcher era.

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  60. 261
    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    If the BBC disappears more people are likely to read the dead-tree press and get a more overall balanced version of events. The BBC can never be trusted again and has not been trustworthy for many years.

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  61. 266
    Harold Wilson and Jimmy savile entertain young girls in a cavern says:

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  62. 271
    Eddie Mair part one says:

    I think we have been tricked. the Eddie Mair on Newsnight last night.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9668864/Newsnight-apologises-for-Tory-sex-abuse-claims.html

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  63. 277
    Silly Sally B13 COW says:

    Notice I’m keeping my big, fat potty=mouth shut today…

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  64. 284
    George "not me guv" Entwhistle says:

    Nobody tells me anything. I do not make it my business to find out anything. I therefore cannot possibly be held responsible for things I don’t know about.

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    DW4 RF and SL4 PPA says:

    We have nothing to say.

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    • 310
      Lard Pressclott - Laughing Policeman in waiting says:

      Fuck off !

      Like

    • 311
      T.B£iar - the People's Messiah says:

      Yeah, fuck off !

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    • 312
      Bogeyman says:

      What’s it got to do with you, you stupid Ber-cow?

      Presumably you agree with the author of that article, a certain Mrs Balls. Which makes you even more of a stupid Ber-cow.

      Like

    • 318
      Former Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, 'cyber warrior' and running for Police and Crime Commissio says:

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      • 321
        Bruce says:

        Dynamic duo my arse. They are both Robin Bastards.

        Like

      • 324
        John Prescott says:

        If elected as Humberside Police’s new commissioner I promise to do more for the area than that useless c*nt MP John Prescott

        Like

      • 325
        Joss Ayinglike says:

        Pass the sick bucket – not for me, for Lard Pressclot

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        • 329
          Tea break says:

          Batman and Robin are camping in the desert, set up their tent and are asleep. Some hours later, Batman wakes his faithful friend. “Robin, look up at the sky and tell me what you see.”
          Robin replies, ” I see millions of stars.”
          “What does that tell you?” asks Batman.
          Robin ponders for a minute.
          “Astronomically speaking, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets.
          Astrologically, it tells me that Saturn is in Leo.
          Chronologically, it appears to be approximately a quarter past three.
          Theologically, it’s evident the Lord is all-powerful and we are small and insignificant.
          Meteorologically, it seems we will have a beautiful day tomorrow.
          What does it tell you, Batman?”
          Batman is silent for a moment, then speaks:
          ” Robin, you idiot, someone has stolen our tent.”

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    • 327
      I don't n e e d no doctor says:

      Sally, are you jealous you’ll have competition as you steel from the corrupt pie?

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    • 358
      curioser and curioser Attorneys at law says:

      Does Ms Bercow agree that in the light of several recent incidents of defamatory and untrue accusations by people that should know better on personal Twitter accounts this service should now be shut down?.

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  68. 304
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    So, you can call a man an arse bandit or ped, o on air and broadcast it to millions, and not lose your job, but call a man to his face (alleged) a pleb , and the BBC want you to resign.

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  69. 309
    Bogeyman says:

    If you thought the world had gone mad, take a look at THIS.

    M’lud is considering whether soldiers on the battlefield have a “right to life” under the European Convention on Human Rights.

    Of course you have to feel sorry for the mother who has lost her soldierboy in Afghanistan, but isn’t this just typical of yooman rites nonsense?

    Next they’ll be asking for a right not to be shot at.

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    • 326
      SLOTGOB says:

      I think it’s marvellous – keeps us busy.

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    • 435
      Hear Rat-Hair Man says:

      Then don’t join the bally Military – that will reduce the likelihood of getting shot at.

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    • 578
      Rhonddablue says:

      They are asking for the right not to be shot at, aren’t they? Maybe they could sue the Taliban for their goats or something? I don’t really get it. I’m a bit of a thick Taff.

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  70. 313
    Confused and disbelieving of Chipping Sodbury says:

    Isn’t it a bit odd that the boss of the BBC did not know that Newsnight was to broadcast an article about a Fatcher Peedo while the rest of the country did know?

    Like

    • 315
      Pawn Sandwich says:

      Makes you wonder.

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        Fuckwatch says:

        Esp after the moronic tweet by some twat at the hilariously pompous “Bureau of Investigative Journalism” which went ballistic on every msm and internet site from the day before onwards. Has Entwistle got his head stuck up his own arse? (rhetorical question)

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    • 361
      I don't n e e d no doctor says:

      Moderation is baffling, see me Guido.

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      • 405
        Sign of the times says:

        I stuck with the same moniker for years , now I have to change it 4 times a day or my posts just disappear into the ether and to my knowledge for no valid reason.

        Like

        • 418
          Fur Trade Fare Trader of Fair Trade Monikers says:

          Join the club
          Ah! Monika plus many more

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        • 433
          Time of the signs. says:

          Same here

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          Operation Crossbow says:

          If you swap to an alternative IP address you don’t get blocked. I don’t know why Guido Fawkes does it, or if it’s Neo Guido, but from time to time there is someone in charge of this blog who turns up all the security to max.

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        • 461
          Auld Lang Sign says:

          Guido with an unpaid intern?, shurely not.

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        • 525
          Another shot at Guido's random number generator says:

          S.o.t.t. @405 : Wonder what would happen if we all posted as – oh, I don’t know – Gordon Brown, let’s say ?

