January 26th, 2012

MacShane’s Twitter Fibs

No this isn’t about his fraudulent expense claims, this is about the whoppers MacShane tells on Twitter:

Without even checking the records, Guido recalls that the Los Angeles Olympics in 1984 were officially opened by President Ronald Reagan and saw him re-elected in November 1984. More recently the Canadian Conservative government of Steven Harper won a full majority of votes in 2011, after the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics, following successive minority and coalition governments in the previous years.

Last week MacShane made the bizarre claim that €uro had got stronger against the “Osborne pound” which was “still weakest currency in world as oil prices rise”. The pound is in fact up 5% against the crisis-ridden €uro over the last three months.

UPDATE: Courtesy of William Pitt in the comments below:

1984 – Los Angeles (Reagan reelected in 1984)
1988 – Seoul (Roh Tae-woo returned in 1992)
1992 – Barcelona (Marquez returned as PM 1993)
1996 – Atlanta (Clinton reelected 1996)
2000 – Sydney (Howard reelected 2001)
2004 – Athens (Karamanlis reelected 2007)
2008 – China (no brainer)


138 Comments

  1. 1
    Me says:

    Lefty lying shocker.

    Should be in prison

    • 12
      Popeye says:

      I have watched MacShane for years and I don’t think he knows the difference between lying and speaking the truth.
      Not surprised he’s a Euro-fanatic.

    • 18
      Aaron D Highside says:

      McClaim should lose his McJob.

      • 51
        Our Denry says:

        “2010 Vancouver Olympics” I think tha’s got that one Guido old love, there were no Olympic games in 2010 thank goodness it was the winter Olymics you are thinking about, still I would be very happy if there no Olympic games of any description the ordinary or winter a lot of money sloshing around just right to disappear down into bottomless cracks, still I suppose I can live with it as it is in the south east of the country.

    • 41
      McShame is a liar says:

      One of life’s mysteries why PoliticsHome bother to regurgitate McShames witterings on twitter on their banner phi wire.

    • 71
      I was Jonah wot done it. says:

      If one looks at the five year chart one will see that the pound devalued against the Euro in the reign of Gordon Brown and has been slowly rising in the Dave age.

      http://uk.advfn.com/p.php?pid=qkchart&symbol=FX%5EGBPEUR

    • 135
      Obnoxio the Clown says:

  2. 2
    john in cheshire says:

    Socialists do love to lie. If only our children were taught about the true nature of socialism, perhaps, we’d have fewer of them in our country and we could return to a path of normal advancement. Read F.A.Hayek’s book, The Road to Serfdom, it will tell you all you need to know about the evils of socialism.

    • 16
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Another little gem is, “The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality”, by Ludwig Von Mises. In particular, Champagne Socialists get several new ones torn as their conceits and fantasies are laid bare for all to see. The Glittered Richard pictured in the header is covered by a section entitled,”The Resentment of Frustrated Ambition”.

      • 75
        Tessa Tickles says:

        And look what I found!!

        http://mises.org/etexts/anticap.pdf

        • 87
          Grumpy Old Man says:

          Definitely a Gold Star on your work book, Tessa!

          • Tessa Tickles says:

            All the thanks go to you, GOM. I’ve just read the chapter you mentioned (p15). Brilliant stuff, I’m really enjoying it.

      • 104
        john in cheshire says:

        Hayek, von Mises, both from the Austrian school of Economics. Eminently sensible and convincing in their arguments. Detlev Schlichter from The Cobden Centre website, an Austrian Economics forum, is well worth a read. Socialism has harmed Western civilisation for over a century and for some reason their malignancy is not taught in our schools. Until it is, we will continue to produce hordes of unreconstructed socialists from our education system, armed and ready to continue the destruction of our way of life. I would suggest that socialists are encamped in all walks of life from heads of private sector organisations to civil servants, to MPs to the malignant EU bureaucracy. The need for total destruction of the socialists is becoming ever more urgent.

    • 68
      Our Denry says:

      Without appearing to associate myself with socialist Liebore or capitalists, it is not the pure ideas of socialism or capitalism that is wrong, it is what certain folks do when they use either system for their own ends and benefit, the capitalist model stumbled dramtically over the past 5 years or so, and the neo socialist system dramtically let their people down in Russia eventually exchanging one tyranical despot for another ending in Stalin

  3. 3
    Tony Bliar is really not a nice person says:

    That C.u.n.t wouldnt know the truth if it smacked him in the mouth….Which is what I would love to do to this piece of crap………..

  4. 4
    Displaced Brummie. says:

    Mr McShame, at it again.

    • 110
      Moscow Mike Handycock (sex Tourist on Taxpayer's money) says:

      Dennis is like me. Fidddle your expenses for years and get away with it. No one has ever questioned me for getting the taxpayer’s to pay for my Russian Mistresses’ apartment, salary, and taking her on foreign holidays. I wonder why? Boaz.

