A Very European Coup
Papandreou is said to be on his way to meet Greek President Karolos Papoulios to offer his resignation.
Greece will apparently get an emergency coalition government.
Knifed for daring to give the people a say…
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Iran’s military chief-of-staff, Major General Hassan Firouzabadi…
“The Iranian nation is standing for its cause and that is the full annihilation of Israel”.
The last Quango in Paris says:
Mr Bryant and Mr Watson managing to make the whole hacking affair look like a farce – the more they moan the less I care about the whole subject! So partisan it beggars belief at all costs. They cannot rise above it ! If I was to call the PM a ‘liar’ I would want to be VERY sure.
uh oh
sounds lick there will be trouble
They are all running scared of anybody having a vote. It is a big day for Europe,
Bloody frightening if you dare to think about it.
It is utterly Stalinistic and utterly totalitarian. If the Greeks are now being given any choice at all, it is accept utter and complete submission of the last vestige of your Sovereignty to Brussels, or get out of the EU.
Given that choice I would look to Iceland’s example, and get the fuck out of the EU altogether.
This looked like a slight possibility, so they have been fucked over to the extent that they are going to have ALL choices taken from them from now on!
We are seeing the utter humiliation and destruction of a Nation State before our very eyes. A nation destroyed by the corrupt traitorous scum inside and outside their own borders.
They claim that to leave the Economic and Monitory Union requires the withdrawal from the EU itself. We are not in the single currency, can we withdraw from the utterly, totally anti-democratic Evil Union now then? Please?
The ONLY party speaking truth to power at the moment is UKIP. FUCK the EU!
+1
This is the shot that was heard across ’round the world.
Thanks – I thought those two litle words said it all
YOU SOUND SURPRISED?
The Greeks have taken the money and put it in hedge funds, gambling on the crash of the euro, Greek default, Greek withdrawal fro EU.
Its a sure bet because the politicians are doing it.
They can’t lose.
We will bail them out if they fail.
Why doesn’t Tory MPs ask a vote on EU at the same time as Greece, this will be the right time as it cannot affect the UK economy or the world economy any more.
No point. Let’s just take a step back, do nothing and watch the whole thing shake itself apart.
If only, but the current traitors running the conservatives, are running headlong for the ballroom in the middle-deck of the sinking ship and they are determined to go down with it!
I would be heading for the lifeboats at this point!
A BIG FUCKING YES,the anti-Euro group is HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
The anti -democs have the right idea ,but the suits have the upper hand
(experience),they will win at every roll of the dice (‘been in the game longer !)
BUY SHARES & COMPLAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully Dave and George will keep their mouths shut and let the Eurozone leaders sort out their own mess without charges of carping from the borders
George Papandreou is putting the country first Cameron is putting himself first.
Papandreou is a hero but our masters can’t have an outbreak of democracy anywhere in the EU can they. If only our government had the guts to do the same but asking the people will be the last thing on Camerflunky’s mind.
Lets bomb Syria to f**k, pretend its to give the Syrians democracy and take the little people’s minds off the fact that we have none at all.
Cameron is a turd.
Cameron is out of office at the next election or sooner if we get lucky.
None of them care right enough pension is sorted etc.
D’turd ?
Where is Gordon when he’s needed? There’s a world to be saved …..
I think it is absolutely frightening that fanatic political ideology is witnessing the destruction of a nation state because they want to be independent. Hitler was labelled as mad, but these people are far beyond his mad plans for GERMANY TO RULE EUROPE.
We need everyone to write to their MPs blog, twitter etc. The UK needs to get out the EU ASAP. Fanatical Clegg will do everything he can to get the UK to be part of the EU state.
Clegg wrote that “all nations have a cross to bear, and none more so than Germany with its memories of Nazism. But the British cross is more insidious still. A misplaced sense of superiority, sustained by delusions of grandeur and a tenacious obsession with the last war, is much harder to shake off”.[38][39] The article was dusted down during the 2010 General Election campaign when the Daily Mail interpreted the article as being a “Nazi slur on Britain” . He will use any language, threat or fear to reach his aim.
