January 31st, 2012

+ + + Fred Shredded + + +

As the PM sat down after a tough outing in the Commons, the news breaks that Fred Goodwin was told at 3pm that he had been stripped of his knighthood “by the Queen”. Intriguing timing.

Knighted by Gordon for banking and stripped by Dave for, er, banking.

Another day, another mob win.


  1. 1
    Nelson says:

    HA HA!

  2. 2
    The last Quango in Paris says:

    It won’et be the Tobon Tax that gets the bankers to leave the UK – it will be the press and the reactionary Parliament.

  3. 3
    Shocked of Sheen says:

    Good riddance.

  4. 4
    Gilbert Fiddler says:


    Shreddies = underpants (according to my good friend Yates)!

  5. 5
    Tony Soprano says:

    Long live the mob!

  6. 6
    Tony Bliar is really not a nice person says:

    What about his pension, any chance that gets paid back for gross incompetence ?…………

  7. 7
    Tony Bliar is really not a nice person says:

    Fred was a chancer with no banking background, his type wont be missed……..

  8. 8
    Gordon Brown says:

    it was a disgrace he was knighted in the first place

  9. 9
    GodIHateTheBuggers says:

    When’s Huhne getting prosecuted? Make my day even more perfect.

  10. 10
    Raving Loon says:

    Will Mervyn King be losing his knighthood, or are we not allowed to criticise central bankers, or the central banking system in general? It’s the elephant in the room I tell you!!!

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    jgm2 says:

    I honestly didn’t see that one coming. But now we have a precedent set whereby honours can be revoked without criminal charges even being laid or proven I think it would be an appropriate moment to de-frock (if that’s the word) all those Labour donors and the likes of Prescott, Mandelson, Lady Kinnock, Baroness Ashton and Sp*ea*ker Martin.

    After all, if incompetence is now a crime then that lot are surely front and centre.

  12. 12
    Kneejerk Dave says:

    The Mob is always wrong. That is why Pontius Pilate sought its opinion.

  13. 13
    Tony Bliar is really not a nice person says:

    think you could be onto something there………..

  14. 14
    Golly says:

    Who is next?

    Geoffrey Archer?

    Anthony Eden?

    Norman Tebbit?

    Lord Mandleson

    Goodwin has lost his gong because of the negligent way that he ran RBS.

    Who were the auditors?

    They should be named and shamed too.

    I hope they are not doing any work on FTSE 100 / 250/350 companies.

    The City of London is one of our few assets. the Government should protect it.

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    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    I assume this will be followed by the removal of the peerages of Archer and Lord Cashbox of Belize following last nights revelations that he misled both the party and the Stock Exchange re Johnston International.

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    Desperate Dan says:

    The lying BBC in the form of Norman Smith is claiming that the public are responsible for Fred losing his knighthood. Just like they claimed the public were responsble for the demise of NOTW. Just like they claimed “the public” were responsible for the BBC campaign against Hester. Liars, liars, liars the lot of them.

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    jgm2 says:

    Indeed Mervyn should be fired too. It’s possible he is competent but he clearly sat there and watched the Imbecility destroy the entire UK banking system and the entire UK for that manner and did not resign in disgust and go public. Personally I think he was just holding out for his Knighthood and figured if he didn’t sit there and watch the Maximum Imbecile destroy the UK economy then Brown would have simply got some other jackass to sit there and watch him wreck it.

    My money would have been on that prick David Blanchflower to whom no interest rate is deemed too low.

  18. 18
    Desperate Dan says:

    Goodwin has lost his job, and our money, because Gordon Brown, Ed Balls and Ed Miliband removed all restrictions on what banks are allowed to do with the money in their charge.

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    Jack says:

    Above all

    Brown/Blair/Mandelson who gave him the title in the first place should be shedded and publicly defrocked

    And what about those who bought their peerages from Labour ?

    And the knighthoods to financiers like Ronnie Cohen who financed the Labour gig ??

  20. 20
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Auditors were Deloittes. They should have been dealt with in the same way as Arthur Andersen.

  21. 21
    Bob the Builder says:


    And take away the peerage from the awful “lord” Levy who was the master flogger of titles for the fraud Blair

  22. 22
    Captain Mainwaring says:

    He’s a dead ringer for Steve ‘Interesting’ Davis.

  23. 23
    Another Engineer says:

    Why just Fred? It is definitely the mob.

    What about Sir James Crosby at HBOS?

    I think he should have kept the Knighthood, not for his benefit, but so that we could remember better the stupidity of Maximum Imbecile.

  24. 24
    jgm2 says:

    They didn’t just remove all oversight. They positively egged him on. And any time the borrowing looked like flagging a bit the had the ‘independent’ MPC cut interest rates even further to fan the flames some more.

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    yeah, right.. says:

    Or, perhaps do away with the honours system as a whole.

    It’s always going to be open to corruption and cronyism. And it’s all a bit, well, silly, really.

  26. 26
    yeah, right.. says:

    Fred should take heart from Gerald Ronson. He’s just got his gong and he’s done actual bird.

  27. 27
    Anonymous says:

    I’ve made my mind up now definitely.

    Dave’s happy to shit on his supporters so I can reciprocate.

    So Ken you now have my vote in May.

    Bring it on!

  28. 28
    Who are we ? says:

    This may be the beginning of something bigger

    Abolish the House of Ermin Vermin FFS

    Abolish titles

    Abolish these anto-diluvian ideas of exclusion rather than inclusion…

    And become modern and real about people, with their strengths and weaknesses

    As any intelligent person would say

  29. 29
    AC1 says:

    Tobin tax is suicidally stupid.

    They might as well start charging you income tax when you do something for yourself or family that you could employ someone to do.

  30. 30
    Mark T says:

    So that is two new laws set by precedent in a week, the ability to remove an “honour” and the ability to ride roughshod over a legal contract. Both retrospective and both based on the foulest mix of spite, envy and political opportunism.

  31. 31
    AC1 says:

    Oh shit I’ve just given them an idea now haven’t I?

  32. 32
    jgm2 says:

    Aye, I bet Sir James is a little uncomfortable this evening. Although he seems to have been just out of office long enough to dump the blame for the whole clusterfuck on Andy Hornby.

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    The Public says:

    Yes, and it pisses us off too.

    We used to read NOTW. Sundays are not the same without it. We also read the Daily Mail quite a lot and even the Sun. We have nothing but distain for the Guardian however.

    Most of us couldn’t give a toss about Fred the Shred and haven’t even heard of Hester. Most of us are too busy trying to keep our heads abouve water or bludging the dole and watching X Factor.

    We have spoken.

  34. 34
    Bloke says:

    Why is keeping his fat pension?

  35. 35
    AC1 says:

    Happiness index was more interesting to that fool Blanchflower than sound money (i.e. his job).

  36. 36
    Anonymous says:

    Just who is this mob anyway?

    The media?

    I’ve not heard anyone complain about his being a Sir, or Hester’s bonus… Even on twitter.

    It’s just the BBC and a few newspapers.

    How about we have a phone-in vote before the news is allowed to tell us there is “public outrage”?

  37. 37
    Oh says:

  38. 38
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    What on earth have Chicago and Obama got to do with this thread?

  39. 39
    The Public (of Londonistan) says:

    Ken has your vote? Are you fucking insane?

  40. 40
    AC1 says:

    Don’t forget reserves. Interest rates make borrowing attractive but lowering reserves makes credit increase.

  41. 41
    long snout says:

    What about the other traitorous part of the duo – Brown?

  42. 42
    Rinka Scott says:

    I thought John Major was going to stop all this but look what happened to him.

    interestingly Blair refused any gong and got out of HOC pdq.

    He has made millions since leaving. even more than Margaret Thatcher.

  43. 43
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Does your proposal mean that every time Oik Osborne pleasures himself he will have to pay tax?

  44. 44
    Who are we ? says:


    And abolish the monarchy when this dear Queen passes

    Charlie big ears is a fucking joke

    And Kate and William (a very decent couple of young people) just another example of confused semi-unemplopyed rich youth who have nothing to say to anyone apart from “Hello and how is your jockstrap today” ?

    class, just an old fashioned bourgeois

    Let freedom and euality live in the UK

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    Well it's a thought says:

    It was the “public” who got Fred the shred’s knighthood deleted, what a bag of lieing garbage, it was Liebour and red ed’s gang that thought it was a good idea to screw up , Bliars and Browns little helper.

  46. 46
    AC1 says:

    He must be.

  47. 47
    The Public says:

    Wasn’t us guv. Honest.

  48. 48
    AC1 says:

    Where’s that legislation to recall an MP for another election?

  49. 49
    Thunderbox says:

    Slap in the face for Brown and Balls is more than likely. They gave him the knighthood.

    But there, once upon a time they were the mob.

  50. 50
    Well it's a thought says:

    Jeez, you won the Lotto or something, hope you have sent your money abroad, if that opportunist gets hold of it , you won’t have it for long.

  51. 51
    Selohesra says:

    Who is on this forfeiture committee? – I hope none of thenm have any skeletons in their cupboards

  52. 52
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    When Hornby was appointed the story going round the City was that they had confused him with Andy Haste, the very highly rated and competent boss of RSA.

  53. 53
    Who are we ? says:

    The Royal Family apart from the Queen lack any class as well, just old fashioned excluding bourgois…trying to become “inclusive” which is impossible (we must be sen at the right “charity” gig, etc it “looks” good)

  54. 54
    Golly says:

    Gosh I know people who work for Deloittes.

    They are always working for Central Government and Local Authorities as well as some of those Quangos.

    It is quite worrying really. Luckily Dave Cameron is on the job so he will have sorted it out by Easter.

  55. 55
    Simon Cowl says:

    I can arrange that. 50p a pop.

  56. 56
    Bonking Boris says:

    If you want to vote for Dave’s enemies, you can do no better than me.

  57. 57
    AC1 says:

    You are obviously thinking about sex with MPs far too much. See a shrink, you have a problem.

  58. 58
    Jack says:

    Deloittes are in favour with Dave the rave Coon… I see…FFS

    Huge contract while we pay

  59. 59
    Loonie Penny says:

    Is this tax a fair tax?
    Fairest in the land Miliband only wants idea with ‘fair’ in the title

  60. 60
    Golly says:

    According to Tristram above it was Deloittes.

  61. 61

    Here are a couple of other fat cats to add to the list:



  62. 62
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    They might do that sort of thing in italy when its home improvements. Something I vaguely thought I understood watching something on more4 once.