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        • 530
          It used to be good here, but then.. says:

          “I stuck with the same moniker for years , now I have to change it 4 times a day”

          That’s because the cretin kn hee oh, ghea’d oh took over, and fucked this site to Hell in a handcart.

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      • 516
        Tachybaptus says:

        @361
        Never mind the moderation, the numbering has been up the creek for years. Wonder where this will turn up.

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        • 559
          Guido Shite Manager says:

          Think yourself lucky the comments below this one don’t even have a number

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          • The ruined country formerly known as Britain. says:

            Fat Pang you want to restore trust in the BBC so…………cleanse the whole corporation of the wholly biased left wing cohorts employed at the moment and employ journalists of “integrity” your favourite word at the moment.

            You have allowed the present labour loving dross to run the show – supposed newreaders FFS shouting down anyone who dares to disagree with them, and while you are at it clear out the wholly biased bunch including Humphries on the Today programme.

            War, pestilence and monetary ruin are raging through the world and the BBC lead for three weeks has been the hounding of Mitchell, not because the BBC care about the matter simply that they see it as a stick to beat the Conservatives with.

            The selfsame thing with the Murdoch fiasco and phone hacking – you think you are so clever but you forgot about hubris.

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    • 335
      Romney is more popular than Gordo and Nick and Dave says:

      Mitt 47.9%

      Dave 36.1%

      Gordon 29.0%

      Nick 23.0%

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    • 342
      ác1 says:

      “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
      ― Alexis de Tocqueville

      http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/465.Alexis_de_Tocqueville

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  72. 332
    Philip Scumfield says:

    Thank heavens for the BBC.

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  73. 334
    I don't n e e d no doctor says:

    The silence from Watson is almost deafening, and what of Schofield, has he got another list ready for next week?
    Sally Bercow, she must be the most stupid person in the UK, and what of her midget, surely the biggest disgrace in the HOC.

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  74. 338
    Journo says:

    Something about all of this don’t seem right.

    Anyone who has ever been a victim of abuse will never forget who the perpetrator was. Ever. Neither would he get on the television without knowing what had happened to him. Messham does not seem the sharpest tool in the box. Coupled with everything that he has endured over those terrible years, this would make him much easier to frighten or manipulate or pay off.

    Newsnight did not broadcast any names, neither did Messham confirm any. On the same day McAlpine’s lawyers released their statement, Messham issues an apology saying that it was a case of ‘mistaken identity’ and that he shouldn’t have named him. Except he didn’t. And the BBC now apologize to McAlpine, whose name the Newsnight programme never even mentioned!!!

    Messham said that the reason he recanted on his not publicly mentioning the name of McAlpine is that he was shown a picture of McAlpine by police ‘in the last hour’ and realised it was not the man who abused him decades ago.

    Messham says the ‘mistaken identity’ arose because police showed him a 1990s of the person that he said abused him, telling him it was Lord McAlpine. Now he has seen a picture of McAlpine ‘in the last hour’ and he realises it is not the man in the picture that police showed to him in the 1990s.

    Apparently we are being asked to believe that in the intervening years between Messham allegedly shown McAlpine’s picture and accusing him of sexually abusing him in the unbroadcast part of the Newsnight interview that Messham has never Googled ‘Lord Alistair McAlpine’ and seen the pictures of him widely available ever since he said he was abused??

    A little strange, yes?

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    • 341
      Rat's arse says:

      Not really!

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      • 345
        Journo says:

        Great response!
        Very incisive and thought-provoking…
        You’re obviously a one dimensional fruit cake who reads ‘Bella’ for his intellectual meat and drink.

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        • 360
          Ex Poly Jounalism Lecturer says:

          No, you’re just long winded. If you want to grow up to be a journalist, you’ll have to practice writing more succinctly.

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          • Journo says:

            Oh boy, an ex-Poly loser telling me how to write.
            Well if it’s ‘succinct’ you’re after, how about fuck off, you jumped-up Hunt?

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        • 372
          Rat's arse says:

          Well, I don’t read the Gruand if that’s what you mean Journo. Wouldn’t wipe YOUR arse with it, let alone mine.

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        • 440
          Hear Rat-Hair Man says:

          Love the way the chickens are scampering around throwing up defensive walls of Doo, strengthened with apology battens, or hiding under the hen-house whilst the fox snuffles them out.

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          • Rat's arse says:

            Sorry to deflate your red balloon Journo, but working in a busy A & E doesn’t allow much time for watching day time tripe. I’ll leave that to you.

            Incidentally, if you ever need treatment at Guys, just identify yourself and I’ll be willing to ease your pain (not!).

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    • 347
      BIJ says:

      Not strange at all, the Plod had told him that it was Lord McAlpine. Why would he want to look at the face of his abuser ever again?

      Of course that does not excuse the BBC from not double checking and showing him a photo.

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      • 369
        nellnewman says:

        Yes. It looks as though the Police identified someone who was a sir and mistakenly thought that made him a Lord.

        Then when this shady leftwing Journalism outfit that the beeb was working with got their hands on the info they made a connection with Thatcher’s office not bothering to check it.

        It wasn’t the poor chap’s fault who was not to know the ins and outs of peerages and stuff. It was the fault of partisan journalists who were so eager to use his tragic story to take a swing at Mrs T and damage the tories that they couldn’t take the time to investigate properly.