Historically, before there is any major move down in the world’s stock markets, they are led down by what seems like an insignificant Stock Market. In the past this has been markets as diverse as Finland and Korea. This time it is the Greek Stock market which has already fallen by 90% of it’s value. You have been warned!
p.s. Any Sovereign default will bring down many of the world’s banks as credit default swaps will be triggered and these are underwritten by banks. The politicians know this, that is why they are all shitting themselves. The world stands on the edge of a debt precipice and is about to jump off.
Did the scurrilous rascal really have his way .
I’m here, in the little boy’s room
Does anybody know what I should think? Please?
I think you should offer up your resignation too.
Check your blank piece of paper – that should cover whats needed from you
Cameron is offering more money to IMF!
Yes Ed, WE ARE ALL FUCKED !.
(but not Greece !!)
Let’s all vacate the (non-existent) gravy train !!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_Papademos
He has been a member of the Trilateral Commission since 1998.
Greece has 24 Hours to stop this. I’ve never before wished for riots but I do now.
I can’t believe they’re being so blatant.
They have little choice at this point, but then they also know that the compliant mainstream media will spin this as anything but the tyranny which it so obviously is.
There is no longer a need for discretion, the people are powerless, job done
NO NO NO, the people will be able for the FIRST TIME to
Fuck it !!
He must have found a horses head in his bed !
The Greeks have more balls than our government.
Fake – fuck off sock puppet – beware of fakes – i may tweet about this. You can follow me on twitter. I sometimes post my beter tweets on here.
Your fakes are better than you
Tatifilarious!
I work hard at the brand my monkier represents and it is not fare that it can be abusered lick this
BRAND!!!!!!!! You cannot be serious
Yeah !!
Doesn’t u have a brand , Anonymous ??
E x .
jo brand – fucking lovely
‘Now then now then’
Please don’t bring Balls into Government!
foolisness never won the cigar in my town
Lagos ?
Can you imagine what would happen if this was going on in the UK – a referendum promised, then the whole of Europe blackmailing us into dropping it, and forcing the Prime Minister out to boot. And us Brits are a less volatile bunch than the Greeks. Will the army intervene to stop this EU coup?
Nothing would happen x factor and the footie is on at the weekend so the zombies that make up most of this country would carry on as normal.
It’s too late welcome to communisim part 2, it’s going to get messy.
Personally, I can’t get quite as worked up as many about the Greeks. They have helped themselves to a far higher standard of living than they have earned and now that the day of reckoning has come they are basically stuck. If they were not a euro nation, they wouldn’t have lots of people chasing around trying to bail them out- they would just have to sink or adjust to the reality of their economic strength.
We in this country are having to make some attempt to realise our weakness, and they, even weaker, will have to do the same.
I suspect most Greeks, far from being heroic, would rather become a client state of Franco-Germany than accept the true state of their economy.
TWAT,the quasi Eurozone shits haven’t even got a signed off
financial audit in 15 fucking YEARS !.
This is an illegal operation & should be closed down by (ha ha)
the European Parliament (sic).
The EU is post democratic.
Democracy is merely removing failed leaders without having to kill them.
Justice entails the E.U.S.S.R. politburo will be removed in the Post (and Pre) democratic way.
P.S. Guido is a pussy for blocking E.U.S.S.R. (without spaces).
ECCCP
LOL Good idea.
Phocoena phocoena.
Fourth Reich uber alles
Ein volk, ein reich, ein Euro, ein Fuhrer.
Only armed insurgency will now restore democracy to Europe.
Sophie you can,t restore something that never existed
Well observed.
Correction.
Only armed insurgencies will now restore democracy to the peoples of Europe
No wonder our weapons were confiscated years ago. Somehow it seems that our leaders thought it was a good idea to arm the rabble in Lybia though.
Getting misty now !mmmmmmmmmmmm
Das ist aber fantastiche das wir haben ein neue morgen !!
