Jail-dodging Denis MacShane has some nerve. Next week the shamed expenses cheat will speak at a “Crisis in Policing” debate to mark the launch of the 2013 Orwell Prize. The only crisis in policing is the fact that the phone-hacking investigation took specialist officers away from nailing him over his £125,000 expenses fiddle. A man who should be behind bars gloating about the problems faced by those who failed to nab him. Ballsy…
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Andrew Pierce on Ed Balls…
“Porky Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls sweet-talked guests at a fund-raising dinner by saying if he wasn’t a politician, he would be a chef. That’s not surprising, since he was accused of cooking the Treasury books when he was Gordon Brown’s boot boy.”
Bloody foreigners, coming over here taking all our twitter followers
Mithter spthpeaker Mithter spthpeaker
How do I jumpth on thith bandwagon?
Can we have an inquiry into Milibands £ millions, we know they’re hidden somewhere.
I am the son of a socialist so it ith impossthible for me to be a millionaire.
If you’re the son of a socialist, surely it would be impossible for you not to be a millionaire.
Or we can just wait until after the next election, then Miliband can have an inquiry into why he lost the election so badly after he had a small mid-term lead.
The rest of us already know the answer, and so do some of those in the Labour party.
Jimmy Savile scandal: Harman says ‘lessons must be learned’
Is it ‘time to move on’ yet?
“No stone will be left unturned”
Draw a line in the sand.
Labour party no longer use that one. The last line being drawn in sand being outside Basra airport as we scuttled out of that unhappy country.
“We must engage with communities”, “have a big conversation” and “move forwards”.
‘ Can I get a sprite please ? ‘
I thought it went,’no turd will be left unstoned’.
I suspect the Euro-Fanatic MacShane has done enough to please Brussels and ensure a happy life hereafter.
Do you mean “in the hereafter”?
Wasn’t the Orwell Prize once won by that great journalist Kohan Hari?
Sheer class.
have you got a moment?
All MP’s are crooks.
Vote independent.
Get rid off all the current idiots and vote in people who’ll reform parliament, completely!
Too many of the current crop of idiots don’t care because a monkey with the right colour rosette would get elected, so don’t have to care what the electorate think about.
We get to vote for them, 1ce and cynicism states they can do whatever they like for all but the last year of the parliamentary session!
good idea re independents. do we need to pay more to get a better calibre?
do we need to pay more to get a better calibre
Normally yes but even a .22 will do the job if you shoot the fuckers in the right place.
gun control makes sense. unsure whether as a country, we are mature enough. When we cannot handle power, power gets taken away.
The best form of gun control is using both hands. Or a bipod.
A .303 Lee Enfield does a really good job – No. 4 – one of the best production rifles ever. Just using the sling wrapped round the forearm in the approved 1950′s manner could give a bull at 800 yds. But you don’t need to pay more, they are very cheap now that everyone wants a semi-automatic with a Russian name.
Politicians in the UK are avid supporters of gun control out of a strong sense of self preservation. They can sell out our country and its people, rob us blind and still live the life of Riley.
You really are nuts Dr N if you think turkeys are going to vote for Xmas.
Do you really think any parliamentary candidate is going to stand on a platform of “vote in people who’ll reform parliament completely” & will act on it when elected?
Wow another comment has ‘disappeared’ within hours of it being posted up!!!!!!!! Indeed.
Only the ones in office silly
Dead horse, Guido, dead horse. Get over it.
Billy
What is the story on Guido and the dead horse? Why is it so hard for him to get over it?
Your enchanted fan
Denis is always welcome on our shows, always to be introduced as an impartial expert on European matters.
Dennis Mcshame is a typical Labour MP. Spiteful, sanctimonious, and utterly deluded. I saw him on his high horse the other day in Parliament, and you’d never guess he was a expenses fiddling ‘tard.
Why, oh why, do people vote Labour?
Why, oh why, do people vote Labour
Because their dad did.
So did my dad jgm2. In fact he used to tell my mum how to vote!
However, I think even he would baulk at today’s arseh*les.
On the other hand……………..
jgm2 is your dad?
Always thought he was a naughty boy…
Oh!
So your father was a P a kistani?
What Beast? jgm2 is a Pаkistani too. I am shaken to the core.
Why do people for any party?
All for the same reason: Baa!! Baa!!
I’m not Pаkistani although I was born in Birmingham so I can see how confusion might arise.
pay parties to detach from their paymasters
quality independents who are not wealthy would also need state funding. change is slow, hard.
Because their Mammy told them to. Bitty!!!!
They vote Labour because Labour support higher taxes on other people to fund their benefits
OK ‘cat’, my grammar was lousy (sorry). I did deserve that remark, and there’s no excuse really, as I wasn’t educated under Labour. Is it too early to blame it on the booze?
No worries. It provided a great laugh that did not offend jgm2, I dare say…
It is never too late to blame it on the booze. Cheers!
How many Labour voters can find their fathers?
Just wait until the offspring get arrested and match up their DNA on the computer.
We try not to take DNA from Labour people, ACPO have ordered us not to. Common Purpose apparently.
How do you know they are really Labour people unless you take their DNA ?
Because our parents were married.
What? To each other, Jimmy?
Must be older than you’d guess. I think even Labour parents used to be married back in the 1960′s.
Today it would be unheard of. Even the party leader only did it because the voters were asking questions.
True – and as he can spell properly and has good grammar and syntax, I would put him at mid to late 50s.
I order all plebs to pay their sin tax.
He’s 51.
Dennis is innocent as am I. We are both hard working Right Honourable Members of integrity, purity, honesty and enlightenment, so lay off, or my boys will be paying you a visit. Boaz.
Boaz Handy.
I thought Labour had kicked him out?
As is serial crook, Keith Vaz. He was all over BBC today.
As is Cameron a crook.
There’s no difference, except in the deluded imaginations of the party voters!
imagine fictional Blair at the top of the pyramid. Anyone who looked upto him in politics is compromised.
The EU commissioner for health, John Dalli, has resigned after an anti-fraud inquiry linked him to an attempt to influence tobacco legislation.
The EU’s anti-fraud office (Olaf) found that a Maltese businessman had tried to use his contacts with Mr Dalli, who is also Maltese, for financial gain.
That can’t be right. Nobody at the EU has ever resigned over fraud.
Usually with the comrades at the EU commission, the whistleblowers are arrested or forced out, not members of the commission. The Maltese mafia clearly don’t have the clout of other gangsters, that, or he made some high level enemies among the comrades.
or the world is just a different place now. There has been a global change in mindset since the crash of ’08. Truth is finding it difficult to hide.
You’re right jgm2. He must have had to go becuase he wasn’t doing enough fraud. Small time thinkers these Maltesers.
Strewth,a resignation in the EU as a result of a fraud inquiry;they’ll be publishing their accounts soon.
Like it + an EU Nobel prize (1.2 million Euros!!!). What Marta Andreason lied and Kinnock didn’t …
Wasn’t the twat shopkeeper stooge who got al-Megrah banged up Maltese? They seem like a right bunch of Hunts.
Is Malta somehow ‘related’ to the UK and the establishment? If so it follows…
“The only crisis in policing is the fact that the phone-hacking investigation took specialist officers away from nailing him over his £125,000 expenses fiddle.”
This ignores the other crisis in policing, namely that most of them are pretty crap.
Problems in policing primarily stem from labours’ love child, Acpo, home of the ‘right on, upwardly mobile, brigade. Totaly PC, unfortunately not in the context that the public have a right to expect from those initials.
Perhaps McShame could look more closely at some of the policing failures in his own constituency?
BAng on sir!
This was always the expected result of fast tracking namby-pamby graduates to the jobs that count whose mickey mouse degrees ensured a right-on attitude in the middle ranks of the Police SERVICE.
That’ll be Conor Burns then, getting the shoehorn in at the Culture, Media & sport committee.
You could never include rough, tough coppers like Brian (butcher than Dave Cameron) Paddick in that,
Could you?
ACPO is riddled with common purpose vermin.
Plenty of lessers o/side of the ACPO – have been on the courses – Step forward Christopher Lee (Course taken via Hants Police – but he works for Dorset police) – and yes that’s his name ….
That’s why I abolished ACPO.