  63. 63
    Amateur midwife says:

    Boris dear

    You will need to produce a natural Londonistan child before the election to boost your popularity

  64. 64
    Splooge says:

    Splendid news!

    Now then, what about those peers with criminal convictions…

  65. 65
    Tant pis! says:

    Cancelled and annulled – so good she did it twice!

    Her Maj must have been really unhappy with him. perhaps she will reinstitute the block for the likes of Blair and Brown. I will bring my knitting………

  66. 66
    Lord Levy says:

    Can one sell titles for a thumping bung

    And then take away quickly ?

    Just asking

    Sounds like a good business to me

  67. 67
    Moral Collapse Blair in Five Star Hotel in Jerusalem says:

    You should know old boy

    It was your department

  68. 68
    Fiscal Gerrymandering says:

    Fred Goodwin is a good start

    How about taking the honours away from Sir Mervyn King and Lord Adair Turner for gross incompetence of allowing the banks to lend to everyone and creating this mess.

    The FSA and BoE are even more guilty than RBS, Northern Rock and HBOS.

  69. 69
    Well it's a thought says:

    According to the MSM and politicians it was public pressure the wanted it done, nothing to do with using people for your own gains , I mean politicians don’t do that sort of thing , do they ?.

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    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    True in a country like China where reserves are a key tool. However I think you are actually thinking of the banks capital requirements which is a different thing. In the UK there are strict capital requirements (through international forums as well as the BOE) but pure reserves are not a significant instrument.

  71. 71
    Desperate Dan says:

    I just looked up that narrow-minded shrew Rachel Reeves to see if any man was unfortunate enough to be married to her. If seems she’s married to a former Observer journalist who became speechwriter for Gordon Brown and then Gordon awarded him a sinecure in HM Treasury – where he still languishes. No wonder Brown, Balls, Miliband and Mandelson f*cked up the economy if the only qualification for a top job at the Treasury was proven lickspittle to Gordon Brown.

  72. 72
    Only me ! says:

    Does this mean that Lord Prescott will also lose his seat in the Lords, and that Gordon Brown will never get a seat in the Lords. As Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister they are responsible for much more carnage than Sir Fred was ever responsible for.

  73. 73
    Nurse Botha says:

    Take it up with the Daily Mail, dear.

  74. 74
    Well it's a thought says:

    Whoops that was for Mark T at 30.

  75. 75
    The BBC Bias Unit, headcount 14,263 and rising says:

    Fresh from his solo triumph of forcing Stephen Hester to forgo his MASSIVE bonus, Future Prime Minister Ed Miliband today persuaded the Queen to strip Sir Fred Goodwin of his Knighthood. “Yet again, the Pwime Minithter ith totally out of touch with public opinion,” said Darling Ed, “the nathty Torieth protect their banker friendth, Labour ith on the thide of the Britith people.”

    For an analysis of today’s events, here’s Stephanie Flanders: “Yes, yes, oh yes, Ed, Ed, oh fuck me, fuck me, oh yesssssss….”

  76. 76
    lola says:

    One thing you learn about the Great and the Good is that when you meet them they mostly aren’t. This especially includes Knights like Fred was. Personally I couldn’t give a rats arse whether he (or anyone else come to that) is a Knight or not. I am though very exercised by his very comfortable financial situation. If Hester can be srtipped of well earned bonus by the ‘court of public opinion’ then the same court can also strip Fred of his badly earned wonga.

  77. 77
    Kneejerk Dave says:

    POTUS is the president of the USA Tristram Smallbore-Ffips.

  78. 78
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    A reasonable question to your slightly odd proposal. I suppose it may be possible to offset the tax bill against payments to Natalie in Oik’s case.

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    Golly says:

    For months and months Mervyn King has failed to keep inflation within a 2% limit yet he has been knighted for consistent failure.

    when in opposition Dave said that the Governor of BOE should be appointed for one seven year term only so that there was always fresh blood and ideas in this most important post.

    The Socialists gave King a second five year contract.

    if Dave was true to his own beliefs he would have paid off King when he took office .

  80. 80
    AC1 says:


    Gordo the idiot believed debt = growth

    He made sure banks created as much credit as possible.

    London is why AIG failed sparking the whole credit rout.

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    Only me ! says:

    I am not defending Lord Ashcroft but you are extraordinarily naive if you believe anything you see on Panorama – the BBC does not exactly have a good reputation for balanced journalism concering anything to do with the Conservative Party.

  82. 82
    Anonymous says:

    Great news! have a cr@p day MISTER Goodwin!

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    Make Mine Ermine Any Day says:

    Very funny (not) how if your in the private sector you can lose a knighthood.

    If you are criminal lord, quelle surprise, still a lord forever more and on 400 quid a day!!!! So long as you atend, wink, wink.

  85. 85
    On the other hand says:

    I feel sorry for him. He was only doing what came within his nature. If knighthoods were good enough in the old days for pirates and slavers, I see no real reason why he should have his taken away just because of one small silly mistake anybody could have made.

  86. 86
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Boris has produced numerous bastards of every known nationality. Its what makes him a good mayor – he spends far too much time bonking to have any time left to interfere in running London.

  87. 87
    Pentangelis says:

    A small ray of sunshine has just broken through the clouds surrounding me!

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    Anonymous says:

    And what about those lovely guys that gave them the honours, plus all those MPs now in the HoL, various capitains of industry that have run their companies on the rocks and lefty with a big fat pesion when questioned about they say “because I’m worth it”

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    jgm2 says:

    The guy they should be interviewing is Benny Higgins. He fucked off from RBS and then took a look at the books at HBoS and fucked off from there too.

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    Drop a daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Who stripped Red Ed of his human DNA though?

  91. 91

    Its quite a surprise when the government is outfoxed by ‘Inept Ed.’

    Yet who here didn’t see this coming? All of us knew there would be a banker’s bonus outrage. Why on earth didn’t Cameron do a Blairian fix?

    “Hi -yah-Hesty? Its me – Dave. Look, its all getting really heavy on the bonus front. So ..What we’re going to do is say that you get nothing at all. And then we’ll give you a knighthood and write a golden goodbye in to the contract for when you quit..yeah..That’s right..Cash, absolubtley..no crappy shares..A suitcase full..Ok, that’s great ..bye..”

    Dave has managed to allow the party that actually wrote the banker’s contracts AND gave the knighthoods out to be seen as the protectors of the ordinary people.

    Labour’s shameless hypocrisy has paid off.

    You can’t say you weren’t warned Dave. Labour will piss in a glass and sell it as champagne if it gains them another cheap vote. You had the time and power to do something about bonuses and peerages, off your own bat, and be seen as the party that ended the outrages of the last administration. “We’re all in it together.”

    Instead you’ve gone all Obama wasting two years on reforms to healthcare, where there isn’t a single vote gained, but very many lost.

    Bested by inept Ed. How embarrassing.

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I don’t get your analogy actually.

    Frankly: whatever you buy, sell, or do with money, theres plenty of buggers taking more than 0.1% off you.

  93. 93
    Wok Gon says:

    Well he did have awful taste in houses! All that money and he lived in a pile of shit, so to speak, tastewise!

  94. 94
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Take away Sir Stuart Bell-end’s knighthood.

    His attitude to parliamentary troughing was a disgrace.

  95. 95
    Pleading the Fifth says:

    To be fair to Pilate, he asked one of the few men who were in a position to answer him what the truth was, and he declined to answer.

  96. 96
    Brown's Shitstains says:

    What a merchant banker. Goodbye! You won’t be missed.

  97. 97
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    I simply answered the question as to who were the RBS auditors. I made no attempt to allocate blame. It would be a bit like trying to place Mafia members in order of venality.

  98. 98
    nosmo king says:

    Is that gun smoking?

  99. 99
    Smoke 'N Mirrors says:

    All a sham to take you off the scent of bent Lords who are still of course Lords.

    “would require a change of law”, what what, pip pip, no can do!

  100. 100
    AC1 says:

    Yes, they want to punish you for making your home better, working, employing someone, spending (employing by proxy), and investing.

    They won’t tax you if you collect money from unimproved land increases that are nothing to do with you, gamble etc.

    Upside-down topsy turvy world of politicians.

  101. 101
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    If you do not stop being nasty to Violet Elizabeth he’ll thcweam and thcweam and thcweam.

  102. 102

    *** Carlos Tevez, the highly paid striker who refuses to turn up at Man city has had a free transfer to Kirkcaldy.***

  103. 103
    AC1 says:

    I think it much better to restrict the volume of credit, than to punish responses to information.

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    Anonymous says:

    politics is a dirty game as you know and cos honest dave has now fucked us so many times, I thought I’d do the same to him. Bring it on!

  105. 105
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Too true about the great and good. I remember talking to Bob Stewart who described Hurd the Turd as the nastiest little shit he had ever come across. (He was quite complimentary about Major).

  106. 106
    grobdj says:

    It was people like Fred who furthered the idea that financial contracts with his customers should be changeable at the banks will – so it is right that he loses something he thought he might keep

    What other business (apart from financial services) issues such slippery pieces of paper?

    I’m fed up of receiving ‘revised Terms and Conditions’ for any service you buy from a bank

  107. 107
    Mike Forceit says:

    So what are you going to replace the Royal Family with exactly

    Some rollicking socialist ne’er-do-well who will shout his mouth off, raid the treasury and embarrass the country, like Tony Blair?????

    Unless you media whore, lovie darling, blog troll, red streak, anti monarchists can up up with a better idea (which you haven’t up to now), let Charlie and Camilla assume the throne.

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Ah, so she’s going to renegotiate the relationship (*) with the EU?

    (*) Norwegianish options if you like before you start whinging.

  109. 109
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    May be a bit more difficult for Lord Cashbox of Belize to attend in future – at least without being detained at Heathrow.

  110. 110
    Frothend Onsense says:

    Very true. Though looking at him, there is something about Steve Davis that makes me doubt he has ever lent anyone any money?

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    AC1 says:

    Which is why we’re up shit creek. We don’t really have proper reserves (money unlent) which is why we have many of the cost problems in this country.

  112. 112
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Mr Forceit, much as anti-monarchists used to always be lefties, it just so happen that I’ve heard of one that isnt.

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    jgm2 says:


    And whatever the NHS reforms are I have no idea but you can bet it won’t improve anything and will end up costing another fucking fortune.