If you think the call for a referendum was anything other than a tactical move on GP’s part, you’re an idiot.
I think this is correct. Events were always likely to overtake the announcement of the referendum and I can’t believe Papandreou hadn’t thought of that. Greece is a bit of a distraction though – they’re fucked whichever way Italy is the main show right now and keep an eye on France too because if they even look like getting dragged in oneway or the other the EFSF will unravel.
It’s a fail right from the start. The stability fund concept is more debt to fix too much debt.
“oneway or the other the EFSF will unravel.”
Agreed, the main worry is, how much money Dave & Gideon will be prepared to throw at it in our name, as it crumbles into dust and what they are doing to mitigate us as far as possible, from the whole bloody disaster.
Would you not agree that the EU is defunct ?
Agreed. I wouldn’t be crowing about giving the Greek people a say until I’ve seen how the question is framed. Whatever it is it’ll be in such a format that it gives the Greeks a heavy nudge in the ‘YES’ direction. Something along the lines of – ” The benign Eurozone have graciously conceded to bailing out you feckless peasants. If you agree with having all your debts wiped clean and a bright future in the Euro zone – VOTE YES. If you disagree and wish to be cast into economic darkness for a thousand years and be held responsible for the start of WW 3 – VOTE NO”
‘Knifed for daring to give the people a say’… My fucking arse ! It’a an EU ploy to acquire a figleaf of democratic legitimacy prior to federalisation.
If the vote goes against that which the EU has decreed, expect the EU to force another vote within six weeks, under even more intense pressure. The bastards are not just undemocratic, they are anti-democratic.
‘my old’ (respected) teacher once said to me
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/19658
Signed.
me too.
Hang Mr Bean…
“BoE’s Bean says without QE, UK CPI more likely to undershoot”
Thanks for the Inflation fuckwit.
The BoE pension should NEVER be Inflation proof. Give them an incentive to do their job properly.
I thinks that it is outrageous that anyone could have the temerity to even think that the fodder…erm…people should be consulted.
We should know that our lords and masters in Brussels know what is good for them…erm…us.
Cameron in his speech at 11:55 confirms UK will chuck a few billion into the IMF.
I bet they even lie to the poor little rubber duck at bathtime…
There’s always plenty of money for Abroad, isn’t there?
Topping up the IMF from the DfID budget strikes me as a rather splendid notion, actually.
Especially young Russian broads.
Can we have some of the quotes where his government LIED about bailing out the euro.
It’s called Hansard.
So Greece joins Ireland, Slovakia and Portugal in losing its government over the crisis with Spain imminent, Italy looking highly likely and the poison dwarf’s chances of re-election in France decreasing by the day.
Will be interesting to see the final tally.
French banks loaned far too much to Italy (and Italy is b4nkrupt).
The other place to watch the banks (albeit on a smaller scale) is Austria – all that money pumped into Hungary and other points east is not coming back.
True, but the Market’s “Eye of Sauron” is fixed on Italy for the moment.
Yep but there are going to be others dragged kicking and screaming into the daylight sooner or later and it’s looking like sooner.
It all springs from Northern Europe’s benign and foolish view that the rest of Europe is just like they are really, but have just been a bit unlucky. When will they realise that they are fundamentally different, and that expecting them to behave like efficient, orderly and industrious Northern Europeans is a pipe-dream?
The French (look at an atlas) are a bit of both. They like an easy time like Italians or Greeks, but they have an industrial creativity of a sort. It makes them believe that they are the very centre of European civilisation, and they enjoy spreading this to other countries. It always ends in tears.
So the german hausfrau and the poison french dwarf have brought down the greek government without having to make good that suggestion that there would be war.
So what now – I don’t much envy whoever takes over the greek government and tells the greeks first of all they are not getting a referendum and secondly that there are stringent unpalateable cuts and taxes on the way that’s going to leave them utterly impoverished.
There’ll be blood on streets, mark my words.
Let’s hope it’s mainly bureaucrat blood.