ACPO = A Common Purpose Organisation.
All clear now? Mind how you go.
I don’t know if they start off crap but a few months/years of arresting folk, filling out paperwork etc etc only to appear in court and have some c*unt handed ‘community service’ for assault (Eric Joyce) or community service for a string of burglaries or community service for stealing a c*ar, dr*iv*ing at excess speed and torching the thing would quickly demotivate anybody.
Now, imagine, having witness Basher Joyce get off with community service, and a whole shitload of MPs walk away with ‘their integrity intact’ over the expenses scandal, just how motivated you would be.
No wonder plod is fucking useless. The courts are fucking useless. The MPs are fucking crooks.
The whole system is fucked.
old money – kiddie fiddlers.
new money – war mongers.
One Nation of Strivers – the ThankYou Society.
They’re not crap – the speeding drivers are a hardened criminal class!!
Thieves, muggers, rapists, drug dealers and murderers are a waste of police time. There’s no bonus for catching them unless it’s a ‘police operation!’.
Lefties don’t understand morals or the irony of saying one thing and doing another.
In their little deluded worlds they are always right and history does not exist.
Agreed, likewise liberals and conservatives.
In the deluded worlds of all the party voters, their party becomes a collective of paragons of virtue by a mystical process comprising rose tinted spectacles.
Feeling better then Dr N – your content has improved.
n.b. As long as the public remain divided (which all the political parties rely on -it their jobs to be seen to throwing dirt at one another) – the public on election day will always be RULED OVER – by the appointed states ‘appointed decievers’.
Anyone tried shutting down parliament for a year or so , see how things goes with out it .
Save a truckload of money on pay & expenses for no productivity .
Can any police officer put his or her head above the political parapet and let me know if it is actually FACTUALLY and INCONTROVERTIBLY. A crime to cycle on the pavement
Or is it dependent on how the chief constable is feeling that day and whether he s. a bike man who likes a bit of pensioner crushing as a hobby ?
I could direct you to bicycle lanes painted on the pavements near where I work. You take your life in your hands if you try to walk on the pavements – you just can’t hear the buggers coming up behind you until it’s too late. The bicycle bell has seemingly fallen into disuse.
Just break the neck of any cyclist you come across – they’re all cun*ts.
You rang?
Not as ballsy as someone with a criminal record blogging about it.
Satan giving you a break from his pitchfork today Jimmy?
On the contrary. I’m being punished. Beelzebub has nicknamed you “the Tenth Circle”
Fakes didnt steal your money Jimmy
#Hemay have been in danger of mowing you down in his car on a few occassion, however, he didnt steal from you
So Money vs Human Life?
That’s not for you to decide. That’s what NICE are for.
The problem’s further down the food chain than the Criminal Excrements people, who -by and large- make decisions based upon criteria of the utmost objectivity.
There then follows a ‘lottery bonus round’, whose importance wasn’t properly appreciated when the system was set up: whether you get the treatment that NIHCE recommended, depends to a large extent on the Primary Care Trust which holds the purse strings where you live.
The PCTs are the closest thing we have to the ‘Death Panels’ that critics of Obamacare like to talk about.
When will we be reading about your case J?
McShame is a disgrace. Not only the expenses, but he is in complete denial about the Rotherham sex-trafficking scandal and refused to censure his Liebour cronies on Rotherham Council. Last week he spoke in support of the UAF at the EDL march in Rotheham and affronted everybody by swearing down a megaphone! The bloke is a joke!!!!
The British establishment sure does a history of covering up assaults and r@pes against children. Perhaps the white working classes should think long and hard before joining the armed forces. Consider just what sort of people you are really fighting for.
How many ‘second homes’ did Alistair Darling have in one single year?
Well he’s a politician , therefore entirely lacking in trust and honesty, so I’m betting it was at least three.
Dunno the statistic for one year, but I recall it as being 4 in 3 years.
How come when Abu Hamza faced extradition and he said: “I’ll kill myself”, nobody gave a fuck?
When a retard (missed him) says the same, the fucking kleenex comes out?
Because muzees are dirty child noncing terrorist raghead c-unts who we don’t want here living off the state.
Agreed, we should have a new Mosq tax to fund all their benefits.
I’m going to kill myself if you don’t drop all child abuse inquiries about me.
Oooh, you are awful,but I like you.
The Government applies a points system for extradition requests
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Felix_von_Luschan_Skin_Color_Chart.JPG
(dabs tear from cheek)
Now then now then nobody notices who the groomers were in Rochdale nor their numbers hows about that then boys and girls?
I don’t know but if someone had made a joke about Ed Miliband, Gordon Brown or Tony Blair cutting their own throat, I think Labour and the police would have come down on them like a ton of bricks.
Naaah. I think Merton or Hislop would probably have made the same comment about Brown.
I wonder how much tax Ken is paying on his appearance fee. 20%? Less?
if as a country we are running a protection racket for paedos then our elite may be paying less tax than romney. He paid 18% last year.
If Washington see an equivalence between Gary McKinnon and Abu Hamza then they are the ones who become the fair weather friends.
Agreed there SC – save to add They have been fair weather friends for decades. Got most of the UK’s politicians in their pockets.
I will probably spoil the harmony by saying that, like most relationships, ours with America is complex. There are few black and whites, only different shades of grey. I would put USA for UK at 70% good. The remainder ranges from mediocre to very bad.
Compare with Iran, Syria, Libya those figures would be reversed – at best.
SC – the problem is if I may be so bold – you mention 70% – now is that of the general public / the population? Because the real deal is of the elite % who set out to decieve the public / the population “On both sides of the Atlantic”.
Ahh deception! – how about:- that most Americans [USA - all that gung ho guff] are too stoopid to realise what their ‘elite & monied freeloading senators’ are actually up to?
No. BW. I was talking about the relationship in all its many forms. It was a gut figure and was not meant to be scientifically determinable. But it follows my approach of trying to analyse what is good or bad about a situation, without involving attribution, and then deciding where the balance of favour lies.
When you have done that, and to a certain extent it must be subjective, then one can look at how to redress any imbalance – which is where the people and the politics are brought back into the picture. That is where it can become a quagmire.
You are right that it is mostly, but not completely, the legislators. There is their press and other vested interests. There is the culture as well. Guns and religion, for example, provide vast differences in our national outlooks.
If you are making a point that it appears that many people are ignorant of what their legislators are committing them to then I would agree with you there as well.
SC – isn’t Usury deception? My 1939 pristine copy of the All England Law reports [AELR] books [vols 1-4] states as much of “a case that went to the House of Lords in December 1939. Funny how so many legals since 1945 – don’t want to refer to the particular case in question mind! Nudge, nudge, wink, wink Sir Not Fred the Shred … that sort of thing.
BTW – I have a vast collection of books pre-1939 that thankfully were not burned – what were they trying to hide with all these book burnings?
Too big a subject to cover adequately but:
The Crowther Committee report of 1971 provided much of the basis for the Consumer Credit Act 1974 which was amended by the Consumer Credit Act 2006.
It codified the haphazard layers of complex legislation it replaced but with one huge disadvantage IMO. The APR was a bastard child of an effort to make matters understandable to the consumer and it failed dismally on a number of scores, some quite technical even though valid in problematicality.
It established the concept of an Extortionate Credit Bargain where the court could re-open the terms of such an agreement. It has now been changed since I left and I don’t have a clue about what prevails now. I am shot of all that.
I can safely predict that your 1939 volume will not contain a single reference to the current state of law but does constitute a nice piece of history. The Hire Purchase Act 1964 (s27) Innocent purchaser provisions was the last survivor of the old legislation and was still current in 2000 when I bowed out.
The case referred to is Myers V Ellman – should be out there on the net somewhere.
The real issue is that a whole string of Prime Ministers have used the special relationship to increase their earnings potential after they have lost the job.
Thatcher,Major,Blair,Brown have all made money from a range of activities over the pond.. What favours did they have to grant to do that? In Blair’s case, he was prepared to support wars,pass biased extradition laws and bend the truth to pave the way for financial security . Seems to have worked for him though.
Quite what Gordon Brown is lecturing America about is another question -they may ask him for a refund in due course.
If you leave your front door open, don’t be surprised if strangers take a look in. Close the door.
