September 21st, 2012

“Friends of Mitchell” Deny “Pleb” Charge

“Friends of Andrew Mitchell” have kicked into action, briefing Tim Shipman of the Mail that his  rant was not “overheard by the public. It was a few muttered comments”. They/he also denies the use of the word “pleb” but “not getting into the rest of it”. The damage is done though.

Where he said: “We need more respect and more police on the streets.”

UPDATE:


135 Comments

  1. 1
    Camoron's doing a splendid job, isn't he? says:

    UK public sector net borrowing was £14.4bn in August, the Office for National Statistics has said, little changed from the same month last year.

    But the figure was the biggest monthly deficit on record for the month of August.

  2. 2
    Legal Crook says:

    Perilously close to: ‘Some of my best mates are coppers’ – more like ‘some of my best mates are Chief Constables’

  3. 3
    On time and to budget says:

    Oh my God !

    Who is steering this ship ?

  4. 4
    Mitchell is a gobby fuck and he should be glad he didn't meet this cop says:

  5. 5
    Freddie Fraudster says:

    The fundamental principle of policing set by Peel was that ‘the police are the people and the people are the police’ so by definition coppers are plebian. They should be proud of that.

    At least they are not arrogant jumped up shits who have forgotten that Governments are supposed to work for the people rather than Lord it over them contemptuously. Still come the next election even we Conservatives have a choice and this shambolic clan of no-hopers are making it so easy not to vote Conservative.

  6. 6
    V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

    We can’t go on like this, deport all the benefit tourists now, convert all benefits to loans except for the disabled and pensioners and move all housing benefit claimants into caravans. Problem solved!

  7. 7
    Anonymous says:

    Damn facist jack booted polizi ! How dare they put things in his back passage.

    He should claim compensation. It happened to him when he was at Uni too:

  8. 8
    Freddie Fraudster says:

    By the way, why is Mitchell still in his job today? Have they noone else better than this? After all the man went to Rugby for Gods sake. Its not even as though he is one of us.

  9. 9
    Abdullah says:

    But the nice person from the Labours said I would get £50 if I register 9000 postal votings!

  10. 10
    Butch Dave says:

    Shut the fuck up! Plebs!

  11. 11
    Jacob(ite) says:

    About 18 months ago, I walked past the back of Downing St on the way into HMT. En route, I observed Mitchell at the gates screaming (not muttering …) at police that he was a Cabinet minister and was late for a meeting with the PM. It was fairly clear that he had basically forgotten his pass (or couldn’t be bothered to get it out) and decided to adopt a shouty version of ‘don’t you know who I am’ (clearly they did not).

    I don’t think he actually swore, but the outline as reported by the Sun seems entirely credible.

  12. 12
    Sophie says:

    Mitchell has to resign.

    End of.

  13. 13
    WVM says:

    Coppers think of themselves as separate from the ‘plebs’/public believe me!

  14. 14
    Tony Blair, Millionaire says:

    I know it’s ghastly. The man never went to Fettes or St Paul’s.

  15. 15
    George Osborne's favourite rentboy says:

    Public borrowing: that is receipts minus expenditure wasn’t unchanged from August 2011. It was £400m higher. ‘Investment’ by govt. was down £400m, hence the unchanged.

  16. 16
    Moussa Koussa says:

    I have been warning you about Andrew Monghell for 2 years.

  17. 17
    Buggering Freemasons says:

    We’re all in this together.

  18. 18
    nellnewman says:

    ‘Have they no-one else better than this’?

    There is no-one in the uk government of any party that is worthwhile. They are all a complete waste of space.

  19. 19
    I wish police were more like this says:

  20. 20
    Rastafar Ian says:

    Yo! Respec man

    Da Bro is giving it to the pigs, innit. He is one of us on da inside an’ whity outside.

  21. 21
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    …or “Some of my mates are in the same Lodge”

  22. 22
    Sir Nobby Bettison and his Freemason pals says:

    Thank fuck we can still rely on twats like you!

  23. 23
    Webwrights says:

    Clearly Andrew Mitchell has been a victim of the age-old Police practice of ‘verballing’, which is achingly familiar to anyone who has ever read a confession or witness statement or heard Plod reading (like a speak-your-weight machine with a stammer) in Court from his ‘contemporaneous notes’.

