June 12th, 2012

Ed’s Evidence Points to Brown’s Perjury

Ed Miliband wasted no time in dumping his old boss in it at Leveson. When asked yesterday whether any of his advisers had briefed against colleagues, Gordon Brown insisted:

“I would hope not, I have no evidence for that.”

Yet Ed says that’s not the case. Asked whether Ed Balls, Charlie Whelan or Damian McBride had ever engaged in negative briefings to the press, he said:

“Ed Balls, no. Charlie Whelan left, I believe in 1999…one of the reasons he left was he briefed. On Damian McBride, when I was a Cabinet minister, I did raise a specific concern that I had with Mr Brown, I believe in 2008, about some of Mr McBride’s activities.”

Gordon says he knew nothing about the dark arts of Whelan and McBride, but Ed says he personally told him about it in 2008. Brown was on oath…



  1. 1
    Dodgy, he must declare says:

    Even ed must have been embarresed by Mc Mental yesterday.


    • 7
      Something's not right says:

      But why did mr J back off at that very moment? It was obvious that Ed wanted to say more.


      • 30

        Miliband’s wife being an employee of Jay had nothing to do with it


        • 43
          Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

          Ed’s just trying to re-separate Old Labour from New Labour, dear.


          • My Other Van's A Comma says:

            Did you need that hyphen, Elsie?


          • Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

            Not really, dear. As I said to my Reg on our wedding night in August ’46, once it’s gone, it’s gone forever.


          • Ah! Monika says:

            Guido, I should warn you against accusing Brown of Perjury. The second reading of the Defamation Bill is going through parliament at this very moment. Who knows, if Gordon brings a case against you, you could find yourself up before My Lord Justice Leveson !!


          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Gordon Like Bliar – cannot bring defamation acts / cases against ‘anyone’ – because to do so – they leave themselves open in court to further prove their Criminality.

            Love to see Brownnose try it – sure guido has plenty of evidence.


      • 153
        Gordon 'Smiler' Brown says:

        “It was obvious that Ed wanted to say more.”

        That is the core of my defence against anything this back-stabber says:
        ‘no-one wants to listen to him, just nod and wave him away’.

        I saw these and immediately liked the idea, so I have asked Sarah to buy me a copy of Civ II.
        “The world is a hellish nightmare of suffering and devastation.”

        “I was forced to do away with democracy roughly a thousand years ago because it was endangering my empire.”


        Only I, Gordon, can save the Celts, and save my World.


    • 18
      Gordon Brown says:

      ” Brown was on oath…”

      I think you meant ‘an oaf ‘ A large, clumsy, slow witted buffoon.

      There, that’s put matters right.


    • 62
      White Van Stan says:

      Sky’s multi platform dominance of UK media bred its arrogance

      BBC’s multi platform dominance of UK media bred its arrogance.

      Sky was politically beholden to no one.

      BBC is beholden to its fellow travellers in the left wing public sector.

      If Sky has to have its dominance curtailed then so does the BBC.


      • 71
        Bob Diamond Belize says:

        OH poodle snips – giving the Murdoch Hacking Clan more power does nobody any favours


        • 97
          Engineer says:

          Or do you really mean, “Anything that erodes the BBC’s near-monopoly of broadcast news must be resisted”?


    • 104
      Ken Dodd's dad's dead dog says:

      Brown’s statement is a simple non-denial denial.

      Note his use of the present tense with ‘I have no evidence’.

      Who cares whether he has any evidence now or not, nor what he hopes would be the case.

      The question to be answered is whether he knew at the time.


    • 132
      Tony Bliar didnt fool me says:

      Ed Balls no, WTF……..Did Milli minor’s nose grow a bit more after that statement…


    • 167
      Rules of evidence says:

      “Gordon says he knew nothing about the dark arts of Whelan and McBride”


      Please reference the quote where Gordon Brown said “he knew nothing”?

      He replied evasively… He did not actually say anything that could be construed as a lie.

      You have unwittingly caused a number of Tory or Murdoch supporters to froth at the mouth and I sincerely hope you do everything in your power to free them from their own wilful ignorance about what is and what isn’t perjury.


  2. 2
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Aha, even his loyal henchman has flushed out Brown as a liar!

    Brown is on the run now, a man who apparently lied under oath. High time he was arrested and charged I say.


    • 10
      Albert Hall says:

      It is, but will he?


      • 74
        Bob Diamond Belize says:

        Course he won’t be arrested – just let it go


        • 142
          Hang The Bastards says:

          Brown will definately get re-called. He has told a pack of fucking lies. Its the world against him.