I suspect the Colonels are waiting in the wings.
All we need now is an assassination somewhere on mainland Europe and it could all get very 39 stepsish.
Where is Tony these days , babes ???
E x .
hanging out of the back of carole – just like the good old days
umm that was 1914
Franz Ferdinand in the Balkans to be exact. By the way, RT are already reporting a deployment of German troops in the Balkans.
if it wasn’t for merkozy, they would have lived happily forever without cuts or taxes
They didn’t manage it on their own, the coward Cameron helped.
*GREECE’S PAPANDREOU TO STEP DOWN, BBC REPORTS
*FORMER ECB VICE-PRESIDENT PAPADEMOS TO HEAD GREEK GOVT: BBC
So the Next ruler of Greece is an unelected central banker!
The coup has happened. Let’s hope the sacked Greek military brass take over and call an election PDQ.
So effectively the EU’s placeman is being installed.
Yes be interesting to see what happens next.
One’s things for certain the poison french dwarf will not be getting re-elected next year.
The alternatives appear to be Marine Le Pen and Francois Hollande – neither of which fills me with any enthusiasm.
Nell, you seem to be very keen on socialists today.
I appear to have been modded for mentioning the name of the lady who represents the far right in France. She is an unappealing alternative as is Hollande
Lee Penn far right? Err she is a national socialist and about as right wing as our oaf Gwiffin, ie: not right wing at all.
The MSM have a lot to answer for.
The unappealing (to you) alternative may be the only alternative.
I wouldn’t trust the BBC to do anything other than spin and lie.
I think I’ll wait until other news sources say he has resigned until I believe this “journalism” from the Beeb.
“Greece is set to get an emergency coalition government.”
Just like us.
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6EQUJ5 says:
November 3, 2011 at 10:29 am
Coalition government!
Oh! Just look at the time.
Looks more like as coup to me.
Not like my coup
A Banker’s coup!
More central banker i.e. Bureaucrat coup.
Brilliant comment.
The entire EU will have emergency coalition governments in the coming months. With them the last facades of freedom, democracy and choice, will disappear.
Referenda is verboten!, ve haff vays of liquidating dissenters.
Nevertheless, for you the Euro is still over Fritz.
Knifed for being an absolute knob.
He made an agreement with EU Leaders, and then went back on it.
If a Ref. was to be part of the process (and indeed why not) it should have been part of that original agreement and discussion.
It wasn’t. His error.
The fact is that Papandreou may have thought he had struck a deal but he didn’t have a mandate from his electorate to implement the necessary conditions and any further attempts would see yet more riots on the streets of Athens. He therefore had no choice but to ask the people either by referendum or by election.
The greek opposition is totally against the agreement(how therefore can Greece have a government of national unity as proposed ?) and has already said to the Greek electorate that they would attempt to renegotiate the package if they were in government to more favourable terms(they wouldn’t be successful and are living in cloud cuckoo land).The Germans who are driving this(being the paymasters)told the Greek Government that a referendum on the package is not an option as far as they are concerened and the only thing Greece should decide on is whether they come out not just the Euro now but the EU.Sarkozy is cacking his pants over Greek default as it will effect French Banks. Meanwhile Italy(again with a weak dysfunctional goverenmet) whose Banks have the biggest exposure to greek debt is teetering on the brink of the abyss along with Greece.
The EU Constitution does not allow a country to withdraw from the Euro and remain within the EU. This will require a new treaty not just sanctioned by the 17(16 after Greece is kicked out of the eurozone) but of all the 27 memebers inc the UK.
Cameron has nowhere to hide any longer….he will have to concede a referendum on UK ,membership certainly within the next 6 months .Dissent is building on the Tory backbenches(there are already problems as evidenced by to-day’s urgent question put down in Parliament over the UK giving monies to the eurozone by the backdoor route of the IMF).Dissent will grow in the country fuelled by the largely eurosceptic press….UK policy is re-aligning and not even Clegg will be able to stop it…..this is a risky time not just for governments in the eurozone but here in the uk as well
Greece B4nkruptcy Topples Italian Banks, Topples Italy, Topples French Banks…
Papanderou has consistently been working through the Greek parliament since May to amend their laws so as to make a referendum possible. The Greek parliament voted 30 days enabling legislation that would be needed for a referendum to go ahead.
