December 5th, 2011

How Ron Paul Rolls


  1. 1
    I'm lonely says:

    Billy who?


    • 4

      He won something here once.

      This is the sort of stuff.


    • 7

      I hope and I pray Ron Paul wins the primaries and becomes the first world leader to being the socialist Ponzi scheme, that make us and our children debt-slaves, to its knees.




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        Piers striking the wrong (tabloid) chord with an economic titan:


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          I'm Heading for the Pub, the People There Are More Intelligent says:

          “Long-walks-off-short”-Piers Morgan wearing his own metaphorical tin foil hat, afraid to have any thought implanted in his head that in any way conflicts with his own world view. What is this “You and him fight, I’ll hold your coats”-mentality getting us by way of solutions to any real problems? Jeez Louise, you’d think anyone who would bother (a) to watch Piers Morgan instead of some third-rate sitcom and (b) to watch an interview with Dr. Paul, would want to do so because they wanted to find out what the fellow was all about, but Piers goes straight for the who-cares shit, thus offending what few intelligent viewers he may still have left. This idiot should get Clarkson’d.


          • The Paragnostic says:

            He did get Clarksoned – Jezza punched Piers a few years back.



          • I'm Heading etc says:

            Of course he did, but that incident, for most people, just reeked of what I was speaking about, i.e. media personalities and boys behaving badly, as though that’s all everybody cares about (sadly, that IS all some, perhaps too many, care about). If they’d tangled near the edge of a cliff and got each other in a death grip, pulling each other over, I might be arsed to give a good damn. No, I was referring to the neologism du jour of “to Clarkson,” i.e. to take someone one out and shoot them in front of their family– which might not be all that bad in Jezza’s case either, come to that.


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          Fabians are Evil says:

          Can’t we get someone to blend a bit of Ron Paul, Regan and Thatcher’s DNA to make a ‘super-man’ Politician? – Oh and a wee bit of Pinochet to really spook the Marxists and of course Pollytwaddle


          • fucky nell says:

            It’s already happened. Iron Man Dave Cameron – Defender of the Faith


          • Nemo says:

            Dave is astride his charger chain mail on, full suit of armour on glinting the the sun, ready for the joust, his lance and shield ready for action, his broadsword already honed to razor sharpness at his side, his hose 19 hands high whata figure of a man, can you not just visulise it.


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Ron is consistant but the USA and the UK have grown to dependent on government, until the ublic get it, we will never elect Ron or anyone like him as a majority


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      Looking bad for your prize, mate.

      Bad luck they had colds today.

      Next time?


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        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        Statement from Guido Fawkes (If i may Guido?)


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          The plea of every politician….!

          Still he is a good guy.


          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            I dunno, guido has been nicer to me last few days that last 6 months, think i might have made him chuckle enough to win it?

            tho as no prize offered it wont cost him anything ;-)


          • jgm2 says:

            He probably did an IP graph of all his ‘hits’ that he’s so proud of on Saturday and realised that you represent over 50% of them.


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        nellnewman says:

        Do you know what I think Cat?

        I think Bill won that prize and they were gonna give him a bottle of Jura. Then they got colds and decided to drink it for themselves!

        Tell you what Bill if you don’t get it I’ll send you a little bottle of Jura for Xmas!!

        Because you’re worth it!!


        • 89

          You have divined my thoughts entirely, nell.

          If I do see you over Christmas, and it is looking less likely now, I will go halves with you if you like.


          • nellnewman says:

            One of these days Cat – we mad folks on here will all meet up in London.

            I’m just worried people will think me old , as in, not being young!

            As for Bill he’ll got his tot or two of Jura!


          • nell

            You make me uncomfortable when you refer to yourself as old.

            Because you are not intimidated by anything here when it can be quite savage. Old (or young) is how you feel.

            I have got this funny feeling that I am probably very slightly older than you. Yet I think I am still young. I still feel and act as I did when I was in my early 20s.

            Some people may disapprove of that. Their problem not mine.

            So I want you to start telling yourself that you are young again.

            And believe it !!!!

            Will you do that for me?


          • nellnewman says:

            Cat that’s so funny and so true.

            We don’t age in our heads. My Mum (God Bless) is in her nineties and she talks about her friends , who are as old and older than she is as ‘poor old dears’! She still sees herself as younger than them! Long may it last !!