  5. 5
    Archer Karcher says:

    Hasn’t MacShane got a court case to go to yet?

  6. 6
    Oliver Cromwell says:

    When is the Chinese government to collapse ;)

    • 77
      Our Denry says:

      They are playing the system and making loads of money, using an iphone – made in China

  7. 7
    Synic says:

    Did the information come from the little red book of BBC factasies?

    • 31

      Fact of the week

      1. Most people in the UK are liberal socialists.
      2. Only 2% of the country voted for either of the parties in the coalition
      3. 99% of households watch Strictly Come Dancing
      4. The most popular sport on TV is snooker
      5. All government ministers lie. But Tory ones do it because they hate poor people.
      6. The cuts so far have made almost 16 million people unemployed
      7. Immigration has only had beneficial, cultural effects on the nation.
      8. The earth is heating up from man made sources at a rate of 4 degrees C* a year
      9. America is the most undemocratic nation on earth.
      10. 97% of people are satisfied or very satisfied with the licence fee. The others are probably mentally ill.

    • 134
      Terrible But True says:

      Noting a familiar set framing Mr. McShane.

      At least we can be confident that when MPs lie with intent to mislead, highly-paid, well-informed, impartial interviewers are able to correct him.

      Aren’t we?

  8. 8
    Raving Loon says:

    This is what’s known as “truthiness” Guido. It doesn’t matter what the facts are, it’s what people “know” to be true.

  9. 9
    Vermin says:

    He has a face like a rat.

  10. 10
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Guido – why are you even giving this oaf the oxygen of publicity?

    He’s a never was.

  11. 11
    annette curton says:

    Yeah, Adolf Hitler after 1938?., he’s clutching at straws with that one, it is also now the year of the Dragon or maybe try a bit of divination from the entrails of a pheasant.

    • 22
      House of Lords Bishopric says:

      Stop making negative remarks about our beliefs.

    • 23
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Err… he did say “since 1960″. Still wrong though. do you remember 1938 like it was yesterday? :)

      • 52
        annette curton says:

        Yes I did notice that but chose not to use Mr MacShanes parameters, was I around in 1938? no, please excuse me if I make so bold as to make any future references to the building of Stonehenge or the Norman invasion of 1066, if I said that I had personally witnessed these events at least 20% of the population might smell a rat.

    • 26
      Harpy Harpic says:

      Our PC scattergun is on top form this afternoon.

      • 72
        Mzzzzz. Haridan Harpin on n on n on about NooBoringLiers says:

        You just wait til we bring our heavies in, – then you’ll get a shock!

  12. 13
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    They must be absolutely desperate for viewers.

  13. 15
    misterned says:

    I did not understand a word of that, and it did not matter a bit!

  14. 17
    Greengrocer's scales says:

    Louise and Laurie?

  15. 19
    As Ed Miliband would ask... says:

    Predetor or producer?

  16. 20
    Tony Bliar is really not a nice person says:

    Denis MacShane is simply misunderstood, and i’m proud to say he is a great politician…….Sorry everyone learnt this today, just trying it out……….

  17. 24
    Bugler Bert says:

    As a member of the LIEbour Party, how can anyone believe a word of what this lefty layabout says – who will be daft enough to accept his statement that he has
    repaid the £23,000+ that he “obtained”?

  18. 27
    Rh- says:

    the left live by the strategy – lie often enough and the too lazy to check media/voters will believe. if they get pulled up, they were quoted out of context by the lying right. win – win in their eyes

  19. 29
    nellnewman says:

    Ahh mr mcshame. He of the £100k pa expenses for garage that he pretends is an office and those dozen or so laptops claimed off the taxpayer, rather has the look of a man who does not connect to reality.

  20. 30
    annette curton says:

    PIP watch?.

  21. 32
    Alizee the beast of paris says:

    L is for Labour
    L is for lies

    • 121
      Rh- says:

      this episode of sesame street is brought to you by the letter L, the words lying labour scum and the number 12billion so far squandered on 2 weeks of running and jumping

      • 138
        Arse says:

        Background
        MacShane was born in Glasgow[5] as Denis Matyjaszek, to an Irish mother, Isobel MacShane, and her Polish husband, Jan Matyjaszek,[6] who had fought in the Second World War and remained in exile after it, taking British nationality in 1950. MacShane was educated at the independent St Benedict’s School in Ealing and read history at Merton College, Oxford where he wrote for the Cherwell student newspaper. However, in retaliation for an article attacking the rival publication Isis, MacShane was stripped naked, covered with pink paint and left in a remote location.[7][8]

        [edit] Personal life
        From 1975 to 1981 MacShane had a relationship with broadcaster Carol Barnes.[9][10] Their daughter Clare Barnes died in March 2004 after her parachute failed to open on her 200th skydiving jump in Australia.[11] MacShane married Polish-born Liliana Kłaptoć in 1983, with the relationship lasting only a few years. In 1987, he then married Nathalie Pham, an interpreter of French-Vietnamese origin; they have a son and three daughters. They divorced in 2003.[7][12] His relationship with writer Joan Smith[13][14] ended in 2010 after seven years.[15]
        /
        In his spare time, MacShane enjoys skiing and running.[16]

  22. 33
    Cell time says:

    Another unpatriotic member of the tribe, hiding behind is anglicised name.