        Sadly if they had done that and correctly identified the abuser I doubt they’d have thought it worth running the story at all.

        Which suggests that it was smearing the Tories that was important not investigating abuse.

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          I don't n e e d no doctor says:

          ….and who is doing the smearing – WATSON.

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        • 379
          Operation Crossbow says:

          Exactly Nell. The BBC themselves say they won’t run stories without a multiple source, yet this came from one interview.

          Piss poor journalism prompted by a hatred of the Tories, Newsnight have been at this since before the last election. Every night the Tories get a hammering with Labour guests allowed to attack and are never picked up for their own record in office.

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          • I don't n e e d no doctor says:

            It’s the same with Dimbleby on QT. Interrupts the tory but never the labour who is allowed to rant on.

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        • 387
          Iain 0verton Deleting History says:

          Iain 0verton of the “Bureau of Investigative Journalism” has deleted his Tweet which the guido mod bot will not let a copy of be posted but it can be read here.

          http://tinyurl.com/bg3o8gv

          It beggars belief that every media luvvy in the land was aware of it except for the head of the BBC. quite frankly I do not believe Entwistle had no knowledge.

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        • 390
          The Land of the Politically Correct and Mendacious says:

          “Which suggests that it was smearing the Tories that was important not investigating abuse.”

          which in a nutshell probably goes a long way to explaining the whole matter.

          When a nation’s state broadcaster starts seeing its role as an adjunct of a political political party(whether that party be Labour or Conservative) rather than an unbiased /impartial news reporting agency who reports only the facts and facts that can be substantiated is when questions ought to be asked and the occasion when the Prime Minister of the day should set up a judge led inquiry i.e. Leveson Mk 2 into the broadcast media and its motivations

          It also beggars belief that the organisation’s “Editor-in-Chief” then professes to be unaware of it all until the programme was broadcast when only a couple of weeks ago he was ridiculed before a Parliamentary Committee for a similar event involving the SAME programme and when on the day this broke he was attending a meeting of representatives of international broadcasters and the immediate speaker before him had apparently according to the said presenter an ex-ITV executive mentioned the very topic in the course of his presentation is to say the least quite remarkable.

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      • 409
        Expat Geordie says:

        Agreed. I found a body in the street as a kid and I’ve NEVER been back there. I certainly wouldn’t want to be reminded of anything bad that had happened to me.

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      Operation Crossbow says:

      @338 Um no you seem to be jumbling up the story here. Messham I think did name McAlpine but off camera, on camera he just referred to a senior politician. The photograph issue was that the photo he was given or shown by the police at the time of the original interview is not the same person as McAlpine (read the Guardian article)

      The ‘Senior Tory politician from the Thatcher era’ was the tweet sent out by one of the journalists who worked on the story last Friday.

      The BBC failed to physically confirm with Messham that the person who he was referring to was actually Lord McAlpine (basic journalism 101) and the BBC never contacted McAlpine once last Friday to either confirm the story with him or offer him a right of reply. Michael Crick on Channel 4 news last night said he spoke with McAlpine 3 times last Friday and was amazed the BBC had not been in contact with him at all.

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      • 393
        Michael Crick knew the name says:

        He certainly did name McAlpine off camera and the whole of the Newsnight and BIJ “Journo” team were aware of the name. But someone leaked and Michael Crick (ex newsnight) became aware of the name hence this tweet. last Friday.

        I’m afrauid the mod bot is working overtime but Crick’s Tweet can be read here.

        http://tinyurl.com/bg3o8gv

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    • 604
      Redberry says:

      Why should he have been googling a man who according to the Waterhouse transcripts he thought to be long dead?

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  75. 359
    Drop a Daisy cutter on ITV says:

    What ITV allowed on Good Morning was much worse than the BBC’s ‘non-naming’

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    • 374
      I don't n e e d no doctor says:

      If the names were not meant to be seen, why was the print so large? It must have been deliberate. But who instigated it?
      Watson’s name is being kept out of the media, why?

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      • 382
        nellnewman says:

        Watson’s hidng in his bedroom with a pizza and his XBox hoping everybody forgets that he was the one to start this frenzy going.

        Let’s not forget watson was gordonbrown’s chief backstabber and smearer. His grubby fingerprints are all over this.

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        • 403
          the pork sword of truth says:

          We know you love him really nell.

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        • 412
          1984 says:

          Watson knows that people remember the headline. The next day retraction on Page 24 opposite the football results doesn’t register.

          Watson set out to create a ‘Fatchur protected a pe*do’ meme and I can guarantee you that is all you’ll be hearing from fuckwitted Labour voters from now to eternity.

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    • 380
      Red Egg Millitit..... says:

      Schofield really should stick to kids TV and dumbed down progs……. he is now on a par with Richard (male appendage head) Bacon.

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  76. 381
    Red Egg Millitit..... says:

    Feeling soooo sorry for the Beeb… not :)

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  77. 384
    The BBC Trust ? Not further than I can spit on them says:

    Stephen Messham should have bitten his tongue for the Greater Good of the socialist cause.

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20239836

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    • 388
      Carlos says:

      Nah.. BBC standard procedure relates to protection of pillow biters only. They would have egged him on since the target was “Thatcher era” & “Senior Tory”… they must have thought Christmas had come early!