My argument in a nutshell.
Can we talk about hacking now?
I like to leave my backdoor open and see who fancies popping in.
Since I came into office, the sole issue on which I have been required to make a decision is whether Mr McKinnon’s extradition to the United States would breach his human rights.
Mr McKinnon is accused of serious crimes. But there is also no doubt that he is seriously white. The legal question before me is now whether the extent of that whiteness is sufficient to preclude extradition.
After careful consideration of all of the relevant material, I have concluded that Mr McKinnon’s extradition would give rise to such a high risk of the Daily Mail ending my political career that a decision to extradite would be incompatible with my human rights.
I have therefore withdrawn the extradition order against Mr McKinnon. It will now be for the director of public prosecutions to decide Mr McKinnon has no case to answer in a UK court.
@79 and totally lacking wit,ie witless.
There is a serious point behind all this though. The Gary McKinnon extradition has been set aside due to his physiological and psychological state.
There is a strong case that, even if he were 100% fit, he should not be extradited. That is not the same as to say there should be no extradition at all but simply that it should be subject to a much clearer and limited set of rules than exist currently and that it should be even handed.
The extradition treaty between UK & USA is strongly biased in favour of the latter & should never have been signed by us. The sooner it is annulled & replaced with a more equal treaty,the better.
Quite!
And who introduced it? Let me see…
And as was pointed out over the weekend – Blair and Straw were the so called brians – behind this two-way street of extradition. Look at who’s side Blair & Straw were evidently on; Or were they in some way ‘compromised’, ‘entrapped’ even beholden to big big and bigger buck$?
One way street, I would have thought. Who have we extradited from the USA? No one to my knowledge.
Blair and Straw were either incapable of negotiating a reasonable and even-handed treaty or they simply didn’t care. Neither explanation is acceptable.
And more recently, who reviewed it and recommended no change or re-balancing be carried out?
Lord Justice Scott Baker said there is no significant difference between the probable cause test and the reasonable suspicion test but he probably didn’t have his glasses on at the time.
Well to be fair on Baker LJ he probably didn’t have the benefit of these comments to guide him.
What would you say are the salient diferences between the two tests?
Reasonable suspicion justifies a stop and frisk, but not a full search. Probable cause is harsher and can include hearsay.
Just some of the manifold differences between the two standards admittedly too sharp for a mere Lord Justice to differentiate over.
Quick work there SD.
Unfortunately it’s the fact that Wikipedia is an American based site which will catch you out every time.
If you really want one, Jimmy, here is a study case
Jimmy comes staggering out of a bar and makes for a nearby parked car. An officer has a reasonable suspicion that Jimmy is drunk.
He approaches Jimmy and then smells alcohol. He has probable cause to believe that Jimmy is drunk and asks for an alcohol test.
Fortunately, Jimmy’s friend who has only been drinking pink grenadine with a twist of banana comes out and unlocks the passenger door for Jimmy in order to drive him home.
Not in Wikipedia – yet.
Іf yоu rеаlly wаnt оnе, Jіmmy, hеrе іs а study cаsе
Jіmmy cоmеs stаggеrіng оut оf а bаr аnd mаkеs fоr а nеаrby pаrkеd cаr. Аn оffіcеr hаs а rеаsоnаblе suspіcіоn thаt Jіmmy іs drunk.
Hе аpprоаchеs Jіmmy аnd thеn smеlls аlcоhоl. Hе hаs prоbаblе cаusе tо bеlіеvе thаt Jіmmy іs drunk аnd аsks fоr аn аlcоhоl tеst.
Fоrtunаtеly, Jіmmy’s frіеnd whо hаs оnly bееn drіnkіng pіnk grеnаdіnе wіth а twіst оf bаnаnа cоmеs оut аnd unlоcks thе pаssеngеr dооr fоr Jіmmy іn оrdеr tо drіvе hіm hоmе.
Nоt іn Wіkіpеdіа – yеt.
“Іf yоu rеаlly wаnt оnе, Jіmmy, hеrе іs а study cаsе”
Indeed.
We are mixing two different legal systems here but to demonstrate a point. OK, I may have embellished with the banana bit…
I see barrack room lawyers a plenty suggesting the treaty is unfair and lopsided. Can’t see it myself. I do agree with the forum bar though. The timing of it of course, right after the Ahmad case, is spectacularly dishonest even by the standards of this administration.
Now you are railling against the EU. If you are suggesting an equivalence between the Gary McKinnon and Babar Ahmad cases then you might want to consider getting your bumps felt.
I’m not suggesting any equivalence between the two cases other than the fact that May probably got them both wrong.
I said earlier There is a strong case that, even if [McKinnon] were 100% fit, he should not be extradited. That is not the same as to say there should be no extradition at all but simply that it should be subject to a much clearer and limited set of rules than exist currently and that it should be even handed.
The sides of this argument do not divide on conventional party lines. However we still are on opposite sides. So be it. I’d still have a beer with you. I might even pay.
SD sir you are the acceptable face of reaction.
My main concern with Ahmad is that if the US has jurisdiction due to server location than they pretty much are in charge of all cybercrime. His views may be far from sensible but whatever he may have actually done (bugger all I suspect) has been more than adequately punished by eight years banged up. As for McKinnon, I thought Massie’s Speccie piece put it rather well. There’s a phrase I’m unlikely to type again.
Dare I state it – but I have Scott Bakers card ‘marked’ and for good measure alongside him at the time was Mr Justice Nourse.
Wanchors in wigs.
Golly. We probably have a lot of common cause here. My concerns are that the USA, our long time allies, have sought to make their jurisdiction in all manner of fields apply worldwide which is potentially considerably worse than the imperialism that we were accused of.
The 9/11 attack prompted an understandable backlash but has also been used to slide in a number of completely unrelated controls upon the world’s business where the levers are based upon their soil.
The rent-seeking approach is also indicative of this problem. A good aspect of a real friend is to warn where one has gone too far. We are only just beginning to do this with them after too long a period of just being nodding dogs. If I ever was a Tory, that surely should be enough to get me expelled!
Does that mean he gets a free sandwich?
The US has inherited the role once played by the UK. I have a fondness for the Great Satan sadly rare on the left. I suspect we may disagree on the virtues of liberal intervention but any analysis suggesting the last government was an unwilling accomplice is wide of the mark. The nodding dog/poodle meme could not be further from the truth. I also think it is a great pity that we no longer have a government with any real influence there.
Oh! I am relieved, we do still have some differences then! But I am an admirer of the USA for its can do attitudes. What we had as Victorians.
I also agree that the government was not an unwilling accomplice but the reasons for this reside in Mr Blair’s head and not on any files which he may have left lying around! The meme can neither be proven nor denied properly, more the pity.
To have influence, the other side has to listen and engage in a substantive manner. I am not sure I see much of that going on in the UK, USA or Europe to be frank.
BTW Kept forgetting to say. I also agree with the forum bar.
One minor point – the Americans will not extradite their citizens anywhere full stop. So why should they have the right to demand the extradition of foreign nationals? Perhaps we should follow their lead and refuse to extradite any British subjects/citizens, especially to the Yanks. Sauce for the goose and all that…
Watch the rapid recovery …. he should be tried and imprisoned here – anything less is a disgrace – the guy is a criminal end of
McShane is as innocent as I am.
No, actually my wife Yvette and I are another couple of fiddlers altogether. (Just to avoid confusion; but we probably deserve to be locked up too, come to that.)
McKinnons eye are too close together so lets deport him just incase
Brother Abu? what a bomber it must be to have to face life in a supermax jail, at least the septics are making him some rubber hands, so at least he can now wank in safety
I would usually agree, what is good for the goose is good for the gander but 60 years for some living in his mom’s basement dwelling nerd looking for aliens is pathetic though, the Yanks need some sense slapped into them every now and again.
Did you actually read what he is accused of – he was not looking for aliens- he was deleting critical files maliciously on 30 plus occasions
He’s not Blofeld though is he… And he isn’t the greatest hacker genius the world has ever seen either. What he is in a nutshell is an idiot, enabled in his quest for idiocy by American idiots who thought critical files could be safeguarded by passwords such as ‘password’.
