LibDems: Don’t Vote for Us!
Guido will forever be perplexed by the inner workings of the LibDem mind. Down in Brighton they are taking their defeatism to a whole new level by telling residents not to vote for their party’s candidate in next week’s PCC elections. In a letter sent to LibDem members, the chair and vice chair of Brighton and Hove LibDems – Brian Stone and Simon Doyle, explain:
“We find ourselves in an unusual position. As experienced campaigners who have worked for LibDem candidates at various elections and over many years, we are asking you not to vote for a LibDem candidate for the post of elected Police and Crime Commissioner for Sussex.”
Instead of backing the LibDem, party members are being instructed to cast their ballot for ‘RON’, re-opening nominations and keeping the PPC post free from party politics. They really don’t get this whole winning elections thing, do they…
UPDATE: LibDem sources point out that the leaflet is from the internal election to select a candidate.
So thats their first vote – how should their second preference vote go?
You’re not obliged to put a second ‘X’.
chutney
“we are asking you not to vote for a LibDem candidate”
Sound advice and not before time.
Police commisioners , an utterly stupid idea. Who thought that one up ?
We have five people on the ballot paper. Only one is an independent. He’ll be the one getting my vote.
No place for politics in policing. Otherwise you get cover-ups like the Met turning a blind eye to phone tapping while Murdoch was supporting labour.
The Labour candidate in Gloucester this morning saying she wouldn’t allow ‘her’ police to prevent disruption of a badger cull. Not sure she should get involved at that low level, really…
Not sure this political extemist should be allowed to work with people at all. This is typical of the fundamentalists who infest our Politics.
Yep – agree. However here we have only 3 nominees – one labour, one conservative and one UKIP. I don’t support UKIP but this post should be non-political, and failing that, where there is no choice, at least UKIP should work hard to represent the local people in the hope of gaining voters, whereas the other two will be political puppets.
We have Con, Lab, LD, UKIP and two independents.
Guess which two (that’s TWO, geddit?) I’ve voted (postally) for.
Would one of those be the zero tolerance ex army independent by any chance
Fucking nonces
I agree with them.
Let’s keep party politics out of policing – that and Freemasonry.
what’s free about free.mason.ry.
It’s all part of my cunning plan! You see, if I tell people not to vote for us, then people will say In that case, I’ll vote for them! And so people who would have voted for us, when told not to vote for… No, hang on a minute…. If people weren’t going to vote for us, and then we tell them not to vote for us, they will… Hold on, I’ll come back to you on this one…
What a wanker
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If you were abused by a Labour politician call on 00000198776543211
If you were abused by a Lib Dem call 0000198776543212
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To be fair, we were all fucked by Gordon Brown.
Except his wife
To be fair, even if Broon was not a fudgepacker, the thought of mounting Mrs Broon for any sort of pleasure, is vomit enducing.
DOH!
*inducing
I fail to see how politicising the police is a step forward.
Nor does anyone else except Camoron.
Ay up its Chief Wiggum of Humberside here. Vote for me otherwise I will kiss some babies
Hey Chief , if you become head honcho will it be ok for Humberside cops to have sex with civilian staff in the office on company time ?
A Police horse will have to go without his coat this winter so they can provide Prescott with a tunic.
As a bonus the horse could be fed to the comissioner thus killing two birds with one stone.
Hold on a minute. Can we all vote for ‘RON’ or is it just the brave people of Brighton?
We all deserve to have our own ‘RON’. It isn’t fair if we don’t.
Ronald! Ronald? Who the feck is ‘RON’?
?
Ron Davies? Ron Jeremy?
He’s from the government and he’s here to help?
There’s an ‘ole bunch o’ lads who’d vote for Ron. All’s ‘e ‘ad to do wuz give’m the say-so and they’d do wha’ever ‘e told’em. Fings wuz different in the old days. Ya didn’t need yet anuvva big-boss rozzer ta ‘ave to grease the palm of, didja? Keep it simples, I say.
Ah, c’mon, now. The whole thing’s a joke
Hasn’t Dave spotted the country’s broke?
Or is his brain so way past bending
That this is just compulsive spending?
I demand an inquiry into why Theresa May is holding an inquiry into an inquiry from the 90s when there is a police investigation going on.
Shut your mouth or I’ll get my mates to shut it for you!
Dipso druggy perverts that would rather be pooing on each other than ‘leading’.
Home Secretary Theresa May is expected to make a statement in the Commons this afternoon about how the police handled historic allegations of child abuse in Wales.
Prime Minister David Cameron has already ordered an investigation into whether a previous inquiry did its job properly. The move, announced during a trip to Abu Dhabi, comes after a p*edophile victim alleged that an unidentified Conservative Party figure had abused children in social care during the 1970s.
Speaking on the second day of his visit to the region, Mr Cameron said: “These are very, very concerning allegations, they are dreadful allegations. We must get to the bottom of it as quickly as possible on behalf of the victims. That is why I have ordered this rapid investigation into the previous inquiry to find out whether there was something wrong with it and make sure the victims are properly listened to.
“The Home Secretary will be speaking to the House of Commons and making sure that the police have the capacity to deal with these allegations and make sure no stone is left unturned in getting to the bottom of these appalling matters.”
Erm, is Dave acting urgent enough?
It couldn’t possibly be a bluff
Still, best to have absolute confirmation
Investigate the new investigation!
I demand in independent inquiry into why the Prime Minister has not returned from Abu Dhabi to announce this inquiry personally.