      • 76
        pissed off voter says:

        If politicians were prosecuted for lying, parliament would be emptied overnight. Now there’s a thought …


      • 78
        W.W. says:

        He would be certain to play the mentally unfit card.

        And who could argue?



        • 151
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Every still current and old member of the New Labour project is guilty by association for a multiple of crimes against the British public – The taxpayer.

          Don’t be fooled by the in-fighting – Bliar & Broon were enemies – but the collectively co-conspired in multiple acts of criminality. See Archbold.


  3. 3
    Charles Flaccidwidger says:

    No doubt we can look forward to Gordon Brown’s perjury trial then.


  4. 4
    Hitler's Doggie Had an Adorable Waggely Tail says:

    Gordon brown has a wife and children. He posed with them in the press, so he can’t possibly have told any lies.


  5. 6
    Gordon Brown says:

    ” Brown was either wilfully ignorant, self-deluded or lying.”

    That’s not what Sarah calls me.


  6. 8
    Truth says:

    Gordon will use the *Maggie Moran* defence.


  7. 9
    smoggie says:

    Gordon Brown telling the truth – now that would be newsworthy!


  8. 11
    Ross Hawkins says:

    There is no inconsistency between anything said by the woderful Mr Brown and anything said by the principled Mr Miliband. Of course, the real story of the week will be Mr Cameron’s appearance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,


    • 13
      Norman Smith says:

      It would be quite inappropriate to suggest that there are any spiders’ webs around. Unless the spiders happen to be Tory politicians.


      • 24
        The BBC Bias Unit, headcount 14,263 and rising says:

        In other news, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, according to activists on the internet, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria, Syria.


        • 54
          BBC calls for Church of England to admit that they are wrong says:

          Don’t forget Gay marriage and the reactionary stance of the Church of England……………


          • AC1 says:

            Probably the majority of the U.K. isn’t (bare)backing Gay Marriage either…

            So BBC need to “lead” on this.


  9. 12
    Fuct says:

    This Leveson inquiry. Whilst it can not be said that any of the attendees are out and out liars it can be said that not one of the people appearing at the inquiry to give evidence has told the the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.


  10. 14
    The truth can be so elusive.. says:

    Ah, so now that Ed has said it, we learn for the very first time that Gordon Brown is a liar… Who knew?


  11. 15
    • 19
    • 47
      jgm2 says:

      I remember the very first day he said that he did not exploit his family for political gain. Presumably to get a dig in at some interview brother that Cameron must have done.

      The very next day was the first time he had his missus introduce him to the party conference as ‘my husband, my hero’.

      Brown is just a useless liar. Most folk, if they were planning to lie, would just go ahead and lie. Brown (inadvertently) used to actually lie in advance about what lie he was going to tell you.

      He did the same thing when he increased NI the day after the 2001 election. The T*ries had got wind he was planning to increase NI and so he was constantly being asked by interviewers if the rumours were true. So he told a pack of lies about not wanting to answer that question…. ‘because you’d only ask him another question about some other tax’. Honestly. That’s the lie he’d come up with for not answering a simple closed question.

      Guess what? First day after the 2001 election victory. NI up.

      Brown is such a liar that he even had a judge issue a ruling that his lies were to be expected. His fucking manifesto ‘We pledge….’ was ‘not subject to legitimate expectation’. And the fucking lunatic saw that as a good thing.

      Although in the context of his bare-faced lies to Leveson it probably is good for him personally. He can point to existing case law which absolves him, personally, of any obligation to tell the truth.


      • 96
        Anonymous says:

        Why should he bother to point to case law when we all know that politicons are not subject to law?


      • 166
        Hummpf says:

        “I remember the very first day he said that he did not exploit his family for political gain. Presumably to get a dig in at some interview brother that Cameron must have done.”

        your own wife voluntarily giving a speech at a party conference is a bit different to using your own children in a photo opportunity.


  12. 16
    George Galloway says:

    Ed needs to sort out his nose – it contracts when he breathes in.


  13. 17
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Meanwhile, I see the Falkland Islanders are to get a referendum on their sovereignty. Sky is quoting B1lly Vague as saying: “So the Prime Minister and I support this initiative to demonstrate – without doubt – the definitive view of the Falkland Islands people.”

    How about letting us have a “definitive view” on EU membership, then, B1lly?

    No, thought not.


  14. 20
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    ” Brown was either wilfully ignorant, self-deluded or lying.”

    Whichever of those it was, it is still perjury.


  15. 22
    SAS NOT !!! says:

    You are all over the place. So does this me Ed is a honest man who is trust worthy. Please discuss blue noses.


  16. 23

    Leveson is turning into a bit of a car crash for the old Buffty frae Kirkcaldy and nuLabor.