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    • 406
      Gaslighting says:

      It is so funny that this was on put up on the BBC site just hours before Messham came out and told the truth about accussing the wrong guy. Hilarious.

      http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20239836

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  78. 392
    nellnewman says:

    ” The organisation aims for its output and editorial processes to be a masterclass, a gold standard for evidence-based journalism ”

    The Bureau of Investigative Journalism’s statement of aims.

    As we now know they are a con.

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    • 416
      Sign of the times says:

      That says it all nell, alarm bells immediately ring when these shady organisations come out with the usual pompous mission statement, and who is funding these pillocks?.

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      • 427
        nellnewman says:

        Well we’re partly funding them because the beeb is using our money to pay them to put these sort of programmes together. Though why they’re not doing it in-house I’ve no idea.

        I also have a sne@king suspicion that if someone was to dig deep enough they would find a link between TomWatson and this shady outfit.

        A job for Guido maybe?

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  79. 394
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Whatever else Brian Leveson may not say – members of the public – who are not ‘high profile’ – do need protecting from the Media Proprietors who have at their hands and deepest pockets legions of legals who ‘stifle’ members of the public who have been wronged by the Higher Profiles. That ‘Monied might’ can and invariably does stamp all over joe publics [In the Public Interest] rights is but part of the problem of systematic and unchecked corruption by the few and for the fews benefit. Across the political corridors of power – power has been corrupted by those who preach with forked-tongues but practice the opposite of what they preach down to the public.

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  80. 399
    Newsnight Remix says:

    It can be revealed that 29 pedos had been operating on the premises of the BBC during the Blairite era.

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  81. 401
    A Rum Do says:

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    • 411
      Sign of the times says:

      Wish he would try doorstepping me, he may have a cudgel in his hand but my Rottweiller will see him off pronto.

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    • 490
      The Land of the Politically Correct and Mendacious says:

      Corby is at least more interesting than the pointless elections of Police Commissioners….the majority of the electorate know neither that the elections are taking place or who their candidates are…telling voters to go to a website to find out when probably 40% of the electorate is not on the net is somewhat ingenuous. AND how can government ministers criticise strike ballots for having less than 50% of their members voting to strike as without a democratic mandate when these elections are likely to have a turnover of around 40%(and yet the government will say that these are democratically valid )smacks of double standards to me

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      • 573
        Expat Geordie says:

        The Dorset PCC election is an absolute hoot. Tory, Labour, Lib Dim and an Independent.

        The Independent is a former police Chief Inspector, bankrolled by the local slum landlord (who is a Sandbanks resident and a convicted criminal), and supports a “charity” that encourages junkies to move to the south coast for “rehab”, living in said slum landlords properties at council expense. Not that Boscombe in Bournemouth doesn’t have enough problems as it is as there are apparently 63 of these places there already.

        We might have a slightly higher turn out in Branksome, Poole, as there is a council by-election at the same time, at it is turning nasty.

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      • 623
        Rhondda Blue says:

        Wasn’t going to bother until a flyer dropped through the door advertising the charms of Labour stiff Alun ‘Cardiff South and Mogadishu’ Michael. Will be dropping by the Church Hall Thurs to x the least-offensive sounding Indy.

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  83. 410
    George Wetwhistle says:

    Don’t expect me to take responsibility for the enormous foul-ups at the wonderful Beeb. I want my gold-plated pension protected and a £ 2 million pay-off first.

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    • 449
      UKIP.i.am.still says:

      Nobody in the public sector ever takes responsibility. That why thicko socialists thrive in it.

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  84. 420

    Elton John is pregnant again.

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  85. 421
    Your IP adderss will be logged. says:

    I see that tedious PollyTwaddle woman plus that Arab bloke were, as per fucking usual, pontificating on the week’s news on News24 earlier.
    Time to rid the Corporation of these boring Hunts

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  86. 425
    Tom Nonceon says:

    Guido why mod me? I bring thousands of followers to your doorstep

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  87. 429
    Ex Ex Ah! Monika says:

    Guido is getting rid of long standing monikers.

    He’s having a bonfire of the vanities.

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  88. 431
    Well protected Tory nonces says:

    Boys boys boys
    We’re looking for a good time!

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  89. 438
    Sue Brown says:

    Lets all sue SAlly Uracow and then burn her at the stake. Witch!

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  90. 439
    The Conservative Party says:

    We’re the party of decent family values, morality and heterosexuality.

    Except when some of our colleagues indulge in child buggery, bestiality and torture, in which case we protect them for decades and smear their accusers as unhinged.

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    • 444
      UKIP.i.am.still says:

      And yet this was all happening at an establishment run by a Labour council in the heart of a socialist country. Are all socialists child abusers?

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    • 448
      Try again says:

      Whereas in fact their accusers are sane as they come, aren’t they?

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      • 454
        Very very nasty says:

        Torture and abuse children, and then call them nuts. Classic strategy.

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      • 465
        A statement from Baroness Thatcher says:

        Leave my friends alone! So what they fiddled some kids? They were care home bastards. Who cares about that sort of social detritus? They were never going to be Conservative voting wealth creators, so who cares that some of my ministers wanted a bit of meat to bugger? Now, where’s Denis? Is it time for lunch? My name is Esmerelda 1967 in a yellow tasting box of woop woop! Oh dear I’ve wet myself again. Denis, clean time daddy! Yop!

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      • 467
        Tory Minister in the 80s says:

        We believe in family values. Now, shut up, little boy, or I’ll have you killed.