I’ll start with the bottom and work my way up
The other two abusers who were allegedly secretly filmed with Alpine torturing and r*ping a boy must be shitting themselves now. If such a video exists, it was clearly made with future blackmail in mind. It’ll now probably be used as leverage to cut a deal for Alpine to give the other two up in return for charges being dropped. Lesser individuals of small or no significance, relative to the main pereptrator, are always required to take the fall and be the visible scalping for the public’s satisfaction, whilst the most senior criminals evade justice.
I say chaps looks like Gideon will be putting his hand in your pocket again – http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-05/the-greeks-are-on-the-brink-once-more
Anyway must get back to selling UK weapons to dictators with appalling human rights records.
Pip pip
And while I am at it I will allow Bashar al-Assad to come to the UK
Just make sure you get today’s cheque for £53,000,000 in the post to me pronto, you little Scottish pigdog British vermin.
And don’t you give me that “I can’t really afford it” nonsense again. Just close a few hospitals, cancel disability benefits, shut a few care homes and scrap your army.
Herman, George is on with it now, but I am afraid it will be a Postal Order as he has lost the Government chequebook !
Vote for me and I promise to replace Humberside Police’s fleet of 10 year old Protons with Jags.
How many Beeboids have the Brown Balls Corporation sent over to cover the USA election, why does every feckin’ show have to have their own staff there FFS! Please can you find out pronto Guido?
God knows what the cost will be,time for the licence fee to be reduced by a third initially and phaed out over 10 years
I’ve just been signed off from work because of a back injury, my doctor told me I can’t lift anything heavy for two weeks..
Now I’m forced to sit down when I piss.
I don’t believe these allegations against Jimmy Savile. I met him in Leeds General Hospital in the 1980s and he seemed very nice.
Next people will be telling me he wasn’t qualified to perform my prostate examination.
Quite frankly, the real problem with the Liberal Democrats has always been their lack of fashion sense.
When did you last see a well-dressed Liberal Democrat? Well?
Exactly!
I did approach the gin-soaked ginger about this many years ago, but he was too pissed to bother.
More recently I offered to design a new khaki look for Team Clegg, but he just harrumphed at the idea. The man is a New Labour twit anyway.
This beggars belief, I demand a judge led enquiry
Belief beggaring started in America
David,
I sympathise, but if you commie Brits want to be SUCCESSFUL you need to grasp that liberals do as liberals are.
Why are you allowing a political party called ‘Liberal’ anyway?
The problem with all liberals is they resent the fact I am SUCCESSFUL.
This is why liberals never win elections – they lack for formula for SUCCESS.
My guess is that what is happening with this PCC is that the liberals do not want any of their number to enjoy SUCCESS.
Itchy?
Cameron is a bloody fool. Once created, Political Police commissioners will be with us forever and their offices will grow ever bigger and wasteful.
There was an excellent programme on the radio about how we should have fewer police forces, perhaps about 10 rather than 44 (Scotland now has 1). Once the Commissioners exist(sounds too EU to me) then there will be no chance of reducing the number of forces.
Add to the cost of the tsar all the support staff, offices, HL&P, travel, PR etc
And don’t forget EXPENSES as they will not.
“I can think of better ways of spending my time than sat in a swamp with a bucket of maggots on my head”
Chair, Mid Beds Conservative Assoc
Certainly not a sentence I’ve seen before.
A sitting MP taking part in a 1 month reality TV show. While we pay her. As country faces massive crisis. Fucking insulting is what that is.
If they don’t like it let them eat kangaroo bollocks
Dorries does actually turn up to vote in the House of Commons, isn’t time Gordon Brown copied her example?
What is this word reality they make mention of when talking about I’m a Celebrator ?
Gudio
As you rightly point out in your update, this is very old news, dating back to when the party was deciding to run a candidate or not.
The Brighton and Hove local party are supporting David Rogers, the Liberal Democrat candidate, following the vote in favour of the Lib Dems standing a candidate in Sussex.
I am I too naive to expect Guido to check his facts, but there again that would ruin a good story, wouldn’t it?
Error 1. Brighton and Hove Lib Dems is “telling residents not to vote for their party’s candidate in next week’s PCC elections”. Where did you get that information? Look at the leaflet. It is addressed “Dear member’ and asks them to support “Reopening nominations.’ What kind of local leaflet would do that? How can people vote to reopen nominations in the PCC elections? The clue was in the leaflet.
Error 2. “party members are being instructed to cast their ballot for ‘RON’.” Context is everything, but Guido does not take the time to check it out. My number is on the leaflet and he could have checked it with me. But truth too often gets in the way of a good falsehood.
Let me explain things for you.
- Some of Sussex Lib Dems wanted to put a party candidate for the local police commissioner elections.
- Brighton and Hove Lib Dems opposed the idea. We were of the view the police commissioner role should be free from party politics (and that would have to include our own).
- Sussex Lib Dems had to decide which these options to go for. Being the most democratic party in mainstream politics, each Lib Dem member in the region gets a vote. David Rogers, the Lib Dem candidate put his case for the post, and we put the case for ‘Reopening Nominations’ – the only way local members could show support for a ‘no candidate’ campaign. The leaflet you are quoting was our argument for candidate and went out to all members with David case for his selection.
So … let me repeat again … the leaflet was not an instruction of anyone not to vote for our candidate. The leaflet went out when we had no candidate and argued for no candidate. It is called democracy.
The result. We made the case but we lost. We have now selected David Rogers as the Lib Dem candidate for the Sussex Police Commissioner and Brighton and Hove Lib Dems are out working for his election on 15th November.
If you are a Sussex voter please vote for David Rogers!!
It makes perfect sense. Lib Dems are the quintessential bandwagon jumpers and not voting Lib Dem is hugely popular with voters these days.