            Mind I’m still doing treadmills, 3mile hikes and diets to try and keep fit . How sad is that?!!


          • Making progress here. (You know what I am like when I get started.)

            I want to tell you about a friend my family had. She lived in Cannes. Her name was Nan Young, Lady Young. She lived to be 102 years old and passed away about five years ago.

            In the war, she was a prisoner of the Japanese. Who knows what she endured?

            I only knew her in her last three decades. She used to serve meals to what she called the “elderly” at Holy Trinity, Cannes. The elderly were from 65 years upwards. She continued to do this until the age of 97!

            The human spirit at its best IMHO! And you probably know that I am not religious.

            May your mum continue to think like this.


          • nellnewman says:

            Not just her Cat. I want to keep thinking like that too!!


          • apologies to RLStevenson says:

            Three spirit bottles under their belt,- meant for those offerins both good an mispelt
            Three for the comments of goede men, -that had impressed them, now and again
            But all have now gone, most are now dry,-broken promises that make us all cry.
            The Glenfiddich is empty, single barley malt!,-Guido blames Leveson, he says it’s his fault
            The Jura goes too, today we are told, -diluted with lemsip? to cure a sick Cole, D-
            -ont doubt the Vodka has disappiered too, -disinfecting the kidneys, pissed down the loo
            But our Cat and our Nell try to plan compromise, -a bottle of anything to stem Billy’s cries
            The day might be saved to save Guido’s face, but then why make those promises in the first place?.

            Friends Amend All


          • Thanks. Think I know who you are. Someone who can deliver that mental firepower at any time – narrows it down a bit.

            Perhaps power always corrupts? The console has become hoarse rather than the horse a consul.


          • Nemo says:

            Oi you two, is this a mutual appreciation society or something


          • The love who cannot spell his name says:



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      rocknrolla says:

      Nice to imagine though the reaction of the dolescum, bbc presenters and guardian readers to the election of a politician who thinks that people should work to earn money, that printing money is a bad idea and that invading foreign countries for no good reason isn’t a good foreign policy.


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      Boutros Boutros-Car Key says:

      Love that commercial!

      Department of Education? GONE!

      Genius stuff – thanks for posting it.


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    jeri boam says:

    It would be a good idea to find out who will be taking out these whole depts, Rusty or the EUSSR.


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    no longer anonymous says:

    I wish our government would cut a trillion dollars’ worth of spending.


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    ++BREAKING WIND++ says:

    AFP is reporting that the IMF has approved a €2.2 billion payment to Greece.


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    MrAngry61 says:

    Ron Paul’s got the idea, but can anyone imagine it happening here? The ConDems had the opportunity to cut expenditure in real terms, and they even messed that up.

    British version of harsh cuts = appoint a committee to find savings.


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    Jimmy says:

    Because 0.8% growth is still too high?


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      jgm2 says:

      It’s better than the zero percent growth promised by the Maximum Imbecile.


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        jgm2 says:

        Although, in truth, 0.8% growth funded by – what is it now – a 10% annual deficit – is not ‘growth’ at all in any meaningful sense of the word.


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          Archer Karcher says:

          You’re wasting your time talking sense to a jock, you may as well debate economics with a dog for all the good it would do.
          The scotchers are beyond salvation, socialism has rotted their brains and ambition.
          All they aspire to these days is enough benefits to keep them drunk from Giro to Giro.


          • Cross-dressing wife-beating alcoholic says:

            It’s oor oil. Whaaas like ussss? Flower of Shcotland…


          • Remember Milliband is inglish as is Laurie Penny , Ed Balls and Bevanite Ellie says:

            Thats right Fraser Nelson, Douglas Murray, Nial Ferguson some of the most prominent Right wing thinkers and guess what else they all have in common……..go on take a guess ?


          • Jimmy says:

            Brain damage?


          • Really? says:

            Archer’s using a broad brush. For every Adam Smith, there are thousands chronically dependent upon the state. It could be that Salmond and his ‘rise up and be a nation once again’-style rhetoric could wean them off it.

            Projects like Holyrood – very pretty but hopelessly over budget – and the Edinburgh tram – an unfinished vanity project to do the job a one-mile spur into the airport would have done better – hardly inspire confidence that he can succeed.