  23. 35
    Greengrocer's scales says:

    Hang on a minute, they have popped out again courtesy of MisterNed. Well done lad.

  24. 36
    'Ari RedKnob says:

    ..Wot’s a knee mail?
    I dunno nuffin’ ’bout no interwebs and no high speed broad-beans.

    That money was just restin’ in my account..

  25. 38
    William Pitt says:

    Just did some Wikipedia look ups… following on from 1984 Guido mentioned…

    1984 – Los Angeles (Regan reelected in 1984)
    1988 – Seoul (Roh Tae-woo returned in 1992)
    1992 – Barcelona (Marquez returned as PM 1993)
    1996 – Atlanta (Clinton reelected 1996)
    2000 – Sydney (Howard reelected 2001)
    2004 – Athens (Karamanlis reelected 2007)
    2008 – China (no brainer)

    So in other words for at least the last 28 years and SEVEN Olympics in a row the next election saw the SAME leader go into the election and win.

    In other words McShane is taken out of this arse.

    • 42
      'Ari RedKnob says:

      He meant England managers have always been sacked after a tournament
      Oh ..wait a ‘mo…

    • 49
      Tony Bliar is really not a nice person says:

      Well who would have thought….

    • 59
      Anonymous says:

      In fairness, he might not have had enough characters left to include the word “not”.

    • 74
      Lord Chatham says:

      You might add:
      1904, St Louis: Theodore Rooseveldt was president of the USA between 1901 and 1909, securing a win in the 1904 election.
      1908, London. Asquith was Prime Minister throughout the games and continued in office after the 2 general elections in 1910 with a government which was still in offfice at the time of the 1912 Olympics.
      And the Institutional Revolutionary Power held power in Mexico for years after that county hosted the 1968 games.

    • 78
      Nick Clegg says:

      Thanks for that William, Denis had me worried for a moment. The little tinker.

    • 99
      The Facts Denis says:

      British summer Olympics 1908 Prime Minister Asquith re-elected May 1915

      British summer Olympics 1944 (cancelled by WW2) PM Churchill re-elected May 1945

      British summer Olympics 1948 PM Attlee lost the next election oct 1951 and serves him right for being a lefty.

      • 128
        Dual Citizen says:

        “British summer Olympics 1948 PM Attlee lost the next election oct 1951 ”

        Actually Atlee won the 1950 election … with a much reduced majority of 5, then called another in 1951 which he lost.

    • 106
      K says:

      Roh Tae Woo due to term limits did not contest the 1993 election and was replaced.
      Technically no election has yet occured in China since the Olympics since the last National People’s Congress was “elected” in March 2008. The next one in 2013 will no doubt replace Hu Jintao (who has had his “turn”).

      • 126
        Rich Rostrom says:

        The same would be true in Mexico, where re-election of the President is prohibited.

        However, as in Mexico after 1968, the incumbent party in Korea in 1988 was returned to office in the next election (1992) – the Min Ja Dang (Democratic Liberal) Party.

  26. 40
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Labour and liars, the words are indistinguishable.

    • 53
      Cato Street Conspirator says:

      Not just Labour. Remember “With the Conservatives there will be no more of the tiresome, meddlesome, top-down re-structures that have dominated the last decade of the NHS.”

      • 56
        I don't need no doctor says:

        Not now cato.

      • 86
        Archer Karcher says:

        The National Death Service is something only a dumb, deaf and blind man would be proud of.
        It should be broken up and privatised and people should take direct responsibility for their own care via personal insurance.
        Which is what will have to happen eventually anyway, all the meddling in the world will not change that.

  27. 43
    Please come and enjoy Live chat for QT tonight. All welcome. says:
  28. 48
    PJD says:

    Mexico City hosted the Olympic Games in 1968. The government next changed in 2000! Barcelona hosted in 1992. The Socialist retained power in 1993. Willy Brandt retained power in the 1972 West German election held just after the Munich Olympics.

    Denis MacShane talks an incredible amount of crap.

  29. 50
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    I wouldn’t even believe MacShane if he told me his name is spelt Matyjaszek.

  30. 55
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Macshane’s claims are too far and too fast.

