Hague Confirms Obvious Dave Defeat
Who would have thought that a threat made at four in the morning would prove impossible to implement in the cold light of day. Before Christmas, while on a relative high from his EU spanner in the works, Fightin’ Dave was all mouth about EU institutions, but the dampening of expectations has begun this morning. A full retreat will be signalled when the Prime Minister arrives in Brussels this afternoon, but Hague has hit the airwaves to say that they were “not intending to take action about that now”. Another reverse move that could easily have been avoided. Many more of these and the words “defining” and “feature” will stick…
Stay tuned….
We will be watching you Dave !!
Cam’s grandstanding helped to boost our poll rating though. Aren’t I a clever boy.
By the look on Dave’s face it look as if he has been suppriesed from behind
Put Motoring FINES UP. To Pay for the WAR in Afghanistan?? The motorist gets it again. Why dosn’t the Government just Stop spending OUR money on their Games, How many of the Great and good make profits from sitting on Boards of Arms companies like bunch of spare PARTS? Have they not worked it out that if the motorist can’t pay the fine, he may lose his home, Banks take a Hit. Lose his Job, Private business takes a hit. REVENUE TAKES A HIT and cant pay your WAGES..
Every day we get closer to the nightmare world of the Matrix, where we are mere resources for our rulers to use as they see fit.
Long past is the day when I began to hate the political class. I now pray every day for the revolution that will rid us of this blight on humanity.
There is no right, nor left. There is just this cancer in our society of people whose sole (common) purpose is to perpetuate their own evil and parasitical existence.
I read today that Ed Milliband has personally schemed to rob an honest man of his previously agreed remuneration for a job that he does well. If it were a machinist in a factory nobody would give a shit. (Although the rarity of such persons would make it newsworthy).
Cameron, whose first act as PM was to get us into ANOTHER fucking war that he refused to pay for, continues with his master plan to betray the English people. All to further the cause and prosperity of the political class.
I don’t drink any more but I would buy and drink a bottle of champagne every time I hear of a politician being assasinated. I am too old but I long to see the British people rise up and take back the freedoms that have been denied us by these liars, cheats and thieves.
History shows us that violence is the only way to rid ourselves of oppression. We are not allowed to bear firearms in the UK. This is not for fear of children being shot by mad monsters. It is to protect the political class from justice. The US constitution gives citizens the right to bear arms in order to protect themselves and to rise against corrupt government.
Would that we had the same legal right. The tipping point comes closer. It is when the majority of the people lose all respect for the ruling class and hold only contempt for their law.
On the Admiral Byng precedent, a prominent politician should be strung in Whitehall asap, just to “encourage the others” as Voltaire put it. It seemed to work too as within a generation we really ruled the waves. Now who to nominate to become Westminster’s first ( I envisage others ) sacrificial lamb ?
Serf “~~we are mere resources for our rulers to use as they see fit.”
It’s the modern day version of the feudal system developed by our rulers.
AND the public who aren’t interested in the EU, apparently, and gave Cameron his biggest thumbs up so far, amazing as they’re not interested, won’t be at all bothered by his u-turn will they!!
I think Cameron is going to get a BIG drop in his ratings over this EU u-turn from the public who aren’t interested in it!!!!
So when do we join the Euro?
Fairly soon at this rate.
And I wonder how much more of OUR money Dave’s going to commit to the IMF/euro this afternoon. After repeatedly promising that we wouldn’t be contributing anything.
There is always a bright side.
We do not become exposed to Guido’s privates.
There is always a silver lining.
I suppose the other plus-point is the public will never trust Camoron again, the Cons’ rating will freefall and his cowardly backbenchers will have to finally make a move to get rid of him.
I could be wrong, but I didn’t think he would be allowed to contribute to the meeting, although he was allowed to be present.
Sooner than you think. It will be dressed up as part of a wider EU stability pact that means you either in or you’re out. Dave and George will lead the ‘right thing to do’ campaign. Millibean will also support it, just leaving the Right of the Tory Party, UKIP, the Communist Party and associated groups to oppose it. The press will divide on the usual lines. The electorate will be ‘shown the abyss’ of leaving the EU and you’ll be spending Euros down you local before 2017.