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    CutsMeister says:

    Ideas for UK govt. depts. we could get rid of…. how about NHS?
    How do you like them apples? People have to PAY for their healthcare insurance direct?? It’s a theoretical framework, I’m gonna roll with it for a while.

    How about ballistic nuclear submarines? gone. (Keep the physics packages and the physicists on the payroll however, they cost a pittance).
    How about quangos? gone.
    How about JSA? gone.

    Problem solved. Amen.


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      Billy Bragg says:



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        Thomas Jefferson's Favorite Whig says:

        While we’re at it, axe: maternity pay, minimum wage, tax credits and University places for those too thick to study a real subject.


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          The Paragnostic says:

          Climate Change? Get rid of it. Energy department should be making it easier to frack shale for gas and build nuclear power stations, not fucking about with windmills and solar panels.

          Agriculture? The latest report from the Met Office says that “climate change” will make most of the country more productive, so it’s time to wind down the subsidies for arable farmers.

          Local government and “Communities”? If there’s a market for the race relations industry, it will flourish. Otherwise, let it go bust.

          I could go on…


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        CutsMeister says:



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      Jim says:

      With the help of the BBC people think that there is still some cash in the bank and it is not necessary to live within our income until after they retire.


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        The Paragnostic says:

        BBC? That’s 3.6 billion we could free up at a stroke.


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        Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

        That, Jim, is because the BBC has never had to live within its income. Remember the former Controller of BBC1, who said, when he saw the annual budget,’I’ll never be able to spend all that?’ Who on earth would admit that they get enough off the state teat, when they can get more if they shout loudly enough? I had to laugh when I saw Mark Thomson and his cohorts in the Select Committee, when they would not give a straight answer to the question of how much one of their senior employees earned in a year, trying desperately not to quote a figure, presumably out of embarrassment. So much for transparency and accountability. I’m sure they think we’re stupid.


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      Anonymous says:

      Social services. ZAP !


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    Billy Liar says:

    The man is obviously clinically insane.


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      The Paragnostic says:

      The trouble with Ron Paul is that he is all too sane – he is unwilling to indulge in the lies and omissions that would allow him to be electable.

      He sees the problems of a declining and ever more degenerate political system far too clearly to be trusted to reform it in a comfortable manner, and his habit of calling “Shenanigans!” whenever and wherever he sees hypocrisy and self-interest makes him a hate figure for the vested interests in the political-media complex that is strangling America.


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        The Observer says:

        But it is still not clear to me why he is not taken as seriously in the USA as he should be. Yes his age is against him, but that is the only thing.
        Very strange – must do some more research.


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          The Paragnostic says:

          He doesn’t get the media coverage that candidates for the two big parties do, because he’s not willing to engage on a level that would satisfy the fifteen second soundbite sellers.

          Very similar to how the press / TV over here treat Hannan / Carswell / Farage, in fact – they struggle to gain coverage because they don’t fit into any of the convenient boxes that lazy and often partisan journalists prefer to use rather than engaging their brains and listening.


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          Thomas Jefferson's Favorite Whig says:


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    Sophie says:

    Small state

    Low taxes

    Government out of the economy

    Out of the EUSSR

    Close DFID

    Stop immigration – train our own for the jobs here

    Vote UKIP


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    They may be favourites for the X Factor but their bid for fame may be in doubt after an Irish dwarf group have accused Little Mix of stealing their name.


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    I’ve learnt a lot in the past year. Not sure what it is that I’ve learnt… could somebody tell me?


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      Cleaner who scrapes bogies from off the benches says:

      Ellie’s favourite tickles?


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      Ed Miliband's Well-Hidden Sense of Humour says:

      Not to play with fire, maybe?

      I’m sorry, Ed old man, you DO look like Meat Loaf.


      • 140
        nellnewman says:

        ‘Look like meatloaf’??!!

        Well you sure as hell don’t sound like them. They were Amazing!!

        Don’t denigrate them by comparing them to the failure bullyballs!!

        Sugar!!! What Next!!??!!


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          Ed Miliband says:


          Meat Loaf= “Two Outta Three…”
          Balls= Nil outta three.

          Sorry I got your knickers in a knot, Nell! (Alliteration)


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    Ministry of Paperclips says:

    Hi Ron,

    Wot. No more eff n safte. No more Paperclips to push around our desks?