    How much would the Sun have paid if Plod merely claimed that Mitchell had said “Excuse me, officer, could you please let me through. I know you’re not strictly supposed to but am in rather a hurry”? Approximately 10% of 3/8th of the cube-root of fuck-all, I reckon. Doll it up with a garnish of “fuckings” and an anachronistic, class-ist, ‘arrogant Tory toff’ swipe, however, and it suddenly becomes tabloid gold.

    Fair’s fair, dear old Plod has had to find a new supplementary revenue stream, now that it’s harder to snag back-handers from journalists for providing access to the PNC.

  24. 24
    Dick Cressida, Yates of the Yard, Sir Ian Blair, Sir Paul... says:

    +100!

  25. 25
    Gawd Help Us says:

    I would find sacking preferable, resigning has feel of nobility about it.

  26. 26
    Hamish Macbeth says:

    Do you really think that Webwright ??

    More likely he came out with those lines.

    Cops lose their jobs for getting other “revenue streams” or getting paid off the press – unlike MPs

  27. 27
    Common Purpose says:

    +1000!

  28. 28
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    Because of the report of a Sun journalist? Yeah right!

    If a Sun journalist says a politician ordered children to go down a coal pit and dig up lumps of coal for him will people will believe that bollocks as well?

    Mitchell may well be an arrogant twat but that is no excuse for being so gullible as to believe the words of a Sun journalist. Or any journalist come to that.

  29. 29
    Andrew Strauss says:

    For crying out loud,this whole incident should be put down to “banter”.

    Andrew Mitchell was a fine cricketer in his youth and has had to cope with his fair share of”sledging” on the cricket field.

  30. 30
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’m beginning to see some good in my stand-in.

  31. 31
    Really? says:

    Caravans?

    The chavs would just steal them, tow them offsite and sell them. Just send the parasites to scotchland instead and mine the border.

  32. 32
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    No, they do not.

    The Lib / Lab / Con Party – that cabal of crooks, small time opportunists & treasonous ba_tards are by design & inner party selection process devoid of any patriots or visionary talent.

    If you show signs that you believe in Britain & our history, heritage & culture you have no chance of progressing through the party machine.

    Mitchell must go – sacked by teatime

  33. 33
    John of Hull and Damnation says:

    I tookalotta that! Had ter comforteat.

  34. 34
    Who are you calling a fucking pleb? says:

    Very nice try, but the explanation is far simpler.

    Mitchell is a mouthy, arrogant cun*t – as anyone sensible who has had to deal with the wanker will happily testify.

  35. 35
    My favourite story of the week says:

    Ain’t karma a bitch?

    A P*kistani man, one of approximately 10,000 people participating in an anti-American rally, has reportedly died. The cause of death? Complications from inhaling the smoke of burning American flags. One of the participants of the rally, Abdullah Ismail, passed away after he was taken to Mayo Hospital. Witnesses said he had complained of feeling unwell from the smoke from US flags burnt at the rally.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2012/09/16/pakistani-protester-burns-american-flag-and-dies-from-smoke/

  36. 36
    My favourite story of the week says:

    Ain’t karma a bitch?

    A P*kistani man, one of approximately 10,000 people participating in an anti-American rally, has reportedly died. The cause of death? Complications from inhaling the smoke of burning American flags. One of the participants of the rally, Abdullah Ismail, passed away after he was taken to Mayo Hospital. Witnesses said he had complained of feeling unwell from the smoke from US flags burnt at the rally.

  37. 37
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    I would be extremely surprised if he said the words quoted. However if the journalist has a verbal recording then let’ s hear it. I am sure if he had one it would have been all over the media by now.

    It is not unknown that journalists of even respected newspapers (if there are any) will twist the truth. I remain sceptical.

  38. 38
    Chukwit says:

    The Unions are the wealth creators

  39. 39
    Eeyore says:

    Andrew Mitchell – mercifully no longer in charge of giving our (borrowed) money away to India, Nigeria, Pakistan and assorted other kleptocracies. The man is no Tory and should be a LibDem.

  40. 40
    Gordon Brown says:

    This morning I have re-designing the hot cross bun

  41. 41
    OfCourseHeSaidPleb says:

    Such a senistive location is bound to be covered by CCTV. Lets see the footage and lets get a lip reader in. Release the footage of this incident now!

  42. 42
    Moussa Koussa says:

    The man is a gargantuan prick of the highest order, always has been and always will be.

    He epitomises all that is wrong with the Tories. A bully boy barker, who thinks he is always right; privileged back ground, privately educated son of the landed class.

    Believe me…He believes that all outside of his circle are plebs.