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        • 497
          Frank's son says:

          Oh dear! The poor little lefties have been found bang to rights trying to smear a tory and now they are trying to fling more mud about. Pity you weren’t so keen on making silly jokes when Blair issued a D notice over Operation Ore. It’s all just a game to lefties. They care not one jot about those who have been abused, their sole aim is to run around frantically trying to link ALL wrong-doing to the tories. Shame on you all.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            What is a Tory – haven’t many upped sticks and left and aren’t there many others who are still dithering over that just perhaps their party of old has been invaded?

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  91. 441
    Another Engineer says:

    I couldn’t find any reference to this above, so apologies if someone has already spotted it.

    It appears that http://www.tom-watson.co.uk has had the database connection removed and all the posts have disappeared.

    Anyone know why?
    ;-)

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    • 470
      The Memory Hole says:

      Tom Watson? Gone. Who Tom Watson? He never existed. He never said anything. If you believe he ever existed or ever said anything, you don’t exist. No website. No trace. No thing. Big Brother exist. Silence.

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  92. 445
    Tom Watson Smear Machine Has Gone Into The Repair Shop. says:

    That tory toff Basil Brush should be outed. Nasty tory with a bushy tail. Ginga! yuk

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  93. 450
    Political Perversions says:

    What I’m curious to know is why the same Tories who absolutely loathe consenting gay adults have no problem with some of their own ràping boys? They hate what some adults choose to do in the privacy of their own homes and call them deviants and every name under the sun, but they’re more than happy to cover up their friends buggering children. Is that just because they’re your friends or because you place no value on the lives of care home children? And before I’m accused of being partisan, I know Labour has its share of perverts too who’ve been looked after by the party. The glee over the case of mistaken identity betrays a perverse satisfaction in the focus having shifted from the pursuit of high ranking Tory nonces. Or is it because some of you are fellow travellers in that particular sexual proclivity?

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  94. 456
    Operation Crossbow says:

    I see this lot are hiding their own part in the Newsnight saga, Jesus it was THEIR story

    http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/11/10/abuse-victim-steven-messham-apologises-to-lord-mcalpine/

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    • 460
      nellnewman says:

      Yes. And what’s the betting that there is a link somewhere between TomWatson and this dodgy Bureau!!

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      • 510
        Operation Crossbow says:

        Their trustees are backtracking as well on this. Thing is why did the BBC need to use this lot in the first place?

        Channel 4 or Sky yes as they are much smaller organisations, but the BBC?

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        • 611
          Anonymous says:

          The BBC employs thousands of journalists. Why use the BIJ?
          How much licence payers money was the BIJ paid for such a shoddy piece of crap?

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  95. 458

    There are many things wrong with the management at the BBC.

    The first on the list is that they don’t manage.

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    • 463
      nellnewman says:

      Why is it that every time the beeb has a mega crisis Entwistle is out to dinner somewhere? He never seems to spend anytime in the beeb offices.

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      • 475

        If he were not allowed to eat again until he started to manage, there would be the swiftest turnaround you will have ever seen.

        The truth is that none of them have any experience of management in its truest sense. They use it as a word without even knowing what it means.

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      • 481
        The Land of the Politically Correct and Mendacious says:

        He was of course Head of BBC Vision responsible for the terrible Diamond Jubilee coverage and who went off on holiday abroad immediately afterward leaving his deputy to deal with the criticism….

        Like

  96. 469
    • 480
      Juvenal says:

      Te pаеdico.

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      • 502
        watp says:

        i know that many of you potato munchers are delighted that camilla is catholic- as indeed are a vast swathe of tories, but there is a whole big bunch of the british establishment that isn’t impressed in the slightest and if you think we’re going to allow the keys to the realm to be handed over to the vatican you are in for a rude fucking surprise.

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  97. 471
    Action This Day says:

    Dave — get Entwhistle to spend more time with his family from tonight — promote John Humphries or Paxo to the job.

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    • 483
      The Land of the Politically Correct and Mendacious says:

      Surely you mean one of the Dimbleby brothers they’re the corporation’s elite family given their Dad, Richard,was responsble for founding some of the flagship news programmes in the 50’s…it’s the BBC real version of “The Hour”

      Like

  98. 472
    Drop a Daisy cutter on ITV says:

    One week ago the nutjobs on here were saying that Newsnight bottled it.

    Like

    • 479
      the pork sword of truth says:

      Yeah they bottled it because the BBC were culpable, you dimwit.

      Like

    • 485
      Another Engineer says:

      They did bottle it. They should have named the person involved, if they thought they had the evidence.

      If they didn’t think they had the evidence, the programme should never have been broadcast.

      Like

  99. 474
    Anonymous says:

    Never use the same Monica twice

    Like

  100. 476
    Worm Squirm says:

    Ha ha ha Harperson trying to spin the problem as being Newsnight, not the BBC itself.

    Like

    • 543
      Lay down with dogs and you get fleas says:

      This morning the BBC was spinning that the victim and North Wales police were to blame and this evening they’re blaming it all on the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

      Like

  101. 477
    Can't be any worse says:

    Get Arch Welby and DG Entwhistle to do week-about shifts between their two pointless jobs.

    Like

  102. 491
    Tom Watson Smear Machine Has Gone Into The Repair Shop. says:

    I also think this has a bit of MicBride feel to it. Balls even. It is a very nasty smear machine. Maybe Watson has upped his game. I don’t think Watson is acting alone. They are least two others.