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    You forgot “never win an election”. Lots of our politicians have learned that one already.


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      The Paragnostic says:

      Funnily enough, given your moniker – if you scratch Ron Paul, you’ll find he’s libertarian all the way through. If he was given equal time in the TV debates, he’d soon wipe the floor with the current set of morons, and you might find his mass appeal would show that.


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    Can't wait! When's it on at the cinema? says:


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    ++BREAKING WIND++ says:

    The Financial Times is reporting that Standard & Poor’s could downgrade all AAA rated eurozone nations as a result of “deepening economic and political turmoil in the single currency bloc”.
    The article claims that the ratings agency is poised to lower the rating for Germany, France, the Netherlands, Austria, Finland and Luxembourg later tonight.


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      The Piss Soaked Tramp Formally Known As TAT! says:

      I’m still counting my millions I made from the US AAA Downgrade I told you all to bet on earlier in the year to give a damn.


    • 58
      CutsMeister says:

      This is long overdue. I’m not surprised, but this could kick things into overdrive if true. Whoever’s pulling the strings here, they’re playing a dangerous game. I hope and pray our banks are properly recapitalised.

      It’s so funny how little Merkozy gets the markets. The Germans have got their heads in the sand and the ‘markets’ (as the BBC likes to say) are coming to get them. It’s like a slow-motion car crash.


    • 59
      Dave Figgley says:

      Ha ha, mate. I’m flattered that you borrowed yet another of my names, son. Your brain is so small that you can’t think of something original? Fair dos. You’re not clever but you are rather boring, geezer.


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        :) says:

        It doesn’t matter what name I use, my advice always turns correct.

        The Piss Soaked Tramp Formally Known As TAT! says:
        July 29, 2011 at 7:15 pm
        I’ve come to offer you all another one of my sagely bets to make you lots of money.

        Try and find somewhere that will give you good odds still and put as much money as you can find on America getting downgraded while you still have the chance.

        I will be putting 10 grand up, Top Boy never issues a bet without putting his own money on the line first.

        The Piss Soaked Tramp Formally Known As TAT! says:
        July 29, 2011 at 7:16 pm
        They are going to lose their Triple A rating you heard it here first!


        • 78
          WVM says:

          *Doffs cap at Piss Soaked Tramp*
          Indeed, looking back America’s triple A rating was lost on the 5th of August 2011.


      • 70
        Copyright it next time © says:

        You snooze you lose :)


    • 74
      WVM says:

      Will this day finally be the beginning of the end?


    • 138
      nellnewman says:

      Oh Yes Please!! Serve them right!!!


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    Yeah but in reality says:

    The 4X2ooooooos will have him shot like the Kennedys if he ever gets voted in.


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Guido Sir, One for you and Neo :-)


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    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    I’m sick of hearing about these useless feckin’ pandas in jockland. Isn’t it about time some budding Chinese entrepeneur started selling sweet and sour panda and panda curries for export. While were on the subject the Norwegians and Japanese should start selling whalemeat stakes for export.


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    cheche says:

    Repudiate the Lisbon Treaty.

    Brown signed with group pf nations and not a fiscal block


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    Yeah but in reality says:


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    Yeah but in reality says:


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Isnt “Hollywood” lefty land?


  25. 75

    Well, we cynics have been proven correct about Cameron refusing to give the UK public a referendum on any EU treaty change. His Downing Street spokesman has confirmed the no referendum decision.

    Cameron has proved to be as big a serial liar as Blair was (is). More votes going to UKIP as a result. Is there any Tory Eurosceptic backbencher who has the backbone to trigger a leadership challenge? I’m not holding my breath, but any of them with small majorities in marginal seats may wish to ponder how many of their decreasing voter base will switch to UKIP at the next election.


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      jeri boam says:

      Watched a youtube on Farage after reading the gridiron with that ugly woman trying to play devils advocate, If we ever get chance to vote then I now know who Iam voting for and it won’t be for Cameroon.


    • 83
      nellnewman says:

      ‘More votes going to UKIP’ ??!!

      Well you know and I know it won’t be enough to get UKIP into power and that is the problem. Although I wish there was a chance.

      The longer cameron is in power the more like john major he is becoming – a grey, spineless man who does not have the best interests of the British electorate at heart.