    I noticed Prudence’s medication has gone to his waistline, or has the Bottler been comfort eating at our expense!


  17. 27
    shooty* says:

    Whoa, hang on: Ed Balls never did negative briefs??!?!

    And no one shouted “bollocks” when he said that?


    • 146
      El Sid says:

      You might think that’s what he said. In fact the question was “Were you aware of off-the-record briefings against Tony Blair and other government ministers by Ed Balls [etc]?”

      So he’s gone for the “no-one told me nuffin” defence. Still, it might be interesting if someone can be found to contradict what the Leader of the Opposition said under oath….


      • 149
        Old Blue Eyes says:

        If it would result in him having to resign as leader of the Labour party no doubt Ed Balls would do it or more likely get someone else to do it.


  18. 28
    Gordon Piaf says:

    Je ne regrette rien


    • 135
      Les Trois Cloches says:

      “All the chapel bells were ringing
      They rang in every British town
      T’was farewell that they were singing
      For our little Gordie Brown,
      And the nation’s population,
      Thanked the Good Lord up above…”


      • 162
        Baldy says:

        ‘…please don’t forget to mention
        the destruction of your pension
        and the freedoms that we love.’


  19. 35
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

    Watching Ed Milibandwagon give evidence or watching paint dry – you choose.


  20. 37
    Gordon Washington Brown says:

    ” I cannot tell a lie…………….convincingly.


    • 122
      Gordon Abraham Lincoln Brown says:

      I HAVE tried to fool all of the people all of the time. It’s just what I do.


      • 147
        South of the M4 says:

        Or more accurately, Barnum Phineas Taylor Brown. Lincoln half-inched it I think.


  21. 38
    Tron says:

    All politicians play with the truth. They only tell you the bits that suit them and they hide or ignore the truth that does not fit their argument.

    Gordon Brown does all this but he goes much further, he tells bare faced lies.

    The press and the political class know it but no one ever tells him this to his face. Everyone skips around this with weasel words.

    His lies went completely unchallenged at Leverson. He always gets away it and we will all be long dead before the truth will come out.


    • 86
      nellnewman says:

      Well he’s going to have a long and miserable life that’s clear, as he’s completely incapable of being normal or happy – so there’s some justice.


  22. 40
    Brown is one creepy fuck says:

    What does Tim Shipman mean Brown was wilfully ignorant, deluded OR lying? He’s all three!


  23. 43
    Penfold says:

    So, who is going to drop McCavity in the 5 H 1 T.


  24. 45
    Brown is one creepy fuck says:





    • 53
      annette curton says:

      In a broom cupboard.


    • 58
      jgm2 says:

      It stopped in America.

      We have the yanks to thank for pulling the pin back in 2007/2008. Look at Ir*e*land. Nobody pulled the pin there until it was too fucking late. Nobody pulled the pin in Greece or Spain either until it was too fucking late. If the yanks hadn’t acted to stop all this insane consumer borrowing and government deficit spending masquerading as ‘growth’ back in 2007/8 then the Maximum Imbecile would have continued blithely marching the UK economy even further down the fucking sh*it*ter.

      No wonder Omaha Beach wouldn’t pick up the phone to the Maximum Imbecile. He was fucking furious getting landed with an economy completely fucked by Greenspan and Bush and having to listen to the Imbecile telling him that it ‘started in America’. When, without the yanks coming to their senses when they did, he’d have marched us off down the road with Ir*e*land and Greece.

      It didn’t start in America. It fucking well stopped in America. We have the yanks to thank for saving us.


      • 87
        Brown is one creepy fuck says:

        It was said that when Obama gave Brown the gift of a Hitchcock DVD boxset, that he’d made an error by getting him a Region 1 boxset. I don’t think it was an error. He did it to piss Brown off. And it can’t have been an accident that the boxset included PSYCHO.


    • 60
      Don LaFontaine says:


      …Harriet Harman as Bluderwoman

      …Ed Balls as The Joker

      …Evette Ball-Scooper as Superboy

      …John Prescott as Judge Dread

      …The Milliband Brothers as The Incrdibles

      …Anthony Charlse Lynton Blais as Captain Marvel


      Toby Benn as the Silver Surfer


      • 81
        Summer cockbusters says:

        Don’t forget…

        Dennis Skinner as THE INCREDULOUS SULK

        Alistair Campbell as TWO-FACE

        Peter Mandelson as BANE (of everyone’s lives)

        Mark Oaten as SCATWOMAN

        and Chris Huhne as MR CLIMATE FREEZE


  25. 46
    Gordon Brown says:

    Well at least you all believed me when I said I saved the World.


