July 13th, 2012

Read: Pilgrim Consultation Document

“We are seeking to review and rebalance the amount of paid time off provided to undertake trade union duties, and to review the level, frequency and cost of providing paid time off for trade union activities. This consultation covers all types of trade union representatives but does not seek to change the statutory basis for these duties and activities. We also wish to review the use of  facilities by trade union representatives e.g. telephones, photocopying and use of office  accommodation, to ensure it is appropriate and represents value for money for the taxpayer.”

Rebalance? Repayment of the £36m unions siphoned from Whitehall budgets this year would be more appropriate. Either way it looks like the full time Pilgrims are doomed…


  1. 1
    Jane Pig Grim says:

    Help !

  2. 2
    gramma says:

    John Bunion must be turning in his grave too

  3. 3
    Sick boy says:

    Haven’t we found that it is not the pilgrims, but the administrators who are milking the system.

    Count the number of BMW’s and Mercs on Hospital staff car parks.

    All paid for by us.

  4. 4
    Nurse Pigrim says:

    I ain’t got no time to read all that shit! There’s shopping safaris and relaxation therapy and not forgetting me private clinic work to attend to.

    Now..get these sickies out the ward. There’s an urgent union strike for easy street life …erm I mean ..a consultation about working practices and terms and conditions of dedicated nurses, meeting in here.

    Eeeeeeeeeverybody OUT!

  5. 5
    Jen The Blue says:

    It is bloody disgraceful that I am forced as a taxpayer to pay for these lefty troublemakers.

    If people want to be in a union, then fine, but they should pick up the tab.

  6. 6
    Spartacus says:


    When huhne gets done, then i might believe that this pilgrim thing is going to happen.

  7. 7
    Nullbymouth says:

    As I said climbdown. So they have identified 250 Civil Service Pilgrims that are 100% occupied on Union matters. They propose limiting this to 50%

    So a saving of 125 full time equivalent salaries.

    Better than nothing of course, but why should a none union tax payer have to pay one red cent through council tax, income tax on ANY union activity (TUPE is a valid exception)?

  8. 8
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Excellent work Guido.

    Your work here will improve public services, save money and stick to the public-sector shirkers.

  9. 9
    Frankie go to Hollywood says:

    This stinks. The Unions should not get one single penny from the taxpayer. Why is this so called Tory minister just considering reducing their funding?

    It’s time for a proper Conservative party and a general election.

  10. 10
    MrAngry61 says:

    Pilgrims are parasites – and should be immediately reassigned a full time job and given a final warning about inappropriate use of civil service equipment/phones etc.

  11. 11
    Nullbymouth says:

    Do not assume that the BMW’s and Merc’s are managers cars. Nurses can lease these vehicles (in some places only at the moment) on a salary sacrifice basis (i.e. mainly tax free)

    Take a look at https://www.cpcdrive.nhs.uk/

    Its a good deal, but not recommended if you are 3 years to retirement as it will affect your final salary pension

  12. 12
    Cash for Crap says:

    Very very big bucks to be made out of administering hospitals. And I mean BIG BUCKS

  13. 13
    Sir William Waad says:

    Unionisation is a quaint old 20th-century custom that lingers on in the public sector long after the rest of us gave it up. It should have disappeared from the Civil Service along with bowler hats, inkstands, filing clerks and green ribbon.

  14. 14
    Fraser Whieldon says:

    Charlie Brooker was right. You are quite right-wing.

  15. 15
    Nullbymouth says:

    A compliment

  16. 16
    Sir William Waad says:

    Yes, and, during the Blair and Brown years, their numbers increased at a much faster rate than those of medical staff, if the NHS website is to be believed.

  17. 17
    Fur Trade Fare Trader of Fair Trade Plain Packs says:

    It’s plain to see whats coming.
    Plain Pack ciggies
    Plain pack Macs
    Plain pack crisps
    Plain pack condoms
    Plain pack booze
    Plain pack News
    Plain Pack Olympics
    Plain Pack Back-packs
    Plane pack holidays

  18. 18

    No bowlers?

    What am I going to keep my eggs in?

  19. 19
    The General Public says:

    Charlie Brooker is a dreary finger-wagger who isn’t nearly as intelligent as he thinks he is.

    I do though, love the way “progressives” expect people to be insulted by the epithet “right-wing”. Drives them mad when you’re not.