      The tories needs to get rid of him before 2015 and install a leader that can reclaim the rights of the individual over the state and the rights of Britain over the EU.

      I suspect the French will do it next year and the germans the year after that – so the tories have plenty of time to think about it!


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        not a machine says:

        I wouldnt call him spineless at all , but he certainly plays some unusual tunes .To put it mildly the euro crisis is not as black and white as I would wish , for Tonys globalisation has a nasty sting , in that if you own the bonds of the largesse of other countries , you die a little also .
        Getting it wrong is not somthing suggested when going into bailouts , but then again he wont be picking up the tab and to be honest , he must realise that if the solutions being proposed across the channel are half cocked , to not go along with it , is his gamble . he talks a lot about outcomes , that is what we hope he has considered .
        This is no time for a novice , or one that thinks niavety will allow him to scrape through, nor those cooing the spin in the sidelines from other parties under the spell . As he chooses , so must we all.


    • 121
      The Observer says:

      Wouldn’t it be nice if UKIP could be in the same seat as the Limp Dims as kingmakers?


      • 126
        nellnewman says:

        Yes. And maybe one day but it won’t be yet!


      • 129
        nellnewman says:

        And the thing is when it comes to Kingmakers , the one who would be King has to judge how much power that kingmaker really has.

        Edward IV/ and his brother the eventual RichardIII understood exactly Warwick’s power and played it to a T.

        Cameron overestimated cleggies kingmaking properties and gave him too much power as a consequence. Bad political decision that will impact on his leadership of the tories by 2015!


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      Petrioniste says:

      There are 15000+ names calling for another debate on a referendum.


      • 197
        Spartacus says:

        do you mean it is running out of steam


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          Really? says:

          You have do admit that EVERY party using a three-line whip on the referendum vote is, well, classier than sending police vans mounted with loudspeakers out into the streets to intone that RESISTANCE IS USELESS.


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:


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      nellnewman says:

      Well as someone from Greece on twitter said about cameron and referendums the other day – ‘if he tries to hold a referendum the eu will have him out’

      The Irish Government are in the same rock and a hard place. Merkel and Sarkozy will do them in if they try to hold a referendum! Democracy is dead!


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      Spartacus says:

      building here just got hit by a flock of pigs


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    misterned says:

    You know how people would love for politicians to be honest and keep their promises and work tirelessly for the people who elected them and not the vested interests?

    Well Dr Ron Paul is almost unique in that he is that sort of politician and has several decades long, consistent record of doing exactly that.

    In addition he is the ONLY candidate in the Presidential election race who understands what is wrong with America’s economy and knows how to fix it.


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    JH says:

    Serious question – what software would an ad of that quality be put together in?

    Not Flash, surely.


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      annette curton says:

      “Want to drain the swamp ?” is kinda catchy though.


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      D L George says:

      Most NLE’s although you’d have to with one that can handle 3D text and lighting.

      Pretty much any compositing package could also be used (Adobe After Effects, Fusion etc) but they’re more pricey.

      If you really wanted to push the boat out you could do it all in a full 3D package with compositing but that would be overkill for that vid.


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    Hang The Bastards says:

    Gets my vote anyday.

    Just shows you what spineless weak pussies we have for politicans here.

    Call me dave is the school geek compared to Ron


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    not a machine says:

    mmm seems as though cutting debt is the new black , whole departments ? ah but would ron paul choose .

    Somthing about the Merkel Sarkozy breifing wasnt quite right , for some reason I thought it was the kind of speech the ruin could give , hectic , full of gonna does and some sort of unquestionable imperative . The luxury seemed to have gone out of them , the crisis seemed very much to be in there hands .
    It was classic ruin , “we are going to impose penalties” “we need a new treaty” , but then there were slight hints that we had moved beyond requests easily fullfilled and onto the demands , voting measures to stop it being torpedoed , countries must accept more german control if they want us to cover the debts . It flickered between paradise and unthinkable .