Don’t get me wrong, nearly everything I own has been bought by money paid to me by the US government. I am not some left wing anti American. I just believe that seventy years in a US prison was too harsh for what at the end of the day was the actions of a Muppet.
And the appalling vaz has got away again.
He hasn’t got away. We know exactly where he is.
Testing, testing.
Superinjunction?.
Try Ricen’pea
Rісе аnd реаs аrе ОK nоw. But аnу suggеstіоn thаt Раul Stаіnеs іs аn еx-bаnkruрt wіth а соnνісtіоn fоr drunkеn drіνіng wіll gеt уоu shоt dоwn іn flаmеs.
Іt’s νеrу sіllу. Еνеrу tіmе аnуоnе gеts mоddеd fоr іnnосеntlу wrіtіng thе hаrmlеss wоrds ‘drіnk’ оr ‘drіνе’, thеу аrе fоrсіblу rеmіndеd оf Guіdо’s раst. Јust lіkе Frеddіе Stаrr’s suреrіnјunсtіоn. Bеfоrе іt саmе оut, аll І knеw аbоut hіm wаs thаt hе wаs thе subјесt оf а sіllу hеаdlіnе іn thе Sun. But nоw І hаνе lооkеd uр аll hіs sаd hіstоrу аnd hаνе lеаrnt tо dеsріsе hіm.
tu quoque @93
The true secret of spiritual enlightenment, Lou, is to make sure never to think of a purple hippo– but you just did, didn’t you? Try again– don’t think of a purple hippo, whatever you do! Still happened? Don’t worry, Lou, it’ll come to you…sooner or later…probably much later…but in the meantime, just meditate upon this: What’s the name of the man playing second base.
I would suggest Satan that if you find his past unsatisfactory you fuck off elsewhere. It’s not like he came round your house and asked you to comment.
Normally no one would give a dog’s fart about Guido’s past. But the modding of words connected with it keeps reminding us of it, and thus has the opposite effect from the one he intended.
@Tachy. The Law of Unintended Conspiracy?
Just as PC really stands for Palpable Crassness.
Nee annette (shsss). I blame Fatson.
Bloody disgraceful putting one’s hand in the till.
Both hands more like
The BBC do not give a toss about Operation Weeting and continue to abuse the rules of ethical conduct.
Maybe it’s time for people to stand up and say they are not fit for purpose and refuse to pay the TV licence en masse.
We have been talking about non renewal and the majority will not be giving them money
The people of New Zealand and Portugal managed to rid themselves of this Marxist construct, why not us?
Sod the camera flashes
” If you don’t want to see a reminder of Savile, look away now “
Is there a statue of limitations on this then? Why don’t they just carry on where they left off like they no doubt would for us little people?
Nothing that’s cast in stone.
Looks like Cleggy is a Hunt !!
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/steerpike/2012/10/conor-burns-slams-cleggs-boundary-review-hissy-fit/
BBC appoint Dame Janet Smith to investigate The Culture and Practices at the BBC…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19970059
Will evidence be given under oath?
Tea, Ern?
Is that John Prescott in the middle of the still?.
And Melvin Bragg underneath.
I could write the report now.
‘No evidence of any systematic failings…. no evidence of any culture of predatory behaviour… isolated incident…. all persons who were in a position of authority at the time are now dead… lessons will be learned… suggested new procedures… responsible authority set up to allow whistleblowers to report anonymously… time to move on…draw a line in the sand…’
Would you like whitewash with that?
Is Dame Janet Smith’s proposed enquiry going to be held in camera, will evidence be under oath, will other media be able to report on the proceedings?
I love the smell of bullshit in the morning.
This looks like a job for me.
white sauce ?
Publication of Prince Charles letters blocked.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-charles/9612090/Attorney-General-blocks-release-of-Prince-Charles-letters-to-avoid-serious-damage-to-his-future-as-king.html
What a democracy! Either Buck House shuts the fuck up and desists from writing pompous garbage or they get the hell out and everyone else chooses something more in time with the 21st century.
Can’t have it both ways.
I write letters to my MP and various ministers when the ire takes me. Why shouldn’t he?
I have no interest in what he says to them I just hope he’s gives them a hard time.
Get over it!
Why should I get over it? He’s writing stuff to government departments, which they will obviously read and promptly wet themselves over. It may even change policy. Where’s the accountability in that?
Do you think this is acceptable?
Well the labour government took no notice of his letters ,they said so publicly.But then they took no notice of anybody else’s views either – witness gordonbrown calling a concerned sensible woman a bigot.
What makes you think this government is taking any more notice of him or us than labour did? I see no evidence of that.
The fact that he is the future King means his letters have a much greater chance of being opened, actually read and acted upon. Accountability and transparency is paramount.
Any letter you or I might write would carry far less weight.
The monarchy are meant to be totally detached from politics. I don’t care who he writes letters to. The fact that his letters carry more weight than any other and remain secret is unacceptable.
This isn’t a party political issue nell, the recipient of the letters is immaterial.
The monarchy can either assume their position and take a back seat or they can go and live in another country and try and ‘bring pressure to bear’ in that place.
is there a paedo protection racket in this country?
does it go as far as the monarchy.
No disrespect but charles is a tree hugger. I actually sometimes agree with his traditional views but disagree with his wimpy climate change nonsense.
Why he bothered to spend time writing to illliterate uncaring labour ministers is beyond me – but I don’t give a toss what he wrote. It sure as hell never influenced any policy in labour’s ‘spending us all into perfidy’ days’ and doubt such letters would have any effect on this present wet bunch either.
from paedo protection racket to protecting Prince Charles, from himself.
not very grown up.
Old Charlie boy stands to make literally a ‘killing’ on behalf of the Crown Estate over the hot air farms both onland and moreso offshore [Offshoring - as he and eddie boy has done in the past] He’s even stood up publicly in Brussels and promoted climate change [The al Gore Green 5hit myth] – need anyone else know any furter evidence of yet another climate change nutter cum moneygrubber?
It does appear to many that Charles is a tree hugger. He may be other things too. Who knows? I don’t because I haven’t seen his letters.
Why you carry on pushing the political slant is beyond me. All the ‘people’ in Westminster are as bad as each other.
Either the monarchy put up or shut up. Which is it nell?
He might have been doing it as a “cc/file” exercise for the historical record, nellnewman, to show that (in his mind anyway) maybe he should have been listened to. If one goes back to the days of the Hanover kings, one finds they were quite hands-on in terms of wanting to know what was going on behind the scenes, though George II was quite adamant that he followed Parliament and the whole point of having Ministers was for them to administrate and not for the King to interfere at every turn (which probably had more to do with his having to attend court in Hanover as well, and the fact that Walpole, the Chairman of the Cabinet and “Prime Minister” as he would be deemed in retrospect, made sure to smooth over old George with a generous allowance). In order to keep the young 22-year-old George III from sticking his nose in all the time, he had to agree to the Civil List. It still didn’t stop Mad George from trying to form Governments based on popularity of Ministers’ handling of foreign affairs, as Parliament was very factional in those days and elections could have been called at almost anytime through votes of no confidence, and Mad George may have acted out of a perceived need for continuity, for foreign consumption purposes. But in any event, though they may not have had much real power, the Hanoverians made it clear what they thought about what was going on and attempted to exert such influence as they DID have. Perhaps Chucklehead wants to bring back the days of the Georges in political statecraft as well as in architecture.
Chuck has created his own town outside of Dorchester – and he does appear to be away with the fairies.
@ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Constitutional Monarchy Analysis Service
Great history, possibly, but no cigar. Not even one of Savile’s
!Ay, carajo! Sir Jimmy’s cigars were “guinea stinkers”– he’d just take the tube, and then he’d put a cheapo in there, to make it LOOK like he was smoking a ten-quid cigar!
What’s all the fuss about?, so he likes hugging trees, we know that already.
As for the Report of Global warming ‘ending 16 years ago’ – hold on a minute!!!
There never was any such thing as global warming “in the first place” – it was a created ruse – specifically designed to ‘hijack’ the true agenda of the enviromentalist’s agenda – ‘cos money could be made from it [Taxes stoopid].
“I won’t be fooled again” – by Flat Earthist dogs, dupes & decievers.
You’re right – he’s barking.
What makes the Attorney General think he could ever get to be king ?