    And he walked right into it. On the same week he’s playing all populist and blowing hard about giving shareholders ‘more power’ over ‘fat cats’ payrises he brings forward the announcement of Hester’s bonus. What did he think was going to happen? Unless he was hoping that he would get all the kudos for reneging on Hester’s contractual bonus.

    That’s not just a mis-step that’s fucking political suicide. Is he really that clueless?

    I’m amazed Hester doesn’t just walk. Fuck it. he’s probably already set up for life financially. Why become a political football? They came begging to him – not the other way round. If it were me I would just hand in my notice. Even the, no doubt ‘understood’ knighthood/peerage he will have been expecting clearly isn’t something to be counted on either.

    I would walk.

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    Butterfingers says:

    Why hasn’t he been told to re-apply for his job yet?

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    So yet another one of Gordon’ Brown’s great achievements ends in total fucking disaster.

    Anyone want to bet the BBC won’t mention WHO got Fred knighted?

    6PM news is on now, bet Toenails doesn’t mention it.

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    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    We will see in court. The Indie must be rubbing its hands. Wonder if the Judge will admit the DEA files naming Cashbox for flying round the Caribbean with drug lords?

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    Ah! Monika says:

    I feel sorry for The Queen. She probably posts on here and must feel used. Why now? Why just him. He was Knighted for services to banking, presumably also for achievements prior to the fiasco.

    Come on Majesty, tell us what you really think.

  118. 118

    You should check the antecedents of the talking heads used in last night’s Panorama hatchet job on Ashcroft. Googling their names shows the vast majority of them are connected with the BBC/Guardian axis with a little input from that fine unpartisan publication The Independent! Hardly a balanced and fair programme!

    By the look of things, Ashcroft may have grounds for a formal complaint to Ofcom, if not a writ for libel.

  119. 119
    Anonymous says:

    Trouble is there were others involved inthe fiasco, he is the head over the parapet, there were other directors in volved they could have reined the bloke in but didn’t!

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Ha Toenails just said “the last government” what the last Tory government Nick?

    Come on Toenails, Gordon’s gone now you can say “a Gordon Brown fuck up”

    No Toenails just said he was a regular at “Downing Street” what so Cameron was his best mate then?

  121. 121
    AC1 says:

    All thanks to the way the bbc are funded.

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    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Lords Truscott. Snape and Taylor should have been stripped of their peerages for selling legislative amendments. They should have also been sent to prison.

    The fact they were not sums up the stench of corruption surrounding the last Labour government

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    To-the-bin Tax says:

    Say no to Europe and say no to the Tobin Tax!

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    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Not really. Capital is more important because it includes various assets and is a better measure of security. You could have high reserves (by prevailing standards) but low capital and be very vulnerable.

  125. 125
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Yeah but he had his eye on another top job.

    Thank Christ he didn’t get it.

  126. 126
    AC1 says:

    Just dump the NHS is the best reform…

    Give everyone 2000 quid to get BUPA instead.

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Ah Toenails is now suspicious of Cameron’s motives, he’s done nothing wrong not been found guilty of anything, I’m still waiting for the two words “Gordon Brown” to pass his lips.

    Oh dear total fucking fail.


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    Archer Karcher says:

    “Dave’s happy to shit on his supporters”

    Like you care? Why do socialists always lie?

  129. 129
    Well Connected Liar says:

    Not happening mate. Get over it.

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    Strummer says:

    what a load of rubbish. politicians pandering to press & tv hype, and embarrassing the Queen. Us proles couldn’t give a monkeys about his k.

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    jgm2 says:

    Indeed. If the shoe were on the other foot you can bet the BBC would lead with…

    ‘Sir Fred Goodwin, the former banker knighted by David Cameron has had his knighthood revoked by Gordon Brown.’

    Then they’d cut to a vox-pop where a surprisingly articulate and well dressed young lady would give it ‘I think this move by Labour’s Gordon Brown shows how much more he is in touch with the British people Labour are than the last Tory government who were in thrall to the bankers…’

    ‘Thank you – and now, the weather where you are…’

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Funny that Sky News brought up Alex Salmond’s famous well done letter to Ex Sir Fred, the BBC…………..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Thank god we don’t have to rely on the “world’s greatest broadcaster” for the fucking truth.

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Spot on.

  134. 134
    Stephen Hester says:

    Fred did nothing wrong… he was only doing his job… life isn’t worth living if you can’t take risks…

  135. 135
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    The one eyed c u n t s part in the banking collapse has been totally erased from the BBC’s history.

    George Orwell would be proud of them.

  136. 136
    Lord Sir Fred Goodwin says:

    Fuck off sucker. I’ve just changed my name by deed poll to Lord Sir Fred Goodwin.

  137. 137
    Universal Hiss says:

    David Beckham makes lots of cash from his underpants.

    The world has really gone mad.

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    What's a Knighthood Good For, Anyway says:

    Aside from Allen Stanford, an Antiguan citizen (whose knighthood had everything to do with bunging the Antiguan government), every other example of a revoked knighthood I can get from Wikipedia is for a CONVICTION on the charges brought against them:


    D’ya think, like the Yanks, the UK should have a Fifth Amendment that stops the Government from depriving citizens of their life, liberty and (in this case) property without due process of law?


    And don’t hand me any nonsense about Royal Prerogative or “it’s a privilege, not a right!” and hence “not really” property!

  140. 140
    he Public (of Londonistan) says:

    It’s not going to fuck Dave you cretin. IT WILL FUCK LONDON!

    ‘Bring it on” indeed! What a complete fucking tool you are.

  141. 141
    Archer Karcher says:

    Because Cameron is in charge of the government and he employs former Brown shits and Beeboid marxists as advisors.

  142. 142
    Mrs (Formaly Lady) Goodwin says:

    Its ok for you lot to laugh, Ive got to play Monopoly with him tonight!!! And while were at it you can get your eyes off of our pension pot aswell!!!!!!!!

  143. 143
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    What sort of shit is being smoked at the BBC? James Lansdale claimed Cameron was given a torrid time by Labour.

    Really from Red Ed? I think dry piss could give Cameron a harder time.

  144. 144
    Investigate Local Authorities Properly says:

    And still surrounding the Labour Party in opposition. The thefts, corruption, waste and other nonsense which was going on in Labour controlled local authorities is still going on today in Labour controlled local authorities. The failure of the current administration to re-establish the rule of law in some parts of the country’s public adminstration is a continuing scandal.

  145. 145
    The Public (of Londonistan) says:

    Because they have to open their mouths to breath.

  146. 146
    jgm2 says:

    You might not. But a large part of the voting public still believe that the BBC is an impartial voice. Because it keeps telling ‘em how impartial they are and how lucky we all are to have ‘em.

    Envy of the fucking world. We are.

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    see below says:

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    Tick, toc, tick, toc.... says:

    Got summoned back to Rome in disgrace for mismanagement of finances to his ‘advantage’ in 35 Ad (778 ab urbe condita)

    Don’t think Mr P. was a seeker after truth….more you run of the mill sarky cynic on the make.

  149. 149
    Universal Hiss says:

    You are quite right but the cabinet,the labour party,all labour voters should pray for forgiveness for what they have done.

  150. 150
    Ah! Monika says:


    Pupils have been struck by a mysterious Tourette’s-type illness at a school in New York, leaving doctors baffled.
    Up to 15 girls at Le Roy High School have developed the ailment over the past few months.
    It causes twitching and uncontrollable verbal outbursts – including swe aring in some cases.
    Doctors say the symptoms could be due to conversion disorder – once known as mass hysteria.
    Even though it is a psychological condition, the symptoms are real.

  151. 151
    Avocado Bathrooms For All says:

    Its no great loss. You can’t eat and knighthood and they are a bugger to keep clean.

  152. 152
    Desperate Dan says:

    Gordon Brown also sold the freeholds of half Whitehall and half the Mall to the world’s sleaziest crooks and charlatans. Is there any other Western capital in the world who’ve flogged off all their governmental assets? And what did he spend the cash on? It disappeared into the ether.

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    Mike Forceit says:

    AC1 is right

    Gordon Brown (read Ed Balls), Mervyn King and Adair Turner waived debt provision requirements for banks using credit default insurance (from AIG London) to lend with impunity. The banks using credit default insurance expanded their loan books 30% beyond what normal capital adequacy rules should have allowed, because they were no longer responsible if the borrower repaid or not.

    Deleveraging this 30% of over lending is partly responsible for the banks not lending, despite getting funds from the BoE at near ZERO percent.

    This governments main agenda is making sure we don’t find out how bad things really are, how long it will really take to generate growth and how many pounds will need to be printed to deflate £5 trillion worth of debt and liabilities.

  154. 154
    Sir Merv the Printer says:

    How ungrateful can you get. I’ve Q.E.’d 275 billion so far, that is approximately 5000 pounds spending money for you personally.

  155. 155
    Mr. Putin's Stolen Cat says:

    Yes, it’s nice to know Her Majesty is just as open to political gestures as the rest of ‘em.

  156. 156
    Desperate Dan says:

    I’m glad you said that cos I thought I must have missed something. Dave gave a powerful masterclass in how to command the HoC with charm and humour without breaking sweat. Only a man with an agenda would say anything different.

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    Ah! Monika says:

    So true, Sir Hester

  158. 158
    Anonymous says:

    and you my friend are a europhile just like honest dave

  159. 159
    The Public (of Londonistan) says:

    Only the wholly unbiased BBC could have a trollop who has been spit roasted by the two Eds as economics editor. Her grandfather was a communist journalist and everyone else in her family is a tart or a journalist or both.

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    ITV - Its the one for me says:

    They say quite nice things about George Orwell too, in between the Pugsey Appeal bollox and the TV detector van lies.

  161. 161
    Desperate Dan says:

    I wish someone would tell Peter Bone that the Mrs Bone joke has worn a bit thin. In fact it wasn’t very funny in the first place.

  162. 162
    The former Lady Goodwin says:

    Serves the b’stard right.

  163. 163
    Sod em all says:

    Note that the Honours committee doesn’t deal with Peerages, or I would be writing letters now.

    Archer, Truscott Uddin, Taylor, ….

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    Anonymous says:

    I’m very much a UKIP man really and I definitely can’t stand Ken but tha’ts up to honest dave. He must live by his decisions in terms of continually supporting the lib dems in preference to his Tory MPs

  165. 165
    red/yellow/blue = all the fucking same says:

    That’s it, raise your blood pressure! Won’t make fuck all difference.