    His expenses are also very interesting, seems to take taxi everywhere, the bike is clearly a one off, hence the run in with the cops, as he has never cycled out of Downing street before. Another call me Dave photo op cock up me thinks.

  43. 43
    Lord Young says:

    Fucking goy plebs! You fucking vermin scum have never had it so good! What you need is a another good war for Israel.

  44. 44
    Pawn Sandwich says:

    We need a judge led enquiry.

  45. 45
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Greetings UKIP,

    Why is Mitchell apologising to the Policeman if his conduct was be-fitting that of a senior member of Her Majesty’s Government?

    Regards

  46. 46
    Cato says:

    If he didn’t say them, then why is he apologising?

  47. 47
    Weygand says:

    Thank you for your incisive analysis, which to be fair is identical to that of those knee jerk politicos Cooper and Murphy as reported by the BBC – and just as pathetic and self-serving.

  48. 48
    Go Now says:

  49. 49
    Birch the Twat says:

    At least he is no longer allowed to give billions of pounds away to third world shitholes. Also he is no more a Tory than him in No10, slimy bastardo.

  50. 50
    The Paragnostic says:

    As a pedant, may I point out that not even a Victorian would capitalise the word ‘lord’ when it is used as a verb?

    Thank you.

  51. 51
    Wotta Tossa says:

  52. 52
    It gets worse says:

    So as the plod did tell No 10 that he called them “fucking Plebs”, then he is now calling them fucking liars.

  53. 53
    Lord Pension of Abolish after I've left says:

    What? You mean there should be a murdering shit in every station?

  54. 54
    Butch Cameron and the CrackPot Kid says:

    Our Policies will lead to a huge turnout at the next Election.

  55. 55
    Brillo says:

  56. 56
    Ed Moribund says:

    BBC reporting that labour are calling for Mitchell to ‘explain himself.’

    Thank heavens for that. I thought the next Bandwagon would never come!

  57. 57

    Аs а mіnіstеr, Mіtchеll hаs а chаuffеr drіvеn cаr аt hіs dіspоsаl. Іf hе hаd аrrіvеd іn іt, thеy wоuld hаvе hаd tо lеt hіm thrоugh thе gаtе. Nо quеstіоn.

    Sо іt sееms rеаsоnаblе thаt іf hе chооsеs tо cyclе thе sаmе shоuld hаppеn. Thе іssuе оf hоw tо dеаl wіth thе pоlіcе fаіlіng tо rеcоgnіsе thаt fаct іs аnоthеr. Аs yоu sаy, thіngs cаn gеt drаmаtіsеd іn pоlіcе stаtеmеnts frоm tіmе tо tіmе.

    І hаvе nо іdеа whо іs аt fаult hеrе but І suspеct іt іnvоlvеs mоrе thаn оnе pеrsоn.

  58. 58
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    What an excellent ruse, impregnate the threads of the flag with a chemical which produces cyanide gas when burnt.

  59. 59
    Elf and Safety says:

    Those cheap Chinese made flags tend to do that.

  60. 60

    I will defend to your death the right to say it.

  61. 61
    a non says:

    Yvette has promised to take flowers!

  62. 62
    Freddie Fraudster says:

    My my … all those Spads spending the Government’s money to defend the indefensible. Shocking isn’t it

  63. 63
    Gordon Brown says:

    And there was me worried about a Back Door scandal!

  64. 64
    Ed Milibandwagon says:

    We need a judge lead enquiry in to this, shouting and swearing a cops is WRONG!

  65. 65
    Sir William Waad says:

    Time for your medication.

  66. 66
    Fashionista says:

    Because, my deere, appo-lo-gees are all the rage! If you haven’t got appo-lo-gee you’re noone!

  67. 67
    Sir William Waad says:

    The Sun’s police source wouldn’t happen to come from South Yorkshire, by any chance?

  68. 68

    How can the FT spin a record August deficit as better?

    In what sort of parallel universe does its journalists inhabit?

  69. 69
    So is wasting my fucking money! says:

    Take ‘em out and Hang the bastards – sorted!

  70. 70
    Cleggs Colostomy bag says:

    +9000

  71. 71
    Freddie Fraudster says:

    What about a Victorian Pleb Guv’nor?

  72. 72
    The Slimey Bastrdo in No 10 says:

    Oh! – come now! Moi?

  73. 73
    Freddie Fraudster says:

    There are a few spikes on the railings around Whitehall and No !0./ Be ideal for a head

  74. 74
    Gordon Brown says:

    This afternoon I will be practicing for the Pamplona Bull Run in Birnam Road Kirkaldy Spar Minimart

  75. 75
    Bye Bye says:

  76. 76
    Moussaka Koussaka says:

    To hear Moussa Koussa describe someone as a gargantuan prick of the highest order seems strangely surreal.