    Like

  103. 496
    nellnewman says:

    TomWatson, after taking down his website, now has folks posting on twitter saying “I hope you realise Mr Watson’s PMQ had nothing to do with the North Wales scandal?”

    LOL!!

    Like

    • 503
      Frank's son says:

      The fat slob is running scared, Nell. All mouth and no trousers. One smear too many for the odious fat prat.

      Like

    • 508
      I don't n e e d no doctor says:

      Who gave Watson the information to ask his PMQ question. Who had Watson been communicating with. Why isn’t Watson being interviewed by the media.

      Like

      • 522
        Tom Fatson is an odious mong says:

        Hopefully the stress will cause Fatson’s fatty-fat heart to explode. Tonight.

        We’ll have to stop laughing during tomorrow’s two minutes’ silence, though.

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      • 526
        Engineer says:

        If Watson has information relating to serious crimes, he should be passing it to the police, not using it to write obscure blog posts and make smeary statements in the HoC.

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  104. 500
    HenryV says:

    Wow I didn’t realise Maggie Hodge was so rich and a tax dodger whore. Her family’s company paid about £200,000 on £2 billion turnover. My dad, a semi-retired electrician, earned £5000 this year and HMRC have given him a bill for £1000.

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  105. 504
    Bollocks Broadcasting CHUMPS says:

    The BBC new just said Meesham wrongly identified his abuser. No he didn’t, the BBC never even showed him a photograph of Lord McAlpine.

    And just as bad is that the BBC missed a big story in that the Welsh plod had mistaken someone else for Lord McAlpine

    Their hatred for all things Thatcher made them lose the plot.

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  106. 506
    neothesis says:

    The BBC has been smearing its ideological enemies for years, its what they do and who they are, hate filled spiteful lefties, they dont care who they hurt or how they do it or what tactics they use. If you are an enemy of the left there are simply no rules because they dont have the moral integrity to apply them.

    All the times the BBC got away with smearing and attacking and making up smears and this time they were caught bang to rights and they were unable this time to squash the scandal in the normal ways. Its satisfying to see these grubby smear merchants get their just rewards.

    THE BBC, IN THE SEWER EVERYTHING STINKS OF SH*T.

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    • 531
      not a machine reloaded says:

      Episode VII : The Clone wars big transmitter
      With the debt star tumbleing towards a black hole and the Watson the Hut in hiding ,news has reached the rebel alliance of secret deadly mind altering transmitter station ,the Empire had hidden for some time . Although origionally for use by the Jedi , the sith have had a slow code 66 in operation , until what few remainig jedi were left have been kept in the secure cells and no longer invited to any green room functions , let alone produce any programs that would help people to ward off the dark side of the force and live responsible lives ,from the comfort of their own living rooms .
      Many have turned to the dark side of the force , useually to make a quick buck , but the sith has strong presence , and has kept many Jedis in low viewing and listening figures slots .
      Speak peace unto nation has been replaced with “its no longer your mind that matters” we are the Borg resistence is futile as is the requirement for proper fact checking when smearing .
      Prepare for the jump to hyper media select commite speed , or perhaps just prepare for the jump .

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  107. 507
    Blowing Whistles says:

    So who want’s to ponder a little deeper umm….

    Schofiled was “Quickly” reported to Ed Richards over at Ofcom.
    Ed Richards – did not get the BBC DG job – it was kept inhouse – for Mr Entwistle. (There’s nothing like keeping your own dirt inhouse and covered up eh?)
    Of course – who’s going to look at Ed Richards over at Ofcom – because there are many unanswered questions as to “its coming into being” and of who was brokering all the horsetrading deals at the time – when Blair was in charge and doubtless beholden to the Murdoch Coin.

    Of course there is a paper trail of odd happenings over at Ofcom from many of its current and past office holders … Could Ed Richards be hiding his own and others’ dirty laundry?

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  108. 509
    I don't n e e d no doctor says:

    The cowardly Watson is in hiding until parliament opens on Monday morning.

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    • 534
      nellnewman says:

      ++++Laughs++++

      He’s busy trying to get out the message on twitter that when he raised the NorthWales issue in PMQ’s he wasn’t actually talking about that and he never implied anybody at any time in No10 was involved.

      In fact now he looks back on it he can’t remember what it was he was trying to say!!

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  109. 512
    Gordon McNutter says:

    My balls ache! – never have found out why – anyone got ideas?

    Like

    • 515
      Trust me, I'm a freelance surgeon says:

      In these conditions we advise immediate amputation. Don’t worry about a thing, my hacksaw has a brand new blade and I have plenty of hot tar.

      Like

      • 517
        Gordon McNutter says:

        I’m not completely convinced. Can we try one to start with?

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      • 520
        I don't n e e d no doctor says:

        A rusty blade with several teeth missing would be far better.

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        • 527
          Tom Fatson is an odious mong says:

          A rusty spoon is the surgical implement of choice in matters such as this.

          Like

          • anonemo says:

            No need for anything as drastic as amputation. A 2lb ball pein hammer properly applied, on a flat surface, is even better. Tissue re-distribution is the technical term I think.

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  110. 513
    Kebab the right wing troll says:

    Margaret Hodge’s family company pays only 0.01% tax. http://bit.ly/SSZIrm Hope she realises her mistake.