Dominic Grieve – with the Hillsborough inquest quashing may think he is ‘out of the woods’ – be he IS NOT according to those in the know Re Dr Kelly.
We’re from Essex! We’re nice really! We don’t want to murder or bomb anyone!
News channels are wetting themselves in agreement! Wonder who told them to do this!
All hail the c o m m u n i t y of piss.
Been a few good weeks for the Tories.
Olympics a success. (Boris)
Abu Hamza has been slung his hook. (Mrs May)
BBC in the shit. (BBC)
McKinnon problem solved. (Mrs May)
Inflation has fallen (Osborne)
Returning powers from Europe. (Mrs May)
Cuddly photos of larry. (Dave)
Ed’s speech made to look stupid (Dave)
Ed makes himself look stupid with Inquiry addiction. (Ed)
Ministers are prepared to leave Europe. (Gove)
Straight in out Scotch referendum (Dave)
Mrs May cheered in the house. (Mrs May)
Pilgrims progress halted (Pickles)
Huhne case delayed. (Huhne)
Clegg says he sorry for promising what was unrealistic. (Clegg)
Hunt leaves the luvvie ministry just in time. (luck)
I’ll have some of what you are on.
Don’t forget
Doing the right thing about Hillsborough
Doing the right thing about Prince Charles’ private letters.
And being insulted by Frau Merkel, the ultimate complement.
would Prince Charles like his letters to be private?
suppose we should have a statement.
The problem of “Prince Charles will be Prince Charles” is that we really do not know what it means. This will stick.
Prince Charles is a twat and will end the UK’s desperate clinging on to times past is better.
Agreed the left are having a shit time
The left are loving it. They are only happy when the other side are having a shit time by their creation. They know as well as the rest, that if they got all they wanted they would never see power again when it collapsed.
“Ministers are prepared to leave europe” …. where’s the substance – so far it the same old same old Spin, Bull5hit, Rhetoric & legal jargon.
Why change a winning formula? The morons lap it up.
Well we have the likes of mcshane and vaz ducking and diving over the distribution of public money into private bank accounts, the labour leadership desperately trying to subvert the police inquiry into the savile scandal by replacing it with a hutton style whitewash and labour completely silent over May’s common sense decision to face down the bullying yanks and refuse to let GaryMcKinnon be extradited to the States.
What exactly does labour stand for other than lining it’s own pockets ?!
Strange how this pair are oddly named; how many Indians are called Keith? How many Poles have a paddy sounding name like Denis McShane?
The fact that vaz is a portuguese/goan indian born in kenya (I think I read) or mcshane is of eastern european extraction is of less interest than their sticky fingers in the public till and dodgy practices for generating money for private accounts.
Vaz was born in Aden, but if there was any justice in the world he would be a Goaner.
Is a goaner a dyslexic Arsenal supporter?
Free ponies for everyone!
God is Great, we have a nice house, God is Great, we have free heating, God is Great, we have free food, God is Great, we have free council tax, God is Great, we have a man who cleans the street outside the free house we live to remove the taint the infidels leave, God is Great, our children have free education, God is Great, we have toilet paper and our free house does not stink of shit, God is Great, Tesco deliver our food free of charge, God is Great
We hate these western Kuffar, they smell of pork! Jihad is coming and God is Great, We hate this country and will destroy it, God is Great…
Not unlike the Communist manifesto then.
The Western Roman Empire was still fresh in the memory when Islam had its first go at Europe. nearly 1300 years later they are still trying.
Much cleverer this time round. Rather than mass an army, just get the troops in via Luton airport and then have them breed like rats with close family, all paid for with benefits.
Your troops end up a bit in-bred, but suicide bombers hardly need to be Voltaire.
Little bands of useful idiots cheering the whole process on to prove how ‘nice’ they are while 80% of the population gnash their teeth is also a big help.
Maybe when the media learns to behave itself then the plod can get on with catching dodgy MPs.
Dear plod, it has come to my attention that there is a gang of 647 of them all now living in a ‘safe’ house in the borough of Westminster, the 648′ th is believed to be holed up in Kirckaldy.
Unfortunately via the pyramid scheme or is it scam – the 648 have a legion more or so of further decievers swanning around calling themselves the national press – telling porky pies. Funny innit!!! that a national newspaper journalist can report a fraudster to a bank [RBS] and the bank then act upon the report and bring in the plod ‘n CpS – yet while a general member of the public reports fraud to a bank [like RBS] the bank ‘ignore it’. Should said same member of the public report it to the plod – plod under an MoU – take the info but as a rule bury the case. Where’s Jo Moore & Stephen Byers – seems every day is a good day to shaft any member of the public.
I am Shameless !!
You’re also barmy…..
Pity is is not Homeless!
One sick individual, now universally loathed by a nation for shafting the innocent. Seen here with Jimmy Savile.
http://bit.ly/PAfCIp
He fixed it for to be a multi, multi-millionaire !!
http://bit.ly/SHx1xW
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rcFE7HEgX3g
prestige made jimmy savile happy.
Would that have been their muffin tins, bun tins or box graters?
All Handycock’s ilk are: ‘happy’, ‘delighted’, ‘prepared’ when it suits them and ‘not prepared’ when it doesn’t. And no they do not have anal coded words whatsoever!!!
Hey, no pressure !
I learned all I know from that cow!
You really are the lowest example of vermin jimmy
Thank you
Tony likes nice people.
http://timesonline.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451586c69e2014e8b3fee6b970d-800wi
But more importantly our tone likes Rich! people. Especially when they can be persuaded to give him money!!
“Our Tone” speak for yourself Nell
I use the term ‘our tone’ ironically. He always thought of himself as the peoples prime minister! And he lacked the self awareness to understand that we didn’t view him and his dishonest antics that way at all!
“ironically”? You don’t know the meaning of the word!
I have never understood that nell, you would think £1 million would be enough for anybody but T and spouse C seem to be driven by pound signs, mind you C£tholics used to think that you can buy your way into heaven.
For Conservatives £1 million is never enough. It’s never enough if some other Hunt has a “better” house or car. Cons are money grabbing Hunts.
I do wonder why so much is made of their apparent “success” and aspiration. All they seem to aspire to is more money and less class.
Reblogged this on Rotherham Politics.
Will be following your blog, somewhat local
Thanks for your interest. We do what it says on the tin, sorry if we are a bit local, but we think it’s best for us.
A particular problem of the Left is that they believe their personal goodness is entangled with their opinions. Therefore, it is hard for them to have friendships with — or even like — conservative people. It’s not just that they disagree with them; it’s that they feel superior to them and they feel these people are morally bad. I enjoy the company of the people I disagree with, probably rather more than the people I agree with, but I don’t think people are bad because I disagree with them. I just think they’re wrong. Peter Hitchens
One could say much the same of the blue rinse brigade and their hangers on.
pie
Now Uncle Eric is rampaging around the office shouting ‘where?’.
Crikey! You must be really old. The blue rinse brigade were on their way out when I was young!
I think that Hitchens is generally right in this but, as always, their are exceptions. One I encountered was Gwyneth Dunwoody who seemed to delight in all people, whether of her political persuasion or not.
They may have been on the way out for a long time but, as with many dementia sufferers, they find it difficult to locate the exit. Here in Guildford the Mayor, one Jennifer Jordan, is a living (if barely sentient) representative of the blue rinsers.
You may not have been posting here (as father or son!) for long enough to remember a standing joke about Guildford relating to a poster called “Thick as Thieves” who by all accounts worked as a chemist’s assistant.
I advise you to move out to somewhere nicer in case the air is contagious there. Haslemere and Midhurst are both very pleasant.
I agree entirely with your recommendation of Haslemere (apart from it having the most unpleasant cricket team in Surrey). Regrettably the wife likes the house and the quick rail service to London.
If she is a cricket aficionada then Hartley Wintney, just across the border, is home of the oldest cricket club in Hampshire and possibly the country.
It is delightfully pretty too and has that all important mainline connection nearby at Hook. You will find it hard to find a house which stays on the market for more than a week, even in this climate, though.
The Engineering Employers Federation (EEF) bunch of tossers if you ask me – have offices in Hook Hampshire. Still what would I know about their officers at Hook?