Wake UP. He is NOT. Yes I said it NOT in charge. Stop believeing in the Punch a Judy show in Parliament, Its a deflection from the real power. MONEY. TAXATION. STATE.
The Quasi Democracy that has served us so well is now in Danger of collapsing due to the Structural Problems. Too many WARS, Too many public sector workers getting too much and too many Cronie Capitalists, building windmills and stealing more money out of the economy due to TAX to support the Ponzi Schemes.
It’s time to leave this lame duck union, give us a referendum now before an anti eeeuuu terrorist organisation is formed.
basically rubbish – come on Dave – politics art of achieving the impossible not art of achieving nothing
Sooner than you think..
“Amid doubts about Greek willingness to cut spending and raise taxes, Germany has suggested that a European commissioner should take effective control of Greek fiscal policy to ensure the country accepts austerity..
“Philipp Rösler, the German economy minister, insisted that some external control over Greek policies had to be considered. “If the Greeks fail to do this themselves, the leadership and monitoring *must* (my emphasis) come in a stronger way from outside, for example via the EU,” he said.”
“For example via the EU” = “Or there again, from Berlin.”
Democracy in Europe is once again threatened by the German Jackboot.
Taxes have been raised in Greece. Everything has gone up substantially.
too fast, too deep?
Clearly nobody’s told Wirtschaftminizter Philipp Rösler, aka Albert Speer II.
Yes, probably. I paid almost 10 euros for a kilo of minced beef last week. Petrol is over 1.80e a litre, and people who own houses here have been told that they didn’t pay enough tax when they purchased the house (never mind how many years ago). Someone I know has had to pay an extra 600 odd euros.
So when the cuts are imposed on Greece and public sector jobs have to go, by order of EU, how will they get round EU employment rules?
US electing a socialist again, France going to elect socialists in april, what have they learned?
Years ago, dear old Nick Ridley (Old Conservative) suggested that the EC (as it was in those days) was basically a German plot to subjugate by economic means what they had failed to do by force.
He was forced to resign. What would happen to a right wing Tory minister who stood up and suggested that old Nick had, perhaps, been right all along
Cell Time – I have no idea.
All I know is that public sector workers didn’t get paid at all in Nov and Dec, and shops where I live are closing daily. Pensions have been cut in half and new taxes are appearing out of nowhere. Some families here are living on less than 400 euros a month. I don’t know how they do it.
He’d be cheered to the rafters on here for a few days and then quietly find himself invited to supervise wool production on the Orkneys. A couple of years later he would be seen carrying plastic bags to peoples’ cars in Lidl car park.
Chucker has given a full explanation on Sky why Labour’s public sector bonuses no longer need to be paid, could save some serious £s.
He’s good at saving pounds, is old Chukka. Like all the tax he saved when he shoved the ownership of a £1million family home into an offshore tax haven.
Stay tanned…
No need.
Heathite Dave & his neo Liberal cabal of fake Tories will sell out the British taxpayer for their own sordid careers.
Its what the Conservative Party under Cameron does – sell us out, its all they do.
Vote UKIP
Pro EU Heathite Dave “cast iron” Cameron & his cabal of neo Liberals will sell out the British taxpayer again & again for their own sordid careers & political legacy.
Aiding a foreign power with malevolent intent against your own country used to have a name.
We used to call this treason.
Cameron the sell out, Hague the quizzling, Osbourne the vacuous idiot who tries to convince us that Europe is the problem with our growth.
Tories out.
The euro was doomed to failure when so many countries run their finances differently.
Greece is just the tip of the iceberg.
Greece is only one of may tips in Europe. Have a look at places like Romania and Bulgaria and places like Naples in the southern part of Italy. Fetid.
EU Voting Song
Jolly voting weather
We are all europhiles
We’re very clever
And lie to you all the while
You fell for our promise especially the CAST IRON trick
We’re all from Eton, and you lot are all too thick.