  77. 77
    smoggie says:

    Every school has its Flashman.

  78. 78
    Freddie Fraudster says:

  79. 79
    Sir William Waad says:

    As a pedant, can I point out that ‘plebs’ is singular – “the common people” – so that ‘pleb’ makes no sense. Mr Mitchell might have said ‘plebeian’, ‘peasant’ or ‘Huhne’.

  80. 80
    Mr Murdoch says:

    You are Lord Leverson and I claim my Piers Morgan tea towel

  81. 81
    Dingo says:

    I did my work experience for a solicitor who would always address the police witness as Huntstubble

  82. 82
    smoggie says:

    Sounds very NuLabour to me.

  83. 83
    Plods says:

    Andrew Mitchell! We have your number!!

  84. 84
    Dingo says:

    Hunt Hunt Hunt

  85. 85
    Damian Green says:

    Not really!

  86. 86
    W.W. says:

    “Probably beaten his maid for not folding the linen on his bed correctly. ”

    And rightly so.

    W.W.

  87. 87
    Errol Flynn says:

    Did somebody call?

  88. 88
    Geoffrey H. Hindsmath (Major) British forces (ret) says:

    What makes this country great is the lack of FREE SPEACH!!Mr Moderator!

  89. 89
    Oh I don't know says:

    He’s a shit – diss him – end of.

  90. 90
    green ink says:

    so there we have it folks …david and ed in a stage clinch as tony slips into the returning guru role at conference

  91. 91
    Anonymous says:

    It is.

  92. 92
    Sir says:

    Oy vey! Nuke Merseyside!

  93. 93
    Andrew B'stard Mitchell says:

  94. 94
    Sir Irvine Patnick says:

    Oy vey! Nuke Merseyside!

  95. 95
    Really? says:

    What you don’t ‘feel proud’ that your hard earned taxes are being pissed away around the world?
    Shocking, I suppose next you will want a full audit of all the other taxpayer funded largesse, scams and outright lies we are forced to pay for.

  96. 96
    simon r says:

    The Labour Party – who gave us such sweet gentle souls as Brown, McBride, Watson, Prescott, Campbell, Eric Joyce…

  97. 97
    Legal Crook says:

    Listen to the bit at 3:40, about fiscal policy. That was written over 30 years ago. Spooky!!!!!

  98. 98
    Toby G says:

    “If people swear at the police, they must expect to be arrested,”

    “If people feel there are no comebacks, no boundaries and no retribution for the small stuff, then I’m afraid they will go on to commit worse crimes.”

    London mayor, Boris Johnson – Conservative Conference, October 2011

  99. 99
    Legal Crook says:

    Sorry the bit at 2.20.

  100. 100
    Boris says:

    Boris Johnson: people swearing at police should expect to be arrested.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/04/boris-johnson-people-swearing-police-arrested

  101. 101
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Mitchell is a banker and a politician. He just needs to train as an estate agent to complete the hat-trick.

  102. 102
    Anonymous says:

    It’s your word against mine, sir!

  103. 103
    arse mcblair says:

    piss off shitbrain

  104. 104
    Anonymous says:

    It’s your word against mine, sir!!

  105. 105
    Nemesis says:

    I thought after Hillsborough report etc that coppers were on a par with bankers and politicians. Most are indeed plebs and plods and should be treated as so.

  106. 106
    To-day's Banana Skin IS..... says:

    No doubt he’ll the fucking plebs to fuck off !!! Fucking oiks the lot of them

  107. 107
    Tomorrow's Chip Wrapper says:

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaa !!!! Have they forgotten 13 years of Labour already ???

  108. 108
    Tomorrow's Chip Wrapper says:

    Unless you’re stopped for speeding of course…in which case it’s best to very very polite and call them Constable,Officer, Sir or Madam

  109. 109
  110. 110
    Julian the Wonderhorse says:

    the Beeb is going to love this, see them press this for as long as possible

  111. 111
    ana says:

    the point is fuck face that mitchell is just exhibiting his disdain for the working man – any c’unt tory or labour should be similarly villified for being an abnoxious fucking bastard – stereotypically tory in fact

  112. 112
    Anonymous says:

    ab.dull.ah

  113. 113
    The Golem says:

    +1 WVM

  114. 114
    Blowing Whistles says:

    The whole issue seems too contrived and manipulated – there is something very strange going on at many levels of government – Some kind of ‘putch’ / ‘purge’ appears to be happening in this corrupted state.

