January 23rd, 2012

Labour Trying to Have it Both Ways on Polling

More bad news for Boris today as a ComRes poll echoes last week’s YouGov offering that had Ken in the lead. The jubilation in Labour circles is on the up, but they obviously didn’t get the same lines Chuka was sent for his appearance on the Sunday Politics yesterday: “Polls go up and down… you’re obsessed with polls Andrew”. Heads in the sand…

Leaving aside Brillo’s cutting riposte “I’m sorry Mr Umunna these just go down”, Labour are clearly trying to have it both ways. Do polls matter or not? Why is a poll showing Ken in the lead any more valid that one showing Ed tanking? Any suggestion that polls aren’t devoured by people like Chuka is nonsense… 


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  1. 1
    Displaced Brummie. says:

    This is because Ed is a silly Tanker.

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    • 19
      PM says:

      Labour likes to have it both ways on the economy, too. One minute, “the government’s getting it all wrong”. Next minute, though, “we’ll follow the government’s plans.” Complete wankers.

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      • 45
        Topsy says:

        Can’t see why Chucky’s used as a Labour mouthpiece as often as he is.

        He’s bloody creepy!

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        • 50
          Fiscal Gerrymandering says:

          Chuka is so posh, even his first name comes from playing Polo

          Exactly what skills does this public school boy, millionaire, employment lawyer have in Business, Innovation and Skills?

          It’s like putting Prescott in charge of etiquette instead of pie scoffing

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  2. 2
    jgm2 says:

    Ken is more popular than Vacant Ned.

    What a surprise.

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    • 48
      Moscow Mike Handycock says:

      I am extremely popular in Portsmouth, the House of Commons, Moscow, Kiev and Odessa and Grand Lodge. Boaz.

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  3. 3
    Peter Hain D.U.E.M.A Champion says:

    That was a strong and assured interview by Chuka Umunna.

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  4. 4
    bye bye majority says:

    Stating the obvious a bit there aintcha.

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  5. 6
    Abstainer says:

    Yaaaaaawn, they’re all the same!

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  6. 7
    Nameless Idiot says:

    It’s reported that renowned bearded-muesli-hugger Ken is in line for Iran’s highest honour. The Galloway medal. Is this true?

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  7. 8
    U Mean says:

    it’s loik havin yer cake n eetn it? nowotoimeen?

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  8. 10
    chriselee says:

    good old Chukup,same old CRAP

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  9. 11
    Blue rinse Tory says:

    Will Ken bring back the bender buses?

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  10. 12
    The nerve says:

    They’ve just been discussing the subsidised lunches in parliament on Daily Politics. Believe it or not there’s an actual complaints log. Jo Coburn said about 19 MPs had logged complaints about the food. She asked if MPs should really be complaining about meals that are subsidised. A Lib Dem peer on the show said they’re not as subsidised as some believe! I think Guido should find out who made complaints and name and shame them!

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    • 23
      Stinkfinger says:

      There used to be (and maybe still is) a little blue note book in the press gallery cafeteria which was used for comments and suggestions.
      One entry put it quite simply ‘Your food is shit’.
      Guess they didn’t like the cornbread.

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    • 26
      Hungry Constituent says:

      There’s a piece about this in the Daily Mail

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    • 27

      …I think Guido should find out who made complaints and name and shame them!

      I don’t think that’s a very good idea at all.

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    • 29
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      We expect our MP’s to demand value for money on all government expenditure, then when they carry out their auditing function demand that they be named and shamed! some people are never satisfied.

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  11. 13
    Tom says:

    BBC director choosing an odd shot of that iPad there, about 10 minutes in.

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  13. 15
    Angry of London says:

    Ken will win for one reason – the promised 7% reduction in fares. For most Londoners this will be the only issue – whether it will remain financially viable to commute to work in London (face it – only benefit claimants and spivs now actually live in the capital).

    Londoners will vote for ANYONE (even that tw_*t Livingstone) promising such a reduction. Mind you – they might be a bit angry when they discover that it’s just another Labour Lie(TM).

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100121754/ken-livingstone-i-cant-deliver-my-fares-cut/

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  14. 16
    Anus Homo says:

    The immigrants and scroungers of London deserve Ken

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  15. 17
    Jimmy says:

    Oh My God. This is unprecedented.

    It’s getting worse again now.

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    • 21
      Angry of London says:

      Mr. Mustaffa Benefitz says it’s actually getting a lot better now that prophet Livingstone will be back providing spiritual leaderhsip of the Sharia enclave of central Londonistan.

      He says that all 25 of his postal votes (sent from a 1-bed studio above his shop) will be for prophet Livingstone.

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    • 42

      You’re obsessed with trolls, Andrew Jimmy.

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  16. 18
    Rear Orifice says:

    Politicians trying to have it both ways? There’s a thing!

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  17. 20
    Steve Miliband says:

    Is the BBC for or against Benefit caps? It is hard to tell. not

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    • 25
      Angry of London says:

      They all own buy-to-lets. Gordon told them (and the whole civil service) to get on board with property ponzi. One of the few things keeping the plates in the air is state-inflation of rents. A cap of £26K would crash zone 1-2 London rents like a dirty bomb.