  31. 60
    Phantom says:

    Looks like this independent lefty is independent of reality too.

    Atlas Shrugged.

  32. 66
    Ed Milliband says:

    McShane is an arsehole, I on the other hand am an opportunistic sniveling little shit.

  33. 67
    Twat a twit on Twatter. says:

    Does anybody actually read McShane’s shite on Twatter? I personally do not give a flying fuck about the opinions of twats on twatter. 99.9% of opinions on twitter is pure rubbish and the rest is suspect.

  34. 80
    K says:

    Since 11th May 2010, the Euro has gone from being worth 85.96 pence to 83.8 pence according to the ECB website. So, Denis MacThick is wrong.

    He’s also wrong against the Dollar, where Sterling has gone from being $1.4869 to $1.5586.

    As for the Olympics. Let’s be generous and look just at the Summer Olympics. In 1964 the Japanese saw a change in Prime Minister who came from the same party (in practice most postwar Japanese PMs from the LDP tend to serve just one term). In 1968 Mexico hosted and saw a change in President who came from the same PRI party but since Mexico limits presidents to a single term, it’s nonsensical to draw anything from this. The 1972 Olympics were presided over by an SDP Chancellor – Willy Brandt, who continued to be Chancellor at the next election in November 1972.

    There was a change in Canada after 1976 when Trudeau lost to Clarke. Technically the USSR saw Brezhnev hang on after the 1980 Olympics since he remained boss through the 1981 26th Congress of the CP.

    1984 saw no change. Reagan won.
    1988 saw Roh Tae Woo replaced by Kim Young Sam, although the parties of both presidents were merged. Again as in 1968, term limits prevented Roh from standing again.

    1992 saw Felipe Gonzalez in charge and he won again in 1993.
    1996 saw the relection of Bill Clinton, The republicans retained the senate and the House.
    2000 saw john Howard returned in the next election in Australia in 2001
    2004 saw the newly elected NDP karamanlist government overseeing the games, they won the next election in 2007

    Bottom line, MacShane is a gibbering idiot. What a surprise.

    • 131
      Spock's left ear says:

      En passant, before that loony Scot got his sticky mitts on the levers at the Treasury, the euro was stable at around 67p for a long time.

  35. 82
    Anonymous says:

    O/T
    The anti-monarchy group Republic is warning schools they may break the law if they take part in a cooking contest to mark the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee.

    • 102
      Tessa Tickles says:

      These are the same Wannabe Revolutionaries who said they’d disrupt last year’s Royal Wedding.

      And then didn’t.

  36. 83
    Deflated Sally says:
    • 89
      Exploded? I think not. says:

      Why didn’t you phone little John to come out and change it? That’s what husbands do.

    • 111
      JH says:

      Imagine the call to the AA.

      “Hello, now look here, this is the Speaker’s wife, Sally Bercow. You have certainly heard of me. The dark thing round the wheel has popped, now send someone this minute little man or my husband will have you fired. And send some young hunk I can flirt with, yeah?”

    • 112
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      Can’t she change the bloody thing herself.

      I thought women were the equal of men.

  37. 96
    B.Bob... says:

    Daft c*nt !

  38. 108
    Gareth says:

    “still weakest currency in world as oil prices rise”

    Does MacShane want UK exports to be cheap or expensive? You and he are both idiots if you think a strong currency is a good thing when we have 8%+ unemployment.

  39. 109
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    There’s a few more even since 1960.

    Willy Brandt’s SPD won a landslide in late 1972 after the Munich Olympics although he resigned in 1974 when it was discovered that one of his aides was a Stasi agent.

    Leonid Brehnev died in 1982 after the Moscow Olympics so it wasn’t an election (not that the USSR had them any way. Nonetheless Labour at the time were in love with the Politburo)

    Gustavo Diaz Ordaz was president of Mexico at the time of the Olympics in 1968. He left office in 1970 largely because of public and political dissatisfaction with some of the crackdowns he authorised particularly the nororious Tlatelolco Massacre. His party PRI though continued in power for the following 30 years

  40. 116
    Hairy baker says:

    He should be in our Pole vaulting team.

  41. 122
    Another McShame fib says:

    Why does his twitter account have the heading ‘Labour MP …’?
    I thought that he was required to be an Independent having lost the Labour whip?

  42. 124
    brooks says:

    silly bunt

  43. 129
    Georgeous George says:

    Expecting a Labour MP to know something? You Sir are a Leftist!

  44. 130
    Antoine Clarke says:

    Did Hitler lose the election after the 1936 Olympic Games? Or Brezhnev after the 1980? Fairly sure Schmidt didn’t lose after 1972.

    Even the London games of 1948 were followed by the re-election (reduced majority) of Labour.

    Of course, the tossers who got London the games deserve to be voted out and made to pay for the damned thing out their expense accounts.



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