    Like

  111. 519
    Labour News says:

    Doesn’t Ben Bradshaw’s boyfriend work for Newsnight?

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  112. 524
    George Osborne says:

    I’m watching In The Night Garden with my mum

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  113. 533
    Anonymous says:

    Didn’t Scallywag name McAlpine in the early 1990’s?

    In which case his name would have been known to journalists, police, security services, politicians, etc, and just about everyone McAlpine knew in a personal or professional capacity would have been aware of the story.

    All that’s changed now is that the plebs have heard the same story.

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  114. 536
    Anonymous says:

    When did McAlpine first learn that his cousin was a nonce?

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  115. 540
    lol says:

    Same old Labour: always smearing.

    Like

  116. 551
    Tea Party are a bunch of lunatics says:

    It’s now been announced Obama won Florida as well, which widens his margin of victory even more. Stick that in your pipe, righties!

    Like

    • 552
      school for scoundrels says:

      Who gives a fuck, Obama is still more right wing than Cameron will ever be. Stick that up your arse, you plonker.

      Like

  117. 553
    nellnewman says:

    The biased beeb’s DirectorGeneral Entwistle has resigned. We can only hope this is the beginning of the end!!

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    • 555
      Anonymous says:

      Unfortunate turn of phrase there nell, under the circumstances.

      Like

      • 561
        nellnewman says:

        +Sigh+ The beginning of the end for the biased beeb!! And so saving us all our license fee. Yes Yes I know and pigs will fly!

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    • 564
      Engineer says:

      54 days. Must be the shortest DG tenure in history.

      Raises questions about Patten’s judgement in appointing him.

      Paxman is said to be considering his position, as well; Boaden had already stood aside from her news responsibilities following questions over her judgement of the Savile reporting.

      Is there a cameraman somewhere in the Beeb willing to run it for a bit? Soon be the only employee left…

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      • 571
        Great British Public says:

        Shut the whole thing down.

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      • 581
        nellnewman says:

        The beeb said the Newsnight programme had been referred to the highest echelons and their lawyers for clearance. Difficult then to know how entwistle could claim yet again he knew nothing about it.

        But it also indicates that other heads need to roll. Patten at least had the grace to admit it was ‘shoddy journalism’. But that’s on par for the course with biased beeb journalism!!

        One can only hope this sad saga also marks the end of that shady leftwing Bureau of Investigative Journalism that the beeb paid with public money to put the programme together for them.

        Oh and lets not forget the resident weasel who sowed the seeds of this whirlwind, the incomparable, one and only tomwatson who has currently taken down his blog and gone and hid in his bedroom with his Xbox!!!

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    • 579
      Expat Geordie says:

      They are having a celebration for their 90th birthday on Wednesday 14th November. Wonder if they will make 91?

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      • 589
        Anonymous says:

        there are around 2,000 journalists employed by the BBC.
        Why did they need to employ the shadowy Bureau of Investigative Journalists FFS?

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        • 597
          lobby fodder says:

          Apparently journalists actually investigating something is a specialised activity.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Is the BBC’s idea of investigating to take smears and innuendo spread by Tom Watson, George Monbiot and Sally Bercow and present it all as fact?

            Like

  118. 555
    lol says:

    Entwhistle resigns. The BBC is a shambles. Scrap the licence fee!

    Like

  119. 557
    Left wing Beeboid fuckwit says:

    BBC DG resigns breaking news on wait for it…..Fecking Sky and ITV . They can’t even get the scoop on their own DG

    RT @MBarrettCH: Who should be the next DG? Get Philip Schofield to Google it for three minutes, he’ll find some names.

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    • 585
      Expat Geordie says:

      Sounds like the 1980’s comedy “Hot Metal” where the newspaper editor commits suicide and everyone leads with it, except his paper, who missed the story.

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  120. 558
    Left wing Beeboid fuckwit says:

    BBC DG resigns breaking news on wait for it…..Fecking Sky and ITV . They can’t even get the scoop on their own DG

    RT @MBarrettCH: Who should be the next DG? Get Philip Schofield to Google it for three minutes, he’ll find some names.

    Haha

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    • 572
      Winnie the Pooh says:

      Not for me thank you.

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    • 593
      Blowing Whistles says:

      I just might apply for the job – that’d scare the 5hit out of the commies still there. And what with the evidence I posses against them

      P.S. It’s well worth reading Bookers pieces up ‘now’ on Telegraph website about some issues of national concern.

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  121. 560
    Chlöe Sal Gerbeeba says:

    For George Entwistle : Checkmate

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  122. 562
    Silly Sally B13 COW says:

    Now that Entwhistle has resigned will I be ejected from little Johnny’s grace and favour accommodation in the Palace of Westminster or will I be hauled up in court because of my libellous twitterings first ?

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  123. 565
    Synic says:

    Dave — Are you awake? — Take the opportunity NOW to sort out the fxcking BBC —- GET ON WITH IT YOU WEAK CNUT

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  124. 570
    Bent Badshow says:

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  125. 576

    Now confirmed that Winnie the Pooh is appointed new permanent DG of BBC.

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  126. 582
    suissebob says:

    Pissing myself laughing at the circular firing squad Mr Fawkes so successfully predicted, except for the bit where the BBC decided to join the party, upping the stakes and bringing WMD to the game.

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  127. 583
    The BBC are cunts says:

    We would like to point out that the departing DG, George Entwhistle, joined the BBC in 1989, towards the end of the Thatcher era.