If you think I’ll claim back powers,
You haven’t got a clue
We’ll hand the UK to Merkle,
There is nothing that you can do
No referendums Changes through on the nod
I am the PM and I’m a duplicitous sod
As for immigration
I know it gets on your tits
I will flood the nation
And pay their benefits
I am from Eton; I am one of the ruling class
If you don’t like it, you can just kiss my ****
If I agreed the Treaty
Things that it would amend
Required referendums
And that would be the end
We’d be out of Europe and that’s what the public crave
But I’m undemocratic, just call me dictator Dave
Clegg is making noises
Pretending he did not know
If he really meant it
Lib-Dems would pack up and go
There all in it together, and David is now all smiles
He has silenced the sceptics, with the aid of the Europhiles
This has been a carve up
Helped by Merkosy
They need our money
That is quite plane to see
They played out the charade so it looks as if Dave’s alone
But were still in the EU and we’ll pay for the Euro zone
Jolly voting weather
We are all Europhiles
We’ve silenced the sceptics
Look at their beaming smiles
There’s no referendum, the sceptics are really thick.
I am from Eton and those idiots missed the trick
Surely the whole point of the Veto was to achieve concessions not to just be anti-European? If we get some suitable concessions (no-Tobin tax, etc.) then I don’t see why we should block them just for the sake of it.
There are no concessions on offer.
Our weakness is trying to save the Euro.
We just cannot shut up and let them do their thing because we think the price of failure is too high.
Exactly! The Germans agree to block the French, we agree to support the Germans when it comes to sorting/f***ing Greece. Which is really what this is all about. Greece should never have joined. Not without proper due diligence, safeguards and a common fiscal policy. Rose tinted glasses meant these weren’t followed through. Greece needs to leave gracefully and with minimum embarassment. (Dont spook the markets!) it needs to have a devalued currency ‘new drachma’ of it’s own or a secondary ‘miniEuro’. A new drachma means it’s left to the wolves to sort itself out. A minieuro centrally managed would also give opportunity for similar nations to follow suit eg Portugal.
European stability comes first. This pact needed to go through but Dave and George wanted to make a point that the EU can’t just expect things to go through on the nod. All members are not equal in the EU, unpopular as we may be but we still carry weight because we sign the cheques. Unlike Greece who just cashes them. (Which for the record I believe isn’t totally their fault. The EU itself was the enabler and it’s only now their chickens are coming home to roost)
Quelle surprise
What a loser.
It’s already happened. The Cameron government has, thus far, been one of big talk and no action. They have backtracked on every major reform so far and health and PS pensions will be next.
Truly, he is the heir to Blair, another uber-reformer who couldn’t walk the walk. In mitigation, Cameron lacks a 100+ majority and has the tiresome Lib-Dems to contend with, but would a little back bone be too much to ask from our elected Prime Minister?
“Cameron lacks a 100+ majority”
He lacks the majority he needs because he was perceived as a wishy-washy heir-to-blair gutless little prick.
And his behaviour since crawling into Number 10 (and in the last few weeks in particular) have only reinforced that image of a completely useless mendacious craven coward.
Come on Tessa,don’t be coy;tell us what you really think of Cam*ron.
oh dear … with this and failing to stand up to ed and risking losing Hester, it’s not a good day for cam.
They ignore the popular vote at their peril !!:)
B.Bob we are all in peril irrespective of who gets in to government.
Guido, I know you and Neo-Guido have got to go off gallivanting sometimes but can’t you find a more suitable locum than the political ignoramous you’ve left in charge of the shop this time? His instincts are dire.
Is today the day Cameron shits on any poll lead? If and when he caves into the EU, UKIP should get a massive boost!
Yup. could end up with as much as 6% of the popular vote.
Six percent would be good
Ed Balls’ victory – won by only 1,101 votes while UKIP polled 1,506.