  166. 166
    The Public (of Londonistan) says:

    Well the Guardian has a CiF poll on it and doesn’t mention Gordon Brown’s part in the debacle.

    How very Graun.

  167. 167
    Sirs Cumference and Kumcision says:

    But I played tennis with Tony.

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    Just to be more specific about the talking heads in last night’s Panorama:-

    Kevin “Toilets” Maguire – no introduction necessary.

    Prem Sikka – described by reporter Declan Lawn as “an expert” and labelled “Professor of Accountancy” is a self avowed Marxist and a regular Guardian contributor. His regular comments about Ashcroft are always accompanied by the sound of political axes being ground.

    Nicholas Shaxson – described as “a Financial Journalist” – the programme didn’t mention that he was employed by The Guardian. He’s also a campaigner for the left wing “Tax Justice Network”.

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    Tick, toc, tick, toc.... says:

    In Greece if you travel around, you might see numerous houses in what look like concrete stilts. The first floor is beautifully finished…marble, shutters, solar on the roof. Two cars on the plot..swimming pool.

    The naive traveller asks ‘Why are they all unfinished?

    Well they are and they aren’t, comes the reply.

    Leaving the ground floor unbuilt means it is not finished for tax purposes.

    No equivalent to council tax to pay, ever.

  170. 170
    The Public (of Londonistan) says:

    Lying by omission is something Toenails has made an artform.

    His body my have been extracted but Robinson’s heat is still a few feet up Gordon’s rectum.

  171. 171
    Julie Davies, tart with a heart says:

    Just don’t abolish my non-teaching teaching post in Hackney.

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    jgm2 says:

    You see, the thing is, if you’d given us all 5,000 quid each then we’d have spent some of it which would have boosted the economy a lot more than sitting on the banks books in lieu of actual assets.

    Personally I’d have spent it going to Tahiti for the October break.


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    The Public (of Londonistan) says:


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    Dic ky Bird is the 2nd graetest unmpire ever ! says:

    It’s a stunt – no-one cares about pseudo-feudal titles, let alone ‘the mob’.

    Politicians (all of them, not just Labour) and their string-pullers in the CBI, the EU and international ‘finance’) created the mess we’re in.

    People say the should be put in jail – but peopke who make the laws and have the laws made for them tend not to end up in the chokey unless they’ve committed the sin of stepping on the wrong toes. What they do to ‘the mob’ matters not.

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    Tick, toc, tick, toc.... says:

    1000 years on a bare mountain in winter, starkers, with devils shoving red-hot pokers up their jaxys would be to good for them.

  176. 176
    For the luverly Doreen Nadis says:

  177. 177
    Sir Digby Chicken Ceasar says:

    Landsdale? The BBC? An agenda?

    Surely NOT!

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Didn’t say that, I said Red Ed didn’t give Cameron a hard time, Red Ed is fucking useless, a real mong would be a better leader of the Liebore party, fuck me Gordon Brown would be better.

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    Anonymous says:

    And just what are you and the so called “Euro-sceptics going to do? Resign?

    You are all hot air, happy to complain and still take the Queens shilling.

    You never “DO” anything concrete and the Integrated Euro juggernaut motors on into a United States of Europe.

    You should resign on mass if you have the balls to do it, which I very much doubt.

    You are nothing less than Tories keeping the Libdems in government and I never voted for that!

  180. 180
    Fred's A-Star says:

    Is that Ann Widdicomb I see?

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    Anonymous says:

    The next person to lose his knighthood should be New Labour supporter, Sir Victor Blank, former Chairman of Lloyds TSB.

    He was greased up at a cocktail party by Gordon Brown (then PM) and persuaded that it would be a good idea for Lloyds — a conservatively-managed and perfectly-solvent bank — to merge with HBOS, which was totally bankrupt.

    The Lloyds CEO, a naive American named Eric Daniels, who believed as all Americans do that bigger is better, agreed to this. The merger was arranged over a weekend, with no due diligence.

    Lloyds Bank has since lost 90% of its value. It is time that Blank at least lost his knighthood.

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    'ER indoors says:

    We are not amused.

  183. 183
    Sir Digby Chicken Ceasar says:

    God I’d hate to be the one to have stolen Putin’s cat.

    Imagine what he’d do to you if you were caught.

    Is it one of those big fluffy white ones beloved of bond villans, or just your ordinary tabby sort of thing?

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    Ah! Monika says:

    “The Drudge Report, which started life as an emailed gossip column, now receives millions of unique visitors per month. One study found that it drives more traffic than Twitter and Facebook combined.”

    Your either ahead of Matt or behind.

    Keep going Guido, still plenty of room for growth.
    Last time I looked there was no 0rder-0rder link on Drudge. Why not?

  185. 185
    Fabians are Evil says:

    Ok that’s Fred sorted – now how about the REAL cretins who completely fu**ed up both the social and economic well being of the UK?

    Yes! – Brown, Darling and Balls

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    Archer Karcher says:

    They sound like a rather typical bunch of lefty chancers liars and do as I say hypocrites. No wonder the ZaNu moonbats are frothing, chuck shit, some might stick, if not chuck some more school of journalism garbage.

  187. 187
    JJ Rousseau says:

    It’s the ‘general will’

    What’s the general will, you ask?

    It’s what I say it is in a very loud voice, indeed.

    Because some of us are attuned to these things.

    Especially me.


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    Pleading the Fifth says:

    No doubt you are right, but it doesn’t explain why the defendant failed to address the issues which were foremost on the judge’s mind shortly before he retired to deliver his verdict. Not very smart behaviour by the son of the omniscient one.

  189. 189
    Sir Digby Chicken Ceasar says:

    His brother Tony is a Labour-supporting cu nt as well.

    Fucking Time Team, going around digging up unsuspecting peoples gardens and ooohing over a few fucking grimy pot sherds.

  190. 190
    Archer Karcher says:

    Why not reinstate surcharging, disqualification and prison for local government? It worked last time around.

  191. 191
    Sir William Waad says:

    A Tobin tax would fall on those who wish to undertake real transactions, such as you and I through pension funds and so on. It would not fall on speculators or anybody else concerned only with meta-assets. Ultimately, like all taxes, it would be a transfer of funds from the productive to the unproductive.

  192. 192
    Batty Hattie says:

    He was made a knight because of his tireless and dedicated work for underprivileged children, and was made Chairman/person of the Prince’s Trust in 2003. Nothing to do with banking. Gordon told me.

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    ToonBob... says:

    What is Missus Fred going to say about this?? She will be livid !!

  194. 194
    The Public says:

    Look here!

    We would gladly sell our women folk and children into bondage to support the BBC.

    It’s a national treasure and the envy of the world (after the NHS of course).

  195. 195
    mike lewis says:

    Kevin Maguire has his head right up the Arse of the BBC.
    He is a joke:a scruffy joke at that.

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    Marmite says:

    I noticed that too.

    Is bone a bore?

  197. 197
    Archer Karcher says:

    Dear god the clown imagines it’s 1995 again and anyone could actually give a fcuk.

  198. 198
    Sir William Waad says:

    What’s six inches long and smells of ginger?

  199. 199
    Gonk says:

    They should be careful. Invoking the mob can have all sorts
    of unintended consequences.

  200. 200
    Office World says:

    Forget Shred and Shredders – they are so 2010.

    MEMORY HOLES are where it’s at.

    We are pleased to offer the latest Samsung M1984 Memory Hole (as endorsed BBC) for only £399.95 inc. VAT.

    Never suffer from inconvenient historical facts again.


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    Future PM. says:

    Funny how bankers are shouldering most of the blame when the real problem is with society.

    Anyone could’ve seen that the economic boom was not sustainable and would eventually crash. Quite a few people predicted this, however the majority did not want to listen. They recklessly borrowed money solely based on the increase of value in their house, and the majority did not take enough responsibility in managing their own personal finances.

    The bankers deserve criticism most definitely, but if society REALLY wants to put an end to the so-called “crony capitalism”, then we need to take a harder look at ourselves, who not only stood by when this was happening but actively reinforced it by purchasing goods that we could not afford.

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    BBC timeline.
    2004 -Fred Shred knighted by Thatcher
    2005 – Doctor who returns
    2006 – Blair the bastard resigns
    2007 Gordon Brown slays Norman Tebbitt in combat – becomes PM
    2008 – Tory voting bankers destroy world.
    2009 – Anton du Beke made a racial slur – Panic at BBC for a year
    2010 – Labour voters barred from voting booth cause Tory victory
    2011 – Chaos, anarchy, riots, cuts, death.
    2012 – Ed Miliband, whilst still in opposition, ends banker bonuses and knighthoods for failure. 3 day bank holiday announced.
    {Dimbelby’s £166,666 an episode of Question Time contract finally signed in secret}

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    Universal Hiss says:

    Well as long as BUPA train all their surgeons,doctors,nurses, et al themselves & not piggyback on the NHS,I agree.

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    Archer Karcher says:

    0.1% is the starting point, don’t play stupid games.

    Everyone knows what the game is about, establishing the principle and then ratcheting it up incrementally. As with ALL tax, the only person who pays it, is the end user, the public.

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    Archer Karcher says:


  206. 206
    Anonymous says:

    “Mob win” = democracy.
    Do you have a problem with democracy, Guido?

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    Anthony Blair says:

    And the convicted criminal Archer remains a Lord. Odd, eh? As well as the expenses fiddlers.

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    Mervyn King's butler says:

    ‘Crony capitalism’? There’s no other kind!

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    Norris Stampton says:

    Another victory for the BBC party

  210. 210
    Geraldine says:

    Ah the politics of envy just like that union tosser Bob Crow.

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    Why did I ever bother to save says:

    Sir Merv always said 2% next year.

    But like tomorrow, next year never comes.

    Clever fellow, what!

  212. 212
    Perse O'Nally says:

    If you are one of those who vote the insane newt-lover into power then, quite frankly, you deserve everything you get and more. Thank God I don’t live in London.

  213. 213
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    An excellent chronology Bill.

    Ah, the Dimbleby clan. Just goes to show there is no place for blatent nepotism at the BBC. Dad was good but the lads are tossers.

  214. 214
    Perse O'Nally says:

    You’re not voting for Dave, you cretin…you’re voting for Boris…is that too hard for you to understand?

  215. 215
    Perse O'Nally says:

    Roger the cabin boy……oh sorry, wrong joke!