      Don’t think this is about the ‘deserving poor’ – it’s about the financial futures of the BBC spivs. The poor dears are stuck off the end of an estate in Salford now you know. Shame they’re not forced to declare a vested interest however….

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      • 38
        jgm2 says:

        Yes. The whole ‘economic miracle’ was just one giant property ponzi scheme. Employ one million bedwetters, boxtickers and bastards practically overnight, pay them by borrowing 30bn quid a year. Provide no new homes and watch ‘em chase up the pr*i*ce of housing.

        Watch the newly ‘rich’ and therefore ‘clever’ release the equity ‘tied up in their homes’ and unleash a massive consumer boom.

        Repeat to destruction.

        Then blame the banks.

        Even since the balloon went up every economic lever has been pulled to keep a floor under house pr*i*ces. Millenia low interest rates. Mortgage paid for 18 months if you lose your job. Shared ownership schemes. Every trick in the book.

        And it is took the expenses scandal to reveal just why so many politicians were so keen to pump up house pr*i*ces and keep them pumped up. The fuckers were all insider dealing.

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      • 39
        jgm2 says:

        Yes. The whole ‘economic miracle’ was just one giant property ponzi scheme. Employ one million bedwetters, boxtickers and bastards practically overnight, pay them by borrowing 30bn quid a year. Provide no new homes and watch ‘em chase up the pr*i*ce of housing.

        Watch the newly ‘rich’ and therefore ‘clever’ release the equity ‘tied up in their homes’ and unleash a massive consumer boom.

        Rep*eat to destruction.

        Then blame the banks.

        Even since the balloon went up every economic lever has been pulled to keep a floor under house pr*i*ces. Millenia low interest rates. Mortgage paid for 18 months if you lose your job. Shared ownership schemes. Every trick in the book.

        And it is took the expenses scandal to reveal just why so many politicians were so keen to pump up house pr*i*ces and keep them pumped up. The fuckers were all insider dealing.

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    • 33

      R2 keep playing a clip of a woman saying “Its just rich people that get away with everything. Why aren’t they paying their share? Why aren’t they paying more in tax?”

      Just once, BBC. Just one time, when someone uses this line,please could you point out that 50% of 100k is a lot greater than 20% of 20k.

      Or just point out that 20% of a big number is still more than 20% of a small number.

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      • 40
        jgm2 says:

        This is the BBC. They’re all arts graduates. Not one of them is capable of doing that amount of basic maths.

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        • 46
          Rog says:

          Talking of which, when are the fabled “cuts” going to apply to the BBC?

          In these austere times, why not make everybody £145.50 better off annually by making the BBC opt-in and subscription only?

          We are not forced to pay for Murdoch’s output, why are we forced to pay for politically biased Beeb rubbish?

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        • 51
          To Be Fair says:

          To be fair you cant expect people to think logically when theyre on Coke

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  18. 22
    un believer says:

    Guido, you don’t half love an excuse to bang on about Mr Umanna

    Why don’t you just ask him out on a date and be done with it?

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    • 28
      nellnewman says:

      Not very hard to be cynical about mr chuckourmoney with his fancy suits, tidy little inherited nestegg somewhere offshore away from the taxman, advocating how he thinks everybody else’s money should be spent to buy labour votes.

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    • 31
      Stinkfinger says:

      I asked Chuka to make me a suit with no pockets,no buttons and no lapels.
      He said,”with all those extra’s it’ll cost £1200″

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  19. 44
    Coventry says:

    I think this particular MP is quite annoying. If we all ignore him will he go away?

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  20. 47
    NelsonsGoodeye says:

    You’re looking at the next Liebore leader there……

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  21. 49
    PinStripedChancer says:

    Has anyone noticed the striking resemblance that Chukka has to former leading light Dave Milliband? All bar one respect of course, Chukka is bald.

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  22. 54
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    After, more than 40 years of crap from the snake oil salesman pollsters, it’s hardly surprising that nobody trusts them, except of course, the media wankers who fund the polls or report on them, WELL FVCK ME SIDEWAYS! YOU DON’T SAY. The media are bored with the “Boris is going to walk it” narrative. So lefty pollsters and their media allies sekk to “set the agenda” by coming up with crap polls. Pro Ken polling is nothing more, than an attempt by the left and the media to a more suitable narrative.

    I mean, Millibandnd is supposed to be on 38%, 9% up on the last GE, yet he is under huge pressure because his party and the Left thinnk he is failing. Maybe because they know the pollster add 10-15% on the Labour share? Pollsters are part of the media/Left-wing conspiracy to dominate the political narrative. Don’t beleive a fvcking word!

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  23. 56
    Duh says:

    It’s tempting to say that no, I don’t care about polls and wish interviewers would talk more about policy. But then he gets asked about the benefits cap, and the response is that Labour aren’t in government so don’t need to have a policy. Even though several minutes prior he talked about the man in the street (or on the estate) wanting to know what Labour would do for them and that’s the important thing. So, yeah, polls or policy, whatever. They pretty much have nothing to say about anything.

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