    Perhaps no one reads there children Hanzel and Grettle and the superstitions of fairy tales , some think of as clutter of the mind , now that reason has become mathematics . Today wasnt quite perhaps a trail of crumbs leading children lost in a dangerous wood to a magical house of sugary things , but there was somthing of the casino about it , both looked a little frought at the all in nature of what they were proposing , rather like unveiling a personal piece of art , to people who dont really enjoy modern art.
    There wasnt any joy with the avant guard though , was there in part because german and french tax payers would be footing any miscalculation for a long time , I wasnt even convinced if they knew if it work , and it lacked the detail what some hacks thought of more of the backroom , when considering what they were talking about I would have thought a detailed plan was needed . It lacked the freedom of Rolf Harris , “can you see what it is yet” as within the austerity there were faint hints of how future trade must work . “we must get competative work practices ” , and I got the idea that socialism perks were going to be reformed big time , but again they have a job on not to make it look too scary even if looking like the return of the gods of greece fables and the rest of us puny humans facing trials and delimmas of capricous games of the gods .
    There was perhaps a little surprise (in the inherant unpredictability of debts ) that ireland had a 16bn eu shortfall and was putting VAT up to 23%, which may suggest the lever of choice post big bazooka .

    There was also no admission that somehow the EU had seriously failed to look after things , as though the debt had materialised without them inducing austerity much much earlier , or recapitalisation , which again reminded me how detached from perhaps reality it seems to behave , but that may be what you would expect , when commisoners dont have voters to worry about ,let alone being able to keep dissenters at distance or make them ineffectual , they soak up the Hannans and Farrages like armour plate because it is run that way , representation of course that is european , but acting on it, is somthing for the special ones to deal in , it is impermable to all but those who spend in its enlargement .

    The only way it could be spun was that the club, after may be 10yrs would be much better , which perhaps is why we were left to fill in what actions were in mind . Yet it is the actions that would determine if it was journey to somewhere you did not wish to go .

    Easing the pain is fairly natural response for civilised humans , perhaps eutopians and europeans are interchangeable in speaking in this way . The possibility of unrest due to rectifying the debts is a natural concern , but then you have to ask what sort of cycle will the debt repayment will create , will eurozone citizens be having there expectations altered to subsistence , will unions wreck the fine controls triggering punative actions or even a more militant state . two teir europe or tear gas europe .

    That is the trouble i have with todays , fiscal demand , who knows what compliance will manefest itself as , what if default occures , what is the ultimate penalty ?

    compliance and cooperation are what the EU wants , it doesnt like considering its mistakes .

    Debts left for others always do infere change in future perceptions , it is perhaps worth considering if other options , reversion back to currencies hold a much better future in political compliance , it may just save the spirit of sovereign cooperation before it transforms into demands of the myhtical gods .


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    ‘John Terry has been requestioned by Police over Racism claims’

    “How much apologising do I need to do. I invited Anton around for a drink
    and gave him PG tips. They fucking love that”, he exclaimed.


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      Mike Hancock says:

      One of my good Russian friends (no, not one of THOSE “friends” — it’s a “he”) who shall remain nameless assures me that with John Terry, the lift doesn’t go to the penthouse, as it were. Villas Boaz.


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    At least Ron is honest says:

    Ha ha – Ron Paul, the ‘libertarian’ who sits in the House of Representatives and runs for the office of President. The ‘libertarian’ whose heroes (Rothbard, Rand, von Mises etc) would turn their society into a mafia state. People complain about the EU; life in such a society would be worse than Stalin’s Russia.

    I wish the Tories would come out with more of this stuff though. It’s a far more honest conception of capitalism than Labour’s, Clegg’s, or Cameron’s.


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      Raving Loon says:

      How would you know it would result in a Mafia state? Ron Paul’s ideas have very rarely been tried, yet Socialism has been tested to destruction.


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    I was clearing out my tool shed when I found a large spade and two dirty hoes.

    I told them to take their business somewhere else.


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:


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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    If true? what then?


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      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Tomorrow’s Independent front page is a DISASTER for Cameron if true. (via @suttonnick)


      • 132
        nellnewman says:

        Well Bill big question is did those same top lobbyists influennce bliar and brown? Bet they did!


        • 133
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          Probarly, But DC boasting about it? Bad bowling, food for the BBC and co.


      • 157
        Alyingstare Campbell says:

        Oh, the putrid Press ! Does Murdoch own the Independent ??


      • 167
        Democracy Now says:

        But not necessarily a disaster for the country. We need to clean up government if government won’t come clean.


