Ed’s Evidence Points to Brown’s Perjury
Ed Miliband wasted no time in dumping his old boss in it at Leveson. When asked yesterday whether any of his advisers had briefed against colleagues, Gordon Brown insisted:
“I would hope not, I have no evidence for that.”
Yet Ed says that’s not the case. Asked whether Ed Balls, Charlie Whelan or Damian McBride had ever engaged in negative briefings to the press, he said:
“Ed Balls, no. Charlie Whelan left, I believe in 1999…one of the reasons he left was he briefed. On Damian McBride, when I was a Cabinet minister, I did raise a specific concern that I had with Mr Brown, I believe in 2008, about some of Mr McBride’s activities.”
Gordon says he knew nothing about the dark arts of Whelan and McBride, but Ed says he personally told him about it in 2008. Brown was on oath…
UPDATE:
Both Miliband and Major have torpedoed Brown's evidence today on spads. Brown was either wilfully ignorant, self-deluded or lying.—
Tim Shipman (Mail) (@ShippersUnbound) June 12, 2012
Even ed must have been embarresed by Mc Mental yesterday.
But why did mr J back off at that very moment? It was obvious that Ed wanted to say more.
Miliband’s wife being an employee of Jay had nothing to do with it
Ed’s just trying to re-separate Old Labour from New Labour, dear.
Did you need that hyphen, Elsie?
Not really, dear. As I said to my Reg on our wedding night in August ’46, once it’s gone, it’s gone forever.
Guido, I should warn you against accusing Brown of Perjury. The second reading of the Defamation Bill is going through parliament at this very moment. Who knows, if Gordon brings a case against you, you could find yourself up before My Lord Justice Leveson !!
Gordon Like Bliar – cannot bring defamation acts / cases against ‘anyone’ – because to do so – they leave themselves open in court to further prove their Criminality.
Love to see Brownnose try it – sure guido has plenty of evidence.
“It was obvious that Ed wanted to say more.”
That is the core of my defence against anything this back-stabber says:
‘no-one wants to listen to him, just nod and wave him away’.
I saw these and immediately liked the idea, so I have asked Sarah to buy me a copy of Civ II.
“The world is a hellish nightmare of suffering and devastation.”
“I was forced to do away with democracy roughly a thousand years ago because it was endangering my empire.”
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/uxpil/ive_been_playing_the_same_game_of_civilization_ii/
Only I, Gordon, can save the Celts, and save my World.
” Brown was on oath…”
I think you meant ‘an oaf ‘ A large, clumsy, slow witted buffoon.
There, that’s put matters right.
How about an FoI on Jay’s fee.
It is mug-payers, er sorry, tax-payers money afterall?
Sky’s multi platform dominance of UK media bred its arrogance
BBC’s multi platform dominance of UK media bred its arrogance.
Sky was politically beholden to no one.
BBC is beholden to its fellow travellers in the left wing public sector.
If Sky has to have its dominance curtailed then so does the BBC.
OH poodle snips – giving the Murdoch Hacking Clan more power does nobody any favours
Or do you really mean, “Anything that erodes the BBC’s near-monopoly of broadcast news must be resisted”?
Brown’s statement is a simple non-denial denial.
Note his use of the present tense with ‘I have no evidence’.
Who cares whether he has any evidence now or not, nor what he hopes would be the case.
The question to be answered is whether he knew at the time.
Ed Balls no, WTF……..Did Milli minor’s nose grow a bit more after that statement…
“Gordon says he knew nothing about the dark arts of Whelan and McBride”
Guido,
Please reference the quote where Gordon Brown said “he knew nothing”?
He replied evasively… He did not actually say anything that could be construed as a lie.
You have unwittingly caused a number of Tory or Murdoch supporters to froth at the mouth and I sincerely hope you do everything in your power to free them from their own wilful ignorance about what is and what isn’t perjury.
Aha, even his loyal henchman has flushed out Brown as a liar!
Brown is on the run now, a man who apparently lied under oath. High time he was arrested and charged I say.
It is, but will he?
Course he won’t be arrested – just let it go
Brown will definately get re-called. He has told a pack of fucking lies. Its the world against him.
If politicians were prosecuted for lying, parliament would be emptied overnight. Now there’s a thought …
He would be certain to play the mentally unfit card.