1) Either the EU has such complete disregard for Parliamentary democracy that it did not actually follow events in the Greek parliament.
2) Merkozy and the EU knew that this was likely and strung Papaderou along (give him enough rope etc).
Edward you apeera to be more the nob than Papandreaou
There is no way Greek society will hold with the current cuts by a Government without any mandate (or majority) or major reopression EU style.
He had no choice but to out it to the people. He agreed certainly didnt go back on on merely said that was the deal agreed but for it to work it would need popular mandate. I think events show that there woud have been no chance that Merkosy would have agreed any deal if there had been a hint of a referendum.
He should have made no agreement without a mandate to do so.
If he had to put it to his electorate, and again why not, that should have been crystal clear.
It wasn’t.
And you say Merkosy would not have agreed any deal if there had been a hint of a referendum what did he expect? She doesn’t watch Greek TV? She doesn’t ready Greek papers? She wouldn’t find out?
Sorry, he remains a knob.
http://www.justice.gov.uk/news/features/feature011111a.htm
I find ACPO strangely fascinating
They’ve done all the shredding they need.
It mentions the Freddom of Information Act. Is this something different involving frog shaped chocolate bars?
Ask Acpo – they’ll know
“This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” Churchill.
oh yes
Can I suggest instead;
“The lamps are going out all over Europe. We shall not see them lit again …
I think it was Edward Grey who said that in August 1914 but what he said just afterwards is even more relevant to the way we are held hostage in the eu these days :
“the mistakes that have been committed in foreign policy are not, as a rule, apparent to the public until a generation afterwards.”[
When the lights go on again, all over the world…
http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2011/11/02/greece-go-boom-soon/
The fun is about to start!
The Greeks ain’t so easily driven as the average Brit.
If only our so called UK leaders (haha) had such fancy footwork!
I am fead up with sockpuppets using my monkier and abusering my brand
So am I.
Time for the Major’s, Colonel’s, Brigadier’s and General’s to don the flak jacket and get out there for the coup.
One can’t blame Papandreou, he’s hated, like all politicians in Greece, for continuing the ole regime of corruption, backhanders and poor service, which the taxpayers reciprocate by not paying taxes, for allowing the myth that Greece is economically sound to fester and for the government to spend and waste billions. Did they really have to do the Olympics, such a waste of loot which everyone now has to pay for.
Mind you, Greeks arn’t totally stupid, they’re not Turkeys, they realise that the current straitened lifestyle is infinitely more desirable than living in a backward, bankrupt state which all will shun for years, cheap hollys or not.
I would suggest that the Bondholders seize sellable assets, the islands for one, evict the natives and flog ‘em orff to the highest bidders.
Banks might like one if it comes with a licence as a tax haven, which would up the price.
Oligarchs and billionaires might like the idea of their own private state free from interference.
To end some, classical alliteration:= Socialist MEP called Anni Podimata, argued that a referendum would bring catharsis. It’s a good metaphor. Catharsis is the purification and emotional renewal that comes at the end of a Greek tragedy. Greece has been through the hubris – the boom years, when the markets pretended that Greek and German debt were interchangeable – and is now suffering the nemesis.
(Ex Daily Telegraph- Daniel Hannan.)
Why modded?
If you don’t lick it you are free to take a full refund and fuck off
Ha ha, my litle joke – I defend your right to post what you want – i just wish we could stop the sockpuppets
Lick it? Not your little joke at all
because it was an attempt at serious comment and this website prefers the banal comments of the socially inept screen lickers that most of us are – Billy is our hero followed by the cat with the silly name.
Market used to be banned
backward, bankrupt state
The Trojans are angry!
The Paris summit saw the launch of a thousand thousand thousand slips {of IOU’s}.