A particular problem of the Left is that they .. feel superior”
How does that mix with their touchy-feely egalitarianism? I honestly cannot imagine anyone who is “on the Left” feeling “superior” to anyone. It involves a leap of the imagination that is beyond mortal beings. Especially when we consider that the Left are essentially uneducated cretins in low-paid non-jobs and – vitally – lack even the slightest inclination to better themselves. They delight in, celebrate, wallow in, take pride in their own pitiful uneducated worthlessness.
“I enjoy the company of the people I disagree with”
I’d enjoy it a whole heap more if I had a machine-gun.
A particular problem of the Left is that they .. feel superior”
How does that mix with their touchy-feely egalitarianism? I honestly cannot imagine anyone who is “on the Left” feeling “superior” to anyone. It involves a leap of the imagination that is beyond mortal beings. Especially when we consider that the Left are essentially uneducated cretins in low-paid non-jobs and – vitally – lack even the slightest inclination to better themselves. They delight in, celebrate, wallow in, take pride in their own pitiful worthlessness.
“I enjoy the company of the people I disagree with”
I’d enjoy it a whole heap more if I had a machine-gun.
“I honestly cannot imagine ”
And that’s what makes you a rightie.
It’s no accident that the Latin for the left of anything is sinister.
Imagine how impoverished the world would have been without Marx, Stalin, National Socialist Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot and Bobby Mugabe et al…….lol!
So Jimmy is saying that the left do feel superior.
Quelle masturbatrise.
You’re a spooky little boy jimmy
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fola80rQop4?feature=player_embedded&w=640&h=360%5D
bugger
Never sensible to underestimate your opponents. Presumably (for ex) you would class Libs and Labs as lefties – and yet noone seems to dispute that Julian Huppert (Lib MP Cambridge) is the brightest mind in parliament. Know your enemy is a much better rule than despise your enemy.
Julian Huppert eh? Lol, that is soooo fucking funny!!
As I said, you don’t have to like him. Just look at his record. He does rather stand out (with his scientific training)as one of the very few MPs who can act as a teller without taking his socks off to count on his toes.
and yet noone seems to dispute that Julian Huppert (Lib MP Cambridge) is the brightest mind in parliament.
We were constantly told that the Maximum Imbecile had an IQ of 180 and was the smartest man in the UK if not the entire planet.
Yet he was revealed as nothing more than an incompetent, economy-destroying sociopath.
Yes but then you apparently consider your own opinions worth sharing so perhaps you’re not the best judge.
Hahahahaha….Jimmy’s just been hoist by his own retard.
The MI would have been unable to discern the decimal point lurking between the digits.
Or, in your case, before
Pathetic.
jgm2; Brown has a soft Ph.D in history. Huppert is rather more serious with his scientific training and fellowship of Clare College. Comparing Brown and Huppert is a bit like comparing Michael Wood with Roger Penrose.
I’m not disputing ANYTHING– I’m trying to stay “hush-hush,” Mr Tris Jnr!
That’s why the great genociders are all left wing. Socialism is a construction of hatred.
So how has the BBC reported the news today?
1. Inflation. Down again. Good news no? Not at the BBC where they just talked about how poor off pensioners would be (remember Gordon Brown’s 75p BBC?). Funny that under Brown any fall in inflation was treated like another world record in tractor production by the BBC.
2. Gary McKinnon not being sent to the USA. Good news? He’s not exactly Alky Ada now is he? But no the BBC (and C4) wheel out the usual Moozie mongs to protest. Forgetting the Muzzies sent to the USA are wanted for trying to murder people or inciting people to murder, not looking for aliens.
3. Hillsborough. Looks like the scousers will get what they want from a Tory government, yet the only c u n t s the BBC seem to interview are bum boy Burnham. Why isn’t the BBC having a go at Jack Straw?
4. Savile..well the less said the better in the eyes of the BBC.
The problem with your point 2 is not Hamza but Babar Ahmad who received medical reports very similar to those of McKinnon, including the Aspergers diagnosis. Whatever you think of the decisions on McKinnon and Ahmad it is a fundamental requirement of the law that all are equal, and this smells of one rule for some and another rule for others. When we let politicians invent the rules we all risk our future.
When we let politicians invent the rules we all risk our future.
Unfortunately it is politicians jobs to invent rules. That’s why I seriously think we should pay MPs a bonus to keep them away from parliament. The Maximum Imbecile, with his two afternoons a year, is causing far less damage than he was when he was idioting about the place 24/7.
I should have said ‘individual politicians’. May’s job is to apply the law equally to all. She has no legal authority to vary the law for different individuals.
A better solution would be to ‘hang them all for treason’ – that’d save the public billions and billions. Result.
I agree – but we are talking about the extradition cases, not our preferences for dealing with Osborne, Mitchell, May et al.
Didn’t 90% of all of the shit happen under labour’s watch. Why doesn’t Cameron just rip into Millionaireband? At PMQ’s Cameron needs to speak more slowly, and give Miliionaireband both barrels. FFS Cameron make him have it!
Quite right, i really think the PM needs a Malcolm Tucker at his side, at the moment they are playing far too nice !
Cameron could rip the socialist war-mongers and torturers to shreds if he had a pair of bollox.
I need to learn the protocol for purchasing a beefburger
Sign a consultancy contract with McDonalds and have free meals written into the deal.
Think I’ll stick with my Pillaging Freeloading Iniquity.
Roll up Roll up folks Don’t forget @ high noon tomorrow Wed 17 Oct
2012……. lets all tune & watch that Effing to*ff Mitchell being knocked
off his high elevated chair (by birthright what else) next to CMD
during PMQ’s ………that popular weekly series of hot air…& fa*rts
Its being trailed by ZanuLieLabor as something not to be missed…….
All Cameron needs to keep saying is BIGOT.
I’m not much interested in his birthright or his use of the pleb word really. More importantly was his disgraceful loss of control , his use of foul language, his shouting obscenities at police all because he was asked to get off his bike.
This is not a man we want in any governmental position of note.
I’m not interested in labour’s rubbish grandstanding, headline grabbing, attempt to ‘fine him £1000′ for his misdemeanors. He should have the decency to resign before he does any more damage to government generally.
I admire the sentiments, but given that Lord Carrington was the last to resign on any sort of principle (if you exclude Clare Short who delayed her resignation so long it doesn’t count) I think the chances of Mitchell doing the decent thing are small.
Robin Cook?
He was a scotsman!
Nell, your first paragraph sounds like most UK city centres on a Friday and Saturday night. The majority of those people are not booked by the police, and I would guess use far worse language.
Mitchell has apologised, the policemen in question have accepted that apology. The only people keeping this story going are labour and the police federation. And we all know why.
FFS, why moderation?
Everything in moderation – Oscar Wilde.
Lol, I wished I had said that.
Pull yourself together.
While we are apart.
The damage should have been contained during the 1st 48 hours BUT all
effing Mitchell achieved was to throw lots of petrol on the smouldering
embers at every opportunity, making certain it continued to flare up.
Plus CMD showed no clear decisive leadership he dithered yet
again, for some unknown reasons, he seems unable to cut to the chase,
which people will not forget.
This should NOT mean Ed Millie*tu*rd the min*or has the opportunity
to get his dirty hands anywhere near the levers of power. Begs the question
why have’nt all the previous shambles Government’s Front Bench not been
barred from being MP’s BUT brought to account before the high court ??
You are absolutely right – davidcameron dithered when he should have decisively sacked him.
Now cameron is in a hole – to sack him now looks like an afterthought at best. If mitchell had any sort of honour about him he would resign but like others before him – vaz etc they just keep hanging on by their fingernails counting their monthly incomes and expenses into their bank accounts.
No honour left in politics! None!!
You’d have forgotten about Mitchell in 2 weeks. Now Vaz is a completely different kettle of rotten fish grease.
True! Absolutely true!
Throwing petrol! – isn’t that what FMaude the CP Fraud is all about? No – I don’t want that Gerrycanmandering twat given any more power.
With all due respect why should he resign, he has apologised (several times) this wouldnt still being commented on if it wasnt for mischief making by labour and the police federation. I dont think anybody else in the country (exept possibly the Archbishop of canterbury) would be forced to resign for losing his temper.Im also concerned as to how the case reached the media in the first place.