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    Anonymous says:

    “on mass” – is that supposed to be “irony” in the circumstances!?

  217. 217
    Perse O'Nally says:

    The Hirogen..mighty hunters they!

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    Phil says:

    Corruption in office at it’s most vile and what did they get for offering legislative amendments at 100k a bung? 6 months paid gardening leave. That alone should condemn anyone of sound mind from ever thinking of voting Labour ever again.

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    SCOTLAND’S first minister Alex Salmond’s enthusiastic backing of Royal Bank of Scotland’s disastrous takeover of ABN Amro returned to haunt him yesterday.

    A letter, released yesterday, shows that Salmond wrote to RBS boss Sir Fred Goodwin (pictured) in May 2007 to throw his weight behind the bank’s disastrous purchase.

    Signing the note, “Yours for Scotland”, Salmond said he “would like to offer any assistance my office can provide”.

    Scotland’s secretary for finance, John Swinney, said in a separate letter at the time that the deal was “an enormous achievement for RBS” that helped make Scotland seem “an attractive place to do business”.

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    I’m going to have his knighthood, I deserve it I am the great leader.

  221. 221
    Anonymous says:

    Hang on, you missed out where Ed closed down the Murdoch empire last summer. I never actually saw the story anywhere, but he did apparently as the Beeb always credit him with it.

  222. 222
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    That’s Altzheimers, isn’t it?

  223. 223
    The Doddering Old Fart. says:

    Mrs Shred, hearing the front door open shouts downstairs, “Had a good day at the office dear?”

  224. 224
    Carlos Marxite says:

    First the mob came for the troughing politicians
    and I didn’t speak out coz I wasn’t a politician.

    Then the mob came for the troughing bankers

  225. 225
    annette curton says:

    Good job Lillybet can smell a wrong ‘un.

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    ToonBob... says:

    the Royal Bank of Scotland ….. wonder which party bailed them oot ??

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    Fabians are Evil says:

    Tell you what Gordon -if you and that bully boy Balls are so wonderful how about proving it by going off to Greece and sorting that socialist train wreck out?

    I feel sure that you would love a period in a socialist utopia

  228. 228
    The BBC Bias Unit, headcount 14,263 and rising says:

    No, ‘heat’ is about right.

  229. 229
    Universal Hiss says:

    Mrs.Shred fucked off a couple of years ago with probably half your money.

  230. 230
    The Doddering Old Fart. says:

    She should be able to, she’s had enough of em round her.

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    not a machine says:

    It was a good line , however as the questions unfolded that line of they have had 53 days to declare there position , eroded it away suffciently and quell suprise shadow chancer agrees with Dave . The question I was perhaps more interested in is if Simon Hughes agrees with Mr Stringer , although the IMF one did bubble away even though there is still no plan on the table for the eurozone .
    I took a great deal of heart that there is still some in good numbers who whilst attentive to party , still hold a sufficently independent mind to comprehend that eurozone troubles are an important matter , it wasnt tub thumping dinosaur as no doubt some were hoping for , to stretch Dave , but that sense of being a member of the UK parliament .
    The nub is that the EU is somthing different to the eurozone , the common market a foundation to all members , the eurozone somthing of as yet uncharged folly , which is being sold as a must have . The EU is the foundation , the eurozone a somewhat yobbish , and certainly so far a very unpleasant ride for those trapped in it .
    I looked upon it as though some foreign matters had been agreed , but Dave had nothing to report , as there was nothing on the table on the eurozone ergo Dave vetoing the incorporparation of the eurozone into the structures of the EU is a perhaps a democratic position in defending the older and more foundational of treaties from a chancers and userpers , who are warping matters and democracy , with placemen ,due to financial problems entirely of and on there own watch and measures .

    Even towards the end Dave was still batting them off , and Nick Cleggs early departure , which I assume was out of urgency rather than boredom or seeing defeat , had labour chirping “goodbye , goodbye”

    Ed really does now have to have a position , Dave is not outside the door , he is outside the eurozone debt and the mechanisms causing it, hard to thank both him and those who see that his stance has merit in uninteresting news , but he was defending not only the British interest , but somthing else beyond it agreed many years ago .Even paid up europhiles perhaps would not wish to fall on that sword !

    We await the true picture of the eurozone debts (still increasing) and the actions of any as yet undeclared remedy , as I see it Madme Legardes bag has a very large hole in the bottom where money may go , without being sure of its destination or test if it is the cure or the wonk face saving placebo.

  232. 232
    Anonymous Misogynist says:

    Myners, McKillop & Blank to name but three more…B’stards all..!

  233. 233
    Dan Brown says:

    … The astonished scientists at the Vatican’s bio-lab watched as the DNA transcription machine chewed through Millband’s cellular makeup. At first the familar pattern of human DNA was discernable – ATGCGT GTTAGT TATAAT AAGCTC and so on and on and on.

    The Pontif relaxed slightly as the chief Vatican biologist, Monsignor Sergio Scaglietti, explained that Milliband did not, in fact, posess the DNA of Satan.

    Suddenly, the transcription machine broke from it’s famillar stream of A’s C’s G’s and T’s as the letters of the Milliband DNA formed themselves into the opening sentence of Marx’s Das Kapital…


  234. 234
    The BBC Bias Unit, headcount 14,263 and rising says:

    It’s not even original; David ‘Scrubber’ Evans used to precede his questions with “Mis’er Spe@’er, Janice wants to know…”

  235. 235
    The Doddering Old Fart. says:

    Ah,so between Mrs Fart and Mrs Shred they’ve had the fucking lot.

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    not a machine says:

    I would think the current weeks private eye cover will go down as a classic , no pun intended :)

  237. 237
    Blowhard watch says:

    Personally I would pay you £5000 if youd stay there.

  238. 238
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Tick, toc, tick, toc

    This is not true. I live in Greece and everyone has had to pay quite a lot of extra t*xes on every home they own. I’m not talking peanuts either. These t*xes have run into hundreds of pounds.

  239. 239
    ToonBob... says:

    Will Costa alot ??

  240. 240
    I don't need no doctor says:

    What does Ed Miliband stand for, opportunism, bandwagoning, denial. Does anyone know?

  241. 241
    annette curton says:

    Well its inevitable, call him Sir David Dimbelby shortly.

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    Why did I ever bother to save says:

    In 1999, Fred, then group deputy chief executive, chaired a Treasury taskforce on credit unions. he became a regular visitor to 11 Downing Street and a valued adviser to Chancellor, Gordon Brown (Labour)

    In 2004, Fred received his knighthood, on the advice of Mr Gordon Brown (Labour), for services to banking.

    In 2006, Sir Fred became a member of the chancellor, Gordon Brown (Labour) ‘s International Business Advisory Council.

    In 2009, Gordon Brown (Labour Prime Minister) refused to say whether Sir Fred should lose his knighthood. ‘It is not for me to talk about what action, for example the Financial Services Authority, or any other authority, takes,’ he said.

    In 2012, Sir Fred became plain Fred.

    Gordon and Fred.

    A dream team. A British nightmare.


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    Universal Hiss says:

    I saw Simon Hughes in your post ,poked my eyes out so can nolonger tyg flornly.

  244. 244
    Observer says:

    Will there be any loss of rank or honour for those members of the political class in Edinburgh and London who nominated Fred Goodwin for his knighthood? Gordon Brown, for instance?

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    not a machine says:

    mmm perhaps your right , maybee not such a good one , with bodies still not buried , fine line where inncoent deaths are involved . but then the media has been all about said person idiotic actions rather than numbers dead . I think I will withdraw that one .

  246. 246
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Sorry guys; having Cashbox on board only gives the opposition an easy target. Get rid of him. You may not like last nights programme but look up the DEA material.

  247. 247
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    VDS – any reason for not commenting on Archer (other than the unbearable memories of his’novels’ it may provoke)?

  248. 248
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Why not ‘King Fred Goodwin?

  249. 249
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    If it were about 1995 you may have a point…..

  250. 250
    annette curton says:

    Hard working families, fairness and tortured vowel sounds, in his spare time he likes to experiment with the mystery of the pictures that come in a box of Terry’s All Gold.

  251. 251
    not a machine says:

    Interesting though isnt , thing is burning infront of Uk europhiles faces , and they say nothing about responsibility or the suffering there folly has caused !

  252. 252
    Gordon McSnotgobbler says:

    Och! Ma wee bairn bonnie bank o’ Scotland! Ah must n’ea let ‘em fail, och noo! Ah’ll dip ma wee thievin’ fingers into evil England’s trooser pockets, hoots mon, an’ use ma’ stolen Sassanach cash to keep ma wee bonnie bank afloot, och the noo, hoots etc.

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    Ed Explains says:

    I am ordering a guillotine for the mob to use in my next kwusade.

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    Anonymous says:

    Let’s just remind ourselves who exactly awarded Fred with the knighthood..

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    Anonymous says:

    Milliband and his advisors are banking on the majority of voters not examining it that deeply.
    And they would be right.

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    Anon says:

    I’m not sure Gordon Brown has any rank or honour to lose.

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    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    So let me understand the proposal. You give everyone £2000 making £120 billion compared with the current NHS budget of £106 billion. You also have to transfer existing NHS assets to private providers (in a fire sale) losing more money. AC1 – with accountancy skills like that I identify you as one of Gordon Browns minions!

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    Dianne Abbot says:


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    The Angry Mob says:

    Excellent, we’ll be needing that when we execute everyone who supports the cuts.

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    A Brane Surgeon says: says:

    It’s hardly Rocket Science………

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    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Tend to agree it is a bit biased but why are we bothered about anyone (bbc or anyone else) having a go at the Scottish oil slick?

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    Anonymous says:

    What time do you Pilgrims clock off?

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    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Perhaps we should have a list of convicted felons not relieved of their awards. 4 years for perjury – no problem Lord Archer.

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    David laws Lib Dem fiddler says:

    How many more deserved to be stripped of their titles? Michael Martin resigned as speaker and was ennobled straight away- why? Mandleson was forced to resign why was he given a title if it was not only to get him back in cabinet. Is that a good enough reason? Prescott, Ashdown, Steele and all the former MPs what have they done?

    Dr Leigh recently nominated and approved for a knighthood for services to enlarge the EU?? How many people would agree with this??

  265. 265
    Pudsey Bear says:

    It’s PUDSEY BEAR! P U D S E Y geddit you senile old fuck?