  20. 20

    Plain pack ChristmasWinterval presents?

  21. 21
    H H's Comment of the Week says:

    3 minutes ago: “@MShapland You’re still a Hunt.”
    4 minutes ago: “@MShapland Hunt.”

  22. 22
    ed martin says:

    …and if this doesn’t work – we’ll huff and puff some more

    there that should show’em!

    lunch anyone? allright- everyone

  23. 23
    H H's Comment of the Week says:

    Hey. If you can use the C word……???????

  24. 24
    ed martin says:

    you’ve hit your head on the nail here – its admin, not management

  25. 25
    Ah! Monika says:

    Plain pack monikers.

  26. 26

    Pass a regulation.

    Anyone doing this after 12:00 Noon today, is required to re-imburse the state from thire own pocket.

    Action today!

  27. 27
    Kevin T says:

    Also in police car parks, civil service car parks, DoD car parks…

    They’re ALL milking the system. And the fuckers have solid gold reduncancy deals too. In case you were wondering why we’re sacking (non-unionised) front line soldiers and coppers instead of thinning these parasites out.

    I wouldn’t sack them, I’d do what Crassus did to Spartacus’ army – crucify them up both sides of the M1.

  28. 28
    Ah! Monika says:

    All in a basket.

  29. 29
    Troll says:

    The Unions have no place in modern society

    Subsidised Union membership with should be treated as a benefit in kind in the P11D and taxed same as BUPA, company car or any other benefit

  30. 30


    Plain pack John Mann wank tissues?

  31. 31
    Ex Conservative Voter says:

    “Why is this so called Tory minister just considering reducing their funding?”

    Because our one-term PM Call Me Dave is a completely gutless left-wing waste of space, and his ministers (a couple of exceptions aside) reflect this.

    Here’s the result of the consultation CMD needs to read and act on: “Nobody in the civil service may use any of their working day to undertake any union activity.”

    Job done.

  32. 32
    Nullbymouth says:

    Are those happy tissues or sad tissues?

  33. 33
    Nullbymouth says:


  34. 34

    Moore is less:

    Henry Moore Sundial stolen from garden Belfast Telegraph

  35. 35
    Jen The Blue says:

    Indeed. Why are they not just stopping it? Has this government got any testicles?

  36. 36
    David Cameron (Leader of the Nasty Party) says:

    And all the time millionaire bankers are £40,000 per year better off as a result of the higher rate tax cuts.

    I know how to lose the next General Election,don’t I ?

  37. 37
    Nurse Pilgrim says:

    Just built Multi-story car park for the Staff on-site in Salford. Visitors CP moved off-site and bused in. Every day for next 100 years.
    Hee Hee.

  38. 38
    Jen The Blue says:

    I like the bowler hats.

  39. 39
    Nullbymouth says:

    Maybe the bankers can underwrite the Pilgrims salaries. At £40k tax saving two bankers should be able to underwrite one pilgrim

  40. 40
    Ex Conservative Voter says:


  41. 41
    Sniper says:

    Yeah! And the M4 (elf’n’safety permitting).

  42. 42
    Loungelizard says:

    Hardly going to affect the way they vote but it might if handled well make the dissatisfied think the Tory party is worth one more chance.

  43. 43
    Nick says:

    Six feet under?

  44. 44
    Macclesfield Garage owner says:

    It’s ridiculous, I’m servicing NHS cars 100% of the time. Just can’t take time off to spend , spend , spend. Stopped doing the Lottery, no need.

  45. 45

    Is an overoptimist happy or sad?

  46. 46
    Angela Merkel says:

    So what!

  47. 47
    Guilty Secret says:

    In my youth I was a (part time) Civil Service union rep.

    My union duties consisted of representing (& defending) the incompetent, the inadequate, the bone idle & the bolshie (the latter category comprising ex union reps).

    The best thing that the Public Sector could do would be to unrecognise the existing unions and deal with their staff as individuals rather than as union chapels.

  48. 48
    Caring Profession my arse says:

    Get back to proper nursing Pilgrim you troughing pig.

    Yesterday I visited my Mum in Hospital. She had run out of water and been asking all morning. The doctor had told her to drink plenty of water. You might think recent events had them a little more focussed.

    Nurses all sat at workstation gossiping. Could I get some water? No, we’re too posh busy, you need to find an ancilliary to do that. Mum says there is just one ancilliary on today in a ward of about 30 patients.