And who could argue?
W.W.
Every still current and old member of the New Labour project is guilty by association for a multiple of crimes against the British public – The taxpayer.
Don’t be fooled by the in-fighting – Bliar & Broon were enemies – but the collectively co-conspired in multiple acts of criminality. See Archbold.
No doubt we can look forward to Gordon Brown’s perjury trial then.
Like THAT is ever going to happen ???
Will that be before or after Blair’s war crimes trial?
Could have asked Gordon
“Did you stop boom & bust”
The answer
“Yes of course”
Your nicked Mc’looooon
He did though.
No more boom. Just bust!
Gordon brown has a wife and children. He posed with them in the press, so he can’t possibly have told any lies.
” Brown was either wilfully ignorant, self-deluded or lying.”
That’s not what Sarah calls me.
Why include the word “either” in your statement ?
That’s not the real Gordo. He doesn’t know who Sarah is.
Gordon will use the *Maggie Moran* defence.
Well ‘truth’, he did try to squeeze a few tears out of his glass eye, but only finished up looking rather constipated.
He’s borrowed the hat in readiness.
Gordon Brown telling the truth – now that would be newsworthy!
There is no inconsistency between anything said by the woderful Mr Brown and anything said by the principled Mr Miliband. Of course, the real story of the week will be Mr Cameron’s appearance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
It would be quite inappropriate to suggest that there are any spiders’ webs around. Unless the spiders happen to be Tory politicians.
In other news, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, according to activists on the internet, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria.
Don’t forget Gay marriage and the reactionary stance of the Church of England……………
Probably the majority of the U.K. isn’t (bare)backing Gay Marriage either…
So BBC need to “lead” on this.
This Leveson inquiry. Whilst it can not be said that any of the attendees are out and out liars it can be said that not one of the people appearing at the inquiry to give evidence has told the the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
The truth is for the little people.
Ah, so now that Ed has said it, we learn for the very first time that Gordon Brown is a liar… Who knew?
I never sought to put my children into the public domain.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1360053/Sarah-Brown-diaries-How-I-nearly-burned-No-10.html
It’s true I tell you, I never allowed them to be photographed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1360398/Sarah-Gordon-Browns-tearful-goodbye-No-10-Downing-Street.html
We have room on The Plinth for a 20ft enlargement of that photo.
No really I never exploited my Children to gain sympathy from the electorate. I wasn’t really on National TV talking to Piers Morgan show, breaking into tears. With Sarah crying in the audience. o I never put my children dead or alive into the public domin.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1359721/Sarah-Brown-diaries-Prince-Williams-royal-rescue-buckled-strain.html
I remember the very first day he said that he did not exploit his family for political gain. Presumably to get a dig in at some interview brother that Cameron must have done.
The very next day was the first time he had his missus introduce him to the party conference as ‘my husband, my hero’.
Brown is just a useless liar. Most folk, if they were planning to lie, would just go ahead and lie. Brown (inadvertently) used to actually lie in advance about what lie he was going to tell you.
He did the same thing when he increased NI the day after the 2001 election. The T*ries had got wind he was planning to increase NI and so he was constantly being asked by interviewers if the rumours were true. So he told a pack of lies about not wanting to answer that question…. ‘because you’d only ask him another question about some other tax’. Honestly. That’s the lie he’d come up with for not answering a simple closed question.
Guess what? First day after the 2001 election victory. NI up.
Brown is such a liar that he even had a judge issue a ruling that his lies were to be expected. His fucking manifesto ‘We pledge….’ was ‘not subject to legitimate expectation’. And the fucking lunatic saw that as a good thing.
Although in the context of his bare-faced lies to Leveson it probably is good for him personally. He can point to existing case law which absolves him, personally, of any obligation to tell the truth.
Why should he bother to point to case law when we all know that politicons are not subject to law?
He has it in writing. From a judge.
“I remember the very first day he said that he did not exploit his family for political gain. Presumably to get a dig in at some interview brother that Cameron must have done.”
your own wife voluntarily giving a speech at a party conference is a bit different to using your own children in a photo opportunity.
Ed needs to sort out his nose – it contracts when he breathes in.
I can stop him breathing in.
When can you do the operation ‘ENT’? I’m sure most of us will conribute to his demise.