• Bolton West: Labour 18,329; Conservative 18,235; UKIP 1,901
• Derby North: Labour 14,896; Conservative 14,283; UKIP 829
• Derbyshire NE: Labour 17,948: Conservative 15,503; UKIP 2,636
• Dorset mid & Poole: Labour 21,100; Conservative 20,831; UKIP 2,109
• Dudley North: Labour 14,923; Conservative 14,274; UKIP 3,267
• Great Grimsby: Labour 10,777: Conservative 10,063: UKIP 2,043
• Hampstead & Kilburn: Labour 17,332; Conservative 17,290; UKIP 408
• Middlesbrough South: Labour 18,138; Conservative 16,461; UKIP 1,881
• Morley (Ed Balls): Labour 18,365; Conservatives 17,264; UKIP 1,506
• Newcastle-Under-Lyme: Labour 16,393; Conservatives 14,841; UKIP 3,491
• Plymouth Moor View: Labour 15,433; Conservatives 13,845; UKIP 3,188
• Solihull: Liberal 23,635; Conservatives 23,460; UKIP 1,200
• Somerton & Frome: Liberal 28,793; Conservatives 26,976; UKIP 1,932
• Southampton Itchen: Labour 16,326; Conservatives 16,134; UKIP 1,928
• St Austell & Newquay: Liberal 20,189; Conservatives 18,877; UKIP 1,757
• St Ives: Liberal 19,619; Conservatives 17,900; UKIP 2,560
• Telford: Labour 15,977; Conservatives 14,996; UKIP 2,428
• Walsall North: Labour 13,385; Conservatives 12,395; UKIP 1,737
• Walsall South: Labour 16,211; Conservatives 14,456; UKIP 3,449
• Wells: Liberal 24,560; Conservatives 23,760; UKIP 1,711
• Wirral South: Labour 16,276; Conservatives 15,745; UKIP 1,274
As if the actual composition of Westmister makes a blind bit of difference these days.
Just so!
You know how we could deal with this.
Support a voting change to APR in the referendum.
Oh, wait, …
Bye bye Dave if the UConned us get a backbone you lose, because you will lose at the polls anyway.
This is a bad day to bury the bad news that Dave is shite.
“Dave is shite” is news?
A SNEERING Nicolas Sarkozy last night attacked Britain for being a country with “no industry”.
The French president made the jibe as he defended a 1.6 per cent VAT rise to boost his country’s flagging economy during an hour-long TV broadcast.
ANOTHER VAT rise to boost an economy. Good idea, why don’t we try it.
eeeee eeeesa willy sized pompous teet
With no industry where exactly would the added value be to tax? VAT is looking more like a stealth Tobin tax on the plebs by the day.
They could always tax the air we breathe.
What, exactly, do the stealth windmill taxes do?
Salmond is planning to tax Scottish water used for whisky.
Shush old bag;don’t give them ideas.
Was this what the Beeb, quoting Sarkyboots, described as “a tax on fin*ncial transactions” this morning? …which is exactly what I had understood our gallant PM to have refused point blank not long ago for implementation in his beloved country… or was that something else entirely?
Saint Helena.
Good thing we still have it.
It can be put to use again on its bicentenary.
The Saints are lovely people. Don’t impose that odious shit on them.
The gallic dwarf is in trouble politicially and if, which seems increasingly likely, he loses at the polls the new government has stated that it will not ratify the new treaty.When you are a desperate frog politician looking for support bashing the english is second nature and .Cameron is also aware of this and I suspect will not create waves over the institutional process on the basis that the treaty is already doomed.
Sarkosy is almost right. We have little manfacturing industry left. Our former strength in that area has been all but destroyed by our own successive Governments of both parties, poor management and trades unions. Germany — BMW. UK — BL & bust.
Etonian wanker.
For evidence of our self-inflicted abasement, look no further than this month’s ruling from Europe’s Court of Human Rights that Abu Qatada, a radical Islamist preacher, regarded as one of al-Qaeda’s main inspirational leaders in Europe, cannot be deported from Britain to his native Jordan because his trial there might have contained evidence obtained by torture.
” Need any help? “
Well he never did use a veto so what did anyone expect ?
Dont the DUP look like prize arseholes for laying down a motion in the Commons praising the Prime Minister for his pre-Xmas ‘veto’
Surely it must starting to get impossible to work with this man, what he says in the morning could be totally different by mid afternoon.