“US foreign policy is akin to Government-sponsored terrorism these days … It was not a mistake that there was a huge security stand down on September 11 last year … I am SOLO. I will continue to disrupt at the highest levels … “
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/alex-massie/2012/10/gary-mckinnon-should-have-been-extradited/
This site is an American free zone – or was until you turned up.
Last time I looked the Spectator was too.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/alex-massie/2012/10/gary-mckinnon-should-have-been-extradited/
You have to be kidding. The Speccie has had its tongue rammed up the rear end of Washington for even longer than Blair.
No not kidding at all.
This man has admitted attacking the USA.
A miscarriage of justice occurred today for the sake of political expediency.
It is very unwise to let politicians interfere with the law, their job is to make and ammend the law, nothing more and nothing less. What they should do however is free us from European law.
Oh do give it a rest! We’re all fed up with the american bullying programme.
May has done the right thing in calling time on this bliar yankee back patting – we’ll give you everything for nothing in return – package.
Nell she has not called time. All she has done is use Yuman rites to get a guilty man off this time and will ammend the law so that yuman rites can not be used the next time.
But what she has really done is cave in to pressure from Paul Dacre.
Just decided what the inscription on my gravestone will be: my comment is awaiting moderation.
Mine will be ‘Now I am dead, can I get on the A list?’
Beneath this sod lies another.
One slipped under the radar.
‘I’ll be back’.
Back in Black.
My grave’s inscription: “Please dance here, you socialist scum.”
And 3″ below the surface.. a landmine. One of those really nasty ones that doesn’t kill you, it just rips off your legs and genitalia.
Large slab of Grainte.
” In death as in life, well and truely stoned “
truly might be better
I’m just as peaced as you.
It’s one, no law for us, and another for you plebs!! Andrew knows all about it!! He’s above reproach and a jolly decent fellow!!
Now I’ll believe anything; Mitchell has friends?!?!
how many 2p pieces should you be able to fit into your foreskin?
I have enough for 30p of Cola Cubes
You’re not asking ME, are you? But I’ll hazard a guess on the “maths” part of it: fifteen, give or take a “million” or so?
Milli calls for inquiry as to why the ground in Poland was not covered for tonights world cup match. Judge to be named before pmq 1200 17/10/2012
Millionaireband is wetter than that pitch.
A full, independent inquiry, pleathe.
Some labour hacks are calling for an Inquiry into militwit’s penchant for calling a multitude of worthless Inquiries!!
I wouldn’t piss down MacShane’s throat if his lungs were on fire. Come to think of it I would.
I see Jimmy Savile’s old pal Prince Charles has had several of his letters blocked from publication:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19959233
Attorney General Dominic Grieve blocked the release of private letters the Prince of Wales sent to seven government departments. A court ruled that the correspondence should be published. But Grieve said it was an exceptional case where the letters formed part of the prince’s “preparations for kingship”. Publishing the views would “seriously undermine” his ability to fulfil his duties as King.’
No. The real reason for its non-publication is that it would reveal what many of us already know: an unelected, massively-state-funded man trying to impose his will upon an elected government and it’s decision-making (eg on so-called climate change).
It would at a stroke demolish the breathtaking charade that the monarchy is ‘purely ceremonial and symbolic’.
What an absolute loads of codswallop.
I wish I thought Charles had some influence on the last uncaring illiterate labour government or the present wet coalition but I doubt that very much.
If he thinks his private letters help to influence the path of government then I’m happy for him to keep trying. More power to his elbow as they say. Sadly I think he’s banging his head against a wall!
hehe, nell said codswallop.
The case arose from a Freedom of Information request submitted by Guardian journalist Rob Evans, who wanted to see letters between Prince Charles and:
the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills,
the Department of Health,
the Department for Children, Schools and Families (now the Department for Education),
the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,
the Department for Culture, Media and Sport,
the Northern Ireland Office
the Cabinet Office.
The ruling is an affront to democracy, and similar to his old chum Savile and his fellow kiddy fiddlers in high places, is all about protecting elites from scrutiny. If jug ears has got fuck all to hide then allow people access to the letters. These people and their ilk truly believe their blue blood makes them superior beings and unanswerable to anyone
The sooner we are a republic the better.
No the guardian is an affront to democracy as is the beeb and it’s attempt to cover up the savile controversy.
And let’s not forget militwit’s attempt today to undermine the police investigation by replacing it with a hutton whitewash. One wonders what it is he’s trying to cover up!
If Prince Charles writes letters to try and influence the path of sensible government – well good luck to him – just unfortunate that in labour’s day he was writing to uncaring illiterate individuals like aintbustingut who was more interested in his £350k expenses than he was his job!
No Nell, you thick bint, it’s not limited to Guardian sodomites, but those fucking idle, poncing, fucking layabout playboy ski-ing Royals, especially money-stuffed Charles whingeing all day long about how we’re all overpopulated, preaching like that fucking Druid Archbishop of Canterbury on bad acid.
If he is writing letters trying to influence government policy in any way, we fucking well want to see it.
Why dont the guardian call for the BBC to release their papers on the savile situation.That would be more sensible.
path of sensible government
How do we that Prince Charles influence is sensible?
Good news folks, Welshwiz will be publishing full details of his bank accounts on here tomorrow when he gets the photocopies done.
Errm the Monarchy is neither ceremonial or symbollic. The Guardianistas may want it that way but that is not the case.
Does HM Government or HM forces mean anything to you?
If you don’t like it then vote Nick Clegg he has promised to change all that but until he does (and he won’t) put up and shut up.
If you want to live in a country like Belgium, then go live in Belgium.
It’s the Crown versus YOU. The Crown cannot be taken to court.
Judges swear an oath to serve HER, and refuse any request to make her appear in court. Any arguments that question her authority to bring anyone to court in her name, is dismissed without explanation.
Police officers, the military, politicians and lawyers, all swear an oath to serve HER.
The prime minister can be brought before an inquiry, but Regina never is.
This to me is so obvious it’s insane. It’s been in plain sight all along, and what prevents people from seeing it, besidesr heads up backsides is the propaganda between their ears, that says it’s all nice tradition bringing in lots of revenue and that she “has no real power”.
Bollocks!
Really? How wrong you are. Even the Queen is not beyond the law as Charles I found out!
Folks like bliar and vaz however really have , thus far, put themselves beyond the law- although their time will come!
Essentially people like blair [all PM's] – are brendas ‘representatives’ – so she is guilty for not intervening on numerous occasions for decades – but does she really give a 5hit?
Agreed BW. She lost my support when she signed the various EU orders casually giving away our sovereignty instead of just tearing them up. I wonder if anyone has explained to her just how such acts have affected her personal standing in all this. No doubt Mr Barosso would be able to provide an appropriate memo.
lembit still at HoC . Well that says everything there is to say about past and present government!!
Shouldn’t that read – fucking useless EX MP ?? Only asking….
Hot blond(e) was Boris.
Lembit is such a dopey wanker.
Totty listen:
UK inflation rate slows to 2.2% in September, ONS says
That’s the report on the BBC. They just could not bring themselves to say down or fallen. Guaranteed if it increases the headline will be jumps or surges,
Bastards
Thank Fuck for that. September was picked as the month to decide pension and dole payouts as traditionally it is the month with the lowest inflation of the year.
Something went badly wrong last year as September came in as the highest of the year and all I could do was brag about what a generous rise I had given to pensioners and welfare scroungers.
This year the ONS have got it right and the price increases from our green energy policies won’t kick in until November. Then there is the increase in grain prices due to global cooling and land taken up with Bio fuel crops rather than wheat.
The sad thing is that the dopey fuckers think that nobody notices and that they’re being terribly clever. Wankers.
The fuckers in Westminster will know soon enough when their heads are detached from their bodies.
Fuck the Celebrity Members of Parliament and the Media. They have SO much to be sorry for.
Nerd Boy Gary will get the spooks put into him by NSA hackers.
Infact if I was him I wouldn’t touch a computer for the next three or four years because they will be reading everything.
If the s.p.a.z. thinks he has got away free and can give it the big one online he will have another thing coming.