  26. 48
    Fish says:

    Aaargh. Harman

    Rattled throught the oath. Anyone would think that she’s had to read it before!


  27. 49
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Well what did Miliband actually say?
    The BBCs Ross Hawlkins will now fawn on and on about how great Miliband was. No mention of Brown being a liar.


  28. 51
    Baron Hogwash says:

    Lets just say Gopher lied – nothing new!


  29. 55
    Gary Elsby Stoke says:

    I’ll bet them newspapers wished they hadn’t exposed our lying tax cheating House of Commons expense fiddling porn watching MPs now.

    like rats in a sack.


    • 63
      annette curton says:

      I would have thought the least we should expect would be a full page apology from them (MPs), in the interests of balance.


  30. 59
    Selohesra says:

    Why is BBC website full of coverage of tories at Leveson but not much detail on Miliband


    • 64
      jgm2 says:

      It’s because of the unique way that they are funded.


    • 66
      Jimmy says:

      Because Leveson is about Tory sleaze.


      • 80
        Jimmy the Dhimmi says:

        There is and never has been Liebour sleaze. Although they do have a monopoly on lies, damned lies and Liebour statistics. Oh yeah, and dodgy dossiers and troughing.


        • 84
          jgm2 says:

          He’s just a troll having a laugh.

          Leave him alone.


          • Jimmy the Dhimmi says:

            Don’t they allow humour on Liebour blogs or is it all politically correct, self-serving ( Polly ) twaddle on the Dark Side ?


          • jgm2 says:

            They only allow ‘humour’ of the ‘all T*ries are baby-eating scum and I can’t wait to dance on Fatcher’s grave’ school of Ben Elton type of humour. Although I don’t think they’re trying to be funny when they say it.

            Anybody who questions their Brownian grasp of reality is ba*nn*ed in very short order and their comments removed from the record. It’s all very Winston Smith over there.


          • Derek Smalls says:

            On a practical note, guys: How do you define a “troll” and how will the impending clampdown affect this blog?
            I feel fairly relaxed about the whole situation at the moment but it doesn’t take much for me to descend into a bad trip, paranoia-wise.


          • jgm2 says:

            Back in the early days of the interweb a ‘troll’ was simply a wind-up merchant on a blog.

            Over in CiF-land a ‘troll’ is anybody who disagrees with the bedwetter group-think.

            And the BBC seem to think a ‘troll’ is somebody who post rude things.

            I still use the original definition.


          • 6079 Smith W says:

            @jgm2 June 12, 2012 at 4:28 pm:

            Shit unhappens.


    • 67
      Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

      Are there more darkies in The Tory Party, dear?


    • 69
      annette curton says:

      Ed is very sketchy.


  31. 65
    Salivating says:

    What’s the max jail time for perjury?


    • 70
      A sentence, I think? says:

      3 or 4 days, probably. Reduced by half for not trying to run out of the garden gate.


      • 116
        Anonymous says:

        Think of a number & then double it for the proles.
        Never found guilty for the politicons.


  32. 72
    Cliff Richard says:

    Blimey. Jay makes declaration about Miliband’s wife demanded earlier by @GuidoFawkes ! #leveson

    “CONGRATULATIONS”………..is this the tune?


  33. 73
    Anyone but Tawny B.liar says:

    Tbh. I was glad to see the back of Tony Bliar. War Mongerer.


    • 88
      David Minibanana says:

      Don’t show my brother your back. He’ll plunge a knife between the shoulder blades.


  34. 82
    bergen says:

    Brown didn’t even need difficult questioning to trip him up.Jay simply asked straightforward generalities and Bonkers happily set sail to fantasy island in response.

    It occurs to me that if the Murdoch version is correct, he will not be able to let that testimony remain unchallenged whilst he retains so many business interests here. If he produces records of these “non existent” telephone conversations with Brown, what will happen if someone makes a formal complaint to Plod about untrue statements made under oath?


    • 164
      Rules of evidence says:

      “It occurs to me that if the Murdoch version is correct”

      So…Evidence is produced to the contrary and you’re still willing to believe that Murdoch’s evidence was the true version and you’re now waiting for this none existent evidence (supporting Murdoch’s version) to turn up!

      Please retreat to your own fantasy island.


  35. 85
    Red Acted says:

    Oh dear what a mess


  36. 90
    beast of islamabad says:


    Was Milliaband under oaf when he said this ?
    Oops I forgot McMental is no longer his boss


  37. 93
    nellnewman says:

    Gordon’s father, an upstanding man of the church, who thought honesty was important above all things, must be turning in his grave .