Get Mystic Meg in.
To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
And a time to every purpose, under Heaven
A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep
To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
And a time to every purpose, under Heaven
A time to build up,a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together
To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
And a time to every purpose, under Heaven
A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of p**ce
A time you may embrace, a time to refrain from embracing
To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
And a time to every purpose, under Heaven
A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time for love, a time for hate
A time for p**ce, I swear it’s not too late
Cowardy-custard.
Just another one from “U” turn Dave. But this is just what Brown and Blair used to do.
They marched their troops up to the top of the hill, and just marched them back down again.
I haven’t changed my views at all, if I do vote next time, it will definitely be UKIP.
Will that be before we see Euro Cops on the streets of Blighty.
Arabs have their Spring we are in the teeth of a
a Democratic Winter
Aren’t they due to help us out over the Olympics? It would be a terrible shame if some of them were so confused by our English-language signage that they never found their way back to the Eurostar terminal for the journey home.
Mervyn King’s flooding of ‘borrowed’ printed cash into the banking sector has hidden the flight of real businesses and wealth abroad
“U turn if you want to”
Dave took the Iron ladys words a bit too much to heart
TRAITOR!
Quelle Looser – Dodgy Dave – Hobbly Hague or Both?
After he lost that Election a few years ago I thought William Hague threw his rattle out of the pram and went to do something or the other in the City of London with some of his friends fromGuernsey.
I told you fucking Cameron was all mouth and trousers and now you English tossers are getting the message.
Even with the Jocks and Welsh on your side you only total 62m.
We in Europe without you lot total 440m. All your Yankee friends only total 320m.
If you fuckers could smell the coffee you would realize we don’t give a fuck about you as all you do is moan with your fucking fingers stuck up your arses all day and make out you are so fucking clever and superior because you won a war which finished 65 years ago.
Go play with yourselves I say. You will lose an export market of 440m. We will lose at most an overseas market of 62m.
Comprenez- vous?
If France is in such a buoyant state, why did Sarky and Merkel ask if they could control the Banks in London?
I think you already know the answer to that one.
Allez vous faire enculer Monsieur s’il vous plait.
Typical Parisien!
How is Algeria-sur-Seine? Stepped in any dog shit recently? It was much nicer when we ran it officially. Now we have to pretend that you French are self-governing, but that will soon change.
Get it right – typical FEMALE Parisienne.
Some of those conciergettes would make Mike Tyson quit in Round 1.
Actually, Jane, it’s Madame, but I will forgive you for not properly understanding written English.
Why are Parisians always so rude? The people further south in France are much, much nicer.
Well Madame if you must know it takes three hours by TGV train from Paris to South of France.
just as well the English aren’t in charge because then it would take all fucking day.
Je suis Parisienne.
Well don’t let it bother you cherie, we all have our problems, non?
From the tone of your comment, it seems that, for the descendants of Napoleon, there is one war which is still being fought. And we’ll see you off in the same old way.
Quite so. We are rapidly becoming a small island off Europe with a third world economy and standards. However, it will be OK by 2030 when we’ve got two new aircraft carrier gunboats fuelled by mothballs to frighten all those foreign johnnies.
In Europe we are temporarily in the shit. But you British have been in terminal decline since 1914, thanks to your corrupt incompetent politicans.
Usually due to alliances with the rench that end up with us spending blood and treaure bailing them out.
Hey sweets, did you ever hear of the place known as the Rest of the World? You need to get out more.
Miilipede is now giving a quasi intellectual speech about keeping the uk intact.
Surely the person giving this speech should be the Leader?
Perhaps Dave can now play catch up.
RedEd is there to defend the Labour-held rotten boroughs of central Scotland upon which he will rely to get a majority. I doubt that the question of the good of the Union has even crossed his mind.
Have a look at any one of the labour boroughs of London and see how mcuh os left of this United Kingdom.
Now try and find someone who’s actually surprised by this…
They already have-he’s all wind and spin!
and friends of Dorothy