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  128. 586
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Telegraph are reporting Paxman is thinking of walking as well. Rats jumping ship? Would be a good time for Cameron to put the BBC out of it’s misery. Break it up, sell of parts of it and scale it back and scrap the TV tax.

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  129. 587
    PISS OFF DAVE says:

    One useless prat has resigned tonight — Will Dave make it a 2 for 1 deal?

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  130. 588

    What on earth is to happen to Helen Boaden?
    Is that the sound of a revolver I hear loadin?

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  131. 592
    Breaking news says:

    GEORGE ENTWISTLE HAS RESIGNED!

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  132. 595
    DUMP THE BERCOW says:

    WHEN WILL SPEAKER BERCOW NOW RESIGN HIS WIFE?

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  133. 600
    Anon......... says:

    The Beeb’s new DG resigning so soon that has tobe Fatchers fault & no one

    else…….

    although Fatty Fang Pang Chairman of BBC (Dis)Trust must also fall on his

    sword………he was responsible for anointing George Entwhistle after blowing

    £300K plus, of licence payers extorted money on recruitment consults.

    bad choice, bad decision by fatty Fang Pang

    He is the weakest link …..so ite good bye George……. & soon to be Fatty Fang Pang

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  134. 607
    nellnewman says:

    I think they should offer the DG’s job to tomwatson. They deserve each other.

    Like

  135. 608
    Mr Blobby says:

    I am delighted to have been chosen as the new Director General of the bbc. My first priority will be to increase the TV licence fee. Blobby blobby blobby!

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  136. 609
    Jeremy 'TaxPlan' Paxman says:

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  137. 613
    • 620
      Little Johnny B13COW says:

      That’s simply because I live in grace and favour accommodation in the West Wing of the Palace of Westminster and she lives in the East Wing.

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      • 625
        Anonymous says:

        She really doesn’t get it does she.
        Her husband’s position is completely untenable. How can he preside over hearings in the House during the months and years ahead when this matter is discussed?

        Does he simply excuse himself and say “Woops- I shouldn’t be here now as my wife was one of the main culprits behind the spread of false accusations against a senior political figure”?

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        • 628
          Anonymous says:

          Sally Bercow is living in the lap of luxury PAID FOR BY US.
          With that comes responsibility.She has brought shame on the office of Speaker and I don’t want one penny of my taxes supporting this disgraceful woman.

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    • 632
      Trollop Watch says:

      has she really no idea why she has a free home provided by the taxpayer underneath Big Ben?

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  138. 614

    What a safe pair of hands looks like:

    http://ind.pn/RPlHxY

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  139. 615
    Universal Hiss says:

    Well all this BBC bollocks is making my night.

    (I probably need to get out more.)

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  140. 617
    Universal Hissing says:

    Mad mod bot alert!

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  141. 621
    Universal Hiss says:

    I’m so sorry mod bot. I spoke too soon.

    Do I have to resign? What’s the golden goodbye figure?

    Like

  142. 626
    albacore says:

    “He has behaved as editor with huge honour and courage and would that the rest of the world always behaved the same.”
    Well, that’s the moxie according to Patten
    If you act poxy, you pass on the baton
    Now, if Parliament had the same rule applied
    Not one of the bums would be left sat inside

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    • 636
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Perhaps the twats in Parliament and many of their friends fail to understand Irony and Satire – and I could of course just turn over to CH4 and watch the rerun of “There’s something about Mary” – sweet.
      p.s. Looking forward to see how the dead tree press SPIN IT ALL UP on Sunday. “Double result”.

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  143. 627
    Winnie the Pooh says:

    How two faced, sat down watching evil Rupert Murdoch #skymovies.
    Wonder who’s paying for that?

    https://twitter.com/SallyBercow/status/267394664397672448

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  144. 633
  145. 634
    Pussers Rum says:

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  146. 635
    Vanity fare says:

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  147. 639
    Wobbly Dave says:

    I intend to seize the day and make sure everything at the BBC just carries on as normal and will probably invite them to increase the licence fee.

    Like

  148. 640
    They are all pedalos says:

    Keep pedalling we are nearly there.

    Like

  149. 641
    goooooaaaaaaaal! says:

    BBC, Guardian, Labour Party, your boys took a hell of a beating tonight!

    Like

  150. 643
    Jeremy 'TaxPlan' Paxman says:

    It takes one to know one…

    Like

  151. 647

    Some names at BBC top level who might wish to consider their positions:

    Helen Boaden, Director, BBC News
    Sue Inglish, Head of Political Programmes, Analysis and Research
    Adrian Van Klaveren, Controller, Radio 5 Live (some possible mitigating circumstances here)
    Stephen Mitchell, Deputy Director of News and Head of News Programmes
    Francesca Unsworth, Head of Newsgathering
    Alan Yentob, BBC Creative Director (included for historical reasons – not for his current role)

    The entire:
    BBC Trust
    Executive Board
    Management Board
    News Group

    Many within:
    Vision
    Operations (part), the entire Human Resources and Communications teams

    Caroline Thomson, Chief Operating Officer and also deputised for the Director-General, had already announced she was leaving before this latest scandal broke and left at the end of September.

    At lower levels:
    Peter Rippon, Newsnight’s editor
    Liz Gibbons, Newsnight’s acting editor (some possible mitigating circumstances here)

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