    You call me ‘Pugsey’ one more time and I’ll send my TV Detector Van goons round to properly sort you.

    Do you know how I lost this eye? eh?

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    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Good lord. A diagnosis at last for Ed.

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    Council for the Defence says:

    I believe it’s called ‘Rap Music’ M’Lud.

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    Universal Hiss says:

    I’m so angry about everything political,economical,moral,the vileness of most MPS & MEPS I can no longer engage with my rage unless I give myself hypertension & an early death.

    So,living in Scotland I curse all & vote SNP while cursing all who sail in SNP.

    What a fucking joke.

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    Council for the Defence says:

    Buckingham Palace Dining Room, 8pm: –

    Betty: Phil? Have you done a wrong ‘un again?

    Phil: Not me Bett.

    Betty: The smell is awful Philip. You really should see the Royal Physician.

    Phil: It’s those fucking corgis woman!

    Betty: Very well Phil, very well.

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    Baron Hogwash says:

    The blame game – all Fred did was under the noses of Gordon and labour, the BoE, the FSA and anyone stripped them of anything?

  271. 271
    Gordon Brown says:

    Lazy cow.

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    Universal Hiss says:

    I wonder why hard working single people never get a mention?

    Utter soundbite bollox.

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    Gobbets Raw says:

    Two Balls. one a bit lower than the brother.

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    East Ender says:

    Wake up fatty, your constituents want you to do something useful. People from Hackney are having some of the open green belt land in the Lea valley pinched off them by the Olympics organisers because they are too witless to use the nearvy available brownfeld sites and un-used playing fields properly.


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    Moscow Mike Handycock CBE (sex Tourist on Taxpayer's money) says:

    I hope my namesake doesn’t start looking at my honour, granted for ‘services to charity,’ when the charity I worked for, Mencap, sacked me. If the truth were known, the real reason for my honour should read ‘to stop him grassing up the Liberal Democrat party.’ Perhaps I will get my long desired peerage for the same reason? Jahbulon.

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    nellnewman says:

    Absolutely the Right Decision.

    So long as Dave and any subsequent government NEVER offers a Knighthood to the economically incontinent gordy!!

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    Anonymous says:

    Well, the public stripped them entirely of their credibility … obviously this doesn’t stop them popping up on our screens now and again telling us how clever they are and how they’d fix it … Cameron should do a Shirley Porter on Brown and others IMO.

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    Well it's a thought says:

    Shhh, don’t tell the thick public where the real blame lies.

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    Tachybaptus says:

    He could hardly be more rank.

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    annette curton says:

    What happened to the one with the whole Hazelnut?.

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    My dream is to make Scotland like Greece

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    Spanky and Our Gang says:

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    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Archer should have lost his as well. At least he was punished by the legal system for his crimes.

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    Boudicca says:

    Baroness Uddin deserves to be stripped of her title.

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    R Spritz says:

    I doubt that many people in the UK have much respect for ‘honours’ any more. I find it ludicrous that people like rock stars get knighthoods for pursuing their own self centred careers. There was a time when entertainers got gongs for decades of exceptional charity work rather than being very successful at selling their ‘art’.

    As far as I am concerned, buffoons like Prescott can take their place in the queue like any other person of average merit.

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    BBC Director General says:

    Completely untrue. We have double checked the facts and we will be reporting the unvarnished truth that it was David Cameron who awarded Fred Goodwin his knighthood and in fact it was Cameron and George Osborne that were responsible for the collapse of RBS & HBOS.

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    Moscow Mike Handycock CBE (sex Tourist on Taxpayer's money) says:

    We can’t bring that in, as Nick knows I will be finished, and then drop them all in the shit. Boaz.

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    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Gordon and Fred as wanted as being stuck in a lift with a pile of wet shit and fresh vomit.

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    Boudicca says:

    Agreed- it’s a classic Private Eye cover.

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    Lord Handycock of Moscow says:

    Must be Billy, such appalling spelling.

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    annette curton says:

    The super absorbent pamper.

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    Universal Hiss says:

    I read somewhere that one third of honours go to senior civil servants.Too lazy to look up the stats.

    Yes Minister/Prime Minister was not a comedy,more a documentary.

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    Lord Wayne of trombone says:

    Ooooh handbag

    we take away a meaningless honour

    big fucking cheesecakes

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    The Royal Bank of Scotland is not far off three centuries old and used to be run as one of the most careful but canny banking businesses in the UK.

    Along came Fred the Shed, without any experience of banking, and destroyed everything it had stood for in just 8 short years.

    I dislike mob justice but, on this count, the mob is entirely correct.

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    Pawn Sandwich says:

    When you compare Hester to Tony Blair then yes, looks like Hester is grossly underpaid.

    Nice one RedEd, you cost the RBS shareholders £700 million in market capitalisation and as well denied the inland revenue of £500,000 on the bonus that Hester would have recieved.

    Considering the clusterfuck that you expect Hester to dig RBS out of (on behalf of the taxpayer) then he should get his just rewards.

    Socialism is the politics of spite and envy.

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    Lord Wayne of trombone says:

    Uddin just deserves to be stripped

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    Golly says:

    What I do not understand is that the deknighting of Goodwin was taken by a committee completely independent of Government i.e. nothing to do with Dave.

    such matters are normally reported in the London Gazette so why was the Announcement made by the Government ahead of the Notice in the Gazette?

    Not a major point I know but a Government grandstanding for a bit of popular publicity when 2.5 million are unemployed chasing jobs which do not exist is not a particularly edifying sight.

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    Universal Hiss says:

    but the BBC are not keen to inform viewers that the DG trousers £750,000 each year,every year.

    and then all the other executive wankers on only £200,000 but there are 45 of them.


    Meanwhile the lovies think that Birdsong was good.

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    Roundell says:

    “average merit” – I Think you are over stating his case

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    I have long said that the BBC should have a banking solution. Split it into a good BBC and a bad BBC.

    The good part can be sold to reduce our debt by some £20bn. The bad part can be gifted to the Scotch Parliament.

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    Universal Hiss says:

    Smiles at the last part.

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    Wheeltappers and Shunters says:

    Why not Ken Goodwin?

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    I don't need no doctor says:

    Is the BBC a predator or a producer?

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    AC1 says:

    Think of the savings in lives. As you are a lefty I know you cannot empathise but do try.

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    AC1 says:

    Actually you’re 100% wrong on that.

    You’d still have massive SYSTEMATIC credit. Due to credit looping (which only un-lent reserves prevent).

    So the volume of credit pulls down lending rates, below the natural risk level and then at some point later the banking system becomes insolvent…

    This isn’t tricky maths (except for a lefty).

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    nellnewman says:

    What d’ya mean Guido ‘another mob win’ !!

    You are not suggesting surely that fredtheshred should keep his gordy given honours!!

    what the heck! let’s make bob’looking out for myself’crow a lord why don’t we??!!

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    AC1 says:

    Predator, It takes your money whether you want their product or not.

    The BBC license fee is like a tax on letter boxes to fund junk mail.

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    Mr Slater's Parrot says:

    SSKKWWEEEEEE-EET!!! AWK!! (shudder)

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    Mike Hunt says:

    Sounds fair enough to me.

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    Universal Hiss says:

    Both I think. It threatens the whole of the UK population with imprisonment if one does not pay a tax just by owning a TV.

    It produces television that is often second rate to rival chav tv.

    It’s over run by lameists,feminists,communists. Lots of ists.

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    AC1 says:


    Build BUILD BUILD.

    London needs houses. There’s 95% left of Britain (and that doesn’t include gardens and urban parks).

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    nellnewman says:

    “de knighting goodwin was a decision taken by a committee completely independent of government ”

    I don’t think so!!

    If m ilitwit was PM d’ya really think he would have done that given the political flack for a labour government??

    Doubt it!!

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    NOOOOOO!!!!! says:


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    Tony Blair says:

    I think it’s disgusting that the Tories knighted Fred Goodwin for banking. But under my strong leadership, Labour have stripped him of the honour.

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    Tory Cat says:

    I reckon Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps is 8!lly because every time he makes a sh!t comment Guido removes the reply function which is what he used to do when 8″lly made a sh!t comment so that we couldn’t te@r him a new one.

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    Mike Hunt says:

    But it got him a good headline, that was Tony B£iar’s aim with everything he did.

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    Bird with small brain says:

    Who are you calling the mob? I – and approximately sixty-five million of my fellow citizens – have been merely spectating at this unedifying double bear-baiting debacle.

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    Mark Oaten's Chums says:

    So did we…

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    Splendid Idea ! says:

    Sound policies for a better Britain

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    Universal Hiss says:

    It’s about time this was all knocked on the head.Political placemen,rogues,thieves,BBC communists & a few normal people who did good.

    & while we are at it,no more money for the royals.

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    8i11y 8owd4n i5 7he VVor1d5 6re@test Ump1re ! says:

    Cheazekake Rokks!

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    BBC says:

    You’re so right Tony!
    BTW we hate you, but we love you. You are just the sort of socialist we love. A right wing socialist. Come back..no stay away..no..come back and let us caress you again.

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    ¡ ǝɹıdɯn ʇsǝʇɐǝɹƃ s,plɹoʍ ǝɥʇ sı uǝpʍoq ʎllıq says:

    Impostor! The real Billy is in Oz

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    I was not calling anyone that. Our host was and I was responding to that part of his intro.

    Lest it be thought that all “mob” judgments were bad, I was just saying as a former industry insider, who walked away from it all in 2000, that this one was not only right but overdue. Clearly it would have been better if we had avoided the whole thing.

    But no one saw it coming could be the retort.

    Well I did. I sold up and got out. If I could see it happening, why couldn’t all these so-called experts?

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    bring me the head of martin schulz says:

    Nigel Farage doing his Mystic Meg bit.

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    Fred in his shed says:

    What about Sir Tom McKillop?

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    Tachybaptus says:

    Just taking the idea of movable type a bit further.

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    Universal Hiss says:

    I think I missed that on the BBC.

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    The real villain says:

    Let’s face it Gordon Brown did far more damage than Fred the shred ever did.

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    I don't need no doctor says:

    Gordon Brown should, at the very least, resign as an MP.

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    Anon says:

    For a moment, I thought that figure was Laurie Penny, marching with Communist Zeal (or National Socialist Ardour) towards her brave dystopian clod-headed 6th-form future.

    But then I realised the figure has a well-proportioned pair of tits.

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    Ivor Tapeworm says:

    Common Purpose.