    Can I get it myself? No, patients aren’t allowed in the staff kitchen where the only supply of drinking water is to be found.

    Oh well, off to the shop for a bottle of water then, most of which my Mum gave to the women in the next bed.

  49. 49
    Ex Conservative Voter says:

    Since the money’s theirs in the first place, they’re not actually going to be any better off – they’re just going to have 40,000 fewer pound coins stolen from their paycheques.

    40,000 pound coins that they will probably spend in bars, restaurants, furniture shops, bathroom showrooms and so on. Helping the economy to grow, and increasing job opportunities for the unemployed.

    It’s a shame it’s not 80,000 pound coins, isn’t it?

  50. 50
    George Gideon Oliver Osborne says:

    After the summer recess I shall bring forward proposals to “bash” the Bankers.

    Soon there will be no sector that the Tories will not have bashed.

    Lest we forget “We’re all in this together”

  51. 51
    Water Seller says:

    I’ve got an idea.

  52. 52
    Ah! Monika says:


  53. 53
    Lady Gaga says:

    I like Charlie

  54. 54
    Met Office Spokesperson says:

    Well, we’ve been asking for a bigger ‘puter for days now!

  55. 55
    Hugh Janus says:

    “This stinks. The Unions should not get one single penny from the taxpayer. Why is this so called Tory minister just considering reducing their funding?”

    Spot on. If union reps want to be paid for their activities then let the unions pick up the bill. It is utterly crazy that the taxpayer should be subsidising unions through the back door.

    But why do I get the awful feeling that One Term Dave will wimp out on this measure??

  56. 56
    Penfold says:

    Typical of the left, always spending other people’s monies.

    Quite right, we should seek reimbursement of all monies from the Unions, it is/was an illegal subsidy.

    Now that Maude has started to sort Westminster out, time for statutory Acts to be passed and local government deal with the same problem.

  57. 57
    Capitalist says:


  58. 58
    Ah! Monika says:


  59. 59
    Hugh Janus says:

    Wasn’t the bed/administrator ratio 1:1? Now, if we had medical staff on that scale…..

  60. 60
    Hugh Janus says:

    Precisely. What is there to consult about??

  61. 61
    Hugh Janus says:

    I think we all know the answer to that one.

    And never likely to have, either.

  62. 62
    ed martin says:

    why does the nhs need cars?

  63. 63
    H H's Comment of the Week says:

    A bit one sided these tweets Guido.

    @MShapland Yes, you should wear it on a badge “Hunt”.
    View conversation
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    35m Guido Fawkes ‏@GuidoFawkes
    @MShapland You’re still a Hunt.
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    @MShapland Hunt.
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  64. 64
    ed martin says:

    he’s probably a teacher:
    tell ‘em what your going to tell ‘em
    tell ‘em
    then tell ‘em what you’ve just told them

  65. 65
    Left a bit more Berny says:

    Just what the BBC newsreaders do!

  66. 66
    casstrickland says:

    And can we please extend this to the NHS and local authorities

  67. 67
    Left a bit more Berny says:

    … and all the while repealing the unnecessary left wing H&S interfering busybody crap laws and regs etc left over from the Brownout years.

  68. 68


    Not as intelligent. :-(

  69. 69
    Anonymous says:

    Not another fucking consultation. Can’t they just make a fucking decision and then implement it !

  70. 70
    erm... says:

    The Conservative Party now has 177,000 members, down from around two million 50 years ago;
    the Labour Party has 194,000 members, down from almost one million.
    In 1964, the Liberals had 280,000 members; the Lib Dems currently have 65,000.
    …mentioned in This Week (the publication)
    is labour membership higher as it is subsidised? #justasking.
    no date given on when Labour party membership was almost one million.

  71. 71
  72. 72
    Pundit Too says:

    +30 million others in the uk – extend it to ALL PUBLIC SERVICES

  73. 73
    Atualpa says:

    It is vital that the consultation encompasses The Association of Chief Police Officers, the hugely powerful senior cops’ union, which has many business interests and is run by full time officials paid by the taxpayer.

  74. 74
    Hiram Abif says:

    Hands off! We Megaplod are really no more than defenceless little furry creatures who cannot lift a paw to defend ourselves.

  75. 75
    Anonymous says:

    what about fascist ?

  76. 76
    Anonymous says:

    funny thread this…your followers are not very bright are they guido

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