October 15th, 2012

Referendum Agreement Text

Via PA.

62 Comments

  1. 1
    Nullbymouth says:

    No mention of battered Mars bars !!

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    • 3
      Anonymous says:

      “Do you agree that whichever way the vote goes the SNP are f*cked, because a) if it’s ‘Yes’ the country will be bankrupt in 10 years; or, b) if it’s ‘No’, there isn’t any point in the SNP?”

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    • 7
      Cameron the Scotch bum boy. says:

      How come the Scotch get a referendum on independence from the English but the English don’t get a referendum on independence from the continent of Europe?

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      • 12
        misterneddy says:

        The English do not even get a say in a referendum of the break up of the union in which they are the massively dominant partner.

        It proves that the establishment are only giving this as a sop to nationalists North of the border, so that the independence question can be voted on, lost and never spoken of again for generations to come.

        If the Scottish Nationalist leadership REALLY wanted independence, then they would insist that the English be allowed to vote in the referendum too. We would vote overwhelmingly to tell the Scots to have their independence. It would save us a fortune.

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        • 22
          Aunty Matter says:

          Well said, all Salmond wants is devo max or as I call it getting the English to hand over even more money

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          • misterneddy says:

            Correct.

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          • Snaplegs says:

            sadly that’s true

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          • jgm2 says:

            No. I think Alex is serious. He is dri*ven by hatred of the English. He really does want nothing to do with England.

            I don’t know who said what to upset him. Maybe some English boy shagged his girlfriend at university. Maybe somebody took the piss out of his ‘funny’ accent when he went to London on a school trip. Who knows. But he definitely wants nothing to do with England.

            He’s quite happy to rubber-stamp whatever madness gets generated in Brussels though.

            It’s not about independence in the normal sense of the word. It really is purely about getting away from England.

            Which is fine. I wish they’d just admit it.

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          • Frankly, I don’t care what Ponzi Salmonds’ reasons are – I hope he gets what he wants – all for the cost of 40+ Labour MP’s, who can no longer be counted in England. No more Scotland around our necks (for a few years until the whole cost of paddling said canoe becomes overwhelming and we bail them out again) AND – no more LieBore Governments in the UK – they would come in fourth behind the Limp Dumbs and UKRAP.

            And they’ll still be flocking “DAHN SARF” to join the forces – but this time, not being able to vote here, but still having to pay their taxes to England!!

            Bliss.

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          • jgm2 says:

            The Scots no longer flock Dahn Sarf to fill the forces. Thanks to ‘rationalisation’ England’s regiments are largely fully staffed by English cannon fodder.

            It is in Fucking Scotland, where army numbers, as a sop to the Scots and to maintain employment, have not been nearly as hard cut back who are struggling to fill their quotas and who are filled with Fijians and other such-like ‘Scots’.

            Another expense for them to take on in future.

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        • 62
          Pundit too too says:

          Yes I agree but Alex Salmond has a dream (not a dram or maybe several) – to be the first President of an Independent Scotland.
          On such dreams are tragedies built.

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      • 32
        Popeye says:

        Surely a Union is at the very least Bi-lateral, not Uni-lateral.
        I want a vote on the breakup of my country.

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        • 51
          Old Chestnut says:

          If the English want a vote in a referendum of the UK.
          1. Elect a party that will offer one.
          2. Vote on said referendum.

          A referendum on europe has been available for years with UKIP.
          Old England goes to the polls and continually vote red or blue then spend the next 4 years whinging.
          All the English want to do is moan and groan about everything and anything under the sun after which they come to the conclusion that its always somebody else’ fault.

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    • 44
      The BBC says:

      That’s us done for then.

      The ENIWBC it is.

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    • 49
      ÁC1 says:

      Can those of us outside the parasite country, contribute to funding Scotchlands independence?

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  2. 2
    Dave "Butch" Cameron says:

    Just watched an old “pro celebrity golf” episode featuring Jimmy Saville, Jonathan King, Gary Glitter and Michael Jackson.

    When I switched over it was three up with one still to play.

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  3. 4
    When I was a boy the poor were skinny says:

    Credit to Rich and Marks.

    The president of the Royal British Legion, Lt Gen Sir John Kiszely, has resigned over claims he was involved in defence contract lobbying.

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  4. 5
    Moussa Koussa says:

    A very big yawn !!!!!!

    …I see Daves mates at The Murdoch Mong Times tipped him off about the Sandhurst Eton Mongos lobbygate scandal… Dave MADE sure he didnt meet the British Legion during his meltdown conference…for obvious reasons !!!!!

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    • 9
      JH says:

      Gosh, judging by the number of exclamation marks what you had to say was very, very important.

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    • 13
      Wotta Tossa says:

      I fell asleep half way through reading that post.

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    • 13
      Apostrophe Warden. says:

      It’s Dave’s mates.

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    • 21
      Moussa Koussas pet Chancre says:

      YAWN

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    • 33
      jgm2 says:

      That ‘Yawn’ is the sound of Scotland fucking off and with it any chance of Labour ever fucking up the UK economy again.

      They’ll regain power in Fucking Scotland before too long though by promising to squander Alex’s ‘Oil Fund’ on more free stuff.

      But it’ll be too late for them by then. A downward spiral of ever greater unfunded squandering as each side tries to outspend and out-promise the other. Plus the benefit tourists from the north of England/whole of Europe who’ll be up there for their ‘free’ this and ‘free’ that and endless public sector job ‘creation’.

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  5. 6
    JH says:

    How come the English don’t get to vote?

    Really?

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  6. 8
    A very hard pressed Tax Payer says:

    …………”The Rt.Ho*n”………. says it all………. lol lol lol

    what the law relating to dece*ption & mis-rep*resenta*tion

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  7. 10
    jgm2 says:

    Perhaps it’s obvious to others but who is deciding on the wording, date, franchise, rules of campaign financing etc etc?