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    Fish says:

    Not true AH was a good guy.

    But jgm2 is rather perceptive. People at the top just stuck their fingers in their ears when they were told things they didn’t like…or worse sacked those who warned them of the risks they were taking.

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    annette curton says:

    And relinquish £65,000 a year and all found plus a golden pension clocking faster than dickory dock for sod all?, you really do need to see a doctor.

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    Ed Ballsup says:

    And who was standing behind him, goading him on?

    “Go on, Gordon! Sell the gold! Ignore the critics, Gordon, sell it! Sell it! 395 tonnes of it! Sell it for nothing, Gordon!”

    “Yes, Gordon, destroy private pension schemes! You can do it, Gordon! Destroy them! They’ve only been bought by Private Sector scum, after all, Gordon!”

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    Bird with small brain says:

    Thanks. What I am really reacting to is the idea that politicians and decision-makers in general ‘must ‘ respond to the wishes of the masses in every case. One opinion multiplied ten million times can still be as brilliant or as stupid as one solitary opinion. I fear that in the era of social media we are going to have some pretty ropey decision-making. Having voted for someone to make decisions on my behalf, I want them to tell me and everyone else to fuck off when we have ideas based on little or no understanding of the issues.

  340. 340
    Ivor Tapeworm says:

    I don’t understand how you can make all species out of C G A and T.

    All I can make is CAT.

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    The State Education Scam says:

    I had no idea that schools could teach nail clipping and claim that a successful clip was equivalent to a GSE. Little wonder then that GCSE pass rates were going up.

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    Ivor Tapeworm says:

    Well the NHS just nicks them from third-world countries.

    All that guff about the virtues of foreign aid and we get their doctors and nurses trained at someone else’s expense.

    How ethical.

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    Fish says:

    Was watching Smith’s work today. His description of Cameron’s statement was wide of the mark and completely unbalanced.

    I don’t know Smith so then watched his poliitical review of 2011. It was baltelntly unbalanced, 21mins of the govts travails, 3mins perfunctory look at Miliband.

    From here on in he will be known as the left leaning Norman Smith.

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    Universal Hiss says:

    From my perch I saw a few people say it was coming & they were laughed at.

    Similar to the global warming scam.

    Most economists,politicians,bankers & mathematicians were so entranced by their ideas of making billions they lost touch with any sense of reality.

    In this nasty case the market was interfered with.True market forces would have seen the failure of some/many? banks. Would this have been a bad thing?

    Would the failure & bankruptcy of Northern Rock been a wake-up call for the likes of RBS?

  345. 345
    Universal Hiss says:

    Why are my last two serious posts being moderated?

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    Pawn Sandwich says:

    Gordon Brown was an evil man in my opinion. No one could be as stupid (even in hindsight) as him, spend spend spend was all he could do.

    Useless chancellor, useless Prime Minister and useless MP. The BBC however did report on “Gordon Browns Economic Miracle”, google it.

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    Sherlock says:

    All Archer did was lie about shagging a whore.
    No-one died. No-one lost any money. No voter was inconvenienced.
    He was stupid to lie under oath, that’s all.

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    MandyPickleSniffer says:

    A sad day for Britain.
    Where does this Mob Rule end?
    Will they go after all the rest of the people who received honours but who were subsequently not quite as saintly as one would have hoped?
    Should Jeffrey Archer be nervous? Should Mandelson? Retroactively moving the goal posts…that’s something that Labour was always good at (lke reneging on Hester’s contract which THEY wrote up and signed!).
    God help us all, we’re going back to Michael Foot and that whole sinking ship….

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    ping pong says:

    I note the technology doesn’t extend to full frontal yet.

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    Adolf says:

    Why not Godwin?

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    I have considerable sympathy with you point. You can probably tell that there is a but coming:

    But we have recently witnessed 13 years where they have told you, me and everyone else to fuck off when they have ideas based solely on little or no understanding of the issues.

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    tell it like it really is says:

    Talking of the bbc – why is that shyster, totally unable to run a business without it ending in bankrupcy, Will Hutton constantly being feted on bbc programmes to comment on – business.

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    Oh FFS says:

    “… exclusion rather than inclusion”

    you’re going to start wittering on about diversity and community in a minute, aren’t you?

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    Ed Ballsup says:

    Interesting result from September 2005:

    “Ed Balls was with Gordon Brown every step of the way until he became MP for Normanton in May 2005. Now Ken Clarke calls him the chancellor’s representative on Planet Earth. I asked him whether he was disappointed by Britain’s continued low productivity and widening trade gap.

    He assured me that we were making progress. “There’s an ability for people to plan ahead, invest in the future, which we’ve not seen in the last 20 to 30 years.””


    And less than two years later, Britain’s economy collapsed.

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    The Pope says:

    He’s a cheeky chap!

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    Universal Hiss says:

    “They” give in to public opinion when it suits.

    From what I read the biggest swell in public opinion is for an in/out referendum on EU membership.

    This is ignored.

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    Synic says:

    What else can the illiterate innumerate over paid over pensioned incompetent teachers arrange for the children to discover through play? The state education system has collapsed.

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    Do keep up says:

    I agree, London needs housing. I could list loads of places where it would be a good idea to build some, but this place is called Leyton marsh for a reason. It floods. Better to build somewhere else.

    This application incidentally is not about housing, it is about putting up an indoor training area for basketall players.

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    tell it like it really is says:

    There is an absolutely fantastic curse on written out in the Carlisle museum originally written for use against the border reivers it should cover all present categories…….Tully museum.

  360. 360
    Multicultieducationmallarky says:

    Nail bars are mainly run by the Vietnamese. Why would they need a GCSE?

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    The Public says:

    What democracy? I never got a vote on this, did you?

    Don’t believe all that bollox about the public being responsible, no-one ever listens to the public.

    Not that I’m not happy to see Freddy boy get shafted – he’s had it coming for a long time, the twat.

  362. 362
    Tony Blair says:

    What I want to tell you is, Labour, in 1997, had three policies: Education, education, education. This is why you voted for us.

    And no, you can’t have your money back. It’s mine, now. I’ve spent it on eight houses. And the rest I’ve hidden from the taxman.

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    Celeste #1 says:

    His mistress will be disappointed in her decline of status!

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    Gordon was the real Villain says:

    Queen sacks fred for causing the worst corporate disaster in her reign. Why didn’t she sack Gordon for causing the worst Financial disaster in her reign?

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    Celeste #1 says:

    Knight Steve then Dave!

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    Steph said in 2005 says:

    To put it another way, when we look back, in a few years’ time, at Brown’s economy, will we still see an economic miracle? Or another old-fashioned spending binge that, sooner or later, had to run dry?

  367. 367
    Tachybaptus says:

    Modbot doesn’t do content. Just vegetables.

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    Universal Hiss says:

    but no pees were involved.

    Thinking about it there might have bean.

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    AC1 says:

    Well personally I’d prefer Olympics 2012 Paris…

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    Megalomania says:

    I get the feeling that Steph was in the binge camp. she was saying as far as a Beeboid is allowed to say that Gordon was a mad, bad megalomaniac. Bloody shame that her Eds did not heed her warning.

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    Julie, Julie, Julie do you love me? says:

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    “They can take away our gongs, but they’ll never take our freedom”

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    Ivor Dirty Chimney says:

    Makes you wonder how much her high upperness lost because of nice Mr Shred

  375. 375
    The BBC says:

    Global warming, Global warming, plant a windmilll, plant a windmill, European Union, European Union, Hard working families, the science is settled. Plant a Windmill.

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    Well I for one have not been there says:

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    William Jefferson Clinton says:

    That’s what they said about me too, even though I was implicated in a real-estate swindle while Governor, and an aide of mine who was being stitched up for it “committed suicide.” It’s just about lying about sex, the Democrats and MSM kept saying…

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    not a machine says:

    Ill make a note of that one “never go on newsnight as shadow education sec with vague position on education ciriculum changes ” …….. next !

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    Culture matters... says:

    The world has changed… We have changed. Politicians may not listen to the public .. But they do operate within our culture.

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    Eddie Gilfoyle > Jeremy Bamber > who is next says:

    Too right, former ex Lady Goodwin!

  381. 381
    Gordon Brown says:

    Does this mean there’s a spare Knighthood fae’ me?

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    Bareness Uders, sucking on the Great Socialist Tit says:

    Oooohhh plenty left for me?

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    The Paragnostic says:

    “one small silly mistake”

    ABN? A “small silly mistake”?

    You have to be shitting me. A prolonged failure of due diligence, a refusal to properly analyse risk, and the railroading of both the RBS board (weaklings and canting arseholes the lot of ‘em) and the FSA (no banking supervisory skill, as ordered by the Maximum Imbecile)?

    Some mistake – and not one that most on here would be likely to make, given that most of us have a) morals and b) common sense.

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    GlobalGaz says:

    Good that he lost the Knighthood, but is more like a public dressing/humiliation down, which needed to be done given the number of people that lost jobs etc.

    Now…..is he legally liable for the complete and utter screw-up he made? Sacking his head of risk, BECAUSE he was making clear warnings about the RBS business. This is wanton criminal incompetence.

    When I see the likes of Goodwin or politicians in court, then I will believe there is some form of responsibility which has been massively lacking.

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    The Paragnostic says:

    And at 0.1%, even a reasonable sized operation conducting 5 billion worth of trades in a year (280 – odd days of trading 20 million per day – it soon adds up) would be hit with a 5 million quid bill.

    For 5 million quid per year, most operators will move outside the Tobin tax region.

    Well, you would if you weren’t totally fucking stupid, so if you see a French hedge fund operating from Paris after Shortarzy imposes his tax, then avoid dealing with the stupid fuckers. If they don’t care about their money, why should they care about yours?

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    The Paragnostic says:

    Sure you’re right about King, jgm2 – I think he did mitigate the Maximum Imbecile’s damage as much as he could, but couldn’t hold firm on moral hazard because that’s outside the moral compass of the Fife Fumbler.

    The thought of that cunt Blanchflower holding the reins would be enough to make any man reluctant to hand over responsibility, so Merve gets a free pass on what he did from me.

    His memoirs will be interesting – I would hope he lays bare the extent to which Brown and Darling were prepared to beggar the country for the sake of their RBS friends.

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    The Paragnostic says:

    I’m with AC1 on this – if you rely on ‘capital’ as your base, then you are likely to include notional valuations of property assets and especially “intellectual property”in your calcualtions, inflating your sense of worth accordingly.