The Trojans should never have taken that wooden horse into the Euro. It was full of Greeks bearing debts.
Hector! Hector! Lets hector Papandreou until he quits!
Achilles will save the Euro. He is indestructible..Except for his loan deal. If an arrow strikes his deal, he will die.
Zeus! Zeus Save us..! We need a Papandreou ex machina to sort out this greek tragedy.
Athena – she was juth here a minute ago
Eye Thor tie sore a pussy cat
Question is
What will the Greek populace do if this “emergency coalition” tries cancelling the referendum?
Is there a market for olive oil futures?
http://occupylondon.org.uk/
These people are facists, you get evicted for saying anything against their cause
who you talkin’ about/ the governmint??
nein
the nazi occupiers
does this mean that Greece stands a very good chance of getting to host the world cup in 2022??
The people are allowed to speak as long as they make the ‘right noise’.
Did the EU hire Hitler’s old doctors to administer a tonic to Papandreou?
Who voted Barroso, Ashton and the other shits into office in Brussels?
trouble in the backyard
Only another 60,000 signatures to make Appeasement Dave squirm.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/356
Everyone on this list will be going to a death no sorry a holiday centre soon.
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/newsplus/lucas-papademos-appointed-as-inaugural-minos-a-zombanakis-professor/
“Zombie Bank Professor”
let ze panzers roll!
This whole socialist thing going well
The Greeks are ruled from Berlin. This is an awful warning for everyone else.
Especially as our Government is sticking with its policy of appeasement.
It has become very clear today, hasn’t it? that the german hausfrau and french dwarf wield power way beyond the boundaries of their own countries and are ruthlessly prepared to use it to keep us all in line.
Scary!!
Do not fret Nell, we have bought and paid for Cameron to pretend to represent us.
N.W. gas must not be exploited. Falklands oil must be ceded.
Cameron is a Bilderberg traitor.
FFS,
Especially as our Government is sticking with its policy of app*asement.
I wonder how you would feel if you were a German and had not only to have spent billions on rescuing East Germany and bringing it roughly into line with the West, and then found that all Southern Europe was waiting with the begging bowl.
It’s all very well to chortle about the panzers rolling, but essentially the Germans deserve some say as the most resilient European economy, now being strangled by all the hangers-on. Their great plan, in alliance with France, to change European history from constant rivalry and war, is unravelling. Idealism usually ends up defeated by reality.
WTF, FFS, oh just forget it.
I heard that the English Democrats were prepared to burn an EU flag on november the 5th. Couldn’t be better timing if true.
We know how EU referendum work. Say no and they make you vote again until you give right answer.
I always get my subsidy. Thank you.
There is a new thread
It’s truly a Berlin Wall moment I think. I’m referring to the 1961 moment of course, when the bastards put it up.
Oh! give over Guido! This wasn’t about “giving people a say” it was about holding a gun to the head of the EU to get more money and more favourable deal for Greece (and robbing everyone else). And most likely Papandreou and his cabiniet colleagues have just taken a big bribe from the EU to bugger-off, no doubt to some nice off-shore haven.
I suspect that Papandreou and his cohorts have been planning to resign for quite a while ( I mean, would you want be in charge of Greece with what was about to be imposed on them?) this was a way of saving face with the Greek people and claiming tobe on their side, whilst most likely getting a fat golden “sod-off please” handshake from Brussels!
That’s not what I get after Brussels.
The thing about “giving the people a say” is wrong.
Politicians tend to only hold a referendum they think they will win ( we know that)
It’s through the looking glass logic . An anti universe
For Papandreou a “win” WAS a “no” vote!
He wanted to “lose” !
Then he could go back and demand Greece be totally let off!
Fuck Greece. Fuck them side-ways with a cricket bat. They lied massively to get into the EU. They should be caste adrift like the denial-ist, lying, non-tax paying bludging twats that they are. Fuck them. They should have been caste adrift months ago.
BTW: Who the fuck rubber stamped their entry in the EU!?