    Is it the UK parliament or Salmond?

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    • 59
      Eeyore says:

      Neither: it seems to be the Heir to Blair, continuing his idol’s policy of making it up as he goes along, with no thought for consequences. His lobby-fodder will, as ever, do as they’re told, with the result that I, as a subject of HM and a citizen of the UK, will have no say in the dismantling of my country.

      I went to a UKIP meeting recently. More sense talked in 60 minutes than I’ve heard from politicos in the last 20 years. (I exempt Daniel Hannan, who ought to be the next PM.)

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  8. 11
    Cut taxes at a stroke, cut off Salmonland says:

    The best way to get an independent Jockland would be to let the English take part.

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  9. 16
    Yes to The UK , No to the EUSSR and the Holy Roman Empire says:

    I fully expect this blog to campaign for Scottish independence by all means possible including incitement and its usual bigotry. It should be remembered that Guido has stated he works for Rome and they hate the UK.

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    • 27
      misterneddy says:

      To be fair, there is a fair bit of history between Rome and the UK. Lot’s of reasons for distrust.

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  10. 18
    The Libor party says:

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      jgm2 says:

      It certainly looks like when Brown signed their ‘Claim of Right’ he took it seriously. How else to explain 1000 pound extra government spending per person in Fucking Scotland?

      He even, although he was working tirelessly in London fucking up the UK economy, found the time to have his children born in Fucking Scotland.

      Gordon Brown is/was an enemy agent.

      At least Alex Salmond admits he hates the English.

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  11. 20
    athelstan says:

    ever since Clegg’s hissy fit about the boundary commission this has been on the cards.

    The only way to even the chances of a Tory majority in Westminster is to dump the Clydeside Commies.

    This is the coup de grace for Labour since it cannot command a majority in England or Scotland. It will likely merge with the LibDems. Their policies are mutually indistinguishable in any case.

    At least we in the EU finally have our way and can start to tackle “England” on its own. 500 years of foreign policy finally crowned with success.

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  12. 25
    Loungelizard says:

    Neither of the signatories are honorable or from the right.

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  13. 31
    Anonymous says:

    Be glad to be rid of Scottish parasites. They can pay their own social security bills. Wasters.

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  14. 34
    Anonymous says:

    This is wonderful stuff… and I truly hope for an independent “Jockland”. However, does the rest of the European State of UK not have a say. After all, I’m led to believe, there’s just as many “Jockanese” in England!

    Will the exiled Jocks all be required to go back and apply for visa’s to work in the EU.
    Will the exiled Jocks be allowed to return “home” to vote!

    I’m sure Mr Salmond will attempt to turf the EU expats out, to make way for all the triumphant returning Jocks.. people like the massive supporter of independence and tax exile Connery…. Who can give up their lifestyle in such hell holes like the Cayman Is. And return to the glens…. Happy and independent.

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  15. 36
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Why does this piece of paper look like one of those diplomatic communiques that says, in effect, the two leaders sat around and shot the shit for about an hour and have agreed to continue to shoot the shit on a regular basis till all the shit shall have been shot, at which time a “substantive” memo, days late and bucks short, and probably irrelevant to facts on the ground, will be issued? Fast-forward to paragraph 30, which, after all the legalistic bosh-and-twaddle, says pretty much what I just did!

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  16. 40
    Dave must avoid the Elephant in the room. says:

    I take it that Scotch independence would mean the end of the BBC, the BNP and British jobs for British workers.

    Independence would be great news for England but I fail to see one single benefit for Scotland. Given that Salmond is no fool I can only conclude that he does not actually want full independence but is aiming for the lucrative (to Scotland) halfway house if Devo max. Dave has to insist that this is a straight in or out vote as a Devo max option is certain to win. This would cost England a fortune and Scotland nothing.

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  17. 41
    the Poor Bloody Taxpayer (PBT) says:

    …and paid for by?

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  18. 42
    MB. says:

    If children are going to be allowed to vote then what about lunatics? Might increase Wee Eck’s chances of winning the vote.

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    • 43
      jgm2 says:

      At what age are you liable to pay income tax?

      If they can tax you then you should be eligible to vote.

      If some child prodigy is making millions singing or acting or whatever then he/she should have the vote. No taxation without representation.

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  19. 54
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Salmong and The Gnats sign up to a referendum with Sell Out Dave.

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  20. 56
    Alex Salmong says:

    Vote for Independence and get 500 deep fried Mars Bars.

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  21. 57
    Geoffrey G Brooking says:

    MAYBE SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE ISN’T SUCH A BAD THING AFTER ALL?

    With a deal setting out terms for a Scottish Independence Referendum now signed by Prime Minister David Cameron and First Minister Alex Salmond perhaps readers might be interested in this thought.

    If Scotland were to vote for Independence in the Autumn of 2014, should the 59 M.P’s of Scotland be allowed to take part in the U.K’s General Election in May 2015?

    I know what I think but here’s a closer look at the statistics.

    Currently the 59 Scottish MPs are made up of 41 Labour, 11 Lib Dems, 6 SNP Members and 1 solitary Conservative.

    Based on the 2015 General Election Results if these 59 MPs were not taken into account then Parliament would look like this:

    Conservatives 306
    Labour 217
    Liberal Democrats 46
    Others 22

    This would give the Conservatives a Parliamentary majority of their own of 21 which is almost identical to the result of the full UK General Election in 1992.

    Maybe Scottish Independence isn’t such a bad thing after all?

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  22. 60
    scunner says:

    A quick glance at the ill-informed spite and bile on this thread is all you need to know about the ever-increasing support for Scottish Independence.

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