      • 177
        not a machine says:

        i must admit Billy , cant say as I am too impressed , although seems to explain a lot of things about where some ideas have come from .No wonder party isnt talked to anymore , heir to Blair , wont flush away quite so easy on this one .


  37. 128
    The Observer says:

    Piers Morgan still cannot get his feet or heart out of the gutter.
    As the saying goes he has as much class as a rat up a drainpipe.
    At least he does not keep interrupting like the BBC who believe they know everything.


  38. 131
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    There are now more pandas in Scotland than Tory MP’s.


  39. 141
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Your welcome :)


  40. 146
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:


  41. 150
    This is mad Britain says:

    So………………….according to the latest Merkozy plan, a euro country breaks their yet to be made up fiscal rules and is in meg debt (more meg debt) so they then FINE that country tens of millions of Euros.

    What am I not understanding, if I owe tens of thousands £s then I am fined more tens of thousands £s am I out of debt, am I in more debt?

    Just another load of shite eh!


    • 178
      not a machine says:

      As was modded earlier , surprised that after all this time there isnt , a fairly detailed plan to be presented ……… I mean how can you tell if it is viable theres no meat , should have been on with it ages ago .

      Ahh those france 24 ladies , is about all I like about europe , oh that and the food and wine , never realyy taken to sovereign debts


  42. 158
    HandyPara says:

    Newsnight “research” item making excuses for the summer riots. Fucking lefty beeboids distorting the facts to suit their own agenda. Common theme being that it wasn’t criminality but revenge on the police for not respecting them! FFS!


    • 160
      Joss Taskin says:

      What came first ? Lawlessness or loss of respect ?


    • 170
      feef says:

      I liked the bit from the disrespected black yoof who had to come back from holiday 9 days early, wif his mates, to fight the police because the Government was reducing the benefits they got.
      Name and shame the Hunt.


  43. 159
    The Liebour Party says:

    We’re not waving but drowning…..


  44. 161
    domino316 says:

    Ha Ha S & P just threw a hand grenade into the lap of MerkOzy et al…would expecting the idiots who caused it to fix it (including Gormless and Blinky) be akin to expecting the doctor who amputated your healthy leg to carve you a realistic prosthetic replacement?


  45. 162
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:


  46. 163

    From Grateful Dead – Estimated Prophet
    Some good live versions about but only on two vids so here is the studio verson:


  47. 164
  48. 168
    Dimwitwatch says:

    Yeah, cheerio, hun.

    Fuck off.


  49. 169
    George Michael says:

    Sounds ideal.


  50. 173
    To be fair... says:

    praps but she gives me a fucking great horn and you dont


  51. 174
    jeri boam says:

    I hope Cameroon still has his bags packed from his house that was paid for by the taxpayer to number 10 Downing st that is also paid for by the taxpayer, because I don’t believe he will still be needed by the end of the week.


  52. 176
    not a machine says:

    Ed balls seems to have discovered lemony freshness “lets be honest labour would have to make cuts too” mmm I might counter yes but what about those oh so difficult to remove debt stains , the one where years of personal pleasure and hiding them from the public accounts , led to that ermm little embarrasing election loss .I think you could probebly throw ed and co into a vat of cillit shift it and that lingering smell of shite would still be there .

    In an astonishing NN survey of rioters , it found that 1/3 had no previous conviction mmmm , there were some comments in the package that if true tell me a great deal about what labours approach to respect was and is …… “Is it cos I cant stop being a child needing nanny state and I is gonna do what i like , be nutter teenager an all that for ever, face bovvered wheres my EDA grant you non socialist governemnt “, perhaps da street talk aint really explainin tings like it used to bro

    RBS story was excellent , worth watching perhaps missed quite a bit of cocktail circuit out keep forgetting how many bankers were labour ministers was it 9, and that knighthood but placed words , events and numbers quite well , as well as perhaps offering a lesson on being so clever that you make broke all the little people you in fact conned .

    Strange times for Russia , bit sad really being as they just refurbished the bolshoi , and it had gained some tourist points , perhaps next time round they will crack on with good education , small business , better home life and asking the oligarchs to retire from racketeering and try some more honest politics to serve its people . That said Mr Putin did at least put russia on a better dialogue than decades of his predescessors and better to travel and see the country than have to watch “duck and cover” films .hope they get round the change required that is being hinted at in the election.