Once your on those boys list you better be careful because one day you don’t know what will befall you if you continue to p**s them off like when gigs of child p**n suddenly turn up on his hardrive or something……
#Last try to beat the modbot.
I’m just off to dip my knackers in a bowl of Tizer.
I think itht dithgratheful that English people have travelled all the way to Walsall only to see their soccer game called of tonight, all because the Walsall people forgot to close the roof of the soccer pitch there.
I demand an urgent statement from the Secretary of State for Culture Media and sport on this outrage, that she explains her failure to act and calls an independent inquiry without delay.
10 o’clock news. He said Gary McKinnon should have been extradited. Bastard.
Who said?.
Well he should have been. He even admitted his guilt. If he had taken his punnishment like a man he would be a free citizen now.
Why do the guilty try to avoid justice so much, such as Huhne, Moran, Mckinnon, Hamza et al?
I bet your class of person enjoys watching gladiatorial sports. You, sir, should wank off to your own boarding school memories and leave the big boys to their own vices.
Americans always seem to have a problem when confronted with the truth.
In my expereince, there are very few people who are willing to really listen to the truth. This is not just an American problem.
What a load of news today:-
Sa-vile goes on and on.
Certain beeboids shitting themselves.
Parliamentary committee to question the BBC Dg,and Bradshaw on the commitee?.
The Ranzy question.
Ed Millicrap finally on the bandwaggon as is Harriden.
To cap it all that idiot Cablewire on about warfare in the EUSSR.
The best I heard about today was Daniel Hannan in his assessment as to what it would mean if we left this communist/left wing bunch load of free loaders/economic chancers.
This once great country is at a crossroads.
DO WE AGREE TO BEING CONTROLLED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT OF THIS COUNTRY OR DO WE NOT?.
Remember folks we fought wars to control our destiny,are we going to give away these freedoms that millions died for for the sake of EUSSR tossers.
There must be something mighty big going down.
I was just asking of you earlier on Jo – but some posts have just disappeared into the ether.
I’m just mad about Saffron
Recommendations for modern policing:
1) Stop fucking about on twitter like a bunch of ponces
if someone is called a name by someone else, they should just fucking deal
with it
2) Cut down on the paper work and stick to real policing
3) Stop killing peaceful protestors and passing Brazilians
4) Don’t be a bent cop – no one likes bent cops
Lol, drinking, smoking and having a toot on a spliff, is one one thing but condoning the attempted assassination of a 14 year old girl on a school bus for wanting to get herself an education is another. How much longer are we supposed to put up with these free loaders in our country?, (self moderated my language).
One was a bright but awkard western kid who accessed a computer in a different country that she shouldn’t have, the other is a nutjob terrorist wanted in connection with the bombings of the United States embassy in East Africa in 1998.
Fuckwit mozzed-up question.
Anjem Choudhury is a nutter. Nothing wriong with that if course. Britain has a long tradition of tolerating its village idiots. I am converned though that some of his followers take him seriously.
McKinnon doesn’t incite hate, advocate murder, and isn’t a racist. Choudary and Abdul are just egotistical piles of hypocritical shit.
South Yorkshire Police ‘must get a grip’ on child abuse
Chief Constable David Crompton and Det Ch Insp Philip Etheridge faced questions from Keith Vaz
South Yorkshire’s chief constable and one of his top officers have been told to “get a grip” on child sex offending in Rotherham. David Crompton and Det Ch Insp Philip Etheridge were criticised by the Home Affairs Select Committee.
It comes after The Times said confidential police reports referred to widespread abuse of girls by Asian men. The session in Westminster heard of three unconvicted members of one family being linked to the abuse of 61 girls. The committee members also heard evidence of a 22-year-old man going unpunished after being found in a car with a 12-year-old girl, a bottle of vodka and indecent images of her on his mobile phone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-19966721
I wonder why the 22 year old wasn’t given a breathalyser or done for drunk driving?
According to the US embassy in London, this is the 11th time the UK has refused an extradition request from the US since the current treaty was signed in 2003, whereas Washington has never refused a request from London during that time. FT
I know I don’t see much press nowadays (thank goodness) but I don’t recall any requests for American citizens to be extradited to the UK. Do you?
“government figures show that between 2004-11, 112 extradition requests were made by the US to Britain. Of those, 73 defendants were extradited while seven cases were discharged, with the remainder still unresolved.
On the other hand, Britain made extradition requests to the US for 49 suspects over the same period and 38 have so far been extradited with none discharged.”
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/americas/claims-uk-us-extradition-pact-lopsided-but-some-legal-experts-disagree
Not the complete story though!
How many of that 49 (and 38) were American citizens? None, I would bet. The Yanks are happy to give us back our own rubbish (no skin off their nose) but they will not extradite their own citizens.
Extradition shall not be refused based on the nationality of the person sought
http://www.fco.gov.uk/resources/en/pdf/pdf18/fco_cm7146_usaextraditiontreaty
Yes. I know. But what is the answer to my question?
See above. U R right SG, Septics will NOT extradite their own.
Blair, but fortunately for us he seems to got himself extradited to the U.S by proxy.
I couldn’t give a toss. If the USA want to charge people I suggest they do so on their own fucking territory.
If they can’t: tough shit.
We willingly signed a badly constructed and implemented treaty. Whet you are really saying is that our leaders were c’unts.
Night night – over to the insomniacs now.
Sleep well. You will find some answers spread about on the page when you wake up.
Most people I know are chuffed to bits at Gary Mckinnon judgement by Theresa May .
Well done NN for some proper reporting on lidl Britian , some accurate prices and incomes in there as well , well done Gordon ,Tony and Ed see how your running out of money wheeze has really messed up so many lives, expensed student trendy politicians have finally managed to send so many lives down the shitter.
Osbourne looks to be sinking this is 4th corp that has been found to avoiding a deficet helpful regieme of tax , Freya is clearly overpaid mail order Ruskie cat as a bit of distraction dressing from issues . Although I can see why he wants to tax food , I would have thought tonights little lidl expose would have informed the problem , just slap a flat rate on all takeaway food wether eat in or take out , leave the bakers out of it . Basically I think it should be in redefining the sort of establishment , I mean you can buy pasties and sandwiches at supermarkets . Generally I am against taxing food , rather you taxed mobile and broadband , noting Osbourne awarded a contract to a chinese compnay who have since had masts and infrastructure questions as security risks …. still eh its only millions of peoples perosnal data as we drift slowly but surely to comfy cattle farming eutopia , where you dont ask questions anymore ……
McKinnon was diagnosed with Asperger’s, a form of autism, in 2007, after an expert on the condition watched him in a television interview and contacted the hacker’s lawyer
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iDQFdP44YKJSYGn9afxV0ZIT-xtA?docId=CNG.b71347bc6dd65c2dbc3bb46ff281235b.131
For all you Muslims out there
Come on Obama Beach. Sarah and I are rooting for you.
This is amazing. Obama is loosing this debate.
Rantzen stepping down from Childline according to print edition of DM.
Wash yer fingers, love
Don’t worry I’ll be popping up again on some other bogus charity or NGO.
Does Dave know the price of anything ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9612783/David-Cameron-jobless-entrepreneurs-to-get-can-do-cash.html
Speech is still free – but I’m working on that.
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1992-01-12/
Toady I wish to be known as
Privileged Upper-class Twat who’s never done a Real Days’ Work in his life.
Thank you.
For Parliament the price of treachery
Is laughable – they get away scot-free
And when, at last, they’ve destroyed the nation
Their escape route is clear – emigration
Of course he does. He has the price of Petrus ’61 from every top auction in the last 10 years.
I knew Harriet Harman’s thick but even this is pretty fucking retarded by her standards. A moment ago on R4′s Today, talking about an inquiry into the bbc, she said “Jimmy Savile is dead, and therefore, he can’t stand trial”. Really, dear? Was the use of a conjunction in “therefore” necessary? Or, indeed, the entire second part of your sentence? Or do you think people are as thick as you and need things spelt out for them?
Yes
I’m so bad at masturbating, that I have to fake my own orgasms
I read in the Telegraph that the government are giving £2000 to “jobless entrepreneurs”
This is wrong on so many levels
Nice to see one of the Dimblebores come out in support of Entwistle. Nothing to see so move along. Funny the BBC didn’t think the same about phone hacking