I think the make up lady was having a larf. He’s got Panda Eyes, a glowing red shonk and wubbery lips.
Perhaps it just needs a good pick.
Let me have a go.
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/272163299/Ice_Pick.jpg
That pick is so 1890′s
Meanwhile, I see the Falkland Islanders are to get a referendum on their sovereignty. Sky is quoting B1lly Vague as saying: “So the Prime Minister and I support this initiative to demonstrate – without doubt – the definitive view of the Falkland Islands people.”
How about letting us have a “definitive view” on EU membership, then, B1lly?
No, thought not.
This will mean a referendum under the European Union Act 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18409175
Vote UKIP
There is no alternative
” Brown was either wilfully ignorant, self-deluded or lying.”
Whichever of those it was, it is still perjury.
It’s all three.
I am all of the above.
Woefully ignorant self-deluding liar.
“Whichever of those it was, it is still perjury.”
No it isn’t.
When you say you “have no evidence”… it doesn’t mean you “have no knowledge”.
You are all over the place. So does this me Ed is a honest man who is trust worthy. Please discuss blue noses.
Are you calling Vacant Ned a liar?
Over to you.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Leveson is turning into a bit of a car crash for the old Buffty frae Kirkcaldy and nuLabor.
I noticed Prudence’s medication has gone to his waistline, or has the Bottler been comfort eating at our expense!
http://www.daylife.com/photo/05n4brnaAw4dz?__site=daylife&q=Gordon+Brown
Purple tie again.
Every day I ask WHY?
Because that idiot OE Hopeless started the look with his common white shirt and ill cut suit.
Whoa, hang on: Ed Balls never did negative briefs??!?!
And no one shouted “bollocks” when he said that?
You might think that’s what he said. In fact the question was “Were you aware of off-the-record briefings against Tony Blair and other government ministers by Ed Balls [etc]?”
So he’s gone for the “no-one told me nuffin” defence. Still, it might be interesting if someone can be found to contradict what the Leader of the Opposition said under oath….
If it would result in him having to resign as leader of the Labour party no doubt Ed Balls would do it or more likely get someone else to do it.
Je ne regrette rien
“All the chapel bells were ringing
They rang in every British town
T’was farewell that they were singing
For our little Gordie Brown,
And the nation’s population,
Thanked the Good Lord up above…”
‘…please don’t forget to mention
the destruction of your pension
and the freedoms that we love.’
Watching Ed Milibandwagon give evidence or watching paint dry – you choose.
He’s flatlining.
I thought that he was was going on too far, too fast.
” I cannot tell a lie…………….convincingly.
I HAVE tried to fool all of the people all of the time. It’s just what I do.
Or more accurately, Barnum Phineas Taylor Brown. Lincoln half-inched it I think.
All politicians play with the truth. They only tell you the bits that suit them and they hide or ignore the truth that does not fit their argument.
Gordon Brown does all this but he goes much further, he tells bare faced lies.
The press and the political class know it but no one ever tells him this to his face. Everyone skips around this with weasel words.
His lies went completely unchallenged at Leverson. He always gets away it and we will all be long dead before the truth will come out.
Well he’s going to have a long and miserable life that’s clear, as he’s completely incapable of being normal or happy – so there’s some justice.
What does Tim Shipman mean Brown was wilfully ignorant, deluded OR lying? He’s all three!
So, who is going to drop McCavity in the 5 H 1 T.
DEEP MOVIE TRAILER VOICEOVER:
THIS SUMMER, ONLY ONE MAN CAN SAVE THE WORLD, ONLY ONE MAN CAN FIX THE GLOBAL ECONOMY, AND ONLY ONE MAN CAN DESTROY EVIL!
GORDON BROWN IS:
CAPTAIN IT STARTED IN AMERICA
In a broom cupboard.
It stopped in America.
We have the yanks to thank for pulling the pin back in 2007/2008. Look at Ir*e*land. Nobody pulled the pin there until it was too fucking late. Nobody pulled the pin in Greece or Spain either until it was too fucking late. If the yanks hadn’t acted to stop all this insane consumer borrowing and government deficit spending masquerading as ‘growth’ back in 2007/8 then the Maximum Imbecile would have continued blithely marching the UK economy even further down the fucking sh*it*ter.