    Perhaps the Common Purpose nutters are desperate to hoist even more control upon our lives?

  115. 115
    Fish says:

    Yes. Five live – Sheelagh Somebody – all over this. I’d driven about 20 miles and she was on her fourth invited guest and still going on about when I had to get out of the car.

    Seemed like she was doing a Mitchel special.

  116. 116
    Anonymous says:

    the quality of shit is at fault. it is a medical fact.

  117. 117
    Anonymous says:

    the number 1 issue in this country appears to be competency in money management. If the rich are more content then sooner or later the rest of the country will get around to this view too.

  118. 118
    Anonymous says:

    given that our global status matters, I suppose the views of those who have now left our shores matters, but less now?

  119. 119
    Anonymous says:

    Blahiar, Brown were/are seen as world class. FT the same I suppose.

  120. 120
    Anonymous says:

    reasonable. though the action of senior police not always attractive.

  121. 121
    RSM says:

    This man is an ex solider !?

    ‘We use words like honour, code, loyalty…we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use ‘em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I’d rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. ‘

    Time to go NO HONOUR to see here.

  122. 122
    Webwrights says:

    Well, I’ll admit that it was written ever-so slightly tongue-in-cheek, and Andrew Mitchell possibly wasn’t quite as restrained as I suggested. Clearly my comment was not as grounded in unimpeachable truth as is the case for every other of Guido’s correspondents. The level of high-minded debate here, with such commendable restraint in the use of coarse language in the badinage, puts my grunting, monosyllabic command of the demotic to shame. Yeah, right.

    Nevertheless, verballing by Plod has a long and dishonourable history. “It’s a fair cop, guv. Yes, me an’ Charlie done it, and the Lloyds Bank blag, an’ all.” Pull the other one, for surely it hath bells upon it.

    As for the blind, unswerving trust implicit in your final sentence: look. these deeds show that I have rock-solid title to this here Eiffel Tower, which I invite you to buy from me this afternoon for a mere £1m.

  123. 123
    Eeyore says:

    If only it were MY taxes being pissed away. Regrettably it’s my children’s and grandchildren’s, since we are BORROWING to give this money away and they will be rquired to repay it.

    Perhaps we could all club together to buy Cameron a brain?

  124. 124

    This is probably going to surprise you but crossing 22 miles of water does not affect your cognitive powers in the slightest way.

  125. 125

    The only thing that downgrades the reliability of the Sun story is that they stick firmly by it.
    Seriously though, politicians forget they’re human until they mess up. At which point anything is an “easy mistake” warranting a “second chance”…

  126. 126
    Moby dick says:

    No recording–HE’S SAFE

  127. 127
    Blowing Whistles says:

    This is the kind of power that all the power crazed pigs in the UK crave for – to be able to act in this manner and be immune from any form of prosecution. It’s what Communism’s all about.

  128. 128
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Anything like this which ‘The Sun’ publishes is highly questionable for its verasity [Truthfulness / ‘The Truth’ a la Kelvin the Fwit Mackenzie]

    Murdoch has always acted with the ‘stablishment – while being seen to be against them – it’s a right old dirty digger “trick”.

  129. 129
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Tim Burt was a former FT Hack – he spun things for Pearsons & Murdochs benefit. Note I stated former Hack – ‘cos he’s had his card marked for being a dirty digger suborned twat.

  130. 130
    Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Why? It will make very little difference to the UK’s muzzie population.

  131. 131
    Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Now if you were to nuke Birmingham, Bradford, Blackburn or Bournemouth!

  132. 132
    Nemesis says:

    If he did call them fucking plebs what’s wrong with that? Why should he be pilloried for saying the truth. I’d call plod a lot worse than that after their disgraceful Hillsborough cover-up.

  133. 133
    Ironside says:

    But he is.
    Having met Mitchell I can confirm Moussa Koussa is, if anything, being charitable to him.
    His main problem is that he is from the wrong century.

  134. 134
    Anonymous says:

    I think its really suspicious that the Police federation waded in to this story with such delight, i doubt that anybody in Mitchells position would use the word Pleb, but somebody might think they would (if you see what i mean ) and i dont think after the Levison revelations that we can always say the Police have total recall either.

  135. 135
    bruce says:

    Tell us what words she used then, for he seemed ok until what might have been an insult.


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