    Rowan Williams blames the government , I blame the previous one although I suspect it may be somthing to do with ecnomic theory becomming wonk as well , dont know why he cannot see beyond the shop front or see who , why and how the injustice occured , i mean how can you do more for the poor when all you have is a fist full of debt ?? Where is his morality of work , as fundamental speech ? rather than redistribution ? Still at least he has taken a stance on church being for marriage (as in millenia tradition definition of marriage), although given the number of couples now not in marriage , you might think he took his eye off the ball on that one as well as public accounts during labour .

    mmm looks like being a busy and interesting week , bit of argy bargey to boot
    £10 to the film crew that can muster and save , a dasterdly toxic trump and realease it when talking in close proximity to ed , i luv seeing his eyes water when making a serious statement , whats that economy on PMQs how about “leftwing useless and weak ” mmm no had that one last week “socialist , diminished and lost”

    Dear jim please could you fix it for me to be the third person on the sofa when Peirce and Mcguire are on with Anna , to add that professional polish , yours Sir Les Patterson , Austrailian cultural attache


  53. 179
    not a machine says:

    so its not Obiwan Kenobi (from SW 1,2 and 3) ….mmm thats a bitter blow


  54. 183
    Lou Scannon says:

    Who’s Ron Paul ? Is he the new pope ?


  55. 184
    Lou Scannon says:

    3rd attempt :
    Whö’s Rön Päul ? Is he the new pöpë ?


  56. 186
    albacore says:

    So why is Cast Iron so frit of a vote?
    Is it that the EU is no good for nowt
    And no amount of spam and spinning
    Would see the Europhile gang winning?
    The Human Rights Act, now there’s a joke
    It’s for foreigners, not English folk


  57. 202
    sealordlawrence says:

    David Cameron has made it clear, he does not care for democracy and does not believe that the British people have the right to choose their own destiny. Ian Duncan Smith said what every honest man is saying. Cameron however, the spineless socialist traitor, has decided to sacrifice British freedom at the alter of EUSSR oppression.

    Vote UKIP.


  58. 210
    Anonymous says:

    But Cameron and Osbourne enable the Euro Juggernaut to thunder on. And we will have to pay even more for it now.

    Cameron is indeed a traitor, far worse than Blair ever was. At least Blair never campaigned as a Eurosceptic. Cameron is an outright traitor. But the so called Tory Eurosceptics are a complete waste of time. They won’t do any thing, they don’t want to lose their seats!! Dan Hanaan and all of them, just a load of hot air.

    Cameron’s conservatives( the rich, powerful Euro elite), Hesletine,Howe,Clarke will never win an outright election.

    They didn’t in 2010 because Cameron made the mistake of going on the telly to debate, he didn’t need to, a bad error of judgement.

    And he won’t win in 2015 either.

    In any case, any one voting for the LibLabCons in 2015 is voting for a United States of Europe, their recent 3 line Commons Whip proves it.

    I am a real conservative,not blue labour, so I will vote UKIP for the first time ever, as I know so many others will do.

    Enjoy your one term while you can. I know too, how much the current lot of politicians of all parties are waiting for the old war generation to pop their clogs so they can get the young ones to vote for a USE, but they won’t tell you that!


  59. 219
    tube_thumper says:

    why do MP’s and ministers keep poking their greedy noses into how much private and public companies are paying their people in salaries and bonuses. Its fuck all to do with them and entirely in the hands of the shareholders.

    Fuck off Clegg, Cable , Miliband and Balls-up


  60. 220
    tube_thumper says:

    its amazing isnt it.

    I write a post that mentions immigration with no bad language or racist overtones (i dont think) But it is awaiting moderation

    Order order is also cowed by the issue of “race” dare not mention it eh. Thats why we are in this fucking state you twats have some bollocks


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Mycroft says:

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You know where the animals are looking through the Farmhouse window?

My TV screen was that window at lunch-time today.

Be careful, the sudden self-congratulatory tone, the slightly pudgy outline of indulgence and you become exactly what you should despise.

The jolly face of the Quisling Cameron poses for your camera has mesmerised and deceived you, you who were once not so deceived.

You were no firebrand, you were a damp squib in my opinion, sorry.

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