No wonder Omaha Beach wouldn’t pick up the phone to the Maximum Imbecile. He was fucking furious getting landed with an economy completely fucked by Greenspan and Bush and having to listen to the Imbecile telling him that it ‘started in America’. When, without the yanks coming to their senses when they did, he’d have marched us off down the road with Ir*e*land and Greece.
It didn’t start in America. It fucking well stopped in America. We have the yanks to thank for saving us.
It was said that when Obama gave Brown the gift of a Hitchcock DVD boxset, that he’d made an error by getting him a Region 1 boxset. I don’t think it was an error. He did it to piss Brown off. And it can’t have been an accident that the boxset included PSYCHO.
With…
…Harriet Harman as Bluderwoman
…Ed Balls as The Joker
…Evette Ball-Scooper as Superboy
…John Prescott as Judge Dread
…The Milliband Brothers as The Incrdibles
…Anthony Charlse Lynton Blais as Captain Marvel
AND…
Toby Benn as the Silver Surfer
Don’t forget…
Dennis Skinner as THE INCREDULOUS SULK
Alistair Campbell as TWO-FACE
Peter Mandelson as BANE (of everyone’s lives)
Mark Oaten as SCATWOMAN
and Chris Huhne as MR CLIMATE FREEZE
Well at least you all believed me when I said I saved the World.
Aaargh. Harman
Rattled throught the oath. Anyone would think that she’s had to read it before!
Well what did Miliband actually say?
The BBCs Ross Hawlkins will now fawn on and on about how great Miliband was. No mention of Brown being a liar.
Lets just say Gopher lied – nothing new!
I’ll bet them newspapers wished they hadn’t exposed our lying tax cheating House of Commons expense fiddling porn watching MPs now.
like rats in a sack.
I would have thought the least we should expect would be a full page apology from them (MPs), in the interests of balance.
Why is BBC website full of coverage of tories at Leveson but not much detail on Miliband
It’s because of the unique way that they are funded.
Because Leveson is about Tory sleaze.
There is and never has been Liebour sleaze. Although they do have a monopoly on lies, damned lies and Liebour statistics. Oh yeah, and dodgy dossiers and troughing.
He’s just a troll having a laugh.
Leave him alone.
Don’t they allow humour on Liebour blogs or is it all politically correct, self-serving ( Polly ) twaddle on the Dark Side ?
They only allow ‘humour’ of the ‘all T*ries are baby-eating scum and I can’t wait to dance on Fatcher’s grave’ school of Ben Elton type of humour. Although I don’t think they’re trying to be funny when they say it.
Anybody who questions their Brownian grasp of reality is ba*nn*ed in very short order and their comments removed from the record. It’s all very Winston Smith over there.
On a practical note, guys: How do you define a “troll” and how will the impending clampdown affect this blog?
I feel fairly relaxed about the whole situation at the moment but it doesn’t take much for me to descend into a bad trip, paranoia-wise.
Back in the early days of the interweb a ‘troll’ was simply a wind-up merchant on a blog.
Over in CiF-land a ‘troll’ is anybody who disagrees with the bedwetter group-think.
And the BBC seem to think a ‘troll’ is somebody who post rude things.
I still use the original definition.
@jgm2 June 12, 2012 at 4:28 pm:
Shit unhappens.
Are there more darkies in The Tory Party, dear?
You’re so naughty.
Elsie my dear, you need a good seeing to!
Ed is very sketchy.
That might have something to do with his empty head.
What’s the max jail time for perjury?
3 or 4 days, probably. Reduced by half for not trying to run out of the garden gate.
Think of a number & then double it for the proles.
Never found guilty for the politicons.
Blimey. Jay makes declaration about Miliband’s wife demanded earlier by @GuidoFawkes ! #leveson
“CONGRATULATIONS”………..is this the tune?
Tbh. I was glad to see the back of Tony Bliar. War Mongerer.
Don’t show my brother your back. He’ll plunge a knife between the shoulder blades.
Brown didn’t even need difficult questioning to trip him up.Jay simply asked straightforward generalities and Bonkers happily set sail to fantasy island in response.
It occurs to me that if the Murdoch version is correct, he will not be able to let that testimony remain unchallenged whilst he retains so many business interests here. If he produces records of these “non existent” telephone conversations with Brown, what will happen if someone makes a formal complaint to Plod about untrue statements made under oath?