    • 100
      beast of islamabad says:

      Nell he was a Jockanese and be full of burning pride that his crimanly insane sociopathic son got one over on the English
      Burning in hell the Jock twat


      • 108
        nellnewman says:

        I think what’s really surprising is that gordon continues on this self destructive road to ignominy and public disgrace.

        If he had any friends left you’d think they’d tell him that all he’s doing with this vendetta and venom is destroying what little credibility he has left and that he should give it up and go and get a life.


    • 139
      Reap what they sow says:

      Browns father came from a Church of Scotland which at the time was riddled with marxists and assorted leftists masquerading as Christians. I think you will see a certain consistency there.


    • 157
      Keith Chegwin MP says:

      He’s been powering the National Grid in Jockland for more than a decade now.


  38. 98
    nellnewman says:

    Is leveson going to call alastairdarling? He might have something useful to say about folks like gordon, balls, twatson and the like and those forces of hell he once spoke of.


    • 120
      anonymous says:

      can’t wait to see cameron squirm myself


    • 133
      a non says:

      Only Tone calls Alistair darling Nell


    • 140
      The crazy world of Gordon Brown says:

      He mispoke when he used the phrase “forces of Hell” what he meant to say was the “forces of those who are very forgiving and see the good in everybody”. I trust that clarifies matters.

      Note the above should be spoken and introduced with a forced chuckle.


  39. 102
    Govt_By_Cluster_Fuck says:

    Dunno why the fuss about any one particular politician lying.

    Truth is, they are ALL a bunch of lying ballsacks.

    The sooner we realise this and clear the lot of them out, gravy train and all, the better it will be for everyone.


  40. 105
    UN Dentist says:

    At their recent check-up I was unable to find a tooth in the Heads of The United Nations.


  41. 106
    Red Acted says:

    Oh dear what a meth


  42. 115
    Leveson Farce says:

    Ed Milimong. Imagine all the scheming to be done to keep him in power! Lol, as in not lots of love. :)


  43. 117
    Ed Minidrivel says:

    I willth be Kingth one day


  44. 118
    anonymous says:

    we all know that new labour were/ are shit – what’s the big deal? how about making a critique of the current fascist government of the UK, the coalition????


  45. 119
    Anonymous says:

    Just watched Harriet Harman. I think it must be more interesting to watch paint dry. Talentless, boring, unprepared – again! I think Mr Leveson probably went off for a stiff whisky after listening to her.


    • 129
      Owain Glyndwr says:

      The point is you have to decide wether ay was lying when he stated that he had never met the millibands out of chamber or words to that effect, hope the press are digging up chambers xmas bashes and dinners etc. Very hard to believe that he has not met milliband


  46. 121
    Eton Hopeful says:

    the coalition must be doing so bad that all the tories can talk about is labour – cripes


  47. 122
    Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

    I may have to go for a little lie down, dear.


  48. 124
    gramma says:

    Two out of three in one week is not bad Guido.
    Balls untrustworthy on Monday
    Brown lying confirmed by Ed today.
    Please tell me this will all rub off on Fatson or at least you have irons in the fire for his imminent demise.

    PMQs tomorrow?


  49. 137
    Red Acted says:

    I know nossing


  50. 143
    Hang The Bastards says:

    PaddyPower – 3/1 that Brown gets recalled.

    Just put on £100. Easy money, McMental is going down.


  51. 145

    Both Miliband and Major have torpedoed Brown’s evidence today on spads. Brown was either wilfully ignorant, self-deluded or lying…

    Or all three at once…


  52. 152
    Tolbert says:

    Brown was part of a government without morality.

    But if you think this constitutes perjury you’re very, very wrong.
    No more hysteria, please.


  53. 155
    Jane Birkin from Paris says:

    You should just look at what has been going on in the French Socialist Government today as it makes Ed look sensible.

    They have only been in power a month and the rottweiller is showing her teeth in public with scant regard for Mr President;


  54. 156
    gay gordon says:

    i’m free
    to screw what i want
    any old time


  55. 161
    not now cato says:

    So Brown committed perjury; Jeffrey Archer went to the prison for that.
    Yet Leveson has not commented.

    Is this inquiry straight?


  56. 163
    Rules of evidence says:

    “I would hope not, I have no evidence for that.”

    How on earth can that be construed as lying?

    Even if he knew about briefing because Ed M. had informed him, it doesn’t mean that any evidence of briefing was found. Hence, “I have no evidence for that” would be an accurate statement.

    Had he stated, “I knew nothing about that” or “No-one ever complained to me about that”; the case would be different.

    Brown was evasive on that question, but this is not perjury. Two very different things.


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