    Hard assets – currency or physical gold that are available for instant repayment of deposits are what counts – without sufficient funds for that, you are and should be dead meat, regardless of whatever clever money-go-round you use to pay Paul from Peter’s next wagepacket.

    Remember – the tipping point in the crisis was when the IBL market collpased.

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    Northern b34 says:

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    The Paragnostic says:

    Makes a change from PWC and Goldman being in favour under Labour – and some of us are old enough to remember Arthur Andersen being much in vogue under Major.

    One bunch of numbnuts beancounters has to be in with the prevailing government – it’s Buggin’s turn at the financial coalface.

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    The Paragnostic says:

    You have to forgive the daughter of Michael Flanders anything, though.

    Hold very tight, please – ting ting!

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    edl says:

    bring on the EDL

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    The Paragnostic says:

    Hurd – the cunt who said sending arms to Bosnia would create a “level killing field”?

    No wonder Col Bob doesn’t like the idiot. For myself, I nominate Norman Fowler as the biggest waste of Tory space of that generation, but he wasn’t quite as odious as the appalling Gwynneth Dunwoody, champagne socialist extraordinaire.

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    William McGonagall says:

    Here lies Fred
    Victim of the crowd
    But the ABN takeover
    Should never have been allowed.

  395. 395
    Thomas O'Pikey says:

    Jaysus! Will ye look at the bollocks on that lass?

  396. 396
    Jimmy says:

    If only he’d ponied up some cash for the marginals he’d be Lord Goodwin.

  397. 397
    South Pacific Travel Tips Inc. says:

    Just use Tahiti (which is only marginally more exciting than Blackpool) for transit purposes. Just go the extra mile or two to Bora Bora.

  398. 398
    South Pacific Travel Tips Inc. says:

    A fully trained helicopter search and rescue pilot is not really my idea of somebody who is semi-unemployed. Unless by semi unemployed you mean someone who just sits around all day waiting for somebody else to fall overboard in a force 10 gale.

  399. 399
    Ava Clearout says:

    If they did resign en masse would that not be sufficient to warrant a new general election – whereat we may actually get a proper Tory government?

  400. 400
    Ava Clearout says:

    Indeed, mud mud glorious mud is all the BBC seems to serve up these days.

  401. 401
    Yum Sing says:

    Wok gon?? Wot you use to cook in now? I gotta big potta noodles on the back burner today.

  402. 402
    Phil Itin says:

    It’s all Greek to me. Very drachmatic.

  403. 403
    81IIy 8owden i5 7he gre@test ump1re ever ! says:


  404. 404
    Twitchy says:

    Some woman whose name escapes me reckons it’s all to do with a toxic chemical spill a few years ago and several miles away which is now affecting the groundwater supply.

  405. 405
    Twitchy says:

    Mmm Mcmoussaka sounds nice. Can we throw the plates around after eating too?

  406. 406
    Twitchy says:

    Round here heels get caught in pavement cack.

  407. 407
    Marmite says:

    Get your own moniker shit head!

  408. 408
    albacore says:

    Now, if you were to choose whose botty to spank
    Would it really be Fred’s, ‘cos he sank a bank?
    In the ranking of national saboteurs
    He don’t even come close to winning his spurs
    It’s in Parliament where you’ll nose those bums
    With their airs and graces, all lordly chums
    There’s never been such a high stinking mob
    More gunpowder, Fawkes, and less of the gob

  409. 409

    Yet another storm in a teacup stirred up by the politicians to distract us from their own grosser failings.

    Unforgivably, this time they’ve dragged the Queen into the fray, once again bringing the honours system into disrepute.

  410. 410
    Gonk says:

    Pontificating about driving matters as Chairperson of the transport
    committee and bleedin couldn’t drive. Probably get a statue any day.

  411. 411
    Hang The Bastards says:

    MP and Lords on TV berating Fred for causing UNTOLD damage to economy.

    yet they all fail to mention BROWN and co.

    fucking hypocrites

  412. 412
    I want no benefits I want a fucking job says:

    I doubt very much whether the Squeaker will call upon Mr Skinner at PMQs any time soon.

    IF he ever did Dave will live to regret calling him a dinosaur because he will name certain goodwinesque characters without fearing the consequences.

    Skinner be 96 and a pain but he will be in touch with common people on this one.

  413. 413
    Hang The Bastards says:

    More hypocrisy and smoke screen from our MPs. They are the disgrace ones who pack the House of Lords with Honourable members.

  414. 414
    Spartacus says:

    yep, loads of marshes out there to build upon

  415. 415
    Bloke says:

    Gordon Brown is a complete cnut. But watch him become Sir Gorson Brown before long….

  416. 416
    I Remember You Hoo says:

    Knowing the grasping nature of the political class, it wouldn’t be long before the Tobin tax was extended, in the name of fairness of course, to every kind of financial transaction like a mini VAT.
    All over EUland they are introducing draconian laws outlawing the size of cash transactions and the amounts of cash you can carry or have on you at any time.
    Imposing these laws using various excuses, is all designed to make you use digital transactions or risk having your cash seized by law.
    What more convenient way of the state stealing a few more pounds every time you went to the garage, the supermarket or sporting event, could you imagine?

  417. 417
    Lee King Sump says:

    Extreme Duty Lubricant ???

  418. 418
    dudley zoo says:

    who is julie davies?

  419. 419
    Taxfodder says:

    Totally agree

    Governments, Ministers and their mates since before the second world war have and continue to squander and trouser far more taxpayers cash than Fred.

    Fred is a symptom of the disease rather than the cause.

    Stripping Freds Knighthood is a diversion for the witless and stupid.

  420. 420
    The Two Eds says:

    Why not Ed Goodwin ?

  421. 421
    Mr C Bryant says:

    I knew I should have copyrighted that pic

  422. 422
    Do You Have a Licence for That? says:

    Can we look forward to a Panorama exposé on trade union funding, including the “Modernisation Fund” and the “Pilgrim” scam?

    Don’t hold your breath.

  423. 423
    the mob says:

    “Another day, another mob win.”

    Nope, just the liblabcons trying to cover their own smelly arses.

    You’ll hear from us after regime change.

  424. 424
    Disliker of Bankers says:

    Bye bye Freddie. Who’s next. Can we get his pension back?
    Why is Jackie Stewart being asked questions on Beebo 4? He knows a lot about motor racing but why should we be interested in anything he has to say about Shreddie?

  425. 425
    BBC mong says:

    Remind me of how much fiddling Skinner did with his expenses again.

  426. 426
    Anonymous says:

    As you say many politicos over the years have done very nicely thank you, but politicos do not do down their own kind because when they are out off power the same thing will happen to them, Fred is a start on the business comunity, nothing comes to light until things go badly wrong as in Freddie’s case, he is one of many, but as I say do not hold your breath with politicos, politicians through the ages have tended to be, let us say, of a doubtful character, the highest rank of politicos has the most power and can bestow patronage which could be traded in when they leave power, can you think of one?

  427. 427
    P.Mandevilson, the Eminence Greasy says:

    They can’t take my well-deserved Peerage away. Can they ??

  428. 428
    Jane Birkin from Paris says:

    Now that Goodwin has been outed I hope that that fucker Victor Blank will follow.

    I make no bones about it: this man screwed me good and proper.

    There I was a few years ago sitting on a nice wad of LSTB. I got a bit worried about that takeover of Hbos but that Hunt Blank was all over the Telly and the Press saying what a good deal it was.

    The next thing I know is my fucking dividends go walkabout and it’s all over the Press that this Hunt has not been doing his ‘due diligence’ and the share price falls of a fucking cliff.

    I tell you something for nothing: SIR VICTOR BLANK GAVE THIS GIRL A RIGHT GOOD SHAFTING.

    Thank God the Cabinet Office is onto this outrage.

    Blank will be on his knees by the end of the week and others will follow.

    Good work Mr Guidedog!

  429. 429
    Rinka Scott says:

    I think we should be looking to strip that Lord Taylor bloke of his lordship.

    He was the one who went to prison for stealing our money through his expenses.

    He has brought the honours system into disrepute just as Fed Goodwin has.

    Another one to add to the list.

  430. 430
    Rinka Scott says:

    Goodwin went to Paisley GS not the playing fields of Eton

    Perhaps this is the reason why he and not certain others have been dropped in it.

    Geoffrey Archer has really helped improve the repute of the honours system.

  431. 431
    Kate's Bush says:

    Same thing last night on Sky News. Maybe there’s a secret club of Monaco-based Scotttish expats that they both belong to.

  432. 432
    Golly says:

    Perhaps Levenson should be looking at the role the Press play in financial matters in this country as part of his remit.

    fast track back to 2000/2006 and RBS were paying serious bucks in Corporation tax which were gladly received.

    Gordon Brown was being hailed as some sort of Financial Guru and the Conservatives were working out how they could match all those Socialist spending cuts and make NHS even better.

  433. 433
    Kate's Bush says:

    WJC: no mention of state-mandated loans for those unable to repay them, then. No fessing up for what, exactly, it was that was ‘started in America’. No regret for firing the starting pistol on a recession that spread worldwide.

  434. 434
    I don't need no doctor says:

    And you a head shrink.

  435. 435
    Plato says:

    I warned you that this would happen if we got rid of Murdoch.

    There is nobody to misdirect and control the mob.

    This may lead to anarchy or justice!

  436. 436
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    Lokk at th make up of Tier 1 and Tier 2 capital guys. Conventional reserves are a small part. If you rely only on those reserves your capital base will be inadequate. Typical reserves for UK banks are 3%. Typical tier 1 capital is approaching 10%. Even allowing for ‘dodgy’ capital I prefer to have the other assets.

  437. 437
    Tristram Smallbore-Ffipps says:

    I’m an old fashioned Whig – I do not believe you can advocate economic and social freedom separately from each other., so I believe in minimum govt interference in both.

  438. 438
    David Icke says:

    Who’s knicked my knighthood?

  439. 439
    Former Colleague says:

    We all understood that the only reason Jackie stayed with you Handy was your promise of the title (Lady Hancock of Portsea?). Some chance now?

  440. 440
    kulture klub says:

    are you under the impression that you’ve discovered something new?

  441. 441
    swampy dog says:

    well, well !

  442. 442

    Thank God the Cabinet Office is onto this outrage.

    Blank will be on his knees by the end of the week and others will follow.

    Good work…………..

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