“It occurs to me that if the Murdoch version is correct”
So…Evidence is produced to the contrary and you’re still willing to believe that Murdoch’s evidence was the true version and you’re now waiting for this none existent evidence (supporting Murdoch’s version) to turn up!
Please retreat to your own fantasy island.
Oh dear what a mess
Meth
Crystal?
Tips.
“CONTRADICTHS”
Was Milliaband under oaf when he said this ?
Oops I forgot McMental is no longer his boss
Gordon’s father, an upstanding man of the church, who thought honesty was important above all things, must be turning in his grave .
Nell he was a Jockanese and be full of burning pride that his crimanly insane sociopathic son got one over on the English
Burning in hell the Jock twat
I think what’s really surprising is that gordon continues on this self destructive road to ignominy and public disgrace.
If he had any friends left you’d think they’d tell him that all he’s doing with this vendetta and venom is destroying what little credibility he has left and that he should give it up and go and get a life.
Browns father came from a Church of Scotland which at the time was riddled with marxists and assorted leftists masquerading as Christians. I think you will see a certain consistency there.
He’s been powering the National Grid in Jockland for more than a decade now.
Is leveson going to call alastairdarling? He might have something useful to say about folks like gordon, balls, twatson and the like and those forces of hell he once spoke of.
can’t wait to see cameron squirm myself
Keep taking the tablets.
Only Tone calls Alistair darling Nell
He mispoke when he used the phrase “forces of Hell” what he meant to say was the “forces of those who are very forgiving and see the good in everybody”. I trust that clarifies matters.
Note the above should be spoken and introduced with a forced chuckle.
Dunno why the fuss about any one particular politician lying.
Truth is, they are ALL a bunch of lying ballsacks.
The sooner we realise this and clear the lot of them out, gravy train and all, the better it will be for everyone.
At their recent check-up I was unable to find a tooth in the Heads of The United Nations.
Oh dear what a meth
Crystal?
Tips.
shcosshages
ylated
Ed Milimong. Imagine all the scheming to be done to keep him in power! Lol, as in not lots of love.
I willth be Kingth one day
we all know that new labour were/ are shit – what’s the big deal? how about making a critique of the current fascist government of the UK, the coalition????
Larry the cat is useless.
Otherwise surviving
Just watched Harriet Harman. I think it must be more interesting to watch paint dry. Talentless, boring, unprepared – again! I think Mr Leveson probably went off for a stiff whisky after listening to her.
The point is you have to decide wether ay was lying when he stated that he had never met the millibands out of chamber or words to that effect, hope the press are digging up chambers xmas bashes and dinners etc. Very hard to believe that he has not met milliband
J sticking on keyboard
the coalition must be doing so bad that all the tories can talk about is labour – cripes
I may have to go for a little lie down, dear.
Two out of three in one week is not bad Guido.
Balls untrustworthy on Monday
Brown lying confirmed by Ed today.
Please tell me this will all rub off on Fatson or at least you have irons in the fire for his imminent demise.
PMQs tomorrow?
I know nossing
PaddyPower – 3/1 that Brown gets recalled.
Just put on £100. Easy money, McMental is going down.
Are you firm?
Done
You owe me £300
Send it to UKIP
Both Miliband and Major have torpedoed Brown’s evidence today on spads. Brown was either wilfully ignorant, self-deluded or lying…
Or all three at once…
Brown was part of a government without morality.
But if you think this constitutes perjury you’re very, very wrong.
No more hysteria, please.
You should just look at what has been going on in the French Socialist Government today as it makes Ed look sensible.
They have only been in power a month and the rottweiller is showing her teeth in public with scant regard for Mr President;
i’m free
to screw what i want
any old time
So Brown committed perjury; Jeffrey Archer went to the prison for that.
Yet Leveson has not commented.
Is this inquiry straight?
“I would hope not, I have no evidence for that.”
How on earth can that be construed as lying?
Even if he knew about briefing because Ed M. had informed him, it doesn’t mean that any evidence of briefing was found. Hence, “I have no evidence for that” would be an accurate statement.
Had he stated, “I knew nothing about that” or “No-one ever complained to me about that”; the case would be different.
Brown was evasive on that question, but this is not perjury. Two very different things.